SPEAKER_01
0:59
Welcome
to
the
Touchdown
Jaguars
Podcast.
Here
are
your
hosts,
James
Johnson
and
Phil
Smith.
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1:08
All
right,
good
people.
Welcome
back
to
the
Touchdown
Jaguars
Podcast
for
episode
141.
I
am
your
host
for
today,
James
Johnson.
We'll
ride
this
one
solo
and
we'll
get
Phil
back
on
the
next
episode,
which
will
be
episode
uh
142.
And
um,
yeah,
we'll
get
his
thoughts
and
whatnot
on
the
draft.
But
for
the
time
being,
I
will
manage
solo
Dolo
here
as
he
had
some
things
to
take
care
of.
Um,
but
you
all
know
me,
uh,
it's
never
an
issue
to
do
a
solo
pod.
And
that
is
exactly
what
we
will
do.
Sorry
for
the
delay,
by
the
way,
on
the
um
the
draft
here.
Of
course,
that's
going
to
be
the
theme
of
this
episode,
right?
We're
getting
to
the
draft
a
week
after
it's
already
passed.
But
still,
nonetheless,
we
couldn't
leave
our
listeners
high
and
dry
in
regards
to
um
getting
you
a
podcast
out
about
the
draft
and
what
transpired
at
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
made
several
picks,
and
um,
a
lot
of
people
have
had
a
lot
to
say
about
those
picks.
So
we'll
get
into
all
of
that
later.
But
as
I
was
saying,
my
apologies
for
the
delay,
life
be
life
and
as
I
like
to
say
on
this
podcast.
But
fear
not
we're
here.
And
I
know
while
it
has
been
a
week
after
the
draft,
that
a
lot
of
you
all
still
want
to
hear
our
thoughts
and
whatnot,
or
um,
my
thoughts,
at
least
for
this
episode,
on
the
draft.
So
again,
we
just
didn't
want
to
leave
nobody
high
and
dry
in
that
regard.
And
um,
you
know,
we
have
so
many
faithful
listeners
who
we
appreciate,
and
uh,
it
just
would
be
doing
them
a
disservice
if
we
didn't
talk
about
the
NFL
draft.
So
before
we
get
into
that,
of
course,
um,
I
need
to
plug
all
our
information.
Um,
you
can
most
notably
find
us
on
Twitter
and
Instagram,
that's
where
we're
most
active
at.
Uh,
but
we'll
just
plug
the
Twitter
handles
for
the
sake
of
this
episode.
Um,
you
can
follow
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at
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underscore
done
Phil
at
Phil
the
Filipino,
who
again,
uh
my
co-host
Phil
Barrera,
will
be
joining
me
next
week.
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And
um
also
you
could
also
feel
free
to
follow
our
site,
touchdownjads.com,
which
I
hope
to
get
some
scouting
reports
on
um
on
these
draft
picks
eventually.
Um,
as
I
have
seen
film
on
everybody
up
until
round
three.
And
then
the
rest
of
the
draft
picks,
um,
I've
only
seen
like
highlights
of,
or
I've
probably
seen
a
game
of
them
last
year
when
I
was
just
watching
TV,
watching
a
game
live
or
whatever,
some
college
football
live.
Um,
but
all
of
that
said,
I've
seen
enough,
especially
of
the
early
draft
picks,
uh,
to
where
I
felt
like
I
could
do
an
episode.
And
of
course,
with
the
guys
in
the
fourth
round
and
you
know,
the
undrafted
guys,
eventually
I
will
watch
film
on
them
too,
and
we
could
go
more
in
depth
on
them
um
later,
but
we'll
just
kind
of
like
we
won't
go
as
in
depth
with
them
right
now.
We'll
mention
them
and
you
know
what
it
means
for
the
team
and
what
have
you.
But
um,
yeah,
I
don't
expect
it
to
be
um
long
and
drawn
out
when
I
start
getting
to
the
guys
from
the
fourth
round
and
afterwards.
Also,
before
we
get
into
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And
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Um,
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man,
they
they
broke
my
heart,
but
that's
okay,
man.
We'll
bounce
back.
We
got
our
two
first
round
picks,
uh,
but
not
to
veer
away
from
the
topic
of
football.
But
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this
summer.
All
right,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
So
let's
get
right
on
into
this
draft.
Um,
as
the
2026
draft
has
concluded,
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
had
a
total
of
uh
let
me
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
the
number
right
here
of
how
many
picks
they
had
here.
They
had,
let's
see,
one,
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight,
nine,
ten
selections
that
they
made.
And
they
made
a
selection
in
each
round,
aside
from
the
first
round.
Of
course,
we
didn't
have
a
first
round
pick
because
um,
you
know,
we
gave
that
up
for
the
Travis
Hunter
trade.
And
we'll
just
get
right
into
the
first
pick
that
we
had
of
the
night.
A
highly
anticipated
pick
because,
as
I
mentioned,
we
didn't
have
a
first
round
pick.
And
um,
you
know,
it
was
the
first
time
in
team
history
that
that
had
happened.
And,
you
know,
after
the
summer
that
we
we
went
through
and
the
success
we
had
last
year,
um,
we
knew
that
this
second
round
pick
would
be
important,
although
this
wasn't
the
best
draft
class.
So
um,
you
know,
of
course,
in
a
draft
class
like
that,
you
want
to
have
your
first
round
pick
so
you
could
get
um
a
starter.
And
we
kind
of
talked
about
that
too
in
the
past,
right
on
this
podcast,
is
where
the
Jaguars
were
picking,
they
likely
weren't
gonna
get
a
start.
And
a
lot
of
people
um
I
feel
like
needed
to
just
have
that
understanding
going
into
the
draft.
And
it
looks
like
that
was
not
the
case
when
looking
at
everybody's
or
not
everybody,
but
a
lot
of
people's
thoughts
on
um
this
pick
and
the
rest
of
the
picks
as
well.
So
we
we
tried
to
tell
you
guys,
and
James
Gladstone
um
even
tried
to
warn
you
guys
in
advance
in
terms
of
it's
a
lot
of
this
talk
about
the
consists,
uh,
the
consensus
draft
board
and
what
have
you.
James
Gladstone
said
it,
hey
man,
we
might
veer
away
from
who
you
are
seeing
us
pick
in
these
mock
drafts
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
And
the
league
in
general
is
kind
of
getting
away
from
that
as
well.
And
I,
you
know,
I've
always
told
people,
you
know,
um,
shoutouts
to
my
nephew.
Um
he
was
in
the
thread
as
well
as
we
made
the
pick,
and
he
was
upset
about
it
at
first.
Um,
I
think
he's
kind
of
warming
up
to
it
now.
But
um,
you
know,
I've
told
people
for
many,
many
years,
like,
hey,
the
the
draft
boards
that
these
teams
have,
that
the
32
teams
have,
don't
necessarily
sync
up
with
the
consensus
draft
boards
that
you
see
um
that
consensus
uh
draft
gurus
come
up
with
from
you
know
your
ESPNs
and
CBS
sports
and
what
have
you,
you
know,
all
of
those
guys,
Bleacher
Report,
they
all
come
together,
come
to
a
consensus
draft
board.
Um,
but
the
teams,
the
32
teams,
might
not
necessarily,
or
their
draft
boards
might
not
necessarily
sync
up
with
these
draft
boards.
And
when
that
doesn't
happen,
what
you
have
is
you
know
um
a
lot
of
players
getting
taken,
and
that
was
the
case
for
the
Jaguars
draft,
um,
a
little
bit
earlier
than
we
were
expecting,
right?
But
make
no
mistake
about
it,
the
league
wasn't
shocked
by
what
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
did
to
a
degree,
right?
Because
they
had
these
players
kind
of
ranked
in
a
similar
way,
probably,
at
least
some
of
the
teams
did,
as
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars.
So
it's
a
little
bit
less
of
a
surprise
for
them.
And
you
kind
of
heard
that
throughout
the
week,
especially
with
this
first
pick
that
we
made
here.
Um,
it
was
pick
number
56,
which
we'll
get
into
a
little
bit.
Um,
but
there
was
a
um
T-Wig,
uh,
he
shared
a
little
nugget
where
um
there
was
a
gentleman
that
works
for
Lock
Thorn
that
was
in
Pittsburgh
during
the
draft,
and
I
think
it
was
the
Pittsburgh
Steelers
tight
ends
coach
that
had
a
little
bit
to
say
when
the
Jaguars
took
this
young
man,
and
um
his
thoughts
were,
hey,
yeah,
I
really
like
that
kid,
right?
And
then
you
saw
the
run
of
tight
ends
that
went
to
after
the
Jaguars
took
him.
And
there
was,
you
know,
there's
a
rumor
out
there
that
the
Texans
were
gonna
take
him
too.
So
it
was
no
way
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
were
gonna
let
um
their
division
rival
get
somebody
they
really,
really
like.
So
let's
get
into
it
here
in
terms
of
that
pick.
Um,
you
know,
like
with
this
podcast,
I
don't
want
to
make
it
too,
too
long.
I
could
probably
speak
on
the
guys
in
the
first
three
rounds
more,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
um,
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
than
the
guys
that
were
in
the
fourth
rounds
and
afterwards.
But
still,
I
don't
want
to
make
this
a
long
podcast
for
you
all
to
listen
to,
but
at
the
same
time,
I'll
do
my
best
to
um
give
my
best
in-depth
analysis
on
these
players.
But
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
took
with
number
uh
with
pick
number
56,
Nate
Birkacher.
Um,
I
mess
his
name
up
all
the
time.
It's
gonna
take
a
little
bit
to
get
used
to,
but
uh
Nate
Birkacher,
uh
tight
end
from
Texas
AM.
As
I
said,
um
uh
a
very
um
controversial
pick,
at
least
in
the
Jazz
community.
When
you
look
at
all
of
the
mock
drafts
that
we
were
putting
out
as
a
Jaguars
community,
I'm
not
talking
about
people
outside
and
even
people
outside
of
our
um
our
circle
too
and
our
bubble
as
well.
Um,
nobody
had
Nate
Burke
going
to
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars,
and
I
didn't
see
any
mock
drafts.
It
might
be
some
out
there,
but
I
didn't
see
any
with
him
going
in
the
second
round,
and
that
has
caused
a
lot
of
discussion,
which
I
have
already
uh
mentioned
before.
Of
course,
you
know,
a
lot
of
us
felt
that
the
Jacksville
Jaguars
needed
a
tight
end,
but
nobody
was
expecting
us
to
take
one
that
early.
Um,
but
when,
and
James
Gladstone
talked
about
this,
when
he
realized
um
where
the
league
is
going
in
terms
of
using
12
and
13
personnel,
and
you
know,
they
are
a
little
bit
more
in
tune
with
what
other
teams
might
do
than
us,
right?
A
lot
of
times
we
can
see
it
and
we've
seen
it
in
the
Jaguars
little
draft
documentaries
or
in
the
hunt
at
times,
like
when
Trent
Balkey
was
here.
Um,
you
know,
he
would
say,
like,
you
know,
they're
gonna
take
this
person.
And
when
I
say
there,
he's
talking
about
the
other
teams.
And
you
know,
a
lot
of
times
he
would
be
right.
So
the
good
GMs,
and
not
saying
Trent
Balkey
was
a
good
one,
he's
far
from
it,
but
um,
you
know,
knowledgeable
GMs,
should
I
say,
do
know
or
can
kind
of
pinpoint
what
other
teams
are
gonna
do,
not
at
a
100%
rate
or
not
get
the
whole
order
of
these
players
right,
but
they
could
tell
when
somebody's
on
the
clock,
like,
hey,
they
might
go
this
route,
they
might
go
that
route.
And
that's
kind
of
what
um
affected
James
Gladstone's
decision
to
go
ahead
and
get
Burkature.
Of
course,
like
again,
you
know,
there
were
concerns
that
he
might
go
to
the
Texans,
as
I
mentioned.
And
when
you
start
talking
about
that
in
a
division,
rival
getting
a
player
you
really,
really
covet,
you
can't
have
that.
And
James
Gladstone
took
this
guy
as
a
result.
And
Burkatcher
is
a
guy
who
um
he
started
his
career
at
Nebraska
from
2020
to
2024.
And
you
know,
the
big
discussion
about
him
is
he
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
catches
to
his
name.
His
last
year
at
Texas
AM,
he
only
had
19
catches
for
198
in
terms
of
receiving
yards
and
three
touchdowns.
Total
in
his
career,
he's
caught
38
career
passes
for
417
yards.
Uh
6'5,
245
pounds.
Again,
started
his
career
in
Nebraska.
He's
from
Nebraska.
Um,
so
that
was
like
a
dream
come
true
for
him.
He
kind
of
mentioned
that
um
in
at
least
one
of
his
um
his
interviews
with
the
media.
Um
went
there
from
2020
to
2024,
eventually
transferred
to
Texas
AM,
who
use
a
wide
array
of
um
tight
ends.
You
know,
they
got
a
big
depth
chart
of
tight
ends,
and
they
use
a
variety
of
tight
ends.
Um,
but
yeah,
uh
transferred
to
Texas
AM
for
the
2025
season.
And
um,
in
terms
of
my
notes,
I
watched,
I
think
two
games
of
them.
I
probably
seen
more
than
two
games
of
them,
honestly,
when
considering
the
games
that
I
just
watched,
like
college
football
games
that
I
watched
last
year,
just
watching
them,
you
know,
as
a
like
not
for
film
study
purposes,
but
just
watching
TV
as
you
you
like
to
do
on
a
weekend
in
the
fall,
right?
Um,
so
I
probably
seen
them
a
lot
more
than
my
mind
can
recollect.
But
um,
in
terms
of
my
you
know,
my
notes,
I
saw
a
player
who,
despite
all
of
the
jokes,
and
they
they
probably
were
just
like
literally
joking
about
this,
you
know,
people
online
and
on
Twitter.
Um,
but
despite
the
jokes
about
his
stats
and
how
hard
people
were
trying
to
put
it
out
there
that
it
would
be
to
find
his
um
his
stats.
And
I
think
Phil
even
made
a
joke
about
it
too,
man.
That's
what
Phil
does,
man,
right?
Shoutouts
to
Phil.
Um,
but
despite
that,
man,
upon
turning
on
my
first
like
game
of
him,
um,
it
was
not
hard
to
find
um
out
why
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
won
this
young
man
like
in
the
first
drive,
and
I
forgot
the
game.
It
was
actually
it
was
the
Florida
Gators,
because
I
love
watching
the
Florida
Gators
get
their
behinds
beat,
right?
Y'all
you
all
know
my
history
as
a
Georgia
Bulldog
fan.
So
um
that
was
one
of
the
first
games,
like
full
games,
because
I
like
to
watch
full
games
and
not
like
highlights,
but
that
was
one
of
the
first
full
games
I
could
find
to
evaluate
Birkature,
and
I
think
I
went
to
that
game
too
because
um
that
was
one
of
his
higher
graded
games
on
PFF.
I
had
to
pull
out
the
PFF
stats
and
whatnot.
Um,
but
yeah,
I
watched
the
game
with
Florida,
first
drive
man.
Um,
he
goes
back
into
the
backfield,
and
um
he's
playing
as
an
H
back.
So
that's
one
of
the
you
know
the
key
elements
to
his
game
and
why
he
was
drafted
is
the
versatility.
But
he
goes
into
the
backfield
as
an
H
back.
Um
and
they
go
in
like
an
I
formation
on
the
goal
line.
He
clears
a
path
for
the
running
back.
Running
back
gets
in
there
pretty
easily.
Uh
so
that
that
speaks
for
his
physicality
and
his
ability
to
block,
which
is
a
big
reason
he
was
um
drafted,
and
a
lot
of
scouting
reports
mention
his
blocking
ability
um
as
an
inline
blocker.
That
also
goes
back
to
what
I
was
saying
as
an
H
back
two
when
he
he
did
that
as
well.
But
as
an
inline
blocker,
man,
I
saw
a
physical
young
man
who
was
able
to
um
move
people
off
the
ball
relatively
easy.
A
lot
of
times
when
the
ball
was
um,
you
know,
when
the
ball
carrier,
um
the
running
back,
went
to
his
side,
he
would
end
up
with
three,
four,
five,
six
yards,
you
know.
Like,
and
I
think
like
this
is
something
that
the
team
and
the
front
office
evaluated
last
year
and
said
that
they
wanted
to
get
better
with.
And
when
I
say
they,
I
mean
what
I'm
talking
about
here
and
I'm
alluding
to
here
is
um
the
physicality
and
moving
people
off
the
ball
and
being
able
to
run
the
ball
a
little
bit
better
than
we
previously
were.
Now,
look,
we
ran
the
ball
um
a
lot
better
than
we
did
um
when
Trent
Balkey
was
here
um
last
year
in
2025,
and
we
even
drafted
two
running
backs,
and
we
got
a
new
running
back
in
Rodriguez
this
year
in
free
agency.
So
we
ran
the
ball
better
than
we
previously
did,
but
you
can
still
tell
that
improvement
was
needed,
right?
And
you
know,
I
I
hate
to
keep
harping
on
the
man
and
going
back
to
him,
but
a
lot
of
what
is
going
on
with
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars,
you
have
to
go
back
to
Trent
Balkey,
and
he
was
a
big
time
issue
for
this
team.
And
the
reason
I'm
going
back
to
him
is
because
so
the
thing
about
Trent
Balkey,
and
I
might
have
said
this
on
the
podcast,
right,
is
he
got
caught
up
in
all
of
this
thing,
like
the
these
things
like
traits
and
physical
ability.
So,
like
our
team
would
literally,
and
we've
heard
people
say
this,
the
analysts
and
all
of
these
people
say
it.
Uh
Chris
Sims
was
one
of
them
who
said
it.
Like,
you
look
at
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
and
they
look
like
the
more
physically
imposing
team,
nine
times
out
of
ten
in
terms
of
when
they
line
up
against
another
team,
right?
They
have
the
look,
right?
And
that's
what
Balkey,
you
know,
Balky
kind
of
made
the
roster
that
way
because
he's
so
caught
up
in
traits
and
height
and
weight,
right?
Um,
so
nine
times
out
of
ten,
we
go
on
the
field
looking
like
the
more
physical
team.
But
as
the
game
went
on,
it
was
clear,
you
know,
at
least
in
his
regime
and
his
time
here,
that
we
weren't
the
more
the
more
physical
team.
And
the
reason
I
bring
this
up
is
because
you
know
what
it
reminds
me
of?
Like
when,
and
and
a
lot
of
us
can
kind
of
reflect
on
this
and
kind
of
um
draw
a
parallel
to
this.
Like,
you
know,
when
you
were
like
in
high
school,
right?
And
you
see
a
team
across
the
field
that
you're
going
against,
you
know,
whoever
you're
playing,
and
you
watch
them
on
film
the
week
before,
and
they
look
like
the
bigger,
physically,
more
uh
more
physically
imposing
team.
They
got
some
D1
prospects
on
their
right,
all
of
this
good
stuff,
but
they
clearly
look
like
the
bigger
team,
bigger
than
the
team
that
you
play
on
before
you
take
the
field.
We'll
just
use
football
for
an
example,
or
you
can
use
basketball
before
you
take
the
court,
whatever
the
case
may
be.
But
when
you
get
on
the
field
and
you
get
about
two
quarters
in,
right?
Or
three
quarters
in,
and
you
look
at
the
scoreboard,
and
the
scoreboard's
dead
even,
or
you're
down
by,
you
know,
just
one
touchdown,
or
um,
you're
down
by
three
points
if
you
just,
you
know,
you
get
in
halftime.
We're
talking
about
basketball
if
you
want
to
make
a
basketball
parallel,
and
it
starts
to
dawn
on
you,
right?
That
this
team
that
we're
facing,
while
they're
bigger
than
us,
and
they
got
a
lot
of
D1
potential
prospects
and
D1
prospects
on
this
team,
they're
not
a
team
that's
unbeatable.
And
we
got
a
chance
and
we
could
beat
this
team.
And
we
got
so
caught
up
in
the
look
of
this
team
to
the
point
where
it's
like,
hey,
this
team
is
not
all
as
hyped
up
to
be,
and
it's
not
all
um
not
all
as
intimidating
as
you
know
we
thought
they
would
be.
And
then
by
the
fourth
quarter,
you
end
up
winning
the
game.
We
all
can
kind
of
relate
to
something
like
that
where
you
go
on
the
field
or
the
hardwood
court,
caught
up
and
a
little
bit
intimidated
by
the
team
that
you're
playing,
and
then
you
come
to
find
out
like
they're
a
little
bit
softer
than
you
thought
they
were,
right?
That
was
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars,
right?
We
had
the
look.
And
again,
I
think
I've
talked
about
this
in
the
past.
We
had
the
look.
But
when
teams
lined
up
against
us
and
got
on
the
field
and
started
playing
us
and
getting
a
feel
for
us,
it
became
clear
in
their
minds,
like,
this
team
is
just
a
big
team
that
we
can
outperform.
And
heck,
it's
the
NFL.
So,
like,
most
of
these
players
knew
it
before
they
even
took
the
field
because
of
watching
the
film
on
them,
right?
Like,
look,
they
are
they're
all
Bart
but
no
bite
type
of
thing.
That
was
Trent
Balkey's
thing.
He
built
the
all
Bart
but
no
bite
type
of
team,
and
this
next
regime
has
to
clean
that
up,
right?
So
you
have
a
team
that
has
to
draft
a
Nate
Borkatcher
after
Trent
Balkey
had
already
drafted
a
guy
in
Brenton
Strange.
And
the
funny
thing
about
it
is
the
reason
that
he
drafted,
remember
when
they
drafted
Brenton
Strange
and
Tank
Bigsby,
it
was
because
we
needed
more
physicality,
right?
He
failed
so
massively
at
making
the
team
more
physical.
The
next
regime
is
literally
have
to
is
having
to
go
back
and
clean
up
what
he
missed
on,
and
he
didn't
miss
on
strange.
I'm
just
saying
he
missed
on
the
element
of
making
this
team
more
physical,
right?
They're
having
to
go
through
a
lot
of
the
same
process
that
he
had
to
go
through
making
the
more
the
team
more
physical
because
he
failed
massively
at
that.
And
here
we
are,
and
that,
you
know,
I
didn't
want
to
go
down
memory
lane,
but
that
is
why
you
see
picks
like
this
and
the
rest
of
these
picks
as
well,
where
Trent
Balk
just
failed
on
the
physicality
part
of
it,
right?
And
this
next
regime
has
to
fix
that.
But
Burkatcher
was
a
guy
who
um,
you
know,
did
not
struggle
to
move
people
off
the
ball,
did
not
struggle
to
help
his
running
back
gain,
you
know,
four
to
five
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
yards
when
the
ball
um
was
ran
or
uh
run
to
his
side.
You
know,
he
to
me,
he
felt
like
a
heavy-handed
tight
end
in
terms
of
uh
when
it
came
to
blocking.
Um,
he
has
good
range
too
in
terms
of
the
catching.
He
has
limited
catches,
but
he
could
clearly
catch.
And
they
should
have
used
him
more
than
they
did
in
terms
of
the
passing
game
at
Texas
AM.
Because
he
has
soft
hands
and
he
has
good
range.
And
a
lot
of
his
catches
were,
you
know,
catches
where
he
had
to
go
well
beyond
his
body
to
catch
them,
right?
But
again,
what
you
see
in
college
and
you
know,
I
see
this
a
lot
in
Georgia,
right?
Um,
is
where
a
lot
of
these
great
players
don't
get
used
to
the
best
of
their
ability
or
get
used
at
the
the
the
thing
that
they
excel
in
the
most,
right?
Or
I
don't
even
want
to
say
excel
in
in
the
most
in
um
in
Nate's
case,
but
they
don't
get
to
showcase
a
skill
set
that
they
have
um
as
much
as
they
should
have
uh
received
the
opportunity
to.
And
again,
I
see
this
a
lot
with
Georgia,
where
they
have
so
many
five-star
recruits,
right?
Where
it
just
gets
to
a
point
where
the
the
five-star
recruiting
the
player,
especially
on
defense,
we
kind
of
seen
that
with
that
historic
Georgia
defense,
right?
Um,
where
you're
just
so
willing
to
get
on
the
field
to
the
point
you
don't
care
if
the
position
that
you're
playing
is
one
that
doesn't
showcase
your
talent
as
as
well
as
it
should.
Because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
know
the
NFL
scouts
are
still
gonna
sift
through
it
and
find
out
what
you
you're
good
at
anyway
on
their
own,
right?
So,
like
some
of
these
players
don't
put
a
lot
into
playing
a
position
where
they
get
to
show
their
talents
as
much
as
they
would
like
because
again,
as
I
said,
the
NFL
eventually
will
figure
it
out
for
them.
But
it's
it's
it's
a
lot
of
times
where
you
see
so
much
talent
on
the
field
where
these
players
just
had
to
play
where
they
could
play,
right?
Where
there's
a
spot
available.
And
that
Georgia
defense
that
I
just
mentioned
was
like
that.
Trayvon
Walker
was
a
prime
example,
man.
We
didn't
really
get
to
see
Trayvon
Walker
rush
the
passer
like
he's
rushing
the
passer
in
in
the
NFL
right
now.
You
know,
it
was
a
situation
where
the
scouts
had
to
see
it
for
themselves,
see
his
potential
for,
you
know,
see
that
potential
for
themselves
and
say,
like,
hey,
you
know,
he
didn't
get
to
rush
the
passer
as
much
as
he
should
have.
But
we've
seen
glimpses
and
flashes
of
it
on
when
he
does.
And
this
is
something
that,
you
know,
as
he
gets
more
repetition
with,
he'll
only
become
better
with.
And
we
feel
comfortable
with
taking
him
off
of
that
potential
alone,
although,
you
know,
we
haven't
seen
it
as
much
as
we
would
have
liked,
right?
And
of
course,
that
was
a
big
deal
because,
you
know,
it
was
the
discussion
between
him
and
Aiden
Hutchison,
right?
And,
you
know,
lo
and
behold,
look,
he's
not
a
good
as
good
of
a
pass
rusher
as
Hutchinson,
but
he's
a
lot
better
at
it
than
we
saw
at
the
University
of
Georgia.
It's
the
kind
of
the
same
concept
that
they're
gonna
take
with
Nate
here,
is
they
see
the
potential
in
him
as
a
passing
threat,
and
they're
just
gonna
have
to
see
if
he
can
reach
that
potential
and
take
a
gamble
a
little
bit
as
a
pass
catcher
in
the
league,
and
they
think
he's
more
than
willing
to
do
it.
And
a
lot
of
it
is
also
this.
We
mentioned
this
on
the
podcast,
too,
is
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
just
have
faith
in
their
system,
not
just
their
schematic
system,
but
their
system
in
terms
of
the
coaches
they
have
to
draw
the
talent
out
of
Nate
Birkincher.
And
you
know,
we
have
a
former
Jaguar
that's
our
tight
ends
coaching
Richard
N'Gulo,
who
was
a
pretty
decent
receiver,
by
the
way.
Um,
so
I
feel
confident
that
he
can
get
um
the
receiving
skills
that
are
needed
out
of
Birkacher.
But
make
no
mistake
about
it,
like
they
got
him
again
for
12
and
13
personnel
purposes,
is
for
his
blocking
ability.
And
because
they
already
have
Brenton
Strange,
who
is
a
dual
thread
guy,
he
can
do
a
little
bit
of
everything.
Um,
but
when
when
you
look
at
where
the
league
is
heading,
the
Rams,
right?
And
these
other
teams,
getting
more
big
guys
on
the
field
that
can
move
is
how
you
get
the
edge
on
the
defenses
um
that
are
being
played
these
days,
which
you
know,
these
defenses
are
going
lighter
with
a
lot
of
nickel
and
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I
am
excited
about
this
pick.
Like
I
didn't
come
in
this
to
this
situation
when
the
grade
these
picks,
but
I
mean
if
you
made
me
give
it
a
grade,
I
would
say,
you
know,
maybe
for
now,
like
a
C
plus
or
a
B
minus,
right?
You
know,
because
of
the
um
the
ability
for
the
Jaguars
to
have
the
forethought
to
kind
of
look
into
the
future
and
when
the
league
is
going,
you
kind
of
have
to
give
the
pick
a
little
bit
better
of
a
grade
than
a
lot
of
the
analysts
are,
right?
So
when
you
factor
that
into
it,
I
think
I
would,
you
know,
grade
it
a
little
bit
higher
than
others.
But
yeah,
man,
um
I
can't
wait
to
see
this
young
man
and
uh
what
he
brings
to
the
table.
And
um,
I
I
think
you
know
he's
gonna
fit
right
in
and
he's
gonna
bring
us
that.
And
and
that's
another
thing.
There's
so
many
people
so
upset
with
the
pick,
man.
This
dude
embodies
Duval,
man,
like
a
small
country
guy.
I
mean,
I
would
have
to
think
he's
from
the
country
because
he,
you
know,
he
went
to
he
was
from
Nebraska,
right?
A
small
country
guy,
man,
that
brings
that,
you
know,
uh
that
lunch
pale
mentality
to
work,
man.
He
was
a
walk-on
for
crying
out
loud.
So
he
worked
hard
to
get
where
he
was,
and
he
was
a
walk-on
when
he
went
to
Texas
AM
too,
and
you
know,
eventually
found
himself
getting
on
the
field
and
and
making
some
noise,
man.
But
this
guy
embodies
Duval,
man.
So
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
as
to
why.
And
it
and
again,
it
might
be
where
he
was
taken.
You
know,
people
might
feel
like
he
should
have
been
taken
later
in
the
draft,
but
I
just
explained
why
that
couldn't
happen
because
the
Texans
probably
would
have
snagged
him.
But
um,
yeah,
man,
this
is
a
guy
that,
like,
you
know,
if
you
truly
got
Duval
in
your
heart,
man,
I
don't
see
why
you
wouldn't
embrace
this
kid.
And
I
don't
see
why
you
wouldn't
believe
that
this
kid
can
reach
his
full
potential.
So
we'll
go
on
to
the
next
pick.
Um,
I
spent
a
more
time
than
I
wanted
to
on
that
one.
Um,
but
you
know,
it
was
a
lot
to
talk
about
because
that
was
the
most
controversial
one.
We'll
go
right
into
it
and
we'll
try
and
make
these
other
ones
a
little
bit
speedier
here.
Uh,
Albert
Regis,
um,
we
got
a
DT
also
from
Texas
AM.
The
Jaguars
took
him
number
81
overall.
They
traded
up
um
with
a
team.
I
forgot
who
I
think
it
was
the
Panthers
that
they
traded
up
uh
with
to
get
him
um
to
take
him
81st
overall.
Albert
Regis,
um
6'1,
295
pounds.
We
all
knew
that
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars,
and
we
had
been
like
just
discussing
it
heavily
because
it's
such
an
important
position
at
peace
for
the
Jaguars
to
get
over
the
hump,
is
you
know,
get
a
defensive
tackle
who
could
rush
the
passer.
Um,
but
yeah,
um
6'1,
295
pounds,
played
with
AM
from
2021
to
2025,
um,
register
a
career
of
3.5
sacks,
so
he
wasn't
a
sack
heavy
guy.
And
that
was
because
he
was
playing
a
lot
of
nose
tackles.
So
just
think
like
he's
he
was
serving
the
Devon
Hamilton
role
for
this
defense.
Again,
you
just
have
to
get
on
the
field
however
you
can,
wherever
there's
a
spot,
even
though
even
if
it
doesn't
showcase
your
abilities
and
you
know
what
you're
best
at.
You
just
have
to
take
a
spot
on
the
field
and
get
on
the
field
where
you
can,
especially
with
a
a
team
loaded
with
defensive
talent
like
Texas
AM,
right?
Um,
but
yeah,
uh
he
got
two
of
his
uh
sacks
in
2025.
Um,
he
got
three
tackles
for
a
loss.
Uh
he
had
also
10
pass
breakups,
and
um
nine
of
those
came
over
the
last
two
seasons.
This
is
a
young
man
who
um
I
think
it
was
the
um
NFL
Stock
Exchange
podcast,
shoutouts
to
them.
Um,
or
it
could
have
been
another
podcast,
but
I'm
I
might
be
putting
this
on
the
wrong
podcast.
But
if
it
was
the
uh
NFL
Stock
Exchange
Exchange,
shout
outs
to
them.
Um,
but
it
was
somebody
saying,
like,
you
know,
Regis's
role
with
this
defense,
and
it
was
it
was
funny.
The
I
watched
Regis
um
in
two
games
too,
because
all
I
had
to
do
when
I
was
walking
uh
watching
Nate
is
turn
to
the
defensive
side
of
the
ball
and
watch
him
as
well.
So
I
watched
the
same
game
for
both
players,
but
um
I
was
just
simply
saying
it
was
a
podcast
out
there
or
a
media
uh
entity
that
mentioned
that
you
know
a
lot
of
what
will
make
you
fascinated
with
Regis
here
is
that
he
did
a
lot
of
the
dirty
work
to
free
up
all
of
these
guys
we
had
been
talking
about
in
the
draft
coming
to
us,
right?
All
of
these
other
players
that's
on
that
Texas
AM
defense.
Um
he
he
freed
them
up
in
terms
of
doing
all
of
the
dirty
work
for
them.
And
um,
in
terms
of
him,
though,
like
on
in
terms
of
the
notes
that
I
have
here,
man,
right
off
the
rip,
you
you
you
can
see
the
good
pursuit,
man.
Like
he'll
chase
a
quarterback
all
the
way
to
freaking
Palatka
if
he
had
to
when
he
takes
that
field,
man.
But
just
his
motor
is
always
going,
always
in
pursuit
of
the
quarterback,
regardless
of
how
wide
the
play
goes,
or
not
even
just
the
quarterback,
but
the
running
back,
man,
just
always
running
to
the
ball
full
speed,
man.
This
guy
only
has
one
gear.
But
that
was
one
thing
that
stood
out
to
me.
Uh,
he
was
good
at
holding
the
point
of
attack.
And
this
is
something
Liam
kind
of
mentioned
too,
but
I
I
noticed
it
on
film
as
well.
Um,
even
though,
you
know,
you
could
say
this
guy
was
undersized
to
be
a
nose
tackle,
but
um,
when
you
are
6'1
and
you
you
have
the
lower
body
strength
and
you
can
stay
low
to
the
ground,
uh,
you
can
survive
at
nose
tackle,
right?
And
that
that's
what
you
know
he
did
there
at
Texas
AM.
Um,
but
yeah,
even
when
he
was
doubled
man,
he
was
good
at
holding
his
own.
We
all
saw
the
East
West
Shrine
game
cuts
of
him
as
well
um
doing
his
thing.
And
you
kind
of
can
see
like
the
pass
rushing
aspect
that
he
can
bring
to
a
team
in
those
cuts.
But
a
lot
of
people
think,
you
know,
he'll
more
so
be
a
three-technique.
Again,
the
pass
rushing
ability
isn't
there
yet.
But
James
Gladstone
talked
about
this,
right?
In
terms
of
a
lot
of
these
defensive
tackles
typically
just
come
into
the
league
as
uh
um
dominant
run
stuff
or
more
so
than
um
uh
a
dominant
pass
rusher,
and
they
kind
of
have
to
learn
how
to
become
a
dominant
pass
rusher
in
the
league.
So,
not
even
shocked
that
they
took
this
young
man
just
based
on
what
James
Gladstone
said.
It
was
all
in
the
tea
leaves,
and
we
just
had
to
listen
to
the
freaking
draft
um
conversation
that
he
had
at
the
draft
luncheon
with
the
media.
Um,
I
also
like
his,
you
know,
he
had
solid
time
in
his
disengagement
with
offensive
linemen
too.
So
he
did
a
good
job
of
just
kind
of
watching
the
running
back,
watching
the
quarterback
um
while
they
were
in
the
backfield
and
timing
his
disengagement.
And
this
is
a
guy
I
just
simply,
you
know,
I
can't
wait
uh
to
see
him
pair
with
Rukh
Aurora
and
see
if
they
can
provide
that
pass
rush
that
we
need.
Um,
I
definitely
think
Ruke,
even
though
Rukay
is
pretty
young
himself,
um,
can
help
him
in
that
regard
and
you
know
help
school
him
up.
And
a
lot
of
these
um,
these
the
the
coaches,
of
course,
and
the
veterans
too
as
well.
I
think
he
can
learn
a
lot
from
Devon
Hamilton
as
well.
But
he's
another
guy
who,
you
know,
as
the
Jaguars
like
to
say,
they
were
hunting
up
that
they
really,
really
liked.
They
spoke
highly
of.
And
when
you
you
you
hear
him
talk
to
the
media,
you
can
just
absolutely
feel
the
Jaguar
DNA
in
him
in
terms
of
what
they
look
for,
right?
Intangibly
rich.
Um,
you
know,
he
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
look.
He
probably
was
a
team
captain,
which
you
know
that's
significant
on
a
Texas
AM
squad
that
was
as
loaded
as
you
know,
they
were
um
highly
intelligent,
young
man,
family
man
as
well,
off
the
field,
already
got
a
kid,
and
um
he's
married
as
well.
As
you
all
saw
the
video,
his
little
girl
chose
the
Jaguar
Cup.
They
they
put
her
on
the
floor
to
let
her
crawl
to
whatever
team
that
she
um
wanted
her
dad
to
go
to,
right?
And
um,
you
know,
he
ended
up
going
to
the
Jaguar.
So
that's
an
incredible,
incredible
story
there.
Um,
welcome
to
Jacksonville,
by
the
way,
little
one.
Uh,
you
did
good.
You
did
good,
and
you
you
did
see
the
future,
like
uh
Raven,
Raven
Simone,
and
that's
so
Raven.
But
yeah,
Albert
Regis
is
not
a
guy,
you
know,
like
that,
you
know,
I
was
thinking
that
they
would
go
with
when
considering
what
was
on
the
board,
right?
Grayson
Holton
on
the
board.
Um,
I
think
the
McClellan
kid
was
still
there
as
well,
too.
Um,
so
you
know,
that
kind
of
threw
me
off.
But
again,
once
I
heard
him
talk
and
watched
his
film
and
um,
you
know,
he
had
his
meeting
with
the
media,
it
then
became
clear
to
me,
okay,
like,
you
know,
the
Jaguars
are
doing,
not
only
are
they
doing
things
their
way,
but
this
guy
does
have
um
that
Jaguar
DNA.
Um,
he's
a
guy
that
I
could
absolutely
see
Tony
Boselli,
even
though
Tony
Boselli
was
an
offensive
lineman,
really
loving
and
banging
the
table
for.
So
I
wouldn't
be
shocked
if
Boselli
loved
him.
Of
course,
I
know
that
Gladstone
and
Liam
did
as
well,
but
um
time
will
tell
if
he
can
provide
that
push
in
the
pocket
and
learn
to
become
a
better
pass
rusher
in
terms
of
when
he's
in
the
league.
But
again,
with
how
the
Jaguar
system
worked,
they
clearly
believe
that
the
coaches
can
get
the
talent
out
of
him.
And
you
know,
when
looking
at
his
career,
there's
nothing
that
says
that
they
couldn't
get
the
talent
out
of
him
with
his
hard
work
ethic
and
um
just
his
commitment
to
the
game
of
football.
All
right,
so
next
we'll
get
into
the
next
pick
after
Regis.
And
now
we'll
start
kind
of
rattling
through
him
a
little
bit
quicker.
The
next
pick
that
the
Jaguars
had
was
a
pick
number
88.
This
was
probably
everybody's
favorite
pick
of
the
draft,
Emmanuel
Pregnant,
who
I
thought
would
not
be
available
when
the
Jaguars
picked
in
the
second
round,
let
alone
the
third
round.
So
I
feel
like
they
struck
goal,
and
many
people
agree
with
that.
Uh,
so
this
is
something
that
we
all
are
a
lot
of
us
are
on
the
same
page
with
in
terms
of
the
Jazz
community,
and
even
the
national
pundits
really
like
this
pick.
But
you
all
already
heard
me
talk
about
him,
you
know,
in
the
pod
before
last.
So
I
don't
really
need
to
go
into
detail
about
him.
But
you
know,
I
mentioned
his
physicality
and
just
a
straight
up
role
grader,
man.
And
like
he's
a
guy
that
I
literally
said
that
you
could
tell,
like,
he
is
not
going
to
be
cool
with
anybody
touching
Trevor
Lawrence
at
all,
in
any
way,
shape,
or
form.
They
asked
him
about
this.
Um,
or
no,
no,
they
didn't
ask
him
about
it.
The
media
did,
he
kind
of
mentioned
it,
man.
And
he
was
like,
Man,
look,
man,
basically,
in
a
nutshell,
I'm
just
paraphrasing,
I'm
not
gonna
play
that
about
anybody
touching
Trevor
Lawrence.
He's
not
gonna
have
to
worry
about
me
holding
down
things,
so
on
and
so
forth.
And
he
even
said,
quote
unquote,
when
I'm
on
the
field,
if
he
he
needs
to
sit
on
the
toilet
when
he's
in
the
pocket,
don't
want
to
gross
nobody
out.
But
um,
if
he
wanted
to
sit
on
the
toilet
when
I'm
uh
when
I'm
blocking
for
him,
if
he
wants
to
do
that
in
the
pocket,
I'm
gonna
allow
it.
So
again,
like
I
can
sense
that
before
we
even
drafted
him,
man.
You
can
sense
it
in
his
play
that
he
don't
play
about
his
quarterback,
man.
And
he
he's
mentioned
how
he
wants
to
impose
his
will
on
the
opposition.
You
see
it
in,
you
know,
how
he
play,
he
plays
after
the
whistle
sometimes,
right?
You
know,
and
of
course,
that
could
lead
to
penalties,
and
you
know,
you
have
to
have
control
chaos.
I'm
not
saying
this
guy's
gonna
be
a
penalty
machine,
but
it's
just
at
the
same
time,
you
like
to
see
that
a
little
bit.
You
like
to
see
that
extra
shove
after
the
whistle,
right,
man?
Um,
so
speaking
on
like
going
back
to
earlier
what
I
said
about
um
Nate,
I
think
that
Jazz
fans
will
especially
gravitate
to
pregnant
too,
um,
because
he's
just
kind
of
he's
got
that
gritty
Duvall
feel
to
him,
too,
that
fans
will
gravitate
towards.
So
um,
not
really
a
lot
to
talk
about
there,
man.
Like
they
needed
an
offensive
lineman,
man.
You
feel
like
I
would
feel
like
at
least,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
agree
that
um
he
probably
will
take
over
for
Patrick
McCari
because
you
know,
we've
said,
let's
face
it,
Patrick
McCari
has
been
a
bust
of
a
free
agent
pick,
even
though
he
does
give
you
versatility,
you
know
what
I'm
saying?
And
you
know,
he
does
give
you
depth
if
something
happens
to
a
starter.
Um,
but
it's
clear
that
he
don't
belong
in
the
starting
lineup,
and
he
played
way
too
much
in
the
starting
lineup
last
year,
and
they
paid
him
a
lot
of
money
to
be
a
starter,
but
he
just
he
he's
not
the
answer
at
right
guard.
So
I
would
like
to
see
Pregnant
take
his
spot
in
the
summer
if
that's
possible.
And
don't
forget,
we
got
you
know
Wyatt
Millam
last
year
as
well,
too.
So,
you
know,
maybe
he'll
battle
Ezra
Cleveland
on
the
other
side.
But
um,
you
know,
some
similarities
there
between
him
and
Millum
um
in
terms
of
the
physical
edge
they
play
with.
Uh
Millam
a
little
bit
more
versatile,
but
um,
you
can
see
the
type
alignment
that
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
like
when
you
look
at
those
two
selections.
If
I
didn't
state
pregnant,
um
he
went
to
the
University
of
Oregon
from
2023,
excuse
me,
2023
to
uh
actually
he
went
to
USC,
uh,
which
you
know,
of
course,
we
got
Tony
Boselli
who
has
ties
to
USC,
but
from
2023
to
2024,
he
went
to
USC.
Um,
and
then
in
2020
to
2022,
he
was
at
Wyoming.
He
played
his
last
year
at
Oregon
for
Dan
Lannon
and
company.
Very
familiar
with
Dan
Lannon.
Um,
from
he
was
formerly
the
defensive
coordinator
from
the
the
University
of
Georgia.
So
I'm
familiar
with
him
and
the
physicality
he
likes
his
players
to
play
with.
Pregnon,
and
I
mentioned
this
in
that
podcast
two
weeks
ago.
Pregnon
is
absolutely
a
Dan
Lannon,
Kirby
Smart
type
of
prospect
through
and
through
when
you
look
at
the
edge
that
he
plays
with.
Uh
so
in
2025,
he
was
all
Big
Ten
um
selection,
and
he
was
second
team
all
big
ten
in
2024.
He
is
the
third
player
from
Oregon
selected
by
the
Jaguars.
And
the
first
sense,
George
Ryster.
Y'all
remember
tight
end
George
Ryster
back
in
the
day?
Um,
but
this
is
a
huge
addition
for
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars,
and
you
gotta
feel
like
Trevor
Lawrence
absolutely
is
gonna
love
it.
And
um
also,
too,
you
know
what
how
they
want
to
run
the
ball
a
little
bit
better,
man.
Like
this
is
gonna
be
better
for
um
Lequent
and
Bachel
and
Rodriguez
as
well,
man.
You
you're
gonna
see
a
lot
of
good
gains
when
when
the
ball
is
being
um
ran
to
his
side,
man.
So
I
can't
wait,
man,
and
just
combining
his
skill
with
um
with
Nate's
man.
We
definitely
are
gonna
see
a
lot
more
physicality
in
the
trenches
on
the
offensive
side
of
the
ball
for
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars.
So,
in
terms
of
um,
I
kind
of
didn't
even
give
a
grade
for
these
two
picks.
Um,
I
gave
one
for
Nate,
but
not
Regis
and
Pregnant.
Uh
Regis,
I'll
give
a
similar
grade,
like
a
C,
um,
that
I
gave
to
Nate.
And
then
Pregnant
is
an
A
plus.
A
plus,
absolutely,
man.
Like
that
great
pick,
man.
Shocked
that
he
was
even
available
at
that
point.
Uh,
next
third
round
pick,
Jalen
Husky
from
the
University
of
Maryland.
Um,
he's
a
guy
that,
you
know,
he
kind
of
bounced
around
from
place
to
place,
but
last
year
was
at
Maryland
um
and
also
played
2024
there.
Um,
2022
to
2023,
he
was
at
Bowling
Green.
We
got
a
six
foot
one,
192-pound
prospect.
He's
played
some
cornerback.
I
think
he
played
cornerback
earlier
um
in
his
career.
Um,
the
games
that
I
watched
with
him,
I
think
was
Indiana,
the
full
game.
And
um
it
was
one
more
game
that's
escaping
me
right
now.
But
um,
he's
a
guy,
man,
that
you
can
you
can
absolutely
see
and
sense
the
physicality
he
plays
with.
Um,
he
is
a
high-energy
guy
as
well.
Um,
you
know,
similar
energy
to
like
a
Jarian
Jones,
right?
And
a
Jalen
Ramsey
tight
in
terms
of
the
energy
he
brings.
Great
at
reading
the
quarterback,
man,
always
keeping
his
eyes
on
the
quarterback
and
flowing
to
the
ball
while
doing
that.
Um,
doesn't
have
blazing
speed,
um,
but
did
a
good
job
of
keeping
things
in
front
of
him
in
the
scheme
that
he
played
in
in
Maryland.
Um,
and
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
key
as
to
why
he
liked
to
keep
things
in
front
of
him,
doesn't
have
blazing
speed,
you
know.
He's
a
guy
that
you
do
have
concerns
for
um
in
terms
of
he
will,
you
know,
I
don't
think
he
has
the
speed
to
veer
somebody
from
hitting
the
corner.
You
know,
that's
a
concern
with
him.
Um
but
when
you
look
at
him
in
comparison
to
a
lot
of
these
other
guys
we
were
looking
at
with
the
Jaguars
taking,
which
a
lot
of
us
had,
you
know,
the
Jaguars
taking
the
safety
with
this
pick
in
our
mock
drafts,
like
a
Genesis
Smith
and
uh
Ramsey
from
USC
and
what
have
you.
When
you
look
at
Husky
on
film,
and
he's
a
guy
that
I
hadn't
watched
until
we
drafted
him,
but
he
doesn't
feel
that
far
off
in
terms
of
what
he
would
grade
from
those
guys
I
mentioned,
from
a
Genesis
Smith
and
a
Ramsey.
Um
and
I
feel
like
he
should
have
been,
you
know,
after
watching
him
on
film,
he
should
have
been
mentioned
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
going
in
the
third
or
fourth
round
than
he
was.
Um,
didn't
really
see
any
any
drafts
with
him,
you
know,
going
that
high.
But
I
think
he
should
have
been
because
he
doesn't
feel
that
far
off
in
terms
of
what
he
should
what
he
would
grade
from
the
prospects
that
I
mentioned.
And
um
Wheatley
was
another
one
from
um
Penn
State.
He
don't
feel
that
far
off
in
terms
of
those
prospects.
So
um
I
really
like
that
pick,
man.
I
already
got
his
his
nickname,
man.
And
I
put
it
out
in
a
tweet
on
the
timeline.
Jalen
the
gets
they
talking
about
Husky,
man.
Um
as
you
if
y'all
saw
the
video,
y'all
know
what
I'm
talking
about
there.
He
was
at
uh
top
golf
celebrating
and
and
what
have
you
with
his
family.
Congratulations
to
him.
Uh,
this
is
a
pick
I
would
give
uh,
you
know,
I
won't
give
it
as
high
as
the
Pregnant
pick,
but
more
so
like
a
B
minus,
something
like
that.
He's
a
guy,
man,
that
like
when
you
go
to
training
camp,
he's
gonna
be
in
scraps.
And
I
mentioned
this
on
the
timeline.
He's
gonna
be
in
scraps
with
Bachel.
He's
gonna
be
in
scraps
with
LeQent
Allen,
like
a
hundred
percent
chance
of
it
because
of
how
he
plays
and
just
his
mentality,
right?
Um,
and
that's
needed,
right?
It's
needed,
and
you
know,
of
course,
when
you're
at
training
camp,
it's
high.
And
it
don't
take
that
much
to
set
you
off
as
it
is,
man.
But
you
know,
the
defense
could
use
a
little
bit
more
of
an
edge
in
a
player
like
this.
So
I
like
the
Jalen
Husky
pick.
When
looking
at
the
scheme
that
Maryland
used,
I
absolutely
not
shocked
that
the
Chad
Wars
would
have
interest
in
a
young
man
like
Husky.
And,
you
know,
he
he
adds
to
a
room
now
where
we
lost
Dewey.
As
I
mentioned,
that's
why
I
was
saying
we
needed
a
safety
in
the
mock
draft
episode.
But,
you
know,
Dewey
left.
Eric
Murray's
up
there
in
age,
not
saying
like,
you
know,
he
still
ain't
got
no
juice
left
in
the
tank.
But
Eric
Murray's
getting
up
there
in
age,
and
you
never
know
what's
going
to
happen
with
Antonio
Johnson,
who
we
hope
we
could
keep,
you
know,
and
got
high
PFF
grades,
the
highest
graded
safety
in
PFF
or
on
PFF.
But
you
just
never
know
if
you
can
or
can't.
And
it
does
help
to
have
insurance
like
a
Jalen
Husky.
All
right.
And
for
these
next
few
picks,
I'll
try
and
go
through
them
rapid
fire
because
we're
getting
up
there
in
time
in
terms
of
how
long
this
podcast
is
getting.
And
you
know,
I
don't
like
to
make
them
long-winded
for
you
all.
Um,
but
somehow
we're
pushing
the
50-minute
mark,
it
would
seem
here.
But
yeah,
we'll
go
through
them
rapid
fire.
In
the
fourth
round,
the
Jaguars
made
one
selection
uh
with
pick
number
119.
They
went
with
a
defensive
end
in
Wesley
Williams.
Um,
and
while
this
is
a
position
that
a
lot
of
people
pointed
to
in
their
mock
drafts
is
one
that
the
Jaguars
needed
to
address.
A
lot
of
people
aren't
happy
with
this
pick
and
kind
of
look
at
it
in
the
same
lens
as
the
pick
in
the
second
round
with
uh
Nate
Burkecher.
Um,
but
that
being
said,
though,
um
we
got
a
gentleman
here
in
Wesley
Williams
from
Duke,
uh
6'4,
256
pounds,
went
to
Duke
and
attended
there
uh
from
2022
to
2025.
He
registered
11
career
sacks,
29
tackles
for
loss,
and
uh
he
had
7.5
sacks,
uh,
which
was
his
highest
total
in
terms
of
a
um
year-to-year
basis
in
2024.
Of
course,
when
you
look
at
that
sack
number
in
totality,
um,
the
11
career
sacks,
of
course,
a
lot
of
people
are
down
on
that.
Um,
but
we've
seen
it
in
this
league,
right?
Um
the
the
people
and
the
the
executives
and
the
coaches
in
the
league
more
so
uh
gravitate
towards
pressures,
and
that's
kind
of
where
this
young
man
made
his
money
at
Duke.
Where
fans
and
your
fantasy
people
more
so
um
gravitate
towards
the
sacks,
right?
When
it
comes
to
these
things
and
evaluating
um
pass
rushers
and
defensive
ends.
Um
when
you
look
at
him,
he
does
feel
like
the
replacement
for
Dewan
Smoot
potentially,
who
I
think
Dewan
Smoot
uh
is
a
free
agent
at
this
moment.
You
know,
you
never
know,
they
might
bring
him
back
and
have
him
mentor
this
young
man.
But
it
does,
it
does
feel
like
he
is
um
a
replacement
for
Dewan
Smoot.
In
terms
of
my
notes,
I'll
go
through
them
real
quick.
Um,
what
I
wrote
on
him.
And
I
think
I
have
seen
Wesley
in
like
a
full
game.
Um,
but
strong
bull
rush
is
one
thing
that
caught
my
eye.
Uh
it
shows
the
ability
to
dip
underneath
offensive
linemen.
So
you
always
like
to
see
that
at
6'4,
the
ability
to
go
up
and
under.
And
then,
as
I
previously
mentioned,
one
thing
I
got
circled
here
is
he's
probably
more
of
a
pressure
machine
than
anything.
But
um
we
we
knew
that
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars
needed
some
depth
behind
Trayvon
Walker
and
Josh
Hines
Allen.
They
addressed
it
just
not
with
the
particular
pass
rusher
that
people
wanted
and
not
in
the
round
that
people
wanted.
Um,
but
they
did
nonetheless
address
um,
you
know,
getting
some
help
behind
those
two.
And
uh
yeah,
no,
he'll
he'll
now
join
forces
with
the
likes
of
BJ
Green
and
uh
Stragal
as
well.
All
right,
going
to
the
next
pick
again.
We're
gonna
try
and
make
these
rapid
fire.
Uh
the
Jaguars
made
a
pick
in
the
fifth
round
after
that.
Um,
the
fifth
round
pick
was
for
Tanner
Cozyall
of
Houston.
They
selected
him
with
pick
number
164.
Loved
his
film.
Again,
like
a
lot
of
these
guys
after
the
fourth
round,
I
saw
highlights
of
um
more
so
than
anything,
but
I
did
um
get
to
catch
some
film
of
Cozy
All
as
well,
now
that
I'm
thinking
about
it.
A
6'6,
245
pounds.
And
I
if
I
can
recall,
Mia
O'Brien
said
this
that
he's
he
was
the
um
most
active
receiving
tight
end
aside
from
Harold
Fanning
Jr.,
who
went
to
the
Browns
last
year,
if
I
can
recall,
um,
within
the
last
10
years.
But
yeah,
that
kind
of
just
shows
you
like
how
much
of
a
weapon
he
was
um
for
Houston
and
the
Cougars.
And,
you
know,
more
so
of
a
uh
a
slot
guy
than
an
inline
guy,
um,
whereas
Tanner,
uh
not
Tanner
Cozy
all,
but
whereas
Nate
Burkecher
is
more
so
an
inline
guy
who
will
have
to
work
on
the
receiving
side
of
things.
So
um
they're
they're
different
in
that
regard,
but
still
again,
when
looking
at
the
the
desire
for
offensive
to
go
to
more
12
and
13
personnel,
this
makes
so
much
sense.
In
terms
of
his
stats,
um,
he
accumulated
237
collegiate
career
passes
for
2,234
yards
and
24
touchdowns.
In
his
last
year
at
Houston
in
2025,
he
accumulated
74
receptions
for
727
yards
and
six
touchdowns.
And
if
I
can
recall,
he
was
um
their
leader
in
receiving.
If
I
can
recall,
I
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
that
and
fact
check
myself.
Um,
but
yeah,
he
um
attended
Houston
and
uh
the
J
Warsite
said
he
also
went
to
Ball
State
for
a
little
bit
of
time
as
well.
He
was
a
first
team
All
Big
12
selection
in
2025,
so
last
year
he
was,
and
a
second
team
all
mid-American
Conference
selection
in
2024,
and
third
team
all
Mac
selection
in
2023.
So
he's
he's
got
the
accolades
for
sure.
Obviously,
you
would,
you
know,
when
you
you
are
as
active
of
a
pass
catcher
as
he
is
at
the
tight
end
position.
Love
this
film,
man.
As
I
said
earlier,
in
terms
of
my
notes
here,
and
again,
I
just
put
brief
notes
here,
they
want
to
make
it
long
and
wordy
here,
but
um
good
hands.
He
he
he
showed
soft
hands
many,
many
times
when
I
watched
him
on
film.
Um
wide
catch
radius,
you
know,
it
was
a
lot
of
catches
he
had
to
extend
uh
his
body
to
get,
and
it
was
no
problem
with
doing
it.
Uh
so
you
know
that
would
indicate
that
he
would
definitely
be
a
great
wet
red
zone
threat.
Um,
can
catch
in
traffic
as
well.
He
caught
a
lot
of
passes
in
traffic
um
and
showed
good
concentration
in
the
process
because
when
you're
catching
in
traffic,
of
course,
uh
concentration
is
big.
A
reoccurring
trend
here,
by
the
way,
when
you
look
at
the
pass
catchers,
there's
some
more
that
we're
gonna
mention
here
in
a
little
bit,
but
they
all
have
good
hands.
And
it's
clear
that
the
Jaguars
are
tired
of
drops,
and
so
am
I.
So
I'm
right
there
with
them.
And
I've
always
wondered
when
a
regime
would
attack
this,
whether
it
was
Balkey's
regime
or
this
regime
will
attack
that
issue
of
drop
passes,
and
it
looks
like
the
Jaguars
are
trying
to
do
so.
The
current
regime
is
trying
to
do
so
at
least.
Um,
not
really
a
separator,
is
another
note
I
got.
When
he's
coming
out
of
his
break,
he
doesn't
really
get
a
lot
of
separation,
which
is
why
he
catches
a
lot
of
balls
in
traffic,
but
that's
okay
when
you
have
the
catch
radius
that
he
has
and
the
catch
um
concentration
that
he
has
as
well.
Um
it's
no
issue
with
with
catching
a
ball
with
a
receiver
or
a
defender
blanketed
over
you.
Um,
one
thing
I
also
noticed
he's
likely
to
go
down
by
the
first
tackler.
Um,
it
were
it
was
times
where
he
broke
tackles,
but
more
times
than
not,
he
um
he
he
went
down
with
the
first
tackler.
Um
and
lastly,
I
put
that
he
has
great
body
control,
uh,
which
you
can
kind
of
see
how
he
balances
himself
after
catching
a
pass
that
you
know
he
had
to
extend
for.
And
you
know,
just
how
he
moves
in
general
after
the
catch,
you
know,
if
he
isn't
brought
down
by
that
first
defender.
So
those
were
some
notes
um
that
I
had
on
um
cozy
all.
I
really,
really
like
this
pick.
And
um,
this
is
a
guy
I'll
be
watching
in
training
camp
because
you
know,
in
training
camp,
when
the
pads
aren't
on
and
the
OTAs,
that
is
the
time
where
guys
like
this
shine,
you
know,
your
big
body
uh
receiving
threat
type
of
guy.
So
we'll
see
uh
what
the
deal
is
with
Cozy
Y'all.
And
then
for
our
next
pick,
we
made
two
selections
in
the
sixth
round.
The
first
one
was
for
Josh
Cameron,
wide
receiver
from
Baylor.
Um
we
picked
him
with
the
number
191
pick
overall.
Cameron
is
six
foot
one,
200
pounds,
played
at
Baylor
from
2021
to
2025.
Um,
so
he
stayed
there
for
quite
a
while,
which
is
kind
of
rare
in
this
day
and
age
in
college
football.
But
you
like
that
commitment
and
loyalty.
That's
a
good
thing
to
see
in
this
day
and
age.
And
there's
nothing
wrong
with
going
into
the
transfor
portal
and
finding
a
better
fit.
Um,
but
yeah,
he
stayed
loyal
to
the
Baylor
Bears,
caught
170
career
passes
for
2,236
yards
and
19
touchdowns.
Last
year,
he
caught
69
receptions
for
872
yards
and
nine
touchdowns.
And
then
the
year
before
that,
he
had
52
catches
for
740
or
754
yards
and
10
touchdowns.
He
also
has
45
career
punts
and
has
an
average
of
14.0
yards
per
carry
as
a
punt
returner,
which
is
always
huge.
And
that's
something
that
the
Jaguars
will
always
emphasize
with
this
new
regime
and
that
they
talk
about
frequently
getting
late-round
guys
that
can
help
in
special
teams,
right?
Or
help
on
special
teams.
So
that's
almost
like
a
necessity
at
that
point
because
you
probably
aren't
going
to
see
a
lot
of
time
on
the
field
at
your
core
position
on
offense
or
defense.
So
you
got
to
have
a
way
to
contribute
um
to
the
team,
although
you
might
not
be
a
top-to-depth
chart.
So
that's
something
that
um
we'll
watch
and
monitor
with
him.
As
of
course,
you
you're
not
gonna
want
Parker
Washington,
your
top,
one
of
your
top
receivers,
at
least,
um,
catching
a
lot
of
punts
and
fielding
a
lot
of
punts.
Um,
and
he's
about
to
sign
a
big
time
deal
sometime
in
the
near
future,
we
hope.
Uh
so
you
would
like
to
protect
him.
But
in
terms
of
Cameron,
man,
really
liked
his
film
too.
Um,
superb
at
adjusting
to
the
ball
in
the
air,
is
one
thing
I
got
in
my
notes
here.
Um,
a
fade
route
master.
He
caught
a
lot
of
fade
routes
over
there
in
Baylor.
I'm
also
can
catch
in
traffic
like
cozy,
y'all.
Um,
breaks
tackle
and
uh
refuses
to
go
down
is
another
thing
that
I
have
here.
Like
it
was
hard
to
break
him,
uh
bring
him
down.
And
it's
kind
of
fitting
because
he
he
wore
like
the
number
34
or
something,
even
though
he
was
playing
receiver.
Um
he
played
like
a
running
back
when
the
ball
was
in
his
hands
at
times.
So
um
it
was
kind
of
fitting,
even
though
it
was
kind
of
weird
to
see
a
receiver
out
there
wearing
the
number
34.
Um,
but
yeah,
you
can
see
some
technique
in
his
route
running
too.
Of
course,
you
know,
he'll
have
to
work
on
it
a
little
bit
more
in
the
league
and
whatnot,
but
he
definitely
has
a
uh
a
stepping
stone
to
start
with
in
terms
of
his
route
running.
And
yeah,
he'll
battle
for
that
number
five
or
six
spot,
you
know,
at
the
receiver
um
depth
chart
or
within
the
receiver's
depth
chart.
And
he's
a
guy
that
you
can
you
can
clearly
tell
is
gonna
work
hard
day
after
day,
especially
after
you
know
what
he
was
saying
to
the
media,
but
work
hard
day
by
day.
Uh,
he
was
really,
really
excited
and
elated
to
be
drafted
by
the
Jaguars.
So
there's
always
that.
Those
are
always
the
ones
that'll
work
their
behinds
off.
He
has
plenty
of
mentors
and
people
he
can
learn
from
in
that
room,
between
Jacoby
Myers,
of
course,
that's
the
first
one
that
comes
to
mind,
and
Parker
Washington.
You
know,
those
two
have
been
in
the
league
at
least
four
years
or
more.
Um,
even
you
know,
BTJ
will
probably
help
him
out,
even
though
he's
on
a
little
bit
on
the
quieter
end.
Travis
Hunter
never
has
any
issues
with
talking
to
anybody.
Like
he's
a
very
talkative
and
lively
person,
so
he
definitely
uh
wouldn't
mind
helping
out
Cameron
along
the
way
as
well.
And
you
know,
it'll
be
exciting
to
see
where
this
young
man
gels
with
the
team.
So
we'll
continue
on
here.
We're
doing
them
rapid
fire
here.
Another
six-round
pick
here
that
we
had.
Also
a
receiver
in
CJ
Williams.
Um,
I
was
impressed
by
his
film
too,
and
I
enjoyed
watching
his
film.
He
last
went
to
Stanford,
but
he
made
stops
in
like
Wisconsin,
and
it
may
have
been
one
more
place
before
that.
USC.
Yeah,
it
was
USC
as
well.
And
um,
of
course,
we
have
the
USC
tires
through
Tony
Boselli.
Um,
but
his
receiver's
coach
passed
at
USC,
so
he
then
decided
to
go
to
Wisconsin,
which
we
all
know
that's
like
an
offensive
line
factory.
So
they
didn't
throw
the
ball
all
that
much,
and
then
he
found
his
way
to
Stanford,
uh,
where
he
was,
you
know,
by
my
eyes,
like
their
best
receiver
on
the
offense,
um,
at
least
last
year.
So
he
caught
a
career
total
of
94
passes
for
1,179
yards
and
eight
touchdowns.
Um,
and
last
year
he
caught
59
receptions
for
749
yards
and
six
touchdowns.
In
terms
of
my
notes
here,
um,
I
keep
seeing
Zay
Jones
when
I
watch
this
kid
for
some
reason.
If
you
take
Zay
Jones'
double
move
ability
out
of
the
equation
and
you
kind
of
just
zone
in
on
the
other
things
that
he
does,
well,
he
reminds
me
of
this
kid.
Or
should
I
say
this
kid
reminds
me
of
Zay
Jones?
So,
yeah,
let
me
know
what
y'all
think
of
that.
Like,
are
y'all
seeing
Zay
Jones
as
well?
Uh,
very
acrobatic
receiver.
He
made
some
acrobatic
catches
um
during
his
time
at
Stanford.
I
only
watched
like
highlights
of
his
Stanford
tape.
I
didn't
watch
when
he
was
with
uh
USC
or
Wisconsin.
Um,
he
had
good
hand-eye
coordination
from
everything
that
I
saw
as
well,
man.
And
um
again,
another
guy,
you
know,
you
kind
of
feel
like
he
might
be
the
replacement
for
like
Tim
Patrick,
right?
Even
though
he
doesn't
have
the
height
that
Tim
Patrick
has.
Um,
but
you
you
get
vibes
that
he
might
be
the
Tim
Patrick
replacement.
Um
and
it,
you
know,
it
wouldn't
be
shocking
if
he
makes
the
team
as
receiver
number
five
or
number
six,
after,
of
course,
the
the
notable
guys
that
we've
talked
about
already.
Next
up,
we
have
um
picks
in
the
seventh
round,
two
picks
that
were
in
the
seventh
round
made
to
help
out
the
defense
here.
First
one
is
Zach
Durfe,
who
um,
you
know,
the
moral
of
his
story
is
he
was
injured
a
lot.
Um,
he
was
dealing
with
some
elbow
stuff.
Um,
I
know
the
COVID
season
kind
of
interfered
um
with
his
ability
to
get
on
the
field
in
some
way,
shape,
or
form,
too,
if
I
can
recall.
And
yeah,
he
only
played
in
like
eight
18
FBS
games.
So
the
experience
is
not
there
in
terms
of
uh
the
body
of
work
you
were
like.
But
look,
that's
why
he
fell
to
the
seventh
round,
right?
And
that's
why
you
don't
have
a
problem
with
taking
a
chance
on
him
when
you're
talking
about
a
seventh
round
pick.
It's
not
like
you're
gonna
be
paying
him
a
boatload
of
money.
You
take
a
swing
for
the
fences,
right?
And
it's
a
high
risk
or
a
high
reward,
low
risk
type
of
signing.
Um,
Durfee
is
six
foot
five,
256
pounds,
played
with
Washington
from
2024
to
2025.
And
then
I
think
before
that
he
played
with
Sioux
Falls,
uh,
where
he
he
had
a
pretty
good
run
with
Sioux
Falls.
I
don't
have
the
stats
here,
but
I
do
remember
reading
up
on
that.
Um
while
with
Washington,
he
registered
6.5
sacks
and
8.5
tackle
for
losses
last
year,
um,
or
in
totality
with
Washington.
And
then
he
had
uh
four
sacks
and
five
tackles
for
loss
last
year
with
the
Huskies.
Um
he's
a
guy
that
in
terms
of
the
film,
um,
I
saw
a
sneaky
athlete,
good
change
of
direction,
in
my
opinion.
Great
in
pursuit,
like
that
was
the
number
one
thing
that
stood
out,
like
just
always
in
pursuit
like
of
the
quarterback.
And
now
that
I'm
thinking
about
it,
I
think
I
saw
a
whole
game
of
his.
Um,
but
yeah,
man,
he
he
kind
of
like
Regis,
man.
He'll
chase
you
all
the
way
to
Polakka
if
he
had
to.
Again,
the
pros
or
excuse
me,
the
cons
were
the
lack
of
experience.
As
I
said,
only
18
FBS
games
to
his
name.
His
arms
are
on
the
short
end
a
little
bit
as
well.
Um,
but
again,
like,
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
sound
like
Trent
Balkey
or
anything.
Like,
that's
not
anything
that
you
know
that
we
have
proof
really
hinders
a
player
reaching
their
potential,
right?
For
the
most
part.
I
mean,
sometimes
it
does,
but
for
the
most
part,
the
guys
who
are
destined
to
be
who
they're
gonna
be,
even
the
ones
with
short
arms,
figure
it
out,
right?
So
like
that's
something
that
like
I
think
like
Balkey
put
a
little
too
much
into.
Um,
but
you
know,
we
don't
want
to
talk
about
that
guy
too
much.
But
yeah,
man,
Durfee
is
a
guy,
man,
who,
you
know,
if
if
the
trend
of
injuries
continue
with
his
career,
and
look,
you
only
spent
the
seven-round
pick
on
him,
you
put
him
on
practice
squad,
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
just
kind
of
let
him
develop,
right?
Again,
a
low
risk,
high
reward
type
of
signing
when
you're
talking
about
a
seventh-round
pick
here.
And
uh
yeah,
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
if
they
can
draw
that
potential
out
of
him.
Because
if
this
kid
played
in
more
games,
it's
clear
that
he
would
have
been
more
so
along
the
lines
of
a
fourth
or
third-round
pick,
but
it's
just
the
lack
of
games
that
he's
played
and
the
availability
as
well
that
have
hurt
him.
But
um,
you
can
see
where
this
guy,
if
if
he
were
to
take
the
field,
let's
say
just
one
more
season,
man,
where
he
could
have
developed
into
a
guy
that,
you
know,
people
were
talking
about
a
sneaky
pick
for
that
third
round
range.
But
um
again,
you
know,
things
happen,
and
um
nonetheless,
he
still
ended
up
getting
drafted
by
the
Jacksonville
Jaguars,
so
it
still
worked
out.
Lastly,
we
have
Patrick
or
excuse
me,
Parker
Hughes
from
uh
Middle
Tennessee
um
linebacker
who
we
took
in
the
seventh
round
with
pick
two
number
uh
pick
number
two
40,
uh
6'2,
about
225
pounds,
because
on
the
Jaguar
site,
I
think
that's
a
typo
have
him
at
205.
I
definitely
think
that's
a
typo.
But
I
think
when
I
looked
at
him
on
Middle
Tennessee
site,
and
sometimes
you
can't
go
by
those
college
sites,
but
they
had
him
at
about
225,
or
maybe
the
NFL.com
on
his
combine
page
or
his
player
profile
page
had
him
at
225.
But
um,
yeah,
he
registered
252
career
tackles,
123
of
which
were
solo,
3.5
sacks,
and
15.5
uh
tackles
for
loss
throughout
his
career
at
Middle
Tennessee.
I
think
he
went
there
for
his
whole
career
basically,
so
he
wasn't
a
guy
that
transferred
from
a
lot
of
places.
In
2025,
he
had
100
tackles,
50
of
which
were
solos.
Uh,
so
he
was
pretty
active
in
that
regard.
Um,
I
saw
a
guy
who
was
kind
of
you
know
slippery
and
sneaky
in
terms
of
um
shooting
gaps,
despite
being,
you
know,
what
looked
to
me
to
be
under
230.
Um,
but
he
was
definitely
good
and
quick
with
getting
between
gaps
and
getting
in
there
before
these
linemen
can,
these
big
linemen
can
get
their
mitts
on
him.
So
that
was
one
thing
that
stood
out.
Um,
but
aside
from
that,
I
had
to
watch
some
more
film
on
him
because
of
course,
like
it's
not
like
there's
probably
abundance
of
Middle
Tennessee
film
out
there
that
you
can
find.
Um,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
on
YouTube
there
is
some
full
games
out
there
because
a
lot
of
these
kids
play
on
ESPN
2
as
well
and
the
smaller
ESPNs
like
that
go
to
these
types
of
colleges.
So
I
probably
can
find
some
um
some
tape
of
them,
and
when
I
do,
I'll
be
sure
to
share
my
notes
and
thoughts
and
probably
put
out
a
scouting
report
as
well.
So
all
of
that
said,
we'll
go
ahead,
man,
and
uh
we'll
wrap
this
up.
I
will
touch
on
the
undrafted
free
agents
later.
Probably
in
the
next
episode,
we'll
swing
back
around
to
them.
But
for
time
purposes,
I
will
just
stick
to
the
guys
we
drafted.
Um,
and
of
course,
we'll
have
Phil
back
on
the
next
episode.
As
I
mentioned,
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go-to
place
for
your
ticketing
needs,
whether
that's
concerts,
events,
um,
sporting
events,
you
name
it,
they
got
you
covered.
So,
all
of
that
said,
man,
we'll
go
ahead
and
sign
off
on
this
one
again.
I'm
James
Johnson,
and
until
next
time,
you
all
take
care
of
each
other.