Episode Four Part 1

September 22, 2025

Episode Transcript

Jacob Bain, a Marine veteran and founder of Bain Blends, explains how creating an herbal salve for his wife’s eczema during COVID grew into a family-run line of herbally infused beard oils and grooming products.

He discusses product development, the unique heat-infusion process, ingredient choices, scent creation, veteran-owned values, and practical benefits like eczema relief, improved beard health, and long-lasting formulations.

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WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:35.760 Music. 00:00:35.606 --> 00:00:38.586 Welcome to Bourbon Beards and Belvedeers. I'm Adam. And I'm Paul. 00:00:38.966 --> 00:00:42.226 And I'm Jerry. And today we've got a very special guest with us. 00:00:43.086 --> 00:00:47.606 We're not going to do a review except for his products. 00:00:47.906 --> 00:00:51.506 So without further ado, would you kindly introduce yourself, please? 00:00:52.366 --> 00:00:57.526 Hey, thanks for having me. My name is Jacob Bain. I am about to be middle-aged. 00:00:58.346 --> 00:01:04.546 I started my company a couple of years ago because of the stuff that happened during COVID. 00:01:04.546 --> 00:01:10.866 My wife had an issue with severe eczema on her hands, so I started looking into 00:01:10.866 --> 00:01:14.486 how to make a natural remedy for her eczema issues. 00:01:14.886 --> 00:01:18.926 Came up with a really great product that she never has flare-ups anymore, 00:01:18.926 --> 00:01:22.266 and out of that came a really good beard oil. 00:01:22.526 --> 00:01:24.206 Herbally infused beard oil, it's 00:01:24.206 --> 00:01:29.046 definitely different from 99.9% of the companies out there on the market. 00:01:29.326 --> 00:01:32.586 I'm also a dad to four. I'm a marine veteran. 00:01:33.686 --> 00:01:38.326 And yeah, that's pretty much it for the time being. Looking forward to talking 00:01:38.326 --> 00:01:39.986 to you guys and answering any questions you have. 00:01:40.606 --> 00:01:47.066 We appreciate you joining us. So first and foremost, we do center around veteran-owned 00:01:47.066 --> 00:01:49.446 companies and anything of the 00:01:49.446 --> 00:01:53.486 like when we possibly can. So I just want to thank you for your service. 00:01:54.106 --> 00:01:58.146 We've got a lot of respect for veterans. Unfortunately, none of the three of 00:01:58.146 --> 00:02:04.346 us are veterans ourselves. But, you know, we do our part whenever we possibly can. 00:02:04.546 --> 00:02:07.466 So, again, thank you. I can't thank you enough. 00:02:08.026 --> 00:02:14.066 Thank you. So, a little bit about that before we get on to COVID and your beard 00:02:14.066 --> 00:02:16.286 products. When did you join Marine Corps? 00:02:17.296 --> 00:02:21.216 Can you or would you like to talk about where you were stationed or deployed? 00:02:21.616 --> 00:02:24.056 Anything like that? We always like to hear that kind of stuff. 00:02:24.356 --> 00:02:28.156 Yeah, so I was in 3rd Battalion in Parris Island. 00:02:28.956 --> 00:02:36.776 Graduated June 25th of 99. Went out to Marine Combat Training up in Camp Geiger, Camp Lejeune area. 00:02:37.296 --> 00:02:40.556 Went out to 29 Palms for my MOS school. 00:02:40.736 --> 00:02:46.056 I was a naval messenger in 2542 and a 4066, which is data system. 00:02:46.056 --> 00:02:51.276 Spent two and a half months in the desert went out to Kaneohe Bay Hawaii which 00:02:51.276 --> 00:02:57.116 sounds luxurious and beautiful and it was but that base is old at the time it 00:02:57.116 --> 00:02:59.316 was not luxurious but it was beautiful. 00:03:00.916 --> 00:03:05.736 And started the process of I had knee surgery when I was in and started the process of, 00:03:06.756 --> 00:03:12.016 discharge and three months after 9-11 the Marine Corps said you cannot run you 00:03:12.016 --> 00:03:17.956 do not need to be here, and I said goodbye on January 4th, 2002. 00:03:18.376 --> 00:03:22.016 It was interesting times. Like, you know, 9-11 obviously happened. 00:03:22.636 --> 00:03:26.796 We just had the anniversary to that. It's always very bittersweet time of year. 00:03:27.356 --> 00:03:33.356 Not only it's all the people that died in the towers in Pennsylvania and in 00:03:33.356 --> 00:03:36.276 Washington, D.C., but not to get into the conspiracy at all, 00:03:36.396 --> 00:03:41.396 but all the people that subsequently died in the wars that we fought. do we actually... 00:03:42.656 --> 00:03:48.736 Do we actually know why we were there now? And it's tough for the veteran community. 00:03:49.716 --> 00:03:54.056 That's a bitter pill to swallow at this point, all the lives that were lost. 00:03:54.276 --> 00:03:57.916 I did not go to the Middle East in any way, shape, or form. 00:03:58.416 --> 00:04:01.116 My unit went about six months after I was discharged. 00:04:01.756 --> 00:04:05.676 I think anybody in that situation would feel guilt. I did. 00:04:06.336 --> 00:04:09.236 But about a year and a half after I got out, I met my wife. 00:04:09.496 --> 00:04:13.156 I met her on her 18th birthday. I refused to meet her. which we met on AOL. 00:04:13.396 --> 00:04:15.916 I refused to go meet her face-to-face until she turned 18. 00:04:16.776 --> 00:04:21.136 And we've been together ever since. She just turned 40. So yeah, 00:04:21.136 --> 00:04:23.336 we've been together a long time, married for 18 years. 00:04:23.776 --> 00:04:29.536 But I wouldn't trade that experience in any way at all. I enjoyed what I did. 00:04:29.936 --> 00:04:36.336 I enjoyed the time that I spent there. I was a dodo bird there because I got 00:04:36.336 --> 00:04:39.256 along with all the locals. And that was very rare. 00:04:39.956 --> 00:04:45.456 And I was kind of a quasi adopted into a Hawaiian family that I still considered to be family. 00:04:45.676 --> 00:04:48.796 And after all this time, because I didn't go there to be a jerk, 00:04:48.796 --> 00:04:53.796 I went out there to, you know, be a good person and still serve my country, 00:04:53.796 --> 00:04:56.876 but also learn who the people were that we were around. 00:04:57.056 --> 00:04:59.816 You know, I wouldn't trade that time in for the world. 00:04:59.956 --> 00:05:03.176 Would I do some things differently? Of course, you know, as you get older, 00:05:03.316 --> 00:05:06.316 and you get wiser, there's always things that you would do differently. You know what I mean? 00:05:07.536 --> 00:05:14.636 But, you know, that just made me who I am and it prepared me to be a husband and a father, you know. 00:05:14.976 --> 00:05:18.596 So those life lessons are invaluable and I want to trade them to the world. 00:05:20.536 --> 00:05:23.696 Again, we're at the risk of sounding redundant. 00:05:24.076 --> 00:05:29.396 We thank you for your service. It's amazing and we really appreciate it. Yeah. 00:05:30.332 --> 00:05:32.452 So tell us about your company. What's the name of the company? 00:05:33.152 --> 00:05:36.372 So the company's name is Bain Blends. My last name is Bain. 00:05:36.632 --> 00:05:41.512 You know, we went through about 18 months of just kind of product development. 00:05:42.452 --> 00:05:46.952 We have a puppy that is not even four months old. He's barking in the background. Sorry about that. 00:05:47.232 --> 00:05:51.452 But we went through about 18 months of product development. 00:05:51.552 --> 00:05:56.192 I made the sale for my wife and got her something other than topical steroids, 00:05:56.312 --> 00:06:00.012 which I don't know if you guys know, but topical steroids are not good for the human body. 00:06:00.332 --> 00:06:02.332 They can turn on you in a minute. 00:06:02.752 --> 00:06:05.712 You can cause all sorts of problems. They can even kill you. 00:06:06.312 --> 00:06:10.932 So I wanted her off those steroids as soon as I could. But so we were nameless. 00:06:11.092 --> 00:06:15.212 And after I decided to form the company, I had my wife's crazy friend, Lisa. 00:06:15.872 --> 00:06:18.732 My wife's from Staten Island. She's still up in Staten Island. 00:06:19.372 --> 00:06:23.712 So crazy friend, Lisa, who was in our wedding, I put it out on Facebook. 00:06:23.712 --> 00:06:28.332 She goes, you need to drive your ego and just call it Bane Blends. 00:06:28.332 --> 00:06:33.352 I said, I don't have much of an ego, but that's what I'm going to do. 00:06:33.872 --> 00:06:38.752 But looking back on it, it was probably one of the best things that could have 00:06:38.752 --> 00:06:48.512 been done because a lot of companies develop a legacy outside of some sort of thing that's personal. 00:06:48.912 --> 00:06:50.812 This company name is personal. 00:06:51.992 --> 00:06:56.792 And my 17-year-old son helped with making some product. 00:06:56.792 --> 00:07:02.772 My daughter helps label product my eight-year-old he'll walk around in a coat 00:07:02.772 --> 00:07:09.352 and a cowboy hat and pass out business cards and we go to costco i mean you 00:07:09.352 --> 00:07:12.412 know my wife runs the business during the day when i'm working my normal job 00:07:12.412 --> 00:07:15.572 she fills orders it's become a family affair, 00:07:16.232 --> 00:07:20.432 so that aspect of it's been very important because you know you're not just 00:07:20.432 --> 00:07:23.652 building a company you're building a potential family legacy. 00:07:24.292 --> 00:07:28.232 You know, if we have that time, if we have the ability to keep it going, 00:07:28.572 --> 00:07:32.012 there's more to it than just a company name. You know? 00:07:32.672 --> 00:07:38.872 So crazy friend Lisa, she gave us the idea and that's what we ran with. 00:07:39.612 --> 00:07:44.192 So we, there's an artist locally that doesn't really have anything to do with, 00:07:44.392 --> 00:07:48.992 too much with Bane, but he's a he does mixed art. 00:07:49.272 --> 00:07:55.032 He's he'll do like Guys from the colonial war, they'll have AR-15s, 00:07:55.092 --> 00:08:00.212 but the, you know, the tri-point hat, beautiful, beautiful artwork this guy 00:08:00.212 --> 00:08:01.692 does, but it's all patriotic. 00:08:01.952 --> 00:08:05.092 You don't have monks with a prayer that has a sword. 00:08:05.672 --> 00:08:11.552 Like, that's all sorts of really rad stuff. And he did this piece of art for 00:08:11.552 --> 00:08:15.952 me and, you know, gave me a sweet discount on it. 00:08:16.152 --> 00:08:18.832 And that's, you know, this is Bane right here on my hat. 00:08:19.332 --> 00:08:23.292 And we're developing some stuff to kind of go around that but yeah I'm just 00:08:23.292 --> 00:08:27.052 hoping that I can pass along to my kids and you know get them to see the value 00:08:27.052 --> 00:08:29.492 of it because it is for them too you know it's not just for me. 00:08:30.566 --> 00:08:32.926 Yeah. So real quick, just to throw it back to the Marine Corps, 00:08:33.426 --> 00:08:37.186 I, you said third battalion, I went looking for this picture of my dad. 00:08:37.306 --> 00:08:39.846 You can, I don't know if you can see that real well there. 00:08:40.266 --> 00:08:44.126 Yeah. My dad and my grandfather. Oh, I see it. I gotcha. I see it. 00:08:44.506 --> 00:08:48.406 A third battalion age company. So, uh, uh, like I said, he was there at Parris 00:08:48.406 --> 00:08:51.766 Island. I just, when you said that, I was a mic company. 00:08:52.166 --> 00:08:55.286 I'm sorry. I was a mic company. Okay. Okay. 00:08:56.346 --> 00:08:59.546 Yeah. So that's awesome. That, that hat is awesome. 00:08:59.686 --> 00:09:04.166 That, that, little design that's that's on there that that yeah that guy definitely 00:09:04.166 --> 00:09:07.586 does some cool stuff i'll have to we'll have to get his name from you at some 00:09:07.586 --> 00:09:12.606 point so i can go look at he's got some stuff online but mareski illustration 00:09:12.606 --> 00:09:18.746 m-o-r-e-s-c-h i'll send it to you okay yeah perfect, 00:09:19.306 --> 00:09:22.626 i'm sure jerry's got a whole list of of stuff 00:09:22.626 --> 00:09:26.246 there questions and whatnot so i'm gonna turn it over to jerry yeah 00:09:26.246 --> 00:09:29.466 so you said you decided to start because of the eczema 00:09:29.466 --> 00:09:32.546 and all the other skin stuff how many when you 00:09:32.546 --> 00:09:35.586 launched the brand how many products did you originally have 00:09:35.586 --> 00:09:38.686 uh we had the the eczema and 00:09:38.686 --> 00:09:41.846 psoriasis to south and we had like three oils 00:09:41.846 --> 00:09:47.346 the man cave lumberjack and lime bergamot and that was pretty much it we had 00:09:47.346 --> 00:09:54.386 started the development of the deodorant and a couple of butters using similar 00:09:54.386 --> 00:10:00.506 principles the deodorant's much more simple you know doesn't have the herbal infusion in it, 00:10:00.626 --> 00:10:03.166 but it is still a very clean deodorant. 00:10:03.786 --> 00:10:09.026 Less is more in some of these instances. You don't need a lot of stuff to kill bacteria. 00:10:09.166 --> 00:10:12.226 You just need simple products or simple ingredients. 00:10:12.766 --> 00:10:17.506 So at first, September of two years ago, we had about maybe four or five products. 00:10:18.026 --> 00:10:22.866 Within about a month, we had a whole bunch of butters that we had come up with, 00:10:22.866 --> 00:10:25.826 maybe three or four more cents, but it was pretty basic. 00:10:26.126 --> 00:10:33.886 Within a few months of that, I got into this local market, series of markets 00:10:33.886 --> 00:10:39.106 called Detweiler's Farmer's Market. They have four or five really decent sized grocery stores. 00:10:39.606 --> 00:10:43.906 And I'm in three of their four health and wellness departments selling the salve, 00:10:44.106 --> 00:10:46.426 deodorant, a couple of oils and a couple of butters. 00:10:46.966 --> 00:10:51.766 But yeah, I think four, maybe five products from the very beginning, nothing crazy. 00:10:52.406 --> 00:10:56.766 And just started getting in the hands of friends, asking guys at my church to 00:10:56.766 --> 00:11:01.806 try the oils and getting their feedback and sort of handing stuff out. 00:11:01.906 --> 00:11:04.966 What do you like? What do you not like? Here's the principle behind it. 00:11:05.266 --> 00:11:10.946 Does anybody have any eczema issues? Passing out the eczema stuff and seeing how it helped people. 00:11:11.746 --> 00:11:17.666 Yeah, I mean, basic, simple, nothing frivolous, although the products are difficult 00:11:17.666 --> 00:11:19.886 and time-consuming to make. 00:11:20.781 --> 00:11:22.721 But we've locked that down too, 00:11:22.921 --> 00:11:28.521 of course. But we laid the groundwork for being able to do more quickly. 00:11:28.861 --> 00:11:33.661 The oil that I make is in everything I make except for the balm and the deodorant. 00:11:33.941 --> 00:11:39.081 So when I make 500 ounces, I'm doing it all at once. 00:11:39.241 --> 00:11:42.761 And that is the baseline for almost everything I make. 00:11:42.881 --> 00:11:48.521 The eczema and psoriasis salve is the most complicated oil that I build for 00:11:48.521 --> 00:11:49.661 that with more ingredients. 00:11:49.661 --> 00:11:52.701 And it takes longer 00:11:52.701 --> 00:11:55.841 but same principle it gets infused 00:11:55.841 --> 00:11:59.121 i strain it i pour it i 00:11:59.121 --> 00:12:03.281 put the essential ingredients in it and then you know over an hour or so it 00:12:03.281 --> 00:12:08.801 cools down i whip it i mix it i package it and it's done but yeah we started 00:12:08.801 --> 00:12:13.081 off very simple uh the original labels are i don't have any in here but the 00:12:13.081 --> 00:12:17.361 original labels are that craft paper brown craft paper labeling. 00:12:19.321 --> 00:12:22.801 And six months trying to figure out how to make stupid labels, 00:12:23.401 --> 00:12:29.341 you know some of the things that I struggle with now are so far beyond what 00:12:29.341 --> 00:12:33.561 I was struggling with back then it was so simple the struggles I was having, 00:12:34.101 --> 00:12:38.301 and now it's like that feels like forever ago it feels like 10 years ago that 00:12:38.301 --> 00:12:43.381 we were having those problems but what's funny is that A lot of people in the 00:12:43.381 --> 00:12:48.501 bearded community that are starting around businesses all have the same struggles, all of us. 00:12:49.221 --> 00:12:52.561 And it's been a blessing to be able to help a lot of these newer companies. 00:12:53.261 --> 00:12:55.961 I've helped them with labeling. I've helped them with product development. 00:12:56.461 --> 00:12:58.001 I've helped them with their deodorant. 00:12:58.141 --> 00:13:02.681 I've helped them, you know, I haven't helped them with the salve. That one's mine. 00:13:02.961 --> 00:13:08.461 But I have, I have helped them try to make a better product that helps people, you know? 00:13:09.661 --> 00:13:14.141 So yeah, four or five baseline products. And I still have those products today. 00:13:14.361 --> 00:13:16.461 I haven't pulled those. Those are still there. 00:13:16.941 --> 00:13:23.541 Yeah, we'll get into that later. But I'm pretty sure I counted like 31 cents for oils. 00:13:23.641 --> 00:13:30.701 And that doesn't include the deodorant and the salve and the butters and balms 00:13:30.701 --> 00:13:32.261 and all that. So I'm curious. 00:13:34.421 --> 00:13:40.581 Can you say that again? Which one? S-A-L-V-E. Say that again. Salve. 00:13:41.501 --> 00:13:50.181 Salve. I've never heard anybody say Sal. So really put an emphasis on that. I'm sorry. Go ahead. 00:13:51.380 --> 00:13:54.300 Yeah, we've been talking about this infusion and everything. 00:13:54.500 --> 00:13:57.680 I guess we got to get into that before we get too far deep into this. 00:13:57.820 --> 00:14:02.720 But yeah, the base beard oil is that herbal infused avocado oil. 00:14:02.880 --> 00:14:06.580 Then you got the sweet almond, jojoba, rosehip, apricot kernel oil, 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.700 argan, squalene, hemp seed, black cumin seed, pumpkin seed, aloe vera, 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:16.240 castor, grape seed, organic, cold pressed virgin coconut oil, 00:14:16.460 --> 00:14:17.900 vitamin E, and shea butter. 00:14:17.900 --> 00:14:25.080 And then there's what was it like 17 different herbs that went into that that 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:29.600 avocado oil which i'll throw a little picture up here when when we go to edit 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:31.320 it just because there's so much into it. 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.200 Which i i'm gonna grab it from your website which actually includes 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.980 like why you pick them and like what they help out with which is 00:14:37.980 --> 00:14:40.860 pretty cool but did you like how did you 00:14:40.860 --> 00:14:43.960 come up with the thought of infusion 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.920 like was it and did you always have the 17 or was 00:14:46.920 --> 00:14:49.840 it like a trial and error until you got to where 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:52.800 you are today so we really like the tennessee valley 00:14:52.800 --> 00:14:55.640 area you know we go to blue ridge 00:14:55.640 --> 00:14:59.120 georgia quite a few times a year we haven't lately because of my heart issues 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:04.160 that i've been recovering from but mckaysville tennessee right along the border 00:15:04.160 --> 00:15:09.160 of georgia like you drive like this and you're going in and out of georgia and 00:15:09.160 --> 00:15:14.120 tennessee to get to this place we went there and picked out with the help of the owner, 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:18.680 a whole bunch of different herbs and a couple different packs of a whole bunch 00:15:18.680 --> 00:15:21.520 of different herbs that could help my wife with her issue, could help me with 00:15:21.520 --> 00:15:24.040 my rosacea issues, mainly for her problems though. 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:29.180 And the issue that we had was how to extract it. So if you know anything about 00:15:29.180 --> 00:15:34.020 tinctures, you do that with alcohol, right? You can't use it on your skin. 00:15:34.906 --> 00:15:38.546 So the other issue was how to get this into oil. 00:15:39.206 --> 00:15:43.586 So I can't give everything away because it is sort of a unique thought. 00:15:43.606 --> 00:15:47.926 And I try to help other businesses as they come to me and ask. 00:15:48.006 --> 00:15:53.786 But I figured out a way to heat extract the herbs and the oil consistently over 00:15:53.786 --> 00:15:55.106 the course of a couple of days. 00:15:55.786 --> 00:16:02.566 When I figured that out we were able to get all that stuff out of the herbs infused into the oil. 00:16:03.846 --> 00:16:06.666 To transfer the properties of those herbs into the 00:16:06.666 --> 00:16:09.806 oil so then I would just make sure 00:16:09.806 --> 00:16:13.226 that everything was nice and amasticated very 00:16:13.226 --> 00:16:16.186 powdered like strain it get 00:16:16.186 --> 00:16:19.586 everything out of the oil that I possibly could as far as the powders whatever 00:16:19.586 --> 00:16:25.926 some of that does end up in the oil but it's minimal and you know certain herbs 00:16:25.926 --> 00:16:31.126 just say rosemary for example is antimicrobial but it also helps grow your hair 00:16:31.126 --> 00:16:35.326 right if i had nothing else in my oil it would be rosemary, 00:16:36.406 --> 00:16:41.426 it's it's one of the best hair growth herbs you can possibly use but there's 00:16:41.426 --> 00:16:48.586 other herbs in there that help create a protein around your hair right so that 00:16:48.586 --> 00:16:52.806 way your hair your your your beard will have a natural slip to it. 00:16:52.986 --> 00:16:56.326 It'll be, it'll have a, it won't tangle. 00:16:56.566 --> 00:17:00.026 It'll flow well. It'll slip your fingers through it or comb through it. 00:17:00.766 --> 00:17:04.886 There's other herbs that are antimicrobial. There's some that are antifungal. 00:17:05.086 --> 00:17:09.166 There are some that help make your pores clean. 00:17:10.406 --> 00:17:15.046 There's all sorts of different things that they do. And a lot of them are kind of overkill. 00:17:15.666 --> 00:17:19.206 There are some that do the same thing as another, but because they're different, 00:17:20.269 --> 00:17:25.089 They help differently. They sort of build upon each other and they help each other. 00:17:25.249 --> 00:17:30.209 So the same, you probably will ask, but what black, pumpkin seed oil. 00:17:30.789 --> 00:17:33.529 Pumpkin seed oil in and of itself should not be in beard oil. 00:17:33.929 --> 00:17:37.069 But when you put pumpkin seed oil with a bunch of other oils, 00:17:37.329 --> 00:17:41.229 it makes those other oils more effective. They work better. 00:17:42.349 --> 00:17:47.369 So I started building it going, well, I should use this herb. What's the price? 00:17:47.829 --> 00:17:50.869 It does this. can't exclude it 00:17:50.869 --> 00:17:53.749 and i kept doing i could have put 40 different herbs in 00:17:53.749 --> 00:17:57.169 there there's so many it's ridiculous yeah but 00:17:57.169 --> 00:18:00.169 for price per ounce per 00:18:00.169 --> 00:18:06.329 pound what they did they extend the life of the oil rosemary naturally extends 00:18:06.329 --> 00:18:13.889 the life of the oil to years right and it's the shelf life extends for years 00:18:13.889 --> 00:18:18.289 in the oils now i wouldn't do that but i can get, 00:18:19.029 --> 00:18:24.089 comfortably get 18 months to two years out of an oil, and I feel good about 00:18:24.089 --> 00:18:28.029 it, I could do five. I won't, but I could. 00:18:28.729 --> 00:18:34.569 So there's a lot of reasons to do this infusion, but it's simple. 00:18:34.889 --> 00:18:37.129 Time or heat in time. 00:18:37.689 --> 00:18:42.009 So if you have rosemary, which you can heat up to like 200 degrees and it'll 00:18:42.009 --> 00:18:45.949 be fine, but you have another, like one of the flowers, jasmine that's in there 00:18:45.949 --> 00:18:51.829 can only go up to 140, you stay at 140 and you infuse over the course of a couple of days at 140. 00:18:52.809 --> 00:18:57.049 And at the end of a couple of days of that, or sitting in my climate controlled 00:18:57.049 --> 00:19:01.269 storage unit for several months, it's infused. It can be strained. 00:19:01.349 --> 00:19:07.389 It can be added to other oils. You have a medicinal quality herbal oil that, 00:19:08.080 --> 00:19:14.640 that I've only seen one other company do, and they had maybe three or four herbs in it. And that was it. 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:20.120 How do you all come up with your scent profiles? Is it something you're targeting? 00:19:20.320 --> 00:19:25.140 Are you just mixing different herbs and kind of, well, this smells nice, 00:19:25.140 --> 00:19:28.220 let's get some scent profiles off for the label type of deal? 00:19:28.280 --> 00:19:30.600 It's like chicken or the egg. Yeah. 00:19:31.120 --> 00:19:35.180 Well, there's been quite a few ideas that have come from the bearded community. 00:19:35.180 --> 00:19:41.140 You know and hey we want a tobacco or hey we want you know we want a fragrance 00:19:41.140 --> 00:19:48.400 only or we want essential oil only we want a mixture of the two so it has to 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:49.980 work with the herbal oil right, 00:19:50.660 --> 00:19:58.420 so we got this cologne dupe from tom ford tobacco oud fantastic company that 00:19:58.420 --> 00:20:03.880 makes the dupe and we brought it we bought a small one ounce bottle to try it 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:06.200 and see how it worked with the herbal oil and it works. 00:20:06.800 --> 00:20:12.820 You know, we might mix that with a Stantel or maybe another type of oud, 00:20:12.820 --> 00:20:18.340 or maybe we find an essential oil that works with it. We add a few drops just to kind of enhance it. 00:20:18.900 --> 00:20:21.760 So, but everything has to work with that baseline oil. 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.800 So we'll find something that we like, and we've got probably 400 bottles of 00:20:25.800 --> 00:20:30.420 essential oils, essential oil and fragrance oil mixtures or fragrance oils. 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:39.260 And we have probably 175 scent ideas that we could make tomorrow that work with that herbal oil. 00:20:39.840 --> 00:20:44.200 Unfortunately, not everything will work. And we've come up with some things 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.180 that just we didn't like. But, 00:20:47.276 --> 00:20:51.496 I'm very picky about what I put on my beard. And I've had beard oil that I bought 00:20:51.496 --> 00:20:53.936 way before I started doing this business because I was always, 00:20:54.116 --> 00:20:56.776 I hated the itch. I got headaches. 00:20:57.516 --> 00:21:02.136 Leather smelled like chlorine. A whole host of issues. There's cherries that 00:21:02.136 --> 00:21:03.796 give me a headache instantly. 00:21:05.176 --> 00:21:10.136 And everything we do now is based off of, if I buy that sample bottle and I 00:21:10.136 --> 00:21:16.836 smell it and it triggers whatever is wrong with my head, it doesn't get used and we toss it. 00:21:17.376 --> 00:21:21.156 Now, we could make a whole bunch of stuff that guys may like, 00:21:21.276 --> 00:21:25.756 but if I have that problem, maybe your spouse has that problem. 00:21:25.856 --> 00:21:31.916 Or maybe you walk into a grocery store and someone is severely allergic to something 00:21:31.916 --> 00:21:35.196 that triggers that issue with their nose and they go to the hospital. 00:21:35.676 --> 00:21:39.016 There are people like that, and I've met them. we had 00:21:39.016 --> 00:21:42.036 a lady at our job she had to work from home for 00:21:42.036 --> 00:21:44.936 years because if she walked within 00:21:44.936 --> 00:21:48.156 30 or 40 feet of someone wearing even a tiniest amount 00:21:48.156 --> 00:21:55.436 of perfume she would go into anaphylactic shop so that problem is getting worse 00:21:55.436 --> 00:22:00.016 it's not getting better there are more and more people having that problem now 00:22:00.016 --> 00:22:05.656 and that's one of the reason why there's the earth i got the earth Irfa guidelines that Europe has. 00:22:05.876 --> 00:22:09.036 You should only put so much scent into so much oil. 00:22:09.516 --> 00:22:13.136 So for me, like the bottle that you guys had, the lemon bourbon blaze, 00:22:13.256 --> 00:22:18.676 that's only about two and a half milliliters of scent in a 30 milliliter bottle, right? 00:22:19.936 --> 00:22:25.096 It's nothing. There's guys in the community that scent up to five mils in their bottles. 00:22:26.229 --> 00:22:29.989 Safe, I think, is about three and a half. There are companies that don't pay 00:22:29.989 --> 00:22:33.929 attention to that because it's a European recommendation. It's not an American recommendation. 00:22:34.409 --> 00:22:37.309 But then you have also the issues with artificial vanilla. 00:22:37.809 --> 00:22:41.029 A lot of companies out there that don't care about that. I do. 00:22:41.469 --> 00:22:48.549 I buy from fragrance oil or essential oil companies that meet specifications 00:22:48.549 --> 00:22:51.209 so people don't have those reactions. 00:22:53.169 --> 00:22:57.449 So we build everything off. Back to your question. We build everything off the herbal oil. 00:22:57.989 --> 00:23:00.769 There's a lot of give and take as the decisions that we make. 00:23:01.149 --> 00:23:05.029 But a lot of it is, well, Mike, will I get a frigging migraine off of it? 00:23:05.509 --> 00:23:08.809 And I have gotten stuff as gifts from other guys in the community. 00:23:08.809 --> 00:23:12.329 I will not say who they are because I love them and I care about them. 00:23:12.629 --> 00:23:14.169 Their oil goes in the garage. 00:23:15.049 --> 00:23:20.009 I opened it. It goes straight there. I've had leathers that smell like chlorine 00:23:20.009 --> 00:23:23.069 and they smell like a pool that's getting fresh chlorine in it. 00:23:23.069 --> 00:23:30.109 But I've had cherries that smelled like rotten cough syrup immediately in the garage. 00:23:30.669 --> 00:23:33.869 So I don't want to do that to people. 00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:40.649 Again, I don't treat my beard oil as anything other than an herbal medicinal 00:23:40.649 --> 00:23:42.729 treatment for your face. 00:23:43.349 --> 00:23:47.729 Because I want your face to be better than it was before. Because I also want 00:23:47.729 --> 00:23:52.089 your spouse, your daughter, your son to be able to take that oil. 00:23:52.089 --> 00:23:55.289 And if they have an acne, an acne flare up, they could put some on their face. 00:23:55.849 --> 00:24:00.749 I mean, my kids use my beard oil, not even the act, not even the psoriasis and eczema style. 00:24:00.889 --> 00:24:04.749 They use my beard oil on their face and it helps treat their breakouts. 00:24:05.974 --> 00:24:10.034 So like for me, there's a little bit of a higher purpose other than just dumping 00:24:10.034 --> 00:24:12.154 some fragrance in a bottle. You know what I mean? 00:24:12.914 --> 00:24:17.114 But the one that you had there, that was an idea from somebody else. 00:24:17.114 --> 00:24:19.974 And I said, I have lemonade that we just made. 00:24:20.234 --> 00:24:25.034 I got this drunken brownie and I had this Cuban tobacco. Let's put them all together. 00:24:25.714 --> 00:24:30.134 And after that dry down, it's nice. But you got to get past the dry down. 00:24:30.414 --> 00:24:35.134 That 30 minutes is rough on that one. And I recognize that. I do. 00:24:35.974 --> 00:24:42.454 So, yeah. So for this one, yeah, that, that herbal infusion comes out real strong. 00:24:42.854 --> 00:24:48.394 Like we said, like 30 minutes, maybe an hour, depending on how, how your nose takes it. 00:24:48.514 --> 00:24:52.994 But once that dies down, it's, it starts out like this nice, 00:24:53.254 --> 00:24:57.694 like lemony vanilla, a little bit of like tobacco in there. 00:24:57.694 --> 00:25:02.294 And I didn't notice it until I wore this, I don't know, about two weeks. 00:25:02.294 --> 00:25:05.234 My thing, I got like one after sampling out to the other guys, 00:25:05.274 --> 00:25:08.674 I got like maybe one, maybe two applications left. 00:25:08.874 --> 00:25:13.134 So I wore it for about two, three weeks and not until, what was it? 00:25:13.234 --> 00:25:17.394 Two days ago, all of a sudden I'm like, I smelled chocolate and I went back 00:25:17.394 --> 00:25:20.414 to this and I see on there, you put chocolate. I was like, I had never smelled that one before. 00:25:20.714 --> 00:25:24.374 And it finishes with like, um, almost like a campfire smoke, 00:25:24.694 --> 00:25:28.414 like a little smokiness to it, which kind of rounds out really nice. 00:25:28.414 --> 00:25:33.354 But yeah that herbal stuff once you get past that it's fantastic and it's not 00:25:33.354 --> 00:25:39.554 like it's a bad smell to me and to my wife it smelled like I was making like 00:25:39.554 --> 00:25:44.474 spaghetti with pasta sauce with some that herbs but once that dissipated it 00:25:44.474 --> 00:25:48.174 was fine at first I was kind of scared I'm like if I'm gonna just. 00:25:49.077 --> 00:25:52.697 Pasta sauce. I wanted to say pasta sauce on the label, but like I said, 00:25:52.797 --> 00:25:56.037 it dissipated within like 30 minutes, and it's still there, but it's not. 00:25:56.157 --> 00:26:00.737 It works well with everything, like the earthiness of the tobacco and the vanilla 00:26:00.737 --> 00:26:03.117 bourbon scent and everything like that. It actually works out well with it. 00:26:03.317 --> 00:26:05.077 I was really pleased with this one. 00:26:06.257 --> 00:26:11.337 Agreed. That rosemary can kick. I've actually been talking to a couple other 00:26:11.337 --> 00:26:15.477 guys, and I try to figure out how to reduce the effect of the rosemary and the 00:26:15.477 --> 00:26:18.357 oil, but the rosemary is so good for your beer. 00:26:19.577 --> 00:26:22.417 It's, it's one of those trade-offs for me, you know, it's like, 00:26:22.537 --> 00:26:27.577 you can, you cannot have it, but then is it going to do the same for your beard? 00:26:27.757 --> 00:26:32.077 You know, that's, it's, it's a hard trade-off for me. I actually just put extra 00:26:32.077 --> 00:26:34.937 rosemary for a guy that's really struggling with his beard. 00:26:35.077 --> 00:26:38.657 I just put extra because he's losing his, he's losing his fur, 00:26:38.877 --> 00:26:43.897 his facial fur's falling off and it's stress and probably a bunch of other things, 00:26:43.917 --> 00:26:49.037 but I'm going to give you an unscented one i'm gonna add a whole bunch of extra 00:26:49.037 --> 00:26:57.317 rosemary in there for you yes child okay so yeah it's and i do apologize it 00:26:57.317 --> 00:27:01.157 i don't smell it anymore like it doesn't affect me anymore, 00:27:01.697 --> 00:27:05.017 but there's some guys in the community that can actually smell it i'm actually 00:27:05.017 --> 00:27:08.577 happy that you can smell it to be fair but there's some guys in the community 00:27:08.577 --> 00:27:14.197 that just can't smell it and that they're killing their noses with scent every day, man. 00:27:15.157 --> 00:27:19.317 They're putting so much fragrance on their face, they can't smell anything else 00:27:19.317 --> 00:27:21.857 anymore. And that's not good for you either. 00:27:24.017 --> 00:27:30.097 Imagine getting a really good glass of bourbon or whiskey and not being able to smell it. 00:27:30.857 --> 00:27:35.717 Some of these guys have that problem because they're dousing their faces one, 00:27:35.897 --> 00:27:39.537 two, three, five times a day with cologne or beard oil. 00:27:40.097 --> 00:27:42.757 That's not good for you. It's just not. 00:27:43.417 --> 00:27:46.597 And a lot of these guys don't understand that. They just don't get it. 00:27:47.137 --> 00:27:50.817 And look, I'm nothing special, man. I am doing something different, 00:27:50.997 --> 00:27:51.757 but I'm nothing special. 00:27:51.937 --> 00:27:55.217 I'm just a guy that saw a problem trying to figure out a way to solve it. 00:27:56.497 --> 00:28:02.897 But the niche that I'm filling is difficult. And I want people to be happy with 00:28:02.897 --> 00:28:10.157 what I make. And like that herbal backdrop is a problem, but yeah. 00:28:11.466 --> 00:28:17.426 It's not, it's not bad. Like, it's not like it turns me away from the oil. 00:28:17.606 --> 00:28:22.726 It should, I wasn't, when I first opened the jar, I wasn't expecting it. I'll put it that way. 00:28:22.866 --> 00:28:26.266 But after the second, third time I went into it, like, oh, it's there. 00:28:26.366 --> 00:28:28.906 It's nice. And it dissipates. And I just went back to it. 00:28:29.366 --> 00:28:32.626 I said, there's a little bit in there now. I don't know if I got used to it 00:28:32.626 --> 00:28:35.966 or if it just kind of faded away, but it's doesn't seem to be in there. 00:28:36.066 --> 00:28:39.346 There's a little bit of like that earthiness from those, some herbs in there, 00:28:39.426 --> 00:28:42.706 but it's, it's that mainly that lemon vanilla 00:28:42.706 --> 00:28:45.666 scent in that bottle right now so it definitely 00:28:45.666 --> 00:28:48.346 dissipates over time so i think you probably would 00:28:48.346 --> 00:28:51.126 have been better off getting the bourbon blaze as opposed 00:28:51.126 --> 00:28:54.206 to the lemon bourbon blaze is the bourbon blaze 00:28:54.206 --> 00:28:57.246 is one of my favorites by a long shot it just doesn't have that 00:28:57.246 --> 00:29:00.686 real sharp lemon and lemongrass 00:29:00.686 --> 00:29:04.066 wallet that that one asked because that 00:29:04.066 --> 00:29:06.826 that hits your nose hard like it hit my nose 00:29:06.826 --> 00:29:10.426 hard too the lemon bourbon blaze i that's 00:29:10.426 --> 00:29:13.106 usually so i typically stay towards like 00:29:13.106 --> 00:29:16.366 the the cologne style sense or something like that adam likes 00:29:16.366 --> 00:29:19.606 more of the the tobacco vanilla scent and 00:29:19.606 --> 00:29:25.106 then paul he's all over the place yeah i really like the lemon scent i mean 00:29:25.106 --> 00:29:30.746 this is a good up my alley i'm i like lemon i like herbals and mint you know 00:29:30.746 --> 00:29:36.566 blueberry and just kind of weird sets because everybody has a bourbon and that kind of thing. 00:29:36.786 --> 00:29:39.006 Do you like cherry? Love cherry, yep. 00:29:40.246 --> 00:29:44.906 And so I really liked this one. It was bright. You know, that initial herbal pop. 00:29:45.186 --> 00:29:49.026 There was a brightness to it. Like, I really liked it a lot. 00:29:49.226 --> 00:29:52.546 And the lemon kind of fades into what Jerry just said. 00:29:52.826 --> 00:29:54.866 It's like a chocolate bar. 00:29:55.246 --> 00:29:59.946 I mean, I have it. I put it in this morning after a shower and still smell like 00:29:59.946 --> 00:30:03.346 this smoky chocolate bar in my beard, which is awesome. 00:30:03.666 --> 00:30:06.646 It kind of, the set kind of evolves too, which is really cool. 00:30:06.646 --> 00:30:12.306 I didn't get that until a few hours after each time I put it in I don't get that. 00:30:13.686 --> 00:30:19.826 It's nice all the sense throughout that whole evolution I've really enjoyed 00:30:19.826 --> 00:30:24.146 with just this one alone there's a guy named a bearded Texan his name is Chris, 00:30:24.246 --> 00:30:30.286 super cool guy I had to convince him to get the bourbon blaze he goes, 00:30:30.366 --> 00:30:34.086 it has chocolate I hate chocolate, I said, Chris just trust me, 00:30:35.086 --> 00:30:41.386 and he got it And he said, dude, this is one of my favorite beard oils. 00:30:41.686 --> 00:30:44.306 It's like the chocolate's there, but it's perfect. 00:30:44.626 --> 00:30:48.426 Because it fits and complements the scent profile so well. 00:30:48.926 --> 00:30:55.506 And again, it's just like we're finding great companies that make really killer fragrances. 00:30:56.126 --> 00:31:02.646 And we're just building these fragrances out to make a really cool scent profile. 00:31:02.886 --> 00:31:05.406 That's my wife, by the way. She's the nose by a long shot. 00:31:05.806 --> 00:31:10.606 I mean, he's Italian, man. She could, she made, that's probably why it smells like pasta, you know? 00:31:14.366 --> 00:31:18.266 So I had one, I had one guy by lumberjack. He goes, I thought I was eating turkey 00:31:18.266 --> 00:31:20.146 dinner. I'm like, come on, man. 00:31:21.466 --> 00:31:25.206 Then another guy got it and he goes, dude, this is right up my alley. 00:31:25.366 --> 00:31:31.286 It smells like a pine forest. Like you're walking through cedar and fresh rain. 00:31:31.286 --> 00:31:33.926 He goes, it smells incredible. And that was essential. 00:31:34.826 --> 00:31:38.566 So, but it has clary sage in it, which is probably why it smells like turkey 00:31:38.566 --> 00:31:39.806 dinner to another guy. You know, 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.919 And I can't control somebody else's nose, you know, but I respect it. 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.499 Like everybody has their own set profiles they like or dislike. 00:31:48.999 --> 00:31:51.019 One guy will like foodie stuff. 00:31:51.719 --> 00:31:55.619 Key lime pie, which I have. One guy loved it. Peach Cobbler, 00:31:55.719 --> 00:31:57.619 the guy I have, the guy loved it. 00:31:57.939 --> 00:32:00.699 Panop upside down cake, he loved it. But some of the other stuff, 00:32:00.819 --> 00:32:03.559 the colognes that I make, he hated it. 00:32:04.139 --> 00:32:07.779 And yet another guy loved all of them. And it's just, 00:32:07.939 --> 00:32:12.119 I've just come to appreciate how different everybody is, which is why I offer 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.079 kind of a wide variety of different scent profiles because I'm trying to make 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:20.819 sure that I have something for everybody in the community, you know? 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:27.439 Yeah. Like going through 31 cents range, everything from this one, 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:34.219 mahogany oak, which is mahogany, lavender, vetiver, oak moss, cedarwood and oak. 00:32:34.379 --> 00:32:37.539 And then you got like the one we have, the lemon bourbon blaze 00:32:37.539 --> 00:32:40.959 and then you got burnt orange and and i 00:32:40.959 --> 00:32:43.799 think i saw s'mores one in there and then the key lime and 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.479 lemonade and one that i didn't notice before but 00:32:46.479 --> 00:32:49.499 you got a mai tai scented one a mint chocolate chip 00:32:49.499 --> 00:32:55.719 orange sherbet the peach cobbler it if there's a scent it's probably in this 00:32:55.719 --> 00:33:00.539 little lineup somewhere like going to robbins i was looking through looking 00:33:00.539 --> 00:33:04.579 through it earlier and i was like holy shit like there's a bunch in there and 00:33:04.579 --> 00:33:08.799 then there's that that smoked cherry which is cherry, Cuban tobacco, 00:33:09.139 --> 00:33:12.739 tobacco vanilla, and sandalwood, which is right up Paul's alley there. 00:33:12.859 --> 00:33:16.339 It smells so good. It sounds like it might be up my alley too. 00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:22.019 It smells so good. I hated cherry until I started messing with them and making 00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:24.239 them. And now I just freaking love them. 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:28.299 And that's a note that Paul and I –. 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.600 Actually really appreciating our bourbons as well. We're both big fans of, 00:33:32.600 --> 00:33:36.060 of old Forester and you get, you get you a glass of old Forester, 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.260 you're going to get some cherry and that's just all the way, 00:33:38.340 --> 00:33:39.640 you know, just the way it is. 00:33:39.760 --> 00:33:42.440 But, you know, going back to something that you said earlier, 00:33:42.780 --> 00:33:48.040 well, a train of thought that you had earlier with the, the care that you put 00:33:48.040 --> 00:33:52.540 into, you know, the, the, the oils and what have you. 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.620 I don't think we've had a number of people on this show and, 00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:01.760 and that, that make products and we respect all of them and they all make good products. 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:07.600 We, to, to, for full, full disclosure, we had one product on here that we thought was good. 00:34:08.040 --> 00:34:13.720 We later found out that it wasn't, we did a show after the fact to go back and 00:34:13.720 --> 00:34:18.080 basically trash that product because we, we gave it such a good review the first time. 00:34:18.220 --> 00:34:21.580 And then we were like, holy shit, this makes our face feel awful and nobody 00:34:21.580 --> 00:34:25.800 should buy this. So we made sure to let everybody know, do not buy this based on our recommendation. 00:34:26.240 --> 00:34:29.080 But everybody else we do our homework before we 00:34:29.080 --> 00:34:32.140 have people on but i don't think we've had anybody 00:34:32.140 --> 00:34:35.880 break it down quite so scientifically as far 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.540 as you know like you said rosemary extends the 00:34:38.540 --> 00:34:41.620 life of the oil and you've got you know don't don't you 00:34:41.620 --> 00:34:45.140 know what would you say orange oil or no what was it should never be in a beard 00:34:45.140 --> 00:34:51.240 oil by itself you said pumpkin there you go but you know once you combine it 00:34:51.240 --> 00:34:54.920 with others it enhances the performance of those other oils and things like 00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:01.080 that I don't think anybody's ever actually broke it down quite so granularly, 00:35:01.220 --> 00:35:08.420 which that should actually give our listeners some confidence in buying these 00:35:08.420 --> 00:35:14.520 products because this gentleman puts so much thought and care into the products 00:35:14.520 --> 00:35:15.340 that he's putting out there. 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.020 I'm sure the others that we've had on this show do as well. 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.200 In fact, I know they do, but just having 00:35:22.200 --> 00:35:25.120 that extra knowledge to throw out there for folks to 00:35:25.120 --> 00:35:30.140 hear that's you know that's that's awesome that's great that's uh i really enjoyed 00:35:30.140 --> 00:35:34.300 listening to that part of what you were saying yeah and you got it i mean i 00:35:34.300 --> 00:35:39.540 printed it out he has it listed on his website where the 15 herbs and the benefits 00:35:39.540 --> 00:35:44.160 for each one and i i printed it out because i'd never seen that before on anybody's site i was kind of. 00:35:44.660 --> 00:35:47.940 Interested going through a lot of things i didn't really you know 00:35:47.940 --> 00:35:51.120 you see it on the label a lot of times but you don't actually 00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:53.940 know what marshmallow root does and things 00:35:53.940 --> 00:35:59.180 like that so it's really interesting and you know informing and transparent 00:35:59.180 --> 00:36:03.140 and you know just i really like that that's probably that comprehensive list 00:36:03.140 --> 00:36:09.640 i mean if we were to use google ai or whatever to break down the full comprehensive 00:36:09.640 --> 00:36:13.340 list some of those herbs have 30 benefits. 00:36:14.932 --> 00:36:20.712 You know? So yeah, no, I wanted to be as transparent as possible because this 00:36:20.712 --> 00:36:23.632 is not something that really anybody else has done. 00:36:24.112 --> 00:36:27.352 To some degree, I've seen some products that have some infusion in it, 00:36:27.412 --> 00:36:29.452 but it's been like one or two, maybe three herbs. 00:36:30.052 --> 00:36:36.792 Yeah, no, this is, it is unique and, you know, it does come with a little bit of a hazard because, 00:36:36.972 --> 00:36:40.992 you know, if I go to DNC tomorrow and say, I want you to review my product, 00:36:41.172 --> 00:36:45.412 does he have the same response that you guys have where he gets that in his 00:36:45.412 --> 00:36:51.172 beard and his visceral reaction is well this smells like one guy said turkey 00:36:51.172 --> 00:36:54.652 dinner you know you said i remember what you said but, 00:36:55.172 --> 00:36:59.452 you have to get past that initial reaction and 00:36:59.452 --> 00:37:02.952 with the stuff i make it's it's you're reforming 00:37:02.952 --> 00:37:06.712 somebody's thought process on something that you're putting on your face a lot 00:37:06.712 --> 00:37:13.752 of these guys just go ooga and my face ooga smell good right i'm not you should 00:37:13.752 --> 00:37:19.552 see the chats i'm in with some of these guys does it smell strong yes i want 00:37:19.552 --> 00:37:21.812 to walk into a room and knock somebody over. 00:37:22.432 --> 00:37:32.072 Does my face not itch yes then i'm happy but there's a lot more to it you know there is a lot more to it. 00:37:32.292 --> 00:37:37.592 And a lot of, a lot of people don't realize how much more you can get benefit wise. 00:37:37.812 --> 00:37:42.592 But again, like I said, if I go hand a bottle to my daughter, 00:37:42.652 --> 00:37:48.632 who's got an acne flare up, or maybe one of them with essential oils, 00:37:48.852 --> 00:37:51.532 would I feel good to give her that bottle. 00:37:52.192 --> 00:37:55.572 Under conditions that maybe white labeling and oil? 00:37:55.892 --> 00:38:02.112 The answer would be no, I would never do that. but I know that she's going to get my oil. 00:38:02.332 --> 00:38:05.632 It's going to help her with her acne flare up for whatever reason. 00:38:06.612 --> 00:38:11.892 And I know that at the end of the day, what I am making for her is good for her. 00:38:13.123 --> 00:38:16.303 So baseline philosophy is that. 00:38:16.843 --> 00:38:22.643 Is what I'm making good for you? Does it have a benefit? The answer is yes. 00:38:23.303 --> 00:38:29.483 And just to give you a little bit more background on this, a bottle of oil from 00:38:29.483 --> 00:38:34.223 start to finish is very, very time consuming. 00:38:34.483 --> 00:38:40.063 If we were to look at how much per bottle this should cost me or I should charge 00:38:40.063 --> 00:38:44.603 based off what some other companies are, I should be in the $30 range per ounce. 00:38:45.723 --> 00:38:52.083 And I'm not. I charge a 20 bucks. I was going to get into that here in a second. I will shut up now. 00:38:53.843 --> 00:38:58.263 I was going to say, I don't want to lose my train of thought. 00:38:58.983 --> 00:39:02.623 The eczema treatment that you were making for your wife, is that something that 00:39:02.623 --> 00:39:05.183 you're offering? And I asked because my daughter has eczema. 00:39:05.883 --> 00:39:10.403 And I would love, oh, is that what that is? Okay. But I would love nothing more 00:39:10.403 --> 00:39:16.983 than to have something that is not full of bullshit, like what the doctors prescribe 00:39:16.983 --> 00:39:20.223 with all the chemicals that you can't pronounce and all that crap. 00:39:20.623 --> 00:39:24.843 So Jerry just put that up there. So that's awesome. I'll be looking for that, 00:39:25.003 --> 00:39:26.123 grabbing some of that for my daughter. 00:39:26.643 --> 00:39:29.883 Yeah, it's Herbal Salve, however you want to. 00:39:31.103 --> 00:39:34.503 And it's, what is this, two ounces for, I think it's 20 bucks too, 00:39:34.683 --> 00:39:35.743 if I remember correctly. 00:39:36.363 --> 00:39:41.023 And I remember when we were talking, when we were talking, you said you don't need much. 00:39:41.143 --> 00:39:44.463 And honestly, I've been using this almost every day. And like, 00:39:45.711 --> 00:39:49.631 eh, that might be what I use on my hands. That's a lot for my hands. 00:39:49.891 --> 00:39:51.311 This thing's going to last years. 00:39:51.671 --> 00:39:56.491 You don't use much. And it is a little different at first because you get used 00:39:56.491 --> 00:40:00.671 to the cortisone creams and this and that, all those chemically stuff. 00:40:00.851 --> 00:40:03.691 This is all oils and butters. 00:40:04.151 --> 00:40:09.091 And then your herbal stuff that's infused. So at first, it feels a little bit 00:40:09.091 --> 00:40:11.191 oily on your hands because it's oil. 00:40:11.371 --> 00:40:14.331 But it absorbs real well. I got bad 00:40:14.331 --> 00:40:18.111 ac or not acne bad eczema on my hands so 00:40:18.111 --> 00:40:21.071 I've been using this and it's definitely stopped the itch 00:40:21.071 --> 00:40:24.031 it's starting to fade like the little 00:40:24.031 --> 00:40:26.731 rough spots from the eczema and whatnot are starting to 00:40:26.731 --> 00:40:29.431 fade away and everything again it does have 00:40:29.431 --> 00:40:33.131 that herbal stuff in it plus I think you have a few more herbal 00:40:33.131 --> 00:40:36.271 ingredients that are infused in this one compared to the oils and 00:40:36.271 --> 00:40:39.731 it does have that that herbal smell but again 00:40:39.731 --> 00:40:43.031 it dissipates real quick and it just has like that base just 00:40:43.031 --> 00:40:46.771 neutral oil scent to it it's it's i've 00:40:46.771 --> 00:40:49.651 loved this thing like i said this two ounces i've 00:40:49.651 --> 00:40:52.451 used a little bit on my finger and it's gonna last 00:40:52.451 --> 00:40:55.571 me forever and i get to throw away all those other bullshit 00:40:55.571 --> 00:40:58.811 things that you find at cvs walgreens walmart everything 00:40:58.811 --> 00:41:01.691 else that seem to work but as soon as you stop using it 00:41:01.691 --> 00:41:05.051 your issues come back this this has 00:41:05.051 --> 00:41:08.471 been been great and like you said it hydrates the 00:41:08.471 --> 00:41:12.091 hands too it feels like like the hands feel smooth and working 00:41:12.091 --> 00:41:15.731 my hands every day and it's it's fantastic so 00:41:15.731 --> 00:41:20.431 yeah that's cool because i actually i was diagnosed with a certain type of eczema 00:41:20.431 --> 00:41:26.691 that only affects my feet which is gross because feet are disgusting and minor 00:41:26.691 --> 00:41:33.951 are no different but my daughter has eczema everywhere else and when i say everywhere but you You know. 00:41:34.271 --> 00:41:41.811 I, you know, it's on her arms and her face and things like that, you know, regardless. 00:41:42.751 --> 00:41:45.231 I'm going to place an order for some. 00:41:45.491 --> 00:41:49.431 How old is he? By chance? My daughter? Yeah. 00:41:50.366 --> 00:41:56.546 She's 11. So eczema is a broad thing. 00:41:56.726 --> 00:42:00.486 It can be quite a few different types. My wife had two different types. 00:42:00.886 --> 00:42:05.226 She had dishidrotic eczema, which is a type of, she gets like little water blisters 00:42:05.226 --> 00:42:07.146 on her hands. That's what I've got on my phone. 00:42:07.646 --> 00:42:13.126 Okay. That sucks, man. I'm so sorry to hear that. That is painful and horrible. It is. 00:42:13.686 --> 00:42:18.866 And, you know, not to get too deep into the weeds with it, but I went to Florida last year. 00:42:19.886 --> 00:42:24.506 Those little blisters had been there and they were not comfortable they were, 00:42:24.566 --> 00:42:29.826 itchy was the worst part of it and I was walking around on the sand and that 00:42:29.826 --> 00:42:32.766 sand just kind of tore them up it did. 00:42:33.926 --> 00:42:37.526 Tore them open basically but it was, 00:42:38.126 --> 00:42:47.586 it made it itch worse but then a good kind of way this feels great but at the same time but yeah, 00:42:47.706 --> 00:42:51.866 right now I've got three of them that have popped up on, on the bottom of my 00:42:51.866 --> 00:42:53.846 left foot. And I'm like, well, here we go again. 00:42:54.226 --> 00:42:57.906 So it's, it's good to know that, that there's something out there for that. 00:42:58.106 --> 00:43:00.906 I just placed the order. So you'll be seeing that come through. 00:43:01.546 --> 00:43:03.506 I saw the, I heard the ding. 00:43:07.506 --> 00:43:10.826 She's got, she's got dish hydronic, which is what you have. And then she's got 00:43:10.826 --> 00:43:15.026 like, look at the dry cracked skin on her hands. But, 00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:18.880 A couple of different things you can do to attack this. Okay. 00:43:19.260 --> 00:43:28.600 Obviously topical, but wormwood, wormwood tea, wormwood powder, red raspberry oil. 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:35.160 What? We said malort. I don't know if you've ever heard about that stuff or 00:43:35.160 --> 00:43:37.300 tried it. It's just wormwood. 00:43:39.180 --> 00:43:45.660 It's, it's the worst. It's a Chicago liqueur that the base, I don't know. 00:43:45.660 --> 00:43:49.160 The majority of it is Warmwood. 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:53.440 You won't taste it. If you buy the pill format, you won't. Oh, it tastes disgusting. 00:43:56.220 --> 00:43:58.860 I'm sure you've had Jägermeister in your life. Oh, yeah, for sure. 00:43:59.900 --> 00:44:04.740 This makes Jägermeister taste It makes it taste like that Macallan 12 they were drinking. 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:12.880 It's the nastiest. It's produced in Chicago, and it's something that the locals like to push on, 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.740 visitors as a joke and 00:44:16.740 --> 00:44:19.640 it's disgusting uh there's a uh there's a video out there 00:44:19.640 --> 00:44:23.800 it's a commercial if you just it's m-a-l-o-r-t 00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.940 is how you spell it if you just google malort commercial you're gonna find the 00:44:27.940 --> 00:44:31.800 funniest fucking thing that you've ever seen in your life and the guy is actually 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:37.800 a member of the family and he's drinking it and it's just awful it's it's just 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:41.740 awful i've got a bottle here so that i can when people come over to drink i 00:44:41.740 --> 00:44:42.860 can be like have you tried this, 00:44:43.520 --> 00:44:46.640 and then when they say no i'm like you got to try it i you 00:44:46.640 --> 00:44:49.660 know i say nothing else and then i wait for the reaction i just 00:44:49.660 --> 00:44:52.560 pulled up on youtube i will i will watch that when we're 00:44:52.560 --> 00:44:55.460 done you'll laugh you'll laugh so hard 00:44:55.460 --> 00:44:58.920 it's it's disgusting but anyway back to what you were saying about the wormwood 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:03.440 just super easy you can buy them a capsule format and that's what i would recommend 00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:11.700 or a tea capsule for you uh but then red raspberry oil and black seed oil if 00:45:11.700 --> 00:45:13.060 you take those three things. 00:45:14.213 --> 00:45:17.553 Lot of times eczema has a fungal or 00:45:17.553 --> 00:45:20.233 parasitic background that's the 00:45:20.233 --> 00:45:24.473 reason why it's there right if you attack that internally and externally at 00:45:24.473 --> 00:45:31.673 the same time you will have much fewer flare-ups so okay you said wormwood oil 00:45:31.673 --> 00:45:39.793 or wormwood red raspberry oil and black seed oil correct Or black human seed oil. The same thing. 00:45:40.873 --> 00:45:45.833 Human? Yep. And I have all three of those ingredients in my oil. 00:45:46.013 --> 00:45:52.193 That's actually, I put extra black seed and extra red raspberry oil along with 00:45:52.193 --> 00:45:56.793 wormwood and a few other extras in my eczema's health, which is why it works. 00:45:57.293 --> 00:46:02.933 See, it's funny, and not to get too into religion or what have you, 00:46:02.993 --> 00:46:06.553 but you told us the name of your children, which I'm guessing have religious 00:46:06.553 --> 00:46:09.253 connotations, and I can see the tattoo there on your arm, 00:46:10.313 --> 00:46:12.513 you know, the giant lion and things of that nature. 00:46:12.713 --> 00:46:17.373 So, you know, we don't need to get into religion except to say that it's funny 00:46:17.373 --> 00:46:21.473 that we felt like we could do it better than God, right? 00:46:21.613 --> 00:46:24.513 You know, all these things were put here for us. the natural 00:46:24.513 --> 00:46:27.373 things are out there but for some reason we 00:46:27.373 --> 00:46:30.593 felt like oh we need to synthesize and and add 00:46:30.593 --> 00:46:33.973 all this crap in there that shouldn't be in your body obviously 00:46:33.973 --> 00:46:37.773 you know they cause cancers and all these other things and for some reason we 00:46:37.773 --> 00:46:41.973 felt like we could do it better but they're they're out there and people people 00:46:41.973 --> 00:46:48.033 scoff at that whenever you say and i even my wife my wife was raised in a very 00:46:48.033 --> 00:46:53.673 strange offshoot of the christian religion that i won't get into because I'll put it this way. 00:46:53.873 --> 00:46:56.993 There's a documentary on Netflix about cults. 00:46:57.233 --> 00:47:04.553 And the guy that started the church that she was part of growing up is mentioned in that documentary. 00:47:04.713 --> 00:47:07.973 Send it to me when we're done with this conversation today. Okay. Okay. 00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:13.419 But, uh, that being said, you know, they, they, they use a lot of her, 00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:18.199 her mom, her sister, and they use a lot of honey and things like that when it 00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:23.139 comes to illnesses that I'm just like, I think I'll go ahead and take the chemicals. 00:47:23.279 --> 00:47:27.559 But at the same time, I'm, you know, here I am hypocritically saying, 00:47:27.819 --> 00:47:31.639 you know, we thought we could do it better than, you know, so the, 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.539 you know, honey has a lot of healing properties. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:47:35.819 --> 00:47:38.359 So, uh, cumin, you know, they're dairy. 00:47:38.839 --> 00:47:41.999 And then and then my wife she she mixes up this this 00:47:41.999 --> 00:47:44.799 shake with all these things in it and it turns purple when 00:47:44.799 --> 00:47:47.619 she mixes it all together and she's like you know 00:47:47.619 --> 00:47:50.579 she told me what all's in it and she's i'm gonna drink it every day it's 00:47:50.579 --> 00:47:54.119 got apple cider i don't even know what all's in it and she's like it's supposed 00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.539 to be good for your health and all this i'm just like i'll i'll find out you 00:47:58.539 --> 00:48:03.439 know through you i'm not i'll find out vicariously i i don't i don't want anything 00:48:03.439 --> 00:48:07.359 to do with it i smelled it i tasted a bit of it and i was like no i don't i 00:48:07.359 --> 00:48:09.259 don't want that but But regardless, 00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:14.279 the natural forms of these remedies are out there. 00:48:14.879 --> 00:48:19.219 It just seems like it's a lost knowledge. A lot of this is having to be rediscovered 00:48:19.219 --> 00:48:21.219 by folks like yourself, right? 00:48:21.419 --> 00:48:28.119 Where centuries ago, these were well-known. These were things that were used widely by everyone. 00:48:28.139 --> 00:48:30.919 And we didn't have all this synthesized madness. 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.999 Even going back to, this is a bourbon podcast too. 00:48:35.219 --> 00:48:37.899 We're talking about beer products today, but it's a bourbon podcast too. 00:48:37.899 --> 00:48:43.159 Going back to, there's the inventor of the ancestor of the Olympic still. 00:48:43.919 --> 00:48:49.999 She's known as Mary the Jewess. And she invented a type of still that was used 00:48:49.999 --> 00:48:56.199 to distill basically essential oils from herbs and whatnot to be used in medicine. 00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:58.319 And we've kind of gotten away from that. 00:48:58.439 --> 00:49:03.779 So it's cool that folks like yourself are rediscovering and awakening of sorts 00:49:03.779 --> 00:49:07.859 and putting that back out there because like I said, going back to my daughter, 00:49:08.019 --> 00:49:12.759 I would love to have something that works for her that isn't full of crap. 00:49:14.511 --> 00:49:20.191 If you guys have a conspiracy podcast, go look at how we went from natural plant-based 00:49:20.191 --> 00:49:25.891 medicine to oil-based medicine back to the turn of the 19th century or 20th century. 00:49:26.731 --> 00:49:33.771 We went from everything being natural to everything based on oil through the power of chemistry. 00:49:34.271 --> 00:49:37.891 That should be an interesting conspiracy for you guys to get into. 00:49:38.551 --> 00:49:41.171 John D. Rockefeller. Yeah. 00:49:42.451 --> 00:49:45.791 Yeah. Well, that's, you know what, if we want to get into the weeds with that 00:49:45.791 --> 00:49:50.811 one, you'll have to come, you'll have to come join Paul and I. 00:49:50.991 --> 00:49:52.791 Yeah, let's do it, man. I'd love to do that one. 00:49:54.171 --> 00:49:56.871 That's, that's a, that's a whole, that's a whole other conversation, 00:49:56.871 --> 00:49:59.891 but yeah, it's, I mean, it's just, it's great. It's great. 00:50:00.071 --> 00:50:03.731 That's, that's one thing that whenever we first started this show, 00:50:04.311 --> 00:50:08.391 one of the things that we really wanted, like Paul mentioned earlier was transparency. 00:50:08.391 --> 00:50:12.591 That we, we, you know, we, there's, there's too many products out there, 00:50:12.891 --> 00:50:16.791 whether it's deodorant or, or, or beer products or hair care or whatever, 00:50:16.971 --> 00:50:23.291 that are just full of these hugely long, you know, way too many syllables in the name, 00:50:23.691 --> 00:50:27.131 things you can't pronounce unless you're, you know, got a, a advanced degrees 00:50:27.131 --> 00:50:31.251 in chemistry and we, we, we, we shouldn't be putting that on our faces, 00:50:31.251 --> 00:50:33.631 on our heads, you know, on our bodies, period. 00:50:33.631 --> 00:50:40.311 You know, uh, some of these things I'll, I'll, I'll shut up after this and parent 00:50:40.311 --> 00:50:43.931 Michael and Jerry, but you know, a lot of, a lot of those chemicals are used 00:50:43.931 --> 00:50:46.071 in rodent control, right. 00:50:46.251 --> 00:50:50.191 To, uh, to, to, and so the other day I looked out back and my dog was, 00:50:50.311 --> 00:50:54.091 I've got, we've got rodent traps that are placed there by the pest control company 00:50:54.091 --> 00:50:59.571 and they're, they're little black boxes. And then you put the bait inside and they get locked. 00:50:59.711 --> 00:51:03.811 Well, I looked outside and my, my puppy was chewing on one of these damn things. 00:51:03.951 --> 00:51:05.631 So I ran out there and I grabbed it up from him. 00:51:05.951 --> 00:51:10.251 He's fine. He's fine. But on the outside of the box, it says, do not touch. 00:51:12.431 --> 00:51:16.771 The, the bait is inside the poison is inside, but it's telling me not to touch the outside. 00:51:16.951 --> 00:51:19.351 Of course, the first thing I did was grab it from him. Right. 00:51:19.471 --> 00:51:21.791 Cause he's got it in his mouth and I'm like, oh crap. 00:51:21.991 --> 00:51:27.051 Well, you know, hopefully he's okay, you know, but he doesn't have children to worry about. 00:51:27.151 --> 00:51:31.011 So hopefully I'm not going to die from touching this thing. So I put it up really 00:51:31.011 --> 00:51:34.611 high so he can't get back to it and ran inside and, and wash my hands. 00:51:34.731 --> 00:51:38.831 But a lot of those chemicals, not all of them, but a lot of them can be found 00:51:38.831 --> 00:51:41.851 in some form or another. and some of the things that we're putting on our bodies, 00:51:41.871 --> 00:51:43.231 it doesn't make any sense. 00:51:43.451 --> 00:51:46.151 And we've got the FDA saying, oh, it's fine. 00:51:46.631 --> 00:51:51.171 It's perfectly fine. You know, just like with, what was it, Red 40 that just got banned? Yeah. 00:51:51.731 --> 00:51:56.271 You know, oh, it's fine for however long, 50 years they've been telling us that's 00:51:56.271 --> 00:51:58.851 okay, and, you know, maybe longer. 00:51:59.111 --> 00:52:03.131 And now they're like, oh, it's not okay. You know, it took somebody that everybody 00:52:03.131 --> 00:52:06.511 says is a lunatic saying, you shouldn't put this into your body, 00:52:06.771 --> 00:52:11.091 you know, RFK Jr., And for them to say, well, we're not going to, 00:52:11.211 --> 00:52:12.171 we're, we're going to ban this. 00:52:12.511 --> 00:52:15.811 Europe's had that ban for a long time. And a lot of the chemicals that we have 00:52:15.811 --> 00:52:20.391 in these beer products, not yours, obviously, but some of them have been banned 00:52:20.391 --> 00:52:22.091 in Europe for a very long time. 00:52:22.351 --> 00:52:26.631 That's, I mean, that's, that's a problem. That's, that's a problem for me because 00:52:26.631 --> 00:52:32.131 for a long time, I've looked at Europe as kind of a odd entity, 00:52:32.391 --> 00:52:33.751 you know, especially the European union. 00:52:33.891 --> 00:52:36.611 There's a lot of weird stuff going on there, but a lot of what 00:52:36.611 --> 00:52:39.951 they allow on their food and their their product you know 00:52:39.951 --> 00:52:42.811 they've got they've got a lot of things right as far as that's concerned and 00:52:42.811 --> 00:52:48.691 we would do well in this country to take note and and follow their example well 00:52:48.691 --> 00:52:52.671 as nutty as california is at times they ban a lot of stuff that's bad for you 00:52:52.671 --> 00:52:57.291 too you know true that's weird but true it's weird. 00:53:00.471 --> 00:53:05.391 Anyway yeah no i you know all great points man i mean i think but i think it 00:53:05.391 --> 00:53:10.571 all boils down to what we've been kind of trained to think is okay, right? 00:53:10.791 --> 00:53:16.771 My wife was trained to think that it was okay for her to put a topical steroid 00:53:16.771 --> 00:53:21.691 on her hands to control her issues with her hands. Obviously, there was a better way. 00:53:22.271 --> 00:53:27.651 Have you seen what can happen to topical steroids to somebody if it decides 00:53:27.651 --> 00:53:30.651 to go ballistic on the human body? 00:53:30.951 --> 00:53:37.791 It could do some bad things. A woman, I've seen pictures of women that had eczema 00:53:37.791 --> 00:53:40.191 like my wife using topless steroids. 00:53:40.391 --> 00:53:44.851 All of a sudden, they're growing hair on your face on their hands. 00:53:46.856 --> 00:53:53.016 Yeah, that's not good. Right? That's not going to happen. Even having such severe 00:53:53.016 --> 00:53:54.716 reactions that they have to get hospitalized. 00:53:55.716 --> 00:54:01.116 Yeah. It's ridiculous. And there's a better way, right? There's a better way to do things. 00:54:02.776 --> 00:54:05.596 That's right. That's kind of like what we were talking about earlier, 00:54:05.616 --> 00:54:08.716 and I meant to bring this up when we were talking about it, and it was before 00:54:08.716 --> 00:54:10.556 we started recording, but we were talking about Ozempic. 00:54:11.176 --> 00:54:13.996 One of the things I was listening to a doctor the other day talked about that, 00:54:14.556 --> 00:54:16.536 how it also affects muscle mass. 00:54:17.796 --> 00:54:22.796 And a lot of people forget that your heart is a muscle. It's muscle tissue, the whole thing. 00:54:23.536 --> 00:54:30.036 So that's problematic right there, right? There's natural ways to lose weight in some people. 00:54:30.636 --> 00:54:35.836 Maybe they can't. They can't. They've tried everything and they've really given it the college try. 00:54:35.956 --> 00:54:39.056 But I see a lot of videos of people that are out there. 00:54:39.356 --> 00:54:42.516 They're very, very, you know, 400, 500 pounds. 00:54:42.516 --> 00:54:47.076 And they're jumping back into the gym and watching what they eat and not going 00:54:47.076 --> 00:54:53.456 to McDonald's, which is, you know, you can put that stuff sitting out on the 00:54:53.456 --> 00:54:54.656 counter for three years. 00:54:54.656 --> 00:54:58.056 And it's going to look exactly the same way as it did when you bought it. Oh, yeah. 00:54:58.656 --> 00:55:03.856 You know, very hypocritical in this because I had three McChickens yesterday. 00:55:07.476 --> 00:55:11.656 I can't help it. I love them. So, but regardless, you know, there, 00:55:11.656 --> 00:55:13.236 there's a better way. There's a better way. 00:55:13.376 --> 00:55:18.316 And, and, and, you know, I'm glad to see you putting that into the care that 00:55:18.316 --> 00:55:21.476 you put into your products, which is how this all started. So. 00:55:21.936 --> 00:55:26.076 Hey everyone, Jerry here. Thanks for listening to part one with Jacob from Bain Blends. 00:55:26.536 --> 00:55:30.776 Tune in later this week for part two. But while you wait, head on over to BainBlends.com. 00:55:30.916 --> 00:55:37.156 It's B-A-I-N-B-L-E-N-D-S.com to pick up some of their fantastic beer products. 00:55:37.156 --> 00:55:42.216 And if you listen this far, use code BBB15, that's three B's and. 00:55:43.440 --> 00:56:34.000 Music. 00:56:35.271 --> 00:56:38.431 Bourbon Beards and Belvederes is produced by Adam Bolden, Paul Rousseau, 00:56:38.691 --> 00:56:42.151 and Jerry Ullman. Editing by Adam Bolden. Music by Ryan Johnson. 00:56:42.571 --> 00:56:43.911 You can find the links to all our 00:56:43.911 --> 00:56:47.291 social media accounts on our website at bourbonbeardsandbelvederes.com. 00:56:47.651 --> 00:56:51.091 As always, enjoy your bourbon and cigars responsibly. Cheers.

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