Episode 398 – PowerShell and Intune with Harm Veenstra

March 27, 2025

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Welcome to Episode 398 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast. In this episode Ben meets up with Harm Veenstra at the annual Microsoft MVP Summit. They chat a bit about Harm experience as an MVP and his path to becoming an MVP. Then the move into a few technologies near and dear to Harm, PowerShell and Microsoft Intune. They start off talking about some of the ways Harm uses PowerShell and some of his favorite scripts. They talk about how he uses PowerShell with Intune, in particular using it with remediation scripts.

Harm Veenstra

Harm started working at 18, from a ServiceDesk employee to a workspace and system engineer at a large insurance firm in the Netherlands. 1996, those were the days! After working there for almost 11 years, Harm had different system engineer jobs and learned much about Citrix, Cisco, VMWare, storage, and Microsoft. Currently, He’s employed at NEXXT (https://www.nexxt.one) as a Consultant, mainly in Endpoint Management, but He does anything Microsoft 😉 (Client, Server, 365, and Azure).

And… He became a Microsoft MVP in March 2024 in PowerShell!

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1 00:00:03,439 --> 00:00:05,759 Welcome to episode 398 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,720 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro podcast recorded 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,619 live on 03/25/2025. 4 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:13,844 This is a show about Microsoft three sixty 5 00:00:13,844 --> 00:00:15,924 five in Azure from the perspective of IT 6 00:00:15,924 --> 00:00:17,925 pros and end users, where we discuss the 7 00:00:17,925 --> 00:00:20,085 topic or recent news and how it relates 8 00:00:20,085 --> 00:00:22,564 to you. This week, Ben and Scott are 9 00:00:22,564 --> 00:00:24,804 both out at the annual MVP summit. And 10 00:00:24,804 --> 00:00:26,589 while we can't talk about what we're learning 11 00:00:26,589 --> 00:00:28,689 out here, we can talk to other MVPs 12 00:00:28,750 --> 00:00:30,750 that are out here with us. So, for 13 00:00:30,750 --> 00:00:33,629 this episode, Ben sits down with Harm at 14 00:00:33,629 --> 00:00:36,829 Feinstra for a chat. They discuss everything from 15 00:00:36,829 --> 00:00:39,469 Harm's experience becoming an MVP to what he's 16 00:00:39,469 --> 00:00:41,685 been doing with PowerShell, as well as his 17 00:00:41,685 --> 00:00:43,844 work around Microsoft Intune, and how he even 18 00:00:43,844 --> 00:00:46,005 uses PowerShell with some of the Intune and 19 00:00:46,005 --> 00:00:48,244 other Microsoft three sixty five work that he 20 00:00:48,244 --> 00:00:48,744 does. 21 00:00:50,804 --> 00:00:53,204 So we're here, MVP summit. Scott and I 22 00:00:53,204 --> 00:00:54,325 are actually both out here. We do a 23 00:00:54,325 --> 00:00:57,969 few interviews. So Scott's somewhere off gallivanting around 24 00:00:57,969 --> 00:01:00,369 with other people, but Harm, you ran into 25 00:01:00,369 --> 00:01:00,869 Scott 26 00:01:01,329 --> 00:01:02,850 yesterday. Yes, sir. Right? You run a product 27 00:01:02,850 --> 00:01:04,209 round table, you were talking with him, and 28 00:01:04,209 --> 00:01:06,129 we're like, hey, we should do a podcast 29 00:01:06,129 --> 00:01:08,894 interview with Harm while you're here. So Yep. 30 00:01:08,974 --> 00:01:10,575 We're sitting down here in one of the 31 00:01:10,575 --> 00:01:13,054 buildings at Microsoft and you wanna introduce yourself, 32 00:01:13,054 --> 00:01:14,734 tell us a little bit about who you 33 00:01:14,734 --> 00:01:16,814 are. Yes. Who is Harm? Who who is 34 00:01:16,814 --> 00:01:19,295 Harm? My name is Harm Feynstra, typical Dutch 35 00:01:19,295 --> 00:01:22,094 name. I'm a partial MVP since last year. 36 00:01:22,094 --> 00:01:24,239 That's the reason why I'm here, my first 37 00:01:24,479 --> 00:01:26,099 annual MVP Summit. Congratulations 38 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,700 on your first one. 39 00:01:28,719 --> 00:01:30,239 Oh, it's been it's it's been a while. 40 00:01:30,239 --> 00:01:31,840 It it was not easy getting there, but 41 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,420 Yeah. 42 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:33,280 And, 43 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,079 in my normal day to day thing, I'm 44 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:38,319 an IT consultant. I work for Next, which 45 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,700 is a company in The Netherlands, 46 00:01:40,265 --> 00:01:43,724 and we do IT things for larger companies 47 00:01:44,024 --> 00:01:47,625 in The Netherlands. Mostly government, hospitals, industry, those 48 00:01:47,625 --> 00:01:49,465 kind of things. Okay. Companies that move slow 49 00:01:49,465 --> 00:01:50,905 and you have lots of red tape to 50 00:01:50,905 --> 00:01:53,590 cut through and Yes. But you also get 51 00:01:53,590 --> 00:01:56,329 very interesting things. So, yeah, so again, congratulations 52 00:01:56,390 --> 00:01:58,469 on MVP. It'll be We'll talk a little 53 00:01:58,469 --> 00:02:00,469 bit more about that, but how's the summit 54 00:02:00,469 --> 00:02:02,469 been so far? We're like, I mean technically 55 00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:03,689 it's kind of the first 56 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:05,984 day and we can't talk a whole lot 57 00:02:05,984 --> 00:02:08,064 about our experience Is that just no content? 58 00:02:08,064 --> 00:02:10,064 No. Right. Yeah. No content, but have you 59 00:02:10,064 --> 00:02:12,784 been enjoying it so far? Yes. Besides all 60 00:02:12,784 --> 00:02:14,085 the sessions that I attended 61 00:02:14,544 --> 00:02:15,284 so far, 62 00:02:15,665 --> 00:02:18,224 getting to know and see the actual people 63 00:02:18,224 --> 00:02:20,580 that you only know online here is great. 64 00:02:20,659 --> 00:02:22,819 The community is great. Yep. Right. And that's 65 00:02:22,819 --> 00:02:24,580 always the part like this and all the 66 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:26,659 conferences. Like, people are like, well, it's virtual. 67 00:02:26,659 --> 00:02:27,939 I can see all the sessions. And it's 68 00:02:27,939 --> 00:02:29,780 like It's not the same. I I did 69 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:30,759 that last year 70 00:02:31,060 --> 00:02:32,199 because I was, 71 00:02:32,580 --> 00:02:34,740 I became an MVP in March. 72 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:35,240 Okay. 73 00:02:35,615 --> 00:02:37,615 And I just missed the MVP summit because 74 00:02:37,615 --> 00:02:40,034 of that. And I attended a few sessions. 75 00:02:40,094 --> 00:02:40,594 Firstly, 76 00:02:41,375 --> 00:02:42,814 it's not the same. You don't get to 77 00:02:42,814 --> 00:02:44,495 feel from the room. You don't talk to 78 00:02:44,495 --> 00:02:45,955 people. You don't have the hallway 79 00:02:46,254 --> 00:02:49,680 talks. Yeah. The hallway talks are, like, same 80 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,120 thing yesterday. There were some sessions I was 81 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,239 gonna go, so we sat down at a 82 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:53,919 table and started talking to some people, and, 83 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,159 like, three hours later, we're still sitting at 84 00:02:56,159 --> 00:02:57,840 the table. And that's just stuff you don't 85 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,979 get in 86 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,199 virtual, whether it's this or I would say 87 00:03:01,199 --> 00:03:03,939 even conferences. Like, as conferences start coming back, 88 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,634 whether it's Ignite, I'm assuming same thing in 89 00:03:06,634 --> 00:03:08,555 The Netherlands. Some of the in person stuff 90 00:03:08,555 --> 00:03:10,314 has started to be open. Meetup with fans, 91 00:03:10,314 --> 00:03:13,275 so yes. Yeah. So what was your experience? 92 00:03:13,275 --> 00:03:15,455 Like, this is always an interesting thing in 93 00:03:15,514 --> 00:03:17,854 talking to different MVPs is that experience 94 00:03:18,290 --> 00:03:20,930 to becoming an MVP. And I know talking 95 00:03:20,930 --> 00:03:22,230 to people that aren't MVPs, 96 00:03:22,689 --> 00:03:25,010 they sometimes have that question as, what does 97 00:03:25,010 --> 00:03:26,550 that path look like? 98 00:03:26,849 --> 00:03:28,950 Everybody, I feel like it's been a little 99 00:03:29,010 --> 00:03:31,170 different in how they got there, what that 100 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:32,469 process was. So 101 00:03:32,814 --> 00:03:34,574 what has that kind of been like going 102 00:03:34,574 --> 00:03:35,074 from 103 00:03:35,455 --> 00:03:37,074 moving into becoming an MVP? 104 00:03:37,375 --> 00:03:40,814 Well, first, you have to really know what 105 00:03:40,814 --> 00:03:43,134 it takes to become an MVP. You really 106 00:03:43,134 --> 00:03:45,134 gotta put yourself out there. You have to 107 00:03:45,134 --> 00:03:46,514 do your community work. 108 00:03:46,909 --> 00:03:48,750 You you don't necessarily need to speak at 109 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:50,590 events. That's the thing that hold held me 110 00:03:50,590 --> 00:03:52,430 back because, well, I must be a speaker. 111 00:03:52,430 --> 00:03:54,349 Otherwise, I won't become an amputee. That's not 112 00:03:54,349 --> 00:03:56,050 true. I do a lot for the community, 113 00:03:56,110 --> 00:03:56,769 and that's 114 00:03:57,150 --> 00:03:59,789 enough for becoming an amputee. You still need 115 00:03:59,789 --> 00:04:02,234 to be like somebody like a Microsoft full 116 00:04:02,234 --> 00:04:04,495 time employee or another MVP has to, 117 00:04:05,114 --> 00:04:07,354 try to make you one. Yep. Yep. Fill 118 00:04:07,354 --> 00:04:09,914 up that nomination. The the nomination part. Well 119 00:04:09,995 --> 00:04:12,474 yep. But when that's I think it took, 120 00:04:12,474 --> 00:04:14,400 like, six months for me to become an 121 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,060 MVP because the MVP program changed during 122 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,060 during last 123 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,399 September, October last year, and it took like 124 00:04:22,399 --> 00:04:25,060 six months. So yeah. Got it. 125 00:04:26,685 --> 00:04:28,845 Every email that you receive from Microsoft, you 126 00:04:28,845 --> 00:04:30,764 think, this is the moment that they'll tell 127 00:04:30,764 --> 00:04:32,524 me that my name's been and and no, 128 00:04:32,524 --> 00:04:35,185 it's just another status update. It'll take some 129 00:04:35,324 --> 00:04:37,324 longer. We're still working on it. Yeah. It'll 130 00:04:37,324 --> 00:04:39,324 be Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting that you 131 00:04:39,324 --> 00:04:41,189 bring up the speaker because it is. Like, 132 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:42,629 you and I were actually talking. We had 133 00:04:42,629 --> 00:04:44,569 lunch together too, and we're hanging out, and 134 00:04:44,789 --> 00:04:47,350 we both, like, do Facebook groups that have 135 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:48,870 a bunch of people in it moderate that, 136 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:51,209 and I know you moderate some other communities 137 00:04:51,349 --> 00:04:54,329 where it's not necessarily speaking. That's 138 00:04:54,654 --> 00:04:56,574 one avenue, but it can be something like 139 00:04:56,574 --> 00:04:58,115 a Facebook group or moderating 140 00:04:58,574 --> 00:05:02,354 a community on another website or doing podcasts. 141 00:05:02,495 --> 00:05:04,334 You can contribute in so many ways. Yeah. 142 00:05:04,334 --> 00:05:05,475 Blogs. I noticed 143 00:05:06,014 --> 00:05:07,703 your blog. I went and checked out your 144 00:05:07,703 --> 00:05:09,294 blog too, and I'm like, he does way 145 00:05:09,294 --> 00:05:10,884 better at writing articles on his blog than 146 00:05:10,884 --> 00:05:12,475 I do. My last blog post was like 147 00:05:12,475 --> 00:05:14,066 a year ago. Yeah. And I think that's 148 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:15,657 another one is people are MVPs are like, 149 00:05:15,657 --> 00:05:17,248 oh, I had a blog all the time. 150 00:05:17,248 --> 00:05:18,839 I haven't blogged in like a year, a 151 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,275 year and a half. Yeah. Because I do 152 00:05:20,275 --> 00:05:22,115 the podcast and I do other community stuff. 153 00:05:22,115 --> 00:05:23,475 So So so you have that, but I 154 00:05:23,475 --> 00:05:25,555 have my, like, weekly blog. And it sometimes 155 00:05:25,555 --> 00:05:27,415 it's difficult. You have to have new subjects 156 00:05:27,475 --> 00:05:29,475 every week. Yep. But you get good at 157 00:05:29,475 --> 00:05:31,074 it. Does AI help you come up with 158 00:05:31,074 --> 00:05:32,995 subjects and insight? No. No. It can help 159 00:05:32,995 --> 00:05:34,435 with them all. Yeah. And it it it's 160 00:05:34,435 --> 00:05:36,539 all based on things that I see at 161 00:05:36,539 --> 00:05:39,339 my customers' locations, things that I automate at 162 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:41,899 home. Yeah. Those are my topics. Yeah. Okay. 163 00:05:41,899 --> 00:05:44,800 Real life. Yeah. So why PowerShell? 164 00:05:45,259 --> 00:05:46,800 Like, that's an interesting 165 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:49,019 category, and we we were talking a little 166 00:05:49,019 --> 00:05:50,800 bit about that too. But how do you, 167 00:05:51,164 --> 00:05:53,324 I guess, why PowerShell MVP? And then we 168 00:05:53,324 --> 00:05:55,264 can even talk about how you got into 169 00:05:55,485 --> 00:05:57,644 PowerShell too. So Yeah. That's one thing we 170 00:05:57,644 --> 00:05:59,245 both like and I think we both do 171 00:05:59,245 --> 00:06:00,925 different things with it. Yeah. But You can 172 00:06:00,925 --> 00:06:04,044 use PowerShell basically for any Microsoft product because 173 00:06:04,044 --> 00:06:05,870 it's almost, like, mandatory that you have to 174 00:06:05,870 --> 00:06:08,129 have some PowerShell Some different architecture. 175 00:06:08,750 --> 00:06:11,569 With it. I think it started with batch 176 00:06:11,709 --> 00:06:15,629 DOS batch CMD scripting. Okay. I even skipped 177 00:06:15,629 --> 00:06:16,930 the whole VBS part. 178 00:06:17,389 --> 00:06:17,889 But, 179 00:06:18,365 --> 00:06:20,685 yes, because you need automation. As an IT 180 00:06:20,685 --> 00:06:23,004 admin, you need automation, and I don't like 181 00:06:23,004 --> 00:06:25,324 clicking stuff, being a click ops kind of 182 00:06:25,324 --> 00:06:25,824 guy. 183 00:06:26,444 --> 00:06:28,605 So you automate things in. Oh, we have 184 00:06:28,605 --> 00:06:30,944 people waving at us. Yeah. More friends. Right? 185 00:06:31,084 --> 00:06:33,185 More more people from The Netherlands. Yes. 186 00:06:33,930 --> 00:06:36,250 But you start to automate, like, everything because, 187 00:06:36,490 --> 00:06:38,009 as as a good admin, you're a lazy 188 00:06:38,009 --> 00:06:40,490 admin. You automate Right. You know. There's even 189 00:06:40,490 --> 00:06:42,730 that website, like, to go to the lazyadminYeah..com 190 00:06:42,730 --> 00:06:45,464 website for Yeah. Yeah, for PowerShell scripts. Yeah. 191 00:06:45,944 --> 00:06:48,824 But yes. So so that's where everything started, 192 00:06:48,824 --> 00:06:51,144 I guess, because I really like automating stuff 193 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:51,644 being 194 00:06:52,105 --> 00:06:55,704 this smarter, more efficient at end. Yeah. Yeah. 195 00:06:55,704 --> 00:06:57,464 So that's that's the thing that really drove 196 00:06:57,464 --> 00:06:59,544 me to PowerShell1.zero, 197 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:01,064 if you can even call it that because 198 00:07:01,064 --> 00:07:03,459 that's that's that's Monet. That's the project name 199 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:05,680 back then. That's that's been a while. I 200 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,839 think I did that because was so I'm 201 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,259 gonna go back and we'll talk about, like, 202 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:12,480 when you started writing PowerShell. Was that, like, 203 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,365 02/2006? 204 00:07:14,365 --> 00:07:16,925 Two thousand '6? Yeah. Sometime in there. Yep. 205 00:07:16,925 --> 00:07:19,004 Okay. So how did you start writing PowerShell 206 00:07:19,004 --> 00:07:21,884 then? What moved you from because before that 207 00:07:21,884 --> 00:07:23,485 it was like command line, right? Yep. Right? 208 00:07:23,485 --> 00:07:25,665 You did this stuff. You're just calling executables. 209 00:07:25,725 --> 00:07:28,365 Yeah. Batch scripts. Yep. Or not the batch, 210 00:07:28,365 --> 00:07:31,029 batch files. Right? Yep. Yeah. So how do 211 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:33,509 what caused you to kinda transition into PowerShell? 212 00:07:33,509 --> 00:07:34,569 What drew you to PowerShell? 213 00:07:35,029 --> 00:07:36,970 Because I tried automating 214 00:07:38,069 --> 00:07:40,709 analyzing logs using batch scripting, and it took, 215 00:07:40,709 --> 00:07:43,375 like, weeks of getting the right formats. And 216 00:07:43,375 --> 00:07:44,754 I tried it in PowerShell 217 00:07:45,134 --> 00:07:47,055 even with the early versions, and I was 218 00:07:47,055 --> 00:07:50,254 done in fifteen minutes. Okay. So, yeah, I 219 00:07:50,254 --> 00:07:52,334 really saw the power of it straight away. 220 00:07:52,334 --> 00:07:55,709 Yep. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. I started so 221 00:07:55,709 --> 00:07:57,569 I came SharePoint background. Yep. 222 00:07:57,949 --> 00:07:59,069 And that's where I was going in my 223 00:07:59,069 --> 00:08:00,910 head when I was thinking about PowerShell one 224 00:08:00,910 --> 00:08:01,350 was 225 00:08:01,790 --> 00:08:04,990 Yep. PowerShell '2 thousand seven, which beta started 226 00:08:04,990 --> 00:08:07,709 coming out 02/2005, '2 thousand '6, had STS 227 00:08:07,709 --> 00:08:09,889 ADM. It was their whole command line interface. 228 00:08:09,949 --> 00:08:13,224 Yep. And I started writing PowerShell scripts to 229 00:08:13,224 --> 00:08:15,784 wrap around the command line interface so that 230 00:08:15,784 --> 00:08:17,644 I could put, like, command line interface 231 00:08:18,024 --> 00:08:20,745 commands to go work with different SharePoint sites 232 00:08:20,745 --> 00:08:23,224 in a loop because writing a loop in 233 00:08:23,224 --> 00:08:25,305 PowerShell was way easier than 234 00:08:25,944 --> 00:08:28,740 Yeah. So so you've been doing PowerShell for 235 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,120 quite a while then. Yeah. How have you 236 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,320 seen that change over time? Like, how have 237 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,720 you gotten excited about it? We're talking about 238 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,360 one. Today, we're at version seven. Version seven. 239 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,625 Yeah. Yeah. How has it kinda changed and 240 00:08:41,625 --> 00:08:42,125 evolved 241 00:08:42,585 --> 00:08:44,985 and even how you've used it over the 242 00:08:44,985 --> 00:08:46,664 course of the last or even the sun 243 00:08:46,664 --> 00:08:48,264 really will know? We got it. The last, 244 00:08:48,264 --> 00:08:51,625 like, six, eight Eighteen eighteen years, nineteen years? 245 00:08:51,625 --> 00:08:52,904 Yeah. It's been a 246 00:08:53,785 --> 00:08:57,509 well, since PowerShell version two and three four 247 00:08:57,509 --> 00:08:59,590 came out and since version five, which is, 248 00:08:59,590 --> 00:09:02,070 like, basically included in every Windows version now 249 00:09:02,309 --> 00:09:02,809 Yep. 250 00:09:03,429 --> 00:09:05,509 It has evolved from just being there for 251 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:06,009 Windows 252 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:09,544 to also being that's PowerShell six core to 253 00:09:09,544 --> 00:09:11,304 a multi platform thing. And that's the thing 254 00:09:11,304 --> 00:09:13,544 that I really like about Microsoft, not tiny 255 00:09:13,544 --> 00:09:14,444 bit of Microsoft 256 00:09:14,745 --> 00:09:15,245 advocates 257 00:09:15,784 --> 00:09:18,105 here, but, the the whole cross platform thing. 258 00:09:18,105 --> 00:09:19,384 You can run it on Linux, you can 259 00:09:19,384 --> 00:09:20,745 run it on macOS, you can run it 260 00:09:20,745 --> 00:09:22,049 on Windows. Yep. 261 00:09:22,429 --> 00:09:24,670 Make make stuff so much easier. It's it's 262 00:09:24,670 --> 00:09:28,110 platform independent now. Yeah. What's that so I 263 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:29,790 guess, do you run it on macOS? What 264 00:09:29,790 --> 00:09:31,309 do you use? Do you have you switched 265 00:09:31,309 --> 00:09:33,070 to macOS or you No. No. No. Still, 266 00:09:33,070 --> 00:09:34,910 I'm I'm a I'm a hardcore Windows user. 267 00:09:34,910 --> 00:09:35,889 Okay. Yeah. 268 00:09:36,495 --> 00:09:38,254 But I used it on Linux, even on 269 00:09:38,254 --> 00:09:40,575 my Raspberry Pi at home, for example. You 270 00:09:40,575 --> 00:09:43,054 can use it on everything. Yep. Yeah. It 271 00:09:43,054 --> 00:09:45,375 was it was fun. Like, I got excited 272 00:09:45,375 --> 00:09:46,654 about that too because I've been a Mac 273 00:09:46,654 --> 00:09:48,894 guy for years, and if you've listened to 274 00:09:48,894 --> 00:09:50,559 the podcast, you know I've 275 00:09:50,940 --> 00:09:52,720 kind of You tried to use it to 276 00:09:52,779 --> 00:09:53,919 Windows and, like, 277 00:09:54,379 --> 00:09:55,519 oh, man. But 278 00:09:55,899 --> 00:09:57,659 it is nice to see it and have 279 00:09:57,659 --> 00:09:59,899 that ability to use it across all of 280 00:09:59,899 --> 00:10:01,339 them. Yeah. You only have to learn it 281 00:10:01,339 --> 00:10:03,600 once, and you can reapply it on multiple 282 00:10:03,659 --> 00:10:06,235 OS. Exactly. Or even in the cloud, like, 283 00:10:06,235 --> 00:10:07,754 you can go to run it in Cloud 284 00:10:07,754 --> 00:10:10,235 Shell now, which I think, technically, I think 285 00:10:10,235 --> 00:10:12,254 Cloud Shell runs a lot on a Linux 286 00:10:12,555 --> 00:10:15,035 back ground. It's like a Linux container that's 287 00:10:15,035 --> 00:10:17,610 being started. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're writing 288 00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:20,029 PowerShell in the cloud, you're actually using Linux. 289 00:10:20,889 --> 00:10:22,970 Yeah. It runs on Linux. Yeah. Like like 290 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:24,809 most of the things in Azure. It does. 291 00:10:24,809 --> 00:10:27,070 Yeah. So what are ways you use PowerShell? 292 00:10:27,210 --> 00:10:29,850 Like, as you, again, started using a cross 293 00:10:29,850 --> 00:10:31,309 platform, day to day work, 294 00:10:32,164 --> 00:10:34,004 what are some of those ways that you 295 00:10:34,004 --> 00:10:36,245 found that that you really enjoy it, that 296 00:10:36,245 --> 00:10:37,544 save you a bunch of time? 297 00:10:38,725 --> 00:10:40,964 Mostly the automation part of the the whole 298 00:10:40,964 --> 00:10:43,445 use management thing, but also for the migrations 299 00:10:43,445 --> 00:10:45,764 that I do, mostly for, like, exchange line 300 00:10:45,764 --> 00:10:46,264 migrations. 301 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,839 I just script all the best creation stuff 302 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:51,279 out so that I don't need to, like, 303 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:54,720 manually CSV everything or I can be so 304 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:55,459 much more 305 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,879 productive and faster in creating stuff than using 306 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:00,879 their normal click ups kind of way. Yeah. 307 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:01,274 Yeah. 308 00:11:01,915 --> 00:11:04,634 So you said Exchange migrations? Yep. Also. That's 309 00:11:04,634 --> 00:11:06,575 one. What other one? Exchange? 310 00:11:07,035 --> 00:11:08,715 A lot of Microsoft three sixty five or 311 00:11:08,715 --> 00:11:11,375 even outside of Microsoft three sixty five? Microsoft 312 00:11:11,595 --> 00:11:14,335 Graph interfaces for creating stuff in Intune, 313 00:11:14,955 --> 00:11:18,259 configuration profiles, platform scripts, those kind of things. 314 00:11:18,259 --> 00:11:18,759 Yep. 315 00:11:19,139 --> 00:11:21,620 Okay. Do you have a favorite? Like, if 316 00:11:21,860 --> 00:11:23,059 do you have a library of all these 317 00:11:23,059 --> 00:11:24,819 scripts that you've written that you have? I 318 00:11:24,819 --> 00:11:26,659 have my own GitHub repository, and I have 319 00:11:26,659 --> 00:11:28,259 the one that I use to provide. One? 320 00:11:28,259 --> 00:11:29,620 Do you keep it private so we can't, 321 00:11:29,620 --> 00:11:31,299 like, go and get it? Yes. And we 322 00:11:31,299 --> 00:11:32,865 also have a company one. Yep. 323 00:11:33,825 --> 00:11:36,784 That's really customer related stuff in there. Right. 324 00:11:36,784 --> 00:11:38,705 Well, a lot of it's, like, almost intellectual 325 00:11:38,705 --> 00:11:40,784 property. Right? Like Yeah. As a company, because 326 00:11:40,784 --> 00:11:42,144 I've done the same thing. I'm always on 327 00:11:42,144 --> 00:11:44,225 that fence of especially as an MVP. Yeah. 328 00:11:44,225 --> 00:11:45,504 Do I create a bunch of scripts that 329 00:11:45,504 --> 00:11:47,825 I share externally? Do I try to keep 330 00:11:47,825 --> 00:11:50,759 some of them internal? And Yeah. I like 331 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:53,080 sharing with the community, and the community, also 332 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,700 shares a lot of stuff with me. So 333 00:11:54,759 --> 00:11:56,840 you'll benefit from that, but you can't share 334 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,100 every line of code. Yeah. Especially when you 335 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,105 really invest hours in customers' time. Yes. So 336 00:12:03,184 --> 00:12:04,945 it can't. Right. You can't, like, get paid 337 00:12:04,945 --> 00:12:06,304 to write a script for a customer and 338 00:12:06,304 --> 00:12:08,464 then just be, oh, here. Here it's it 339 00:12:08,464 --> 00:12:10,784 now. Yeah. No. Do you have a favorite 340 00:12:10,945 --> 00:12:13,664 like, if you think through your repositories and 341 00:12:13,664 --> 00:12:15,424 all the scripts you've written, did you ever 342 00:12:15,424 --> 00:12:17,039 write one that you're, like, you were just 343 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:18,480 so proud of? You're like, oh, the script 344 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,399 is amazing. This is the best script I've 345 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:21,460 ever written. Or 346 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,639 I I think the one that I used 347 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:27,000 for Windows Sandbox, if you know the the 348 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,139 the the Windows feature that you can actually 349 00:12:29,285 --> 00:12:30,184 run like a 350 00:12:30,644 --> 00:12:32,965 disposable Windows VM on Windows, Windows Sandbox. I 351 00:12:32,965 --> 00:12:34,184 have not played with that. 352 00:12:34,485 --> 00:12:36,004 You can put that on your back wall. 353 00:12:36,004 --> 00:12:37,764 I'm a Mac OS. Go on my list. 354 00:12:37,764 --> 00:12:38,884 Yeah. You can tell you listened to the 355 00:12:38,884 --> 00:12:40,085 package. You're like, just add it to your 356 00:12:40,085 --> 00:12:41,144 list. You never do. 357 00:12:41,524 --> 00:12:43,789 Yeah. But I can spin up a, a 358 00:12:43,789 --> 00:12:45,870 Windows sandbox, connect my Versus code to it, 359 00:12:45,870 --> 00:12:48,110 and start running my code in a in 360 00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:48,750 a disposable 361 00:12:49,309 --> 00:12:51,710 doesn't even matter if I completely screw that 362 00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:52,450 VM up. 363 00:12:53,070 --> 00:12:54,830 That's the whole process. So it makes my 364 00:12:54,830 --> 00:12:57,695 personal development a lot easier. Got it. 365 00:13:01,514 --> 00:13:03,674 Do you feel overwhelmed by trying to manage 366 00:13:03,674 --> 00:13:05,995 your Office three sixty five environment? Are you 367 00:13:05,995 --> 00:13:09,214 facing unexpected issues that disrupt your company's productivity? 368 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,600 Is here to help. 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Yes. 389 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,759 And especially to test them because if it 390 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:11,360 runs on my machine, I can't put my 391 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,279 machine in production for everybody. So it has 392 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:14,799 to run on on a key machine as 393 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:17,040 well. Yep. So Okay. I always test my 394 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,720 code like that. Yep. Got it. So that 395 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,000 script to just kind of spin it up, 396 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,600 you're like, I'm gonna go develop scripts. So 397 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,615 I spin up that sandbox. Yep. And I 398 00:14:23,615 --> 00:14:25,695 can connect my Versus code to it and 399 00:14:25,695 --> 00:14:27,875 immediately start developing in a Windows VM 400 00:14:28,254 --> 00:14:30,894 safely. Okay. Yep. So does that script do 401 00:14:30,894 --> 00:14:32,575 all of that then from spinning it up 402 00:14:32,575 --> 00:14:34,195 to Yep. Just like installing 403 00:14:35,070 --> 00:14:37,710 or installing Visual Studio. Running the script actually 404 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:40,110 starts up the Windows Sandbox installs feature. If 405 00:14:40,110 --> 00:14:41,330 it's not already installed, 406 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:43,549 it pushes out the the agent to it. 407 00:14:43,549 --> 00:14:45,629 It tries to determine what IP address it 408 00:14:45,629 --> 00:14:47,950 has, and it connects official code with using 409 00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:48,450 SSH. 410 00:14:48,830 --> 00:14:49,394 The whole 411 00:14:49,875 --> 00:14:53,095 step step step step. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Alright. 412 00:14:53,955 --> 00:14:56,455 Very cool. And any other types of automation 413 00:14:56,675 --> 00:14:57,175 that 414 00:14:57,875 --> 00:15:00,274 Hyper V management for my lab environment. Yes. 415 00:15:00,274 --> 00:15:03,394 Okay. Completely Windows updating all my Windows VMs 416 00:15:03,394 --> 00:15:03,809 because 417 00:15:04,289 --> 00:15:05,970 it's been a hassle to update, like, 20 418 00:15:05,970 --> 00:15:07,889 VMs, keep them up to date, so I 419 00:15:07,889 --> 00:15:09,889 automate them. Yep. That that's why you gotta 420 00:15:09,889 --> 00:15:12,210 use Azure. What about those Azure VMs and 421 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:13,269 spinning those up? 422 00:15:13,730 --> 00:15:15,250 Yeah. But those cost a lot more than 423 00:15:15,250 --> 00:15:17,110 what I have on my laptop. Yeah. 424 00:15:17,649 --> 00:15:18,149 Yeah. 425 00:15:18,735 --> 00:15:20,174 Yeah. I I run a lot of stuff 426 00:15:20,174 --> 00:15:22,174 on my laptop just because, oh, I do 427 00:15:22,174 --> 00:15:24,034 have my MPM, my partnership, 428 00:15:24,414 --> 00:15:27,134 official studio, like, 150 429 00:15:27,134 --> 00:15:29,774 a month. Yep. But that's usually not enough. 430 00:15:29,774 --> 00:15:31,615 It goes back. Yeah. Yeah. You you run 431 00:15:31,615 --> 00:15:33,475 through that money in a hurry. Yeah. 432 00:15:35,899 --> 00:15:38,139 What are their lessons learned? Like as you've 433 00:15:38,139 --> 00:15:40,080 gone through and worked with PowerShell 434 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:44,320 over the years as you've learned about it, 435 00:15:45,019 --> 00:15:48,059 if other people are wanting to get started 436 00:15:48,059 --> 00:15:50,845 with PowerShell or like you'd be like, you 437 00:15:50,845 --> 00:15:53,105 know what, you wanna start learning it, here's 438 00:15:53,325 --> 00:15:55,084 a tip or a trick, here's something that 439 00:15:55,084 --> 00:15:56,784 I was struggling with. 440 00:15:57,164 --> 00:15:58,865 Like how would you guide people? 441 00:15:59,725 --> 00:16:01,644 I used to be Yeah. I mean I 442 00:16:01,644 --> 00:16:03,700 would've can't hope a lot of people use 443 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:05,700 PowerShell, but every bit there's always people that 444 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:07,300 are new to it, right? Yeah. If you're, 445 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,540 like, really new to it, Microsoft Learn has, 446 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:12,019 like, a a complete course. I think it's 447 00:16:12,019 --> 00:16:13,559 AAC 40 448 00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:15,700 c something. Okay. You can you can you 449 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:17,240 can find it on Microsoft Learn. 450 00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:18,965 This has, like, a really 451 00:16:19,585 --> 00:16:22,004 step by step first introduction to PowerShell. 452 00:16:23,504 --> 00:16:24,004 And 453 00:16:24,705 --> 00:16:27,264 if you're feeling comfortable with that, then you 454 00:16:27,264 --> 00:16:29,504 can start writing your scripts. But the things 455 00:16:29,504 --> 00:16:31,184 that I did in the past, like hard 456 00:16:31,184 --> 00:16:34,070 coding stuff, not making things, like, reusable, 457 00:16:34,529 --> 00:16:36,389 that's the thing that you learn just by 458 00:16:36,529 --> 00:16:39,090 practicing more. It's not something you develop, like, 459 00:16:39,090 --> 00:16:40,870 straight away. Yeah. Writing 460 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:43,970 writing functions, which kind of brings into The 461 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:46,049 next time We talked about this even getting 462 00:16:46,049 --> 00:16:48,205 into PowerShell, like, developers. 463 00:16:48,585 --> 00:16:50,904 Scott and I always joke about making fun 464 00:16:50,904 --> 00:16:52,985 of developers, and we're not developers. But then 465 00:16:52,985 --> 00:16:54,825 you write PowerShell, and even some of the 466 00:16:54,825 --> 00:16:57,565 conferences and stuff put PowerShell under a development 467 00:16:57,865 --> 00:16:58,365 track. 468 00:16:59,304 --> 00:17:02,000 What are your thoughts? Scripting, coding, development? 469 00:17:02,539 --> 00:17:04,059 How do you I don't see myself as 470 00:17:04,059 --> 00:17:05,980 a developer. No. I'm I'm not like a 471 00:17:05,980 --> 00:17:07,039 c sharp developer. 472 00:17:07,420 --> 00:17:09,500 I'm a I'm a scripter. That's I think 473 00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:11,339 that's the correct term for it. I I 474 00:17:11,339 --> 00:17:13,440 I use a framework which is already there 475 00:17:13,660 --> 00:17:15,464 to my benefit, but I'm not really a 476 00:17:15,464 --> 00:17:17,865 programmer. I can't build this from scratch. Okay. 477 00:17:17,865 --> 00:17:18,365 No. 478 00:17:18,744 --> 00:17:20,744 But you still can go write functions. Right? 479 00:17:20,744 --> 00:17:23,484 Do you still need, like, mini programming? Maybe. 480 00:17:23,625 --> 00:17:24,125 No. 481 00:17:24,505 --> 00:17:27,565 No. But but functions are good. Reusable functions, 482 00:17:27,625 --> 00:17:29,940 creating modules. Yep. Yep. I have not done 483 00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:31,700 much with creating modules. Have you created a 484 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:33,779 bunch of different modules too? Like I'm I'm 485 00:17:33,779 --> 00:17:35,299 I'm working on that because that's a skill 486 00:17:35,299 --> 00:17:37,539 that I don't master at at this moment 487 00:17:37,539 --> 00:17:38,039 because 488 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:40,659 writing separate scripts and functions is a lot 489 00:17:40,659 --> 00:17:42,755 easier than Right. Publishing a 490 00:17:43,134 --> 00:17:45,134 mobile module to the PowerShell gallery, that's a 491 00:17:45,134 --> 00:17:47,055 thing that I still want to do, but 492 00:17:47,055 --> 00:17:49,855 that's something something's holding me back. And perhaps 493 00:17:49,855 --> 00:17:52,095 it's scary because more people will see your 494 00:17:52,095 --> 00:17:54,575 codes and Uh-huh. Will probably comment on that. 495 00:17:54,575 --> 00:17:55,075 Yep. 496 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:56,950 Do you have a module you wanna publish, 497 00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:58,069 like, in the back of your mind? You 498 00:17:58,069 --> 00:17:59,269 don't have to share which one, but are 499 00:17:59,269 --> 00:18:00,950 you like, I wanna create a module to 500 00:18:00,950 --> 00:18:03,669 do this? I wrote two or three scripts 501 00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:06,630 for Active Directory permissions reporting stuff, which is 502 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:08,390 really easy for the auditing stuff that I 503 00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:10,704 also do for customers. Okay. Finding a module 504 00:18:10,704 --> 00:18:12,304 for that would be great because it's so 505 00:18:12,304 --> 00:18:15,105 much easier to download, install, and use that 506 00:18:15,105 --> 00:18:17,105 in a customer's environment in a in a 507 00:18:17,105 --> 00:18:19,264 way that you should actually do that. Yeah. 508 00:18:19,264 --> 00:18:22,144 Right. Yeah. Very cool. Any other tips or 509 00:18:22,144 --> 00:18:23,845 tricks as you think about 510 00:18:24,304 --> 00:18:24,804 PowerShell, 511 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:26,660 different 512 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:29,759 I know you talked about there's another vendor 513 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:30,259 that 514 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:32,180 you've done some podcasts for 515 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,440 script script runner, I think. Are there other 516 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,980 tools that you've used 517 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,015 like script runner? I know I am always 518 00:18:40,015 --> 00:18:42,575 in Versus Code when I'm writing PowerShell, but 519 00:18:42,575 --> 00:18:44,414 any other tools that you've used that you 520 00:18:44,414 --> 00:18:45,875 really like when you're 521 00:18:46,894 --> 00:18:48,575 writing some of those scripts? ScriptRunner is more 522 00:18:48,575 --> 00:18:51,615 like a platform, but for for tool wise 523 00:18:51,615 --> 00:18:54,700 things. Yeah. That when I see people starting 524 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:55,899 IEC again, 525 00:18:57,079 --> 00:18:59,240 and I've had I always tell them, no. 526 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,279 Yes. No. Why? Why? Please use Versus Code 527 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:03,960 because it's it's so much better. And it 528 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,440 can do version five and version seven. The 529 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,904 IEC only does five. So Yeah. You're you're 530 00:19:08,904 --> 00:19:12,025 really limiting yourself. But Fisco is great. PowerShell 531 00:19:12,025 --> 00:19:14,265 development is is really great. Yeah. I keep 532 00:19:14,265 --> 00:19:17,244 waiting for Microsoft to, like, forcefully remove ISE 533 00:19:17,305 --> 00:19:17,805 from 534 00:19:18,424 --> 00:19:20,744 all these different Windows versions or because it's 535 00:19:20,744 --> 00:19:22,424 still is it it's still in Windows is 536 00:19:22,424 --> 00:19:24,659 it in Windows 11? I haven't even looked. 537 00:19:24,659 --> 00:19:27,059 Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's it's still there. If 538 00:19:27,059 --> 00:19:29,059 you use things like out grid view, which, 539 00:19:29,059 --> 00:19:30,819 like, kind of shows, like, a Windows pane 540 00:19:30,819 --> 00:19:32,500 of the things that you selected, it's it's 541 00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:34,659 a user's IC. So if you remove that, 542 00:19:34,659 --> 00:19:37,505 you also remove that capability from your strips. 543 00:19:37,505 --> 00:19:39,465 Yeah. So you have to be aware of 544 00:19:39,465 --> 00:19:42,144 that. Technical debt that Microsoft has incurred with 545 00:19:42,144 --> 00:19:43,585 some of this stuff. Yeah. It's the most 546 00:19:43,744 --> 00:19:45,904 people ask the most questions about why isn't 547 00:19:45,904 --> 00:19:48,785 PowerShell seven included in Windows by default. And 548 00:19:48,785 --> 00:19:49,765 that's the whole 549 00:19:50,579 --> 00:19:53,380 Windows shipping, the amount of work you have 550 00:19:53,380 --> 00:19:55,159 to put into it, the dot net framework, 551 00:19:55,299 --> 00:19:58,179 dependencies of that. So yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll 552 00:19:58,179 --> 00:19:59,700 see that in future. Maybe I know. I 553 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:02,099 haven't ran into that with as I've been 554 00:20:02,099 --> 00:20:04,019 playing more in Windows again and switching some 555 00:20:04,019 --> 00:20:05,554 of mine, like, you open up the terminal 556 00:20:05,554 --> 00:20:06,375 and I'm like, 557 00:20:06,674 --> 00:20:09,234 oh, yeah. PowerShell seven isn't here. I need 558 00:20:09,234 --> 00:20:10,434 to go install it, and then I need 559 00:20:10,434 --> 00:20:12,674 to switch my terminal to default to PowerShell 560 00:20:12,674 --> 00:20:14,994 seven instead of PowerShell five. Yeah. And the 561 00:20:14,994 --> 00:20:16,755 the most things that you do probably even 562 00:20:16,755 --> 00:20:19,519 still work in five. They do. It's surprising. 563 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:21,119 And I every once in a while, I 564 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,380 still actually do run into stuff that doesn't 565 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:26,319 work yet in seven. Okay. I think some 566 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:28,240 of the dependent some of the stuff in 567 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,960 core maybe isn't fully there yet. There's some 568 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,119 stuff again, being a SharePoint guy, I ran 569 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,174 into this, and this was part of my 570 00:20:35,174 --> 00:20:37,515 motivation for switching back to Windows 571 00:20:37,894 --> 00:20:38,394 is, 572 00:20:38,855 --> 00:20:41,335 well, it works on macOS. There are certain 573 00:20:41,335 --> 00:20:41,835 modules 574 00:20:42,535 --> 00:20:45,494 that rely on certain DLLs or certain Yeah. 575 00:20:45,494 --> 00:20:49,095 The whole SharePoint yeah. Right. Certain underlying files 576 00:20:49,095 --> 00:20:51,579 that just aren't there on macOS and just 577 00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:53,259 they don't work there. Yeah. So that's why 578 00:20:53,259 --> 00:20:55,259 you need and using, like, a Windows VM 579 00:20:55,259 --> 00:20:57,359 on your Mac kinda yeah. 580 00:20:57,660 --> 00:21:00,059 It runs better on a native, Windows laptop. 581 00:21:00,059 --> 00:21:02,539 Yeah. It it does. As much as I 582 00:21:02,539 --> 00:21:04,605 do miss my Mac, there are certain things 583 00:21:04,605 --> 00:21:07,164 as I've scripted that Yeah. They do still 584 00:21:07,164 --> 00:21:09,244 just work better on Windows. Yep. So what 585 00:21:09,244 --> 00:21:11,005 other stuff with cloud? I know we talked 586 00:21:11,005 --> 00:21:12,865 about you do some Intune stuff. 587 00:21:13,325 --> 00:21:14,625 When it comes to PowerShell, 588 00:21:14,924 --> 00:21:16,605 you talked about some of the stuff with 589 00:21:16,605 --> 00:21:18,779 AD, with Hyper V. How have you used 590 00:21:18,779 --> 00:21:21,019 PowerShell as it relates to some of the 591 00:21:21,019 --> 00:21:23,279 cloud stuff, to Microsoft three sixty five, 592 00:21:23,980 --> 00:21:25,120 Intune, Entra? 593 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:28,460 The whole Microsoft Graph thing. Yeah. Yeah. Besides 594 00:21:28,460 --> 00:21:29,680 as Graph, it's still 595 00:21:30,474 --> 00:21:33,115 somewhat hard to learn and it's there are 596 00:21:33,115 --> 00:21:35,194 a lot of commandlets in it. You really 597 00:21:35,194 --> 00:21:37,274 need to know to how to navigate through 598 00:21:37,274 --> 00:21:40,234 that. But using Microsoft Graph to automate all 599 00:21:40,234 --> 00:21:42,815 the intra creation of users, mailboxes, 600 00:21:43,289 --> 00:21:43,789 or 601 00:21:44,330 --> 00:21:46,170 things that you can do in Intune using 602 00:21:46,170 --> 00:21:47,070 Microsoft Graph, 603 00:21:47,529 --> 00:21:49,690 getting I use this for reporting a lot. 604 00:21:49,690 --> 00:21:52,809 Okay. Yeah. The customers will want reliable reports. 605 00:21:52,809 --> 00:21:55,049 They wanna have good overviews and I yeah. 606 00:21:55,049 --> 00:21:56,330 There's no way around it. You have to 607 00:21:56,330 --> 00:21:58,625 script. Right. Yep. Yeah. Pull it all out. 608 00:21:58,684 --> 00:21:59,884 And so once you pull it out, you 609 00:21:59,884 --> 00:22:01,404 write your PowerShell script, go pull it all 610 00:22:01,404 --> 00:22:02,845 from the graph. Do you tend to just 611 00:22:02,845 --> 00:22:04,285 pull it from the graph and export it 612 00:22:04,285 --> 00:22:07,424 to a CSV or Excel to do reporting? 613 00:22:07,484 --> 00:22:10,305 Or how do you Most customers still like 614 00:22:11,109 --> 00:22:13,369 receiving stuff in Excel files. So CSV, 615 00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:15,909 okay. But there's an import Excel module from 616 00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:16,409 Darkthink 617 00:22:16,869 --> 00:22:19,190 that will you can write to Excel straight 618 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:21,589 away or read from Excel if needed. It's 619 00:22:21,589 --> 00:22:23,429 it's easier for Yes. Yeah. So is that 620 00:22:23,429 --> 00:22:24,869 what you do? Do you export to Excel? 621 00:22:24,869 --> 00:22:26,470 You might be more efficient than that. I 622 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:28,285 always I like the import and export to 623 00:22:28,285 --> 00:22:30,045 CSV. Yep. So then I just do it 624 00:22:30,045 --> 00:22:31,244 to CSV, and then I open it up 625 00:22:31,244 --> 00:22:32,845 in Excel and save it as Excel for 626 00:22:32,845 --> 00:22:33,744 them. Yeah. 627 00:22:34,045 --> 00:22:36,305 And then you do the automation parts yourself 628 00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:38,225 being a click off. Yeah. 629 00:22:38,845 --> 00:22:40,750 Yeah. But you can export it straight away 630 00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:42,269 to Excel. It makes it a lot easier 631 00:22:42,269 --> 00:22:44,670 for the managers to receive their reports. Yeah. 632 00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:46,830 Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Do you ever build 633 00:22:46,830 --> 00:22:48,589 visuals for them too or do you just 634 00:22:48,670 --> 00:22:50,589 as a primarily, here's the data. Yeah. Here's 635 00:22:50,589 --> 00:22:52,509 the data. Yeah. What visuals do you want? 636 00:22:52,509 --> 00:22:54,289 No. I'm I'm I'm not the creative 637 00:22:54,654 --> 00:22:57,295 visualizer guy for the for the ultimate reports. 638 00:22:57,295 --> 00:22:58,115 No. No. 639 00:22:58,575 --> 00:23:00,755 It's it's part of the data. Got it. 640 00:23:00,815 --> 00:23:01,954 So what else is Intune? 641 00:23:02,494 --> 00:23:03,474 And I'm curious, 642 00:23:04,095 --> 00:23:06,974 like, you're a PowerShell MVP, but even talking 643 00:23:06,974 --> 00:23:08,640 to Scott when he met you, he's like, 644 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,240 hey Ben, you're gonna go talk to Harm. 645 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,880 He's PowerShell and Intune. And I'm like, PowerShell 646 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,539 and Intune. That's a that's a unique combination 647 00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:16,579 of 648 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,440 a little specialties. Like usually you're like PowerShell 649 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,440 and Windows. One or the other. Yeah. Right. 650 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,265 Or even like PowerShell and Microsoft three sixty 651 00:23:24,265 --> 00:23:26,285 five, but it's, like, PowerShell and Intune. 652 00:23:26,985 --> 00:23:28,424 So how did you kinda get into the 653 00:23:28,424 --> 00:23:29,945 Intune spot and stuff, and what do you 654 00:23:29,945 --> 00:23:32,664 do with Intune? For our customers, we do 655 00:23:32,664 --> 00:23:33,164 Intune 656 00:23:33,465 --> 00:23:36,125 things to for the Windows devices, obviously. 657 00:23:36,424 --> 00:23:37,404 Okay. And 658 00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:41,450 all the packaging detection script, platform scripts, 659 00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:44,309 remediation scripts, for example. Yeah. So have you 660 00:23:44,309 --> 00:23:46,309 written quite a few remediation scripts then too? 661 00:23:46,309 --> 00:23:48,150 Yep. Yep. Because we have to have, like, 662 00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:49,909 an e three license for it. So that's 663 00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:51,589 the downside of it. So it's not for 664 00:23:51,589 --> 00:23:54,545 every customer. Yeah. But remediation is so powerful. 665 00:23:54,684 --> 00:23:55,984 Yeah. Being able to 666 00:23:56,605 --> 00:23:59,105 hourly during the day or once a day 667 00:23:59,244 --> 00:24:01,404 check for it's like a desired state thing 668 00:24:01,404 --> 00:24:04,224 you can do if remediation's good. Yep. Yeah. 669 00:24:04,444 --> 00:24:06,065 What are definitely powerful 670 00:24:06,525 --> 00:24:08,099 do you ever get frustrated that they only 671 00:24:08,099 --> 00:24:09,080 run once a day? 672 00:24:09,460 --> 00:24:11,460 Yeah. But you you you can let them 673 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,779 rerun for every hour Okay. Based on group. 674 00:24:13,779 --> 00:24:15,619 So you assign a group and say every 675 00:24:15,619 --> 00:24:17,460 hour, every two hours, every three hours, once 676 00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:18,840 a day, once a week, once 677 00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:20,680 Once ever, run those remediation. 678 00:24:21,144 --> 00:24:22,664 What's a Is there a common one, like 679 00:24:22,664 --> 00:24:24,825 a certain remediation script that 680 00:24:25,304 --> 00:24:27,785 Maybe it's This is right independent. Like, there's 681 00:24:27,785 --> 00:24:29,625 a shortcoming in Intune, whether it's installing a 682 00:24:29,625 --> 00:24:32,105 certain software or a certain setting that isn't 683 00:24:32,105 --> 00:24:34,345 in Intune that you always wanna set. Is 684 00:24:34,345 --> 00:24:36,789 there a common remediation script that you've written 685 00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:38,390 for Intune that you use a lot that 686 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:41,589 Time zone settings for international customers is one 687 00:24:41,589 --> 00:24:43,509 of those. If you have, like, a customer 688 00:24:43,509 --> 00:24:45,289 who's in different regions Mhmm. 689 00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:48,470 How would you determine what time zone they're 690 00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:50,125 in and what the best time zone would 691 00:24:50,125 --> 00:24:52,125 be for them. But I automated that in 692 00:24:52,125 --> 00:24:52,625 remediation 693 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:55,805 script. So it detects what's my public IP 694 00:24:55,805 --> 00:24:57,805 address, what reason is it, what time zone 695 00:24:57,805 --> 00:24:59,565 should I have, and it just configures your 696 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:01,644 time zone. And if you move from one 697 00:25:01,644 --> 00:25:03,269 time zone to another, it will do that 698 00:25:03,349 --> 00:25:06,390 too. Got it. Wow. That's pretty cool. Yep. 699 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:08,390 Is that one available publicly? Yeah. It's on 700 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:10,070 my blog. That one's on your blog? Yeah. 701 00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:12,470 Okay. So it will definitely include, like, I'll 702 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:14,309 go get links to your blog too and 703 00:25:14,309 --> 00:25:15,910 include links to your blog. So if people 704 00:25:15,910 --> 00:25:18,605 wanna go see which scripts you've shared publicly, 705 00:25:19,065 --> 00:25:20,904 they can go see that. But also the 706 00:25:20,904 --> 00:25:21,724 Intune besides 707 00:25:22,345 --> 00:25:24,265 remediation scripts, so you just kind of fell 708 00:25:24,265 --> 00:25:25,945 in is that how you kinda get into 709 00:25:25,945 --> 00:25:28,505 Intune? Was you were writing scripts and Writing 710 00:25:28,505 --> 00:25:29,865 scripts for them. You needed to push them 711 00:25:29,865 --> 00:25:31,384 out somewhere? But also as a as a 712 00:25:31,384 --> 00:25:34,130 platform because I like controlling Windows devices and 713 00:25:34,130 --> 00:25:35,269 that well, it's the is 714 00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:39,009 the software for that, of course. And for 715 00:25:39,009 --> 00:25:40,789 the whole Intune packaging, 716 00:25:41,329 --> 00:25:44,450 deploying settings, it's more powerful using PowerShell scripts 717 00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:46,384 for it than the things that you sometimes 718 00:25:46,384 --> 00:25:49,765 see in the settings catalog. Yeah. Yep. So 719 00:25:50,065 --> 00:25:51,984 this is something I played with. I can't 720 00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,605 remember why I was doing this. 721 00:25:53,904 --> 00:25:55,585 One point in time, I'm curious if you 722 00:25:55,585 --> 00:25:58,384 ever tried this, I actually packaged up a 723 00:25:58,384 --> 00:26:00,644 PowerShell script Mhmm. As, 724 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,079 A Win 32 app? In in yeah. An 725 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:04,759 Intune a Win 32, I was trying to 726 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:06,200 think of. Yeah. I was like A Zoom 727 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,279 Win app. Essentially, it's an Intune Win app 728 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,200 to push it out that way versus a 729 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,079 remediation script. Yeah. That's that's that's the four 730 00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:13,579 man's 731 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,884 remediation script, I guess. If you don't have 732 00:26:15,884 --> 00:26:17,965 a free license, like, this is premium, you 733 00:26:17,965 --> 00:26:19,965 can use that. Yeah. It it it also 734 00:26:19,965 --> 00:26:21,904 works. You can let let it redetect 735 00:26:22,365 --> 00:26:24,445 the whole time and just reinstall the software 736 00:26:24,445 --> 00:26:26,684 or the script. Right. Yep. It does work. 737 00:26:26,684 --> 00:26:29,369 Yep. It's it was an interesting workaround for 738 00:26:29,369 --> 00:26:30,809 something I was trying, and I can't remember 739 00:26:30,809 --> 00:26:32,329 if it was a licensing thing or what. 740 00:26:32,329 --> 00:26:34,250 But that's one thing, like, those Win 32 741 00:26:34,250 --> 00:26:37,049 apps, it's they're not just go install an 742 00:26:37,049 --> 00:26:39,130 executable or an MSI, but, really, you can 743 00:26:39,130 --> 00:26:41,369 go in and put whatever files you want 744 00:26:41,369 --> 00:26:43,434 to in there Yeah. And say, to run 745 00:26:43,434 --> 00:26:44,015 the install 746 00:26:44,474 --> 00:26:47,115 for this particular Win 32 app, it's a 747 00:26:47,115 --> 00:26:49,434 dot p s one file or a dot 748 00:26:49,515 --> 00:26:51,434 or a batch file or all kinds of 749 00:26:51,434 --> 00:26:53,755 different things. If your detection is good, and 750 00:26:53,755 --> 00:26:55,775 it can be the same, like a remediation 751 00:26:55,835 --> 00:26:58,634 script, you can even use applicability scripts on 752 00:26:58,634 --> 00:27:00,869 it. Okay. Additional requirement scripts 753 00:27:01,250 --> 00:27:03,170 so that it will only fire to certain 754 00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:04,950 device in a certain state, etcetera. 755 00:27:06,049 --> 00:27:09,109 Yeah. There's a lot of powerful stuff that 756 00:27:09,650 --> 00:27:11,089 you can do again that I don't think 757 00:27:11,089 --> 00:27:13,170 is always readily available. But if you get 758 00:27:13,170 --> 00:27:14,144 in and try to 759 00:27:14,464 --> 00:27:16,305 hack around with some of the stuff, there's 760 00:27:16,305 --> 00:27:18,945 also encounter the situation that you actually need 761 00:27:18,945 --> 00:27:20,785 it for. But yeah. Yeah. So what else 762 00:27:20,785 --> 00:27:22,224 with Intune? Do you have any other favorite 763 00:27:22,224 --> 00:27:24,384 Intune features, things you like to do with 764 00:27:24,384 --> 00:27:24,884 Intune? 765 00:27:25,345 --> 00:27:26,940 Well, the things from Intune Suite, 766 00:27:27,659 --> 00:27:29,740 and I know that IntuneSuite is an additional 767 00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:30,879 license yet again, 768 00:27:31,339 --> 00:27:33,899 $10.12 dollars, I don't know, per user per 769 00:27:33,899 --> 00:27:34,879 month, I guess. 770 00:27:35,659 --> 00:27:37,980 It yeah. If I had one okay. If 771 00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:39,659 I had not one piece of complaint. But, 772 00:27:39,659 --> 00:27:41,355 yeah, all the stuff, it just keeps adding 773 00:27:41,355 --> 00:27:43,515 up. But in two suite yes. In engine 774 00:27:43,515 --> 00:27:46,654 suite, using the cloud PKI for for example, 775 00:27:47,914 --> 00:27:49,855 it's so much easier for kinda 776 00:27:50,154 --> 00:27:53,434 radius like Wi Fi authentication, for example. You 777 00:27:53,434 --> 00:27:55,134 can use it for that as well. Yep. 778 00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:57,390 Yeah. That is These nice add ons. Yep. 779 00:27:57,390 --> 00:27:59,169 I haven't started playing with that yet. 780 00:27:59,549 --> 00:28:00,929 Another thing from my list. 781 00:28:01,390 --> 00:28:03,150 Oh, Harmar, give me more stuff for my 782 00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:05,069 list. No. I actually have one of the 783 00:28:05,069 --> 00:28:06,829 contractors that does some work for me, he's 784 00:28:06,829 --> 00:28:08,589 started playing with that a little bit. Yeah. 785 00:28:08,589 --> 00:28:10,664 But it's like, why does Again, I feel 786 00:28:10,664 --> 00:28:12,924 like that's a fairly common function. The PKI 787 00:28:13,065 --> 00:28:14,585 being able to use that for Or the 788 00:28:14,585 --> 00:28:16,505 remote health. Like why do we have to 789 00:28:16,505 --> 00:28:17,005 pay 790 00:28:17,305 --> 00:28:19,545 an extra $10 a month for that one? 791 00:28:19,545 --> 00:28:21,535 Maybe remote health I can see because Yeah. 792 00:28:21,785 --> 00:28:23,859 That's if you're not doing that, you're going 793 00:28:23,859 --> 00:28:25,700 and paying another third party for some of 794 00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:28,740 the remote. Well, important. Privilege management, the kind 795 00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:32,200 of privilege identity management for starting certain executables. 796 00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:34,579 Yep. I can see a lot of value 797 00:28:34,579 --> 00:28:36,339 in that, but it's worth the top I 798 00:28:36,339 --> 00:28:38,225 don't know. Yeah. Or either. But there is 799 00:28:38,305 --> 00:28:40,164 have you played with the global secure access 800 00:28:40,384 --> 00:28:42,644 in Yeah. The Yep. The Yep. Well, technically, 801 00:28:42,865 --> 00:28:44,945 that's not even an Intune suite, is it? 802 00:28:44,945 --> 00:28:47,265 That's another add on. Yeah. That's that's an 803 00:28:47,265 --> 00:28:49,025 intro add on, I guess. Yes. That one 804 00:28:49,025 --> 00:28:50,545 is. That's right. That one's an intro add 805 00:28:50,545 --> 00:28:52,465 on, not Intune suite. Bundles and add ons 806 00:28:52,465 --> 00:28:54,970 and licenses. Every way. It's time for that 807 00:28:54,970 --> 00:28:56,730 p what do we or an e, what 808 00:28:56,730 --> 00:28:58,250 do we need next? An e seven An 809 00:28:58,250 --> 00:28:59,789 e seven or an e three 810 00:29:00,329 --> 00:29:02,190 Yeah. Entra license. Yes. 811 00:29:02,890 --> 00:29:05,690 Oh, very cool. Anything else? Let me talk 812 00:29:05,690 --> 00:29:06,190 PowerShell, 813 00:29:07,369 --> 00:29:07,869 MVP, 814 00:29:08,170 --> 00:29:08,670 Intune, 815 00:29:09,265 --> 00:29:11,585 anything you're anything that you're allowed to talk 816 00:29:11,585 --> 00:29:14,224 about that you're excited to To see this 817 00:29:14,224 --> 00:29:14,724 week 818 00:29:15,025 --> 00:29:17,184 or Not to see this week. We're not 819 00:29:17,184 --> 00:29:19,184 gonna talk about anything this week. I'm trying 820 00:29:19,184 --> 00:29:21,025 to think because it all jumbles up in 821 00:29:21,025 --> 00:29:23,044 our heads, right, of what's been announced. But 822 00:29:23,184 --> 00:29:26,609 anything this year that's public knowledge that you're 823 00:29:26,849 --> 00:29:29,190 Really looking forward to. Looking forward to, 824 00:29:29,569 --> 00:29:31,009 if it's not all jumbled up in your 825 00:29:31,009 --> 00:29:33,089 head. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm not sure if 826 00:29:33,089 --> 00:29:35,730 there's something that I'm really, really looking forward 827 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:37,970 to because I'm already using most of the 828 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:40,215 stuff that's being there. Got it. Anything with 829 00:29:40,215 --> 00:29:42,934 Copilot? Okay. Anything with AI or anything with 830 00:29:42,934 --> 00:29:45,035 AI that you'd like to see in this 831 00:29:45,255 --> 00:29:47,255 year as it relates to Intel? I'm actually 832 00:29:47,255 --> 00:29:49,974 one of the IT admins who doesn't use 833 00:29:49,974 --> 00:29:52,055 AI at all Okay. I guess. And that's 834 00:29:52,055 --> 00:29:54,269 becoming, like, rare, I guess. I can see 835 00:29:54,269 --> 00:29:56,750 it using being used for my documents, for 836 00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:58,509 the reporting stuff that I have to do, 837 00:29:58,509 --> 00:30:00,990 like, rewrite this whole chapter for me. Yeah. 838 00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:03,710 Yes. But using AI for a PowerShell script, 839 00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:05,630 for example, no. But that's not something that 840 00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:07,230 I use it for. So you don't do 841 00:30:07,309 --> 00:30:08,670 you don't even use any of the, like, 842 00:30:08,670 --> 00:30:09,914 the GitHub Copilot 843 00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:12,375 stuff yet or anything like that? For it. 844 00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:14,375 No. But I'm impressed. I will say I 845 00:30:14,375 --> 00:30:15,755 am impressed. I've 846 00:30:16,055 --> 00:30:18,535 I've started using it. It It's it's a 847 00:30:18,535 --> 00:30:20,775 good starter kit. Yeah. But I like to 848 00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:22,855 write my write and learn at the same 849 00:30:22,855 --> 00:30:26,039 time. Yep. Yeah. Awesome. Very cool. Well, anything 850 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,039 else if people wanna get a hold of 851 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,119 you, obviously, we'll put a link to your 852 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:32,779 blog in the show notes. Yep. Social media 853 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,960 On every platform, I think. Every platform? Yeah. 854 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,640 Alright. Well, I'll get all the links from 855 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,585 you for that. We'll put them all in 856 00:30:39,585 --> 00:30:41,105 the show notes so people wanna connect with 857 00:30:41,105 --> 00:30:43,664 you and reach out. Anything else you wanna 858 00:30:43,664 --> 00:30:44,404 tell everybody? 859 00:30:45,025 --> 00:30:47,744 Last wise words that I wise words you 860 00:30:47,744 --> 00:30:49,605 got, your your words of wisdom. 861 00:30:50,144 --> 00:30:52,964 Start scripting, not not yesterday, but just today. 862 00:30:53,025 --> 00:30:55,080 Yeah. Just Just start writing. Alright. Well, thanks, 863 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,000 Arman. Appreciate you sitting there. Thanks for having 864 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,380 me. Chad, not a problem. 865 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,759 Again, it's fun just sitting here meeting people, 866 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:03,039 being able to do podcast interviews. So Yep. 867 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,480 Enjoy the rest of the MVP summit. I'm 868 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,640 sure we'll see you around, and thanks again. 869 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,019 Appreciate the chat. Thanks. 870 00:31:11,194 --> 00:31:13,434 If you enjoyed the podcast, go leave us 871 00:31:13,434 --> 00:31:15,674 a five star rating in iTunes. It helps 872 00:31:15,674 --> 00:31:17,355 to get the word out so more IT 873 00:31:17,355 --> 00:31:19,514 pros can learn about Office three sixty five 874 00:31:19,514 --> 00:31:20,174 and Azure. 875 00:31:20,714 --> 00:31:22,394 If you have any questions you want us 876 00:31:22,394 --> 00:31:24,554 to address on the show or feedback about 877 00:31:24,554 --> 00:31:26,930 the show, feel free to reach out via 878 00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:29,109 our website, Twitter, or Facebook. 879 00:31:29,410 --> 00:31:31,250 Thanks again for listening, and have a great 880 00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:31,750 day.

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Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast

Ben Stegink, Scott Hoag

On the MS Cloud IT Pro Podcast, Scott and Ben discuss the Microsoft Cloud with a focus on IT Pros. They'll discuss the latest in Microsoft 365 and Office 365 News, Azure news and talk about their experiences with managing the Microsoft Cloud as well as interview industry experts on various cloud technology. They'll cover things such as SharePoint, Exchange, Microsoft Teams, PowerShell, Azure, Azure AD, Security, Networking, Storage, and the many other technologies and products that have made their way into the Microsoft 365 suite and Azure. To stay up-to-date on the latest in Microsoft Cloud news and gain some valuable knowledge as you deploy it within your own organization, make sure to tune in every week! Find out more at msclouditpropodcast.com.

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