Episode 370 – Revisiting Microsoft 365 Copilot

February 15, 2024

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The restrictions have been lifted for Microsoft 365 Copilot licensing and you can now purchase licenses in tenants with less than 300 users. With the flood gates open, Ben and Scott revisit Microsoft 365 Copilot now that they both have access to it in their own tenants. Is it just a summarization tool? Is it any good for helping out Outlook, Word, PowerPoint, and Microsoft Teams? Listen in and find out!

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1 00:00:03,405 --> 00:00:05,855 - Welcome to episode 370 2 00:00:05,955 --> 00:00:08,455 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro podcast 3 00:00:09,055 --> 00:00:11,735 recorded live on February 9th, 2024. 4 00:00:12,325 --> 00:00:14,735 This is a show about Microsoft 365 5 00:00:14,735 --> 00:00:16,935 and Azure from the perspective of it pros 6 00:00:16,935 --> 00:00:20,335 and end users where we discuss a topic or recent news 7 00:00:20,395 --> 00:00:21,655 and how it relates to you. 8 00:00:22,035 --> 00:00:23,455 In this episode, Ben 9 00:00:23,455 --> 00:00:27,295 and Scott circle back to Microsoft 365 copilot 10 00:00:27,505 --> 00:00:29,295 where they discuss the recent changes 11 00:00:29,435 --> 00:00:33,855 to Microsoft 365 copilot licensing, which now allows tenants 12 00:00:33,855 --> 00:00:36,495 with less than 300 users to purchase licenses. 13 00:00:36,925 --> 00:00:40,975 They shared their experiences with Microsoft 365 copilot 14 00:00:40,975 --> 00:00:42,095 and their own tenants 15 00:00:42,235 --> 00:00:43,655 and explore its capabilities 16 00:00:43,835 --> 00:00:45,735 beyond just a summarization tool. 17 00:00:45,965 --> 00:00:47,975 They also delve into how it can assist 18 00:00:48,005 --> 00:00:49,935 with Outlook, word, PowerPoint. 19 00:00:50,335 --> 00:00:52,535 Microsoft teams tune into this episode 20 00:00:52,595 --> 00:00:55,495 to hear their thoughts and insights on this powerful tool. 21 00:00:57,925 --> 00:01:00,095 Here we are, we shouldn't ramble, 22 00:01:00,095 --> 00:01:01,695 but I've been so scatterbrained this week. 23 00:01:01,845 --> 00:01:03,295 It's been busy the last, 24 00:01:03,715 --> 00:01:05,895 it hasn't slowed down like ever since December. 25 00:01:06,175 --> 00:01:07,535 I started getting busy in December 26 00:01:07,715 --> 00:01:10,215 and I feel like I've just been slammed ever since December 27 00:01:10,815 --> 00:01:11,815 - . 28 00:01:12,125 --> 00:01:14,015 Yeah, it's weird out there, right? 29 00:01:14,205 --> 00:01:16,175 Like I don't know how you feel 30 00:01:16,275 --> 00:01:18,135 or how most folks feel in their job, 31 00:01:18,435 --> 00:01:20,575 but it's pretty easy some days to walk away 32 00:01:20,575 --> 00:01:23,895 and go like, I think I did too much today, . 33 00:01:24,125 --> 00:01:26,015 Like I was, I was talking 34 00:01:26,115 --> 00:01:28,095 to another person on our team the other day 35 00:01:28,435 --> 00:01:32,135 and they go, yeah, I feel like I'm like an FT plus one. 36 00:01:32,285 --> 00:01:35,215 Sometimes it's like, hmm, I don't know 37 00:01:35,215 --> 00:01:37,775 that I could justify like feeling like I'm really 38 00:01:37,775 --> 00:01:38,895 like two Xing it. 39 00:01:39,155 --> 00:01:41,895 But yeah, there's times like definitely like 1.5, 40 00:01:42,465 --> 00:01:45,935 especially when I realize that I'm to the point now 41 00:01:45,935 --> 00:01:47,335 where I'm like on one meeting 42 00:01:47,635 --> 00:01:49,855 but I'm maybe chatting in a window on another meeting 43 00:01:49,915 --> 00:01:52,295 or I'm like, oh hold on, I'll be right back 44 00:01:52,955 --> 00:01:55,015 and be right back is I gotta go join another call 45 00:01:55,035 --> 00:01:57,055 for five minutes and then go take care 46 00:01:57,055 --> 00:01:58,135 of whatever fire is over there 47 00:01:58,135 --> 00:01:59,495 and then come back over the other way. 48 00:01:59,555 --> 00:02:03,455 So, uh, I don't know where rear relief comes 49 00:02:03,555 --> 00:02:04,575 but take time off. 50 00:02:04,635 --> 00:02:06,175 That's, that's what time off is there for. 51 00:02:06,415 --> 00:02:08,255 - I should, but I am totally with you. 52 00:02:08,415 --> 00:02:11,415 I, I just looked I could, I am actually probably close 53 00:02:11,475 --> 00:02:13,255 to one point fiveing it 54 00:02:13,495 --> 00:02:16,695 'cause I looked, it's the 9th of February and 55 00:02:17,045 --> 00:02:20,535 because I do the whole consulting contracting thing, 56 00:02:20,845 --> 00:02:23,295 like I kinda guide how much I'm doing. 57 00:02:23,325 --> 00:02:25,815 There's certain points I wanna hit in terms of number 58 00:02:25,815 --> 00:02:28,095 of hours by certain points of the month, all of that. 59 00:02:28,735 --> 00:02:31,735 Considering that's the ninth, we're not quite a third of, 60 00:02:31,845 --> 00:02:33,935 well it's February, it's a short month 61 00:02:34,275 --> 00:02:36,055 so we are a third of the way through it. 62 00:02:36,155 --> 00:02:38,455 But in terms of hours I'm at about half 63 00:02:38,455 --> 00:02:39,495 of what I normally do. 64 00:02:39,795 --> 00:02:42,295 So current trend, I will work about one 65 00:02:42,295 --> 00:02:45,815 and a half more hours this month than is my goal 66 00:02:46,195 --> 00:02:47,815 or maybe 1.5 x 67 00:02:48,335 --> 00:02:49,335 - . 68 00:02:49,335 --> 00:02:50,095 Not, not just one and a half hours more. 69 00:02:50,235 --> 00:02:51,735 - Yes. 1.5 times. 70 00:02:52,035 --> 00:02:54,695 1.5 times the amount , I mean it makes 71 00:02:54,715 --> 00:02:57,255 for a little nice February bonus when payday comes, 72 00:02:57,475 --> 00:03:00,365 but in terms of my sanity it's not good. 73 00:03:00,585 --> 00:03:02,805 - Not so much. Yeah, no. So I'm curious. 74 00:03:02,985 --> 00:03:06,245 We should do a kind of wraparound on 75 00:03:06,885 --> 00:03:08,005 co-pilot as well. 76 00:03:08,115 --> 00:03:10,285 Okay. Kind of before we get into today's topic. 77 00:03:10,465 --> 00:03:12,805 So I think you've had an opportunity to play 78 00:03:12,805 --> 00:03:15,805 with co-pilot a little bit maybe in sandbox environments, 79 00:03:15,825 --> 00:03:17,965 but certainly like availability out there, 80 00:03:17,965 --> 00:03:19,605 like it's available in more places. 81 00:03:19,985 --> 00:03:24,445 Yes, you have the opportunity to unlock it for personal use. 82 00:03:24,445 --> 00:03:27,285 There's like copilot pro for MSAs 83 00:03:28,105 --> 00:03:30,045 for like Microsoft accounts that you can go 84 00:03:30,045 --> 00:03:31,645 and get for like a personal Microsoft account 85 00:03:31,665 --> 00:03:34,805 for $20 a month and then there's the 86 00:03:35,925 --> 00:03:38,245 M 365 copilot variance, 87 00:03:38,245 --> 00:03:42,445 but those got unlocked for tenants with less than 300 users. 88 00:03:43,205 --> 00:03:47,685 I got access to copilot about a week ago, 89 00:03:47,685 --> 00:03:48,845 maybe a week or two ago. 90 00:03:48,845 --> 00:03:51,085 Okay. I had the flu one week so I was kind of out of it. 91 00:03:51,105 --> 00:03:53,525 But I know there's been a lot of folks that are kind 92 00:03:53,525 --> 00:03:57,405 of coming back and maybe don't have it in their own tenants 93 00:03:57,465 --> 00:04:01,125 yet or certainly not actionable on top of their own data. 94 00:04:01,865 --> 00:04:04,925 And I just kind of wanted to maybe give a little bit 95 00:04:04,925 --> 00:04:08,925 of a review as somebody who recently got access to it 96 00:04:09,065 --> 00:04:11,165 and has admittedly only scratched the surface. 97 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:14,645 But I think I get a sense for, 98 00:04:14,905 --> 00:04:16,845 or I'm starting to get a sense for 99 00:04:16,845 --> 00:04:18,685 where it's helpful for me and my job. 100 00:04:18,905 --> 00:04:21,365 - We could talk about a whole bunch of things we could punt 101 00:04:21,365 --> 00:04:22,685 and go completely to copilot 102 00:04:22,685 --> 00:04:24,205 because there is some interesting things. 103 00:04:24,225 --> 00:04:26,445 So like you said, I had it in Sandbox for a little while 104 00:04:26,665 --> 00:04:31,085 and then shortly after we got it in Sandbox I, 105 00:04:31,595 --> 00:04:33,165 they lowered that limit under 106 00:04:33,165 --> 00:04:34,565 300 and I was like, you know what? 107 00:04:34,565 --> 00:04:37,605 Sandbox is cool, but to your point it's not my data. 108 00:04:38,025 --> 00:04:39,085 So I went 109 00:04:39,085 --> 00:04:42,125 and I bought two licenses 110 00:04:42,265 --> 00:04:44,885 for my tenant the day they dropped that. 111 00:04:45,035 --> 00:04:48,405 Well the day after they dropped that 300 112 00:04:49,595 --> 00:04:51,085 license limit 113 00:04:51,355 --> 00:04:53,405 because the only way 114 00:04:53,545 --> 00:04:56,685 to get it at least, oh it did show up. 115 00:04:56,845 --> 00:04:59,605 I went and looked. The only way to get it like 116 00:04:59,605 --> 00:05:03,485 that first week or so it came out was through a CSP 117 00:05:03,665 --> 00:05:05,325 and my CSP is me, 118 00:05:05,385 --> 00:05:08,925 but my company I used for my CSP 119 00:05:09,055 --> 00:05:10,445 - Weird limitation by the way. 120 00:05:10,545 --> 00:05:12,605 - Yes. The company I use for my CSP, 121 00:05:12,725 --> 00:05:15,005 'cause I'm like, I think it's technically an indirect CSP 122 00:05:15,305 --> 00:05:16,685 didn't have it available in their 123 00:05:16,685 --> 00:05:17,885 marketplace till the day after. 124 00:05:18,145 --> 00:05:19,205 So then I went and got it. 125 00:05:19,585 --> 00:05:23,205 It does look like now you can go get it through 126 00:05:23,795 --> 00:05:26,485 just the normal M 365 marketplace. 127 00:05:26,485 --> 00:05:29,125 It just logged in as an admin and another tenant 128 00:05:29,505 --> 00:05:34,245 and it is showing up there as available to just go in 129 00:05:34,245 --> 00:05:38,245 and purchase right through the 130 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:40,365 like admin do microsoft.com. 131 00:05:40,545 --> 00:05:42,405 But I have had the chance to use it some too. 132 00:05:42,785 --> 00:05:45,005 So do you wanna talk about uses for it? 133 00:05:45,005 --> 00:05:47,045 How much do you wanna talk about copilot today Scott? 134 00:05:47,285 --> 00:05:48,805 - I was gonna kind of scratch the surface of it, 135 00:05:48,805 --> 00:05:50,645 but we keep going down this rabbit hole. Okay. 136 00:05:50,705 --> 00:05:51,805 - We can scratch the surface. 137 00:05:52,285 --> 00:05:56,885 - I will say as someone who also pays for chat GPT, 138 00:05:57,115 --> 00:06:00,525 like I wanted access to chat GPT plus 139 00:06:00,705 --> 00:06:01,885 and kind of the different models 140 00:06:02,185 --> 00:06:03,765 and things that come along with it. 141 00:06:03,795 --> 00:06:08,725 Like I was really down on chat GPT, 142 00:06:08,725 --> 00:06:10,925 like I, I was seeing a lot of the examples 143 00:06:10,925 --> 00:06:13,245 that were out there for what folks were doing with it 144 00:06:13,985 --> 00:06:18,005 and I was either physically constrained 145 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:21,965 or artificially constrained due to 146 00:06:22,715 --> 00:06:24,085 like my employer and the nature 147 00:06:24,105 --> 00:06:25,445 of things that I work on, right? 148 00:06:25,445 --> 00:06:27,325 Like so like lots of stuff is NDA 149 00:06:27,325 --> 00:06:30,525 so I can't take say like an internal roadmap 150 00:06:31,145 --> 00:06:33,965 or like an internal strategy in a given area 151 00:06:33,985 --> 00:06:37,325 and like copy pasta that thing and put it over in chat GPT. 152 00:06:37,435 --> 00:06:38,885 Like that's just not gonna fly. 153 00:06:39,035 --> 00:06:40,685 It's not gonna work and I'm not gonna do it. 154 00:06:41,105 --> 00:06:44,085 So I think for like for me chat GPT 155 00:06:44,465 --> 00:06:48,525 and even co-Pilot Pro, like I'm missing out on a lot 156 00:06:48,525 --> 00:06:50,245 of the things that would make it valuable to me 157 00:06:50,245 --> 00:06:54,205 because back to that whole like were like 1.5 x-ing our 158 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:56,685 jobs, like we're spending almost more time at work than we 159 00:06:56,685 --> 00:06:58,245 are on the personal stuff at this point. 160 00:06:58,745 --> 00:07:00,765 So that's where like all the data and all the gravity 161 00:07:01,305 --> 00:07:05,245 and all the things live, I've also found 162 00:07:05,435 --> 00:07:09,445 that chat GPT is like a singular tool is 163 00:07:09,995 --> 00:07:12,845 very much just that like it is siloed and, and it 164 00:07:12,845 --> 00:07:16,485 and it's very off on its own versus co-pilot which has kind 165 00:07:16,485 --> 00:07:19,445 of been a little bit muddy in the M 365 space for me. 166 00:07:19,475 --> 00:07:22,005 Like what's the distinction like say 167 00:07:22,005 --> 00:07:24,725 with like a team's premium feature like meeting recaps 168 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:26,405 versus co-pilot, 169 00:07:26,405 --> 00:07:28,485 like the whole nuance is lost on me at this point 170 00:07:28,485 --> 00:07:30,965 because there's things like generative AI 171 00:07:30,965 --> 00:07:32,485 that runs across the transcript 172 00:07:32,625 --> 00:07:35,645 and gives you, you know, an overview of the meeting 173 00:07:35,745 --> 00:07:37,845 and what was said in it, what are next steps, 174 00:07:37,905 --> 00:07:39,565 action items, all those kinds of things. 175 00:07:40,425 --> 00:07:43,365 So what I like about it off the cuff is 176 00:07:44,425 --> 00:07:48,645 having access to a rich set of like features 177 00:07:48,945 --> 00:07:52,365 for generative AI across workloads is kind of awesome 178 00:07:52,685 --> 00:07:54,285 'cause it's, it's very consistent in that. 179 00:07:54,385 --> 00:07:56,565 So things like teams like hey 180 00:07:56,585 --> 00:07:57,805 I'm gonna record a teams meeting. 181 00:07:57,805 --> 00:08:00,085 That meeting is going to be transcribed and 182 00:08:00,085 --> 00:08:03,085 because it's transcribed, the large language model 183 00:08:03,085 --> 00:08:06,725 that copilot uses can run across it for summarization. 184 00:08:06,905 --> 00:08:10,965 So things for like meeting recap that stuff is awesome. 185 00:08:11,485 --> 00:08:14,125 I think the way I framed it like in in the Discord is like 186 00:08:14,195 --> 00:08:17,365 it's really clutch, it's hit or miss with names like 187 00:08:17,505 --> 00:08:20,245 and that's to be expected to a certain degree. 188 00:08:20,365 --> 00:08:24,245 I think like I work for a multicultural multinational 189 00:08:24,245 --> 00:08:26,805 organization like I don't expect it 190 00:08:26,805 --> 00:08:30,005 to nail every single name that it puts into things either 191 00:08:30,185 --> 00:08:31,685 for people or products 192 00:08:32,145 --> 00:08:36,445 but like gets close enough that I can figure it all out. 193 00:08:37,165 --> 00:08:38,405 I think the best things there 194 00:08:38,585 --> 00:08:43,005 for like the generative meeting recaps is auto capture 195 00:08:43,065 --> 00:08:46,005 of next steps surprisingly accurate 196 00:08:46,105 --> 00:08:47,525 and doesn't hallucinate a lot. 197 00:08:47,815 --> 00:08:50,325 Seems to hallucinate a little bit more in the notes maybe 198 00:08:50,825 --> 00:08:53,045 and I think it's just giving like extra alliteration 199 00:08:53,045 --> 00:08:57,405 sometimes than it does in things like next steps. 200 00:08:57,665 --> 00:09:00,045 And then I think like, and this is again muddy for me, 201 00:09:00,075 --> 00:09:03,005 there's some kind of cool features in like meeting recap in 202 00:09:03,005 --> 00:09:04,725 teams itself and the team's client 203 00:09:04,745 --> 00:09:08,645 and the new client that they kind of like go together 204 00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:11,445 with the generative AI and the summarization 205 00:09:11,665 --> 00:09:12,965 and they make it all really cool. 206 00:09:13,185 --> 00:09:14,885 So like on the meeting recap pane, 207 00:09:14,885 --> 00:09:17,965 now when you hit play on the recording you can actually jump 208 00:09:17,985 --> 00:09:19,445 to like where the person is talking. 209 00:09:19,545 --> 00:09:21,205 So I know a stream could always jump to 210 00:09:21,205 --> 00:09:22,205 where it was in the transcript, 211 00:09:22,545 --> 00:09:24,845 but this gives you a bunch of visual indicators. 212 00:09:24,945 --> 00:09:27,005 So like I can see that like, oh Ben 213 00:09:27,005 --> 00:09:29,005 and Scott are in this meeting and I'll actually see a row 214 00:09:29,105 --> 00:09:30,765 for Scott and a row for Ben 215 00:09:31,025 --> 00:09:33,885 and then I can click just where Ben talked like I know like, 216 00:09:33,885 --> 00:09:35,245 hey about 30 minutes into this meeting 217 00:09:35,305 --> 00:09:36,445 Ben talked about this thing here. 218 00:09:36,985 --> 00:09:39,045 You can just go ahead and click that 219 00:09:39,225 --> 00:09:40,605 and pull it up and it's all good. 220 00:09:40,785 --> 00:09:45,325 It also does an excellent job of extracting the meeting chat 221 00:09:45,785 --> 00:09:48,085 and any of the artifacts included in the meeting chat. 222 00:09:48,145 --> 00:09:51,245 So I don't know about, you hop on a lot of, I hop on a lot 223 00:09:51,245 --> 00:09:54,165 of meetings and things like links to docs 224 00:09:54,165 --> 00:09:55,405 or links to external sites. 225 00:09:55,465 --> 00:09:57,365 All those things are shared in the meeting chat 226 00:09:57,985 --> 00:10:01,285 and the recap just pulls all that stuff together. 227 00:10:01,305 --> 00:10:05,925 So that's super cool. Another team slash copilot crossover 228 00:10:06,545 --> 00:10:09,685 is co-pilot in a teams meeting 229 00:10:09,705 --> 00:10:11,805 that's already in progress and being recorded. 230 00:10:12,305 --> 00:10:16,565 So you can have access to copilot chat as like chat just 231 00:10:16,585 --> 00:10:20,365 for me between me and copilot while a meeting is going on. 232 00:10:20,905 --> 00:10:24,525 So that's great if you're in passive meetings, 233 00:10:24,635 --> 00:10:27,285 like you can actually ask copilot like hey 234 00:10:27,285 --> 00:10:29,005 what just happened in the last three minutes? 235 00:10:29,065 --> 00:10:31,245 And it'll go back in the transcript and pull it out for you. 236 00:10:31,245 --> 00:10:33,125 Like if you misheard something like you don't have 237 00:10:33,125 --> 00:10:35,445 to stop the whole meeting and interrupt if you're a couple 238 00:10:35,445 --> 00:10:38,445 minutes late to a meeting you can say in copilot, 239 00:10:38,445 --> 00:10:41,605 just catch me up and it just goes back 240 00:10:41,605 --> 00:10:43,005 and kind of ingests the transcript 241 00:10:43,025 --> 00:10:44,165 and gets it to where it needs to be. 242 00:10:45,275 --> 00:10:46,525 Such cool features 243 00:10:46,675 --> 00:10:49,365 that I'm basically recording every single 244 00:10:49,365 --> 00:10:50,485 teams meeting I'm in. 245 00:10:50,485 --> 00:10:52,685 Whether it's like a meeting that I set up personally, 246 00:10:52,755 --> 00:10:55,205 like I'm kind of like recording everything other than 247 00:10:55,205 --> 00:10:58,605 one-on-ones right now because I'm finding it so valuable 248 00:10:58,705 --> 00:11:03,325 to have access to the generative AI summaries, 249 00:11:03,745 --> 00:11:06,325 recaps and just the ongoing things in there 250 00:11:06,505 --> 00:11:08,085 and even the ability to go back later. 251 00:11:08,195 --> 00:11:10,365 Like you can go to copilot in teams 252 00:11:10,915 --> 00:11:14,845 like your actual copilot app in teams or your copilot chat 253 00:11:15,145 --> 00:11:18,045 and you can say like, Hey tell me what happened 254 00:11:18,075 --> 00:11:21,445 between Scott and Ben in that meeting last week on Friday. 255 00:11:22,065 --> 00:11:23,765 And as long as this thing's recorded 256 00:11:23,785 --> 00:11:25,365 and it's out there, it'll just go back 257 00:11:25,365 --> 00:11:26,605 and scrape the transcript. 258 00:11:26,655 --> 00:11:29,445 It'll scrape the chat from the meeting and all the things 259 00:11:29,465 --> 00:11:31,685 and kind of like give you like a net new like 260 00:11:31,915 --> 00:11:33,405 mini recap right there. 261 00:11:34,145 --> 00:11:35,725 So it's all very good for that. 262 00:11:36,285 --> 00:11:40,885 I also like the generative AI for presentations. 263 00:11:41,465 --> 00:11:45,605 So copilot in PowerPoint like hey go take this 264 00:11:46,525 --> 00:11:50,005 specification or this kind of like product requirement doc 265 00:11:50,385 --> 00:11:53,525 or this, you know, deck on a status update, whatever it was 266 00:11:54,025 --> 00:11:56,365 and turn it into this other thing. 267 00:11:57,065 --> 00:11:59,925 And that's good when it works. 268 00:12:00,485 --> 00:12:02,605 I don't think it works as often as it's supposed to. 269 00:12:02,945 --> 00:12:06,525 Mostly because of token limits in the language models. 270 00:12:06,825 --> 00:12:08,325 So I think I'm really running into the problem 271 00:12:08,325 --> 00:12:12,365 where like a 20 page doc is just too much versus like a two 272 00:12:12,365 --> 00:12:15,325 page doc for it to ingest 273 00:12:15,705 --> 00:12:18,685 and put all of those things together. 274 00:12:18,985 --> 00:12:21,285 So like when it hits it's awesome. 275 00:12:21,435 --> 00:12:22,805 It's like ooh that's great. 276 00:12:23,545 --> 00:12:26,005 It just isn't a hit maybe as much of some 277 00:12:26,005 --> 00:12:27,685 of these stuff in teams 278 00:12:28,105 --> 00:12:30,445 and it's very nebulous to me as an end user. 279 00:12:30,555 --> 00:12:32,085 Like what am I actually encountering? 280 00:12:32,085 --> 00:12:34,445 What's, what's the limitation? Is it token limits? 281 00:12:34,865 --> 00:12:38,525 Should I only be working with docs that are 282 00:12:38,525 --> 00:12:41,405 of a certain size, be it number of pages? 283 00:12:41,805 --> 00:12:43,645 I imagine it's gotta be like number of words, right? 284 00:12:43,705 --> 00:12:46,205 For the tokens that are driven into the LLM 285 00:12:46,205 --> 00:12:48,845 or something like that but it's kind of opaque 286 00:12:49,305 --> 00:12:50,925 and not great there. 287 00:12:51,625 --> 00:12:55,085 And then I think my last point about all of this stuff is, 288 00:12:55,865 --> 00:12:58,245 and I was kind of getting here with chat GBT as well 289 00:12:58,865 --> 00:13:01,805 is you do have to become a prompt engineer. 290 00:13:02,185 --> 00:13:03,805 So kind of taking a step back 291 00:13:03,805 --> 00:13:08,005 and saying like, hey, this thing that I'm using is a tool, 292 00:13:08,425 --> 00:13:10,485 what's the best way for me to use this tool? 293 00:13:10,615 --> 00:13:12,885 Which I imagine lots of us do in other places, right? 294 00:13:12,915 --> 00:13:13,965 Like most 295 00:13:13,965 --> 00:13:16,285 of the people I know don't just type random 296 00:13:16,395 --> 00:13:17,845 strings into a Google search. 297 00:13:17,845 --> 00:13:20,285 They know how to like constrain strings with quotes. 298 00:13:20,285 --> 00:13:23,405 They know how to put binary operators in there like show me 299 00:13:23,405 --> 00:13:24,645 this but not this thing. 300 00:13:24,645 --> 00:13:27,725 They know how to dial it into like a certain file type like 301 00:13:27,725 --> 00:13:31,285 hey search for you know, just PDFs in in my search results 302 00:13:31,425 --> 00:13:32,565 and and things like that. 303 00:13:33,225 --> 00:13:35,925 And just the way you learn to be a power user 304 00:13:36,105 --> 00:13:38,405 for things like maybe like Google search 305 00:13:39,145 --> 00:13:41,245 or you learned all the keyboard shortcuts 306 00:13:41,545 --> 00:13:44,325 and a bunch of like power functions and Excel 307 00:13:44,425 --> 00:13:45,445 or anything else like that. 308 00:13:45,475 --> 00:13:47,285 Like you do have to go back 309 00:13:47,305 --> 00:13:50,365 and spend time on prompt engineering 310 00:13:50,995 --> 00:13:52,405 what makes a good prompt 311 00:13:53,025 --> 00:13:57,965 and how you can get things to kind of where they need 312 00:13:57,965 --> 00:13:59,525 to be in prompt plans. 313 00:13:59,665 --> 00:14:02,925 So one of my suggestions there is 314 00:14:03,645 --> 00:14:08,245 Microsoft has a site that they stood up as part of copilot. 315 00:14:08,945 --> 00:14:13,685 So if you go to copilot.microsoft dot coms, 316 00:14:13,915 --> 00:14:18,125 copilot.cloud, do microsoft.copilot.cloud.microsoft man, 317 00:14:18,125 --> 00:14:20,365 these dude new like.cloud things are killing me. 318 00:14:21,035 --> 00:14:24,165 Copilot cloud microsoft slash prompts. 319 00:14:24,745 --> 00:14:28,685 It brings you into a like structured prompt experience 320 00:14:29,265 --> 00:14:31,405 and it helps you just kind of figure out like hey, 321 00:14:31,405 --> 00:14:33,245 what are some getting started prompts maybe 322 00:14:33,245 --> 00:14:35,885 what are some more advanced prompts that I can do 323 00:14:36,355 --> 00:14:40,365 with this tool to make it all kind of come together 324 00:14:40,665 --> 00:14:42,365 and really shine for me? 325 00:14:42,635 --> 00:14:44,005 - It's been interesting. So it's, 326 00:14:44,345 --> 00:14:47,685 you've primarily just been using Athe in teams 327 00:14:47,785 --> 00:14:49,045 and maybe a little bit in the office 328 00:14:49,505 --> 00:14:51,610 or like meetings focused on meetings. 329 00:14:51,795 --> 00:14:54,205 - I've been using it in teams, 330 00:14:54,595 --> 00:14:56,885 I've been using it in office. 331 00:14:57,625 --> 00:14:59,765 The other place I'm using it a bunch is Outlook. 332 00:15:00,185 --> 00:15:02,205 So I do a lot of email from my phone 333 00:15:02,905 --> 00:15:06,325 and having access to co-pilot on my phone is kind 334 00:15:06,325 --> 00:15:08,645 of cool at, at least inside of Outlook. 335 00:15:09,145 --> 00:15:12,005 So I get, I typically like get a lot of escalations 336 00:15:12,345 --> 00:15:14,085 so I'm added into an email thread 337 00:15:14,085 --> 00:15:15,925 after it's already been going for like a week 338 00:15:15,945 --> 00:15:20,885 and it could already have a chain of you know, 20, 30, 40, 339 00:15:21,445 --> 00:15:22,845 whatever, how many, however many like 340 00:15:23,765 --> 00:15:24,925 responses have already gone through it. 341 00:15:25,345 --> 00:15:27,645 And in the past I've kind of declared bankruptcy, 342 00:15:27,885 --> 00:15:30,005 somebody sends me an email and sometimes I'll look at it 343 00:15:30,005 --> 00:15:32,445 and I'll go like no I'm just not gonna read this. 344 00:15:32,515 --> 00:15:34,605 Like you really need to summarize it for me, right? 345 00:15:34,605 --> 00:15:36,485 Like gimme a recap of where things are at, 346 00:15:37,015 --> 00:15:38,325 don't just plus one me in 347 00:15:38,325 --> 00:15:40,045 and then expect me to solve it for you. 348 00:15:40,665 --> 00:15:44,565 And that little button right there in in Outlook mobile is 349 00:15:44,565 --> 00:15:46,245 awesome 'cause now I get that thing, 350 00:15:46,565 --> 00:15:48,445 I can just see like in the scroll bar how big 351 00:15:48,445 --> 00:15:50,085 of a thread it is and how much it's going 352 00:15:50,385 --> 00:15:51,645 and I can just hit that little button 353 00:15:51,705 --> 00:15:54,085 and it kind of summarizes it for me, which is great. 354 00:15:54,225 --> 00:15:57,205 So you know, the theme of it like is very much 355 00:15:58,165 --> 00:15:59,925 summarization like generative AI 356 00:16:00,105 --> 00:16:03,045 around summarizing other things that are out there, 357 00:16:03,075 --> 00:16:04,605 like written word kind of things. 358 00:16:05,345 --> 00:16:08,405 And I think that's okay 'cause it does provide value. 359 00:16:08,635 --> 00:16:09,725 - I've been doing some of that. 360 00:16:10,065 --> 00:16:12,445 The teams meeting one is really nice, I need 361 00:16:12,445 --> 00:16:13,765 to record more of my meetings. 362 00:16:14,125 --> 00:16:18,245 I wish there was a better way to just set like a global flag 363 00:16:18,265 --> 00:16:20,485 of record all my meetings unless I tell that to oh my gosh 364 00:16:20,825 --> 00:16:21,825 - So much. 365 00:16:21,825 --> 00:16:22,285 So I want that. Yes. 366 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:24,845 - Like I don't want to have to go in and edit them. 367 00:16:25,125 --> 00:16:26,965 I mean you can do like templates and stuff, 368 00:16:27,025 --> 00:16:29,845 but I just want like a default setting record all my 369 00:16:29,845 --> 00:16:31,485 meetings, prompt the users, 370 00:16:31,875 --> 00:16:34,005 like whatever we need to do for the legal things. 371 00:16:34,565 --> 00:16:36,165 I just want that to be the default setting. 372 00:16:36,545 --> 00:16:38,965 One interesting thing, I didn't realize this, so 373 00:16:39,345 --> 00:16:42,125 before co-pilot you could use Teams Premium 374 00:16:42,585 --> 00:16:44,125 for doing the same thing, right? 375 00:16:44,385 --> 00:16:47,125 If you're not using any of the other teams premium features, 376 00:16:47,225 --> 00:16:48,365 you can just do co-pilot. 377 00:16:48,365 --> 00:16:51,605 Like there's a feature overlap there between teams Premium 378 00:16:51,745 --> 00:16:55,565 and co-pilot where the meeting recap is a licensed feature 379 00:16:55,585 --> 00:16:57,845 of teams premium and of co-pilot. 380 00:16:57,945 --> 00:17:02,445 So depending on your usage of other stuff outside 381 00:17:02,445 --> 00:17:05,845 of like meeting recap in teams, you can go one of two ways 382 00:17:06,145 --> 00:17:09,045 to license the whole AI meeting recap thing. 383 00:17:09,115 --> 00:17:11,245 - Very much so. And I think that's like, it's a weird, 384 00:17:11,515 --> 00:17:12,565 - It's odd - Nuance 385 00:17:12,985 --> 00:17:14,125 and that's where I was saying it gets 386 00:17:14,125 --> 00:17:15,285 very murky all of a sudden. 387 00:17:15,765 --> 00:17:19,925 'cause it feels like a lot of those things we're like, 388 00:17:20,475 --> 00:17:23,325 it's in my brain I think, you know, I could be conflating it 389 00:17:23,345 --> 00:17:25,605 but it's all just co-pilot at the end of the day for me. 390 00:17:25,635 --> 00:17:29,205 Like it is all generative AI summarization, 391 00:17:29,395 --> 00:17:31,085 blah blah blah on top of the thing, right? 392 00:17:31,145 --> 00:17:32,285 Yep. And getting it going. 393 00:17:32,465 --> 00:17:33,645 So like I really don't care 394 00:17:33,645 --> 00:17:34,925 what we call it if we call it Teams 395 00:17:34,925 --> 00:17:36,085 premium or blah blah blah. 396 00:17:36,085 --> 00:17:39,605 But it, it's the same fundamental experience. 397 00:17:39,795 --> 00:17:40,965 - It's the same functionality 398 00:17:41,305 --> 00:17:42,445 - As like an end user. 399 00:17:42,595 --> 00:17:44,725 Yeah. To figure that stuff out. So, 400 00:17:44,905 --> 00:17:45,845 - But I've been playing with 401 00:17:45,915 --> 00:17:47,245 copilot, I've done a few things. 402 00:17:47,585 --> 00:17:49,325 So one, just to test it out, 403 00:17:49,685 --> 00:17:51,445 I actually did go into PowerPoint 404 00:17:51,785 --> 00:17:53,725 and said generate a presentation 405 00:17:53,785 --> 00:17:56,405 for me based on a session title and a session abstract. 406 00:17:56,675 --> 00:17:59,525 It's not perfect like there's definitely repetition in it 407 00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:01,925 but it like went in and created like a 12 408 00:18:01,925 --> 00:18:04,005 or 13 slide PowerPoint presentation 409 00:18:04,585 --> 00:18:07,165 and it did a decent job of pulling in different bullets 410 00:18:07,385 --> 00:18:09,645 of putting graphics in my slides. 411 00:18:10,305 --> 00:18:11,805 I'm not gonna use this for going 412 00:18:11,905 --> 00:18:13,405 and maybe creating a session, 413 00:18:13,865 --> 00:18:17,205 but there's definitely some useful features there in terms 414 00:18:17,265 --> 00:18:20,685 of quickly getting, I would say drafts, right? 415 00:18:20,765 --> 00:18:22,165 I think it's a little bit of that emphasis 416 00:18:22,165 --> 00:18:24,965 that this is still there to help you not 417 00:18:24,965 --> 00:18:26,005 to do everything for you. 418 00:18:26,345 --> 00:18:27,365 So that was interesting. 419 00:18:27,545 --> 00:18:30,245 But I have been playing more 420 00:18:30,245 --> 00:18:32,605 with just the copilot app in teams. 421 00:18:33,145 --> 00:18:37,765 To your point about that switch where chat, GPT, copilot, 422 00:18:38,225 --> 00:18:40,605 pro Bing chat, whatever you want to call it, 423 00:18:40,835 --> 00:18:45,765 doesn't have the context of your Microsoft 365 environment. 424 00:18:46,185 --> 00:18:49,165 But having copilot that you can go in 425 00:18:49,165 --> 00:18:51,085 and have conversations with in teams. 426 00:18:51,665 --> 00:18:53,645 One thing it does do is it gives you the ability 427 00:18:53,825 --> 00:18:55,285 to start new chats. 428 00:18:55,545 --> 00:18:57,365 But also one of the things you mentioned Scott, 429 00:18:57,365 --> 00:18:58,605 where you couldn't always go back 430 00:18:58,605 --> 00:18:59,725 and see previous chats, 431 00:18:59,985 --> 00:19:02,765 you can go see all your previous chats that you've had 432 00:19:02,885 --> 00:19:03,885 with copilot chat. 433 00:19:04,205 --> 00:19:06,245 I don't know how far back it goes. 434 00:19:06,745 --> 00:19:08,965 - You can, which is nice. It is. 435 00:19:09,305 --> 00:19:10,845 It seems to cut off at some point. 436 00:19:10,845 --> 00:19:14,005 Like I don't know the exact number off the top of my head 437 00:19:14,005 --> 00:19:15,845 where it cuts off, but I do remember like it 438 00:19:15,845 --> 00:19:17,045 starts to drop off the list. 439 00:19:17,155 --> 00:19:20,125 - Yeah, the oldest one I see in mine is the 16th. 440 00:19:20,225 --> 00:19:22,805 So it's at probably at least 30 days. 441 00:19:22,805 --> 00:19:25,245 January 16, sorry it's at least 30 days. 442 00:19:25,545 --> 00:19:27,365 But having that conversation history. 443 00:19:27,625 --> 00:19:31,205 But you can start doing some fascinating stuff with 444 00:19:31,845 --> 00:19:33,445 co-pilot chat in teams. 445 00:19:33,545 --> 00:19:35,165 And this is, I'll send you this prompt. 446 00:19:35,645 --> 00:19:37,965 I saw this one the other day in a training. 447 00:19:38,045 --> 00:19:40,165 I was actually on co-pilot where it's, 448 00:19:40,165 --> 00:19:42,725 look at my calendar over this coming week, create five 449 00:19:42,725 --> 00:19:45,045 to seven categories that describe how I spend my time 450 00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:47,245 and give me a short description of each category, 451 00:19:47,265 --> 00:19:50,205 an estimated percentage on time I spend on each. 452 00:19:50,465 --> 00:19:52,205 And I was talking to one person 453 00:19:52,315 --> 00:19:55,525 that actually dropped this in Teams chat and it spit back 454 00:19:55,825 --> 00:19:58,685 and they were like, I spent 50% of my meetings 455 00:19:58,685 --> 00:20:00,485 with internal people at our company. 456 00:20:00,965 --> 00:20:02,965 I should probably be focusing a little bit more on 457 00:20:02,965 --> 00:20:04,165 some customer conversations 458 00:20:04,345 --> 00:20:05,445 - To the murkiness thing. 459 00:20:05,785 --> 00:20:09,245 How is that different than the Veeva Digest 460 00:20:09,275 --> 00:20:11,285 that I get at the beginning of every week that says, 461 00:20:11,305 --> 00:20:12,525 Hey here's how you spend your time, 462 00:20:12,665 --> 00:20:13,665 - Here's how you spend it. 463 00:20:13,805 --> 00:20:16,085 I mean there are definitely some overlaps there. 464 00:20:16,565 --> 00:20:18,685 I think here it's diving into it, 465 00:20:19,045 --> 00:20:20,125 although I would say it's not perfect 466 00:20:20,525 --> 00:20:22,565 'cause I've played with some other ones like 467 00:20:23,065 --> 00:20:25,125 how many emails did I send this week? 468 00:20:25,505 --> 00:20:29,045 Or which domains did I email the most? 469 00:20:29,545 --> 00:20:31,245 How many meetings do I have this week? 470 00:20:31,805 --> 00:20:33,605 I asked at how many meetings I'm multitasked in. 471 00:20:33,605 --> 00:20:35,405 It was the same number that I had meetings this week. 472 00:20:35,925 --> 00:20:38,645 Probably not a good thing. But , the fact 473 00:20:38,645 --> 00:20:42,125 that you can go in and start sifting through your data 474 00:20:42,425 --> 00:20:44,485 and to your point, you still have to get good. 475 00:20:44,805 --> 00:20:47,725 I need to improve at some of these prompt engineering 476 00:20:47,725 --> 00:20:51,045 and coming up with various prompts for 477 00:20:51,705 --> 00:20:54,485 how do I ask copilot things in certain ways 478 00:20:54,625 --> 00:20:57,285 to get the responses and the information out I want. 479 00:20:57,685 --> 00:20:59,765 I also was playing, I'm still trying 480 00:20:59,765 --> 00:21:03,685 to get this figured out, the concept of add-ins in copilot 481 00:21:04,025 --> 00:21:08,885 and Jira already came out with an add-in for copilot. 482 00:21:09,185 --> 00:21:10,765 So in theory you could go into teams 483 00:21:10,865 --> 00:21:14,325 and ask about overdue tasks and upcoming tasks 484 00:21:14,825 --> 00:21:17,285 and spit out my tasks that are the most overdue. 485 00:21:17,365 --> 00:21:18,725 I haven't gotten that working yet. 486 00:21:18,725 --> 00:21:20,845 There's some hoops to jump through 487 00:21:20,875 --> 00:21:22,965 with add-ins from what I've found. 488 00:21:23,425 --> 00:21:26,245 And I am apparently still missing something. 489 00:21:26,545 --> 00:21:29,845 But it'll also be really interesting to see 490 00:21:30,505 --> 00:21:32,725 if companies start building in add-ins. 491 00:21:33,005 --> 00:21:35,205 Companies like Jira where maybe you're tracking your tasks 492 00:21:35,585 --> 00:21:39,205 or I don't think that DevOps is necessarily integrated 493 00:21:39,265 --> 00:21:43,365 by default or any of those other third party applications 494 00:21:43,395 --> 00:21:46,725 that maybe already have add-ins for Microsoft 365 495 00:21:46,955 --> 00:21:49,245 that copilot will then be able to 496 00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:52,045 pull data from when it responds 497 00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:53,765 to those different conversations. 498 00:21:54,425 --> 00:21:56,445 So from my perspective, that's what I've been using. 499 00:21:56,515 --> 00:21:58,325 I've been playing with, I don't know 500 00:21:58,325 --> 00:22:02,085 that I've necessarily figured out all the business use cases 501 00:22:02,345 --> 00:22:03,805 for it and ones that I like, 502 00:22:04,145 --> 00:22:08,285 but that conversation in the co-pilot in teams, 503 00:22:08,715 --> 00:22:11,565 because it has access to all my data is kind of nice. 504 00:22:11,595 --> 00:22:14,085 Even I would say the other thing like presentations 505 00:22:14,085 --> 00:22:15,645 that I've given the ability it has 506 00:22:15,645 --> 00:22:17,085 to go look at all my files and I'm like, 507 00:22:17,115 --> 00:22:18,245 okay, where do I have this? 508 00:22:18,875 --> 00:22:20,725 It's search ish. 509 00:22:20,915 --> 00:22:24,005 Like some people could say, well you already had 510 00:22:24,005 --> 00:22:25,125 that in SharePoint search. 511 00:22:25,465 --> 00:22:28,725 And to a certain extent I think it's just the experience 512 00:22:28,745 --> 00:22:29,885 is a little bit different. 513 00:22:30,065 --> 00:22:32,405 - It very much is. So, uh, I'll give you a 514 00:22:33,085 --> 00:22:34,405 concrete example there of where 515 00:22:34,405 --> 00:22:35,685 that's been super helpful for me. 516 00:22:36,465 --> 00:22:38,245 So the other day 517 00:22:39,245 --> 00:22:41,165 I was working on some 518 00:22:41,165 --> 00:22:43,005 requirements documentation for an area. 519 00:22:43,075 --> 00:22:47,165 Okay. I needed some data about another part of our platform 520 00:22:47,185 --> 00:22:49,605 to like pull in for context on like, hey, 521 00:22:49,665 --> 00:22:51,405 why we'd wanna change this part of the service 522 00:22:51,405 --> 00:22:53,365 because this is where another part of the service is going. 523 00:22:53,465 --> 00:22:57,045 Yep. I had that conversation with somebody else about like, 524 00:22:57,265 --> 00:22:58,485 hey the, this other part 525 00:22:58,485 --> 00:23:00,205 of the service is going in a different direction 526 00:23:00,555 --> 00:23:01,765 like over a year ago. 527 00:23:01,945 --> 00:23:03,845 But I remember having the conversation 528 00:23:03,905 --> 00:23:06,085 and I remember who it was, who it was with. 529 00:23:06,665 --> 00:23:07,885 So I was able to go 530 00:23:08,065 --> 00:23:09,325 and ask copilot, 531 00:23:09,755 --> 00:23:13,445 what can you tell me about Project X, Y, Z? 532 00:23:14,115 --> 00:23:19,005 From a meeting with let's say Ben about a year ago 533 00:23:19,625 --> 00:23:21,805 and he presented a PowerPoint to me, 534 00:23:22,345 --> 00:23:24,645 it pulled back the stupid PowerPoint like 535 00:23:24,645 --> 00:23:25,685 it gave me a link to it. 536 00:23:25,685 --> 00:23:26,805 It said, Hey is this the right 537 00:23:26,805 --> 00:23:28,005 PowerPoint that you were looking for? 538 00:23:28,045 --> 00:23:29,365 I was like, oh my gosh, yes. 539 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:31,245 And could I have gotten that another way? 540 00:23:31,515 --> 00:23:33,965 Well yeah, I could have gone into this maybe like my 541 00:23:34,205 --> 00:23:35,245 calendar and outlook 542 00:23:35,345 --> 00:23:37,925 and I could have searched for the meeting and 543 00:23:38,225 --> 00:23:40,325 but then I would've had to have like the right subject 544 00:23:40,705 --> 00:23:44,805 or you know, the, the right incantation of things to, to get 545 00:23:44,805 --> 00:23:45,965 to where, where it needs to be. 546 00:23:46,185 --> 00:23:48,365 So it was super helpful for that. 547 00:23:49,195 --> 00:23:52,965 It's been helpful in I think writing as well. 548 00:23:53,145 --> 00:23:56,685 So I tend to do a lot of things where, you know, 549 00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,045 you write kind of like a big document. 550 00:23:59,715 --> 00:24:01,365 Like I could take like show notes 551 00:24:01,905 --> 00:24:03,245 for this as an example, right? 552 00:24:03,245 --> 00:24:05,045 We kind of write a document, we put a bunch 553 00:24:05,045 --> 00:24:06,525 of bullet points in it, things like that. 554 00:24:06,865 --> 00:24:09,685 And then there's just links sprinkled throughout it. 555 00:24:10,265 --> 00:24:12,285 So lately I've been telling, like in some 556 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:13,445 of the documents I read, I'm like, 557 00:24:13,705 --> 00:24:15,805 Hey can you like in the appendix, 558 00:24:15,805 --> 00:24:16,965 like I'll be in the appendix section. 559 00:24:16,965 --> 00:24:19,165 I'll say like Co-pilot, build me a table here 560 00:24:19,755 --> 00:24:23,045 that lists all the links in this document 561 00:24:23,705 --> 00:24:28,125 and make one of the columns the title of the uh page 562 00:24:28,125 --> 00:24:30,685 that it links to and it just automatically goes out 563 00:24:30,685 --> 00:24:32,725 and scrapes that stuff and pulls it down 564 00:24:32,905 --> 00:24:34,125 and just like boom, boom, boom. 565 00:24:34,125 --> 00:24:37,885 Like it builds you a table super slick when it works. 566 00:24:38,405 --> 00:24:39,405 . Yeah. 567 00:24:42,545 --> 00:24:44,165 - Do you feel overwhelmed by trying 568 00:24:44,165 --> 00:24:46,445 to manage your Office 365 environment? 569 00:24:46,585 --> 00:24:48,325 Are you facing unexpected issues 570 00:24:48,355 --> 00:24:50,205 that disrupt your company's productivity? 571 00:24:50,235 --> 00:24:53,005 Intelligent is here to help much like you take your car 572 00:24:53,005 --> 00:24:55,445 to the mechanic that has specialized knowledge on how 573 00:24:55,445 --> 00:24:58,405 to best keep your car running Intelligent helps you 574 00:24:58,405 --> 00:25:00,205 with your Microsoft Cloud environment 575 00:25:00,205 --> 00:25:01,805 because that's their expertise. 576 00:25:01,955 --> 00:25:03,245 Intelligent keeps up 577 00:25:03,245 --> 00:25:05,325 with the latest updates on the Microsoft Cloud 578 00:25:05,325 --> 00:25:06,765 to help keep your business running 579 00:25:07,125 --> 00:25:08,285 smoothly and ahead of the curve. 580 00:25:08,355 --> 00:25:10,245 Whether you are a small organization 581 00:25:10,245 --> 00:25:12,685 with just a few users up to an organization 582 00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:15,725 of several thousand employees, they want to partner with you 583 00:25:15,725 --> 00:25:19,445 to implement an administer your Microsoft Cloud technology, 584 00:25:20,015 --> 00:25:23,405 visit them at intelligent.com/podcast. 585 00:25:23,905 --> 00:25:28,325 That's I-N-T-E-L-L-I-G-I-N 586 00:25:28,405 --> 00:25:31,965 k.com/podcast for more information 587 00:25:31,965 --> 00:25:33,445 or to schedule a 30 minute call 588 00:25:33,445 --> 00:25:34,685 to get started with them today. 589 00:25:35,685 --> 00:25:38,485 Remember intelligent focuses on the Microsoft cloud 590 00:25:38,625 --> 00:25:40,445 so you can focus on your business 591 00:25:42,815 --> 00:25:44,205 Going back to the assistant. 592 00:25:44,285 --> 00:25:47,085 I think that's where copilot, even from my experience tends 593 00:25:47,085 --> 00:25:49,725 to excel is not not creating stuff. 594 00:25:49,945 --> 00:25:51,725 It doesn't always do a great 595 00:25:51,725 --> 00:25:53,165 job creating stuff from scratch. 596 00:25:53,785 --> 00:25:57,165 But if you can feed it that specific information 597 00:25:57,165 --> 00:26:00,845 or tell it, give it good specifics about what you're looking 598 00:26:00,865 --> 00:26:02,405 for from a PowerPoint presentation, 599 00:26:02,435 --> 00:26:04,845 help me go find this conversation or this presentation 600 00:26:04,945 --> 00:26:07,885 or take this document and pull all the links out of it. 601 00:26:08,205 --> 00:26:10,445 I feel like it does a better job. 602 00:26:10,515 --> 00:26:13,605 Some of that with some of that I've also used, 603 00:26:13,995 --> 00:26:16,805 have you played or tried the, the email coach 604 00:26:16,945 --> 00:26:17,965 yet in Outlook? 605 00:26:18,155 --> 00:26:20,165 This one's also been interesting to me. 606 00:26:20,725 --> 00:26:23,365 - , I have not been brave enough to . 607 00:26:23,365 --> 00:26:25,325 I was talking to a couple folks about this the other day 608 00:26:25,445 --> 00:26:26,845 'cause we, we were going back and forth, right? 609 00:26:26,925 --> 00:26:30,085 I, I kind of, you know, somebody asked in our discord like 610 00:26:30,115 --> 00:26:33,205 what are the use cases for this beyond summarization? 611 00:26:33,345 --> 00:26:34,925 So, you know, I kind of gave that list 612 00:26:34,925 --> 00:26:36,005 of things I talked about earlier. 613 00:26:36,685 --> 00:26:39,885 I also took that list of things back internally to uh, 614 00:26:39,885 --> 00:26:42,125 you know, other members of of the team that I'm on. 615 00:26:42,185 --> 00:26:43,885 I'm like, Hey, how are other folks using this? 616 00:26:43,885 --> 00:26:45,925 Like what am I missing? And I was going back 617 00:26:45,925 --> 00:26:48,045 and forth with somebody and he casually dropped. 618 00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:50,165 He is like, oh I've got this thing writing my 619 00:26:50,165 --> 00:26:51,205 emails for me right now. 620 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:53,445 I'm like, you're truly a brave soul. 621 00:26:53,595 --> 00:26:54,845 Like I, I don't know that 622 00:26:54,845 --> 00:26:56,445 that might be a bridge too far for me. 623 00:26:56,445 --> 00:26:57,685 It's one thing to have Outlook collect, 624 00:26:57,685 --> 00:26:59,645 correct my grammar, which is horrible. 625 00:27:00,125 --> 00:27:02,165 I understand. I appreciate, you know, the, 626 00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:04,365 the red squiggly lines all over the place. 627 00:27:04,435 --> 00:27:06,885 Like hey you missed a the here or an 628 00:27:06,905 --> 00:27:10,365 and there you forgot to you, you spelled this thing wrong. 629 00:27:10,825 --> 00:27:14,245 But having it just wholesale write it, I don't know 630 00:27:14,245 --> 00:27:15,325 that I get there, especially when 631 00:27:15,325 --> 00:27:16,405 I see everybody in meetings. 632 00:27:16,405 --> 00:27:19,405 Like I see a lot more people like participating in meetings 633 00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:23,045 now and and like acting as like a quasi scribe 634 00:27:23,145 --> 00:27:25,165 and like they're throwing things out during the meeting 635 00:27:25,585 --> 00:27:28,445 and all they're doing is getting the recaps 636 00:27:28,445 --> 00:27:30,445 and things from copilot as it's going on. 637 00:27:30,445 --> 00:27:31,885 So you can like clearly tell 638 00:27:32,345 --> 00:27:33,445 and you just know what they're doing. 639 00:27:33,625 --> 00:27:36,405 So like, and now one of our jokes is like did you write that 640 00:27:36,545 --> 00:27:39,005 or did you have copilot write it did you? 641 00:27:39,105 --> 00:27:41,325 And you know right off the bat, like if you've been working 642 00:27:41,325 --> 00:27:42,765 with somebody for a couple years, like 643 00:27:42,865 --> 00:27:44,005 that's not your writing style. 644 00:27:44,005 --> 00:27:45,445 You had the robot write it for you 645 00:27:45,725 --> 00:27:46,725 - . 646 00:27:46,725 --> 00:27:48,365 I have not had co-pilot write my emails yet. 647 00:27:48,665 --> 00:27:51,765 But there's another option when you're drafting an email 648 00:27:52,095 --> 00:27:55,725 where it is coaching by co-pilot. 649 00:27:55,865 --> 00:27:56,885 So if you go write 650 00:27:57,185 --> 00:27:59,565 and this is what I've done, I go write my email 651 00:27:59,745 --> 00:28:02,445 and then if you go click on this coaching by co-pilot, 652 00:28:02,825 --> 00:28:05,805 it will go in and it analyzes your email 653 00:28:06,065 --> 00:28:10,805 and it will give you pointers about tone, clarity, 654 00:28:11,655 --> 00:28:13,365 those types of things where it doesn't 655 00:28:13,365 --> 00:28:15,805 even rewrite your email. But I just threw, 656 00:28:16,015 --> 00:28:17,525 - Isn't that just Microsoft editor? 657 00:28:17,635 --> 00:28:19,805 Like how is that different than what editor was doing? 658 00:28:20,085 --> 00:28:21,485 - it's different than editor. 659 00:28:21,725 --> 00:28:24,245 I feel like editor does more rearranging editor 660 00:28:24,465 --> 00:28:27,285 to me was a little bit more grammar focused. 661 00:28:27,385 --> 00:28:31,485 Or you could rearrange it this way to make it better. 662 00:28:31,865 --> 00:28:35,005 The coaching, it gives me something like the 663 00:28:35,005 --> 00:28:36,045 tone could be more friendly. 664 00:28:36,145 --> 00:28:37,685 The email sounds a bit dry 665 00:28:37,705 --> 00:28:39,725 and formal, which may not create a strong 666 00:28:39,725 --> 00:28:40,845 rapport with the reader. 667 00:28:41,355 --> 00:28:43,725 Suggestions. Consider adding some greetings 668 00:28:43,725 --> 00:28:46,205 and expressions of gratitude or appreciation. 669 00:28:46,645 --> 00:28:47,725 I mean kinda cheesy 670 00:28:48,265 --> 00:28:50,405 but it has Hal where I'm like, okay, 671 00:28:50,465 --> 00:28:53,605 so I could rephrase this and reader sentiment. 672 00:28:53,855 --> 00:28:57,645 It'll tell you things like this email assumes certain things 673 00:28:57,655 --> 00:28:59,365 which may not be the case for everybody. 674 00:28:59,585 --> 00:29:01,205 So how is this going 675 00:29:01,225 --> 00:29:04,765 to maybe come across from the reader based on things 676 00:29:04,765 --> 00:29:08,765 that maybe you've asked for or questions you've asked. 677 00:29:09,225 --> 00:29:12,445 And then clarity. If it's like super vague, you need 678 00:29:12,445 --> 00:29:14,685 to get more detailed, more specific about something. 679 00:29:15,215 --> 00:29:18,205 Point about the question. Discord business use case, 680 00:29:19,295 --> 00:29:21,925 maybe I'm still trying to dig through it. 681 00:29:22,105 --> 00:29:25,565 So far I have been unable to write any email 682 00:29:25,565 --> 00:29:27,045 that is friendly enough for copilot. 683 00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:30,605 So either I am an incredibly unfriendly person 684 00:29:31,145 --> 00:29:33,965 or a copilot is like over the top friendly. 685 00:29:34,565 --> 00:29:36,325 I, I don't really know yet. You 686 00:29:36,325 --> 00:29:38,845 - Gotta work on your your your Southern nice. Huh? 687 00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:41,885 - Apparently - It's your inner Northerner coming out. 688 00:29:42,065 --> 00:29:43,445 - It could be that. It could be the fact 689 00:29:43,445 --> 00:29:45,765 that I'm like I don't have time to be nice in an email. 690 00:29:45,925 --> 00:29:48,005 I just need to get this out and get it over to somebody 691 00:29:48,025 --> 00:29:49,285 so I can get this taken care of. 692 00:29:49,485 --> 00:29:51,205 - I gotta admit I haven't tried this one yet. 693 00:29:51,475 --> 00:29:52,605 I'll have to go check it out. 694 00:29:52,865 --> 00:29:54,845 Is this only in the new I, 695 00:29:54,845 --> 00:29:56,605 it looks like it's only in the new Monarch article. 696 00:29:56,715 --> 00:29:59,165 Monarch client from the screenshots. 697 00:29:59,385 --> 00:30:00,925 - I'm on a Mac so probably 698 00:30:01,045 --> 00:30:03,725 'cause I'm on the New Mac client, which I think is more 699 00:30:04,265 --> 00:30:06,525 on par with the new outlet client. 700 00:30:06,755 --> 00:30:08,285 Yeah, that one's an interesting one. 701 00:30:08,425 --> 00:30:10,765 I'm still waiting for copilot in OneNote. 702 00:30:11,065 --> 00:30:13,285 I'm curious to see what I can do with it there 703 00:30:13,515 --> 00:30:15,245 because I have so many notes in it. 704 00:30:15,605 --> 00:30:17,365 I have not had it. 705 00:30:17,555 --> 00:30:20,085 I've seen screenshots of other people using an Outlook. 706 00:30:20,285 --> 00:30:22,005 I would think it's maybe Outlook for Windows. 707 00:30:22,805 --> 00:30:24,165 I haven't seen it in Outlook on the web 708 00:30:24,185 --> 00:30:25,285 or Outlook for the Mac. 709 00:30:25,385 --> 00:30:27,405 Or maybe I have something broken in my tenant, 710 00:30:27,415 --> 00:30:30,365 which is also a very real possibility at times. Could 711 00:30:30,365 --> 00:30:31,365 - Be. 712 00:30:31,365 --> 00:30:33,605 I have not played around with it in OneNote yet. 713 00:30:33,885 --> 00:30:37,245 I don't know. Loop yes. OneNote? 714 00:30:37,345 --> 00:30:39,205 No, but I think I've been neglecting 715 00:30:39,205 --> 00:30:40,365 OneNote a little bit lately. 716 00:30:40,785 --> 00:30:42,765 - Oh for what? Scott? For Loop. 717 00:30:42,985 --> 00:30:44,925 Oh I thought you were gonna say notion. Okay. 718 00:30:44,925 --> 00:30:45,925 You're allowed to do it for 719 00:30:45,925 --> 00:30:46,925 - Loop. 720 00:30:46,925 --> 00:30:48,925 No, I'm still using Notion for personal stuff but Ooh, 721 00:30:49,405 --> 00:30:51,205 - I could get on a soapbox about Loop right now. 722 00:30:51,505 --> 00:30:53,405 I'm not gonna do it. . Yeah, I'm trying to think. 723 00:30:53,405 --> 00:30:56,045 Other business use cases for copilot that I've seen. 724 00:30:56,145 --> 00:30:58,925 The meeting recaps, I mean summarization. 725 00:30:59,235 --> 00:31:02,165 Yeah it's a, it's still falls in that category 726 00:31:02,225 --> 00:31:03,365 but it's been really good. 727 00:31:03,515 --> 00:31:05,485 I've liked meeting summarizations with it. 728 00:31:05,685 --> 00:31:06,725 I don't know that there's any others 729 00:31:07,025 --> 00:31:08,025 - As folks. 730 00:31:08,025 --> 00:31:08,965 Like if you're starting to light this up, 731 00:31:09,345 --> 00:31:12,925 you mentioned add-ins or, or plugins for copilot. 732 00:31:12,925 --> 00:31:16,165 Yeah, you do have to go into the copilot app 733 00:31:16,345 --> 00:31:19,725 and then in the text box there's like a little shadow icon 734 00:31:19,725 --> 00:31:20,805 that you click down there where you 735 00:31:20,805 --> 00:31:21,965 have to turn that stuff on. 736 00:31:22,435 --> 00:31:24,285 It's a little hidden away. 737 00:31:24,435 --> 00:31:26,685 Like I had to go in and like I, I was confused. 738 00:31:26,785 --> 00:31:28,325 I'm like hey why can't you crawl the web for me? 739 00:31:28,325 --> 00:31:30,565 And it's like, oh you have to go turn that on 740 00:31:30,945 --> 00:31:33,005 for yourself to get it going. 741 00:31:33,185 --> 00:31:35,125 And that was kind of weird and, 742 00:31:35,185 --> 00:31:37,325 and not well documented to me. Yeah 743 00:31:37,345 --> 00:31:39,605 - And it doesn't stay on, I have not found a way 744 00:31:39,605 --> 00:31:41,565 to turn it on and say always crawl the web. 745 00:31:41,995 --> 00:31:43,805 Like you can turn it on for a chat 746 00:31:43,825 --> 00:31:46,205 but then if you go start a new chat it's off by default. 747 00:31:46,445 --> 00:31:47,525 I haven't found a, oh no 748 00:31:47,745 --> 00:31:49,445 - On, I didn't notice that , 749 00:31:49,725 --> 00:31:51,805 I was just assumed it was on after that 750 00:31:52,125 --> 00:31:54,485 - I would go look unless it's again my tenant. 751 00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:55,965 So I did notice that. 752 00:31:56,345 --> 00:31:57,725 The other thing I have seen 753 00:31:58,345 --> 00:32:02,845 the documentation on this is not very clear is add-ins are 754 00:32:02,845 --> 00:32:04,245 technically still in preview 755 00:32:04,785 --> 00:32:08,205 and I was talking with somebody the other day about add-ins 756 00:32:08,265 --> 00:32:11,285 and we aren't able to tell from the documentation. 757 00:32:11,455 --> 00:32:12,925 There is a section 758 00:32:12,925 --> 00:32:15,925 where it says if you wanna use add-ins in teams, 759 00:32:16,115 --> 00:32:18,965 like third party add-ins you in preview, you need 760 00:32:18,965 --> 00:32:20,245 to go open a support request 761 00:32:20,465 --> 00:32:24,005 and put this very specific phrase and I, I can go look it up 762 00:32:24,005 --> 00:32:26,285 and we can put it in the meeting notes in the service 763 00:32:26,475 --> 00:32:28,645 request so that it gets routed 764 00:32:28,645 --> 00:32:31,725 to the right person on the co-pilot service support side 765 00:32:31,785 --> 00:32:33,685 and they can enable add-ins for your tenant. 766 00:32:34,025 --> 00:32:36,325 And I did that and I went through the whole process 767 00:32:36,545 --> 00:32:37,765 and they send you a request there, 768 00:32:37,835 --> 00:32:40,205 what tenant id do you want it enabled on all of that. 769 00:32:40,755 --> 00:32:43,005 What I don't know is do you need this to just use them 770 00:32:43,005 --> 00:32:44,405 or is this only for developing them? 771 00:32:44,565 --> 00:32:46,125 I was talking to a developer about this 772 00:32:46,155 --> 00:32:48,645 that was looking at writing add-ins for teams. 773 00:32:49,325 --> 00:32:52,485 I don't know if that step is for only if you're developing 774 00:32:52,485 --> 00:32:53,605 and you need something turned on 775 00:32:53,605 --> 00:32:54,925 or if it's just for general use. 776 00:32:55,305 --> 00:32:58,685 Either way I have not gotten my Jira add in 777 00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:01,805 or plugin to show up in that dialogue box yet. 778 00:33:01,805 --> 00:33:04,965 Even though it says it's installed, I keep pouring 779 00:33:04,965 --> 00:33:06,805 through the documentation and it's 780 00:33:07,385 --> 00:33:08,965 go turn it on in the admin center 781 00:33:09,065 --> 00:33:10,405 but then you have to go over to teams 782 00:33:10,625 --> 00:33:12,325 but it doesn't really tell you what to do 783 00:33:12,345 --> 00:33:13,565 or where to do it in teams. 784 00:33:13,585 --> 00:33:16,845 And I haven't, I have not come up with good guidance 785 00:33:17,025 --> 00:33:21,045 nor have I been able to discover the exact steps to get 786 00:33:21,045 --> 00:33:22,965 that plugin to show up in lieu of the fact 787 00:33:22,965 --> 00:33:25,005 that I don't see it yet in teams. 788 00:33:25,295 --> 00:33:27,805 - Again it doesn't seem to be well documented in some areas 789 00:33:27,945 --> 00:33:29,125 to go figure that stuff out. 790 00:33:29,305 --> 00:33:31,205 - But it is in preview, - Like you almost say you have 791 00:33:31,205 --> 00:33:34,365 to have like, like that person you can get the incantation 792 00:33:34,515 --> 00:33:36,885 from like, and I'm sure there's more 793 00:33:36,885 --> 00:33:38,085 than one edge case for that. 794 00:33:38,085 --> 00:33:39,925 Like hey if you have this magic term, 795 00:33:40,055 --> 00:33:42,605 it'll effectively like ungate the next step for you. 796 00:33:42,785 --> 00:33:44,965 You almost want like your your dungeon master book. 797 00:33:44,985 --> 00:33:47,965 You know like, hey how do I , uh, I'm a DM 798 00:33:47,965 --> 00:33:49,765 and I'm, I'm trying to navigate a a crew 799 00:33:49,765 --> 00:33:51,325 through here. How do I get that going? 800 00:33:51,585 --> 00:33:54,685 - Yep. But again I will say it's in preview so 801 00:33:55,265 --> 00:33:58,165 I'm not necessarily expecting it to be super smooth 802 00:33:58,165 --> 00:34:01,885 and straightforward given the newness of copilot 803 00:34:02,225 --> 00:34:04,365 and that add-ins are still in preview. 804 00:34:04,865 --> 00:34:06,405 One other thing, I'm gonna mention this 805 00:34:06,525 --> 00:34:07,605 'cause I've seen questions about this. 806 00:34:07,985 --> 00:34:10,085 Did we talk about pricing of copilot 807 00:34:10,085 --> 00:34:12,525 and how you have to buy these licenses? Do you remember? 808 00:34:12,745 --> 00:34:16,565 - So we mentioned the pricing in the past like $30 per user 809 00:34:16,705 --> 00:34:20,605 per month and you briefly mentioned the initial restriction 810 00:34:20,605 --> 00:34:23,165 with CSPs but it'd be good to touch on it. Again this 811 00:34:23,165 --> 00:34:25,445 - Is for CSPs and for 812 00:34:26,125 --> 00:34:27,405 'cause I pulled it up in the admin portal 813 00:34:27,625 --> 00:34:30,645 and for the admin portal, this is still one of those Yes, 814 00:34:30,645 --> 00:34:32,245 $30 per user per month. 815 00:34:32,585 --> 00:34:35,405 But no matter how you buy it, whether you prepay 816 00:34:35,585 --> 00:34:39,245 or prepay seek hint, you're gonna prepay whether you do it 817 00:34:39,245 --> 00:34:42,485 through the CSP or through the admin center, it is prepaying 818 00:34:42,665 --> 00:34:44,685 for a subscription length of one year or three years. 819 00:34:44,875 --> 00:34:46,925 There's no month to month on this. 820 00:34:47,385 --> 00:34:50,685 So if you wanna turn it on, be prepared 821 00:34:50,745 --> 00:34:55,485 to pay $30 a month, which equates to $360 per year. 822 00:34:55,705 --> 00:34:57,485 So yes, $30 per month 823 00:34:57,485 --> 00:34:59,485 but your licensing is year to year for this one. 824 00:34:59,655 --> 00:35:02,885 Don't complain to me, I had no input insight 825 00:35:02,905 --> 00:35:05,605 nor can I change it and nor can your CSP change it. 826 00:35:05,865 --> 00:35:08,645 It is what it is. And we talked about this 827 00:35:08,645 --> 00:35:12,005 before, I'm sure it's due in part to certain 828 00:35:12,565 --> 00:35:14,765 capacity stuff needing people to, 829 00:35:15,585 --> 00:35:19,045 or Microsoft needs to have a lot of hardware to handle all 830 00:35:19,045 --> 00:35:23,645 of this and I'm assuming this prepay helps with some of that 831 00:35:23,675 --> 00:35:26,845 because I can imagine it would be really expensive 832 00:35:26,905 --> 00:35:29,885 for people paying for it for a month and then turning it off 833 00:35:30,105 --> 00:35:32,285 or paying for it for month, turning it off for a month, 834 00:35:32,285 --> 00:35:33,845 turning it back on for a month, whatever. 835 00:35:34,325 --> 00:35:36,285 I don't know. The fact that you do have to prepay though 836 00:35:36,285 --> 00:35:38,685 and not pay month to month is still a little intriguing. 837 00:35:38,965 --> 00:35:40,805 - I imagine licensing will continue 838 00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:42,525 to be a moving target for a little while. 839 00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:45,885 Yeah, it it seems like it's been like rapidly changing 840 00:35:46,585 --> 00:35:47,925 in some of the requirements. 841 00:35:48,025 --> 00:35:51,085 The restrictions. I don't know if you ever get to a, 842 00:35:51,685 --> 00:35:54,285 a pure like month to month PayGo model 843 00:35:54,705 --> 00:35:55,805 but you are kind of there 844 00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:58,725 with things like copilot Pro I believe like wasn't the 845 00:35:59,125 --> 00:36:00,245 personal one month to month. 846 00:36:00,505 --> 00:36:01,805 - Yes, that one's month to month 847 00:36:01,945 --> 00:36:03,925 and yeah, the only one I've seen it 848 00:36:03,925 --> 00:36:05,525 for even teams premium is month 849 00:36:05,525 --> 00:36:07,085 to month copilot for Microsoft. 850 00:36:07,085 --> 00:36:08,765 365 is year to year. 851 00:36:09,265 --> 00:36:11,885 But I'm curious if it'll start changing overall 852 00:36:11,955 --> 00:36:15,445 because now that everything is annual commits anyways, 853 00:36:15,545 --> 00:36:16,645 you still pay month to month 854 00:36:16,645 --> 00:36:19,365 but you have an annual commit, it can just be a lot of money 855 00:36:19,425 --> 00:36:20,525 to pay, especially 856 00:36:20,525 --> 00:36:22,445 for larger companies if you get into the boat 857 00:36:22,445 --> 00:36:25,165 where you're starting to have to prepay for an entire year. 858 00:36:25,465 --> 00:36:28,205 Messes with budgets, the whole CapEx opex thing, 859 00:36:29,155 --> 00:36:30,085 - Just a little bit. Right. 860 00:36:30,365 --> 00:36:31,965 - I think that covers copilot pretty well. 861 00:36:32,345 --> 00:36:33,645 Our experiences. I'm 862 00:36:33,645 --> 00:36:37,205 - Gonna continue to keep using it and playing with it 863 00:36:37,425 --> 00:36:40,125 and we should maybe come back in another couple months 864 00:36:40,125 --> 00:36:43,645 and revisit and see if there's any, any other tips 865 00:36:43,745 --> 00:36:45,925 and tricks or things there that kind 866 00:36:45,925 --> 00:36:49,325 of make the world potentially a better place. 867 00:36:49,725 --> 00:36:52,485 - I agree. 'cause it is gonna be, there's gonna be a lot 868 00:36:52,485 --> 00:36:54,245 of stuff and see if I can get my plugins working 869 00:36:54,305 --> 00:36:55,805 and I can have updates on plugins, 870 00:36:56,285 --> 00:36:57,285 - . 871 00:36:57,555 --> 00:36:59,565 Yeah, maybe I can go try some of those too. 872 00:36:59,725 --> 00:37:00,965 I don't know what's lit up in our tenant 873 00:37:01,065 --> 00:37:02,445 or what restrictions exist. 874 00:37:02,635 --> 00:37:04,045 - Yeah, so from what I've seen, 875 00:37:04,045 --> 00:37:07,645 the plugins are like a Microsoft 365 admin center thing 876 00:37:07,735 --> 00:37:10,005 where you have to turn 'em on everywhere. 877 00:37:10,465 --> 00:37:12,445 I'm curious Yeah. To see if you have any 878 00:37:12,505 --> 00:37:14,325 or if you can figure anything out. 879 00:37:14,585 --> 00:37:17,965 But with that I have Pinewood Derby cars to make 880 00:37:18,485 --> 00:37:21,685 a food truck outside my window the weekend ahead of me 881 00:37:21,985 --> 00:37:23,725 and an email migration . 882 00:37:25,865 --> 00:37:27,885 - So not, not a whole lot going on. Got it. 883 00:37:28,345 --> 00:37:30,245 - No, not really. It's just, yeah. 884 00:37:30,465 --> 00:37:31,925 And my wife's gone tonight 885 00:37:31,925 --> 00:37:34,085 and tomorrow will I do the Pinewood Derby car 886 00:37:34,225 --> 00:37:35,365 and the email migration. 887 00:37:35,655 --> 00:37:36,685 It'll be a busy weekend. 888 00:37:36,685 --> 00:37:38,325 Scott, you wanna come hang out ? 889 00:37:39,195 --> 00:37:40,205 - Sure, I'm, I'm, 890 00:37:40,435 --> 00:37:42,165 it's been a while since I've done a Pinewood car. 891 00:37:42,185 --> 00:37:44,765 My, my kids grew out of that stuff a couple years ago. 892 00:37:44,985 --> 00:37:46,525 - My daughter wanted me to make one 893 00:37:46,725 --> 00:37:48,965 that looked like my Lego Lamborghini do it. 894 00:37:49,155 --> 00:37:52,605 Well the race is tomorrow so it's, I'll have 895 00:37:52,605 --> 00:37:54,165 to take a picture , I'll try to take a picture 896 00:37:54,225 --> 00:37:56,125 and post it and Discord or put it out on Twitter. 897 00:37:56,265 --> 00:37:57,965 It, I mean it's a Pinewood Derby car 898 00:37:57,965 --> 00:38:00,245 and we had like two weeks so it looks pretty. 899 00:38:00,485 --> 00:38:03,685 I was impressed for the time we had to put into it 900 00:38:03,745 --> 00:38:05,445 and the fact that we're dealing with wood 901 00:38:05,985 --> 00:38:09,525 and I don't have, I don't have a ton of fancy tools. 902 00:38:10,085 --> 00:38:12,005 I thought it turned out fairly well. Well that's good. 903 00:38:12,225 --> 00:38:13,365 She was happy with it. The 904 00:38:13,365 --> 00:38:16,765 - Big frustration with Pinewood Derby cars is if you don't 905 00:38:16,765 --> 00:38:18,925 have a friend who doesn't have a band saw, 906 00:38:19,245 --> 00:38:21,485 I found having a band saw is 907 00:38:21,665 --> 00:38:23,365 100% a requirement for those things. 908 00:38:23,585 --> 00:38:26,445 So I have like everything else, you know like table saws, 909 00:38:26,595 --> 00:38:27,805 jigsaws, MITRE saws. 910 00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:30,205 But I don't have a band saw. That was always tough. 911 00:38:30,625 --> 00:38:34,125 So get a friend with a band saw and you'll be all set. 912 00:38:34,305 --> 00:38:37,125 - I'm looking for one. I used a jigsaw to cut these out. 913 00:38:37,475 --> 00:38:41,365 Jigsaws. It's rough. It is jigsaws lead to a lot of sanding. 914 00:38:41,515 --> 00:38:42,525 Yeah. I need a friend. 915 00:38:42,665 --> 00:38:44,405 If there's a friend in Jacksonville, Florida 916 00:38:44,515 --> 00:38:46,565 that has a band saw that listens to the podcast 917 00:38:46,985 --> 00:38:48,605 - That's gonna hear this before gets that's gonna, 918 00:38:48,605 --> 00:38:49,605 - It's listen to me. 919 00:38:49,605 --> 00:38:52,285 Well, but I'll have more Pinewood Derby cars coming up in 920 00:38:52,285 --> 00:38:55,325 the future that I can befriend 921 00:38:55,385 --> 00:38:58,125 and I don't know, I can pay you for your bandsaw. 922 00:38:58,125 --> 00:39:00,045 I can bring you food for your bandsaw or something. 923 00:39:00,365 --> 00:39:01,845 I would like a bandsaw in the next year 924 00:39:02,125 --> 00:39:03,365 sometime again. Alright. 925 00:39:03,755 --> 00:39:05,685 - Okay. - Now that we've completely gone off 926 00:39:05,685 --> 00:39:06,885 topic, we'll wrap it up. 927 00:39:07,125 --> 00:39:08,285 - . Sounds good. Alright. Keep 928 00:39:08,285 --> 00:39:09,365 an eye out for bandsaws. 929 00:39:09,845 --> 00:39:12,045 I would love to have feedback from others out there 930 00:39:12,045 --> 00:39:13,885 that are using copilot. 931 00:39:14,035 --> 00:39:16,445 Like come and find us on 932 00:39:17,005 --> 00:39:19,405 Mastodon Threads, all that kind of stuff. 933 00:39:19,905 --> 00:39:21,325 Or if you participate in the Discord, 934 00:39:21,395 --> 00:39:24,285 come hop into the chat over there. 935 00:39:24,475 --> 00:39:26,845 Like it feels like a very net new area to me. 936 00:39:26,915 --> 00:39:29,925 Like I said, I keep feeling like, oh my gosh, like I need 937 00:39:29,925 --> 00:39:31,845 to become like a prompt engineer. 938 00:39:32,505 --> 00:39:34,285 So I'm kind of like trying to soak all 939 00:39:34,285 --> 00:39:35,325 that stuff up right now. 940 00:39:35,685 --> 00:39:38,525 - I would love like other experiences but other prompts. 941 00:39:38,545 --> 00:39:40,765 I'm with you Scott. I'm not a great prompt engineer. 942 00:39:41,035 --> 00:39:43,165 That is an area where I need to learn. 943 00:39:43,225 --> 00:39:45,245 So I'm always intrigued with other prompts 944 00:39:45,245 --> 00:39:47,045 that people have developed and wanna share. 945 00:39:47,225 --> 00:39:49,965 We need to create like a prompt to library somewhere. That's 946 00:39:49,965 --> 00:39:51,365 - What Loop is for or OneNote. 947 00:39:51,685 --> 00:39:54,685 - . Okay, perfect. Sounds good. Thanks Scott. All 948 00:39:54,685 --> 00:39:55,685 - Right, sounds good. 949 00:39:55,685 --> 00:39:57,165 Enjoy the weekend. Enjoy the derby. 950 00:39:57,185 --> 00:39:58,285 - You too. We'll talk to you later. 951 00:39:58,385 --> 00:40:02,485 - All right, thanks Ben. - If you enjoyed the podcast, 952 00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:04,925 go leave us a five star rating in iTunes. 953 00:40:05,065 --> 00:40:06,405 It helps to get the word out 954 00:40:06,505 --> 00:40:10,165 so more it pros can learn about Office 365 and Azure. 955 00:40:10,945 --> 00:40:13,485 If you have any questions you want us to address on the show 956 00:40:13,625 --> 00:40:16,085 or feedback about the show, feel free 957 00:40:16,105 --> 00:40:19,165 to reach out via our website, Twitter, or Facebook. 958 00:40:19,425 --> 00:40:21,445 Thanks again for listening and have a great day.

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Ben Stegink, Scott Hoag

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