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Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino. Yeah, they've got you covered, and all you gotta do is wait for it.
Speaker 2:
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This is the Wait For it Podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast. I'm your co-host, phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino.
Speaker 1:
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And I'm your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and for this edition of Creator Spotlight, we have finally completed the mission of getting and rounding the cast of my dear friend Nokatan, that we had the pleasure of meeting earlier this year at Brick City Anime Festival, and our final guest, phil, is possibly the best for last.
Speaker 2:
1:02
Man, what a crazy journey it has been to get all of these guests on, as we got to see them a couple times here this year, and we're very, very excited to complete the Infinity Stone quadrant that we have been collecting from this group of people that we met earlier in the year at Brick City Anime Festival. Please welcome in our guest for this month's episode, donald Guzzi. Donald, so good to see you. Thank you so much for taking the time, and how are you doing here tonight?
Speaker 3:
1:30
Doing well, guys. Thank you so much for having me on. And I'm doing pretty good. You know, just recently came off of a nice disconnecting vacation, so you know I'm coming down from that. The weather in Georgia is starting to cool down a little bit, so that's nice. I mean, you know, still in the high 80s in the afternoon, but like the mornings are in the high 50s, so that's nice.
Speaker 2:
1:49
But uh, yeah, man doing pretty good uh, cooler weather for anybody that lives in the south like we do. I walked out, eric, I don't know if this happened to you the other day, heading to work, there was a tiny, tiny chill in the air. A little tiny, it didn't.
Speaker 1:
2:04
It didn't last very long, but no, and then it's just going to be wet and hot, which is just Florida weather, so I don't know what's going to happen but I did enjoy it when it was there.
Speaker 2:
2:12
Yeah, fun while it lasted. But, donald, we are so excited to get to speak to you here this evening and learn about your story, your creative journey, everything in between. So, before we get started, please, for our audience that may not be familiar with you or your work, introduce yourself and what you do.
Speaker 3:
2:29
All right. So, as you said, I'm Donald Guzzi. I am a voiceover actor and director. I've been in the business since 2014. So just almost 11 years actually September, so it is 11 years as of this month, and you may know me from the narrator, from my Dear Friend Nokotan. I'm also Shinsuke Takasugi and a plethora of other characters in Hulu's Gintama, and I'm also currently directing the graphic audio production of Stormlight Archive book five, wind and Truth by Brandon.
Speaker 2:
3:07
Sanderson yeah, we were talking before we got started. Plenty to do, keeping busy, which is nice. Also good to hear that you were able to at least get some time in for yourself here recently. So, yeah, we are super excited to hear about you know everything that you have done and where you have. You know how you got where you are now. So let's kind of just start there. We've had a ton of voice actors on and we always want to know, like, where did you start off? And I think one of the best questions to always ask is did you start off like a lot of people as a theater kid, or was your journey a little bit different? What's kind of your origin story?
Speaker 3:
3:44
So right off the bat, no, I was not a theater kid at all, acting nothing, none of that. So I actually. So I lived in South Florida for pretty much majority of my life. I've only been living here in Georgia for about three years, so my journey begins down there in Miami. So I went to an audio school in Miami called SAE Institute and I was, you know, I went there for audio engineering.
Speaker 3:
4:08
So I fully wanted to dive into audio engineering. I wanted to do concerts, like live sound, and I was very hell-bent on doing that pretty much from the start. I went to the school. It was a really rough nine months. It was really difficult. It was a really rough nine months. It was really difficult. And you know, going through there I was fully again fully wanting to do live sound, ready to go. I had my plan and everything. And then we got to the post-production side and the project for post-production was we basically got like a short clip. Actually there were two projects, excuse me, but it was basically you take a clip from a movie, show, video game, something, strip all the sound away from it, do all the sound, design all the voices and mix it all down in five one, so in surround sound, and that was like the one of the one of our big projects for post-production. And in doing that I was like, oh man, this is dope, I want to do that instead. So I pivoted pretty hard and went into that. I actually got the best in class for the 5.1, that project we got best in class. I have a plaque. It's downstairs. So we got that.
Speaker 3:
5:24
And fresh out of school I got a job as a quality control engineer at a studio down in Miami called Universal Synergia and, um, so quality control for anyone who might not know is basically I would watch dubbed content, mark down anything that was wrong with it. If it was long, short, flubbed, mispronunciation, like anything that bothered me, I'd report it back to the director. They would rerecord it, it'd come back to me, I'd approve it, send it out the door. So that's kind of where I started and from there I you know it was a voiceover studio and they did English, french, spanish and Portuguese, so they did a whole bunch of stuff and, um, while I was there I was like, holy shit, I could, I might be able to, I don't know, voice acting like you know, watching anime and cartoons and everything. Growing up. I'm like I could. I'm here Like I might be able to do that.
Speaker 3:
6:20
So for about six months I bugged the casting director. I was like, hey man, can you give me anything? Like I'll do crowd work, I'll do anything. You know, I was like, let me just get in the booth, let me try it, and keep in mind I've never done this before, ever. And eventually he got sick of me and he was like, all right, fine, like if, if I give you something, will you just shut the hell up and leave me alone? And he, I was like absolutely. And so he threw me in the booth and it was like, you know, he did a voice test. It wasn't like a actual role or anything, yet it was an, it was an audition. And, um, you know, he was like he's like oh wow, you're not as bad as I thought you'd be. You know, blunt, blunt as hell. And I was like, uh, thanks, I guess. And he was like all right, I'll start throwing you some stuff.
Speaker 3:
7:07
And ever since I started slowly working into voiceover that way, while also moving upwards in the audio engineering. So through my tenure at Universal, which was about 10 years or so, I went from quality control to recording engineer, to directing recording engineer, to mixing, to mastering engineer, which, to be fair, anyone in post mastering engineering in post isn't real. It's not real. It's not a real position. But I digress Mastering engineer into 5.1. Back to, like, head of quality control. Like I've been all over the place Anything in production when it comes to a voiceover studio, save script control. Like I've been all over the place anything in production when it comes to a voiceover studio, save script adaptation. I've done it and you know so. I was doing voiceover on the side while working on that.
Speaker 3:
7:53
But, uh, on the voiceover side when, um, we got to a point where, you know, I was getting a lot of small stuff, a lot of small stuff, just cutting my teeth, getting used to it, getting used to it. And, um, a they were casting for and it was an HBO show. I don't know where it went We've done so much, so many projects that just disappear into the ether but it was an HBO show and the show was actually it was called a Magnifica 70. It was all about the film, film industry in the seventies in Brazil. It was a really cool show, cool show, and they were auditioning for this one character and they usually sent three options. Well, the third option was supposed to come in to record and he no-call, no-showed, and they were like shit, what are we going to do? We need a third person. And then they were like screw it, send Donald, they're not going to pick him. Well, they did so.
Speaker 3:
8:40
That's how I got my first lead and, of course, can't find it anywhere and, to be fair, probably better off, because I'm sure it wasn't that great. But yeah, and from there, like it really helped me. It was like one of those things where it was like you need to get good really quick or you're never going to get a lead again. So you know, it lit a fire under my ass and ever since it was like it was just roll after roll after roll and again it was all Miami. So it's like telenovelas that go out to uh, uh, africa, like all the Telemundo shows they air in Africa and English, and like just a bunch of a bunch of different like Latin shows that don't. Yeah, and from there I had left in 20, was it 21 or 22? Somewhere around there it was somewhere. It was briefly after COVID. My timeline is skewed ever since Left there went to another studio called Enboga, which a lot of people PTSD hardcore with that place.
Speaker 3:
9:44
We can talk about that a little bit later. But I worked there for about nine months and then my wife got a really good job and we moved out to Georgia and I came out here and I was like and she was like, hey, like don't worry about getting a job, I'm making enough right now, try full and it failed miserably, lost all my clients, like everything died, all the studios in Miami stopped casting me. It was like like career implosion. It was crazy. Tried streaming Didn't work, like you know. And then finally I was like all right, like I'm going to have to get a job, like you know, like a normie Gross. I'm going to have to get a job, like you know, like a normie Gross. But so I was, you know, applying for stuff and looking for things.
Speaker 3:
10:28
And I ended up going to Dragon Con that year, two years ago now, and Graphic Audio had a booth at Dragon Con and I had been recording for Graphic Audio as a talent since COVID era. So, like you know, I was familiar with them. I hadn't done a ton of work for them, but I've worked enough to know a handful of the directors, and one of the directors I worked with the most was there. So I introduced myself blah, blah, blah, whatever, shot the shit a little bit and then, as I was getting ready to leave, I was like you know what, screw it.
Speaker 3:
11:01
I turned around and I was like, are you guys hiring? And he was like no, but yes, he's like not yet. He's like, but you know, send me your stuff and we'll. You know, we'll see, we'll see what happens, we'll at bare minimum look at it. But we are going to be hiring soon. And you know, a couple months later, february rolls around and now I am, I am a creative director with graphic audio and that's the uh, that's the very condensed uh version of that Um, and of course, somewhere in between, you know, no, catan happened and Gintama, um, handful of other things around there. But, like I'll be honest, those stories aren't incredibly interesting. I mean, maybe no Catan is, but I'm sure we'll end up talking about that a little bit later. But that's the condensed TLDR version of my journey.
Speaker 2:
11:51
I'm curious if you're like me and also Eric to a degree as well. Now I do most of the audio editing for the podcast. Eric has a lot of the video. Have you gotten to a point because you have an ear for this and for me, if I listen to a podcast and the audio is off, the podcast cadence is off or something like that I can't do it, I can't listen to it. Has that happened with you now that you have a trained ear for stuff and if anything is off, you're like I can't do this, I got to find something else. Is it the same for you?
Speaker 3:
12:26
All the time, all the time, and it's why I don't watch a lot of stuff. Everyone comes to me and is like, oh, have you seen this new anime? Have you seen this, whatever? And I'm like no, because I can't. It's so hard to turn the brain off. The first three to four years of my career was literally finding mistakes. It's so hard to come back from that. I always use this instance. This is the kind of crap that I pick up on. I was watching Daredevil, the Netflix Daredevil series.
Speaker 3:
12:57
There's a scene where they're fighting in the bar and all the shit happens. And then Luke Cage comes out and he's like y'all better knock it the hell off or whatever. And everyone stops. And then you see on one of the tables, you see this glass bottle roll off the table, fall on the floor. You hear the glass break. The bottle doesn't break, pulled me right the hell out and immediately I was like God damn it. Like that's the, like the tiniest stupid shit pulls me out and like it makes me really. It makes it really hard to enjoy things, at least at least with like you know little. Yeah, it makes it really hard to enjoy things. So to answer your question yes, 100% happens all the time.
Speaker 2:
13:43
For a lot of people, them exiting the mcu was like bad storytelling, but for you it was just poor sound design. So that's unfortunate, but no, I, I totally understand now that that's actually hilarious.
Speaker 1:
13:56
Donald is there. I feel like you have one that might be itching at you, like is there? Is there one thing that you like know of that is either not very like, well known or is just something that bugs you Whenever you're watching a movie, a show? Is there a particular thing that happens that bothers you, or a particular thing in a film or a show that genuinely bugs you?
Speaker 3:
14:20
Spaceships making noise in space.
Speaker 1:
14:23
Okay.
Speaker 3:
14:24
It's really dumb, it's really dumb, it's really dumb, but like Firefly or, yeah, firefly is my favorite TV show of all time. You know Breaking Bad close second. So I'm biased, I'm sorry, nothing will ever get above that, but they did it right. There ain't no sounds in space and I think they're like the only ones who did it and like I get it. You know, you suspend belief, you want. You know, like when you're seeing ship combat or whatever, like obviously you need to suspend belief a little bit. But like the times where they show the ships, just you know, floating in space and they're making noise, I'm like god damn it and they're making noise. I'm like god damn it. But yeah, that would probably be my stupid, stupid pet peeve about stuff like that.
Speaker 1:
15:12
Yeah, we knew we had to get it out of the way. We had to just start off, you know, getting you angry. Donald, it's been really cool kind of hearing your journey, because it's so different from a lot of not just the rest of the no Catan cast but voice actors we've had in the past, like it's so different from a lot of not just the rest of the no Catan cast but voice actors we've had in the past, like it's really interesting. It's also really admirable, like you putting yourself out there led to a lot of those opportunities. Sometimes it just takes the leap of faith to be able to do that and I just think I think that's really really cool.
Speaker 1:
15:40
When it comes to the kind of the journey you're on now, are there things that you're like hesitant to do? Are you kind of, you know, holding back on things now as work's coming in and as opportunities are coming in? Are you still in that phase where it's hard to say no? Like what is that balance that you're going through now from you know, that guy that was getting those opportunities throwing himself out there on a limb to what you're doing now? Like, is that something that you continue to try to instill daily, or have you kind of reined that back in a little bit?
Speaker 3:
16:13
So, as for avoiding certain things, I won't necessarily say I like avoid a certain like aspect or certain projects. Like there's always going to be projects that I'll never want to do, purely because, like you know, writing's on the wall that it's probably not going to come out, or things like that. Like I try to avoid fan projects of other things, you know, and no shade on any of that like at all. It's just not something at you know, the point I am at in my career that I really want to do. I tend to kind of also stay away from free work only because I don't have the time. So a handful of things here and there, if someone comes up and it's a really cool thing and I'm like you know what yeah, bet I'm in Things like that will come up.
Speaker 3:
17:03
But honestly, one of the main things that I'm starting to pivot away from actually is dubbing. Like I've um, you know I had my like 10 year cycle down in Miami, right, and like it's very weird, you can kind of notice it in in mainstream like anime as well. Like you know, you'll have, you'll have a new actor right, they'll pop up and they'll be the, they'll be the lead in like everything for like 10 to 12 years and then they start to. They start their down into some more supporting. Like they'll get a lead here and there still they're still really good but like they start on their like their down, you know, downward, into not obscurity, but, like you know, downward into not obscurity, but like you know they don't get as many big things anymore but they don't need to.
Speaker 3:
17:46
You know, it's like they have so much other stuff that they're probably doing. But I had that cycle as well down in Miami. It was like, and then I hit my you know, I came down but I never went back up, you know. So, like you know, I moved up to Georgia, lost all my clients and everything and I've basically had to rebuild my career from, you know, from the ground up the past couple of years and I'm finally starting to get back into a, into a better position.
Speaker 3:
18:10
Like, um, you know, I still do dubbing. It's not that I hate it, it's just dubbing is notoriously low pay and it's not always, you know, and it's some studios are just not fun to record for or work with. And, um, you know, that's just the the truth of the matter. Like I would, I would, totally still I'd, I'd go, you know I would, I would record for for any of the big anime houses, you know, of course, if the opportunity arose.
Speaker 3:
18:40
But, like, when it comes to just dubbing in general, I've kind of started to pivot and I'm starting to move more into audiobooks. So you know, I'm just like I general, I've kind of started to pivot and I'm starting to move more into audio books. So you know, I'm just like. I'm like I did that. I want to try and test out some of the other things. I'm also really trying to break out into video games. That's been a challenge and a half. You know nothing, nothing yet, but you just keep trying. I don't know if that answered your question. I went off on a little bit of a tangent, but no it did.
Speaker 1:
19:04
No, it did Because, again, I know your journey, you know getting to this point has been different and I figured, like your journey now is probably a little bit different than you know, rue and Josh and Bay, as close-knit of a group as you guys are, and we'll talk maybe again a little bit about that here in a moment. But, Phil, like a good transition to you, like you're so early into your journey and I know that you are looking at some of these other things, whether it is dubbing something, whether it is audio books, gaming, so I think that's just really interesting to kind of hear how many other opportunities there are and that they're very similar but they're not always just like a guaranteed lock to get in because you do one thing. So, phil, I figured you had some, some pretty good insight and maybe a good question to throw in.
Speaker 2:
19:50
Yeah, absolutely so, you know. Like Donald saying, you know he's 11 years into his journey, I'm barely a year in. So I am looking to find creators with free projects that I can jump on, because I need to make a demo, you know, and I need to get stuff on the books and it's very interesting to you know, as you kind of I love people being able to say, you know, farther along in their journey, they have control over what they do and do not want to work with. Like I got chosen for an audio book pretty early on and then I realized I'm not going to have the time to both record this and edit it and I had to pass on it, you know, and then that. But that was a really valuable lesson for me to learn. So that was really really great too. But yeah, it's video.
Speaker 2:
20:33
Actually, I have a funny story. Just the other day, a game that I had submitted an audition for that I wasn't chosen for on Casting Call Club went up on Steam and was on the front page. I was like like hey, these guys didn't pick me. Everyone go give bad reviews to this game. Don't do that, please. It looks very fun, um, but it's just, it's crazy to see, like that was one of the first times I ever saw, like one of the things I auditioned for just out in the ether, you know it's like oh, I recognize that logo.
Speaker 2:
20:59
So I would really like to know, because obviously you know everybody, we've talked as far as your castmates, everybody is remote and it is kind of a I don't want to say it's a newer thing, but a lot of people, just like when it came to stand up comedy, which I did for a long time, or even acting, everyone was like you got to go to New York, you got to go to LA, you're in a hub when it comes to at least what I think of as far as film, when it comes to Atlanta and also TV. Have there been any advantages to being in a larger area when it comes to an Atlanta, or have you not seen really too much of a difference from you know, obviously you said when you were in South Florida you were getting a lot of roles and then all of a sudden that dried up. So has there been any anything advantageous to being in a bigger city for people that are thinking about maybe leaving where they currently are to go somewhere else?
Speaker 3:
21:51
For me personally? No, I thought it would. But you know, when I, when I had first moved up here, and you know, and I had nothing, like I was cold, I was emailing all the post studios, any ADR places, like anything and everything and like nothing, no responses, no, nothing. And you know, of course, now Marvel's leaving Atlanta. If you were unaware, they're moving to the UK, which is a huge hit because, like my next door neighbor works in Transpo for film, my neighbor, one straight over, he's a visual effects person.
Speaker 3:
22:25
He does a lot of the casting and molding. He worked on Guardians of the Galaxy Blade, the unreleased Blade that never came out. He was like I've started and stopped on that show so many damn times, but he worked on that he did. He built the Fortress of Solitude for the new Spider-Man, spider-man, superman, you know. So, like all these people, you know they're going to take some big hits.
Speaker 3:
22:47
But for me personally it hasn't been incredibly advantageous. But if I was looking to be an on-screen actor or get into like post for film and movies and stuff like that, I'm sure it would be a lot easier to get those jobs here than it would be anywhere else, you know, and that's not to say moving somewhere isn't going to help you. You know, like studios, like you know Crunchy and what's the other one, crunchy and Sentai. You know it's one of those things where you 90, you know, was it 90 something? Percent of the actors have to live there to work there, and everyone who doesn't are people who have worked there in the past but now maybe live in LA or something like that, and you know things like that.
Speaker 3:
23:33
But so for me, no, but it has, you know, it has totally helped other people. Just, if you do decide to make that kind of jump, be prepared. Like don't, don't just do it on a whim. Be like I'm going to be a voice actor and I've been doing it for six months, I'm going to move to Texas. Don't do that, because you're going to get chewed up and spit out. Like, get some stuff under your belt before you go and make those jumps. Not telling you not to do it Totally, do it if you want to do it.
Speaker 2:
24:05
But be like, make sure you're in a good place before you make that kind of jump. Yeah, I know a lot of Jacksonville based actors will. They'll go up to Atlanta for a day, they'll film a show, there'll be an extra in a TV show and they'll spend like a couple of days, like a weekend, a week, up there and you know they'll try and do as much as they can and they come back. So, yeah, I can definitely see it being much different. When it comes to voiceover, um, not necessarily being, as as you mentioned, as advantageous in terms of you know, your hub or wherever that is. Uh, you know, we've talked to both bae and rue, who mentioned they started off with a blanket over their head and a microphone and a laptop and you know what you guys can certainly do that too.
Speaker 2:
24:39
So, um, yeah, but yeah, eric, just curious, you know, because I you know that I have plans of eventually. You know I'm from Dallas, donald, I went to high school there, so like I do have kind of roots there as well. And but the West Coast calls to me like the Green Goblin mask man, like I want to go out there. So bad Talk about weather I definitely want to end up in, not necessarily LA. I'd like to maybe be in like a San Diego or like the outskirts, something like that. But yeah, you know me, eric, I am sorry, jacksonville, I'm trying to bounce.
Speaker 1:
25:09
Yeah, he's, he's itching, he's itching to leave. But you know, donald, let's, let's kind of bring it towards. You know, we've mentioned a couple of your castmates, from my dear friend no Katan, which is obviously how we got to meet you, which was just such a vibe, like again, the four of you especially really made a mark and it was really cool to see you guys interacting with fans, really exciting to see you guys interact with each other and just the whole vibe that you've had. So I kind of want to turn it to that question of, like, your interactions with your castmates and the experience you've had going to conventions. Like what has that been like to you? Again, something that is I wouldn't say out of the norm maybe for you, but I'm sure, like I'm sure it was maybe a culture shock at first. Like whenever somebody goes to their first con, I'm always interested to hear, like what was that culture shock for you?
Speaker 3:
26:04
So yeah, that was it. It was Brick City. I get brick and bold mixed up all the time, so it was Brick City, okay, yeah. So that was the first time I had met Rue, which was awesome, but actually my first convention was this really really small convention in, I want to say, sarasota, somewhere over on the west coast of Florida. It was called Southwest Florida Con and we were there for Gintama. They had hired, they had pulled like eight of us for Gintama to go over there and we did.
Speaker 3:
26:40
You know, we did that and it was terrible. We were not prepared, we didn't have prints. We had headshots with our characters on them and that's what we were selling. Like you know, we weren't ready, we didn't know, and Gintama had been out for like a year or two at that point already. So, like the hype was gone and you know we didn't think about it. It was just one of the guys was like, hey, why aren't we doing conventions? And I was like, yeah, why aren't we doing like whatever? And you know, we did that. But then we got to. We got to go to Supercon. So that was super.
Speaker 3:
27:14
That was the Supercon right after COVID. So it was like that first, that first big convention and that was interesting because it was like it was super weird because, you know, you had the plastic panels in front of you to not, like you know, touch people and things like that. So that was a very weird thing after going to conventions for so long as like an attendee and uh, it was really cool. And then, you know, getting getting to do like with nokatan was the first time I've really been able to like travel for these conventions, so that's been really, really, really cool. I've been, you know, first time I've really been able to like travel for these conventions, so that's been really, really, really cool. I've been, you know, visiting places I've never been, and that's what I get out of it, man, like I love meeting the fans and I love seeing new places and things like that. I mean, like, as for Culture Shock Rise, like I don't know, I lost the plot a little bit. Sorry, that happens a lot.
Speaker 1:
28:08
No, I mean like it was an interesting time to do it. Like conventions feel like they're just now finally getting back to the groove of what they were and honestly, phil, any convention that we go to is, like, significantly different from the other ones. So like, so, like it's, sometimes it's a culture shock across the board yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:
28:30
So so, yeah, like all the you know, the different conventions we did, honestly, bold and wasabi con, which I think honestly I think those were like our first two for nokatan were incredible and I still think were the best conventions we did, like it was awesome, like we had, like we didn't expect much. You know, like I had already done a couple of conventions and like got nothing. So I was like hey, like I was like temper expectations, like it is a big show, but like it's not the big show. You know, I was like so temper expectations, don't expect whatever. And it was great, so much better, blew expectations out of the water.
Speaker 3:
29:09
Those two conventions were amazing. And then all the other ones. They were good, they weren't bad, but going down to like because we had did Jacksonville basically like twice in like eight or nine months, which was a bad mistake, jacksonville basically like twice in like eight or nine months, which was a bad mistake Living well, mainly because, like everyone who had went to WasabiCon had you know it was like nine months ago they had already seen us why are we going to go to the same city twice in the same year? Like it's kind of, you know, learning experience for everything.
Speaker 3:
29:41
But those conventions have been great and then we've had others that have been not amazing and I will not I will not name any of them on where you can tie it to me. But yeah, like of course you can't win them all, you know, like some conventions you just don't make sales or they treat you like crap or like anything like that and like you know, it's all, it's all part of it. It's like, all right, heard not going to, just not going to go that one again, you know. But yeah, the getting to meet you guys at at brick and where you, you guys were at, bold too, right.
Speaker 1:
30:14
We were, there was another.
Speaker 3:
30:15
Yes, okay, I was just. You know, I'm like again two B's relatively somewhat close ish. But yeah, I hope that answers your question.
Speaker 1:
30:30
Yeah, no, no, I think that that's perfect. And you know, phil, I think this would be a good pivot. We typically like to talk some pop culture stuff, but did you have any other questions from like dubbing standpoint, audiobooks, anything like that, that you kind of wanted to dive in?
Speaker 2:
30:50
no, uh. Well, I'll ask one question convention related here in a moment. I do want to shout out donald, because multiple times he has, like live troubleshooted with me via instagram in terms of trying to figure out some of my audio. So thank you very much for that. You do not have to do that or take the time. So I appreciate you. As two people who have never been to a Dragon Con and the first time I ever looked into it I was like this is overwhelming, we're not going this year, we're going to have to try another year Do you have suggestions for newbies who have never been or experienced a Dragon Con? I did confirm, eric, that I did learn there are vendors there. I just never see pictures of them, but I just assumed everybody hung out in the hotel lobby because that's the only pictures I ever see from dragon con. So do you have suggestions for someone who has never been, for a couple people who have never been but want to go?
Speaker 3:
31:38
sure. So I've only actually I've only been once, that one time I haven't gone since, not for lack of trying, it's just it like it doesn't line up time-wise, but so to to set expectations a little bit, you've been being in florida. You've been to megacon, the biggest, you know, the biggest con in florida.
Speaker 2:
31:56
Yeah, it's like four of those jesus we already stopped going to megacon because it's overwhelming.
Speaker 3:
32:03
So DragonCon is incredibly overwhelming but it is like I will always recommend it Because, like you know, megacon, with the amount of people they have, like you know, everyone's shoulder to shoulder, all the aisles are cramped in and whatever you know. So something about DragonCon and where it is in Atlanta, right. So Dragon Con takes place over about I think it's five hotels, so it's five buildings. The dealer's room is four to five stories of vendors selling stuff. The reason you're not finding pictures of the vendor hall is because no one takes pictures in the vendor hall, because it's crazy and like you, just like you don't hang out in the vendor hall like you do at any of these other conventions. The vendor hall is the vendor hall. If you're going to go hang out, you're going to do it somewhere else. Like it's five hotels, like it's a nonstop party, like that was something I was not, I wasn't ready for, but we only went for one day and it's like I think a five-day convention or something like that, or a four-day convention and they do the parade and everything like that. But one tip I will say is, before you ever go, make sure you look at the panels and make sure you block out time to see those panels, because if you don't, you won't go. You won't get there. If you want, you're like, all right, I recommend also taking one day to do the dealer's room, just one and one of those things. It's not like you can go in and out. If you go in that dealer's room, don't come back out Because you're going to have to wait three or four hours to get back in.
Speaker 3:
33:42
When we went, so we showed up, we got, or four hours to get back in. When we went, so we showed up, we got our tickets and everything and we lined up outside the dealer hall. This was like an hour and a half before the place opened and the line wrapped around the building twice. So it is insane. But you know, you get into the dealer's room even at full capacity. You don't feel like claustrophobic, which blew my mind. It was crazy, like I was. Like the aisles are wide, like the vendors have space, there's space to move, like it felt really like I was like for the amount of people that's here, it does not feel as crowded as it is, which was amazing. But again, you, you know you look out the window and you see the line wrapped around the building eight times of people just move and the line never stops moving. People are always coming in, but it's a lot, and then the panels are in a completely different building.
Speaker 3:
34:35
So that's why I say, if you want to do panels, don't do it on a day where you're going to go to the dealer's room because you're not going to leave, you're not going to want to leave because you won't get back in. The Artist Alley is also in a different hotel, the Tabletop Gaming is in a different hotel. Like it's crazy, but all the hotels are connected by either Skybridge or Underground Tunnel, which is pretty dope. So there's like the Marta Station, which is our like train. Our metro train is actually underground and it goes right underneath where Dragon Con is. There's like a train station right there. So, like what I'm going to do next year or when, the next time I go is I'm just going to drive to the Marta station, take the train in and do it like that Cause, cause, I'm sorry, fuck parking in Atlanta and fuck parking for Dragon Con even more. So, like you know, that's it.
Speaker 3:
35:28
I would say you know, make sure you really have to plan efficiently to make do with your time, like if you're only going to go for one day. Don't plan on seeing panels, or I should say, either plan on doing the panels and other stuff or the dealer's room. You're probably not going to really be able to do both, but there's a lot of really cool stuff to see and it is an amazing convention. It's incredible. I'm very excited to go back. Hopefully we're going to do it again next year because it just happened while I was on vacation, otherwise we would have went. But yeah, those three tips I think are pretty good. Now, this is also coming from one person who only went once. I'm sure DragonCon veterans can totally, you know, give you some more better tips about the parties and the you know and staying safe and things like that. But since I wasn't staying there, I didn't have that part of the experience.
Speaker 2:
36:19
I will say this I definitely think. Another part of it for me is listen, I've driven in Los Angeles and I've driven in Atlanta, and Atlanta is the city I at least like to drive my car in in the entire country. I hate it so much. Every time I drive to Atlanta we usually stop like an hour before, ahead of time, so I can switch seats with somebody and let them drive into the city because I hate it. So, but yeah, eric, we, you know, we just had to gather all those tips as much as we can before making that Dragon Con leave, because, yeah, it's something we certainly would want to commit multiple days to, for sure.
Speaker 1:
36:52
Yeah.
Speaker 3:
36:52
Oh yeah, and it's, and it's worth it. And sorry, just to piggyback off the traffic thing, so driven in Atlanta, dc, la and Miami.
Speaker 2:
37:04
Oh, Miami sucks.
Speaker 3:
37:06
Miami is the worst one. I forgot about Miami. Fight me. I have people in LA telling me LA's worse. I have people in Atlanta telling me Atlanta's worse. I'm like y'all can fuck off. Miami is the worst, Miami sucks.
Speaker 2:
37:20
Fight me, fight me, me. I agree with you. Miami sucks man. I uh, maybe you know, maybe the reason we haven't been down to one of those conventions down there, super whatever, super con or whatever they do, the galaxy con shows, yeah, yeah, it always the miami ones and the atlanta ones always come up.
Speaker 1:
37:36
And then it should. We find like a thousand reasons not to do it, but I think dragon cons the one that will probably bite sooner than later.
Speaker 2:
37:45
I will say, eric, it was actually the one year anniversary, I think, yesterday of myself, Eric, my sister and brother-in-law. We drove down to sunrise to go see childish Gambino oh, that's weird, I'm wearing this shirt and we, we did a quick turnaround, so we went down and came back and that wasn't too bad. But that final stretch and there's just nothing, it's just boring is so bad. We did pretty well, so we left in the afternoon, early afternoon, and then we got back the next morning at like 4 am and we were all like, oh, we're too old for that, ever again, but totally worth it, great show. And he also ended up having to cancel the tour after that for health reasons. So we at least we got to see it right before that happened, which was really nice.
Speaker 2:
38:24
It was worth it, but never again never again.
Speaker 1:
38:27
Yeah, no, no, we're not. Uh, we're not that, uh, that limber anymore. But you know, Donald, before we get into some of the more casual stuff, you were talking a little bit in the pre-show about how like this year has gone for you and like it's been a minute since you haven't been working on this project. So tell me a little bit about, like your work with the Stormlight Archive, Because that's like, first of all, huge, Second of all, super exciting, Like what has been your experience and like that's something you're still actively kind of like devoted to. So give us a little bit of insight into that, as much as you can, of course. Uh, you know, keeping that in mind.
Speaker 3:
39:10
Yeah, no, I can, I can, I can totally talk about it, cause, uh, so, for anyone not familiar, uh, stormlight Archive is a epic fantasy series, uh, by Brandon Sanderson. He's I love him personally, but he's not everyone's cup of tea, you know. Like I get it, I'm not going to be the guy to be like you don't like Brandon Sanderson, you can't be a friend of mine, like no, but it's been. It's been incredibly rewarding and infuriating, like it's. So, if you have you ever seen a stormlight book out in the wild, the cover looks familiar not, I don't know about the stormlight one.
Speaker 1:
39:50
I mean I've seen brandon sanderson books out there, for sure like the way a king's always comes up on like, uh, like, as an example of like books that will just pop up on my feed and people will talk about. Like I read this and it was amazing, and it's always like books like that, where the covers really stand out to me.
Speaker 3:
40:08
Yeah, so Way of Kings is the first Stormlight book, but what I was going to bring up is that they are, they're big boys. So Wind and Truth, which is book five the one I'm working on is the biggest one, yet it is just it's like barely under 500,000 words. I thought I had the book in here, I don't. It is huge, like I think it's on your hand, I think it's like this. It is massive, and so that's been a big challenge. So you know, that's why I should say that's why it's been, and so that's been a big challenge. So you know, that's why I should say that's why it's been taking so long.
Speaker 3:
40:45
You know the way the way graphic audio works is like if a book is exceptionally long, they'll split it up into parts. And, uh, that used to be because of storage restraints, you know, way back in the day, because they used to release stuff on CD. That's how old graphic audio is. And so it's split into five parts, 10 sides per part, which are basically like 10 sections, and each section is about 10 to fit usually around 10,000 words or so. So it's like each part is about 100,000 words, words or so. So it's like each part is about 100,000 words and it being the fifth book means a lot of creative choices and things like that had already been done for me. You know, I am the third director, I think Second or third. It's a little convoluted who did the first couple? So that's been a hurdle because, you know, having to one massive cast list. So I'm like having to go through this gigantic old cast list to try, you know, be like alright, who was this character? Who plays them, things like that. It's like going through massive amounts of characters trying to figure out who plays who, figuring out which characters had their names change halfway through, because sometimes the characters' names change and then they'll cast someone else as a different actor, but it's still the same character. So I'm like, all right, what timelines do I need to readjust to make it all make sense and things like that. The name pronunciations.
Speaker 3:
42:21
There's also an incredibly difficult side to this. There is an entire group of people in this series that speak to rhythms to convey emotion rather than normal emotion. We have rhythms that they have to speak and hum to. It's really hard. It's really hard. So, like those are some big, big challenges and also having to recast some of the prominent characters, like I've had some like big, like that's the main complaint I've seen a lot of people have with with wind and truth and some of the other ones is having to recast uh, main characters like the character. I think one of the main characters, adeline, he's been he's been recast twice. I think, like a couple of the main characters have all the character. I think one of the main characters, adolin, he's been recast twice. I think, like a couple of the main characters have all been recast a handful of times.
Speaker 3:
43:06
You know the series has been going on for Jesus who knows like really, really, really long. Like the first book, the first graphic audio version of Stormlight, came out in I'm waiting for the page to load 2016. So almost 10 years this series has been going on with graphic audio. So like of course, you have some actors who stop working or even die, like it's been that. But like the main challenge has been trying to maintain continuity based on everything that came before me. That's the hardest part, you know. So making sure the characters stay true to themselves, making sure all the like you know continuity is there and trying to decipher these goddamn notes from the previous director and also the previous the main sound designer who used to be the director on like the first couple parts. When he quit graphic audio he took all his sound effects and music with him that he made because he did a lot of custom music and sound effects for the thing Just took them left and I'm like, okay, so I don't have these anymore and I have no reference. So I'm like I feel I felt so bad for my designer. I was like, hey, man, like we're going to have to recreate like all of these effects that were like have been around since book one that we no longer have. And you know things like that, like just trying to make everything, everything cohesive with all the books that came before. That's been the biggest challenge. I'd say, um, but the talent's been great.
Speaker 3:
44:42
The script adaptation has been. It's been really fun, but again, incredibly frustrating trying to solve those problems and just because the book is so dense, it just takes a long time. Like, yeah, I started on it in December of last year and I am just now starting the adaptation process on part five, which is the final part. So you know, parts one and two are out, part three will be out this month at some point and I think part four comes out in like November and I think part five is going to be January or something like that. I'm not entirely sure. The dates aren't completely final yet. But yeah, man, it's been a hell of a ride. Incredibly proud of what we've done so far. I think it sounds amazing and you know, to be able to work on a Sanderson property in an official capacity has been like a real dream come true. As someone who's been a Sanderson fan for a pretty long time, yeah, it's super cool.
Speaker 1:
45:36
I mean I'm not even in that world because I can't read, I can't read, I can't read, so but it's just like really cool to hear about that. I'm just overwhelmed of the book from afar, so I can only imagine how you're feeling, phil. Has that ever been like as Brandon Sanderson ever been on your radar? Like again, for people who are in it, like he's like the guy, he's like the guy, right, but for us, phil, probably something we'll never dive into. What is that? Something that you would do, because, again, you do tend to read books from time to time. What would it take for you to jump into one?
Speaker 2:
46:12
Well, for me, I mean, it's always an audio book. So, like, the most recent thing, of course, that I did was Project Hail Mary, because they kept spoiling the movie and spoiling the book in the trailer. So I was like, let me, let me listen to this damn thing. So, yeah, I never say never, just because that is so it's so accessible in terms of audio books. Now it's like you know, I'll probably do one or two a year, so that would be the way that I would definitely go into it. So you know, love hearing how much work goes into it. I feel kind of bad now for complaining about 150,000 words from the project that I got selected for earlier. That was like you, bitch, do it, but no, it was yeah. But yeah, it's really cool hearing some of the behind the scenes. I guess one question I'll ask when we're talking about audiobook does listening to an audiobook count as reading? Some people have strong opinions about this.
Speaker 3:
47:05
Fuck them. Yes, it does. I don't care. You're consuming the media, dog. Because I'm the same way, bro. I can't read. It's hard for me to sit down and read a book. I don't know why I feel like it's wasting time and it's wasting time and like it's not. It's perfectly fine. But, like, for whatever reason, my internal clock is like don't do that. Why don't you just sit and stare at your computer screen and not do a goddamn thing for three hours and look at your steam library?
Speaker 2:
47:29
I was just gonna say look, which one of these games in my steam library am I not gonna play so I totally like consume the media how you want to consume the media, you know.
Speaker 3:
47:39
Like read the audiobook. Fuck the haters who cares? Like you know. At the end of the day, like if it really you know if it chaps their ass that much that you listened to the audiobook and didn't read the book. They need to go touch grass.
Speaker 2:
47:56
Like you know, people need to stop letting stupid little things like take control of their lives yeah, so, and also just like we talked about earlier in terms of like a bad audio or anything, or quality can ruin a podcast for me or whatever a great narrator in a book man. The narrator for project hail mary is ray porter, I believe, and people like after I, of course. After I finished, the narrator for Project Hail Mary is Ray Porter, I believe, and people like after I, of course. After I finished the book, I got a bunch of Instagram reels about people also that had just finished the book and everyone was like you guys got to listen to this audio book. So, like a really great narrator can change the entire thing. So that's why I also listen to a lot of like autobiography. So, if it's, if it's read by the person, like eric, I've listened to leslie odom juniors and he reads it. You know it's him. Or simu liu, you know. So it's really cool to hear them, jojo, like whenever they read it themselves. I love that as well.
Speaker 2:
48:49
So but, donald, what do you do? You know you said you just took a vacation, so that's great, but in between work and you know, eric and I can also very much relate to this, because we're sitting, like you said, we're sitting at these screens all day and eventually we have to step away and do something else. Do something else on the screen. What do you do for yourself? What are those things that you nerd out on you? Just actually, before we started, started talking about a collection that you're starting to put together here that, if you're not watching on the YouTube version of this podcast is very prominently displayed. So what do you do for yourself? To kind of kill some time? What fandoms are you into and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:
49:26
So, yeah, I guess we can start with like on my screen, I know it like I can't quite see it, it's a little cut off. But I've started kind of going back and collecting some of my old childhood consoles. It started with the Dreamcast, then I got a Super Nintendo, an original Nintendo and a PS1. You know, I've actually been collecting that Like I actually recently just finally beat disc one of Final Fantasy IX, so like I've been slowly working through that. That was one I never played, like you know. So I'm like enjoying that. So retro gaming a little bit. I also have like a handheld um ein odin 2. So like I do I do some retro gaming and stuff on that as well. I also, you know, I, I, uh I play mmos too. Like I've um, I'm currently playing, uh, horizon 11, which is a final fantasy 11 like private server with like some added extras. Like it's like they're basically taking the game, keeping it at the level cap of the original game and then like releasing the old content, but so everything's like horizontal versus, like having to level up and whatever it is, it's fun to me. It's an MMO I never played back in the day. So like all my friends who are playing it with me, are like living vicariously through me redoing all the stuff they've done when they were kids and I'm like this is so fucking cool. And they're like, yeah, it is. I remember the first, I remember my first beer, you know like that kind of thing. But you know, outside of, you know gaming and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:
50:58
I also do mountain biking Not so much recently because, again, stormlight's been my whole life pretty much, so I haven't really I used to be able to take an hour or two in the morning and go for a ride before work, but now I can't really do that until Stormlight's over, just because it's just so dense. But I do mountain biking and that's my touch. Grass, you know, go outside moments and you know traveling. When I can, I do write a little bit. I don't have anything to like, you know, put out there yet, but like one of my goals, probably within the next five years maybe, would be to try and produce like my own audio drama or book or something, something like that. I've been really really, really wanting to to do that recently and the itch is starting to itch really bad. So I'm probably going to start trying to dive into that a little bit more.
Speaker 3:
51:54
But um, but yeah, man, mountain biking, you know general nerd stuff, like again, I don't watch a lot of stuff, but you know, old school animes, of course, are still my. You know my bread and butter. Like now, to preface, I do not condone the mangaka's behavior at all, but Rurouni Kenshin was my favorite. You know like I, no longer I don't support Watsuki at all, but Rurouni Kenshin was my favorite. You know like I, no longer I don't support Watsuki at all, but you know I.
Speaker 3:
52:27
You know, luckily for me, before the allegations came out, I had already pretty much bought the entire manga, the anime series, everything. So I've got it all. I could still enjoy the media guilt relatively guilt-free, I should say. You know, like I still feel bad, but like you know, I'm like, look, I bought all these things before all this shit happened. So like whatever, and I'm not actively supporting him, like I haven't watched the new show, I haven't, you know, bought anything like licensed firsthand, like everything's always secondhand or anything like that. But Rurouni Kenshin was like the first anime that really like locked me in. You know, outside of dragon ball z, which I think it was everyone's like thing, but like roni, kenshin was the first one that I was like whoa this is so cool, like it's.
Speaker 3:
53:11
It's. It's more like realistic, but awesome.
Speaker 1:
53:15
I don't know it's one of those, but uh, yeah, I mean, um, one of the things that you kind of mentioned with the gaming is is that something like are you just the classic, like, like you like playing the classics, you like the nostalgia, or is there anything?
Speaker 2:
53:33
Look at that boxy TV back there. Look at that thick boy back there.
Speaker 1:
53:37
God damn, I was going to say you know, you mentioned you, you mentioned trying to stream it at one point and stuff like that. Is there anything in the last decade that has scratched that itch, anywhere close to what you get when you get from playing those nostalgic games? Anything in the past decade that's really caught your eye or is stand out to you?
Speaker 3:
53:57
Baldur's Gate 3.
Speaker 1:
53:59
Definitely Baldur's.
Speaker 3:
54:00
Gate 3. Definitely, definitely Baldur's Gate 3. That thing sucked me in and would not let me go for a while and, surprisingly enough, I actually don't have that many hours in. I think I beat it and it was between 70 and 80 hours Because, to be fair, like in the early game, I was like I'm going to do everything and then by the time I got to the third act I was like I just need to finish this fucking game because my ADD is going to make me not want to play it anymore.
Speaker 3:
54:23
So like I need to finish it. So I kind of like streamlined the back end a little bit. But that game was like incredible. And, of course, uh uh, claire, obscure expedition 33 was pretty uh, gameplay wise, amazing the story. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't played it, but one of the later acts. There's a trope in there that I am not a fan of and it immediately made me not want to finish the game. But that's me. Personally, I will never not recommend the game. It's incredible Gameplay-wise. They shook up the turn-based formulas so well. If y'all haven't tried it or haven't played it, highly recommend. And I mean outside of of that. Like you know, there's some things here and there like uh, hard, honestly hard to say, but like those are like the two standouts for me of the past, you know however long that have really like grabbed me and held me.
Speaker 1:
55:22
Yeah, I mean two of the biggest games that have come out in recent memory too, and like Baldur's Gate three, I played with a couple of friends on my PlayStation. I was like number one, I'd rather play this on a PC, which I now have, and then number two, I'd rather play it by myself because nobody likes the choices I'm making. So I just would get yelled at constantly but then also told I can't be told anything, so I have to figure it out on my own. It was a very weird dynamic at play, but Claire Obscure is actually going to be the episode that drops before this one.
Speaker 1:
55:54
So we I have finished the game and Phil was at the end of Act one. I told him he had to get to the end of the act one for obvious reasons, but at that point he could kind of talk about the game. Uh, to a specific capacity, and I agree with you, like clear obscure. I get why a lot of people kind of tried to push it as, like game of the year front runner. It's a great game but story and character wise might be the weakest elements. Like I definitely think the combat is what kept me going for so long, but there was, I mean, act two is also just long as fuck. So I was like I got to, I got to get through it and I wasn't too too fond of it. But who knows, maybe I'll like it. They're doing a live action adaptation so, phil, maybe that'll be good.
Speaker 3:
56:42
We'll see, as I want to point out spoiler. You know as spoiler free as I can be, getting to the point that I think you know what I'm talking about where you get to the end of the game and it's not the end of the game. I'm not going to tell you where that happens, but it's like you get there and then the thing happens and I was like oh, oh, come on. Like I was like bro, you sucked me right out, like you had me, because, like I was digging the story, I loved it, I loved the mystery. Like some of the characters were a little eh, but like overall, like I was really digging the story. I was like you know, I'm like fight this bitch. Like I'm going to do this thing, I'm going to do this, whatever, I'm going to save these people, do this shit. Like I want to uncover the mystery of what the fuck is going on. And then I did and I didn't like it.
Speaker 1:
57:33
Yeah, you know, I would have cool with it just being, you know the paint rest and and renoir, and then you know stuff like that. But then, like again, they, they try to do a lot. I would say that whole third act. I was like, all right, let's, uh, let's, let's wrap this one up. You know, let's, let's wrap it up. But yeah, no, phil, claire, obscure talk is always great.
Speaker 2:
57:54
Uh, I, I know you still have to beat the game, but uh, it'll be very I'm still very curious what your reaction is going to be yeah, I also had to lower the difficulty because I suck at parrying and dodging, so I'm like playing just to get to get the story elements because like, yeah, it's just not my thing. Uh, no matter what the game is, I think the only one I mentioned this when we recorded the other night, like the only one I was kind of okay at outside of, like batman and spider-man, but that's because there's very clear indicators of when you're supposed to hit the button was like ghost of tsushima and I was like okay at that. But otherwise parrying and dodging not my bag man. So I am excited to to get through the game and have my thoughts in terms of the ending because, yeah, you're now that you're the second person that has also said that we haven't talked talked to a whole lot of people, eric, that have finished the game, so that is very interesting to hear from both of you for sure.
Speaker 2:
58:45
What is? As somebody who has collected some old school consoles, you also have obviously experience with the newer stuff. I always like to ask this question what's the best video game controller ever?
Speaker 3:
59:02
Probably the DualShock. Honestly, I think the like I mean the Xbox controller is great too, honestly, like the way it is, but it's a tie man between the Xbox controller and the DualShock. Yeah, man, I think I'm sitting here like what's more comfortable, having the thumb up here and down here, or both down here?
Speaker 2:
59:29
Eric, grab your controller.
Speaker 3:
59:30
We all have to.
Speaker 1:
59:31
I mean they're kind of the same really.
Speaker 3:
59:34
I'm just gonna say Everyone grab their controller. I'll say the DualShock walked, so the new age Xbox controller could run, you know, and I mean the PS5 controller, the DualSense, whatever the hell they call it, I don't fucking know. They're great too. But like you know anything with the two joysticks, because I mean, like I've been playing, like trying to play the Dreamcast with one stick. I'm like, oh my God, trying to play Sonic Adventure 2, I'm like Jesus Christ and the Dreamcast had the memory card in it that also had a screen on it.
Speaker 3:
1:00:12
Yeah, dude, I used to play the Chao Garden on that shit all the time. To be fair, that's the only reason I beat. Sonic Adventure 2 was to get the shit from my chow garden. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
1:00:27
My answer for the longest time was the 360 slash, the Xbox controller. But you just mentioned I love the PS5 controller and, eric, I know you don't really use yours that much anymore but as far as, like the evolution of the PlayStationstation controller, I feel like the ps5 is where they've really really gotten it down and I've I've expressed not frustration but like I just a wish that it was as compatible on steam as the xbox controller, because I just really love using it. I've been able to connect it to my pc, but it just sometimes it just doesn't work right. So I'm just like I'm just not going to deal with this and I'll just use the xbox one. So yeah, but I love that ps5 controller, man. I think it's pretty solid yeah, ps5 controller.
Speaker 1:
1:01:04
I mean especially when with astrobot, um and astro's playroom like that, that like really maximized the controller no one else ever used those features.
Speaker 2:
1:01:12
Features again I just don't.
Speaker 1:
1:01:14
I'll never understand why you can blow into your controller and that's not just like a mechanic in like multiple games or franchises. I don't, I don't understand it I'll never hear it.
Speaker 2:
1:01:25
Sony eric wants to blow into his controller. Make it happen, guys.
Speaker 1:
1:01:27
Make it happen, make it happen. But uh, yeah, no, I mean, you know a little bit of talks on some of the some of the things that you're into, uh, donald. So what is it gonna take for us for uh to get you to watch k-pop demon hunters, what is uh, what is that gonna take?
Speaker 3:
1:01:46
I'm waiting for my wife to come back from deployment. Hell, yeah, because I told her I was like. I was like I was like nicole, when you come back home, can we watch k-pop demon hunters? Because we also. We don't watch a lot of things together because she doesn't, she likes to just sit and read. She doesn't like to watch a lot of things. So I kind of have to force her or coerce her a little bit. But I was like k-pop demon hunters, it's, you know, it's, it's k-pop, the music's good and whatever. And I'm like I want to watch it, but like I'd like to watch it with you. So I'm like I'm waiting for her to come back from deployment, which is two weeks, two weeks give or take, something like that. So yeah, my wife travels for work, fyi, but yeah, I'm waiting for her to come home. So you don't got to try too hard, I want to watch it. And if we don't watch it while she's home and she leaves again on another deployment, I'm just going to watch it by myself.
Speaker 1:
1:02:36
Okay, no, I'm just making sure. Just making sure, Is there anything that you've been wanting to check out that's in your queue, like anything that you've been like just kind of pushing off to the side, whether it is an anime, maybe like a newer series or a show or a movie, anything that's kind of sitting in your queue alongside K-pop Demon Hunters right now?
Speaker 3:
1:03:06
right now, so in my queue the bear was kind of up there. I did start watching that, though, so that's not quite in my queue anymore. I haven't finished it yet, but that, bro, arguably one of the most stressful shows I've ever watched in my life, oh for sure, yeah, phil couldn't keep watching it.
Speaker 1:
1:03:15
he's like this is just what you guys dealt with in the restaurant industry. I'm like it's pretty accurate Not going to lie to you.
Speaker 3:
1:03:24
Yeah, like you know, I live with bartenders, so like I'm like, yeah, I'm like this is, it's so visceral, oh my God. But yeah, so the bear was one of them Psychopaths. I want to go back and actually finish Psycho Pass, because that series was so dope. I was like this is the new age Ghost in the Shell and I'm so here for it, like I am ready, and I was enjoying the hell out of it. But then I kind of fell off. What else? Like I know there's stuff and of course, as soon as you ask the question, it just Out, it goes. But yeah, that's right now in my, in my queue. Oh the, the League of Legends show god damn it, oh arcane yes, arcane, thank you.
Speaker 3:
1:04:10
I think I I had I'm like almost done with season one and like yeah. So, like you know, I I do things in in like spurts like I'll be like hell, yeah, with the bear. I was like I watched season one in a couple days and then I just stopped watching it. I got halfway through season two, I should say, and then just stopped Stupid crap like that. But I mean, yeah, those are probably the most recent things that I've wanted to try to dive back into a little bit.
Speaker 1:
1:04:43
Yeah, and Arcane's really easy to kind of do that because it has those three episode batches that it was released in. So it kind of is a nice neat little bow after a couple episodes.
Speaker 2:
1:04:52
I think that's why I rewatch it so much is just because of that specifically. You can get through three episodes and you're done with a mini arc and then they move on to the next one. So season two needed a little bit more as far as that. So I'll be interested to hear what you think once you get to season two. But it's still still very, very good. Shout out to them they just won another Emmy, so yeah, but the bear, like Eric said, I couldn't get into the bear like I wanted to, but it does have some of the funniest moments of any show I've ever seen. And also Forks is one of the best episodes of television that's ever been created. That's the episode title, right, eric Forks.
Speaker 1:
1:05:25
I believe. So yeah, and that's season two.
Speaker 2:
1:05:33
Yes. So whenever it comes up on my algorithm like a clip from that, I'm like, yep, I'm going to sit here and watch this, this is great. But yeah, I totally get that there's just so much to get through and I'll start something. And then I'll be like, oh, I also want to start this and, you know, maybe I also want to listen to an audio book or play a video game, and it just just there's just not enough time, man.
Speaker 1:
1:05:47
Not enough time, yeah, not enough time in the day. I'm excited to get into this and I am going to be leading this, phil, for the first time, so you might have to walk me through some of this. I'm going to do my best, but we are going to play a game of jeopardy, so you guys should be able to see, lord my screen a little pop culture jeopardy. All right, not trademarked, not, so feel free. If you got to use the qr code or you could go to playfactilecom join, you're going to put in the code and then, uh, you're going to select what you want to represent your team, and we've got several different categories. I really tried to go broad with this one, so we are gonna see. We're gonna see how this goes. These are usually pitted against phil, uh, but, phil, I will tell you there are some in there specifically for you okay.
Speaker 2:
1:06:50
Okay, it took me to the sign-in screen instead, I think probably because I usually sign in, but let me.
Speaker 1:
1:06:57
Usually sign in. We got Onion, I get to see all the characters.
Speaker 2:
1:07:03
Actually, we did play this at work, eric, the other day, and I had to tell the instructor how to use it properly. I was like hey, you can just do this, just so you know. Nice, obviously, I'm to tell the instructor how to like use it properly. I was like hey, uh, you can just do this, just so you don't nice obviously I'm going dinosaur.
Speaker 1:
1:07:20
Why is a mosasaur on here? More sources and a dinosaur. It's an aquatic. Okay, never mind, I will go with my favorite you're getting. You're getting a little too invested.
Speaker 2:
1:07:23
Okay, we'll go with my favorite dinosaurs.
Speaker 1:
1:07:25
Okay, all right, cool, cool. So we got onion and spinosaurus a tale a battle as old as time I'm going to be, terrible at this, oh man.
Speaker 1:
1:07:37
All right, let's go ahead and begin our game here. So you guys will have your buzzer on your phones. You can buzz in. Once the question is being read, it will light up after a few seconds. First one to buzz in gets the chance at the actual thing here. Also, phil, I don't know if you knew this, because you usually have people send in the final fact tile answer. It looks like they can enter it, so I'm going to try to do that feature Cool. So we're going to see if that actually works. But, yeah, let's go ahead and jump into the category. So you guys are going to see six categories here Blockbusters and bombs, video game icons name this meme 90s, kid, 2020s moments and pop culture, geography. So, donald, as our guest, you get to select the board first. Where would you like to go and how much?
Speaker 3:
1:08:32
Huh, I'm going gonna be an asshole. Let's do 90s kid for a thousand hell yeah, I'm gonna miss it I know I'm gonna. I know it's gonna be something so stupid. I'm gonna know I'm gonna miss it, but screw it, let's do it, I'm gonna lose.
Speaker 1:
1:08:44
I'm gonna lose right off the bat. All right, 90s kids, or a hundred, a thousand. What 90s kids show aired on fox kids, where a band of kids transform into comic book heroes after a ghost grants them powers battling comic villain adversaries you know, fantastic, because, uh, I was the one, I was the one kid who didn't watch fox fox kids.
Speaker 3:
1:09:09
I did cartoon network hours, this.
Speaker 1:
1:09:12
This one is going to be interesting. No buzzers.
Speaker 2:
1:09:18
Not going to risk a thousand dollars. Are you out of your mind?
Speaker 3:
1:09:21
Yeah, you got Damn.
Speaker 1:
1:09:26
Was I the only person who watched Big Bad Beetle Boys?
Speaker 2:
1:09:30
Oh my god, you're right Son of a bitch, I had the toys man, I had the toys Dude.
Speaker 1:
1:09:37
Beetleborgs was my shit Beetleborgs was my shit.
Speaker 3:
1:09:42
So I was more of a. I knew of the Beetleborgs Cause my neighbor was a Beetleborgs kid and I was a Power Rangers kid. So, like, yeah, okay, like I know of the Beetleborgs, I guess I never actually paid attention to the show.
Speaker 1:
1:09:58
Yeah, no, beetleborg slaps Donald. That's okay, you guys are evened up, you got equal disappointment Top and the bottom, so that's good. And nobody said the negatives. Where would you like to go and how much?
Speaker 2:
1:10:11
Oh, me again. Yeah, because nobody got it, so it's still your board.
Speaker 3:
1:10:13
Okay, it's still your board. Let's do name this meme for 400.
Speaker 1:
1:10:18
Okay, name this meme 400.
Speaker 2:
1:10:27
This meme holds a single caption from one of the most famous movies of all time to describe what people can't do.
Speaker 1:
1:10:33
Single caption from one of the most famous movies of all time to describe what people can't do.
Speaker 2:
1:10:37
It's okay, you got about 10 seconds. Oh my God, single caption for one of the most famous movies of all time.
Speaker 3:
1:10:41
It's going to be dumb. It's going to be so dumb.
Speaker 1:
1:10:43
You guys are going to get mad, we're going to get mad.
Speaker 3:
1:10:44
I know we're going to get mad.
Speaker 1:
1:10:46
This is an all-timer. All right, let's go ahead and reveal. Reveal our answer.
Speaker 3:
1:10:49
Oh, I buzzed. Whoops, I don't know the answer. I went to go put my phone down and I hit it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:
1:10:56
That's okay, that's okay, I'm going to skip it anyway. I'm not going to deduct you. All right? The answer. Oh son of a bitch.
Speaker 3:
1:11:04
From Lord of the Rings. If you would have put simple, if you weren't.
Speaker 1:
1:11:19
One doesn't. Yeah, that would have given away though. Okay, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's what it was. It was. It was difficult roll tonight. Well guys, uh, we shall see if I created the hardest game of culture jeffrey to date. It is my first go at this so, phil, I now do not envy you.
Speaker 2:
1:11:27
Uh, donald, it's still your board, though you also did one more row that I typically do. I only usually do four.
Speaker 1:
1:11:32
I didn't know I could remove a row. I know that now we're doing it live. We're doing it live.
Speaker 3:
1:11:39
Let's do it, we're doing it live, let's do. Video game icons for 200.
Speaker 1:
1:11:45
Video game icons 200. The protagonist of this classic PlayStation game is known for his spins collecting apples and crashing crates.
Speaker 2:
1:11:53
Damn, how'd you get that before me?
Speaker 1:
1:11:57
Donald, what is your answer?
Speaker 3:
1:11:58
Crash Bandicoot, it is.
Speaker 1:
1:12:03
Crash Bandicoot. Very good, alright, you still control the board.
Speaker 3:
1:12:07
Where would you like to go? How much 2020's moments for 400?
Speaker 1:
1:12:14
Okay it's a daily double. Which sensational court case between two celebrities dominated 2022 online fast enough donald, johnny depp and amber heard that is correct. That is correct for the Daily Double alright, well, man, daily Double, that looked good. Alright, that was nice, did it actually? Yeah, no, okay that was for 400, you got 800, okay. Well, every time Phil says there's a Daily Double. I've never seen that animation, I just wanted to make sure, donald, where would you like to go next?
Speaker 1:
1:12:56
uh, let's do god, let's do 90s kid for 400 what virtual pet toy required feeding, cleaning and care when it hatched from a small egg device popular with the kids in the 90s? What?
Speaker 2:
1:13:15
I didn't even get the option to hit the button.
Speaker 3:
1:13:19
Really, I mean to be fair. I was spamming it.
Speaker 2:
1:13:22
I was like as soon as I was like.
Speaker 1:
1:13:25
I love that this is working against you, phil. Yes, tamagotchi is correct, it's correct?
Speaker 2:
1:13:31
Did you guys ever get the alien Tamagotchi when it evolved to its fullest form? No, I killed it every time I did once, and then it got taken away from me in school, so it died while my teacher had it in her desk.
Speaker 1:
1:13:43
I'll never forgive her. That's tough, Donald. Where would you like to go next?
Speaker 3:
1:13:50
Let's do pop culture geography for 200. I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 1:
1:13:56
The fictional city of Gotham is largely based on this real US city, phil. That is unfortunate. Oh my God Donald.
Speaker 3:
1:14:08
That's what I was going to say. New York, it is.
Speaker 1:
1:14:12
New York Metropolis is in.
Speaker 3:
1:14:14
New York, I think Metropolis is Chicago, isn't it Chicago?
Speaker 1:
1:14:17
Oh, it's reverse, I believe so God damn it.
Speaker 2:
1:14:20
The Batman movies have the bridges in them, the Chicago.
Speaker 1:
1:14:26
Yeah, that's the 200 one too. I thought that was obvious. I didn't know the.
Speaker 3:
1:14:32
Dark Knight movies have the Chicago bridges. No, no, like I said, I thought it was Chicago too. Like I was, like, isn't it Chicago?
Speaker 1:
1:14:40
Yeah, no, no, it is not.
Speaker 3:
1:14:42
If you see my face, I was like oh shit, all right.
Speaker 1:
1:14:46
Well, donald, you're running away with this already. Where do you want to go?
Speaker 3:
1:14:50
Let's do Blockbusters and Bombs for $200.
Speaker 1:
1:14:54
Alright. This 1975 film, directed by Steven Spielberg, is often credited as launching the modern summer blockbuster film.
Speaker 2:
1:15:02
Jaws.
Speaker 1:
1:15:04
It is Jaws.
Speaker 2:
1:15:06
Great job. I just saw theaters. I almost said ET. It was either Jaws or ET.
Speaker 1:
1:15:11
That wouldn't have been a bad guess. Yeah, but Phil just saw Jaws.
Speaker 2:
1:15:14
Oh gotcha, that was top of mind. Fantastic cinema experience.
Speaker 1:
1:15:19
Phil, where do you want to go and how much?
Speaker 2:
1:15:21
Let's do. Video game icons for four.
Speaker 1:
1:15:27
This Nintendo game features the titular character as a princess who is often in need of rescue Donald.
Speaker 3:
1:15:35
Mario.
Speaker 1:
1:15:38
Unfortunately no, oh Phil.
Speaker 3:
1:15:42
God damn it.
Speaker 2:
1:15:43
Donkey Kong.
Speaker 1:
1:15:46
Unfortunately no. It is Zelda.
Speaker 3:
1:15:51
Yeah, I was like I pick one or the other.
Speaker 1:
1:15:54
It was a trick question because I said the titular character, princess Peach, is not in the title of that game, but Zelda is. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
1:16:04
Reading comprehension. You know Florida education man.
Speaker 1:
1:16:09
Public schools, baby, that was still okay. Compared to Donkey Kong, that was a choice, Princess Peach.
Speaker 3:
1:16:16
No, she's in Donkey Kong, she's in the original Donkey Kong Is she.
Speaker 1:
1:16:20
Yes, I don't know anything. She's the one at the top trying to get saved.
Speaker 3:
1:16:26
Yeah, that's why Mario's trying to save her.
Speaker 1:
1:16:28
That can't be true. All right, we got a fight, get him. No, no, no, no. That can't be true, all right. We got to fight. Get up. No, no, no, no no, you're bigger than me.
Speaker 2:
1:16:37
I'm kidding.
Speaker 1:
1:16:38
Get up. Phil did you. Who chose that category Me? Phil did yeah, so you still have the board. So where do you want to go?
Speaker 2:
1:16:46
Name this meme for two.
Speaker 1:
1:16:49
All right. This meme involves unexpectedly surprising people, with a clip of a man dancing from an 80s music video. It blocked me I was hitting it too fast Apparently. Now it's happening to you, phil. What is this meme called Rick Rolled?
Speaker 3:
1:17:05
Yeah, that is correct, I figured it out why you couldn't press it. Phil, If you press it too many times while it's gray, it blocks it and doesn't let you hit it. Oh, interesting, I was like, and it said blocked.
Speaker 1:
1:17:17
I was like you bitch, Not actually telling you blocked. That's crazy, you bitch. You didn't even think of the smell.
Speaker 2:
1:17:25
You bitch the smell Phil where do you want to go? 90s Kid for two.
Speaker 1:
1:17:36
Okay, you guys are going low here at low confidence. All right. What film, directed by james cameron, became the highest grossing movie of the 90s and won 11 oscars? Phil titanic you said that's so disparaging I hate that movie, dude it is correct. Titanic, yeah, except seeing it as a 90s kid you like, peak up when you know the.
Speaker 2:
1:17:53
And it is correct, it is correct.
Speaker 3:
1:17:54
Titanic yeah.
Speaker 2:
1:17:54
Except seeing it as a 90s kid. You like peek up when you know the draw me. Oh yeah, of course we had the double VHS.
Speaker 3:
1:18:11
I remember.
Speaker 2:
1:18:12
I had figured out what time I had to pause when my friends would come over for sleepovers for the boobies. None of us here have had a unique experience in our life.
Speaker 3:
1:18:16
I think everybody did that, everybody did that. We've all lived the same simulation.
Speaker 1:
1:18:21
We have a five-minute window. Here we go. All right, phil, where do you want to go?
Speaker 2:
1:18:25
Yeah, let's just do the last $200 of 2020's moments All right.
Speaker 1:
1:18:30
What has been the biggest example for the viral pairing of two very different movies released on the same day? Phil barbenheimer barbenheimer great job.
Speaker 3:
1:18:42
I, I was gonna. I almost said, I almost said, was it endgame and um avatar? I think right didn't, didn't one of the avatars come out?
Speaker 1:
1:18:52
yeah, it was like a double feature, yeah.
Speaker 3:
1:18:54
Something like that.
Speaker 1:
1:18:56
That would technically be it, but Barben Hiber just stuck there's something about it. Yeah, for sure, something about it. Phil, where do you want to go?
Speaker 2:
1:19:03
Let's see if I can get back into this right now with blockbusters and bombs for a thousand. Oh shit, I'm staying away from video game icons with Donald.
Speaker 1:
1:19:19
All right, here we go. The failure of this 2015 fantasy film adaptation taught Hollywood that even Hugh Jackman and Epic Source material can't guarantee success.
Speaker 3:
1:19:28
Shit, Donald. I hit the button.
Speaker 1:
1:19:31
You did oh my God, and I do have to ask you to answer this. It just went out of my did. Oh, my God, and I do have to ask you to answer this. It just went out of my head.
Speaker 3:
1:19:35
Oh my God, I want to say Fantasy. Fuck it, Van Helsing.
Speaker 1:
1:19:44
Unfortunately, no, I don't know if it was a bomb but yeah. No, not Van Helsing, which I do love.
Speaker 3:
1:19:49
Yeah, I love it too.
Speaker 2:
1:19:50
Oh great, I did not know that. I hit the button, phil, uh-oh.
Speaker 1:
1:19:55
There's no way you know this so. I know for a fact. We're still on. You evened it out. Still, he's about to go negative because he buzzed, I didn't. Oh no, that's unfortunate. Wait, I don't think there's a timer on on you technically, I think that's up to my discretion, hugh jackman you're never gonna get this 15 2015 2015 the level of impressed I'd be if you pulled this out of your ass fantasy film.
Speaker 3:
1:20:27
I'm trying to think yeah it was probably so bad I forgot about it.
Speaker 2:
1:20:32
What's the one? No, I forgot. I had something like the, the golden hourglass or something like that, something hourglass, I don't know. That's the only thing I'm thinking of, like that, no.
Speaker 1:
1:20:42
No, it is not the uh golden. No, the golden compass yeah no, uh, daniel craig, in that one I believe. Uh, no, unfortunately the movie is Pan.
Speaker 2:
1:20:51
Oh, what the fuck he was in there. He's in Pan, yes.
Speaker 1:
1:20:55
Yeah, look at him, he's Blackbeard in that movie. That's him.
Speaker 2:
1:20:58
He's a bald one.
Speaker 1:
1:20:59
That's him Unrecognizable. Honestly, look up clips from Pan. You'll never believe it.
Speaker 3:
1:21:05
I'd rather not. That screenshot looks terrible. It's bad though.
Speaker 1:
1:21:14
Look at them, juxtaposed on that terrible ship.
Speaker 2:
1:21:15
Yeah right.
Speaker 1:
1:21:15
Maybe we should implement AI.
Speaker 3:
1:21:17
Alright, anyway, late to the party no.
Speaker 1:
1:21:24
It was a joke. All of it was a joke. Alright, Phil, I think you control the board now. I know your confidence is shaken.
Speaker 2:
1:21:31
It is let's do 2020's moments for six, okay.
Speaker 1:
1:21:36
You control the board now. I know your confidence is shaken. It is. It is. Let's do 2020s moments for six. Okay, which streaming show rapidly became a cultural phenomenon in the 2020s, known for its slick visuals and disturbing undertones on worker exploitation, donald.
Speaker 3:
1:21:51
God damn it. It's wrong. Slick visuals and disturbing undertones for worker exploitation. God damn it. I wanted to say orange is the new black, but now that I got to the back end of it, that's not right.
Speaker 1:
1:22:03
No, no, it is not. We have taken a turn, phil, this question's for you, squid games Wow.
Speaker 3:
1:22:11
You're going to be so angry?
Speaker 1:
1:22:12
It is Severance.
Speaker 3:
1:22:14
Oh, I haven't watched it. Yeah, I haven't seen it. It's Apple TV, man, no one's got Apple.
Speaker 1:
1:22:19
TV. That question is specifically for Phil.
Speaker 2:
1:22:24
Oh no.
Speaker 1:
1:22:26
Squid Game was a decent answer If it wasn't you, phil. If it wasn't you saying it, I'm so sorry, I'm going to kill myself. I'll be right back.
Speaker 2:
1:22:36
Phil, where do you want to go To hell? I don't care.
Speaker 3:
1:22:43
It was like I was on a roll. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah Fuck.
Speaker 2:
1:22:46
I got back to 200. I felt good Pop culture, geography for four.
Speaker 1:
1:22:51
Okay, the sitcom Full House is set in this city known for Steve Hill. Okay, what is?
Speaker 2:
1:22:59
it San Francisco Okay.
Speaker 1:
1:23:02
It is San Francisco I got the block because I hit the button too.
Speaker 2:
1:23:03
I was like oh no.
Speaker 1:
1:23:06
All right, great job. San Francisco is the answer. Where would you like to go?
Speaker 2:
1:23:11
Pop culture geography for six.
Speaker 1:
1:23:13
Let's stick with it. The Cannes Film Festival, known for premieres and famous red carpets, is hosted in this country, france. It is France, all right, making a comeback.
Speaker 2:
1:23:28
Phil.
Speaker 1:
1:23:28
We're tied.
Speaker 2:
1:23:28
now let's do eight. Pop culture, geography.
Speaker 1:
1:23:31
Yeah, negative 400 apiece.
Speaker 2:
1:23:33
We are tied.
Speaker 3:
1:23:35
For 800 to go positive the Daily.
Speaker 2:
1:23:39
Doubles, two Daily Doubles.
Speaker 1:
1:23:43
The fictional nation Of Genovia in the Princess Diaries? Oh, I didn't read the question correctly. The fictional nation of Genovia, phil in the Princess Diaries, was filmed in what country?
Speaker 2:
1:24:01
I read this totally wrong.
Speaker 1:
1:24:03
So obviously half the film was filmed in the United States before Genovia. Where was that filmed?
Speaker 2:
1:24:12
Trying to think of what that could possibly be of any european country that's running through my mind right now scandinavia I tried to stop you.
Speaker 1:
1:24:24
I was like I promise you it's not something like obscure. Uh, that is not the answer well, I'm done.
Speaker 2:
1:24:30
Uh, donald, I see you, donald, I see you buzzed in.
Speaker 3:
1:24:33
I did um is scandinavia a country I don't know, maybe are we that we're we're from florida education at its navy at its finest it's a region.
Speaker 2:
1:24:47
It's not even a country, it's an area I don't know Ireland.
Speaker 1:
1:24:54
Oh, it really hurts because you were so close England. God damn it, I was going to say England.
Speaker 3:
1:24:59
It can't be that fucking stupid God damn it.
Speaker 2:
1:25:02
It was, it was. Scandinavia is like it's Denmark, norway and Sweden. It's not even one country.
Speaker 1:
1:25:08
It's not even one thing All right. Hey, we're both in negative two, I feel good it's okay. Negative 2,000. Phil, where would you like to go? You just want to finish geography.
Speaker 2:
1:25:17
Might as well. Yeah, and let me not touch the button.
Speaker 1:
1:25:23
Unless I know it Read this US city is featured in the most movies and TV shows, behind only New York and LA Donald Chicago.
Speaker 2:
1:25:33
Damn.
Speaker 3:
1:25:35
Holy shit. Well, good. Thing.
Speaker 2:
1:25:37
I was going to guess Dallas, so thank God I didn't go.
Speaker 1:
1:25:39
So Chicago, and then the next one was Atlanta. So, yeah, yeah, that is it, and it's a huge margin. It's like California is well above New York and New York is well above Chicago, and then Chicago and the rest are very close to each other.
Speaker 2:
1:25:55
Where's Jacksonville on the list?
Speaker 1:
1:25:57
Non-existent, non-existent. Donald, you own the board. Where do you want to go?
Speaker 3:
1:26:05
20s moments for eight.
Speaker 1:
1:26:07
Okay, let's do it. This 1980s song received a revival after being featured in Stranger Things season 4 fuck, okay, it's two.
Speaker 3:
1:26:19
There's two possible things I'm gonna say running up that hill it is running up that hill bro it also. There also was a Metallica it's true, that is true. Yeah, that's why I was like I hit it and I was good, I was like, oh shit, okay.
Speaker 1:
1:26:37
No, no, you did good, you did good. Okay, donald in the lead with negative 200.
Speaker 2:
1:26:43
There's really no other way to say it.
Speaker 1:
1:26:48
I'm watching two horses with broken legs run a race. Stop, oh shit. Donald, where do you want to go? Let's finish out 20s. Let's do the 1,000. Let's see what happens For 1,000,. This studio just made box office history as the first to ever have seven consecutive films open above $40 million. This literally just happened, I believe, in the last 30 days, donald.
Speaker 3:
1:27:12
A24?.
Speaker 2:
1:27:17
Unfortunately, no, not A24. A24, they've had some misses lately, otherwise that was going to be, my guess too. I'm not going to risk going negative 3 000.
Speaker 1:
1:27:26
Uh, surprisingly, maybe it's warner bros oh, that is very surprising.
Speaker 3:
1:27:32
Yes, what was the movie?
Speaker 1:
1:27:35
They beat the record with Conjuring the Last Rites, which is also like the highest grossing horror film, like this year, and why, yeah? And in general there's like a lot of records that I love how they were.
Speaker 2:
1:27:49
just like it's a great way to finish up the series. And then, immediately news came out, they're like we're doing prequels.
Speaker 1:
1:27:54
Yeah, no, I mean inevitable, Inevitable. Donald, although you lost points, you do still control the board. Where would you like to go?
Speaker 2:
1:28:02
We're not going to have any money to do Final Jeopardy.
Speaker 1:
1:28:05
I know we still have a lot left.
Speaker 3:
1:28:09
Let's do blockbusters and bombs for four.
Speaker 1:
1:28:13
For four. This 2018 superhero sequel crossed $2 billion globally, becoming one of the biggest blockbusters ever. Phil Endgame no, not Endgame. Sequel.
Speaker 3:
1:28:32
Fuck.
Speaker 1:
1:28:34
What no, no, no sequel. Fuck what, no, no, it is it actually. It is an Avengers sequel, but it is not endgame.
Speaker 3:
1:28:42
Ultron ain't it, it is Infinity.
Speaker 2:
1:28:43
War, infinity War is are you saying, like all the Avengers movies are one?
Speaker 1:
1:28:48
one of sequels?
Speaker 2:
1:28:49
yes, yeah, that's dumb that is unfortunate this one so says you, so says you here.
Speaker 1:
1:29:01
I'll lessen it by two. I'll lessen it by oh whoops, I made it worse. All right, I'll listen to my two. There we go. All right, donald, I believe that was you. Still, if you want to control the board, where do you want to go?
Speaker 3:
1:29:16
Name this meme 600.
Speaker 1:
1:29:18
Okay.
Speaker 3:
1:29:18
We're on a fucking roll, man.
Speaker 1:
1:29:20
This character has had several memes made of him, from his evil alter ego to sipping tea Phil.
Speaker 2:
1:29:29
This character.
Speaker 1:
1:29:32
Yep, so this character specifically has been memed a lot oh uh, kermit it is.
Speaker 2:
1:29:38
I was like I don't know the name of um, I don't know robert or not, leonardo dicaprio's character's name from django that's crazy.
Speaker 1:
1:29:47
Uh, kermit the frog, great job, great job. Where do you want to go?
Speaker 2:
1:29:51
Blockbusters and bombs for six. Okay.
Speaker 1:
1:29:56
This video game live action adaptation was a box office disappointment in 2010, despite being released by Walt Disney Studios. Motion Pictures and having a famous actor's involvement as the lead Came out in 2010. Disney Video game live action adaptation, also released by Disney, which I did not know. I did not know this.
Speaker 3:
1:30:23
Released by Disney, but not produced by Disney.
Speaker 1:
1:30:27
No, not produced. I believe Jerry Bruckheimer produced it. I don't know what umbrella that was under production fuck yeah, okay, I actually enjoyed this movie. This was led by Jake Gyllenhaal into Persia, the sands of time yeah, actually not a bad movie, not great. Oh yeah, yeah, actually not a bad movie, not great, not bad. But forgettable.
Speaker 3:
1:30:57
Yeah, definitely forgettable, clearly.
Speaker 1:
1:31:00
Clearly All right. I believe, Donald, you're controlling the board.
Speaker 2:
1:31:04
Or Phil. That was you, Phil. Let's finish up Blockbusters and Pops.
Speaker 1:
1:31:07
Okay For 800. The term Blockbuster originated during?
Speaker 2:
1:31:15
what major conflict? What Desert Storm.
Speaker 1:
1:31:18
A little history question for you.
Speaker 3:
1:31:22
Fuck it.
Speaker 1:
1:31:23
Okay.
Speaker 3:
1:31:24
Donald, the fucking. The tear down that wall. The fucking. I think Nixon was president. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1:
1:31:35
God damn it. The Berlin Wall. No, not the Berlin Wall.
Speaker 2:
1:31:40
I did not mean to. Okay, phil, please, yeah, yeah, yeah, just any guess.
Speaker 3:
1:31:57
Hey, I got one, you could let, he could get one. Like you want to remember, I I fucked up the beginning.
Speaker 1:
1:32:00
Okay, a pass okay, yeah, uh, it was world war ii, world war ii, yeah yeah, apparently blockbuster meant is what they described in for the british described bombs dropping and then uh, yeah, yeah, they then yeah, they named it. So I wasn't far off when I said Vietnam, so no, I mean he was probably closer, I think, with the Berlin Wall. No, I don't know.
Speaker 3:
1:32:22
I thought you know I was like breaking. You know I don't know stupid parallels that's okay, well listen, mr.
Speaker 2:
1:32:27
Gorbachev. Tear down this wall. Reagan smash, reagan sleepy, we have some time to recover here, watch off. Tear down this wall.
Speaker 1:
1:32:34
Reagan smash. That's exactly it, reagan sleepy. We have some time to recover here. Phil, where do you want to go?
Speaker 2:
1:32:41
90s kid for six.
Speaker 1:
1:32:42
Okay, in Batman Beyond, what is the name of the young man who becomes the new Batman under an elderly Bruce Wayne?
Speaker 2:
1:32:50
I don't know his name, I'll even take first names at this point Donald. Terry McGinnis. It is Terry McGinnis. Good job. I wouldn't have gotten that, oh God, alright.
Speaker 1:
1:33:08
Donald, where do you want to go?
Speaker 3:
1:33:10
Let's close out. 90s for 8. Okay, 90s for eight.
Speaker 1:
1:33:13
Okay, 90s for eight. There were a popular fashion fad among kids in the 90s that may have looked cool but sometimes really hurt. I should say there was a popular fashion fad Donald Snap bands.
Speaker 3:
1:33:38
I will take that I have slap bracelets okay, I was listed here.
Speaker 1:
1:33:41
Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, those are classics. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:
1:33:43
I remember I just thought that was like early 2000, early 2000 I was like I was thinking, I almost said the skip it or or. But I was like you're gonna wear a skip it to well? Yeah, that's what I said I was like that's not fashion.
Speaker 3:
1:33:53
You're going to wear a. Skip it to skip it. Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, well, because you know you kind of wear it, but I was like that's not fashion.
Speaker 1:
1:33:58
Well, listen, we're moving in the right direction. Donald, when do you want to go next?
Speaker 3:
1:34:04
Do video game? Icons for six.
Speaker 1:
1:34:06
Oh boy, for our audio only listeners. A little update on the score we got negative 600.
Speaker 2:
1:34:16
Donald the lead with Phil. Negative 16. 100.
Speaker 1:
1:34:17
On how things are going. Yeah, but we're okay. We got five more options on the board 600 video game icons. The protagonist of God of War, kratos, first appeared on which platform? Donald, ps2. That is correct On the PS2, I don't want to hit the button too fast. Donald, you are now technically In the positive with zero dollars. Where would you like to go next?
Speaker 3:
1:34:44
Let's just keep. Let's do icons for 800.
Speaker 1:
1:34:47
Okay. Icons for 800. The lone wanderer Refers to a character that appears. In what video game franchise? We both put our phones down at the same time.
Speaker 3:
1:35:01
I'm gonna know it, I know, I'm gonna know it. The Lone.
Speaker 1:
1:35:06
Wanderer. He's alone, he's wandering. What video game.
Speaker 3:
1:35:12
There, he is what video game. He is what video game all right.
Speaker 1:
1:35:17
Uh, he's gonna be alone with no answer.
Speaker 3:
1:35:21
Uh, it is fallout oh yeah, I didn't do fallout.
Speaker 1:
1:35:24
I wasn't a fallout guy all right, uh, donald, where you want to, let's do icons for a thousand. Okay, icons for a thousand. Which side-scrolling platformer by Ubisoft debuted in 1995 and tasked players with helping the game's hero navigate levels like the Dream Forest and defeat characters like Mr Dark Ubisoft, a game you might not think of at first glance.
Speaker 3:
1:35:54
Definitely not thinking of it.
Speaker 1:
1:35:56
Okay, dream Forest, all right Time is up Stumpin'. The answer is Rayman.
Speaker 2:
1:36:06
Oh, it wasn't a Rayman kid either man, I was trying to think of any side-scrolling Ubisoft game, and it definitely wasn't.
Speaker 3:
1:36:12
Yeah, I thought of Prince of Persia and I was like that's not right man. I was trying to think of any side-scrolling Ubisoft game and I definitely wasn't. Yeah, I'm like, I thought of Prince of Persia and I was like that's not right though.
Speaker 1:
1:36:17
Yeah, no, that's okay. Well, listen now, phil. This is your chance to take over if you get the next two right. Donald, you want to do 800 and then 1,000?.
Speaker 3:
1:36:27
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1:
1:36:28
Okay, name this meme for 800. This meme first rose to popularity in 2011 after Tumblr posted a photo from a Japanese animated show of an android mistaking a butterfly for a pigeon, donald.
Speaker 3:
1:36:45
So yeah, I'm confused by the question I mean how should I answer?
Speaker 1:
1:36:49
this. It's like, is this a?
Speaker 3:
1:36:50
bird.
Speaker 1:
1:36:52
Yeah, it's a phrase that's used in the meme.
Speaker 3:
1:36:55
Or what a strange bird. Or what a weird bird, or.
Speaker 1:
1:37:01
Not quite, yeah, but I'm not going to deduct you points for that.
Speaker 3:
1:37:06
Okay.
Speaker 1:
1:37:07
I'm not going to deduct you points for that. Okay, phil.
Speaker 2:
1:37:13
Yeah, because that's what I was was. Do we need to know the name of the show it's from, because I have no idea no, you would just like the phrase that's used on the meme is this a thing? Okay, is this correct? Is this?
Speaker 1:
1:37:29
uh, correct, good, all right, phil, you can take over by 200. Come down to this.
Speaker 2:
1:37:38
With this win, Donald zero. My negative 800. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1:
1:37:45
Name this meme for 1,000. This meme doesn't always work, but when it does, it's as good as any Dos Equis beer.
Speaker 2:
1:37:54
No, phil Phil.
Speaker 1:
1:38:04
Yeah, it's like I don't I don't always drink.
Speaker 2:
1:38:08
Phil, don't just sit there in silence.
Speaker 1:
1:38:10
You gotta answer.
Speaker 2:
1:38:10
It doesn't always work. I'm like trying to think of the actual way it's worded as a Dos Equis beer. I don't always blank, but when I do.
Speaker 1:
1:38:23
So this one. You need to explain what the meme is, Any description of what this meme is.
Speaker 2:
1:38:28
So like I don't always.
Speaker 1:
1:38:30
Not the phrase. Oh, not the phrase. What is the meme of the Dos?
Speaker 2:
1:38:35
Equis guy.
Speaker 1:
1:38:37
I will take that.
Speaker 2:
1:38:38
Okay, do you want to Okay?
Speaker 1:
1:38:39
He technically does have a name though. So, donald, if you know the name, I'll give you the points instead. Otherwise, I will give Phil those points.
Speaker 3:
1:38:46
I'm so sorry, Phil. He's the most interesting man in the world.
Speaker 1:
1:38:55
Oh, the most interesting man in the world. Oh, wow, I am going to give that to the world's most interesting man. So, phil, what I will do because we need to have a game is I'm going to let you have $1,000 as well, and Donald's going to be the leave, with $1,000 to $200 for final factile time, and you guys will need to enter in your wagers. I would recommend Phil wagering it all yeah, I'm gonna go all in.
Speaker 1:
1:39:19
Uh, donald, you'll make your selection on how much you want to wager, and once you've done that, we will then reveal the final question. Okay, let's see how it goes with you guys entering it manually. Let's play now. San diego. Comic-con international, which is considered in the industry to be the flagship event of comic-cons, was founded in what decade?
Speaker 3:
1:39:45
he's you're gonna get. You're getting it. I know you're getting it, maybe. Okay, all right, let's see what happened. Phil, uh, you said the 1990s.
Speaker 1:
1:39:51
I don't know, maybe. Okay, all right, let's see what happened. Phil, you said the 1990s.
Speaker 3:
1:39:59
Unfortunately. No, oh, decades, son of a bitch. Well, I wrote in that year. You said 2006 or in the 2000s?
Speaker 1:
1:40:07
Unfortunately also no, this was actually founded in the 1970s wow, really you may not have known. Yeah, founded in 1970, apparently so little fact of the day, but listen as rough as that was. There was a winner? No, there wasn't, no there wasn't.
Speaker 3:
1:40:32
I said fuck it all in baby, all in baby, all in I didn't see your wager.
Speaker 1:
1:40:36
I just assumed you would have only wagered like 100. Nah nah.
Speaker 3:
1:40:40
Mommy, don't raise no bitch. Yeah, mommy don't raise no bitch Come on, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
1:40:45
Well, anyway, guys, this was the last time we're playing Jeopardy, so no, that was a great time.
Speaker 2:
1:40:52
No, that was a great time.
Speaker 1:
1:40:53
No, that was a great time. No, that won't be the end of jeopardy, but uh, I'm gonna have to. I might have to go back to the drawing board they were good questions, it was just like shit yeah, no, there were, there were a couple in there that I felt good about. And when you guys started struggling on those I was like uh-oh, I was like we might be in trouble. But yeah, that was our factile Jeopardy game.
Speaker 2:
1:41:23
All right, well, yep, there it was. There it was Well, lots of fun hanging out with you here, donald. We hope to see you very, very soon. Lots of fun hanging out with you here, donald. We hope to see you very, very soon. And you know we were certainly going to keep up with all of your projects. So please, before we get out of here for the evening, let our audience know where they can find any of your work, where they can keep up with you, and also, if you do have any appearances coming up, whether it be towards the end of the year or the beginning next year, whatever it is you want to share, please take this time to do so now it is you want to share, please take this time to do so now.
Speaker 3:
1:41:55
Sure, so you know you can follow me on social media. Uh, my, my ex is at donald guzzi, my, uh, my instagram is at action underscore audio. As for any any recent projects coming out again, stormlight, archive, wind and truth from graphic audio, you can find it on graphic audionet. Um, part one and two are out currently. Part 3 comes out on the 15th, so it will be out as of once this episode releases, and Part 5 comes out November 21st, and then Part 5, I imagine, will be next year. It is the fifth book in the series, so you might have a lot to get through if you haven't read Stormlight before, but I highly recommend graphic audio stuff. It's really, really cool.
Speaker 3:
1:42:34
And as for con appearances, I am going to be doing a Sheikah Con in Lincoln City, oregon, at the beginning of next year. As for the actual date, I should probably have that on hand, huh, so it is January 10th and 11th in Lincoln City, oregon, so I will be there, actually with Josh it's Josh, abby, trina, josh, me and Shakira Done Also, we're all going to be there, so they've got a good chunk of the Nocaton cast coming in. I don't know who else, but yeah, it should be a good time.
Speaker 2:
1:43:16
Super exciting, donald. Thank you so much for taking the time. We'd love to have you back on for a different episode If you enjoyed your visit here with us. Who knows, eric, maybe there is a extra large, my Dear Friend, no Catan, what Did I Miss in Our Future, which would be certainly a whole lot of fun. So, uh, yeah, we thank you for that, and everything you need to know to follow donald will be in the link or will be in the show notes of this episode along where to follow the wait for it podcast.
Speaker 2:
1:43:44
So you can follow us, of course, on social media, over on tiktok instagram, join our growing discord community, watch us on twitch, where we are streaming a ton. Of course, if you're watching on YouTube, make sure you like, share, subscribe. You know the drill and if you want to support the show, you can head on over to the podcast listener of your choice, podcast app of your choice and leave us a five star review. It's one of the best ways you can support us and, of course, follow us all individually me, eric, donald. All of that is so very helpful to all of our personal creative journeys as well, but maybe you want these episodes a little bit early. Maybe you want to partake in having a hand in the content that we put out. Eric will let you know how you can do all of that before wrapping us up.
Speaker 1:
1:44:27
Yeah. So of course, with Patreon, that is a platform you may know of already and we are on it. We're patrons of the show. Right now, briar T3, kato, vintage, macaroni, corey from the World's my Burrito, nick Casbarro, the author of the Vidularium series, and Botter from the Shortbox podcast, are supporting us monthly on that platform in exchange for behind the scenes and early access to episodes like this one. The month of October is Patreon month, where we've had a hand, via polls and recommendations, on what our episode topics are going to be.
Speaker 1:
1:44:58
So if you want to be part of that growing community, make sure to join us over on Patreon, but if you can't do that, you're not in a position to Everything that you do. That just takes some time out of your day helps out so much and we truly appreciate you doing even that. But with all that said, this is the end of our episode here on the Wait For it podcast. My name is Mr Eric Almighty, that is my co-host, phil the Filipino and our guest, donald. So again, thank you so much for joining us. Just remember, we release new episodes every Wednesday for the podcast and all you got to do is wait for it.
Speaker 2:
1:45:39
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