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Welcome to episode 352 of
the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro
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podcast recorded live
on September 12th, 2023.
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This is a show about Microsoft 365 and
Azure from the perspective of it pros and
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end users where we discuss a topic where
recent news and how it relates to you,
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newsletters and SharePoint and email
both after spending a bit discussing
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how Scott and Ben keep track of all
their newsletters, news articles, PDFs,
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and even recipes.
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They talk about a new feature
in SharePoint to send at
SharePoint news articles
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internally as emails and some of
the potential use cases of this new
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feature. I'm back from up north,
I got my up north shirt on,
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I came back from that back.
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You up north shirt on. You're
always wearing an up north shirt.
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You've got one or you've got like the
hand with the peninsula and Right.
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You're always rocking
the Michigan wear. I.
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Have maintained my Michigan wear but
while I was in Michigan people have said I
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have turned into a Southerner
'cause I bought a truck
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I don't know if that's
necessarily Southern per se,
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but I absolutely do have a
truck now instead of a car.
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I don't know if that's
Southern per se, either.
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More like an American
thing I think at this.
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Point. Yeah. What about
a dog in a shotgun?
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Isn't the most popular car in America
like the F one 50 or something like that?
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It.
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Is and I did not get an F one 50,
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although if I could pick any
truck to purchase it would be
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the F one 50. That's my favorite one.
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But when you find a good deal
on one from a family member,
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you'd take what you can get. Can't.
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Fault you there.
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Yeah. And the F one 50 lightning side
tangent. I thought about that one.
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'cause let's be honest, the cyber
truck, my opinion cyber truck is ugly.
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cyber truck is
a joke. . Yeah.
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So I would love the Ford F one 50
Lightning if I was gonna get an electric
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vehicle.
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Although I was talking to a friend of
ours the other day and he said F one 50
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has been having problems where people
are going to charge it and it is not
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letting them remove the charging cable
after they charge it with the firmware
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updates. Yeah. So I might
need that ironed out.
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But the other appeal of the F one 50 is
being down here in hurricane country,
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if you have your house
configured properly,
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you can use the F one 50 and
its battery as a battery backup
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for your house and probably get
like three or four days off of
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that battery if you use your
electricity sparingly. I think.
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That's for a normal house I would expect
for a house like yours and mine that's
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running like a day computers
and all sorts of extra garbage that's
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already on UPSs. Yeah, we get
like one to two days but it's it,
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it would be interesting. So I was
talking to one of my coworkers,
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he picked up a Rivian R one T,
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the truck, not the s U v. Okay.
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So what does he think about
the rivian? Because that,
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I've thought about that too.
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He absolutely loves it. It
doesn't have that same capability.
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Although I think he was saying that the
Rivian folks have thought about it as
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well.
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I think it's interesting like you'll see
more and more companies do things like
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that over time. So yeah, I,
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I've thought about it myself but then I'm
like back to that whole you and I have
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bought vehicles from family.
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The last vehicle I bought from family
cost me $1 and I'm just gonna drive that
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thing into the ground. So
. Yeah, that's what it is.
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But I'm a little jealous that next
time we meet for coffee in person,
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you're not gonna have the car that
you're driving into the ground, not.
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You're gonna have a new.
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One. I'll be like, oh no, not
now. I gotta be jealous but.
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Good, I'll give you a ride. I'm.
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All good. I'm happy for you there.
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I wonder if you're like me
when it comes to new purchases,
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new things like that in that I have all
sorts of like manuals around the house,
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right? Like when I bought like
my wife's Jeep, it was like ooh,
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let me go find the P D F for that manual
so I can keep it and have it ready to
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go. So this leads me into
my Ben question of the day.
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'cause I've been on a search over,
over the past, ooh like year here.
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It's definitely been the last
couple months for the best.
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Read it later keep it
app kind of thing, right?
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Like I need a place where I
can dump newsletters, PDFs,
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maybe the occasional
article from an r s s feed.
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Certainly things like I wanna
follow up on later, right?
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One of the big things I have is
since I work from home and my wife
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is a teacher and she's at school and her
school is like almost an hour away from
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our house, I do a lot of
the cooking around here.
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So I'm always out on YouTube
looking for new recipes or
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out on the internet scouring and doing
things like I have a whole compendium of
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just like recipes tagged
that point back to YouTube,
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TikTok reels, random, all the
things, ss, e o infused website,
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things like that. So I'm curious,
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do you use a service to save
all that stuff? And if you do,
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what service do you use?
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It depends on the month
and how I'm feeling. Oh.
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Boy. .
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Yeah, so I've tried a bunch of them. I
have a dilemma with some of this stuff.
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I would say currently my app of Choice,
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service of Choice is one
that you sent over to
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me in Raindrop. I like
it for the most part.
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I have also used Pocket in the
past and I think the biggest
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difference between those,
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and this is one I struggle with is
Raindrop is truly like a bookmark, right?
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It saves it. It.
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Is a bookmark manager all in
one bookmark manager. Yep.
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It is not a read later.
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So if you are offline or if
the internet isn't working for
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some reason or an article goes away,
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it doesn't necessarily
work in Raindrop as well.
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Pocket is more of a read
later. For instance,
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we have picked up blog posts before I
think that have come into Pocket or no,
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maybe it was when I just grabbed them
in feed lead or saved them to pocket.
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But if you don't have internet
access you can go back to 'em.
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But I only tend to use it for websites.
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Like then you talk about recipes in those.
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I don't tend to use any of those because
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I wanna make sure I have them if the
website goes away or something goes on.
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So I tend to use a web clipper tool
to pull those into something like Web
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OneNote. Again, I've used
Evernote in the past.
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I have not gone down the Notion
rabbit hole yet for a whole slew
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of reasons, but I never
quite know. PDFs, same thing,
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like I don't want the pdf D to go away.
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So those I tend to
download and just save to
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OneNote or not OneNote, save
to OneDrive. I have a very,
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I would say a relatively well structured
folder scheme in my OneDrive for
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different things relating to the house,
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to vehicles to school where
if I can download a file,
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I just download a file to OneDrive,
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know that I have a one solution
fits all for all of that
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stuff. It depends on the scenario.
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And even in Pocket Raindrop I have
different things I like and I don't like
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about both.
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I've flipped back and forth
between those two for saving,
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I would say those web-based content links.
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I have a new one that
you might wanna consider.
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I think like we tend to be very
similar in these kinds of things.
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What? That we're always
trying new stuff. You're.
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Always looking for the the perfect
solution. I can get you through all that.
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All right, I introduce you. I
think like you said to Raindrop,
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I'm a huge fan of Raindrop tons
and tons of stuff in there.
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The only place that it falls down
for me is it is not a read it
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later service. So I've been
bit by this a whole bunch,
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particularly with recipes because so
many of these things are like spammy SS e
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o, like they gotta get into
the Google search results.
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Things that those websites just come
and go like they flicker out or like a
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TikTok video,
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it could be at one u r l another day
and then white dance changes it and now
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it's at a totally different thing and
now the link that I had doesn't work
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anymore. So things like that
tend to annoy me a little bit.
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So I would like to introduce
you to Omnivore and Omnivore is
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at Omnivore app. It is an open source,
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read it later service, which kind
of appealed to me. I was like ooh,
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that's nifty. So it's
not a closed ecosystem,
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like the pockets of the world and it does
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everything that you
just mentioned .
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So it does read it later
and save them for later.
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It can ingest r s s feeds
if you want it to and just
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save those things forever. It
also has newsletter ingestion,
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which has been super powerful for me.
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I took all my newsletters out of email
and I've moved them over to Omnivore
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each on their own email
address and omnivore.
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So now they all just come in like nicely
formatted for Read it later, right?
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Like I follow like a product management
newsletter for Lenny's newsletter.
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There's a bunch of other
things that exist out there.
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It does all the labeling and
tagging just like Raindrop does.
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It has apps on every
platform, windows, Mac, oas,
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it has extensions for
Firefox, Chrome Edge,
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all those good kinds of things.
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It's free right now but is open source.
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So there could be some wonkiness if they
don't get enough funding through the
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open source collective or they just don't
come back and come up with a pricing
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model. But like it's really good for free.
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I would totally pay for it if
they had a pricing plan right now
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kind of thing going for it. And yeah,
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it generally does a bunch of
nifty things and is good for
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a lot of the stuff that I wanted in a
read it later app. So last cool thing,
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you and I are also fans of Obsidian. Yep.
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I think you use it a
little bit more than I do,
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but there's a plugin for obsidian.
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So you can take things and you can
choose how you sync things over to an
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obsidian fault if you want
them in another place.
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So what I've been doing for like recipes,
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so I have like all my recipes tagged
and I'm pulling all of those into
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obsidian just based on those tags
into a specific like recipe vault.
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So every time I open it up it just
syncs with Omnivore and it just boom,
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it pulls in. Anything else
that was new in there.
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So I effectively have two copies of it.
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One in Omnivore and the other just
as markdown in obsidian 'cause it
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automatically pulled it through.
Ooh. And the obsidian plugin's cool.
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You can choose to pull
in the entire article,
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Hey give me all the text and things
in it or give me only the things that
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I've highlighted in Omnivore and then
it pulls through just the highlights and
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puts those in there as well.
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So I've been playing with this
for two weeks and I'm generally
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a fan of it. I'm trying to figure
out like now if this sticks,
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what am I gonna use Raindrop
for? Like how much I'm,
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I'm trying to figure out how much I've
been using it as a bookmarking service
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versus I was trying to fake my
way into a read at later service,
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which is what I really wanted.
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And I think I really wanted
to read at later service.
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'cause back to how I asked you about
manuals and things like that's the other
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thing I've been pumping in there is like
all the PDFs for manuals and all that
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just to have it all in the same place
and like a virtual digital binder.
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See and that's my thought with,
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I think that's my big thing with Raindrop
too is I really want a read it later,
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but I will say some things I run into,
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there's certain Learn articles,
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let's use that for an example that
I wanna be able to come back to and
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reference around maybe it's a certain
configuration or setup and I wanna have
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it handy versus having to
go to learn and Search,
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learn or use Binging or
Google and search It.
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Where the bookmark is nice is
that those articles get updated
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relatively regularly in being able to
go and see the latest updates on that
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article are nice versus just having
essentially cached and to read it later.
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So I think this is Omnivore is interesting
'cause it's the best of both worlds
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here in that you tell it,
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hey ingest the content from
this U R L and it ingests it,
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but then you still have the link back to
the original U R L if you want it. So.
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You can always go reference it and ingest.
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You can always go back and reference
it. So the learn one's a a good example.
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So I was doing this the other day with
a learn module that I was working on
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updating. So I pulled in all,
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it was a a full module with, I
think it had six units in it.
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So one module, six units kind
of thing. So I pulled all uh,
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like the overview page in and all the
individual things in and then I had those
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sink into obsidian. So great. I
had the full text in Obsidian,
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which is in markdown.
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And then I went back and I just went into
obsidian and I started running through
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it, making notes, making updates,
adding, oh I would do this differently.
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Oh this arm template's wrong, this C L
I command needs to be updated, all that.
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the other side just to spit it back out
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into a PR to get it all
updated and ready to go.
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So it was an interesting way like to
approach it and have it all come through
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without having to do what I normally
do is copy pasta the website or
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go try and find it in the learn repo.
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But then you've got all like the weird
metadata tags and things that are on like
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Microsoft webpages associated
with Learn properties.
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Like I didn't necessarily want all
that stuff to come with it. So yeah,
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it's been pretty nifty. And like I said,
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the other really cool one
is newsletters for me.
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There's a lot of newsletters that I
want to save but I don't really end up
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saving because I just click the archive
button in Gmail or whatever it is and
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then I forget that they're
there for all time. Yep.
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So now I have all my newsletters coming
in, they all get tagged as newsletter,
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they get a piece of metadata that says
oh this is newsletter and then then I can
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come back and save all those and filter
and sort by them and and re-tag them as
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they come in and all that stuff. So
that has been super good as well.
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So you might wanna go check out Omnivore
and if others out there listening to
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this and you're going like, oh this
has nothing to do with the cloud,
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blah blah blah. Like it does,
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this is really the way like we all think
and retain information and all that
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stuff. Maybe you have a better
service. Let us know about it.
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So I have one last question with this
kind of as it relates to the podcast.
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Where does this leave you? Do you
still use all your r s s feeds then?
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One thing I like about Raindrop and some
of those other ones is I use Feed Leaf
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for everything and it integrates
really nice with Feed Leaf so I don't
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necessarily have to go out to the
article to save it to a service
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because they have hooks
directly into Feedly for r s s
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feeds. And it's interesting, Feedly,
you can also ingest newsletters into,
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I haven't done that yet with
Feedly, but I'm curious, do you,
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as you see articles coming in over R ss
s like stuff we wanna talk about for the
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podcast,
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are you going to the link
then to ingest them into
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omnivore or what does
that workflow like? Yeah.
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So so go to the link individually
and and send that through.
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So I'm still trying to
make the distinction in my
head between it's something
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that I want to save for a little
while or it's something that I
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truly want to read later, right?
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And I'll take feed lead and and an R SS
S feed or something like that and a link
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that comes through for the
podcast for like that stuff.
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I just keep it in Feedly
because it's a little,
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Feedly is a little in R S Ss and even
to a certain degree some of these other
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services,
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they're a little more ephemeral to me in
that like most things that I would see
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like in an R sss feed for the podcast,
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like we're gonna talk about
it within 30 to 60 days.
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Like at some point it's gonna age out
and go away and then I'm done with it
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versus that recipe that I know,
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oh I'm gonna want that forever
or the manual for the car, right?
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Like I want that snapshot in time,
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like whatever it is that thing
needs to stick around. Yeah.
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So I've just been pulling over individual
ones and then everything else I leave
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over in O over in Feedly.
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I haven't liked Feed Lee's
newsletter integration and mainly
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'cause I use R Ss S feeds as a
slightly ephemeral thing, right?
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Like they age out over time and
they go away newsletters like the
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product management newsletter
that I do, Lenny's newsletter,
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I want every single one of those for
all time to go back and refer to.
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I don't want it to age out and go away
and then have to remember oh it's in this
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certain folder in Feedly
or whatever it is.
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That's a little too much for me to get to.
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And then some things like Lenny's
newsletter is a sub stack thing.
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Like I'm super afraid that sub stack is
gonna go under and go away someday and
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then all that stuff is just gonna be gone
and it's not gonna be available on the
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internet anymore. So yeah,
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I pull it over that other way but it's
been another tool in the toolbox, right?
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And I'm very much into it right now.
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Like I started out with it for
newsletters 'cause I wanted to see how its
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newsletter integration was on the
omnivore side and it turns out like it's
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pretty darn slick. So pulled that
through and and made that work.
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And for the low price of free as in beer,
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certainly go donate to an open
source project if you can.
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Then you're off to the
races and like I said,
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it's got a really good
ecosystem like apps on iOS,
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Android, they follow like
design on each system.
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So like I've got like my little play
around Android pixel phone here,
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like it's all good there.
iOS, Mac, os, windows,
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it just like works on everything.
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web browsers you've got,
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same thing as you do with Raindrop.
Like there's just an extension there,
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click the button, classify it and
ship it and then come back later.
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Oh you can,
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it has beta too where you
can add R S Ss feeds to
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omnivore directly.
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Yeah, it'll, it'll do r s s and Adam.
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The thing I'm not comfortable
with there is, like I said,
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I treat R S Ss as slightly ephemeral.
If there's things that I wanna save,
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they tend to be individual things.
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Like one of the r s s feeds I follow
is for a deal site that gives you like,
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oh hey, like Maxs are on sale today,
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this latest camera lens at B
and h photo blah blah blah.
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Go buy a Lenovo computer over
here. Like all that stuff.
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I don't wanna save that
stuff in perpetuity, right?
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I want it to go away and it's probably
not a healthy habit to have it coming in
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out at r s s feed and seeing it all
the time a anyway like that. So yeah.
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It's got a bunch of different app
integrations like on the Mac they have
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a native services plugin
sending PDFs into it.
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They have a fully published a P i you
can use webhooks if that's your thing.
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I believe you can also self-host it
but I haven't gone down that path and
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tried that one. Yeah.
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I saw that in the documentation.
I also saw sharing.
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I see some stuff that given it's new
that's in the documentation that I don't
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actually see how to do
within the app itself.
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Might be one for you to try out and see.
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It sounds like you struggle in some of
the same ways that I do with trying to
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rationalize this stuff and figure it.
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Out. I absolutely do. So I am going to
check this out and play around with it.
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So now that we have gone down that
20 minute rabbit hole of managing
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articles,
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which to your point is very relevant
because this is something we deal with a
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lot when it comes to Microsoft 365
and Azure and newsletters and all of
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that is there is some news
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around newsletters and
SharePoint to get back on
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the Microsoft cloud track.
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So this is a new SharePoint news for
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email feature.
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So you can now have your SharePoint
news come into email in Omnivore
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Scott with this. And yes, I
initially saw this and I was,
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I have mixed feelings but I also
can see where it could be beneficial
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is what this feature essentially
does is it allows you to convert your
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SharePoint news posts into
distributions that can be emailed.
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Now we're both longtime SharePoint
people and my initial thought was,
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well I thought we created SharePoint and
we created news and SharePoint so that
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we don't have to get all of these emails
and we can just go to SharePoint and
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view the news there versus continuing
to clut our mailbox and post this in two
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places.
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But I don't know if that's ever actually
come to fruition the way Microsoft
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envisioned or sold it either.
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And your experience with
some of the stuff you do,
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you were actually really excited
about this particular feature.
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Yes.
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So this feels like a feature
that was built for people at
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Microsoft and I think that's okay ,
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I read some kind of negative
sentiment about this.
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So the always awesome Tony
Redmond saw this one pop up was on
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it, looked at it and
he is, I don't get it.
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Like why would you want to take the
content that's in a SharePoint site
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and then just push it out
through email 'cause it's already
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in SharePoint.
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Like it's one of those things that
when you sit down and think about it,
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it's the way he framed it and I can see
how he landed here is it's a feature
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that's seeking a problem or really it's
a hammer that's just out there looking
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for a nail, right?
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And anything's gonna be a nail
to give it another analogy and I
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get how he landed there and the reason
he landed there is 'cause he said it's
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easy to copy and paste interesting news
snippets into a regular email if you
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want to. And I say yes to that,
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but also very much no to that. So
let's, lemme give you a use case. Okay,
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I work at Microsoft, right?
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And one of the things that happens
at Microsoft is email makes the
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world go round.
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There are just sometimes that you
can't compel people to go and look at a
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SharePoint site. I have the r s s feed,
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so I might see the new news article
pop up in the SharePoint site.
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Not everybody's gonna do that, right?
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But everybody has Outlook on their
mobile devices and everything else.
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So there's certain things that you
just want to communicate to your
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organizations that frankly
have to happen through email.
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But email is a great delivery mechanism
to do the initial communication.
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It's not a great communication mechanism
for keeping the information for later.
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So one of the things that I do
is I work on a virtual team that
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puts together our kind of
internal newsletter and for
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our whole organization. And that nors
newsletter is everything for, oh,
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here's what's upcoming in like planning
and what you should be thinking about
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from like the P M O. Here's
an interesting customer story.
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Like we're always working on like
gnarly customer problems and we wanna
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disseminate those to the team, both
our PMs and our engineers. Okay,
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let's show you how our customers
are actually using our products.
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We do engineering stories, we do team
updates, all the feature updates,
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all those kinds of things, right?
And, and we need to get those out.
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But there's units of information
that I wanna retain for a long time.
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Like all those customer
stories are valuable case
studies to go back and look at
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later.
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So I want all those like in a SharePoint
site where I can go back and refer to
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'em and search for 'em and say like,
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oh what did we do with
Contoso toys last year?
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That was like the big whiz bank thing.
So the way that I started out is when I,
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when I started with this
whole newsletter thing,
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like I was in charge of figuring
out, okay, where's it gonna land?
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What's it gonna do? So I was
like, I, I'm a SharePoint person,
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I'll just put it all in SharePoint.
Yep, there's news posts,
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there's all these things I can have
lists and I can tag and classify and blah
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blah blah.
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So I made the world's most
awesome SharePoint site
and I came back and I said,
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okay folks, let's do our first
newsletter in SharePoint.
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We wrote everything up on the
webpage and we got it ready to go.
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And then it came to, oh, how are
we gonna send the newsletter?
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Well if you use the native functionality
that was there before this new stuff
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that was announced, literally it
was just a block of text, right?
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Like a paragraph and a picture that
came through in the email that doesn't
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convey the whole message for people who
aren't gonna go visit the SharePoint
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site. So that doesn't work. What's the
other alternative? Well Tony said, Hey,
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maybe we just copy and paste
out into a regular email.
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The problem is you're not copying
and pasting into a regular email.
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Like your newsletter has a
specific format. Often it has uh,
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header picture at the top. It
might have a standard footer,
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like a button that's always
there that says, Hey,
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click here to contact the team and, and
let us know more about what's going on.
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Like all those kinds of things.
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So that implies that there's some level
of kind of formatting and and rigor
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there. So of course not only do I
have a SharePoint site to deal with,
442
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,960
now I have an email template.
443
00:25:54,220 --> 00:25:56,760
So now I'm not just copying
and pasting into an email.
444
00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:02,000
I'm copying and pasting from
SharePoint into an email template,
445
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,560
which then I have to reformat,
put all together, redo my tables,
446
00:26:05,710 --> 00:26:08,200
redo my headings, I have to
redo all the links, right?
447
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,800
'cause we have an index at the top
that says Hey, here's the contents.
448
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000
And so that takes not a ton of time,
449
00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:17,720
but it's at least like 30 minutes every
time to fix the format and get it all
450
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,720
done. So for me like this is,
451
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,680
I don't care that this feels like
it was built for somebody like me.
452
00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:29,480
This is absolutely what I want is just
a button where I can click a button
453
00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:34,760
and it puts together an email in
H T M L that is formatted Exactly.
454
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:39,600
Well not exactly but as close as it
can be to the SharePoint page itself.
455
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:43,040
It can only send to
internal people. Perfect.
456
00:26:43,810 --> 00:26:46,040
Click the button go and I'm done.
457
00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:51,040
Now I get my SharePoint page done,
locked, ready to go. It's all set.
458
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,000
I get the email to go out and I get all
the information retained in SharePoint
459
00:26:55,140 --> 00:27:00,000
and everything is everything
that's beautiful out there about
460
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,240
it. So I don't know, like personally
I am excited about this one.
461
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,920
I think if you run internal newsletters,
particularly branded newsletters,
462
00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:09,700
not,
463
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:14,440
oh I just slap dash this and it goes
into a weekly report to my boss kind of
464
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,720
thing. But like I need it
to look a little bit better.
465
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,280
I need it to be consistent
in how it looks,
466
00:27:19,340 --> 00:27:20,360
how it comes through all these things.
467
00:27:21,070 --> 00:27:24,560
This does solve a problem for
certain types of organizations.
468
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,500
I can see that.
469
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:29,800
And I can see like the use case that
you gave when we were talking about this
470
00:27:29,980 --> 00:27:34,960
and just now of being able to send
it as an email for those people
471
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,520
that still prefer emails or wanna read
it in emails but then have it maintained
472
00:27:40,420 --> 00:27:44,960
for however long In SharePoint where
it is searchable, it's findable,
473
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:49,160
it could be pulled into
topics, maybe newer people.
474
00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:53,400
Let's say someone joins Microsoft and
someone makes a reference to Oh did you
475
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,560
see this in the latest newsletter?
476
00:27:54,930 --> 00:27:59,000
Maybe a new employee didn't get the latest
newsletter 'cause they weren't there
477
00:27:59,060 --> 00:28:02,800
yet. They could go back and view the
history of newsletters and SharePoint.
478
00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:06,400
Well again, still having
that ability to email it out.
479
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,600
I can see some value there. As
you were talking, I was also,
480
00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:14,000
I'm sitting here thinking through like
certain organizations may have a lot of
481
00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:19,040
the frontline workers, the workers
that maybe don't visit SharePoint,
482
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,200
they're only on a mobile device.
They're always out on the road.
483
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,400
They're not sitting here. Let me go browse
SharePoint news articles on my phone.
484
00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:31,120
Mm-hmm being able to reach
them with an email of let's put this in
485
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:31,520
SharePoint.
486
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,720
People that are sitting at their desk
that are in SharePoint every day can see
487
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,260
it.
488
00:28:35,260 --> 00:28:39,960
The people that really only live
in email can get that same nicely
489
00:28:40,270 --> 00:28:44,440
formatted news article, everything
right in their email. So I agree.
490
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,600
I think the initial announcement
I had some of that skepticism
491
00:28:49,740 --> 00:28:54,280
and stuff that maybe Tony Redmond
had. But as we've talked through this,
492
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,720
I would say this feature has grown
on me as I'm seeing more of these use
493
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,080
cases of this kind of makes sense.
494
00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:04,960
It eases the work for people
that write these newsletters.
495
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,960
I think it's a valid nice
feature for certain situations.
496
00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:12,800
It's not gonna be for everybody, but
there are absolutely use cases for this.
497
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,120
One. I think if you wanna see,
498
00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:17,840
and it's another thing that in the
back of my head makes this, uh,
499
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,280
makes me think this is not
a feature that's potentially
500
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:24,720
like seeking out a problem to solve.
501
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:28,520
Go look at the tech
community post for this.
502
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:32,720
I'll have a link in the notes but and
just go read through the comments.
503
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:36,840
There's a ton of comments that
aren't like oh this is a great thing.
504
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,673
Nice to see.
505
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:40,880
It's actually comments and these are the
types of comments that I'd love to see
506
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,840
from customers when we release things
is there are comments that push back and
507
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,200
suggest new features. Like, oh hey did
you think about this? What about this?
508
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:53,960
What about this? What about this?
And there's already two pages,
509
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,600
I think there's 25 comments,
a page, something like that.
510
00:29:56,780 --> 00:30:01,320
But it's already spilling over to Lake
page two with just all this actionable
511
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,360
feedback for hey here's ways that
this could potentially be better.
512
00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:10,160
Did you think about this? Is this
coming next? All that kind of stuff.
513
00:30:10,690 --> 00:30:14,000
Which generally gives me the feeling
that you're on the right track, right?
514
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,360
Like people read it, people
saw it, they looked at it,
515
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,840
they maybe played with it and they said,
516
00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:21,120
Ooh but now I need it to do
this and it's perfect for me.
517
00:30:21,860 --> 00:30:25,840
That's a great first step for
an M V P to get it out the door.
518
00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:28,680
So I get it like email's boring.
519
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:33,760
We all think that knowledge workers and
information workers should be able to
520
00:30:33,770 --> 00:30:37,320
adapt to like the way we think is
geeks for how we put all this together.
521
00:30:37,780 --> 00:30:41,280
The reality is that's just not the
way the world works, right? So you,
522
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,560
you've gotta get on a different kind
of train to get all that stuff going
523
00:30:46,380 --> 00:30:48,040
and and get it to where it needs to be.
524
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:51,600
So the other thing that I would recommend
is if you go to that tech community
525
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,280
post, there's a video in there.
526
00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:56,880
So go watch the video.
527
00:30:57,420 --> 00:31:01,000
It will answer 95% of your questions.
528
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,720
where you might be
thinking like just do this, just do this.
529
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:07,360
Oh I'm just gonna go fire off a
comment or just watch the video.
530
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,480
I think it explains some of the weird
nuance that's there with this feature as
531
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,840
it exists today and just
how to get going with it.
532
00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:17,360
So I'm generally a fan,
533
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:22,240
like I said like this fills an actual
like gap and a pain point in my
534
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,920
life and I love features like that that
like they just make an end user's life
535
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,400
easier. And for me as an end
user, like super selfishly,
536
00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:34,440
this is one of those things
that makes my life a lot easier.
537
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:34,920
Yeah.
538
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,520
And this should be there now or shortly
for everybody like this kind of got
539
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,560
announced, when did this article
come out? We're a little slow.
540
00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:45,440
It was published August 29,
541
00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:49,440
but it was rolling out to targeted
release customers starting in August.
542
00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:53,960
So probably the day this was published
should be there for everyone by the end
543
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720
of September, 2023. So
the end of this month.
544
00:31:57,020 --> 00:31:58,520
And there's a couple things in the FA q,
545
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,520
the other one that's nice about this
Scott having those tied together is the
546
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200
view counter, if your company
caress about analytics,
547
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:06,360
how many people are viewing it.
548
00:32:06,780 --> 00:32:10,840
The view counter on your SharePoint news
article is going to include both the
549
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,800
SharePoint views as well as if people
are viewing the article through the
550
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,680
email client. So you do still get
a cumulative view count as well of
551
00:32:21,260 --> 00:32:24,080
how many people are actually
reading my newsletter. They're.
552
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,480
Pulling in I think some analytics from
graph and other things in there, which.
553
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,960
Is good. It is, I would agree.
554
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,400
I have been flipped over to
this is from I know why to,
555
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:35,920
this is a nice nifty little feature.
556
00:32:36,150 --> 00:32:37,880
Glad I maybe sort of.
557
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:38,853
You converted me.
558
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:39,823
Convinced you.
559
00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:44,160
We'll see if I can convert you to omni
four or you're gonna come back or our
560
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,840
super awesome listeners are gonna come
back and they're gonna let us know that
561
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,920
there's this totally other awesome service
out there that we just were missing
562
00:32:49,940 --> 00:32:54,280
out on. And it does everything. And the
answer is not allowed to be Evernote,
563
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:57,000
like OneNote or Evernote
or not the answer.
564
00:32:57,180 --> 00:33:02,160
One note Evernote nor notion those
three are off the table for the solution
565
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,200
for tracking all this stuff. ,
I'm gonna done exclude those.
566
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:07,880
You know what somebody's
gonna come back with.
567
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800
One of the other note
taking ones like Bayer or.
568
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,280
Bayer doesn't work either
'cause it's iOS only.
569
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Like you gotta move multi-platform.
570
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:16,360
Multi-platform. All right.
571
00:33:16,420 --> 00:33:20,800
Multi-platform. Little bit of
markdown here. Yeah, read it later.
572
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:24,880
Newsletters. R s s like you
got a lot to live up to.
573
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Although you say that, but
Omnivore, did they have a Windows.
574
00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:32,080
App? I mean you got the website
and the pwa. If they don't but.
575
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,160
I see they have a Mac OSS app. Was I,
576
00:33:35,460 --> 00:33:39,120
did I see that somewhere or is it just
web for Mac and it's just mobile apps?
577
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:43,160
I'm just using it on the web. If they do
have an app, I believe they just have,
578
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,400
I believe their app story is PWAs.
Got it. That'll work on everything.
579
00:33:47,420 --> 00:33:49,920
But they do have everything
on like mobile app ecosystem.
580
00:33:50,020 --> 00:33:53,000
So iOS and Android are ready to go,
581
00:33:53,150 --> 00:33:55,240
well a Android they say is pre-lease,
582
00:33:55,340 --> 00:34:00,200
but like it's fine like
it totally works for what it needs
583
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,960
to work to in getting done. And then
they have extensions in every browser.
584
00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:05,400
So it's not even one of those
weird ones where you're like, Ooh,
585
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:07,880
I'm an edge user but I have to
go enable Chrome extensions.
586
00:34:07,910 --> 00:34:10,720
Like they just had an edge
extension out of the gate. Very.
587
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:13,200
Nice. Yep. I'm gonna go
play with this. Alright.
588
00:34:13,630 --> 00:34:17,440
Cool. Hey look at that.
30 minutes on stuff.
589
00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:22,440
VO and SharePoint news, . All
right, well Scott, go enjoy your day.
590
00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:26,080
Go enjoy the Apple event today if
you're gonna watch it. Oh yeah.
591
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,560
It is a, it is Apple Event
Day. You got that coming up.
592
00:34:28,660 --> 00:34:31,480
It is Apple Event Day. You're
gonna order a new phone. I still.
593
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,600
Don't feel like I need a new phone.
594
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:33,613
I'm on the fence.
595
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:39,080
I'm three years into my phone and I have
noticed the battery's starting to die
596
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,120
a little quicker. Although it could
also be because I'm on the beta of iOS.
597
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,720
I did put the beta on it
the other day. Me too.
598
00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:49,000
Beta, all the things. So I figured
it's, it's coming sooner. So,
599
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,400
so the battery thing is interesting
and I've done this in the past.
600
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,480
I was super hesitant
the first time I did it,
601
00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:56,200
but even if you're not under warranty,
602
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,280
a battery replacement under Apple
is like a hundred bucks, 120 bucks.
603
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:04,000
So like usually what I do is,
604
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,440
'cause I do handmade down devices
to the kids is the day we do the
605
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,140
hand-me-down thing,
606
00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:14,000
we go to the Apple store and we just get
the batteries replaced and then boom,
607
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,200
they're just back on the next
lifecycle and ready to go.
608
00:35:18,460 --> 00:35:22,280
And even me, I mean I'm
rocking a 13 pro I think,
609
00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:27,680
and my battery health is like 92% right
610
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,080
now. It's okay, but I can
still make it through a day.
611
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:34,320
But if it di below 90 and
there's no whizzbang, ooh,
612
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,920
I must have that feature then, which I,
I don't think there still will be like,
613
00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:41,000
we're still in this
iterative cycle for phones.
614
00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:44,080
So I think it's maybe
just new battery time.
615
00:35:44,110 --> 00:35:48,360
Yeah, I'm on an 11 pro
and my battery health.
616
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:50,400
Oh see, I bet it's the beta.
617
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,960
It's something running in
the background on the beta.
618
00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:57,280
My maximum capacity for my battery
health yet is still 97%. You're.
619
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,600
Still pretty good there then.
620
00:35:59,780 --> 00:36:03,000
The only thing I will say,
like the U S B is tempting,
621
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:05,440
but I still have a few
lightning devices around.
622
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,400
Like my AirPods are still lightning
and I still have a couple,
623
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,440
do I have any iPads? The kids
have some lightning iPads,
624
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,280
so I'm like a new phone to U S B C
is not gonna prevent me from carrying
625
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,760
around some lightning chargers
and having those around.
626
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:22,600
So maybe I'll try to get out
one more year and let's face it,
627
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,800
I just bought a truck so
I don't need a new phone.
628
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,560
, let's wait for the
ecosystem to catch up. Yeah, we'll see.
629
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,920
Apologies to the folks who listen to
the episode after this one because
630
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:38,400
it will likely be a Ben and
Scott become Mac podcasters
631
00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:38,950
for a day.
632
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:40,920
Yeah, we might have to go down our,
633
00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:46,000
our Apple geek out episode
and to all of you, I'm sorry,
634
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,760
we'll be back in another week or two
with back to the cloud news
635
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,280
because at her we are still tech
geeks that love our Apple stuff.
636
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:57,360
We get all that sorted too. But
alright, I gotta hop to a meeting.
637
00:36:57,420 --> 00:36:59,440
You gotta hop to a
meeting, so sounds good.
638
00:36:59,610 --> 00:37:00,100
Let's.
639
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:00,570
Get us done.
640
00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:02,320
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Talk to you again soon.
641
00:37:02,380 --> 00:37:03,600
All right, thanks Ben. Thanks Scott.
642
00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:09,560
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643
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:14,320
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644
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645
00:37:15,460 --> 00:37:19,160
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646
00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:23,640
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647
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