Speaker 1:
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Welcome to your go-to source for entertainment. Wait for it.
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Gaming. Wait for it Anime PLUS ULTRA.
Speaker 1:
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Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino.
Speaker 3:
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Yeah, they've got you covered, and all you gotta do is wait for it. This is the Wait For it Podcast. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast. I'm your co-host, phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino.
Speaker 1:
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And I'm your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and we are back with another episode of Creator Spotlight, and this time we decided to go into the world of voice acting and beyond with our next guest, very excited to continue our conversation when we met together at InfinityCon and Phil, this is one that the people are not going to want to miss.
Speaker 3:
1:00
Yeah, super excited when we met our guest back at InfinityCon in Gainesville, which was such a great time to be a part of that, and you know, we just immediately connected. And that's kind of how we started approaching this series is we run into people with similar interests and we just kind of go from there and luckily, after some planning, we were able to make this episode happen. So let's bring in our guest for this evening, Jessica Cavanaugh. Thank you so much for being here. I know you've been super busy over the last few months and I'm very glad we are. We were able to make this happen. So how are you doing tonight? And please introduce yourself to our audience.
Speaker 2:
1:39
Well, hello. Thank you so much for having me, you guys, and, yes, thank you for your patience as I have gotten my life together in the last couple of months. Yeah, it was great meeting you guys at InfinityCon. I have moved from one state to another since then, so a lot has happened changed jobs and things like that but things are good. Super happy to be here.
Speaker 3:
2:06
Yeah, I can't wait to get into our conversation here tonight as well as have a little fun, you know discuss what you have been up to and kind of your background and how all of that got started. So cannot wait to dive into you know all of that here tonight. Before we get started, I want to remind everybody if you're a first time listener, welcome. And for all you returning listeners, if you need a little bit of a reminder of where to find all the rest of our content as well as where you can find Jessica, make sure you stick around to the very end of the episode. We will go over all of that, but as we get this episode kicked off, jessica, please tell everybody what they may know you from, as well as what you're currently working on now.
Speaker 2:
2:46
Okay, so you may know me from my Hero Academia. I play Inko Midoriya, Deku's mom. You may also know me as Aaron's mom in Attack on Titan You're seeing a trend here. Well. Also you may know me as Aquarius from Fairy Tale Not a mom, but then kind of a mom, I don't know, she's just and Curly Dedon from One Piece. Those are kind of the main ones that get brought up.
Speaker 3:
3:22
Yeah, as you can see in my co-hosthost office, there he is a little bit of a my hair. I see my boy, I see my boy, where is? It, it's yeah. I have Justin Briner back there somewhere and I'll find a co-autograph by by our buddy Justin.
Speaker 2:
3:40
So, of course, of course, because there are 10, that I'm going get on my soapbox, I'm gonna get on the soapbox, here we go where is my pop? Where is my damn pop?
Speaker 1:
3:53
sorry, am I allowed to say damn yes, yes, no, you're fine, I've got a spot up there. He's right up there as well.
Speaker 2:
4:02
Poor inco has been crying up to the ceiling for years and years. She deserves a freaking pop. I don't understand.
Speaker 1:
4:09
I will never understand, and you know it's very valid too, because I've told Phil this I had a much bigger collection of my hero pops than this but I had to stop once they started introducing like Class 1B and I was like, okay, well, now we've lost sense of the plot. So I mean, if that can happen, I don't understand why mama midoriya is not involved, like literally, you know, there's approximately 2817 dekus.
Speaker 2:
4:34
Love you deku, love you justin. Please, please, live well, live long and prosper. But my god, can mom please get one, just one. So I mean, I, I get asked to sign justin's, I get asked to sign deku pops, like the one where the one where baby deku's in the pajamas yeah, that's a good one, yeah, yeah I get asked to sign that one all the time and I'm just like, yeah, I get asked to sign that one all the time and I'm just like she's in that scene.
Speaker 2:
5:06
Can she please have her own pop from that scene?
Speaker 3:
5:09
They need to make the ones they have like those landscape ones. They could easily put her in one of those.
Speaker 1:
5:16
That'd be such a good gift, like where he's pointing at the TV. That'd be a perfect one.
Speaker 2:
5:20
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:
5:21
Or holding him while he's crying.
Speaker 3:
5:23
Yeah, we're going to send this to Funko and we're going to we're going to make it happen. They're not going to give us any credit, but we'll send it, we'll send it, we'll do it.
Speaker 2:
5:31
I really, I have gone, I have gone on, I've gone on these quests, like Funko is sick of me Cause that I was just like so proud of. I was like this is it? This is going to be a thing that's going to convince them. I went on YouTube and literally, like you know, searched myself which is just the cringiest thing to admit ever but there it was, and I found this Inco Midoriya, like a tribute to Inco Midoriya, and it has like 8 million views and it's like this mashup of all of these. And it's like this mashup of all of these and it's English you know, it's the English dub and it's just eight million. I was like that's it, like I sent it to Funko and was like eight million People know her. They like her.
Speaker 2:
6:16
The people want it the people give the people what they want and everyone's like best mom. Like all the comments, everything was like they love her.
Speaker 3:
6:32
Can she please? Just no, they didn't even respond. I just, I don't know.
Speaker 2:
6:34
Funko hates me, has anybody ever been cruel and made you sign some sort of titan funko? No, okay, good, just making sure, jeez, can you imagine? Yes, so that's why I actually can too.
Speaker 3:
6:43
I, I can too so at least we've, at least we have avoided that.
Speaker 2:
6:48
But I would totally do it and I would bitch the entire time and make someone record it and like put it online and tag funko like I. Just it's there you go. Because yeah, like why doesn't carla have one? Come on like she, why doesn't carla have one? Why doesn't inco madoria have one? Why doesn't um come on aquarius, who doesn't want a mermaid funko pop? I, I do. I want that funko pop. It's tough.
Speaker 3:
7:18
It's lots of questions, lots of questions. To start on the episode.
Speaker 2:
7:22
I love that we're beginning this interview with me just bitching. Hey guys, my name is Jessica Cavanaugh. Why don't I have a pop?
Speaker 1:
7:30
Listen to me talk about why Anyway. It's so valid though it's so valid though.
Speaker 3:
7:35
It 100% is.
Speaker 2:
7:36
Thank you. I appreciate you guys for humoring me.
Speaker 1:
7:41
But, phil, I know that we are excited to ask our guest about a lot of questions here and, jessica, I'm going to kind of kick things off with our first one. Obviously, being a part of such a big series in any way, shape or form is always awesome. But I'm curious for you. You named off a couple pretty big franchises, from my hero to uh attack Titan to One Piece, and that only kind of scratches the services of some of the properties that you have gotten involved in. I'm very curious, like, as we talk about some of your journey into this, was anime like a thing for you that you expressed interest in when you were younger? Was it something you stumbled on from your craft? A lot of times when we talk to voice actors, it always goes back to theater in one way or another. I'm just very curious what your path kind of has looked like and what that path to anime and voice acting in general kind of looked for you from the beginning to now.
Speaker 2:
8:42
Yeah, I'm very typical. I grew up doing theater total theater nerd. I've been living my best life since Wicked came out. Like you know, I'm just dork dork dork dork and was working professionally in Dallas on stage. I was doing a show. I was doing a show and the guy that I was dating a guy in the show and he happened to be directing a show at Funimation and he needed to replace an actor real quick and he needed someone who could do a British dialect and could do it quickly and could cold read. And we had worked together before and we were dating and he was like hey, listen, listen, can you come in and do this? And so I came in and did like a paid audition and got it and had never seen an anime in my life, didn't even know what we were talking about. Like and I hate saying this because now that I'm in this world, I know that there are people that are just like what? Like?
Speaker 1:
9:48
why does someone like that get to?
Speaker 2:
9:49
why and I feel for them, I really do Because I legit did not know what the crap I was there to do. Like I was just like what, and then, and the show that I ended up getting cast in was Black Butler, which was like no small show either, but I had no idea idea, like how cool that was, or so it took me some time to really understand, like, oh, like this is, this is a really cool. Like it took me time to understand that it was a skill, a whole separate skill than acting on stage. I mean, obviously I knew that, but like I don't like listening to the first few things that I did at Funimation because, wow, they're not good, like they are not very good, because I didn't quite get it yet. Like just that it's a whole different skill set being in a booth than being on stage and it just there's a learning curve there, I think.
Speaker 1:
10:43
Now that that makes a lot of sense. Phil will tell you like the beginning episodes of this podcast scrub from the Internet. Cannot find them. First year, maybe year and a half, completely wiped off the face of the earth, and for good reason, Phil, yeah.
Speaker 3:
10:58
Yeah, see, it's not like you can't go into Crunchyroll and be like, hey, could you delete that episode for me please? Right, we have the ability to be like, nope, we don't want that out there anymore. So you know, you've obviously you just mentioned, you know you were in the theater realm and a lot of questions that pop up at conventions that we work. A lot of people are asking you know, how do I get into voice acting? And it seems like the answer is always start with an acting class. So is that always what you recommend? And kind of where do you think people should go from there once they at least get the basics down as far as acting itself?
Speaker 2:
11:47
acting and who you are as an actor, then I think it's time to take an actual, like voice acting class with someone, like with someone who has the credentials, not someone who's like, done a couple commercials and that's it, but like someone who knows what they're talking about and really just go sit under them and take their class, learn everything about this industry, because, again, it's so specific And's it's not. You know, this industry is not that industry. So, yeah, I, I mean I would encourage people to find someone, even online. You know that you can take classes from and really just ask a bazillion questions and learn from and learn how to, where to find these auditions and how to submit and what you need to set up at home and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3:
12:26
But, yeah, before you do any of those things, you gotta, you gotta be an actor yeah, and I am actually at the time, I think, when we, when we met back at infinity con, I had not I either not started yet or was in the very early stages where I I've started taking acting classes to then transition into looking into voice acting.
Speaker 3:
12:45
So I took a couple of classes last year which were great. I took a beginners and then an intermediate class and then, you know, kind of like an introduction to voiceover class as well, and I kind of wanted to ask you selfishly, wanted to ask you this question because I asked another person who does a lot of voiceover their opinion on this and what the um? The instructor in the acting class that I took shout out to rebecca. She's been on from creative veins. They were teaching the meisner technique and from what I from from the some of the feedback that I've gotten, is meisner is not necessarily the best technique to learn in terms of voice acting. I just kind of wanted to get your opinion on that and maybe if there was something else that you would recommend that I would look into, that would maybe help a little more.
Speaker 2:
13:28
Oh man, that's so. That's such a great question, because, yeah, because, meisner, you are focusing on reacting to what's in front of you, and if you're in a booth by yourself, what are you exactly? Yeah, however, I like that makes complete sense. However, I'm Meisner trained. So you said Meisner, I'm like, oh, I got that book around here somewhere.
Speaker 2:
13:51
But yeah, it is. It is the technique that I choose to use when I'm acting on stage and I mainly ended up following choosing that technique for stage because it was the closest thing to what I was already doing and it kind of just put it was. I was able to just kind of put a name to it and put a method to the madness. So for booth work, yes, yes, it's about reacting, but Stanford acting. But stanford miser god, here I go. Stanford miser um said that acting was oh see, now I'm gonna get it messed up. I'm gonna mess up this beautiful quote, this beautiful famous quote, but basically about something, something, and make believe oh no, oh no, no, now I have to google it. No, like this, it's unacceptable that I can't quote that now.
Speaker 3:
14:45
Hold on, sanford, I feel like a failure as an acting student that I can't remember exactly how to quote this anymore. I guarantee if we just asked you about this on the street, you'd be able to recite it from beginning to end. But because we're in this session right now, that's why it's escaped your mind.
Speaker 2:
15:09
Here it is. No, that is exactly true, because I mean, I taught acting classes and said this all the time, so I don't know, um, it's nerves. Acting is the ability to behave absolutely truthfully under imaginary circumstances. That's it right, that's what acting is, and and so really, meisner depends a lot on the imagination. So I think as a voice actor, you could still use that in the booth and I think that's what I've done is just go full in on the imagination and you still have to do your preparation and stuff. If you know the scene that you're about to go record, you can still do the Meisner prep work to get yourself in the right frame of mind beforehand. So you can still do all that pre stuff. And then I don't know you're reacting to. Yeah, you have to kind of use your imagination as far as what you're reacting to, the actual voice you're reacting to, unless that person is already recorded.
Speaker 3:
16:05
I was going far as what you're reacting to, the actual voice you're reacting to, unless that person is already recorded, I was gonna say yeah, then you can, then you can use that, so right but I don't know.
Speaker 2:
16:11
I I feel like they're. It's still worth. I wouldn't throw that, throw that baby out with the bath water. Quite yet I feel like they're meisner. You can manipulate it to a degree to use for your purposes. And now we've lost all but like one listener to this podcast, which was me. So you know that I've talked about Sanford Meisner for approximately 8,000 hours, so no, no, definitely not.
Speaker 3:
16:35
And yeah, no, thank you for for that. I definitely plan on going back to that studio. We were very lucky to have a studio like creative veins here, where there is a very tight knit community when it comes to film and filmmaking and acting and that. So, yeah, I definitely want to return to that and, like I said, I do have the book, so I do plan on reading through that as well. So, yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's good time.
Speaker 1:
16:56
Yeah, and kind of following up on it, like as far as everything that you have learned over your career and everything you're continuing to learn in that space. I'm very curious what you think about one of the first voice actors we had on was Matthew Elkins and he plays Zontetsu in Blue Lock and it was a great conversation. But we actually jumped into a conversation that I feel you might be able to give some perspective on, because he gave us the feeling and discussed openly. Sometimes he kind of gets typecast into certain roles and obviously there are pros and there are cons to that and obviously we talked about a lot of the motherly figures that you do voice. I'm very curious what your thoughts are about some of that typecasting that goes on in the business obviously the benefits, but also the drawbacks, and I'll follow that up with. Is there anything that you really want to sink your teeth in that you haven't to kind of add to that dialogue? So very curious what your stance is and what you're still looking to explore in your career.
Speaker 2:
18:04
Liz, this is a great question. So it's, it's interesting. I've always been a little confused by it because I don't consider myself a very motherly type of person. I am a mom. I am a mom, he's 25. But even looking back this is only hindsight could have told me all this. But like looking back, even in high school, I grew up doing theater. I was always the freaking mom or the aunt or whatever. So there's like something about my vibe. That's just like Something about my vibe. That's just like you're warm, you're comforted by it, and so I have learned to appreciate this over the years.
Speaker 2:
18:53
It was interesting because when I first left high school and was a young woman, I was finally getting cast as an ingenue Because I wasn't being compared to all the other girls my age for all the roles of all of the ages. I was finally able to just audition for roles that were my age and not play the 50-year-old grandmother because there were only 18-year-olds to play them. So suddenly I found myself playing ingenues and I was really grateful for having to play character roles all those years, because I think it made my, when I was playing, ended up playing leads and being the central character. I don't know, it was never enough for me to just like play the straight man or whatever you know, or like. That's a person, that's a whole person. And I think that playing those kind of roles that I was typecast in ended up helping me create more depth for the roles I play later on. But it was interesting because pretty quickly in the voice acting world I landed in the exact same thing that I did when I first started theater, when I was a kid.
Speaker 2:
19:57
And again, I don't hear it, I don't listen to my voice on recording and be like, what a motherly sound, what a man, wow, I do not hear it, I don't but like. But I listened to the work in the shows that I'm recording and I'm like well, that works, you know, like, I get that, that works. So I don't really get the typecasting so much, but then I hear the product and I understand the why, but I don't, I don't know, I am not, I'm not mad at it, and maybe it's because I am a mom and I'm in my 40s and I'm you know, I'm not like in my 20s voicing these moms. It feels correct that I'm doing these roles now. That I'm doing these roles now, I think that if I had started voice acting when I was 22 and was playing these same roles from that age or something.
Speaker 2:
20:51
I'd be like annoyed and want to play all the cute girls. But I, I love, I like playing characters that are a little bit different, that are maybe not in the mainstream, and I like playing characters you know, so it's fun, yeah yeah and and I know we didn't, I don't feel I can, can't speak for you, but I don't think we got motherly vibe.
Speaker 1:
21:13
But what we did get when we met you, because we were going to talk to you for like two minutes we're very big on like checking out vibes and just introducing ourselves and like we sat at your table for long enough to invite you on the podcast.
Speaker 2:
21:25
Yeah, y'all were there for a while.
Speaker 1:
21:26
It was fun and you know, one of the things we kind of felt was just that trusting vibe, that just naturalness, and I think those are maybe some qualities in those characters that you play, that I'm sure, as you're getting that work, people are keeping you in mind because they can trust you to play those and that's what Matthew had shared in his experience. But, phil, that was kind of my takeaway as well to that whole experience meeting Jessica for the first time.
Speaker 3:
21:54
Yeah, just very welcoming.
Speaker 3:
21:55
And I think that is something that when you're doing conventions, so because we are at so many, right, eric, we can gauge who is a little bit newer to it and maybe who's been on the scene a little bit longer. You're talking about a lot of people, a lot of kids, a lot of younger kids that are not used to approaching people, and you're talking about some, like a show or a character that they like, absolutely love, and they this is like the first time they maybe build up the courage to go and talk to somebody on their own. You know, and that's why I think the convention space is so special, um, and it's really I always compare it to not only for the convention goers but for us, right, eric, like there are some, there are people that we only get to see a convention, so it's like a mini high school reunion, but like people you want to see, not like high school friends, but you get to do that three or four times a year if you're lucky. So I I. That's why I always love the the convention space.
Speaker 3:
22:51
But staying on the topic of characters, I want to ask, whether it be in voice acting or on stage, what type of characters are you most drawn to and also what kind of character that you haven't gotten to play yet. What type of character would you do you want to try and take on?
Speaker 2:
23:07
I guess the simplest answer there is, like I have played a lot of really vulnerable characters Leading up to now. I've done a lot of crying, I've done a lot of just really sad, deep stuff on stage and I am more interested in playing fighters than I am in playing victims. I guess that's what it is, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:
23:42
I think it's like at this point in my life, as as a woman too, you know where it's like. Yes, there are brutal stories about women who you know and we've got to tell these stories. And I'm all about telling these stories, but I want to play someone who keeps fighting and whose entire purpose in telling the story is not to be the victim. That's a lot. Back in the day, I played Laura in the Glass Menagerie, and she's just a classic play and she's just a character that is just made to feel so small by everyone on stage. And as an actress, as a female actor, we have to fight that all the time this tendency to try to make ourselves smaller, the instinct to make ourselves smaller and more palatable and more whatever, and I think that it's that, and everything in me in my 40s is just rebelling against everything to do with that, and so I think I just kind of have no more, no more interest in crying in the corner on stage.
Speaker 2:
24:52
You know, I also. I think that has to do with the fact that I played the central character in a play about my own life. That was about a very dark time in my life that led me to have to be me at my weakest point every night on stage over and over and over again, and I think that can just start to, that can get old and you realize you need to just play something different. Your body needs to feel something different than that.
Speaker 3:
25:24
I think I learned a lot about the body-mind connection to playing that role, just realizing we can't go on stage and play trauma every night and be 100% okay over time as somebody, as I mentioned, who is raising a daughter who is about to be an adult and, as we touched on before we even got started in the pre-show, we're entering a very vulnerable time for everybody, and having the importance of those type of fictional characters and also characters that are represented in what happened in your own life, like you mentioned, are so important, and I think that's great and it is nice, right, eric, that we are seeing this turn into, uh, into characters, that into female, you know, characters that are stronger, that are good representations and and also good role models as well.
Speaker 1:
26:19
It's it's just so important yeah, and I mean obviously there's so many more things for a strong character, let alone a strong female character, than being powerful, right, having superpowers, like there's so many other ways to express that. Jessica, I'm very curious, kind of adding on another dimension but also tying it into fandoms. I know that there are a lot of personal experiences that you may draw from for performances, but I also know that there are a lot of things that you are passionate about or grew up on that you always may go back to. There may be a franchise, a performance, a story, something that you kind of draw to or are drawn to. I'm very curious you know, over the years, what has that looked like from a young age to even now, anything that you're extremely passionate about or you always think about from a fandom or pop culture perspective?
Speaker 2:
27:16
Okay, yep, two big ones. Star Wars Anything Star Wars. My first movie physically in a theater I was four was the Empire Strikes Back, and I don't know, it's like a part of me. I can't even I get emotional talking about it. So Star Wars anything Star Wars. And then little women.
Speaker 2:
27:46
The classic novel Little Women has just been a book that meant the world to me as a kid and then there's been a lot of iterations of it over time in movies and then I was able to, I was asked by the theater where I grew up to adapt it for the stage and go there and direct it. And that's how I ended up in Florida, working in Florida for a while, was working with them. I don't know, it's just, it's a story about coming of age and these four women, these four young women, just finding themselves in the world and it's just, it's literally just timeless, like it just. And Joe, the central character, is kind of what I was talking about. You know she just she's kind of out of place in time, you know she's ahead of her time and always having to fight for what's right and for what she wants, and yeah, so anything to do with that book or to do with Star Wars just kind of lights me up inside and gets me excited.
Speaker 1:
28:47
Yeah, those are two great examples.
Speaker 3:
28:49
Are you still actively keeping up with Star Wars and what is your current? What is your take on the current state of the franchise?
Speaker 1:
29:00
That is the question. Here we go, how do we?
Speaker 3:
29:02
feel now.
Speaker 1:
29:06
All right, we'll be back in an hour.
Speaker 2:
29:07
ladies and gentlemen, I know, yeah, if you're not a star wars fan, come on back in two hours. Uh, yeah, oh. So I mean, I I have really liked some of the new shows. I've okay. So, yes, I'm caught up.
Speaker 2:
29:24
I'm not on all of the new shows though, but I'm caught up on all of the movies, obviously, and I had a lot of hope for the Force Awakens and those three films. I liked the Force Awakens. I was still hopeful during the second one, and then I feel like the third one just kind of shat upon all of our dreams. So that's where I stand on that and, however, I will still watch any of them. Like I'm still like it's Star Wars, like give me the blue milk, like I will just give me it.
Speaker 2:
30:01
But I just the thing that the thing that depresses me a little bit is that I liked where they were headed with the whole idea of the forces. Not this lineage, it's, it's not, it's it's in everyone. You know that. That's that moment with the little boy at the end of the second one, where you know this random slave kid or whatever, and it's like you think, ooh, like the force could be for him too, like the forces for him. And then, and then that last movie and it all goes back to oh no, it was palpatine. So it's all like bloodline and elitist all of a sudden again and it's just like gross remember somehow he returned somehow I mean it's just oh boy yeah, I just it just took the larger question of like that.
Speaker 2:
30:51
I thought that I loved that they were trying to answer which is like is the Force only for this? Like special few or whatever, or like is it something that we can all find an attachment and engagement with, and I thought they were going to answer it like no, the Force is in all of us, if we dig deep enough, or we can all be very, very powerful the force was the friends we made along the way uh, yeah, exactly yeah, so it's, it's it's rough and phil loves to ask star wars fans that question, because he asked me and everyone else.
Speaker 3:
31:22
Christina kelly uh, at brick city anime festival, who voices? Who is her, my hero character? Why am I blanking? Eric? She voices. Eric will look that up, but I asked her christina kelly, yeah, that was the okay. She's in my hero, right. She was in the my hero panel, right am I making that up?
Speaker 1:
31:41
I think you're making that up, I'm fairly certain Anyway. You sure it wasn't Leah Clark? Maybe Leah Clark plays Toga.
Speaker 3:
31:52
No, it wasn't Leah Clark. No, because I asked somebody I'm pretty sure it was Christina what their current opinion was on Star Wars. Now, oh no, it was Christopher Waycamp. I asked Christopher Waycamp how do you?
Speaker 1:
32:03
feel about it.
Speaker 3:
32:04
It totally is, but they were all sitting at the table and I asked how do you feel about the Skywalker saga, yes or no? And he said pass. So that's how. I just like asking that question because I mean, my franchise is Jurassic Park and the Jurassic series is in a very similar state to Star Wars. Right now there's not as many shows, there's like an animated TV show and that's basically it. But again, jurassic World comes out, very similar to the reboot, force Awakens To Force Awakens. You know it's a lot of nostalgia, it's a lot of retread, but it's great. You know, the second movie comes out Uh-oh, a little worried about that. And then the third one comes out, dominion, and it's I mean, obviously it made a billion dollars because it's jurassic, um, but it's still. It's still not very good in my opinion. So I like asking that question because we have a lot in common with star wars fans and I'm a very casual star wars fan. I I really did stop watching the tv shows just because it's so much to keep up with.
Speaker 3:
33:00
Very similar to like marvel there's just so much now, so I would return to the movies. You know we are gonna get one eventually. I will return to the theaters to watch it, because I think there is something very special about seeing star wars films in theaters. But these major franchises right now are? They don't seem to be.
Speaker 2:
33:19
They don't abide by the less is more rule anymore and they're just not as special anymore, especially marvel oh god, yeah, I know I kind of gave up on, kind of gave up on marvel a while back too, because I just couldn't, I just couldn't, I did. There are enough hours in the day they're really kind of how it's kind of how I am with the star wars shows as well, but I mean, like I make time for when it's something I really want to see. You know, like I had to watch Obi-Wan Kenobi type of thing, I had to watch Ahsoka.
Speaker 1:
33:47
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
33:47
I love Ahsoka. The thing for me for Star Wars 2 is like, as a little girl I mean, carrie Fisher was everything. She was everything Like Princess Leia. There was no other character like her. Like right out of the gate, bossing these boys around, like get out of my way. Like right out of the gate, bossing these boys around, like get out of my way, you know, like I can rescue my own damn self, like what? Like no one was playing, there was no, sorry, I'm like changing my little desk thing around like there was just no one like her. That was a girl, you know.
Speaker 2:
34:19
So I was just obsessed with that woman and so that, which, of course, made that last movie just so much more depressing, because we all had heard that. You know, the original plan had been that she would be like they were finally gonna like go into how she was powerful. Anyway, this is. We do not. We do not need a whole podcast about me whining about we need more leia. But, um, yeah, but leia was really. She was it for me like she she was, she was the shit very much ahead of her time.
Speaker 3:
34:49
That character like yes, yeah, and then he never really wrote.
Speaker 2:
34:53
He never really wrote another one that could compare like I don't know. Yeah, padme wasn't that well no, and then dave filoni wrote ahsoka, who was just like everything, like she's the only one who female character that has like come close. But she's amazing, like, what a character. She's so great. But anyway, I'm just now rewatching Clone Wars because my boyfriend had never seen it and this was unacceptable to me. So we are watching.
Speaker 1:
35:25
Just going through it. Yeah, it's good that you're part of both, because I know Clone Wars was something that I never fully got into, like I had watched like spare, like occasionally, but never like a full run through, and I felt really sad when it ended. How good it ended that I wasn't a part of that. But then now seeing Ahsoka and and knowing I missed out Between that and like Rebels, I've definitely thought about jumping back Rebels is so worth it.
Speaker 1:
35:51
Like really good stuff. Yeah, and it's because I've always had a love for Star Wars, but they've lost me. They've lost me with those last two movies and a couple of the shows. The Book of Boba Fett was like One of my last draws. I think uh, but the mandalorian do not, don't, do it to yourself.
Speaker 3:
36:10
It's also just like half of a mandalorian season so, and I didn't even watch it. Oh yeah, just from what eric? Yeah, if you watch the mandalorian.
Speaker 1:
36:17
You might, you might have to. There's like literally a episode and a half. That's just the mandalorian, which is crazy for a boba fett show that is interesting, all the all that.
Speaker 2:
36:27
It's like you have to watch every single one of those shows in order to know what, every what's going on, which is where Marvel, it was their biggest strength until it wasn't. Right.
Speaker 1:
36:37
And I think that is, um, that that's the most unfortunate part, but I did. It was funny that you brought up Leia because I wanted to bring up, you know. You said Joe from Little Women and then you said Leia. Were there any other like female characters specifically that really spoke to you when you were younger that you kind of look back on and that you think fondly of? Or, if not, those were maybe your main two. Are there any characters in recent media that have kind of had a similar draw in your opinion?
Speaker 2:
37:14
I also really loved Anne Shirley from Anne of Green Gables when I was growing up. She's very like Joe in Little Women too. They have kind of a similar spirit. Those were kind of my ones when I was a kid and then as an adult, well, that is. Yeah, literally nothing is coming to my head and I know that I see things all the time that I'm like what a fantastic character. Can't think of anything basic, probably anything that Cate Blanchett has ever played, because that woman, yeah, god, I can't think of character. I'm thinking of what are like oh so, like things like Lord of the Rings and stuff like that. I'm trying to think of like large, like franchise shows that we're thinking about like archetypes and stuff. I mean I really loved Daenerys until the end. That's usually the consensus.
Speaker 1:
38:10
I haven't seen it, but I'm halfway through my Game of Thrones journey right now and I'm just waiting for 8, so I'm at 4 right now. Just got past the Red Wedding and yeah actually.
Speaker 3:
38:25
I have seen the last episode of Game of Thrones. I saw the series.
Speaker 1:
38:28
Phil did. I was at my sister's.
Speaker 3:
38:32
I was at my sister's and she was like oh, I'm about to watch the series finale, Do you want to just stay? I was like sure, she's calling me right now.
Speaker 1:
38:42
We did have a joke for a while where we were going to start a podcast.
Speaker 3:
38:49
I was going to watch it in reverse and I was going to start a podcast called Throne of Games and I was going to watch the show in reverse.
Speaker 1:
38:54
A dream is still alive until someone takes it from us.
Speaker 2:
38:57
That would be like reverse traumatizing. I don't know, that's just like wow, that show.
Speaker 3:
39:01
Wow.
Speaker 2:
39:02
Wow, yeah, that's a big wow that show Wow, wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:
39:05
Yeah, that's a big one, but that's not bad. Daenerys isn't a bad choice at all, phil. I think there's definitely been a lot of examples for us. I mean most recently like Arcane.
Speaker 3:
39:15
Arcane characters are great.
Speaker 1:
39:18
Has been a great example. But yeah, Phil, anything you kind of want to throw in here.
Speaker 3:
39:23
Yeah, I want to throw in here, yeah, I want to throw out a fun question that we ask a lot at conventions and because you mentioned Wicked earlier, and I want to know, because of course you have the theater background In terms of a musical that you think that could make the jump and be similarly successful to Wicked. We've also seen John Chu tackle In the Heights. Of course In the last few years we've had, you know, tick Tick Hamilton, tick Tick Boom to a degree as well, but what musical theater show that maybe hasn't made that jump to a film that you think could work and have similar success or at least be, you know, relatively popular, have similar success or?
Speaker 2:
40:04
at least be, you know, relatively popular. Well, you know, what I would love to see made into film is Ragtime. Are you guys familiar with Ragtime? I don't think so. Oh my God it was. I mean, it's like my favorite musical ever and that, and it like it smushed out Les Mis, you know, like that was my favorite musical ever from the time I was in seventh grade. But Ragtime it was a novel and it was turned into a musical in the late 90s and just this soaring epic music like, just like the kind of thing where you'll hear a number and be like oh my God, that was incredible.
Speaker 2:
40:45
And then, two numbers later, you hear another one. You're just like, oh my god, like, and it's, it's about racism. You know, it's about racism at the turn of the century, turn of the 20th century, in America and it's still obviously just as relevant as it ever freaking was um, which is why I think it should definitely be turned into a movie and it and just the music is just astounding, like it's insane. So yeah, if you ever want to look up ragtime, they just rebooted it on broadway for like a limited engagement with this crazy cast. So you'll probably find some stuff if you looked at a little search on yeah, yeah, I was just, I was just looking it up.
Speaker 1:
41:24
It's like. It's like broken up by like three different groups or cultures of people yes, it's seen from the you're.
Speaker 2:
41:31
You're seeing it from the perspective of, uh, white, very entitled people and then immigrants, mostly jewish immigrants, and then the black people in new york at that time and, yeah, it is just an incredible story and incredible music, um, and it would make an insane yeah, they do a lot of those, um, they do a lot of those shows, a lot of musical shows here in jacksonville, um, so I'd be very curious when that might come up, if it's making a resurgence.
Speaker 1:
42:05
I, I know for me, you know, and actually I'm going to, I'm going to, uh, keep it on Wicked for one second. Um, I'm going to get ask a yes or no question. Uh, did you think that Wicked was too long? The adaptation, the movie? Did you think it was too long that they're breaking it into two parts? No, thank you. Okay, the movie. Did you think it was too long that they're?
Speaker 3:
42:35
breaking it into two parts. No, thank you. Okay, thank you. I just wanted phil to hear that specifically. That is the correct answer.
Speaker 1:
42:38
I don't know why you're directing that to me specifically. Phil hasn't seen the musical um I haven't seen the theater show and he thinks thinks part one's too long.
Speaker 3:
42:45
Until I saw the actual theater show, Because that's how I wanted to experience it. But everyone was like this is incredible. So I saw it and I enjoyed it. I had a good time. I gave it a good grade. What?
Speaker 1:
42:58
was the grade.
Speaker 3:
42:58
I just didn't enjoy it. A three out of five.
Speaker 1:
43:00
Okay, because when I give a three out of five, you guys tell me that I'm shitting on the movie. So I just want to make sure there's no double standards.
Speaker 3:
43:07
No, your three out of five is different. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:
43:10
You gave the film Wicked a three out of five.
Speaker 1:
43:14
Correct, just barely above a halfway score. Yes, correct.
Speaker 2:
43:18
What are you scoring on?
Speaker 3:
43:21
We use Letterboxd.
Speaker 1:
43:24
No, but you specifically? What's going on up here? I thought it was too long.
Speaker 3:
43:29
I didn't really think some of the performances were a little off and I just didn't enjoy it as much as everybody else did. Again, I definitely don't think it's bad or anything like that, but I definitely wish I had seen the theater play first next to this, as opposed to seeing the movie first. But again, everyone kept talking about it. So I was like, well, I'm gonna have to see this.
Speaker 1:
43:54
Yeah, for contrast, this is one of those like me and Phil are pretty in sync for running a podcast together. We're pretty in sync with a lot of stuff. This is one of those odd films where we're not and I went in expecting to give it like a three and a half, like I thought it'd be okay, but it's a four and a half out of five and it could be a five. I watched it for a second time the other night. It's just as magical. It's one of the most magical theater experiences I've ever had.
Speaker 2:
44:21
I noticed so much more the second time I watched it. Because I think the first time I watched it I was just kind of overwhelmed by just the enormity of it. You know, it was just just massive. But yeah, the second time I watched I noticed so many other, so many new things like like the cinematography, like this, the different perspectives they would choose to tell things from the different, the use of color oftentimes no-transcript for ariana, because she's gonna lose to everybody's gonna lose to emilia perez at the oscars and it just makes me very mad, so yeah, so I have.
Speaker 2:
45:24
I have not seen amelia perez.
Speaker 1:
45:26
I can we're doing an episode on it because I had to watch it.
Speaker 1:
45:31
I had to watch it after seeing the nominations it was the second most nominated movie, tied for the second most with 13, and I was like I know for a fact people hate this movie. So I'm gonna watch it with an open mind. And the first 15 minutes I was like, oh, we might have something here. And then it goes so off the rails and I give it a one and a half out of five. I don't normally go under two for movies Like. It takes a lot for me to say a movie is objectively bad. Right, this is not only bad, but for the demographic that this movie is supposed to speak to, it's kind of highly offensive. It's very offensive and that's how a lot of people have received that film. The moral of the story it's a very old French director writing a movie about a transgender character in the Mexican cartel and has no ties to either of those communities. What do you think the recipe is going to be there?
Speaker 1:
46:29
Probably not going to be good, and that's how a lot of people are looking at this film and it's, I would say, watch it to be in the know of it. Right Like as a recommendation. I would not wish that on anybody. It's a tough watch, but Phil wants to watch it and now we're going to just like, because 13 nominations and and like what?
Speaker 3:
46:50
the other thing that upset me like you said, this took sing sing spot in the best. Uh, you know best 2024 category, for sure. So which was my favorite movie of 2024?
Speaker 1:
47:01
so I didn't see it.
Speaker 3:
47:03
oh gosh, it's so good. I think it just finally re-released in theaters because for some reason A24 just did not put it in theaters in 2024. So they finally re-released in the beginning of the year, but easily my favorite movie. But to bring it back to the question about what can translate well to film, my answer was Come From Away. That's always been my answer, I think. Come From Away because of its subject matter and also the songs are outstanding, I think would work very, very well. And then, Eric I don't know if you talked to Jessica or not about your pick I know you mentioned it to Thomas Sanders while we were at oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3:
47:38
In Gainesville.
Speaker 1:
47:39
Anytime somebody tells me they love musicals, I shout out epic the musical, uh, which has just wrapped up. It's a concept album that was basically spawned from tiktok and it's, uh, very, very great. It's about the odyssey. So if you're an odyssey fan and you're a musical fan, I just highly recommend pulling it up. It's broken up into nine different sagas, about 40 songs, and it's it's it's probably my favorite musical. So you mentioned ragtime. For you it's very much recency bias, but, like I, I listen to epic. Epic the musical was my number one artist, I believe in 2023. It was my number one artist last year and, based off the pace in one month so far, it might be again in my spotify rap. So we're gonna see how it goes.
Speaker 1:
48:27
But uh, I'm gonna have to check it out now. I recommend it. Uh, if you're good with listening to just like an auditory, it's great. If you want a visual, there's so many amazing creators that have made like animatics that you can find on youtube.
Speaker 1:
48:39
if you want a visual, um, you know, appeal to it, but I highly recommend it. Check it out. It's one of those things that I shout off the rooftops whenever I can and I'm very curious. We've talked about a lot of musicals we do like. Are there any that you don't like Like? Is there anyone that like sticks out to you that was really disappointing or maybe didn't work for you? So I'm very curious what that is, because everybody's favorite musical is so different and everyone's least favorite musical is equally different.
Speaker 2:
49:12
Yeah, so mine's complicated. So I hate Cats, I hate it. But it's complicated only because when I was in high school, I went to a theater school and we actually had an original cast member from, like, the Viennese company of cats or something came and like taught us the original choreography for the opening number and we learned it and performed it and it was hard and wonderful and what a great experience and whatever. But then kind of revisited the musical later as an adult and just sat there and attempted to watch it and was just like what am I doing with my time right now? Like I don't, I don't, I have no, I have no time for this. So that's, it's real low, real low for me on my list of things that probably should never have existed. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:
50:10
Eric, you're going to be surprised because we haven't necessarily talked about this. The music I still very much love, but the farther we've gotten away from dear evan hansen, like the grosser, I feel about it and that's a conversation that a lot of people have within within no, I'm gonna theater, but the story itself is gross I'm not.
Speaker 1:
50:31
I'm not going to defend that, but the music's too good that's why I said does anybody have a map? Is like my favorite.
Speaker 2:
50:37
Opening for like, cut it from the movie to piss me off and to me and I'm just, maybe it's a different generation thing or something, but, like to me, all of the music a dear ev Evan Hansen sounds like glorified Christian rock. I don't know.
Speaker 1:
50:54
I could kind of see that no 100%.
Speaker 2:
50:56
It just does, I don't know, to me a lot of modern musicals sound like that. I don't know, I don't know. And yeah, I hated that show. Sorry about it, no it's okay.
Speaker 3:
51:08
A lot of people do. A lot of people were very upset that that won a tony.
Speaker 2:
51:14
A lot of people were very upset that we and we could all agree the story itself and that's part of my thing is like so we're gonna create this new american musical that a bunch of high schoolers are gonna want to jump on and do at their high school, because I worked, I just worked at a theater for kids and like they're chomping at the bit to do that show and I'm like you know, like what in the world are we doing? However, you know, that said, we've also been having kids do the musical Grease since 1980, whatever, and that can we just talk about. Wow, that's a disgusting show. That.
Speaker 2:
51:49
That's a choice With a terrible terrible terrible message Conform, conform and we'll all be okay, Okay.
Speaker 3:
52:03
This isn't the same thing, but we just had a couple of guests on the other night that are going to be Wednesday's episode and we're covering Pretty Woman in February. Oh man. Because neither one of us had seen it and Eric had brought up, like you know, richard Gere Kind of gross and I was like, well, that was just like the male rom-com character in the 90s was he's pretty trashy, but he's still here so I might as well fall in love with him.
Speaker 2:
52:34
He's got a lot of in love with him. That is so true. That's like the really rich guy who's just kind of a jerk and can't yeah, like can't, so we'll, we'll commit, yeah, yeah, I mean like why, even in the early 2000s.
Speaker 3:
52:41
so, and I think that's why we aren't seeing, well, rom-coms are making a little bit of a resurgence in the last few years, but because for so long it was just written that like well, this guy won't go away. So Right. We're together now.
Speaker 2:
52:54
Right, he's a stalker.
Speaker 3:
52:55
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
52:56
And so now it's great, I love him.
Speaker 1:
52:58
Yeah, my musical that I pretty much pinpointed because I really don't dislike a lot of stuff Like Phil will watch a lot of bad things. Like in general, I don't like watching things that I like know from people I trust are going to be bad, because I just don't want to have a bad time. Yeah, everybody told me this musical was great and I wanted to walk out Hadestown, which is funny.
Speaker 1:
53:21
I forgot you didn't like Hadestown, which is funny because I just told you about a Greek mythological musical that is probably my favorite. That is probably my favorite. I thought this was for me, the blend of the Greek underworld and like the New Orleans, like music, didn't work for me. The main song is the only song I really enjoyed, which is Wait For Me, I believe I just I didn't like it. I saw it live and then I tried to listen to the cast album. Just not for me. I heard Jordan Fisher was the lead in some circles. Maybe if I saw him, because I love Jordan Fisher, but even then I don't think it would save it and I feel really bad because anytime I say that, people do gasp like you do. Oh no, it's true.
Speaker 2:
54:05
I'm with you. I saw the original cast in New York. We were doing my show off Broadway for a few weeks during the original cast run of that and I was so excited and spent my hard earned money and, yeah, and was so disappointed and and it's not like they're everyone in that show was phenomenal, the performances were amazing, you know, but like, yeah, the show itself just like didn't grab me the way that I expected that it would and maybe that's cool like, oh, everything about it was really cool I.
Speaker 1:
54:37
The way I explained it was that it's a. It's a if it's the most I need to win a tony musical that's like, ever been created, like it's clearly built to win a tony award.
Speaker 2:
54:48
That doesn't make it a good musical, though yeah, I just found telling the story in that way. I didn't care about any of the characters. I'm like I just kept waiting, to care about what was going on and I just didn't.
Speaker 1:
55:02
Yeah, 100%. I'm glad I'm not alone you don't, you don't?
Speaker 3:
55:09
I feel like I do to see what you're saying yeah well, I don't know.
Speaker 1:
55:16
Phil didn't enjoy the first saga. He listened to five songs of epic, didn't it?
Speaker 3:
55:19
wasn't really his vibe.
Speaker 1:
55:20
He didn't like the wicked movie, so maybe you will love hadestown. Maybe it is for you, maybe, maybe maybe.
Speaker 2:
55:25
So I mean, the thing is that there's part of me that like wants to see hadestown again, because, because I felt like I should have liked it. You know, like it's one of those things where you're like what am I missing? Like what am I missing?
Speaker 1:
55:37
and it's tough too, because we talk about this all the time and phil knows I'm a big stickler. Like all of my opinions I do put with an asterisk if I've only seen it once, like I'm very big, especially for films that if you haven't seen a movie twice it it's hard to cement an opinion. So, like whenever I give a grade for a movie like again I've thrown a couple out on this episode I usually give about a point, give or take, either way up or down, because upon a second watch I could feel much differently. Just like a lot of times. It's really difficult because in the line of work we do for content we have to give opinions on, like a movie. But there have been several movies like last year that the longer I went away from it I slept on it, I like loved even more because I got to really think about it and reflect on it. Or vice versa, I walked away from a movie thinking, oh, that was all right, and then I just felt icky afterwards.
Speaker 1:
56:28
Like that that was really forgettable. I didn't really like this, so it's a. It's very much give or take, and I think that can be applied to TV and and musicals as well.
Speaker 2:
56:39
Yeah, I think any piece of art, you know, because it's art is all about the way it hits you. It's so personal so it's kind of also could have to do with, like whatever mood you were in that day, like what happened on your way to see that art, you know that could completely shape your, the way you're taking it in.
Speaker 1:
56:55
Yeah, I agree with that. That was me for Moana too. I was in such a good mood that day, oh my gosh. I gave it a three and objectively it's much less than it.
Speaker 3:
57:03
It's a really bad sequel, but yeah, I just walked out of the theater. Like that wasn't as bad. Oh, my girl, I just I just choose to acknowledge that moana 2 never came out, yeah that it's not part of, it's not canon. That's what I, that's what I'll go with.
Speaker 1:
57:19
So it's tough, jessica. Have you ever uh, have you ever like, like? What is your disney relationship like? Everybody's disney relationship's always so different, kind of wrap wrapping up some of our questions yeah, what is?
Speaker 2:
57:31
that I was raised in tamp, born and raised in tampa. So you know, we we jump, we jump over there all the time and so, yeah, big, big disney girl. I love the old stuff, but to me golden age is always going to be like aladdin, little mermaid, that whole era of um stuff that came out Still up on it, because my son is very much a Disney guy.
Speaker 3:
57:55
So yeah, yeah, I think they are right now it's kind of disappointing not disappointing, but it's a bummer, because I think they were trending very, very high, like they were doing very, very well, and then recently they are stuck in this obviously a sequel era, where they just don't want to make anything original and then when they do put original stuff out, nobody sees it. So you know, like I very much love Turning Red, eric loves Elemental. Luca, I thought was pretty good, but also Soul Soul, I thought was very good as well.
Speaker 2:
58:30
See, and I didn't see half of those, I feel like they're just church. They turn them out so fast, exactly.
Speaker 1:
58:36
Yeah, they released them all.
Speaker 3:
58:37
On Disney+ yeah, they were COVID-era films. They did release them in theaters, but at that point like it's too late. That's why I'm glad Encanto got like a revival after you know it was a theater for a little bit eric. Eric very much hates. In panto it's literally, I guess that is I think, I think, I think it was made for me because, like the spanish, like uh ties, I, I'm also colombian, I love lynn's music as well um so I'm, I'm not, I'm not part of that lynn fatigue.
Speaker 1:
59:05
Uh, post hamilton. Um, I think, like vivo phil is like I love movie, I talk about that movie too yeah. Vivo's great, yeah, no, just did not work for me. I didn't think. Story structure wise, I'm also a very big villain type of person when it comes to movies, so there has to be some type of antagonist or force, and when that is just family trauma, like in the movie that was made, that speaks to me.
Speaker 1:
59:31
I get it Now listen if she grabbed a sandal and threw it, I would have felt that through the screen. But I also didn't love the music After the Family Madrigal. I really thought it was a strong intro. Everything after that didn't really hit. I have grown fonder of it the more I've been away from it, but it's just not one I very much vibe with my other hot take apparently is frozen uh, which, oh yeah, I'm not a big.
Speaker 1:
1:00:00
I'm not a big fan of the frozen movies in general, let alone the music. So there, those are my two hot disney takes that people do not like.
Speaker 3:
1:00:09
No, I think, Frozen. My whole thing is that I wish that Rapunzel gets the shine that Elsa yeah, Tangled is objectively a better movie.
Speaker 1:
1:00:17
Seriously, Tangled is a fantastic movie so good so good yeah.
Speaker 3:
1:00:22
So I mean we're gonna get a live action of that, and if Mandy Moore isn't involved, oh, then there's no justice in the world. Maybe I'll buy it.
Speaker 1:
1:00:29
But let's just uh.
Speaker 3:
1:00:30
No, zachary levi right no, I cannot wait for the rant on social media that zachary levi is gonna go through when they don't cast. Oh my lord as. Or zach braff. Not that he's done anything personally, but let's not stay with the next part.
Speaker 2:
1:00:47
I think we've all aged out of that Braff. Can we all please just move on? Yes.
Speaker 3:
1:00:53
So, but it was a bummer because, again, I think they had a lot like a really good run. Big Hero 6, you know some of those Inside Out, obviously, inside Out 2, a good movie. You can make the argument did we need an Inside Out 2? Probably not, but they seem to be trending very, very well. Zootopia, getting a Zootopia 2. Don't need that, don't need it, don't need it. We'll see.
Speaker 3:
1:01:19
But my, my thing that I have brought up over the last couple of years is that other studios Sony, dreamworks these other studios are starting to lap Disney um in terms of their projects that they're putting out. Uh, nimona is one of my favorite movies that's come out over the last few years. Wolfwalkers is a great animated film that is on. I don't know these movies. No, they're fantastic. Nimona is on Netflix, wolfwalkers is on Apple TV and our favorite maybe animated film in the last 10, 20 years is Puss in Boots, the Last Wish. It is outstanding. It is objectively a five out of five that we, every chance we get. Also, listeners take a shot, because every time we bring up puss in boots, the last wish they take, we have a drink in the game. It is outstanding. So if you haven't, if you haven't seen puss in boots, the last wish, uh highly recommend it. Animation, uh, the story, the characters, the characters. It is stunning, it's a beautiful film.
Speaker 3:
1:02:14
So that's why these other studios are taking risks. They're putting out really beautiful animation and it seems like Disney's kind of copying and pasting over and over again. But also Moana 2 made a billion dollars or something, so Toy Story 6 is going to make a billion dollars, no less, no lessons have been learned here today?
Speaker 1:
1:02:36
no, no, not at all. But, phil, um, if do you have any other questions, we can get to those, but if not, I think this is probably a perfect place to transition to our games, which I'll have you present. I think that's been working out for both of us. But do you have any other questions before we get started?
Speaker 3:
1:02:57
No, because we're probably just going to jump from franchise to franchise.
Speaker 1:
1:03:01
We had a very good jump there. I told you, jessica, it's going to be real easy.
Speaker 1:
1:03:05
We got Star Wars, we did Disney, we did yeah, so I think I've covered everything, uh that I that I wanted to cover on my end yeah, and Jessica, you've been great with those questions and I think now is a great way to kind of cap off the episode with uh two games that I put together. Both of them are speed games that I want to play with you, and I'll explain that in a minute. Uh one is going to be movie focused and the other is going to be TV show focused.
Speaker 1:
1:03:34
We're going to start with the movie game called.
Speaker 3:
1:03:37
Movie.
Speaker 1:
1:03:38
Taglines, and this will be easy. Phil will put it on the screen for both you and our viewers and we'll get started. You both will be playing. So Phil does not know the answers to this. And yeah, just some friendly competition. I usually rig these against Phil, but I tried to be pretty even here, so it's not true?
Speaker 1:
1:04:00
It's not true, phil. If we could go over the rules on how to play for this year. There are three things to know. Each prompt will show both the tagline or one of the taglines that's been used for the movie and a blurred image that may be a clue, may not be in the background. This is a speed game, so this one's going to be real casual. You get however many guesses you want. First person to answer correctly gets the point. So it'll come up, I'll say it, shout it out. There are going to be six total movies. The person with the most points at the end wins, and if we get a tie, jessica wins because she's the guest. I don't know, I made that rule up just now. So, all right, are you both ready?
Speaker 2:
1:04:42
Ready, let's do it.
Speaker 1:
1:04:44
Okay, all right. Well, phil. The next slide was are you ready?
Speaker 3:
1:04:47
Oh, Then you didn't indicate that.
Speaker 1:
1:04:49
Well, you know what? You've done this before let's go. Let's go to the first one. The first movie's tagline is let the magic begin.
Speaker 3:
1:05:00
Fantasia no.
Speaker 2:
1:05:05
Let the magic begin. Oh, I have no idea. That's okay. Can we get clues? You said idea.
Speaker 3:
1:05:12
That's okay. Can we get clues?
Speaker 1:
1:05:13
you said I can give you clues, but I think you guys can get this one. Let the magic begin.
Speaker 2:
1:05:20
You know, there were those movies that were about magicians. There were two of them that were very much alike, and one of them had Hugh Jackman in it and the other one had oh, Now. You See, Me?
Speaker 3:
1:05:30
No, that's not. Hugh Jackman. Oh, the Prestige me? No, that's not.
Speaker 1:
1:05:32
Hugh Jackman. Oh no, it is not the Prestige, the.
Speaker 2:
1:05:34
Prestige, thank you, which is a top tier movie. Yeah, really good, really good yeah.
Speaker 1:
1:05:40
No, I would say the Prestige was probably what. What was the Prestige rated R I?
Speaker 3:
1:05:46
would assume it's just such a blanket statement for so many Is it Wish?
Speaker 1:
1:05:51
It's very broad. I hope it is very broad. Is that Wish? The Prestige was PG-13. This movie is lower than PG-13.
Speaker 3:
1:06:03
It's not Wish. No, it is not Wish Another.
Speaker 1:
1:06:05
Disney movie yeah, but that's like universally not very much liked.
Speaker 2:
1:06:10
Let the magic begin.
Speaker 3:
1:06:13
Yeah, this movie is rated PG. This isn't like the beginning of a Cinemark AMC commercial.
Speaker 1:
1:06:18
Honestly, the fact that neither of you have gotten it is kind of surprising. I thought we were starting easy here too.
Speaker 2:
1:06:24
I mean, is this like Harry Potter or something? It is Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
Speaker 1:
1:06:32
Oh my god.
Speaker 3:
1:06:34
What a dumb tagline.
Speaker 1:
1:06:35
It's so bland that could be anything. We just demonstrated that. Yes, other taglines was journey beyond your imagination. Journey beyond your imagination, the magic begins.
Speaker 3:
1:06:50
November 16th, disney Universal Park. Nothing to do with the movie. I don't know what to tell you beyond your imagination. Uh, the magic begins. These are just disney universal park themes.
Speaker 1:
1:06:55
I don't know what to tell you. All right, uh, jessica, up with one point, let's go to our next one. Tagline is no day but today oh crap, it is red very good there we go. All right, I had to put a uh musical film in there that's it, but I wouldn't have gotten it you know, all right, the next one. The blank saga continues.
Speaker 1:
1:07:22
No, it's not, the furious saga continues oh man I really I have to, you have to tell me which one the Force Awakens. It is not, jessica. Do you know which one it is?
Speaker 2:
1:07:36
The epic saga continues. The what saga continues.
Speaker 1:
1:07:41
So Phil did confirm it is a Star.
Speaker 2:
1:07:43
Wars film. So it is a Star Wars film.
Speaker 1:
1:07:45
Yep, he guessed, the Force Awakens. It is not that oh.
Speaker 2:
1:07:49
Okay, so it has to be Empire Strikes Back then.
Speaker 1:
1:07:52
It is the Empire Strikes Back. Yeah, my that. Oh, okay, so it has to be empire strikes back. Then it is the empire strikes back. My first movie. Very funny that we talked about that. I did have this in there beforehand symmetry, symmetry all right, let's go to our next one, movie number four. The greatest fairy tale never told that was fast and it is. It is Shrek, amazing, alright. Movie number five iconic terror from the number one best selling writer misery the shining the shining alright, we love the shining.
Speaker 1:
1:08:32
All right, we love the shining all right, this last one for all the marbles 40 stories of sheer adventure 40 stories stories 40 stories, stories like building or stories like a book. That hint will come much later 40 stories.
Speaker 2:
1:09:00
Of sheer adventure. I don't know what this is.
Speaker 3:
1:09:06
Tower of Terror.
Speaker 1:
1:09:07
I will tell. No, I will tell you guys, this movie is rated R.
Speaker 3:
1:09:14
Oh is it. Is it, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, Is it Die Hard?
Speaker 1:
1:09:21
It is Die Hard.
Speaker 3:
1:09:24
What oh?
Speaker 2:
1:09:26
40 stories. 40 stories.
Speaker 1:
1:09:28
The other tagline I almost used which I thought would be too easy was 40 stories, 12 terrorists, one cop, all right. Well, uh, phil, that was the end of the game and you guys are tied, which means jessica wins. It's just, it's just how it went uh, it's a very good.
Speaker 3:
1:09:47
It could have been like whoever has the most voice acting credits wins the game.
Speaker 1:
1:09:52
No, no, I didn't want to make it that unfair so.
Speaker 3:
1:09:58
I had no way to know how that would turn out.
Speaker 1:
1:10:00
You got Die Hard. I didn't know you'd get that one.
Speaker 3:
1:10:03
The stories is what yeah?
Speaker 1:
1:10:05
Got it? Yeah, all right. So our next one is going to work very similarly. It's a TV edition of a new game we're trying out called Zoom it. In this game, as many new games are played, we'll see how this goes, how to play. There are six total shows. Their images are going to be zoomed in. So I'm going to zoom into a part of the image and it's going to be flipped to make it a little bit harder, hopefully. Take a look at the picture carefully and shout out your answer. This is also a speed game, but you're only going to get one guess. Okay, only going to get one guess each. So take a moment and lock in your answer before you shout it out. The person with the most points in this one wins the game. So, phil, are you guys ready? Let's do it. That was your cue. I tried to specifically call you out.
Speaker 3:
1:11:00
I see, why is there an? Are you ready screen?
Speaker 1:
1:11:03
You know what Feedback has been taken. I understand that maybe it's not necessary. I just thought, visually, look at the eyes. Okay, well, here's the first one Friends.
Speaker 3:
1:11:20
Okay, I was going to say do we answer whenever?
Speaker 1:
1:11:22
Yeah, it's a speed game. Okay, gotcha, you didn't listen to the rules. Friends is correct, very good, so, yep, that is the scene from Friends. That's part of the couch in the classic cafe. All right, we'll go to our next one. It's okay If neither of you end up knowing I will throw out a hint, a small one, but I'll give you guys a second to digest it.
Speaker 3:
1:11:50
Is it no? It's not, nope, is it no? That's in the desert. Oh, that was my one guess.
Speaker 1:
1:11:58
Not only is it not, nope, this is the TV edition of TV.
Speaker 3:
1:12:04
Okay, so that didn't count.
Speaker 1:
1:12:06
I won't count that one, that's fine.
Speaker 3:
1:12:09
Can I guess the Walking Dead? It is the Walking Dead, that's fine. Can I guess the Walking Dead? It is?
Speaker 2:
1:12:14
The Walking Dead. That makes sense.
Speaker 1:
1:12:16
Alright, yep, that is the poster image.
Speaker 3:
1:12:19
Oh yeah, that's that house that house.
Speaker 1:
1:12:21
Yep, alright, let's do our next one.
Speaker 3:
1:12:28
Hey Arnold, hey Arnold.
Speaker 1:
1:12:31
This is that's my show. Sorry, jessica, oh my god. This is hey Arnold. This is that's my show. Sorry, jessica, oh my god. This is hey Arnold, that's my favorite animated show of all time.
Speaker 2:
1:12:38
Never would have gotten it, never in a million years.
Speaker 1:
1:12:41
I always throw a one in there. That's a guarantee for Phil Because, again, most of the games usually rigged, it usually doesn't go very well. So Alright, our next one.
Speaker 2:
1:12:52
Just some clouds in the sky.
Speaker 3:
1:12:56
There's no way I'm going to give you a second, Jessica.
Speaker 1:
1:13:02
Jessica, this one's for you specifically, if that's a big enough hit.
Speaker 2:
1:13:06
Oh, is it my hero.
Speaker 1:
1:13:08
It is my hero academia. There it is. Look at that.
Speaker 3:
1:13:14
You should have done like inside the apartment.
Speaker 1:
1:13:16
Oh my God, I should have, but I was like it's the my Hero clouds, I thought that would be, and then the little corner of UA. Yeah, that's on me. But, jessica, great job, no.
Speaker 2:
1:13:29
No, that's not on you, that's definitely on you, that's definitely on me.
Speaker 1:
1:13:34
That's 2-2. We're doing good here. Let's move to our next one. What's happening?
Speaker 3:
1:13:41
What? What is this the office?
Speaker 1:
1:13:46
It is Okay, the office Nice. There we go, all right there we go. All right. What a guy.
Speaker 2:
1:13:59
And our last one. Oh, I know this.
Speaker 1:
1:14:10
I know this.
Speaker 2:
1:14:11
Spongebob it is.
Speaker 1:
1:14:12
It is Spongebob.
Speaker 3:
1:14:21
It is Spongebob.
Speaker 1:
1:14:21
All, all right. Oh, that's the top of the crusty ground with a random I don't. Honestly, I'm really, I'm really happy how this turned out.
Speaker 3:
1:14:26
It was the art style. I was like I know this art style yes, that's totally what it was.
Speaker 2:
1:14:32
I guess it is technically.
Speaker 3:
1:14:33
Well, no, it's not. I thought it was like the side of, like a boat, mobile or something. I did not think that it would be. I didn't even know that that pipe existed inside the Krusty.
Speaker 1:
1:14:41
Krab. Honestly, it could have been anything. All right, yeah, that is it. Thanks for playing Great job. All right, 1-1. You both tied. So Jessica won the first one, phil, you won the second one. That's a great way for that to turn out.
Speaker 2:
1:14:56
I feel very good walking away from you know, I don't feel humiliated. I feel like we both did well for ourselves.
Speaker 3:
1:15:02
Exactly, we did solid.
Speaker 1:
1:15:03
Good night Phil. That's good. Usually Phil is the one walking away, humiliated.
Speaker 3:
1:15:07
Yeah, no, it's usually. That's usually how it goes.
Speaker 1:
1:15:09
This worked out, but I hope you both enjoyed that game and Phil anything else. I think this is a great kind of closing segment for our episode, which has already been a ton of fun.
Speaker 3:
1:15:23
No, jessica, this was so much fun. Thank you so much for making the time and we hope to see you soon. I know you were actually at a Jacksonville convention a couple years ago and we didn't meet you at the time. I don't know that we were at. It was at Bold City, con Eric. She was at when it was still at Toontown, which I don't know. If you heard, jessica, they turned Toontown into Pickleball Courts, so it's not even like a space you can write down anymore. They turned it into a game that's no one's going to be playing by the end of 2025, so you ever watch people play pickleball it was.
Speaker 3:
1:15:59
Yeah, we saw it once.
Speaker 1:
1:16:00
It was very confusing. I don't know if they like it's so.
Speaker 3:
1:16:04
It was such a cool space. I assume they've painted over all the cool artwork and graffiti so again.
Speaker 3:
1:16:09
We haven't. We haven't been in there since then, so that was a huge bummer, but we hope to see you, uh, whether it be here in jacksonville or or somewhere else at another convention very, very soon, and also have you back on, because clearly there are many more fandoms that we need to get into, uh, that we just couldn't contain in this one episode. So please let everybody know what you are up to, um, where they can find you if you do have any appearances coming up, but also just your work in general. Let our audience know where they can keep up with everything you are doing.
Speaker 2:
1:16:39
Yeah, so you can find me on Instagram at Jessica Kavanaugh just that's just my name. I have a website that is finally being constructed right now as we speak, and it's just JessicaKavanaughcom, and it'll talk about all my stuff my theater career and voiceover and whatever. In terms of voice, I'm now in the middle of. I've gotten to go back to fairy tale because my character came back, so that's exciting, but I don't have anything new coming down the pipe right now, because just all this moving stuff and everything. But, yeah, what was I going to do? Oh, I have a convention in April in Minneapolis, in Minneapolis. I'll be there for that. And then in July oh shoot, where's the one? In July, on July 4th it is On Independence Day.
Speaker 2:
1:17:35
Okay Day, okay, yeah, it's Anime Midwest in Chicago, so yeah. So I have those two conventions coming up and I'm just trying to. I'm just leaving the teaching gig behind and getting back into freelance, so hopefully doing more voice work and I'm also going to be starting to coach, because I was doing a lot of coaching for the last three years coaching actors for auditions and things like that and I found that I really loved it and tended to have a good track record of tracking of coaching people and having them get stuff. So my website they can look, you guys. Thank you for watching, first of all, but second of all, if you go to my website, you'll find more information about hiring me to coach you for your next audition.
Speaker 3:
1:18:21
So yeah, Well, everything you need to find Jessica and her work will be in the show notes of this episode, as well as the Linktree link for everything Wait For A Podcast, so make sure you keep up with us over there.
Speaker 3:
1:18:34
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Speaker 1:
1:19:17
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Speaker 1:
1:20:13
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