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Welcome to episode 416
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of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro podcast recorded
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live on 11/20/2025.
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This is a show about Microsoft three sixty
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five and Azure from the perspective of IT
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pros and end users, where we discuss a
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topic or recent news and how it relates
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to you. In this episode, I'm still live
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from Microsoft Ignite as I sit down with
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Henrik, a fellow Microsoft MVP in security,
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to record this episode. As we we enjoy
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some sun in San Francisco, we spent some
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time talking about Microsoft Sentinel,
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Data Lake with Microsoft Sentinel, and some of
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the announcements from Ignite, as well as some
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of our experiences at the conference and things
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that we've enjoyed about being live in person
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at Ignite.
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So here we are sitting at Ignite, recording
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another show of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro
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podcast
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without Scott because
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Scott has bailed on me this year. We've
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got carnival music going on the background, sitting
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on the sun in the streets of San
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Francisco. But since Scott wasn't here, I had
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Henrik join me. So he's a
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senior cloud specialist, a fellow security MVP.
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Well, we met how long have we known
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each other? Eight couple years now? Yeah. A
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couple of years. Yeah. Yeah. Because we both
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did you become an MVP about the same
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time I did? Yeah. Yeah. We kinda came
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MVPs together. You started as security. I started
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as Microsoft March, and then I joined the
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dark side, the good side. I don't know.
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Security support. The good side. The good side.
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Yeah. Do you wanna give a little bit
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of introduction, Henrik, just about you, who you
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are, where you work, where you
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live, how much you love Samsung's system.
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Yeah. I'll just start with introducing myself. My
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name is Henrik Wysig
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from Denmark, and I work at a bank
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in the financial sector. That's my doing.
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And my area
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is security because I'm a security MVP. Yeah.
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I work with the Sentinel and Defender, the
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whole Defender suite. So, yeah, basically, I love
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everything security. Alright. I mean, bank security is
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kind of important at banks, I think. Apparently,
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something about people's money. Yeah. They kinda like
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it to be safe and secure
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and not allowed to get in. And you
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live in Denmark. I mean, how much better
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is that? You live in the same country
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as Legoland. Yes. And fun fact is I
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actually
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I only live, like, the twenty minutes drive
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from LEGOLAND and LEGO headquarters. Okay. That's why
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I have a lot of LEGO at home.
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See, I keep forgetting this. One of these
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years, Hendrik, I have you on record now.
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You're on the podcast. I would like a
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couple of those LEGO sets, like the headquarters
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and the tree that you can only get
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at LEGO headquarters. Yes.
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Any way you can arrange that? I won't
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put you on the spot on the podcast.
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Yeah. You'll have to show send me a
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picture of that. Send you a picture of
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the sets that I want? Yeah. Alright. I
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heard there's, like, those two sets that you
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can only buy at LEGO headquarters
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in Denmark. There is there is a collectible.
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Also, if you go on a special trip
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at the LEGO at LEGO House, which is
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Uh-huh. Yeah. Which is really cool. But you
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have to pay a lot of money to
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get on those tours, but you get a
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golden brick almost. Maybe we need to do
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Ignite Denmark. Yes.
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Yes. It will probably be better than San
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Francisco, but I don't know. Maybe. Yeah. We
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should probably be nice to San Francisco.
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Oh, well. Anyways, we should we talk about
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security instead of Legos in San Francisco and
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Denmark?
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So senior cloud specialist, you do a lot
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with security. You probably do more with security
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than I do because I tend to spin
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a whole bunch of stuff, but there have
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been some interesting
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changes with Sentinel in the last,
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what, probably six months or so. There was
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announcements around Sentinel coming into Defender where now
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it's really gonna be Defender's gonna be the
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place to get to Sentinel. Yes. But, also,
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if you connect Sentinel to Defender, you can
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do things with data lake now. Yes. So
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do you wanna talk a little bit? Like,
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we were talking about some of the advantages
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there. I know I think Scott and I
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mentioned it, but didn't go into a lot
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of details. And you were sharing some details
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even on some of the advantages, even some
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of the reasons. It makes a lot of
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sense in the EU. So in the EU,
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because of regulation,
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and we're driven by regulation, apparently.
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There are two new regulations.
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One is called NIST two, and the other
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is called DORA. And it applies actually
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to all critical infrastructure businesses. It's gonna hit
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almost everyone in the EU with logging. Okay.
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One of the loggings,
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logging requirements are that you need to save
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all your data or logs, audit logs, and
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security logs, and operation logs also for, like,
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thirteen months. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's a lot.
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Right? Yeah. So and this is just, like,
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everything. It doesn't matter what it is. It's
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just Yes. If something happens and it's logged
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Yes. What if you don't log it? Then
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we go far in. Too. Yeah. Yeah. So
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you have to log everything, and then you
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have to keep all of those for thirteen
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months. Yes. It's like GDPR. Okay. So it
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follows that.
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that has meant that especially us in the
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finance sector in Denmark have been looking into,
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oh, we need to save it for thirteen
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months now. Where to put it? Because
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yanking it up in log analytics workspace for
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thirteen months, that's expensive.
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to share how big your bank is, but
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I can imagine with the bank and the
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amount of data, like, it's not an insignificant
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amount of logs that you have. This is
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probably
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is it gigabytes or terabytes of logs? It's
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a lot of gigabytes. And it's not
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how should I explain my workplace? I work
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at a company called Bank Data,
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and it's it's owned by different banks in
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Denmark, actually. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's owned
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by seven different banks,
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and, we adjust the IT development department. So
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we do the finance banking apps. Got it.
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There's a lot of data, and they all
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want different things.
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go make the button red. No. We want
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it blue. Yes. And then you have to
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log that you changed the button from red
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to blue? Change management.
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That's it's a finance sector, so we have
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to it's strictly regulated.
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So it's not it's not like in consultant
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where you just go in, place guns placing,
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and Yep. I can fix that for you,
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my friend. So how does data lake so
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you talked about, like, log analytics is super
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expensive
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when you are it it starts adding up.
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Now you can do it data lake. That
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helps with the pricing then. Yeah. A lot
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because
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we actually we are streaming logs from AWS.
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Okay. And that's a lot of logs
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you get from AWS also. And, specifically,
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what has helped us in our use case
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is that we don't have to pick and
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choose anymore with,
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do we lock this or not? It's a
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requirement. So we have we have the opportunity
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to log it every everything now. And the
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ones that we throw directly into data lake
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at the moment, the older network logs, which
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are the most noisy logs that you can
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almost ever find.
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So that has saved a lot of money
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for us at least. Got it. So how
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did you how do you set that up?
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Because, like, we were talking about setting a
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little log analytics, which is Azure. Yeah. You
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know, while you're networking in AWS,
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is that through,
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like, Sentinel connectors then that are available in
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the hub or Yeah. How do you architect,
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like okay. All of our networks in AWS,
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we're gonna save it on Sentinel Yes. In
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data lake. Yes.
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So yeah. Because we actually stream it over
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from from the AWS. We have a connector.
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a Amazon s three service in Okay. Content
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hub in the Sentinel, which we enabled. And
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that hooks into all the
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guard duty logs and cloud trail logs and
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VPC flow logs. And there's one more. I
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forgot its name. And that's so we have
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already the design before we went into AWS,
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we know that we were gonna move it
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over to Sentinel Okay. For the c m,
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one Centimeters to rule them all. Yep.
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guard in the early moments because there were
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some spikes in the traffic with the network
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logs, and it cost us a lot of
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money. And those spike was only, like, for
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a couple of hours, one day or two
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days, and it cost us a lot of
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money. That was before we enabled data lake,
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and that's what actually made us enable data
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lake to get it cheaper and then move
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the network logs directly into the data lake
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now. So we are saving money. Got it.
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So how does that work with data lake?
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Because I've started doing this. I've enabled data
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lake in mind, and it looks like
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by default, when you enable data lake for
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Sentinel,
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there's only certain tables from log analytics
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that go into data lake. Is that something
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that you can customize
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and tweak? Or have you
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We have only, we have only looked at
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those that cost us most money.
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So, yeah, it's a we have, like, I
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don't know, 290
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tables or something like that. Okay. And we
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did the quick one. Show us the most
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top 20 expensive tables, and then we did
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it from there. And all of those twenties,
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we could convert them into data lakes, but
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some don't actually make sense because you don't
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wanna move
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device events from MDE over to data lake
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because that correlates with all the other stuff
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on the attack vector. So you can't move
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that from away from log analytics, actually. Got
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it. So there are certain tables that like
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those device tables that, at least at this
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point in time,
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just have to stay in log analytics. There's
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no option. So you end up with a
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mix of tables and some in data lakes,
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some in log analytics.
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had to put it into data lake, then
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you had to make KQL queries instead of
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analytic rules.
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And it's a bit slow, and the SOC
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doesn't like that.
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The sock, like, send their data right away?
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Yes. Apparently. Okay.
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But, I mean, they are doing something that
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most of the logs for from the defender
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stays in the in the new tables for
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thirty days. Okay. So they have something to
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look into. And, I mean, who whoever comes
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back looking at logs at some point that
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needs them to go back a year, they're
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looking for something specific. Right? Right. So I
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haven't looked at this yet with the data
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lake. Can you set it then? So, like,
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logs from certain tables will go into data
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lake after a period of time? So, like
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you said, thirty days of device in log
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analytics and then thirty one days out to
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the thirteen months go to data lake? Yes.
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That's actually how we do it. In our
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case, we do ninety days. Okay. So we
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do ninety days log analytics tiering and then
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the rest in the data lake after that.
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Got it. For the other ones, we do
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directly to data lake. Okay. Network logs. Okay.
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And then you mentioned the analytics rules too.
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Again, like, I knew this, and I've kinda
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time with you. You talked about, like, the
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analytics rules and writing the queries. Does that
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differ then based on where the data is
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and how you write those queries? Or even
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if you wanna correlate data across different tables
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where you have some in log analytics and
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some in data lake, do you have to
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get a little more creative in how you
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write those? Yes. You have. So if we
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do, normally, all the Hondas do within KQL
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in the analytics, rule and then about something.
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And it's not that very seldom that we
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actually look back more than three months. That's
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why we landed on the magic ninety days.
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Got it. So so because it's not necessary,
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but if you have analytic queries for certain
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tables, then you have to convert them over
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because you can't cross over the search. So
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you have to you have to make another
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KQL job that runs to through the data
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lake. Okay. Yeah. Where if it's older than
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three months. Sorry. Ninety days. Okay. Ninety days,
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three months. They're about the same. Right? Yeah.
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Most months, they're close. Yeah.
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So can you write a query that because
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you can, like, look up. Like, you wanna
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look up log information for a device. And
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if you have those tables in two different
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sources,
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can you write a query? Yeah. So it
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will cross over. No. Because it there are
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two different things. Analytics ones will only do
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the ninety days. Yep. And then you have
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to switch over to the other ones. Got
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it. Yeah. For,
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yeah, but we haven't had the use case
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yet for that. Okay. Where you have to
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cross over, like, correlate network logs with device
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logs within ninety days when they're in two
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different sources?
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We haven't had that issue yet. Okay.
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Knock on wood. Let me know when that
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happens? Yeah. For
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you. It's a nice case because we actually
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had one that does advanced hunting. He asked
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about it. So if I'm doing this and
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this, but this table for the network logs
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is down here. As far as I said,
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we keep the devices because he's writing on
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the devices
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with the MDE data.
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Yeah. So we haven't had the use case
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for that because
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one thing is Azure logs and VPC flow
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logs from AWS firewalls.
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That's a whole another ballgame versus the MDE
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data that come from Got it. Laptops. Yep.
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So and that's where the interesting stuff is.
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Got it. That makes sense.
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There was something else I was gonna ask
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and now I can't remember what it was
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around some of that. Must be the carnival
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music. Yeah. It's the carnival music in the
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background that people walking by. And the lack
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of sleep over the last few days. I'm
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getting tired.
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Yeah. So so you did say speed. That's
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one thing too that if you're querying data
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like that, your queries do is it, like,
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noticeably
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slower, or is it just, like, maybe it's
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a few seconds slower?
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What have you seen from a speed perspective
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when you're querying it? It was only, like,
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a couple of minutes. Okay. But and we
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had to build the query specifically. I wanna
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see it that I was searching for something
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in here and go pick those days only
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in this time span. So we were pretty
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precise because it costs money to query the
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data lake. So you gotta kind of have
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to optimize your
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your statements. Your queries. Yeah. Like, so is
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that something different with is it more, like,
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it's cheaper to store data in the data
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lake, but more expensive to query it? Yes.
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Precisely. That's but I that's with all the
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products actually today. So
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but, yes,
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that's one of the four pits. So you
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don't wanna have a guy that that does
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a search in the data lake for five
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years back or something like that. Okay. If
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you saw data for five years back. Right?
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Sort of that long. That's gonna cost a
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lot of money. Okay. Just firing the query
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off, and that's why we also said it
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would be nice before doing the statements or
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the k 12 queries.
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What is the approximate cost if I throw
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this query
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Right. Yeah. Turn it on. So is it
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with the data lake queries and the cost,
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is it based on how much data gets
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returned from the query, or is it based
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on how many tables The lookup of the
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data. Okay. It's the lookup of how much
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data it has to go through. Got it.
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As as far as I know, but it's
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still new to us. I mean, it's like
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two months ago. Right. It hasn't been out
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very long. So people are still trying to
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figure it out. It'll be interesting to see
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even how Microsoft
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evolves it because I can imagine
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the scenario is gonna arise where someone has
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to query data in both data sources and
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how hopefully, they come up with a way
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to maybe make that a little bit more
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seamless
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as time goes on. Yeah. It's gonna
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as a true Microsoft employee would say, it's
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a journey we are on.
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And we have no idea how long this
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journey is gonna take us. But we have
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never been closer.
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Every day it's just like your birthday. Right?
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Every day, you get one day closer to
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your birthday. Yeah. Yay. Every day, we get
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one day closer to the destination on this
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journey with Microsoft. Yeah.
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So other things that kinda tie in the
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Sentinel,
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this
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security ecosystem is and there were some announcements
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around Security Copilot. Have you started playing with
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Security Copilot yet with your Sentinel data and
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looking at that? No. We have not because
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it had the cost have been an issue
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for us from day one. Right?
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Because of the ACU cost. The c level
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said no because it's too expensive. And, I
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mean, what's the value if we look at
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it? I mean Right. Yeah. And then where
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there were all those hacks that you could
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spin up the ACUs, then shut them down,
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spin them up next day, and stuff like
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that. But we didn't bother in our enterprise
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because it didn't give that value. But now,
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with the new e five, yes,
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it's gonna be exciting. It is. And that
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was one of the announcements. So have you
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started playing with it yet? Have you guys
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well, though you probably haven't gotten it yet,
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you didn't have security copilot.
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No. Not yet. Not yet. But we have
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you five. But you have you five, so
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you're ready. This was and this was one
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of those announcements. And
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Scott and I talked about it a little
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bit on the last podcast,
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but we only had the book of news
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to go by. Yeah. Now Microsoft has announced
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it. There's blog posts out there about it
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that
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e fives are going to get a certain
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level of copilot.
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Have you started looking at that? How many
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details do you have around that you wanna
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share? We are definitely gonna use it for
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the intra ID one and the conditional access
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one. The optimization Yeah. The optimization.
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Yeah. That's the one we probably the most
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most important one,
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and then we'll look into the others. I
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mean, we can probably
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burn through those SCUs. Through all SCUs. Yeah.
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Because it's also nice because even though it's
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in the license now, it's not that much
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anyways.
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Right. And I looked at
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so have you looked at the cost and
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how they're doing all this with the SCUs
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and then Yes. I looked into it, and
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I think it's gonna be a journey Yeah.
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As they say. More journeys. More journeys. Lots
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of journeys we are on. It's a step
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in the right direction, I would say. Because
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if you wanna get people to use Security
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Copilot, this is the right step to do
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because nobody in their mind would do it.
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Right. And let's look at it going. And
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I started looking at the pricing, and it's,
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to your point, it's a journey. It's gonna
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be interesting to see how this pricing works
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out because you essentially
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get Microsoft gave an example
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of for every it was a thousand
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e five licenses,
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you would get 400
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SCUs.
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Yeah. Which is the security compute units. Yes.
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But I had to shift it in my
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mind because at first it was like, oh,
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currently it's like $4 per hour per SCU,
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and this is a 400
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SCUs
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per
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month.
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So it's like it was a per hour
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pricing.
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Now it's changing to, like, a quota per
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month, and they said there's also no minimum.
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So if you have like one e five
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you get point four
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Yeah. SCUs per month. I don't know how
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that's gonna work out. But it's not
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and at first I was super excited. I'm
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like, oh I get two SCUs. And in
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my head I was still thinking per hour
528
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not per month. Yeah. Because a thousand users,
529
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400 SCUs a month
530
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only gives you, like you divide that by
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thirty days,
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you're down to
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what, like it's just over, it's like a
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120
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it no, a hundred and twenty thirty ish.
536
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Yeah. 130 ish SCUs
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per day Are gonna be burned through. Break
538
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it down by hour, and you're like, well,
539
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wait a minute. Now I'm down to, like,
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1.5
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or two SCUs per hour Yeah. For a
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thousand users?
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I hope we'll be able to make that
544
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the Intune guys get so much and the
545
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InfID guys get so much, and the other
546
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security guys get the so like you you
547
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could do today, right, if you bought the
548
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norm the regular old SCUs.
549
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Yeah. So I'm curious to see how that
550
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works because then they said, well, if you
551
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go over, you buy SCUs.
552
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Yeah. And then we are right back at
553
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square one. Right. Well, now it's an hourly,
554
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but I'm like, well, how do you do
555
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it if you're doing a quota of SCUs
556
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per month
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and now you need SCUs, do you start
558
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buying just individual
559
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SCUs now per month?
560
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Or once you run out, do you have
561
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to start paying
562
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per hour for the rest of the month?
563
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Yes. Like and that's where I think it's
564
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gonna be a journey of the documentation I
565
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looked at wasn't super clear
566
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in my mind on how the $6 per
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SCU
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per hour
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or if it's just $6 per SCU now
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in the quota per month kinda Yeah. Very
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and I didn't know if you looked at
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any of that or started trying to figure
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that out because you have any vibes and
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you wanna go home and use your SCU.
575
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Yes. I'm looking forward. Probably when I get
576
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home, somebody have probably started up paying with
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it because it's for free now. Yeah. Otherwise
578
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so this was the other part of what
579
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I saw is if you were paying for
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Security Copilot now, you
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would get transitioned right away to this new
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pricing model. And if you aren't paying for
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Security Copilot,
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you
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have to wait. So you might not be
586
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able to play with the right one again.
587
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But we can wait because, I mean, let's
588
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face it. The need hasn't been there. Yeah.
589
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So are there any other yeah. Or security.
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Any other security announcements from Ignite that you
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were excited about other than you can start
592
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playing with security Copilot now? That would be
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the agents.
594
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The a there were a bunch of like,
595
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there's a bunch the security Copilot agents. Yes.
596
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A bunch of them. I haven't actually looked
597
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into them. Okay. I can't remember their names.
598
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I remember a few only because I've seen
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them already. Like, there were some agents that
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already existed. The conditional access optimization agent,
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the phishing remediation agent. Yeah. That one. That's
602
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also a really nice one. Yeah. Those but
603
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I think there were, like Five or six
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months? Well, there were five or six before.
605
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I think there's at least,
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I think there's, like, another six to 10
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agents Ugh. That came out now. So I
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again, if there were any of those that
609
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you were excited about that you've looked at.
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I haven't.
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I can almost imagine now it's gonna be
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governance towards agents.
613
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Well, there is. We got agent three sixty
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five now for configuring our agents. Right?
615
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I saw so here's another one. I'm curious
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if you think this one will help.
617
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I saw some talk too about, like, a
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DLP agent around DLP remediations
619
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Yeah. Where an agent now and I can't
620
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remember if it's here or if it's coming.
621
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We're, like, you send an email, and
622
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instead of maybe using some of the regular
623
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expressions and detection there for sensitive information,
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starting to leverage an AI agent to detect,
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was this a sensitive email? And then if
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it is,
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instead of sending it to the sock right
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away, sending it back to the end user,
629
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like, maybe it's a Teams message or something.
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Did you mean to send this email? Did
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you realize there was sensitive information in
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it? Almost to let the end user self
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remediate.
634
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And if it turns out that, no. I
635
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didn't send this email, then it goes to
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the Slack team or if it's, yeah, I
637
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sent this email. No. I didn't realize there
638
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was sensitive information in it. We need to
639
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open an incident, then it goes to the
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SOC team. So trying to eliminate some of
641
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that noise that goes to the SOC team.
642
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That's actually really smart. Right? Yeah. I thought
643
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the same thing. I was like, oh, I
644
00:23:53,275 --> 00:23:55,515
like the work. On the SEO cost, of
645
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course. Depending on the SEO cost. But it's
646
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free now with an e five.
647
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Yes. Whoever comes first that day.
648
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Yeah. The fir the first two or three
649
00:24:06,990 --> 00:24:09,710
people get the agent for Yeah. DLP, and
650
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then after that, it's all over. Yeah.
651
00:24:12,085 --> 00:24:13,125
I know. I had to keep an eye
652
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on time. We've been doing some labs. You
653
00:24:15,125 --> 00:24:17,605
and I both been practicing labs this week.
654
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Those have been fun. Any other highlights from
655
00:24:19,765 --> 00:24:20,265
Ignite?
656
00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:22,965
Okay. I know how you feel about San
657
00:24:22,965 --> 00:24:23,465
Francisco.
658
00:24:24,019 --> 00:24:25,720
We don't need to talk about San Francisco.
659
00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:27,700
We're not talking we're not gonna make fun
660
00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,139
of San Francisco. We can't talk about San
661
00:24:29,139 --> 00:24:31,079
Francisco. Actually, my experiences
662
00:24:31,460 --> 00:24:33,859
has been nice, but being a proctor and
663
00:24:33,859 --> 00:24:36,759
having the expert badge with the special inferences
664
00:24:36,980 --> 00:24:39,460
helps a lot. It does. I must admit
665
00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:42,154
that seeing these people rock walking through metal
666
00:24:42,154 --> 00:24:42,654
detectors
667
00:24:42,955 --> 00:24:45,835
constantly, it's a pain. Right? It is. I
668
00:24:45,835 --> 00:24:47,914
heard it from and getting the back search
669
00:24:47,914 --> 00:24:48,654
each time,
670
00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:52,075
it's it's really frustrating for some. I heard
671
00:24:52,075 --> 00:24:53,835
it from all the colleagues I'm with and
672
00:24:53,835 --> 00:24:56,609
the other fellow Danes. Okay. They really hate
673
00:24:56,609 --> 00:24:58,769
it going from building to building building to
674
00:24:58,769 --> 00:25:01,570
building. Yeah. And the the venue is so
675
00:25:01,570 --> 00:25:03,650
fast spread. Right? If you have sessions down
676
00:25:03,650 --> 00:25:04,150
at
677
00:25:04,849 --> 00:25:05,349
Marquis
678
00:25:05,809 --> 00:25:06,309
Yeah.
679
00:25:06,930 --> 00:25:08,944
It's a walk. I walked over there this
680
00:25:08,944 --> 00:25:11,025
morning. Yeah. It's fifteen minutes or something before
681
00:25:11,025 --> 00:25:13,505
you actually reach the room. Uh-huh. And then
682
00:25:13,505 --> 00:25:15,825
you have to go back into, the West
683
00:25:15,825 --> 00:25:18,464
Moscone Center. Yeah. You you use you use
684
00:25:18,464 --> 00:25:20,545
a lot of time walking. You do. And
685
00:25:20,545 --> 00:25:22,850
it does feel I'm glad I'm here. I
686
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:25,090
still love being at Ignite. It's bigger than
687
00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:27,350
last year. Yep. Definitely. But it feels
688
00:25:27,970 --> 00:25:30,130
smaller to me because of how spread out
689
00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:32,930
everything is. Like, I miss everything being when
690
00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:35,585
it was closer together, there were definitely it
691
00:25:35,585 --> 00:25:37,424
was harder in some respects, it was harder
692
00:25:37,424 --> 00:25:38,944
to get around because everybody was shoulder to
693
00:25:38,944 --> 00:25:41,184
shoulder. Yeah. But I felt like you saw
694
00:25:41,184 --> 00:25:41,924
more people.
695
00:25:42,464 --> 00:25:43,204
You did.
696
00:25:43,825 --> 00:25:45,744
Yeah. I it's all but I like the
697
00:25:45,744 --> 00:25:47,984
expo, the hub area and the expo in
698
00:25:47,984 --> 00:25:50,569
the Moscone's in the South. It's pretty nice.
699
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:53,589
What? Any highlights? Any vendors you've seen or
700
00:25:53,589 --> 00:25:55,589
any highlights from the hub? People you've run
701
00:25:55,589 --> 00:25:56,089
into?
702
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:58,569
I like the MVP wall, the new MVP
703
00:25:58,630 --> 00:26:01,909
wall. Yes. It's curvy. Right? It's curvy. And
704
00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:04,244
a lot of names. A lot of names.
705
00:26:04,404 --> 00:26:05,684
Did you get your picture by the MVP?
706
00:26:05,684 --> 00:26:07,684
Yes. I did. Of course. Hey. That's what
707
00:26:07,765 --> 00:26:10,085
Were you on the MVP? So the wall's
708
00:26:10,085 --> 00:26:12,404
curvy. Right? Yeah. But if you're on one
709
00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:14,424
end of it, you can't see the MVP
710
00:26:14,484 --> 00:26:17,470
logo and your name because it's curved. Thank
711
00:26:17,470 --> 00:26:18,369
you for that.
712
00:26:19,230 --> 00:26:20,990
I am down in the corner. You're down
713
00:26:20,990 --> 00:26:22,829
in the corner? Yeah. Let's go down. The
714
00:26:22,990 --> 00:26:24,349
okay. So you're in front so you can
715
00:26:24,349 --> 00:26:26,109
see the MVP logo when you're by your
716
00:26:26,109 --> 00:26:28,429
name? Nope. Oh, you're down to, like, around
717
00:26:28,429 --> 00:26:29,950
the corner. Yes. I'm around the corner. Oh,
718
00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:32,715
I'm sorry. Yeah. No. I can actually oh.
719
00:26:32,715 --> 00:26:34,875
And now that I'm thinking about it, maybe
720
00:26:34,875 --> 00:26:36,555
I just took it from the wrong side,
721
00:26:36,555 --> 00:26:37,615
the picture. Yeah.
722
00:26:38,715 --> 00:26:40,154
Oh, man. I need to go ahead and
723
00:26:40,154 --> 00:26:41,035
check. We'll go back and do that. Yeah.
724
00:26:41,035 --> 00:26:42,795
We'll go back. Any other highlights from Ignite?
725
00:26:42,795 --> 00:26:45,089
Like, what have you despite some of the
726
00:26:45,089 --> 00:26:47,250
differences with it being out here, what have
727
00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:49,029
you enjoyed from being out here? Highlights?
728
00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:52,769
Like social or really Ignite stuff? Anything. I
729
00:26:52,769 --> 00:26:54,450
like the city. I like the tourist stuff.
730
00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:56,529
It's my first time in San Francisco. I
731
00:26:56,529 --> 00:26:57,015
like it.
732
00:26:58,055 --> 00:27:00,055
Certain areas you have to avoid, of course.
733
00:27:00,055 --> 00:27:02,375
Yeah. But I'm guessing that's normal probably in
734
00:27:02,375 --> 00:27:04,454
each city. And it's normal. I would say
735
00:27:04,454 --> 00:27:06,695
in Jacksonville, it's normal. Like, there's areas of
736
00:27:06,695 --> 00:27:07,195
Jacksonville.
737
00:27:07,575 --> 00:27:10,214
There's areas it's been in Orlando before. There's
738
00:27:10,214 --> 00:27:11,835
areas of Orlando you should avoid.
739
00:27:12,150 --> 00:27:14,630
Chicago, it's been in there are absolutely areas
740
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:16,789
I grew up close to Chicago. There's absolutely
741
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:18,789
areas of Chicago you just do not go
742
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:21,269
into. I've had friends that were escorted by
743
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:21,769
police
744
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:23,450
out of areas of Chicago
745
00:27:24,434 --> 00:27:26,554
because it was so dangerous. But Yeah. Okay.
746
00:27:26,755 --> 00:27:29,154
Anyways, that's beside the point. You you've enjoyed
747
00:27:29,154 --> 00:27:31,075
some of the tourists walking up. So did
748
00:27:31,075 --> 00:27:32,694
you get out to, like, Pier 39?
749
00:27:32,755 --> 00:27:34,534
Yeah. I've I've been I've been all over.
750
00:27:35,394 --> 00:27:37,575
Alright. What about from Ignite? Any highlights
751
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:39,679
from the conference?
752
00:27:40,299 --> 00:27:42,539
I actually liked the keynote. It was fun.
753
00:27:42,539 --> 00:27:43,759
Was it? Yeah.
754
00:27:44,299 --> 00:27:46,140
I mean, it was a bit high level.
755
00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:48,700
Some it wasn't technical and that Yeah. Keynotes
756
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:50,480
never are. No. So
757
00:27:50,804 --> 00:27:53,204
I liked it on a marketing level. Alright.
758
00:27:53,204 --> 00:27:54,664
Have you had fun with the labs?
759
00:27:55,044 --> 00:27:57,625
Oh, yeah. Well, you know how it went.
760
00:27:57,845 --> 00:27:59,845
I had fun today. You have fun today
761
00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:02,404
with the labs. Today? The labs actually worked
762
00:28:02,404 --> 00:28:04,424
today. Okay. Yeah. We had issues
763
00:28:04,859 --> 00:28:07,019
because getting back from the keynote because it
764
00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:10,380
was thirty minute drive away. Yep. So people
765
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:12,640
getting back in time for the first laps
766
00:28:12,859 --> 00:28:15,019
when the conference started, really started after the
767
00:28:15,019 --> 00:28:17,900
keynote. They didn't because there were traffic jams
768
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:19,440
and Okay. People were late.
769
00:28:19,819 --> 00:28:22,515
And what you what even what's more worse
770
00:28:22,515 --> 00:28:25,474
is that the Cloudflare incident happened that day.
771
00:28:25,474 --> 00:28:28,275
Yes. So that meant all the labs were
772
00:28:28,275 --> 00:28:30,755
in hosted in GitHub, and the repos were
773
00:28:30,755 --> 00:28:33,794
down, couldn't be accessed. So our instructions for
774
00:28:33,794 --> 00:28:35,154
our labs were Got
775
00:28:35,929 --> 00:28:37,929
it's funny because it went down and everybody's
776
00:28:37,929 --> 00:28:40,009
like, but GitHub's a Microsoft company. Why are
777
00:28:40,009 --> 00:28:42,829
these in CloudFlare and not, like, Azure? Yeah.
778
00:28:42,970 --> 00:28:44,890
Yeah. The front door. It is what it
779
00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:46,410
is. It is. I would say like, I
780
00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:47,929
proctored labs too, and I would say that's
781
00:28:47,929 --> 00:28:49,769
been one of the highlights. And even talking
782
00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:50,250
to people
783
00:28:50,765 --> 00:28:52,125
and we've talked about it before, I think,
784
00:28:52,125 --> 00:28:54,205
in the podcast, for Ignite has a little
785
00:28:54,205 --> 00:28:55,725
bit more of a sales feel and less
786
00:28:55,725 --> 00:28:57,884
of a technical feel. But I think the
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labs,
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I would say, are a well kept secret,
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but the labs I've been in have been,
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like, jam packed with people. Yeah. Is if
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you're gonna come to a future Ignite, because
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this is gonna come out after Ignite's been
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said and done this year, and you want
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more technical
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content, I would actually recommend going and doing
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the labs for a couple of reasons. One,
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yeah, they're click, like, it's the click click.
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Right? You follow the instructions, click through,
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but you do get to get your hands
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on
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more technical aspects
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than maybe you would learn about if you
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went to a session. Yeah. And the other
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thing I would say is I don't know
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about your lab. My labs, it's the product
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group for the features. I've been doing identity
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governance.
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So I had, like, the product manager for
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PIM and one of the product managers for
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can't remember if it was for Entra, but
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it was different product managers for the products
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involved in ID governance. So if you had
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questions about the products,
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like, it was a great way after the
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labs or even during the labs Yeah. To
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be able to talk to the people
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that are in charge of these different features.
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Yes. Was that your experience too in your
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Yes. Lab? It was. Because,
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our guys also were close to MDE team.
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Okay. So, yeah, it was defender related, but
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mostly MDO and MDE
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stuff were was were in our labs.
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But, yeah,
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it was a pleasure seeing it because our
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laps were also full and the capacity was
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around 115
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as I recall in our room. Yeah. And,
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I'm going back in just a second when
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we are done for the last. That's gonna
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be the fourth of the laps. Right?
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And it's also sold out. So
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people really like the laps, but sometimes
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they go down and they then people leave.
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Yeah. It walkouts
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rarely, but it happened again
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yesterday because
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our tenant provisioning didn't work. So people were
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just yeah. We're gonna go with lessons learned,
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and then if you're listening to this now,
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next year will be better because they've learned
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some less I think they've learned some lessons
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this year. And I would say even as
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the week's gone on, they've learned some lessons
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about it's I mean, it's not easy. Capacity
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in here is a 115,
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but there's I don't know how many labs.
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There's probably 10 or 15 labs going on
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simultaneously.
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Yep. Precisely.
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That's like 1,500
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tenants getting provisioned
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to these labs at the same time. It's
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not
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a insignificant
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feat to do something like that. And it's
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a fully live tenant, right, in our labs?
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So it's a 115
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live tenants
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spinning up. Yeah. Yeah. It's complicated.
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Yeah. For sure. Awesome. Well, thanks, Hendrik. Thanks
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for joining me. I know you have a
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lab to get to. Yes. Thanks. I might
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go down to the hub and try to
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find more Swag. Yeah. See what I can
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come up with. Yeah.
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Glad that we've talked about doing this for
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A long time. A long time. We yeah.
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At MVP Summit or other Ignites, and it
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just it hasn't worked out. You got sick
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once on me. Yeah. But glad we could
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sit down and do it here at Ignite.
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And
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Yeah. Same to you. It was nice doing
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it. Alright. Well, thanks. Yeah. Glad you enjoyed
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it. Hope you enjoy your lab and the
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rest of Ignite. And Yes. I hope you
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get some swag. Thanks. And hopefully, we'll catch
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up again soon. Yeah. Bye. Bye
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