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Welcome to episode 353 of
the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro
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podcast recorded live
on September 13th, 2023.
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This is a show about Microsoft 365 and
Azure from the perspective of it pros and
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end users where we discuss a topic or
recent news and how it relates to you.
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Today we were going to take a break
and talk about the latest Apple
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announcements. Instead.
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They were a bit boring so we decided to
talk a bit about containers and about
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Microsoft Ignite, which registration
has recently gone live for.
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Then we will do a bit of an after
show about a couple Apple topics.
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So if you're curious about hosting and
managing containers or you wanna know our
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thoughts on registering for an
attending Microsoft Ignite November,
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this is your show. If you came for the
Apple News, skip ahead about 30 minutes.
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Enjoy the show. Look at you.
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I know fancy right?
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Yes.
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So you sent me this screenshot the
other day that Stream white deck
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was updated to work with O B S 30,
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which is still in beta
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It doesn't just F Y I ,
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not that I would've upgraded to
an O B SS beta just to try it,
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but it doesn't.
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I didn't but kudos to you 'cause
I sent you a screenshot and you said
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we're not using that version
of O B S and I said, oh okay.
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I don't know what I'm running, it's fine.
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I don't check on these things
'cause I stay on the stable branch.
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I would assume that they dropped an
update to the mainline stream deck
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software that like powers your entire
macro pad that hey this is where it needs
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to be. Yeah,
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and I went and looked at O B S and
my version of O B SS was still on 29.
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You said 30 was in beta and
I said I'm not gonna bother.
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And then you wrote me back two minutes
later and said, oh but it's beta three.
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Yeah see? Which made me
think, hmm, he's gonna do it,
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he's gonna think it's
stable. I did it and it's.
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Not, it's not.
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There. .
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The nice thing is with O B Ss,
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I will say this about O B S and MAX in
general since Max might turn into the
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theme of the show anyways,
is that usually, not always,
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but usually to downgrade those things
it's super easy. Like for O B Ss,
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you just go download the stable 29.3
0.2 or whatever and you open it up and
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you copy it and overwrite 30 and
everything's back to normal. Yeah,
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I don't feel like Windows
is always that easy. I.
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Have a favorite little
app if you're on Mac
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os, where is it?
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I'm gonna be looking off to the side
'cause I'm on my other monitor here.
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So normally on Mac oss,
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like for people who haven't done it a
whole bunch before or maybe you're new
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to the Mac,
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like typically you'll download what's
called disc image like A D M G. Yep.
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And you mount that disc image,
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like you just double click it and it
shows up on your desktop kind of thing,
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mount it and then you'll usually
have to like just a.app file
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and you just drag that.app file into
your applications holder and then you're
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good.
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And I think it gives people the
impression that apps on Mac oss very much
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like iOS, iPad, OSS watch s blah blah,
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all these other OSS things that
Apple has run in a single container.
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Great, I've got.app and then
everything runs in there.
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The reality is apps do all sorts of stuff
like they might install in some cases
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drivers,
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they might have custom configurations
like files do get outside the app bundles.
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So there's a little app out
there, it's called App Cleaner.
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So what I like to do when I like reinstall
or install over the top or anything
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like that and this is totally free,
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you just go grab app cleaner and you drag
your app into app cleaner when you're
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ready to delete it. Okay.
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And it takes the.app bundle and then it
crawls your hard drive and figures out
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like the rest of the stuff.
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Is there anything else in like your user
library and system library Are there
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maybe like dot files,
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like configuration files and like hidden
dot directories in your home folder,
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things like that. And it helps you just
like really clean it up and wipe it out.
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Super helpful for software like
Adobe software that installs all
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sorts of crap outside the app bundle.
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Certainly things like the stream deck
which you know has stuff floating all over
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the side.
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I imagine O P Ss has to have some
stuff outside the app bundle just for
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configuration and other
stuff. So you never know,
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okay if I'm going from V 30 to V 29,
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did something get updated
in the V 30 configuration,
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now it's gonna wipe out my
blah blah blah whatever.
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So generally a good
practice to to go through.
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I might install too much stuff on my Mac
and because I install too much stuff on
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my Mac, I'm always going back and
uninstalling it. , uhhuh,
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. It's, it's a way
to live one's life if you will.
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,
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I don't use App cleaner but I
use Clean my Mac and that has
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something very similar to that where it
has an uninstall feature and there's a
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couple different ways that one actually
shows up in that. One, I can open up,
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clean my Mac,
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go look through all my apps and pick the
ones I wanna uninstall and actually use
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their uninstaller and they do something
similar. Go crawl the hard drive,
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find all the other stuff that it
shoved into corners in your Mac.
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The other way it works is it,
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we'll just run in the background
and if I drag an app to the trash,
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'cause that's how Apple tells
you to uninstall a app. If it,
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I clean my MacBook watch and say do you
wanna installed this by dragging it to
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the trash or something to that effect.
It may not have uninstalled everything.
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Do you want to go clean up the rest of
the files and I can click yes and then
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it'll go grab the rest of
the stuff as well. Yeah.
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I can't remember.
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It's been a while since I've seen
or taken a look at Clean My Mac.
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But is the uninstall
functionality free? 'cause clean,
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my app is typically like a,
it's a paid thing, right?
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So if all you're looking for is
delete your app then app cleaners the
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the way to go.
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The free one.
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It is the thing to do. But clean my app
is clean my Mac, I think it's clean.
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My Mac X is like the
official name of it. Yeah.
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Is another good one
that's sitting out there.
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If you're looking for a paid app that
not only can do like the delete thing but
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it can do a lot of other
stuff too. It it can.
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Yes.
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Like it has a scanner to clean up a bunch
of random junk that just accumulates
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or free up ram that certain
applications teams may
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take a bunch of, it has
an updater built into it.
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So I will go use that updater
sometimes shredder like
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actually delete stuff, not just hide,
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delete it where it goes and
rewrites your drive. It's got,
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I've used when I had some Mac
at smaller storage spaces,
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stuff like space lens and large
old files too if you're trying to
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reclaim some space.
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So it is absolutely paid and
like you said it is a suite of
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like maintenance type
tools for your Mac. It's.
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Got some stuff going on. So yeah, that's,
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that's another option that's out there.
Hey I have a question for you. Okay,
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so yesterday, well what's
today? Today is the.
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Wednesday.
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I don't even know day's
the week the 13th. Yeah.
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Today's a Wednesday. Wednesday the 13th.
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It's early in the morning.
Wednesday the 13th.
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So yesterday was Apple's annual iPhone
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watch thing event. Yep. And
while that was going on,
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'cause it was like a boring show to watch,
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I was doing some other stuff
on my home network here.
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So I think I've mentioned in
the past that I run containers,
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like a bunch of containers on my
on, on my nas, on my qap. Yep.
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So things like HomeBridge,
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I've got scripted running on there
for bringing my cameras into home kit.
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I run Plex as a container on there.
Like all all sorts of stuff like that.
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One of the frustrations for me,
particularly with NASS vendors,
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be it QAPs, Sonology,
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all these things is they have like very
opinionated interfaces for container
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management. So when I like a
qap that's Container station,
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I freaking forget off the top of my
head what Sonology calls there. I.
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Can't remember. I could
go look. They basically.
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Have like these bespoke interfaces
for managing containers,
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be it managing container images,
managing running instances of containers,
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container configurations,
heck what runtime your
container is gonna use, right?
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Does it use run C? Is it an
lxc, is it an L X D container?
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Like all that kind of stuff. So
because they're so opinionated,
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I'm not used to them 'cause you don't run
into containers in the real world that
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way. Like at least the other
things I do in my job, right?
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If I'm working on like
a Kubernetes cluster,
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I'm on the command line and I'm
using cobe control or or cobe
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Cuddle for those who are monsters ,
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you do things like that or you're on the
command line and you're just doing like
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docker, run, docker compose,
all those kinds of things.
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And I can do all that on qap like
I imagine you can do the same on
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Synology, go ahead and s s H into your
NAS and then then play with it that way.
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Sometimes it's too heavy handed. So,
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so yesterday I had a new version of
the scripted container that I wanted
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to go and update and run.
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And the way you do that
in the qap software is
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you would take the existing
container, go look at it,
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go through the gooey page by page,
take screenshots of configuration,
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copy pasta, like whatever you're gonna do,
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delete that container and then recreate
it and then hope that you got all those
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settings right. Again, like it is a
horrible way it lives one's life, right?
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If all you're trying to do is update
a container to like the latest version
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because you have to remember
all that and it's super manual.
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So I've been looking for a way
around this for a while where I,
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I don't necessarily always
want to go to the command line.
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So I'm a big fan of Docker
run and things like that,
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but I don't always want to have to do it.
Like sometimes a gooey is just easier,
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especially for a one click update me to
the latest version of this container.
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So I started playing around with a
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container management
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tool called Port Container. I, so I,
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I don't know if you've ever
seen this one but poor container
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is at least for like the community
edition that's out there,
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it's like a dashboard for
managing your containers,
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your container images,
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like all the same things that
you can do in your native
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like gooey software just with all
the bells and whistles you want.
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So for me to update a
container to the latest image,
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all I have to do is go in and hit recreate
and port container and it remembers
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all the settings.
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Like pulls in all the settings from the
current running container and then it
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just does a docker pull
grabs the later image,
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the latest image and redeploys for me.
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So my question is are you running
containers? And if you are,
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how are you managing them? Are
you like a command line person?
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Are you using something like
just a built-in software?
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Are you like maybe you're already on
Porter and you never told me about it or
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are you using something
else that's out there?
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And keep in mind this is totally
for the home network kind of thing.
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This isn't me trying to manage some crazy
application at scale in the cloud or
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anything. This is like my home cloud
, getting all that going. My.
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Home environment,
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I use very few containers
in those that I do.
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I just don't use 'em that much.
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And I think this is one I've just
never done much with containers.
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So I would say from a
comfort level, what kind.
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Of life are you living
over there? I don't write.
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So from a comfort level
I just, I don't do it.
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And the things you mentioned, so
I know you're running a few for,
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you mentioned like home assistant
and Plex and some of those I run
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Plex natively right on my nas. So I
didn't mess with a Plex container,
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I just installed the Plex app
right on my Sonology, well.
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I run multiple plex servers so I,
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I also run a plex server on my NAS and
then I have some one-off Plex servers for
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like a concert library and some other
things that I just didn't want to junk up
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my my my is.
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Your normal, see no this is your problem.
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You're just overcomplicating
your life. . I.
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Don't know that I am ho Hold on.
So I'm gonna log into Porter.
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Okay really quick.
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So well you do, that's what
I do for Plex Home assistant.
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I actually run it on a raspberry pie.
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So I bought like a little rack
mount and I did a P O E hat for
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my raspberry pie and that's what
I do for home assistant versus
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running all the different doctor images
for the different home assistant stuff.
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I did some stuff. So
the containers I do run,
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it's unify reporting stuff,
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it gives you some additional
unified logging and reporting and I
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spun 'em up, I was playing with
it. I don't use them a ton.
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using the built in UI on my
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synology for running those containers.
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So I don't mess with the command line or
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anything like that. I don't
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Synology at least to me is pretty
straightforward. But again,
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because I'm not go run containers every
day and build them and blow 'em away and
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upgrade 'em and all of that
isn't something that has
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come up. And even if you
ask me like Azure topics,
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all of that containers would be
right down near the bottom of my list
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in terms of my comfort level with
managing them, implementing them,
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all of that.
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not something I do on a daily basis. Oh.
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Well that's super interesting.
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Funny enough, the very first one
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So I'm running my container
management interface as a container.
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As a container.
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Just to be, yeah, just to be
like extra, extra made there.
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I've got a Plex Media server
running in a Docker container.
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I've got a Minecraft bedrock
server for my kids HomeBridge
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home assistant and I have all the
Plex supporting things in here.
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Sonar Radar jacket,
all that kind of stuff.
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Also a one of those clients that can
grab things off the back of a truck and
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do all that kinda stuff.
And then scripted,
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I also run in a container
and then occasionally I
bring in things just like at
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Runtime to spin them up. So, uh,
you're a Plex user. I'm a Plex user.
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Sometimes when you bring things into Plex,
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depending on the clients that
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like my parents have like an old ro
uh, Roku box and they log into mine.
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certain formats to get it to just do a
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direct stream without transcoding.
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Like I'd rather just do all that
compute up front and get it done.
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So I have a container that has a bunch of,
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has F F M PEG and a bunch of other like
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So I just spin up that container
and then I just can basically say,
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Hey run this shell file
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whatever it is M K V, MK MP
four a A v i, blah blah blah.
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that I know is not going to transcode
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when my parents watch it later.
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got it. Yeah. See I just don't,
I don't have all of that stuff. I'm.
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Surprised to hear you're
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we gotta get you into that.
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Probably I need to find, so truth be
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Like I've just always never,
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I've never had a big enough need for
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We can find something.
I'm sure like there,
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there's a contact form on the
website. There's people on Discord.
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Tell us what containers Ben
should be running and he's missing
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out on in his life.
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So you're not gonna help me in my quest
here to find his porter the answer for
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what I want or is there
something else out there?
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I am not. It would be interesting
to do a comparison though of Yeah,
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all of that stuff. You're not
gonna be able to get to my nas. I.
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I.
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. Yeah. Uh, the joys of using
shared workspaces and etches. I see Ben.
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Ooh I know what IP your NAS runs on IP
and Port doesn't do me any good. Yeah.
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You do. It's a 1 92, 1
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I did not go to my public IP address.
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There is a public way to get into
it but I think it's D N Ss and yeah,
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same thing.
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All right, so that's
neither here nor there.
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What else do we got? We
were talking Apple stuff.
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So we were talking Apple,
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but before that I have a question for
you that came up in Discord and as it's
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getting closer, it just started pouring
out here. Squirrel, someone asked in.
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It is hot here. Like I'm in hot,
humid, sweaty mode over here.
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So oh,
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I should go open my blind so I can see
how hard it's raining 'cause it sounds
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like it's raining really hard.
Anyways, somebody asked in Discord,
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are we gonna go to IGN night in
Seattle? So that is coming up Scott.
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I have started seeing a few
more things for this and
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Ignite in Seattle appears
that registration must have
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just opened because I did just start
seeing a bunch of stuff for this just.
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In the last couple days. Yeah, yeah.
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So it's in Seattle again,
similar to last year,
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November 17 through something
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14 through 17. So that three day,
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14, 15, 16, 17. But I don't know how
much is on the first day in the last day,
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uh, I don't see a session but there
is an early bird deal right now.
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$1,500.
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So this may be cheaper than last year.
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I think last year was like two grand
and they have a buy three get one deal
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going on. So if we find four podcast
listeners that all want to go,
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we can buy three and get
one free on the website.
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They do have the comparisons between
Seattle in person and it is gonna
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be digital online again.
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So two different options to go. Are
we gonna go, Scott, are you gonna go?
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What is your thoughts?
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I know you end up in a different boat
working for Microsoft a little bit.
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I think.
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As of right now I have no intention
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of going. So I,
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I think Ignite like taking
it back for a second,
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Microsoft used to have a bunch of
conferences and there was things like
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Ignites and there was Tech Readies
and there's builds and they all
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focus on different audiences and different
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skill sets and things like that. And
over time Ignites kind of turned into,
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okay, it's the one conference
that rolls everything up and it's
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marketing architecture,
technical, deep dives,
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all those kinds of things. Like hey,
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what's the in-depth kind of technical
content that I can get across this
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stuff? And for better or worse,
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as the more technical
conferences have gone away,
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ignite is a marketing event.
I I think holistically,
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right? If you look at all the
sessions that come out, it's,
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and very much so this is the way
it should be. It's like, hey,
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here's what's new. Here's what you
might've missed in the past six months.
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Heck here's what you might've
missed in the past year.
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All all those kinds of
things like that. So for me,
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and I would probably argue
for somebody like you,
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like we tend to keep up with the
news, right? It's part of the job.
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So I don't need 85, 90% of
the content that's there.
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Like I'm already gonna get it or
or consume it in in some other way.
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So I,
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I don't know that it's worth $2,000
'cause that's really what it's gonna be,
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right? It's gonna be 1500 plus
you and I are on the East coast,
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like that's easy. A $400 plane
ticket to get to Seattle,
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probably another 500 to a thousand
for hotel in downtown Seattle given
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rates and things like that. So
really it's like a $3,000 trip.
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Like we've easily doubled it.
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I don't know that it's worth $3,000 for
the hallway track unless there's some
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other major reason to be there. And
I, and I think you can get a sense.
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So one of the things Microsoft does
every year with Ignite is they also
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release, I I don't know if
you've ever looked at these,
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the email templates that they put out
to give to like your manager to justify
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the cost or things like that. And I,
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I find that to be a good way
to go out and just see hey,
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what are they at and what are they doing
and, and how are things gonna look?
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So I went out and downloaded
the one for this year. So okay,
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what opens up like, hi,
my name is blah blah blah.
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I would like to attend Microsoft Ignite
on November 14 to 17 20 23 at the
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summit building in the
Seattle Convention Center.
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Microsoft Ignite is where I can
participate in world-class training and
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technology demonstrations that provide
insights into Microsoft's innovations
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with ai.
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So I can gain invaluable skills
to maximize my impact within
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our organization to accelerate
innovation and productivity
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as a technologist.
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I run into like slight issues
with that stuff, right?
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Like I, I get that you have to
do demos to show people things,
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but you and I have talked a bunch about
how we're more hands-on kind of folks so
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I'd rather have a deep
dive two-day lab right on,
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on something like hey here's how to use
open AI in Azure and you're not gonna
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get that out of a 15 minute
demo session A along the way.
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So that's like how it opens up. Great.
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We're gonna look at Microsoft's
innovations with ai.
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If I'm not interested in ai, like
I'm already potentially off the cuff,
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next paragraph,
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attending in person will allow me the
additional benefit to connect with
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Microsoft engineers, partnered executives
and other technical decision makers.
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IT implementers developer leaders
and data and security professionals.
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Ooh, that's quite a sentence.
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But basically you're gonna interact
with the PG who is going to be giving
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sessions like the engineering groups and
then all the other attendees out there.
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More importantly, this is a,
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a massive opportunity for me to engage
with hundreds of industry experts who
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will be onsite ready to
answer any questions about
the Microsoft technology we
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use daily.
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Additionally participating will allow me
to dive into topics like security data
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and I data and AI infrastructure,
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cloud native and hybrid business
applications and more choose from over
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140 interactive learning sessions
containing in-depth technical content
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relating to the breakout and
discussions I plan to attend.
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Be the first to learn about emerging
technologies from Microsoft leaders and
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connecting with experts to get answers
to questions I have specific to our
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environment and the following
ongoing projects. And then they say,
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Hey you should insert your projects,
environments and all that stuff here.
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So if you think that you're
looking for dives into topics
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on security data, night infrastructure,
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business applications and more that
you're not gonna be able to see those
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online, I would argue
like the major stuff,
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you're gonna be able
to see all that online.
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Like not to take away from
the in-person experience,
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but this is a hybrid experience where
you've got two days virtual where people
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are effectively getting the same content.
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At least you're seeing the same sessions.
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But if you're there in person and I'm not,
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you absolutely have an opportunity
to go ask additional questions,
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talk to those speakers,
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attend maybe round table sessions or
other stuff that I couldn't as a digital
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attendee, is that worth $1,500
to me? Eh, I don't know.
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Some of the other stuff, hey be the first
to learn about emerging technologies.
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A again,
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everybody's gonna hear that at the same
time it comes out in the book of news.
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The keynotes are all streamed,
all the, all that kind of stuff.
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So I think it's hard in this
virtual world to justify
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some of it. Like it it,
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it is it it's tough and people need
to rationalize it and justify it.
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So for like me personally, unless
my employer is paying for it,
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I don't know,
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like personally I can't justify $3,000
just to go and do the hallway trek. Yeah.
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That's interesting.
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I will say I think you end up in
a little different boat than I do
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because there are not saying
everybody at Microsoft but being
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internal,
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you definitely have access to some of
those people that are a little bit harder
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for others to get access to.
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And I would say even as an M V P,
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there's also some access that I'm able
to get some of the news that we see ahead
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of time that does make it harder.
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I would say my cost too
goes up even more than
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that $3,000 because for me it's
also four days of not working.
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And when I'm hourly and I
don't work for four days,
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not only do I have to pay
$3,000 but I also don't make
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00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,320
X number of dollars because
I'm not working those four days.
451
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,920
I will say I am probably leaning
myself towards not going yet this year.
452
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,593
A couple reasons.
453
00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:53,920
One previous years before they went
to this whole hybrid thing and it was
454
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,840
the big 20,000 person in-person
conference. We would always,
455
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,080
they had media events in all transparency
we got to go as part of the podcast
456
00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:07,240
and to your point, we didn't
have to pay for registration.
457
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:12,200
We still paid some of our own
expenses but it did make the cost
458
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,680
a little bit more feasible. But
also the size of the conference,
459
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,000
like one thing that stood out to me in
that email you read is over 140 sessions,
460
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,560
there's a reason they didn't say over
150 or over 200 sessions if I remember
461
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,560
right. Like the ignite of old
there would be like over 2000
462
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,720
sessions or 1600 sessions,
463
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:38,000
140 sessions to cover all of the
different technology and stuff to me
464
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,440
is not very many. And I start wondering,
465
00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:44,440
and again I don't there the
session catalog isn't out yet.
466
00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:48,440
Is there gonna be enough sessions that
I'm interested in or to your point,
467
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,400
do I care about the sessions? Maybe not.
468
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000
'cause you and I both tended
to go for the hallway track,
469
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:57,280
we'd go find people to
interview for the podcast,
470
00:27:57,830 --> 00:28:02,520
we'd go interview Microsoft
employees about different products,
471
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,680
about different announcements.
472
00:28:03,980 --> 00:28:07,960
We would do stuff from
keynotes and all of that
473
00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:11,360
with this hybrid scenario.
And with it being in Seattle,
474
00:28:11,580 --> 00:28:14,320
we know it's not gonna be
a 20,000 person conference.
475
00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:19,800
Is there gonna be enough people in
person to make that hallway trek
476
00:28:19,930 --> 00:28:24,520
worth it and enough people that to your
point you want to talk to or I want to
477
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,840
talk to that we can't just talk
to already other companies,
478
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,280
other people that maybe this is
your one chance to actually go
479
00:28:33,660 --> 00:28:37,880
corner a Mark Cashman or a Dan Holm or
480
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,960
Carolina or some of those
Microsoft employees that you
481
00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:46,920
see from hear from all the time and you
wanna actually talk to 'em in person.
482
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:50,200
This is a good opportunity to do that,
483
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,120
assuming they're all
gonna be there in person.
484
00:28:53,380 --> 00:28:57,720
And I know that was one piece of feedback
from last year that I don't know that
485
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,920
I've seen addressed yet is there were
a lot of those speakers that were still
486
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,880
virtual last year.
487
00:29:03,260 --> 00:29:07,800
Is this going to have more in-person
interactions than last year
488
00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:12,760
or are you going to go expecting
a bunch of in-person product
489
00:29:12,810 --> 00:29:16,880
group interactions and they're
not actually gonna be there?
490
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,240
I think that's something
else that you have to weigh.
491
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080
I don't know, like you, you and I,
before we started recording today,
492
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,920
we were talking about like the
Apple event from yesterday.
493
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,400
And one of the things I like
about watching the Apple
events is just seeing the
494
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,480
production value and we're like what
they put into it and how they produce it.
495
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:36,160
And that's very much like a byproduct
of the pandemic and and things
496
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,640
like that. Like employees have
moved away, they've gone remote.
497
00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:44,600
If you can record your session from
home or frankly, even if you're like,
498
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,320
you're in Seattle, right?
499
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,680
Like where Microsoft is based in
Redmond and you can drive over to
500
00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:55,600
one of those production studios and
shoot a slick video for your session
501
00:29:56,380 --> 00:29:59,240
and your session's gotta
be broadcast online anyway.
502
00:29:59,510 --> 00:30:03,160
Like I I I can't fault companies
for going down that path, right?
503
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,600
It's in their best interest to put their
best foot forward and then have that
504
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,800
material to be reusable
all all over the place.
505
00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:13,200
So I think you've seen that
as well, like to like, hey,
506
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,640
people might not show up in person 'cause
they already recorded their session a
507
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,240
couple weeks before and it and it
was all produced and ready to go and,
508
00:30:20,260 --> 00:30:22,520
and ready to be streamed
online. Yeah. The other place,
509
00:30:22,550 --> 00:30:27,200
this is super valuable and I tend to
forget it earlier when I was asking about
510
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:27,980
containers who said,
511
00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:31,280
oh I don't do a bunch with containers
and maybe that's something that's not in
512
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,113
my ecosystem.
513
00:30:32,390 --> 00:30:36,640
There's a lot of folks out there who uh,
514
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:40,560
are especially like senior,
not senior leadership,
515
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,520
but even like ics that
tend to be super crosscut
516
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,520
when it comes to how they
deploy Microsoft technologies.
517
00:30:49,020 --> 00:30:50,400
And and sometimes I forget this,
518
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,400
I was talking to a customer the other
day and they're trying to do blah blah
519
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,800
blah secure something in their
storage account and it's like, ooh,
520
00:30:57,820 --> 00:31:00,160
you're like totally
thinking about this wrong.
521
00:31:00,350 --> 00:31:03,560
Like you're thinking about it from the
lens of like just a storage account is
522
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,020
this thing,
523
00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:07,520
you've got this whole other ecosystem
of tools that's available to you, right?
524
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,360
Like it was a,
525
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,120
a data exfiltration convers conversation
and it's like well you're already a
526
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Microsoft customer, right?
You have Microsoft 365,
527
00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:18,560
you have D L P in your environment.
528
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:21,040
Like in the case where
you're trying to collect uh,
529
00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:23,320
get your clients to where they need to be.
530
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:27,160
Like it's very likely you either have
client controls rather than just wholesale
531
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,480
blocking like fully qualified domain
names in the Microsoft environment,
532
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,120
to make your applications work
they need to and to make you feel as a
533
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,800
company like you're secure
and where you need to be.
534
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,440
But because I was talking
to the storage people,
535
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:45,240
they didn't necessarily recognize and
I can't fault them for this 'cause it's
536
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,080
a very wide ecosystem that there's all
this other tooling and stuff that's out
537
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,320
there, right? So, uh,
conferences like Ignite,
538
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,440
like it's not an Azure conference,
it's not a Microsoft 365 conference,
539
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,160
it's a Microsoft conference.
540
00:31:59,540 --> 00:32:04,440
So it's covering the width and
breadth of the entire stack that's out
541
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,880
there. And I think that can be super
valuable and and helpful to folks. Again,
542
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,600
you've gotta rationalize like
in-person versus person versus just
543
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,440
attending virtually. So, uh,
544
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,720
I I think another consideration there
is the dates are a little bit
545
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,180
weird.
546
00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:24,960
So the dates for in-person
are the 14th to the 17th.
547
00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:27,760
Those are not the dates
for the virtual conference.
548
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:31,680
The virtual conference is two days,
which is the 15th to the 16th.
549
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:34,760
And without session catalogs
out yet, like you said,
550
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,040
this is hard to figure out what's the
value add for those extra two days.
551
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:43,680
Is there something in those two days
that's really gonna make it worth your
552
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,880
time? I don't, I don't know.
We're still 62 days as of today.
553
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,920
We're still 62 days out from Ignite.
554
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:51,760
It's gonna take time for the session
catalogs and things to come out.
555
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:56,240
You gotta weigh, ooh do I want early
bird pricing? Do I want regular pricing?
556
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,840
I don't know what it'll be but let's
say it's 500 bucks more $2,000.
557
00:32:59,990 --> 00:33:04,200
Like do you have to wait for session
catalogs and and things like that to come
558
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:04,750
out.
559
00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:06,440
What I will speculate,
560
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:10,360
I'm gonna make some speculations
here that at least the first day,
561
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:15,320
so you said it's 14th through 17th
and 15th through 16th. That 14th.
562
00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:21,280
If you go look at the comparison of
in-person versus online and we'll
563
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,480
put this link in the show notes,
564
00:33:23,140 --> 00:33:27,880
it does say that there's optional
pre-day labs and those are an extra
565
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:30,240
$225 per pre-day lab.
566
00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:34,720
I'm going to assume that those
pre-day labs are on the 14th,
567
00:33:35,540 --> 00:33:40,320
not pre the dates they specified.
So that if you're going,
568
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,080
I was gonna go look at a calendar here
'cause this'll probably tell us 14th is a
569
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,200
Tuesday, huh?
570
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,080
like that's what I don't know
'cause the pre-day labs could be on
571
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,590
Monday.
572
00:33:50,590 --> 00:33:53,920
I've seen them do that before And the
conference actually starts on the 14th.
573
00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:58,440
Is there gonna be additional sessions?
Are those just days where you can go?
574
00:33:58,460 --> 00:34:02,840
Do they do have some live in-person
interactive labs or in-person demos? Keep.
575
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280
In mind do you pay you
pay per lab as well?
576
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,060
Yes.
577
00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:09,720
So there's a two, yes two, $225 uh,
578
00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:11,560
fee per pre-day lab. So.
579
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,680
That's the pre-day lab. Is that the
interactive lab or are they gonna have,
580
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,160
because I know before at Ignite they've
had like lab areas where you can just go
581
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,120
sit down and work through labs where they
just have a bunch of machines set up.
582
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:26,280
It's not a in-person guided lab,
583
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:31,520
it's a computer guided click click type
584
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,080
of lab. So I wasn't sure if that's what,
585
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,840
although in-person interactive that I
wasn't sure what interactive labs were,
586
00:34:37,940 --> 00:34:40,000
if those were the same
as the pre-day labs.
587
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,920
'cause there are two
different bullet points.
588
00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:43,800
It's the problem with marketing, right?
589
00:34:43,870 --> 00:34:48,480
Like I think you and I are folks
who look for clarity here and
590
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,600
unfortunately that clarity is not gonna
come. It's just not there. Another 40,
591
00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:55,240
uh, not for another 45 days .
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
592
00:34:55,410 --> 00:34:57,000
There is an evening celebration,
593
00:34:57,070 --> 00:35:00,920
there's no attendee party like attendee
parties of old it appears but there will
594
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,240
be an evening celebration. So you do get,
595
00:35:04,090 --> 00:35:06,720
there are some added
benefits to going in person.
596
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,680
I think it to your point it's just
weighing is the cost worth it or shoot if
597
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,520
your employer will pay for it, go for it.
598
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,240
I think there's absolutely
still gonna be value in person.
599
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,760
I find way more value in person.
600
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,480
I just don't know if I find that much
more value in person when they're still
601
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,280
doing hybrid.
602
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,720
I would love to see this
go back to the massive
603
00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:29,560
conference.
604
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,360
I would definitely be more likely
to go once I see this show up
605
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:39,240
as like a Vegas conference, an Orlando
conference, a Chicago conference,
606
00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:43,000
Atlanta, one of those five big cities.
607
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,320
I wanna see it in like Munich or London or
608
00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:50,840
Paris. Heck let's do it in like Israel.
609
00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:53,240
You can do Ignite Tel Aviv.
610
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,720
I just need to see it be in a big city.
611
00:35:55,830 --> 00:35:58,720
Even that stuff has slowed down. So I'll,
612
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:00,400
it was a little buried on the Ignite site.
613
00:36:00,470 --> 00:36:04,000
I'll put a link in the show notes for
everybody to that download the convince
614
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,480
your manager letter if you want to take
a look and see if that's something like,
615
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:11,560
if that's the path that anybody wants to
go down and you do need to justify that
616
00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:14,080
and and get it going. But yeah,
617
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,720
E Ignite is out there and
kicking around. We shall see.
618
00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:22,160
That we shall and I do. I'm with you.
619
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,680
I just needed clarity
especially 60 days out.
620
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,720
I feel like this is the
time to buy plane tickets.
621
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,400
I don't wanna buy plane tickets a month
out but I need more clarity before I
622
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,720
would be willing to commit to the
pricing. I think. So we'll see.
623
00:36:34,850 --> 00:36:37,640
We'll keep everybody updated if
we change our minds. .
624
00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:42,000
It'll come as it comes.
Uh, easy enough. Alright.
625
00:36:42,110 --> 00:36:44,040
Well we were gonna talk
about the Apple event too,
626
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,560
but we ran outta time and frankly
Scott, like you said earlier,
627
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,040
I was bored by it. All the
announcements were minuscule to me.
628
00:36:52,090 --> 00:36:54,680
Maybe we'll trickle some
out here and there but.
629
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:56,800
Yeah, I walked away.
630
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,560
I don't feel like I need to spend a
bunch of money like this year. Nope.
631
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,320
You and I were talking offline the other
day about what to do with phones and
632
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:03,740
things like that.
633
00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:07,200
So like I bought a new camera lens the
other day like I'm liking the new camera
634
00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:10,920
lens that I got here so I don't feel so
bad now about spending the money on that
635
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,240
'cause Yeah, .
636
00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:13,520
See I'm the same way that.
637
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:13,920
Could be doing a.
638
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,840
Phone only I bought a truck and the event
did not convince me that I need to go
639
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,240
buy a new phone on top of my truck.
640
00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:23,640
I'm gonna be probably be content with
my phone for another year and I'm very
641
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,760
happy with the truck. So.
642
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:26,640
Yeah, the there you go. Yeah.
643
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,760
I was the same way like previous.
644
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:33,040
Well I feel like it's been lately more
and more updates are incremental and it's
645
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,040
like my phone works, I don't need a faster
phone, I don't need a better camera.
646
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,440
I can update to the latest version of iOS.
647
00:37:41,710 --> 00:37:45,880
This one is A U S B C
charging port worth 11,
648
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,640
$1,200. Probably not yet.
649
00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:54,160
Maybe once my phone dies but I'm
not gonna go spend $1,200 just to get U
650
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,680
S B C charging. Especially
like you and I were talking,
651
00:37:56,780 --> 00:38:01,000
we do a lot of wireless charging like
why do I need a new port if I'm using
652
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,673
wireless charging.
653
00:38:03,110 --> 00:38:04,000
MagSafe all the way,
654
00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:06,640
which now MagSafe iss gonna
come to everything else as well.
655
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,480
So that's the new Q two standard. Uh,
656
00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:13,080
so for those like wireless
charge qi qi charging,
657
00:38:13,870 --> 00:38:18,400
there's a Q two is basically
taking the same magnetic alignment
658
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:23,280
rings that apple's been using in MagSafe
and bringing those into the standard.
659
00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:27,440
So now even Android devices
and things are gonna do that.
660
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,640
Nice little k snap to the ring on the
device, which I really look forward to.
661
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,370
Like I've got like a pixel here that
I keep to play with Android stuff.
662
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:40,920
It is super hard for me to find
like where this goes on the GMAT
663
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,320
that's on my desk versus just like
plopping my phone down and it hits it mag
664
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,960
safe style and boom go goes in
and does what it needs to do.
665
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,400
So I'm looking forward
to things like that. No.
666
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,840
What I did, we said we were done talking
about Apple. I still have a iPhone.
667
00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:54,560
That's fine. This is the after show.
668
00:38:54,590 --> 00:38:58,800
This is the after show. I still have an
iPhone 11 which does not have MagSafe.
669
00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:01,640
It has the key charging but
it doesn't have MagSafe.
670
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,840
I went and bought a MagSafe case
that adds a magnet to the back of it.
671
00:39:06,980 --> 00:39:09,600
So I cheated and instead of
buying a new MagSafe phone,
672
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,520
I just bought like a $30 MagSafe
case or my phone .
673
00:39:14,270 --> 00:39:16,640
Yeah, for the most part,
right? Like it all works,
674
00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:18,800
you just can't use like
mag safe accessories.
675
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,200
I think that's the part where Apple's
gone above and beyond to wireless charging
676
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,480
standards is having like wireless
devices that attach and then can
677
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,480
have additional information in
'em. Like the wallet was fine.
678
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:35,360
My even like their charging brick,
679
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
which funny enough they canceled
or at least they,
680
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,240
they've stopped selling after that event
could communicate like hey how much
681
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:45,560
battery's in the brick versus the
phone and things like that. So I,
682
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:47,360
I don't know. Well we'll
see where it all goes.
683
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,600
But u s BBC's nice but it's not
U S B C on all the things yet.
684
00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:55,440
So there's still other stuff in the
ecosystem that needs to be upgraded.
685
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:59,480
Headphones, AirPods, all, all that
kind of stuff that needs to come along.
686
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,030
Although.
687
00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:03,360
Most of the AirPods they upgraded,
right? At least all the new ones.
688
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:05,120
None of 'em. Oh I thought
there was a couple,
689
00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:08,880
was it just new ones that came
with the U S B C charging case?
690
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,280
I thought I saw one or two.
691
00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:11,880
Not even new ones.
692
00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:16,800
So they have a new U S B C case that
they're gonna start selling with the
693
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:21,160
AirPods Pro two. Okay. Like for
me, so I have AirPods Pro two Yep.
694
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:26,120
That are already in Q Chase,
uh uh Chi case, MagSafe,
695
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,000
blah blah blah, all those kinds of
things. They do a N c, transparency,
696
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,080
blah blah blah. My case is lightning.
697
00:40:32,670 --> 00:40:35,920
They're the new ones are the same AirPods,
698
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,920
like they're the same stems but
they updated the case to be US U
699
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,880
S B C and then apparently they added
something else in the case for like
700
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,200
lossless audio with Division
Pro. But nobody's gonna get,
701
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,440
I mean I would like to get Division Pro
but I'm not gonna get division pro kind
702
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,760
kind of thing to get it going. So yeah,
703
00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:56,200
it's the same stems that I have
today just with a new case.
704
00:40:56,900 --> 00:40:58,280
But they're not gonna
let you buy the new case.
705
00:40:58,430 --> 00:41:00,040
They're gonna make you buy
the whole bundle. They're.
706
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Gonna make you buy all of it.
707
00:41:01,430 --> 00:41:04,680
Yeah and I still have a bunch of old
iPads around the house too that are still
708
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,560
lightning. The kids use
those. Yeah, me too.
709
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,680
So we still have a bunch of lightning
charging ports around so it would maybe
710
00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:15,720
allow me to get rid of lightning in the
bag that I carry when I go places like
711
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:20,760
once every two months. But
it's one cable and again,
712
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:24,080
not worth that much thread radio. Scott,
713
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:27,200
you don't want the thread radio in the
new iPhone that not even Apple knows what
714
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,280
they're going to use it for yet.
715
00:41:28,570 --> 00:41:31,560
Don't want thread radio that I don't
know what's gonna happen. I think.
716
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,560
There's potential.
717
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,010
I did this a while ago.
718
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,970
Grab some if you don't have 'em already,
like the three in one charging cables,
719
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,130
I'll put some links in the show notes.
720
00:41:42,650 --> 00:41:45,130
I really like the anchor
three in one cables,
721
00:41:45,350 --> 00:41:49,010
but it's just a micro U S B 'cause I still
have some micro U S B crap that's out
722
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:51,490
there, right, like speakers
and stuff like that. Yeah.
723
00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:56,330
But then it has the ends to convert
micro U S B into Lightning or U S B C.
724
00:41:56,750 --> 00:42:00,530
So I've taken these things and I've just
peppered them like all over the house.
725
00:42:00,750 --> 00:42:03,170
And then I use just like the GaN chargers,
726
00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:05,130
like the four to six part GaN chargers.
727
00:42:05,490 --> 00:42:08,690
I have those plugged in everywhere and
every single one of them has four of
728
00:42:08,690 --> 00:42:10,210
these U SS B cables,
729
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:13,850
just running off of it
and coming out the other side.
730
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:16,290
And yeah,
731
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:22,450
they work just fine for what they
need to do. Get yourself a three foot,
732
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:23,010
six foot,
733
00:42:23,010 --> 00:42:27,970
three in one charging cable and
you'll be right as rain Perfect as
734
00:42:27,970 --> 00:42:29,050
they say in the movies.
735
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:30,410
Sounds good. Well yeah,
736
00:42:30,450 --> 00:42:33,450
I think that's about all that I
had from the Apple event. Again, I,
737
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,930
nothing jumped out at me.
738
00:42:36,330 --> 00:42:40,610
I think the most exciting thing
for me that I now know is the
739
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,210
release candidate dropped
for iOS and iPad OSS 17
740
00:42:46,070 --> 00:42:50,970
and we know that Sonoma will
be coming out September 28th.
741
00:42:51,570 --> 00:42:56,410
I believe it was the release of iOS
and iPad 17 is coming out this week,
742
00:42:56,510 --> 00:43:01,290
the eight 18th or is it next Monday or
Tuesday? Five days from now. I think I.
743
00:43:01,290 --> 00:43:04,130
Already updated. So I think
this is gonna come out too late.
744
00:43:04,310 --> 00:43:06,770
But may maybe for folks
who don't know this trick,
745
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:09,970
so with the latest iOS stuff,
746
00:43:09,970 --> 00:43:13,690
at least developer and public
betas are open to everybody.
747
00:43:13,690 --> 00:43:14,850
Like you don't need to register,
748
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:17,410
you can just go into your software
settings on your device and do that.
749
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,810
When Apple drops the RCS release
candidates, what you do is,
750
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,570
even if you're haven't been
running the beta the whole time,
751
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:28,890
say you're running like
today, iOS 16 and you go, Ooh,
752
00:43:29,210 --> 00:43:32,930
I want to get on before everybody else
and just beat the rush when the r c comes
753
00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:35,490
out, flip yourself over to
one of the beta profiles,
754
00:43:35,870 --> 00:43:39,330
update to the R S C and then just take
yourself out of the beta program and then
755
00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:41,410
you're all set. You've updated
early and you're ready to go.
756
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:45,610
So I took all my stuff yesterday when
they dropped the release candidates and I
757
00:43:45,610 --> 00:43:48,930
did all my phones tablets,
758
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:53,850
did my watch and everything and just
spent last night and and did that nice and
759
00:43:53,850 --> 00:43:54,280
easy.
760
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,810
Yeah, I did that too. Sonoma. We'll see,
761
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,210
I'll probably do it with my laptop
after I have a conference Friday.
762
00:44:00,810 --> 00:44:03,330
I was not about to touch my
laptop before a conference.
763
00:44:03,450 --> 00:44:06,450
I have learned my lesson , but
as soon as that conference is done,
764
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,530
once I see the RC drop,
I'll probably do the laptop.
765
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:14,610
I won't do my main work driver
of the studio till it's actually
766
00:44:14,850 --> 00:44:18,330
released, until I've vetted
everything on the laptop.
767
00:44:18,330 --> 00:44:21,610
Because even though the release drops,
768
00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:26,930
I have found not all of the software
vendors always update right away
769
00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:32,280
to a version of their software
that supports the RC iOS iPad oss.
770
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,160
I don't seem to have that problem
nearly as much as I do on Mac oss.
771
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:38,440
So I'll test everything on the laptop,
772
00:44:38,510 --> 00:44:40,920
make sure all the stuff
that I use regularly works,
773
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:46,440
and then maybe do the studio or see
if I can convince Scott to do it
774
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:49,880
before I do on his
daily driver. We'll see.
775
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:53,400
Yeah. Yeah. But we'll see. I gotta wait
for the r c to drop for that one. So.
776
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:56,080
Yeah, that's our Apple
News on the after show.
777
00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:59,240
And with that I have some documents
to go write meetings to attend.
778
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,440
I got a meeting, you know.
779
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,880
Conferences to prep for no.
780
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,720
Matter when we record these things in
the afternoon at night. In the morning,
781
00:45:06,110 --> 00:45:09,120
like no matter what it is, there's always
another meeting to go to. It's crazy.
782
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:10,680
Yeah, yeah, we should get to it.
783
00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:11,880
All right, well thanks Scott.
784
00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:14,760
Enjoy your weekend and we'll
talk to you next week. Thanks.
785
00:45:14,820 --> 00:45:15,653
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786
00:45:17,260 --> 00:45:20,960
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