Episode Six Part 1

October 17, 2025

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Adam, Paul, and Jerry sit down with John and Tanya of Beard Apothecary to trace the brand's origins, product development, and high-quality ingredients behind their beard oils, whipped butter, washes, and upcoming tattoo balm.

The relaxed episode mixes thoughtful product impressions with whiskey and cigar pairings, community stories, and lively music and concert tangents for a fun, lifestyle-focused conversation.

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WEBVTT 00:00:11.129 --> 00:00:16.829 You're listening to Bourbon Beards and Velveteers, the podcast where whiskey, 00:00:17.209 --> 00:00:21.569 cigars, and beard products aren't just a hobby. They're a lifestyle. 00:00:21.889 --> 00:00:26.269 Hosted by Adam, Paul, and Jerry, three guys with real experience, 00:00:26.629 --> 00:00:29.449 full beards, and even fuller glasses. 00:00:29.989 --> 00:00:34.449 Each episode serves up thoughtful tastings, laid-back cigar talk, 00:00:34.549 --> 00:00:38.009 and honest takes on beard gear and beyond. 00:00:38.009 --> 00:00:43.689 From top shelf pours to everyday essentials, this is the place where conversations 00:00:43.689 --> 00:00:46.049 flow as smooth as the whiskey. 00:00:46.429 --> 00:00:50.849 So, pour a glass, light one up, and enjoy the ride. 00:00:51.129 --> 00:00:54.709 This is Bourbon Beards and Belvederes. 00:01:08.006 --> 00:01:12.566 Welcome to Bourbon Beards and Belvedeers, I'm Adam And I'm Paul And I'm Jerry, 00:01:13.066 --> 00:01:16.986 And today we got some very special guests on with us We're not going to be doing 00:01:16.986 --> 00:01:22.806 reviews of cigars and whiskey today We'll just be drinking and smoking, 00:01:22.866 --> 00:01:28.646 whatever we feel like But I'm going to turn it over to our guests so they can tell us who they are. 00:01:30.526 --> 00:01:36.486 She's so good, she hates me so much I'm John, this is my wife Tanya We are owners of Beard Apothecary. 00:01:36.686 --> 00:01:41.906 It's a full-service beard company for all your beard needs. 00:01:42.906 --> 00:01:48.606 Very cool. So just like always, we are starting with a palate warmer just to 00:01:48.606 --> 00:01:51.246 get the show started. So let's start with the guests. 00:01:51.746 --> 00:01:54.746 John, what are you drinking there? Tanya, are you drinking anything? 00:01:54.906 --> 00:01:56.706 And if not, then we'll just leave it with John. 00:01:57.186 --> 00:02:01.686 I'm going full on with the, I popped the Penelope Cigar Session 1, 00:02:01.686 --> 00:02:05.786 and I'm pairing it right now with a Dissident Plasmatic. 00:02:06.526 --> 00:02:09.826 Very nice. Very nice. Top left is Jerry. What do you got? 00:02:10.046 --> 00:02:14.046 I started out with a Chattanooga Whiskey, the Cabernet Finished, 00:02:14.246 --> 00:02:18.566 straight malt whiskey, 95 proof, just their yearly release. 00:02:18.966 --> 00:02:21.746 And then I got a few other things to go through throughout the night. 00:02:21.846 --> 00:02:26.466 I got a Penelope Takai Kask and then a Still Austin Cast Strength Bourbon over there. 00:02:26.866 --> 00:02:31.346 Finishing up a Dissident Rave Cigar. And then I got a Stolen Thrones, 00:02:31.566 --> 00:02:35.786 Three Kingdoms on deck once this one goes out. 00:02:36.306 --> 00:02:41.026 All right. Well, starting off this episode with some Rebel 106 here. 00:02:41.366 --> 00:02:45.406 Just did kind of a Rebel blind pasting here a few minutes ago, 00:02:45.446 --> 00:02:50.206 and these Rebel ports are pretty fantastic. High performers, definitely. 00:02:51.505 --> 00:02:54.665 Yeah, so last week we had a hell 00:02:54.665 --> 00:02:57.405 of a revelation with this little rebel that's sitting here next to me, 00:02:57.445 --> 00:03:06.985 and I still didn't get the cork situation fixed, but we came back to learn a love of rebel again. 00:03:06.985 --> 00:03:11.825 That's some damn good shit, and I'm interested to see what you think about that, 00:03:12.005 --> 00:03:16.565 what you got in your glass there, Paul, because I'm going to have to look for that bottle. Let's go. 00:03:17.745 --> 00:03:22.925 All right. So to get started, could you tell us a little bit about your company, 00:03:23.145 --> 00:03:27.225 maybe give us a little insight behind the name of the company, how it got started? 00:03:27.905 --> 00:03:33.065 You know, maybe a little insight into yourselves, that kind of thing, if you don't mind. 00:03:33.665 --> 00:03:39.905 Yeah. And our story is kind of easy. I spent 25 years in corrections back in 00:03:39.905 --> 00:03:45.145 Connecticut and I did a whole bunch of gang intel for my entire career. 00:03:45.145 --> 00:03:46.725 That was kind of my whole dig. 00:03:46.925 --> 00:03:50.705 And I retired in 2019 and we moved down here to South Carolina. 00:03:51.365 --> 00:03:54.385 And Tani had the hardest job of all. She was raising her three demons. 00:03:54.765 --> 00:04:01.245 And my boys got, my kids are 24, 26, and 28. I got three sons. They're our world. 00:04:01.685 --> 00:04:04.685 And she had, her job was by far the hardest. 00:04:05.125 --> 00:04:09.805 And so we got down here and we started doing our thing here. And it was COVID hit. 00:04:10.005 --> 00:04:13.485 That's when I started. I've been smoking for probably three. 00:04:14.326 --> 00:04:19.086 30 years almost. And so it was, it really ramped up. 00:04:19.186 --> 00:04:24.506 I thought I smoked boutique cigars until I'd met some guys from one of the cigar clubs that I was in. 00:04:24.766 --> 00:04:28.446 And I was like, holy shit, I don't know what a boutique is. And these guys are 00:04:28.446 --> 00:04:30.206 smoking some next level stuff. 00:04:30.406 --> 00:04:32.966 And that kind of started my journey into it. 00:04:33.466 --> 00:04:37.566 And I started throwing my beard out in 2020. I always had a long goatee. 00:04:38.226 --> 00:04:40.946 And tiny is sitting down here we i had a 00:04:40.946 --> 00:04:43.586 job from home and she was kind of 00:04:43.586 --> 00:04:46.366 watching while i was doing the job and i said to her like bro 00:04:46.366 --> 00:04:48.826 you gotta get you gotta do something you're killing me because she was like 00:04:48.826 --> 00:04:51.926 telling me what i'm missing as i'm watching this stuff happen like you're missing 00:04:51.926 --> 00:04:55.746 this you're missing that and i'm like no no no get it you need to do something 00:04:55.746 --> 00:05:01.506 so she ended up getting a candle kit candle making kit and she created npc candle 00:05:01.506 --> 00:05:05.926 company and that's where she started little, probably 20, end of 21, 00:05:06.226 --> 00:05:08.546 going into 22, she started a candle company. 00:05:08.926 --> 00:05:12.846 And apparently everybody else did that as well. So there was like, 00:05:13.066 --> 00:05:15.106 there were just candle companies popping up left and right. 00:05:15.466 --> 00:05:19.646 And one afternoon I'm on a hearth with a bunch of, a bunch of the guys. 00:05:19.766 --> 00:05:23.106 And this new guy comes in who I'd never met before. And he's just, 00:05:23.226 --> 00:05:26.386 we're just going, he's a big personality and we're just bullshitting. 00:05:26.566 --> 00:05:31.006 And, and said, yeah, I'm trying to take the, sugar mama wrote and said, 00:05:31.046 --> 00:05:35.006 my wife's got a candle company and I'm hoping she's going to be hit it big with 00:05:35.006 --> 00:05:36.706 that and I can retire and just smoke cigars. 00:05:37.086 --> 00:05:39.486 And he holds up a candle and he goes like this. And I was like, 00:05:39.546 --> 00:05:41.166 bro, that's my wife's candle. How'd you get it? 00:05:41.466 --> 00:05:46.606 So that started the conversation and he's quickly turned into one of my best 00:05:46.606 --> 00:05:49.466 friends as we've had conversations over the last couple of years. 00:05:49.666 --> 00:05:52.786 And he kind of helped us start the whole thing as the baby was getting longer. 00:05:52.926 --> 00:05:55.826 He's like, bro, you probably should start using some oil or something in that thing. 00:05:56.466 --> 00:05:59.226 And I'm like, what are you even talking about? Like if it was in the bathtub 00:05:59.226 --> 00:06:02.186 and she had it in the shower, that's what I used to wash my beard. Like I. 00:06:02.884 --> 00:06:05.564 Had no idea and you know i just comb it 00:06:05.564 --> 00:06:08.684 out and then they get all bushy and crazy and so 00:06:08.684 --> 00:06:11.564 she started making oils for me and then it just expanded from 00:06:11.564 --> 00:06:14.944 there and that's pretty much the i mean it was it was a very simple evolution 00:06:14.944 --> 00:06:18.044 the guys from the cigar community were absolutely phenomenal they're they're 00:06:18.044 --> 00:06:21.124 probably our biggest supporters of the company and 00:06:21.124 --> 00:06:24.684 it's just it's i mean it kind of goes hand in hand with the beards and 00:06:24.684 --> 00:06:29.604 the cigars so it's been it's been a whirlwind to say the least over the last 00:06:29.604 --> 00:06:34.904 year and change because we're about a year in right a year and a half i can't 00:06:34.904 --> 00:06:38.424 remember anymore almost two years and now is it really yeah it's almost two 00:06:38.424 --> 00:06:44.424 years so news to me and we started the journey two years ago yeah but it's been a lot of time is, 00:06:45.284 --> 00:06:49.504 extremely thorough so whenever she puts her mind to okay this is what we're 00:06:49.504 --> 00:06:55.084 going to do next for for a product it's going to be researched like crazy tested 00:06:55.084 --> 00:06:58.104 like crazy we've got our crash test dummies they're a core group of my friends 00:06:58.104 --> 00:07:00.744 that will get the samples and get to try them out and. 00:07:01.244 --> 00:07:05.484 They will uh you know do the like dislike kind of thing add this take this out 00:07:05.484 --> 00:07:10.064 guys have been the guys have been all involved in all the different sense we've 00:07:10.064 --> 00:07:14.524 had a lot of the names that we've had with them the guys have been involved 00:07:14.524 --> 00:07:17.464 and all that a huge huge part of it, 00:07:17.924 --> 00:07:22.404 so it's been it's been uh it's been a labor of love for sure you know working 00:07:22.404 --> 00:07:25.424 with everybody and then, you know, just checking out and just seeing some of 00:07:25.424 --> 00:07:26.744 the things that are out there. 00:07:26.944 --> 00:07:31.184 And, you know, there's, there's so much amazing content and products. 00:07:31.284 --> 00:07:34.604 And it's like, man, how are we going to, how are we going to make our kind of 00:07:34.604 --> 00:07:39.384 our mark in this, in this world? And as far as it goes with the beard stuff, 00:07:39.484 --> 00:07:41.124 cause there are some incredible companies out there. 00:07:41.324 --> 00:07:45.624 And so it's, I put it all back on what she's been doing with just how hard she 00:07:45.624 --> 00:07:50.664 goes into researching and putting the best materials in it and keeping it a competitive price. And. 00:07:51.145 --> 00:07:53.925 Getting it out there. So it's been, it's, it's been fun. 00:07:54.065 --> 00:07:58.065 I mean, when we, when we were about to launch the business, we had a meetup 00:07:58.065 --> 00:07:59.705 at a place called Ansteads up 00:07:59.705 --> 00:08:02.205 in North Carolina with a bunch of guys from one of the clubs that I'm in. 00:08:02.585 --> 00:08:06.345 And the night before she's up until like one o'clock in the morning, 00:08:06.485 --> 00:08:08.325 just packing bags. I'm like, what are you doing? She's like, 00:08:08.385 --> 00:08:10.245 don't you worry about it. Go to bed. I'll sleep in a car. 00:08:10.585 --> 00:08:14.665 So she slept in the car and we got up there and had about eight of us, 00:08:14.765 --> 00:08:16.845 nine of us sitting around and she stops everything. 00:08:17.005 --> 00:08:20.005 She hands out little samplers six 00:08:20.005 --> 00:08:23.325 samples and she gives them to everybody and she said pick 00:08:23.325 --> 00:08:26.285 your favorite and she wrote everything down and the top four 00:08:26.285 --> 00:08:31.085 became our core line and then the next one came down to that was like they had 00:08:31.085 --> 00:08:35.285 no idea what they were smelling they had no information whatsoever what would 00:08:35.285 --> 00:08:39.985 you wear every day and that it was it was fantastic it was it was complete took 00:08:39.985 --> 00:08:43.645 me completely by surprise i was actually testing them along with the guys and 00:08:43.645 --> 00:08:45.565 then it's just been little things here and there. 00:08:45.645 --> 00:08:50.565 She did a collab with a friend of ours, retired army, and he had a specific scent that he wanted. 00:08:50.805 --> 00:08:55.205 So she went, she made the oil and everything. It was a small batch, loved it. 00:08:55.565 --> 00:08:58.725 She made it into a full butter and oil for him. 00:08:58.865 --> 00:09:01.825 And some of the guys were smelling it and they're like, yo, we want this. 00:09:01.925 --> 00:09:03.925 Now that's our BG grunts. 00:09:04.445 --> 00:09:08.605 That one was born. And then I've got a very good friend of mine, Bernie. 00:09:08.985 --> 00:09:12.145 He's out of Pittsburgh and Bernie's been huge and just helping out. 00:09:12.205 --> 00:09:13.685 He's got these crazy ideas for sense. 00:09:13.845 --> 00:09:16.665 So he'll always send it to Tanya. We'll try some different things out. 00:09:16.805 --> 00:09:22.385 And he actually came up with our Irish goodbye that we did for our special for St. Patrick's Day. 00:09:22.805 --> 00:09:26.285 And we named it after Bernie, because if anybody knows him, you know, 00:09:26.405 --> 00:09:29.045 you'll be sitting here like this and all of a sudden he's just gone. 00:09:29.225 --> 00:09:32.565 I don't know how he does it. It's like magic. He literally just disappears. 00:09:32.765 --> 00:09:35.265 There could be three people on and Bernie's gone and no one saw him leave. 00:09:35.465 --> 00:09:38.085 So he got named, it was named the Irish goodbye for him. 00:09:39.010 --> 00:09:43.070 So we're trying to do those scents as we're going along, just kind of the seasonal drops. 00:09:43.370 --> 00:09:48.330 We did our daddy-o, which I believe you guys have. The daddy-o was done for Father's Day. 00:09:48.370 --> 00:09:52.210 And that kind of reminds me of the Hawaiian Tropic suntan lotion that it just 00:09:52.210 --> 00:09:54.070 kind of like the... Nostalgia. Yeah. 00:09:54.410 --> 00:09:56.490 And that was supposed to be just for Father's Day. 00:09:56.950 --> 00:10:00.710 And we extended it for the summer and it was still going. So we just kept it 00:10:00.710 --> 00:10:03.570 right in the core line because it's just got a great feel to it. 00:10:04.050 --> 00:10:08.150 It's been fun then. And then we started doing, I bought a t-shirt press. 00:10:08.330 --> 00:10:15.250 So we've been doing, I've added t-shirts to it. We do the t-shirts for all the special edition ones. 00:10:16.070 --> 00:10:19.910 We just did the mustache wax. Yep, that came out. 00:10:20.530 --> 00:10:24.350 That just came out. And then we have coming out next, I'm so excited about it. 00:10:24.790 --> 00:10:27.550 We have Ever Inked Tattoo Bomb. 00:10:28.030 --> 00:10:34.450 Nice. And it is completely all natural, nut free, safe for fresh tattoos. 00:10:35.270 --> 00:10:39.930 You know, older tattoos, moisturize them, brighten them back up. 00:10:40.410 --> 00:10:45.590 So this is our, I'm just waiting on the label and then we're going to release it. 00:10:45.830 --> 00:10:49.550 So I'm super excited about that. Best thing to come out of this is now I got 00:10:49.550 --> 00:10:51.470 to go get another tattoo to make sure I can test it. 00:10:52.010 --> 00:10:54.290 So I'll test it on a fresh tattoo shortly. 00:10:56.230 --> 00:11:00.290 But yeah, that was, uh, that was kind of a, again, it was just like a happy accident. 00:11:00.470 --> 00:11:03.530 We were just on a hearth one day and she's always out here with me she'll come 00:11:03.530 --> 00:11:07.130 out down the guy's lower to death this is everybody's favorite aldi all right 00:11:07.130 --> 00:11:10.790 there's there's a hashtag tanya's our favorite aldi no matter where i am there 00:11:10.790 --> 00:11:14.590 it is right there thank you joe and it goes into it yeah and there's larry. 00:11:15.970 --> 00:11:18.450 It's it's without coming in spelled it right yeah. 00:11:19.359 --> 00:11:25.119 That is my favorite Aldi. So Larry is who, he's the one. The moose. Yes. 00:11:25.719 --> 00:11:29.459 That's where the moose stash wax. Stash wax. Yes. So we named it after him. 00:11:29.579 --> 00:11:32.679 He was, he was instrumental in helping us put it together. 00:11:33.179 --> 00:11:38.039 And Larry spent nights of just getting different mustache wax, 00:11:38.259 --> 00:11:40.519 trying different brands and trying a whole bunch of different things. 00:11:40.659 --> 00:11:44.599 And then put, then we would, he would send me stuff and I don't do the whole 00:11:44.599 --> 00:11:46.539 mustache thing. I don't have the patience for that. 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:50.239 I haven't, it's enough just to do what I do. and i'm helpful 00:11:50.239 --> 00:11:53.119 as far as like texture because we didn't john doesn't use 00:11:53.119 --> 00:11:56.039 it and we weren't sure i wasn't sure exactly what 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.879 texture it needed to be so larry you know 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.779 we did a face-to-face and you know 00:12:01.779 --> 00:12:04.679 he showed us all of that so he was huge help 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.419 so that's named after larry you know it's 00:12:07.419 --> 00:12:11.019 funny that you uh the the the name irish could 00:12:11.019 --> 00:12:14.359 buy and the reasoning for it because i was looking up the various 00:12:14.359 --> 00:12:17.039 products on your website and i noticed that it's conveniently out of 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:22.159 stock uh the average goodbye it will it will be back it will be back for next 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:25.179 saint patrick's day we are we are planning on bringing that one back that one 00:12:25.179 --> 00:12:29.119 sold out that surprised the hell out of us that one sold out really fast and 00:12:29.119 --> 00:12:34.119 all i got out of it was a little sampler that was it and then the shirt then 00:12:34.119 --> 00:12:36.479 she did the shirts and i'm all about fucking dark, 00:12:36.979 --> 00:12:42.999 demons destruction all that kind of stuff and she made this killer shirt this fucking badass, 00:12:43.499 --> 00:12:46.439 leprechaun demon on the back of it. They had to get one of those either. 00:12:48.359 --> 00:12:51.899 Everybody else knows. The good news is you know where it comes from. 00:12:52.059 --> 00:12:55.679 So you know how to get it if you really want to. But yeah, I noticed that was 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:57.899 conveniently out of stock. And I'm fairly... 00:12:58.465 --> 00:13:01.245 Heavily tattooed myself so i look forward to getting some of 00:13:01.245 --> 00:13:04.085 that tattoo balm i'm currently working on 00:13:04.085 --> 00:13:07.605 on a leg sleeve so i'll 00:13:07.605 --> 00:13:10.645 have i'll have plenty of reason to use it no john 00:13:10.645 --> 00:13:13.705 is fully covered just about in tattoos hands 00:13:13.705 --> 00:13:16.605 down thank god i only got two knees because that was 00:13:16.605 --> 00:13:19.305 absolutely i had both my knees done and it was 00:13:19.305 --> 00:13:22.365 horrible my head was the worst my head 00:13:22.365 --> 00:13:25.825 was the worst i've got yeah you 00:13:25.825 --> 00:13:29.205 took you turned a little bit too much but that was six 00:13:29.205 --> 00:13:32.125 hours of my buddy just sitting and 00:13:32.125 --> 00:13:35.645 drilling on my head and i thought in several several 00:13:35.645 --> 00:13:38.665 occasions i was going to run through the wall of his booth because 00:13:38.665 --> 00:13:41.265 it just my legs were just trying like hell to get 00:13:41.265 --> 00:13:44.145 me the off the table it was everything i could do to lay there it was 00:13:44.145 --> 00:13:47.085 miserable but my knees the knees were 00:13:47.085 --> 00:13:49.765 just as he's doing it he's doing the side of my leg and i'm 00:13:49.765 --> 00:13:52.625 like oh that's nice i was falling asleep through my thigh and all that 00:13:52.625 --> 00:13:55.425 and i'm like all the adrenaline's gone and now he wants 00:13:55.425 --> 00:13:58.805 to start the knee and i'm like bro can we start the fucking knee at first 00:13:58.805 --> 00:14:01.905 when i'm jacked up i'm like i'm protein shake and 00:14:01.905 --> 00:14:04.925 fucking energy drink i'm like let's go and he starts on the side of the leg 00:14:04.925 --> 00:14:08.205 and then we go down across the knee i'm like we're starting there first next 00:14:08.205 --> 00:14:13.085 time please because yeah i swear the older we get the worse it the more it hurts 00:14:13.085 --> 00:14:18.425 oh it was yeah yeah yeah the last one i got was on my shin pretty much exclusively 00:14:18.425 --> 00:14:21.825 i mean there's a good deal of it that goes over onto my calves and whatnot, 00:14:21.865 --> 00:14:24.265 but the majority of it just straight up and down my shit. 00:14:24.545 --> 00:14:27.085 My shins were, I had no issues on my shins whatsoever. 00:14:27.505 --> 00:14:32.065 It was, it was not nearly as bad as my head. That's for damn sure. 00:14:32.185 --> 00:14:35.025 But it wasn't the most comfortable tattoo that I've ever had. So. 00:14:35.806 --> 00:14:40.406 Uh, yeah. So Jerry, I know you've got a big list of questions there, 00:14:40.546 --> 00:14:41.806 so I'm going to turn it over to you. 00:14:42.446 --> 00:14:45.666 Yeah, we'll, uh, kind of get into the products here first. 00:14:45.946 --> 00:14:50.086 I ended up buying the beard oil and a beard butter sample kit, 00:14:50.506 --> 00:14:56.746 split it up between the guys, comes with the Cheeky Chops, Sirens Call, Stogies, and Mug Rug. 00:14:57.146 --> 00:15:04.066 And if I remember correctly, I split up Cheeky Chops between the three of us. I kept the Sirens Call. 00:15:04.726 --> 00:15:10.686 I think i sent adam to stogie's and paul got mug rug if i think i got that right you guys want to, 00:15:11.386 --> 00:15:14.946 see what you guys said about or think about that product because honestly it 00:15:14.946 --> 00:15:19.726 it's definitely one of my favorites over the last uh year that we've been doing 00:15:19.726 --> 00:15:22.366 some things and it's uh it's up there with one of my favorite products that 00:15:22.366 --> 00:15:26.146 i've ever used and i am out of the little half ounce sample 00:15:26.586 --> 00:15:32.486 oil i do still have some butter and i am definitely going to be grabbing something 00:15:32.486 --> 00:15:37.406 i don't know which product, but this sirens call is right up my alley with that sent profile. 00:15:38.732 --> 00:15:43.292 It's a little bit cologne-esque. It's a little bit citrusy, a little bit fruity. It's nice. 00:15:44.052 --> 00:15:47.272 So that was originally, so one of the original names of that one was, 00:15:47.352 --> 00:15:50.012 you know, we tried, the guys all tried to get it called the Panty Dropper, 00:15:50.492 --> 00:15:52.372 but Tiny was not having that. 00:15:52.692 --> 00:15:57.012 So she is our voice of reason, because if you let me and the crew do our thing, 00:15:57.292 --> 00:15:59.872 there would be some ridiculously heinous names for that. 00:16:00.052 --> 00:16:03.412 But yeah, so that's where the sign, Tiny calls that the Date Night one. 00:16:03.872 --> 00:16:05.212 Oh, it's a fantastic smell. 00:16:05.692 --> 00:16:08.612 That one and uh if you like that one you probably would like 00:16:08.612 --> 00:16:11.952 bougie grunt which is kind of on like smells like 00:16:11.952 --> 00:16:15.252 the chanel blue for men so 00:16:15.252 --> 00:16:20.392 they're both they're both like a cologne yeah that was the other one i was looking 00:16:20.392 --> 00:16:23.872 at i'll probably end up grabbing both of them but definitely one if not the 00:16:23.872 --> 00:16:30.732 other if not both so what'd you guys think about it yeah the mug rug i really 00:16:30.732 --> 00:16:33.432 like it's very It's musky smell, 00:16:34.772 --> 00:16:42.612 Really like it I'm not a huge beard butter guy I don't use that I use oil all the time But the balm. 00:16:44.152 --> 00:16:49.072 I've used the hell out of this one I really like it Existency is not greasy 00:16:49.072 --> 00:16:54.572 Which a lot tend to be And I really like the product for that Choochoo Chops, 00:16:54.752 --> 00:16:59.232 the other one That Jerry sent out That scent's awesome. 00:17:00.698 --> 00:17:06.978 I think I prefer the cheeky chop scent over the mug rug, but the mug rug is kind of unique. 00:17:07.078 --> 00:17:09.098 So I've been using more of that, to be honest. 00:17:09.278 --> 00:17:11.558 So I really like the products. 00:17:12.518 --> 00:17:16.078 The scents are great. And that was one of the biggest things that she worked 00:17:16.078 --> 00:17:19.478 on was she saw, like, I had a couple different samples from friends of mine 00:17:19.478 --> 00:17:21.378 who were sending me stuff and they're like, dude, try this. 00:17:21.458 --> 00:17:25.478 And I was trying it. Like I tried the, like the pomade and the balm and I'm 00:17:25.478 --> 00:17:27.438 like, man, it's like, it's like, it's like a shield. 00:17:27.598 --> 00:17:31.218 Yeah. You know, I hate that feeling. Like, so then I saw some of them and they 00:17:31.218 --> 00:17:33.558 were super oily. Well, that's like, yeah, no. 00:17:33.918 --> 00:17:40.438 We had ordered a few from some bigger companies of butters because John never used them. 00:17:40.638 --> 00:17:46.618 And the texture was just like lotion, kind of like a weird sticky texture. 00:17:46.978 --> 00:17:51.998 So that was, I wanted ours to be, I worked really, really hard on figuring out 00:17:51.998 --> 00:17:53.118 how to make it not greasy. 00:17:54.078 --> 00:17:57.418 And the biggest difference with ours is that it's whipped. 00:17:57.418 --> 00:18:00.678 And that's what gives it that consistency so that 00:18:00.678 --> 00:18:03.418 it's hard like harder when you're taking it out and it melts right 00:18:03.418 --> 00:18:07.198 away in your hands it's not greasy john will put the rest like on his you know 00:18:07.198 --> 00:18:13.018 his shaved head or his arms soaks right in i'm really super proud proud of our 00:18:13.018 --> 00:18:17.598 beard butter like yeah no really like it it's it you hit it it's not heavy and 00:18:17.598 --> 00:18:22.498 it's not greasy and a lot of a lot of them are and that's why i don't tend to use them as much but 00:18:22.918 --> 00:18:25.118 But, yeah, no, I mean, it's great evident right now. 00:18:25.138 --> 00:18:27.918 It's, you know, it's not heavy. It's not greasy at all. 00:18:28.038 --> 00:18:31.558 I mean, I put it on a couple hours ago, and it's not coming off my hands. 00:18:32.647 --> 00:18:35.607 Tells me that it's absorbing and good and I'm the same way. You know, 00:18:35.667 --> 00:18:40.087 when I'm done, it goes right up to my head and I just wipe my hands off on my 00:18:40.087 --> 00:18:44.087 head and my head's not glistening or gleaming or anything like that. 00:18:44.227 --> 00:18:48.247 So, you know, it's absorbing well, which is a testament to the good ingredients you guys are using. 00:18:48.427 --> 00:18:51.447 And so, you know, big fan. Thank you. 00:18:52.287 --> 00:18:56.487 Yeah. So I'm going to echo what he said. 00:18:57.187 --> 00:19:02.847 The Stogie's is right up my alley. I really like a tobacco scent and the leather 00:19:02.847 --> 00:19:03.967 scents and things like that. 00:19:04.047 --> 00:19:10.047 My beard oil, I mean, it, it, one of the big things that I look for with the 00:19:10.047 --> 00:19:12.867 beard oil is does it clog up the follicles? 00:19:13.027 --> 00:19:18.587 Does it, is it, I've had lots of issues where I'll scratch and it's painful. 00:19:18.587 --> 00:19:21.447 It feels like it's real stiff in there and it actually hurts like hell. 00:19:21.847 --> 00:19:25.427 And it didn't do that. It wasn't real greasy. you 00:19:25.427 --> 00:19:28.847 know there's lots of transparency with the uh with 00:19:28.847 --> 00:19:31.807 the ingredients which i really really like i i 00:19:31.807 --> 00:19:34.807 think you guys are doing some great stuff here i'm 00:19:34.807 --> 00:19:40.427 thank you very pleased very big fan thank you yeah i go from like i was real 00:19:40.427 --> 00:19:45.347 big into cheeky chops like that's all i was using and then she started then 00:19:45.347 --> 00:19:49.487 i grabbed just one morning i grabbed the the stogies like oh this is the one 00:19:49.487 --> 00:19:54.067 i love and i go through that and i grab a daddy i'm like oh this is the one i love So, so it's like, 00:19:54.227 --> 00:19:57.227 it really, it makes no difference to me anymore. 00:19:57.307 --> 00:20:00.967 Cause I just, I just enjoy them. Like it depends on what I want to smell like that day. 00:20:01.067 --> 00:20:03.687 And the only one that's me, the only people that smell me are when I go to the 00:20:03.687 --> 00:20:06.607 gym in the morning and it's fresh, I'll get the dude, what are you wearing? 00:20:06.947 --> 00:20:10.127 And, uh, other than that, it's the dogs. So I don't go out much, but. 00:20:12.327 --> 00:20:17.027 Or her, I would hope she, she, she catches a whiff of your beard every now and again. Sure. Yeah. 00:20:19.729 --> 00:20:22.969 Yeah for me down here in florida it's it's humid 00:20:22.969 --> 00:20:25.849 99 of the time so the beard i i 00:20:25.849 --> 00:20:28.929 tend to go more towards beard butter versus beard balm 00:20:28.929 --> 00:20:31.669 just to kind of help the flyaways and 00:20:31.669 --> 00:20:37.749 the the humidity aspect and most balms are like you said it's it's too too heavy 00:20:37.749 --> 00:20:43.049 it makes it feel like that beard's too weighted down doesn't feel right so when 00:20:43.049 --> 00:20:47.449 i started finding about balms i've liked a majority of them like paul was saying 00:20:47.449 --> 00:20:49.069 there's there are a few out there that are, 00:20:49.609 --> 00:20:56.049 greasy or heavy or whatever but this one it it absorbs real quick i typically do. 00:20:56.729 --> 00:20:59.669 Oil throw it to the the skin rub it into the skin let 00:20:59.669 --> 00:21:02.489 it sit there for a minute or two brush it and then throw a 00:21:02.489 --> 00:21:06.529 balm and hit the the hair itself or butter 00:21:06.529 --> 00:21:09.529 i should say and hit the hair itself and it it absorbs 00:21:09.529 --> 00:21:12.269 real quick and it it does what it 00:21:12.269 --> 00:21:15.349 needs to do it i don't have these crazy whiskers going 00:21:15.349 --> 00:21:18.849 left and right and the consistency is 00:21:18.849 --> 00:21:21.589 perfect i like the little bit 00:21:21.589 --> 00:21:24.489 harder to get out so you could actually like pinpoint how much 00:21:24.489 --> 00:21:27.329 you could pull out at once there's some out there that it's 00:21:27.329 --> 00:21:30.449 almost like a lotion consistency it's kind of hard to pick 00:21:30.449 --> 00:21:33.289 out exactly what you need and then you overuse it or you don't use enough 00:21:33.289 --> 00:21:36.149 of it but yeah these products i have 00:21:36.149 --> 00:21:39.509 enjoyed at least the two i've tried and then 00:21:39.509 --> 00:21:44.789 i smelt the other two samples before i sent mouth to those guys and yeah it's 00:21:44.789 --> 00:21:50.029 great fantastic sense i'm definitely interested in trying out the what was it 00:21:50.029 --> 00:21:53.209 the bougie grunt i think that was the other one that caught my mind yeah that 00:21:53.209 --> 00:21:58.349 caught my eye and then the irish goodbye just because that logo you had on it that. 00:22:00.104 --> 00:22:04.924 Leprechaun right it's a cool thing i i was looking through the the website and 00:22:04.924 --> 00:22:07.344 i saw that and i was like i don't even know the scent but i kind of want to 00:22:07.344 --> 00:22:08.824 try it just because that that logo. 00:22:09.724 --> 00:22:14.424 I can't get it right as soon 00:22:14.424 --> 00:22:17.584 as somebody tells me i can't do something that's 00:22:17.584 --> 00:22:20.584 the only i gotta try and do it now yeah like when covet 00:22:20.584 --> 00:22:23.324 hit they said you can't go anywhere i i don't i don't 00:22:23.324 --> 00:22:25.984 i'm not a go places person but as 00:22:25.984 --> 00:22:28.844 soon as they said you can't go somewhere it's the only thing i want do is fucking go 00:22:28.844 --> 00:22:33.244 somewhere so you know 00:22:33.244 --> 00:22:35.924 and we've had some fun with with the shirts and the 00:22:35.924 --> 00:22:38.624 sayings and just all the different things because i started you know 00:22:38.624 --> 00:22:41.464 i'm we're doing this from the ground up we've never 00:22:41.464 --> 00:22:45.004 run a business like this before so i'm like trying to watch the social media 00:22:45.004 --> 00:22:49.364 side and i'm like fuck i'm 57 years old and i'm trying to get thousands of followers 00:22:49.364 --> 00:22:53.304 on tiktok and this one and that one i'm like it's a fucking full-time job so 00:22:53.304 --> 00:23:00.744 i'm starting to cut i was just going and I've done training for 20, 00:23:00.924 --> 00:23:03.364 25, 26 years. I did trainings. 00:23:04.182 --> 00:23:07.282 You know 300 people to six people to one person 00:23:07.282 --> 00:23:10.002 didn't matter so i had no problem talking and just coming off the top 00:23:10.002 --> 00:23:12.882 of the head and one afternoon i was sitting out here doing a video 00:23:12.882 --> 00:23:15.662 and something hit me and i just came out with the don't 00:23:15.662 --> 00:23:18.742 let the beard look weird and stay metal my friends and because that's i'm straight 00:23:18.742 --> 00:23:23.422 metal and for music and it just stuck so i use that as a tagline so she's putting 00:23:23.422 --> 00:23:29.182 that on shirts and the last one she made me was a skull with a hat and a beard 00:23:29.182 --> 00:23:33.122 doing the devil horns and the back of it said stay bearded stay brutal and i 00:23:33.122 --> 00:23:34.522 was like that's fucking me all day. 00:23:34.662 --> 00:23:36.822 And I get in the gym and people are like, dude, that shirt's fantastic. 00:23:36.942 --> 00:23:38.482 Where can I get one? I'm like, I know a guy. 00:23:39.682 --> 00:23:42.862 Those will be, we'll be getting those on the website. 00:23:43.362 --> 00:23:47.942 So yeah, it's been, it's been a lot of fun and she's so creative with, 00:23:48.002 --> 00:23:52.762 with things and, you know, and we've had so much help. We sponsor a couple of different podcasts. 00:23:52.942 --> 00:23:57.342 We sponsor Toro Cigar Company's podcast and we sponsor the Real Smoke podcast 00:23:57.342 --> 00:23:59.782 as well. And it's just been so much fun. 00:23:59.982 --> 00:24:02.662 We had our friend Jake helped us do a commercial. So we've got 00:24:02.662 --> 00:24:05.422 a commercial that was that was put together for the 00:24:05.422 --> 00:24:08.402 company and then for a real smoke those guys will 00:24:08.402 --> 00:24:11.462 be like dude just shoot like a 30 second to a minute video 00:24:11.462 --> 00:24:14.442 whatever you want to promote whatever you want to do so i just come up with like stupid 00:24:14.442 --> 00:24:17.522 ideas and they put it up there and uh they're in the podcast 00:24:17.522 --> 00:24:20.442 it's and you know it is it's it's having fun 00:24:20.442 --> 00:24:23.242 and you know technically i'm retired but i still got 00:24:23.242 --> 00:24:25.962 to enjoy myself because if if it's when it stops being 00:24:25.962 --> 00:24:28.982 fun and it's then it's a job and uh i'm all 00:24:28.982 --> 00:24:32.582 set with that so that's the candle company 00:24:32.582 --> 00:24:35.382 we kind of dwindled that down because that 00:24:35.382 --> 00:24:40.042 was i did a lot of markets with that that was going to all the farm you know 00:24:40.042 --> 00:24:46.122 the big markets and lugging all that around and you know it was so much fun 00:24:46.122 --> 00:24:49.842 but there was so much oversaturation of all these different new brand new companies 00:24:49.842 --> 00:24:54.722 and my my product was amazing like you can buy my my candles that are on the website. 00:24:55.531 --> 00:25:00.591 The guys have been buying those scents for three years now for me that I was 00:25:00.591 --> 00:25:02.871 especially making them for the cigar guys. 00:25:03.531 --> 00:25:09.231 But it just, this is, the fun was gone on the candle side because it just was, 00:25:09.431 --> 00:25:11.691 you know, I'm a perfectionist. 00:25:11.831 --> 00:25:15.071 So it's, everything had to be perfect. The whips had to be perfect. 00:25:15.331 --> 00:25:20.131 The poor had to be perfect. Like it was exhausting and it wasn't, it wasn't fun anymore. 00:25:20.371 --> 00:25:23.871 This now is like so much fun. And it's so funny because she'll be, 00:25:24.051 --> 00:25:27.231 we were, she was doing a new candle and for the website for the, 00:25:27.231 --> 00:25:28.371 for, for the beard company. 00:25:28.491 --> 00:25:31.491 And she's like, these are the, these are the notes. 00:25:31.631 --> 00:25:34.091 These are what you smell in it. And I'm like, I just can't think of a name. 00:25:34.151 --> 00:25:36.011 And she's going on and on and on. And she gives me the notes. 00:25:36.071 --> 00:25:38.711 I walk right by her. I'm like, ah, just make it fucking leather bound. 00:25:39.271 --> 00:25:42.711 She's like that. I'm like, she just asked me fucking 20 minutes ago. 00:25:44.571 --> 00:25:47.591 I overthink a lot. Yep. Yeah. 00:25:47.691 --> 00:25:51.371 Larry, Larry, guys are all over us about making beard washing conditioner. 00:25:51.371 --> 00:25:56.111 And so the research went into that big time and she did two different brands 00:25:56.111 --> 00:26:00.031 of it two different styles of it she did an unscented washing conditioner then 00:26:00.031 --> 00:26:04.711 she did one with a little peppermint rosemary and and uh it's that peppermint 00:26:04.711 --> 00:26:06.491 rosemary just rocks i love that one, 00:26:06.951 --> 00:26:10.251 so but it's good and you know talking to people about it is pretty funny, 00:26:11.071 --> 00:26:13.611 you know because they're all they're all kind of the same thing and they're 00:26:13.611 --> 00:26:17.431 like you know do you do it every day and i'm like use it every couple days because 00:26:17.431 --> 00:26:20.391 you know you know it here's a bunch a bunch of grown-ass men talking about how 00:26:20.391 --> 00:26:22.151 to fucking wash their hair. Everybody's different. 00:26:23.151 --> 00:26:26.511 The texture of all of your beards are completely different. So it's, 00:26:26.611 --> 00:26:32.071 you know, just like women, there's some that can wash their hair once a week. 00:26:32.631 --> 00:26:35.551 And then I have my dry, frizzy hair that... 00:26:38.535 --> 00:26:43.415 Yeah, one of the things that I seem to be gravitating to doing this podcast 00:26:43.415 --> 00:26:47.155 is trying to find good beard wash and conditioner. 00:26:47.635 --> 00:26:51.955 I know when I, this was, I don't know, back in high school, college, 00:26:51.995 --> 00:26:55.915 when I started growing some stuff out, whatever, if you want to call it a beard, you can. 00:26:56.115 --> 00:26:59.875 But when I started getting some facial hair, it was basically just head and 00:26:59.875 --> 00:27:01.555 shoulders up here, head and shoulders here. 00:27:01.835 --> 00:27:07.235 Yep. And I couldn't figure out why I was, head and shoulders supposed to be dandruff free. 00:27:07.235 --> 00:27:11.075 Why did I always have dandruff using this stuff and then I've come to find out 00:27:11.075 --> 00:27:15.615 that it helps if you have the dandruff it doesn't help if you didn't have it, 00:27:16.415 --> 00:27:20.435 if you didn't have the dandruff and you use it then it's going to dry out your 00:27:20.435 --> 00:27:27.215 hair so over the last probably I don't know five probably since COVID so five 00:27:27.215 --> 00:27:29.915 six years give or take I've been trying different, 00:27:30.675 --> 00:27:36.475 shampoos and what not and then joined this podcast back in 23 I think it was and, 00:27:37.235 --> 00:27:41.415 trying different beard washing conditioners and just to see what different ones are. 00:27:41.555 --> 00:27:44.695 It's, it's fun. Cause there's so many different, uh. 00:27:45.836 --> 00:27:48.756 Ideas with the the beard washing conditioner they could 00:27:48.756 --> 00:27:51.936 have the same ingredients but they'll feel completely different and they'll 00:27:51.936 --> 00:27:54.816 make the beard feel completely different so and like 00:27:54.816 --> 00:27:58.336 you said it everyone's hair is different so what 00:27:58.336 --> 00:28:01.356 might feel good in my beard might not feel good in yours or paul's 00:28:01.356 --> 00:28:04.476 or adam's so it's not a obviously you 00:28:04.476 --> 00:28:07.196 guys know it's not a one size fits all sort of 00:28:07.196 --> 00:28:10.156 deal but if you got a good beard wash beard butter 00:28:10.156 --> 00:28:13.336 beard oil beard balm whatever it should 00:28:13.336 --> 00:28:16.596 work in most people's beards yeah and 00:28:16.596 --> 00:28:19.596 there's been a few products that we've uh reviewed on here 00:28:19.596 --> 00:28:23.156 this is definitely one of them that seems to uh work well 00:28:23.156 --> 00:28:26.456 in the majority of beards out there yeah i 00:28:26.456 --> 00:28:29.436 tell everybody everything that happens in with this company 00:28:29.436 --> 00:28:33.656 as far as everything that's made is all her i have nothing to do with it i'm 00:28:33.656 --> 00:28:37.716 just the pretty face that puts it out there for everybody it is she is my mad 00:28:37.716 --> 00:28:41.676 scientist tanya is the one who handles all that i she's going to be going back 00:28:41.676 --> 00:28:45.616 to Connecticut for a couple of weeks to see your mom and I'm fucked. 00:28:45.796 --> 00:28:47.616 Like I, like, I'm like, bro, you gotta make some shit. 00:28:47.976 --> 00:28:51.836 You don't want me doing this. Like I, I can, I can pack it. 00:28:51.936 --> 00:28:56.896 I can put, I can send it, but making stuff now, now I can, I put the strings 00:28:56.896 --> 00:29:00.896 on the, on the beer, on the car diffusers. That's all I'm good for there. Yeah. 00:29:02.283 --> 00:29:05.723 Yeah so like that wash is a looking at 00:29:05.723 --> 00:29:08.603 the i obviously haven't tried your wash yet i'm going to 00:29:08.603 --> 00:29:11.543 but i feel like that's a big miss for 00:29:11.543 --> 00:29:14.303 a lot of brands where they feel like they need a wash and 00:29:14.303 --> 00:29:17.143 a conditioner and i feel like they kind of phone 00:29:17.143 --> 00:29:20.243 it in and they don't stick true to the 00:29:20.243 --> 00:29:23.403 ingredients and i've tried some washes that just strip all 00:29:23.403 --> 00:29:27.203 the oils out of your beard yeah no this yeah this is not one of those that's 00:29:27.203 --> 00:29:30.763 why i don't use it every couple days it does not strip it when you put that 00:29:30.763 --> 00:29:36.023 conditioner back in when you it lathers up as a small maybe a dime size to a 00:29:36.023 --> 00:29:41.783 you know to a nickel size and it lathers up really well and i mean you know smoking a lot of cigars, 00:29:42.243 --> 00:29:44.963 the mustache gets that nicotine in it washes that right 00:29:44.963 --> 00:29:47.623 out and it feels clean and then 00:29:47.623 --> 00:29:50.323 you throw the conditioner in leave it in for a few minutes and then you wash it out and 00:29:50.323 --> 00:29:54.023 it's that it's so soft and it's looks like it's just it revitalizes 00:29:54.023 --> 00:29:57.823 it and then you hit some oil in it before you go to bed i'll use that conditioner 00:29:57.823 --> 00:30:06.563 on my hair is like that super like hay texture hair like yeah like like frizzy 00:30:06.563 --> 00:30:13.623 and the conditioner works amazing in my hair like i absolutely so the unscented, 00:30:14.243 --> 00:30:19.143 to me so it's unscented but it has it has it has a scent you know you're not 00:30:19.143 --> 00:30:20.923 well in order You know what it smells? 00:30:21.103 --> 00:30:25.323 It has a little bit of like, it has hemp seed oil in it. 00:30:25.623 --> 00:30:28.823 It's got the hemp, but it doesn't smell like that normal hemp. 00:30:29.463 --> 00:30:35.003 Did any of you guys ever use that hemp H-E-M-P-Z lotion? 00:30:35.803 --> 00:30:40.283 No. No, that one? Okay. It kind of has that smell into it. It's like a sweet, 00:30:40.423 --> 00:30:41.743 like a little bit of a sweet smell. 00:30:42.043 --> 00:30:48.703 So it's not, there's no fragrance itself in it. The scent is from the ingredients. Yes. 00:30:49.275 --> 00:30:52.575 But it has aloe and it has the hemp seed oil. 00:30:52.775 --> 00:30:57.715 So it makes it just, yeah, it's really great on my hair. I love it on my hair. 00:30:57.855 --> 00:31:00.715 So that's saying a lot, honestly, for the conditioner. 00:31:01.695 --> 00:31:06.675 So, yeah. That's actually a point that I'm glad that you made because it's something 00:31:06.675 --> 00:31:09.055 that we've actually talked about several times. 00:31:09.715 --> 00:31:13.135 That, yeah, a lot of these products might be marketed towards men, 00:31:13.135 --> 00:31:16.995 but women can use these products just as well. 00:31:16.995 --> 00:31:20.255 And I don't you know I think a lot of people probably 00:31:20.255 --> 00:31:23.235 hear us for you know three dudes two 00:31:23.235 --> 00:31:26.355 of us are bald we got beards whatever you 00:31:26.355 --> 00:31:29.415 know they don't hear what we have to say about what women 00:31:29.415 --> 00:31:32.755 can do and what women can use and things like that but these 00:31:32.755 --> 00:31:36.055 are products that women can absolutely use as well it's funny 00:31:36.055 --> 00:31:39.175 you say that because good friend of mine from Hayes Gray's 00:31:39.175 --> 00:31:41.995 cigars pay uh ruy his his girl 00:31:41.995 --> 00:31:45.055 val will whatever he gets 00:31:45.055 --> 00:31:47.775 she ends up taking like the extras and she puts 00:31:47.775 --> 00:31:51.355 it in she uses it in her hair all the time and it cracks 00:31:51.355 --> 00:31:54.375 me up yeah it's like oh you're gonna need some more stogies 00:31:54.375 --> 00:31:57.235 you need some more cheeky chops and he's like do i really 00:31:57.235 --> 00:32:00.675 he's like she's like oh yeah you're almost i could very easily switch 00:32:00.675 --> 00:32:03.275 i could do very easily add to the add a 00:32:03.275 --> 00:32:05.935 whole women's line to mine but we're i'm gonna 00:32:05.935 --> 00:32:08.775 learn from past mistakes of the candle company because 00:32:08.775 --> 00:32:12.095 i also ventured out into soap making and you know 00:32:12.095 --> 00:32:15.095 body sprays and roll on perfumes and i just 00:32:15.095 --> 00:32:21.395 you know i just went on and on and on so i'm gonna control myself and not do 00:32:21.395 --> 00:32:26.675 that right now because i easily could yeah because i've lost a bedroom yeah 00:32:26.675 --> 00:32:30.835 part of a kitchen taking over part of a dining room most of the garage just 00:32:30.835 --> 00:32:32.475 there's just shit everywhere. 00:32:34.368 --> 00:32:38.728 That's my goal is to get the company big enough so that I can rent somewhere, 00:32:39.228 --> 00:32:43.628 not as a brick and mortar, but rent somewhere to leave the house to go to work 00:32:43.628 --> 00:32:47.068 and have everything in a different spot. It's not the house. 00:32:48.108 --> 00:32:49.328 That's one of my best friends. 00:32:50.548 --> 00:32:52.948 Texted me going, who's that girl sitting next to you? I said, 00:32:52.988 --> 00:32:54.068 who the fuck you thinking is? 00:32:55.468 --> 00:32:57.008 Who the fuck else could it be, Rob? 00:33:01.228 --> 00:33:06.028 I don't know. I just bought some girl on the street. It's a broth that I've grown for 33 years now. 00:33:08.428 --> 00:33:15.068 But yeah, it's solid ingredients in the butter and the oil in the butter. 00:33:15.188 --> 00:33:21.008 You got shea, cocoa butters, mango butter, coconut oil, cocoa butter, 00:33:21.568 --> 00:33:26.688 jojoba oil, argan oil, vitamin E, arrowroot, and then the fragrance for it. 00:33:26.808 --> 00:33:31.628 The oil has jojoba oil, apricot oil, argan oil, hemp seed oil, 00:33:31.908 --> 00:33:32.948 vitamin E, and the fragrance. 00:33:33.108 --> 00:33:37.788 So everything you're looking for, great ingredients. And I buy like. 00:33:39.373 --> 00:33:43.833 You know, multiple of them are the organic ingredient and I only buy premium 00:33:43.833 --> 00:33:46.133 top quality ingredients. 00:33:46.453 --> 00:33:50.213 Like nothing is, you know, the butters are not just from like, 00:33:50.733 --> 00:33:53.353 you know, Amazon, like, you know what I mean? 00:33:53.413 --> 00:33:57.373 Like everything is very, very high quality that I purchase. 00:33:58.033 --> 00:34:04.753 Now you can definitely tell by using these products and that's with any, any brand out there. 00:34:04.933 --> 00:34:09.253 There's ones out there that have like 20, 30 different oils in there. 00:34:09.373 --> 00:34:12.213 Versus something like this that just has the five or 00:34:12.213 --> 00:34:15.793 six and there's a few other companies like that you could tell which which ones 00:34:15.793 --> 00:34:19.253 use the high quality oils inside 00:34:19.253 --> 00:34:22.493 their their carrier blend because it it shows you 00:34:22.493 --> 00:34:25.233 don't need 50 different oils in there to make your 00:34:25.233 --> 00:34:29.233 beard feel good you just need the right ones and from 00:34:29.233 --> 00:34:32.113 the right source to make it make everything and i 00:34:32.113 --> 00:34:35.833 had to find the right mixture to like john's allergic to almonds so that's 00:34:35.833 --> 00:34:38.793 why there is not almond oil in any of them which is so typical 00:34:38.793 --> 00:34:41.533 to see in most of the products that are out there 00:34:41.533 --> 00:34:44.573 that's a hint if john dies you put almond oil somewhere 00:34:44.573 --> 00:34:47.413 and that's with also the 00:34:47.413 --> 00:34:50.953 butter is that i wanted the four different butters a 00:34:50.953 --> 00:34:53.973 lot of the time the shea butter is typically a 00:34:53.973 --> 00:34:56.613 lot of shea butter that you'll find you know 00:34:56.613 --> 00:34:59.693 in there but i wanted i wanted four 00:34:59.693 --> 00:35:03.193 different butters in there so that was like a whole nother another thing 00:35:03.193 --> 00:35:07.273 that i you know really trial and error of what which ones are we're going to 00:35:07.273 --> 00:35:12.173 end up making the cut yeah i didn't want it like anybody else's butter and i 00:35:12.173 --> 00:35:15.873 know it's a phenomenal product and we just it's now it's marketing getting it 00:35:15.873 --> 00:35:20.693 into the right hands of people and and that yeah because it's a it's a really is a great product. 00:35:22.314 --> 00:35:26.474 We're in the process of working out the details to go online with it as far 00:35:26.474 --> 00:35:31.694 as like with TikTok. So we can actually use it on a TikTok shop and get it into 00:35:31.694 --> 00:35:33.054 the affiliate program and all that. 00:35:33.974 --> 00:35:38.534 I just got to my thousand followers on TikTok so I could start doing affiliate 00:35:38.534 --> 00:35:42.774 stuff and just watching how that works and just kind of going from there. 00:35:43.654 --> 00:35:49.194 I want to be able to quit the day job and do this and selling cigars full time. 00:35:49.614 --> 00:35:51.754 So that's the retirement goal. 00:35:53.102 --> 00:35:57.922 Sounds like a plan. What is a plan? It's a shitty plan, but it's gone. 00:35:58.642 --> 00:36:05.282 Are you still in corrections? No. So I retired in 2019 and in 2021, 00:36:05.282 --> 00:36:11.602 I got a job working for a company where I do investigations that are all, 00:36:11.762 --> 00:36:13.322 how does Jared not see this? 00:36:14.222 --> 00:36:19.202 My child keeps calling and is going right to her computer. And I sent him the 00:36:19.202 --> 00:36:21.322 link to let him know that we're live. 00:36:22.702 --> 00:36:26.442 So I retired in 2019. We moved down here. 00:36:26.642 --> 00:36:32.602 I worked for a little bit in South Carolina corrections and COVID hit and I was miserable. 00:36:32.882 --> 00:36:36.722 And I spent most of the time in the garage, smoking cigars, listening to music 00:36:36.722 --> 00:36:40.082 and refurbishing my father's and grandfather's tools. Cause I had no, 00:36:40.182 --> 00:36:41.502 no idea what to do with myself. 00:36:41.882 --> 00:36:44.802 And he's like, bro, you gotta get a job. Cause I was going, I was going stir 00:36:44.802 --> 00:36:48.622 crazy. And I found this company, a bunch of my friends worked for him. 00:36:49.182 --> 00:36:52.462 And so we listen to inmate phone calls throughout the country. We're contracted. 00:36:52.922 --> 00:36:57.122 And so I do investigations. So if somebody does something wrong in a prison, 00:36:57.262 --> 00:37:01.182 they say something on the phone, I'll get the report. I do the investigation. 00:37:01.382 --> 00:37:05.482 The report goes up the chain of command, and it goes to the facility for them to take a look at. 00:37:06.082 --> 00:37:11.542 And I've been years doing that. It was my job. I did nothing but investigations. 00:37:12.302 --> 00:37:17.202 So it's fun. I have a great time with it. But I just want to be doing the cigars 00:37:17.202 --> 00:37:20.622 full time. I've got six amazing companies that I'm working for. 00:37:21.162 --> 00:37:25.702 I just recently got brought in as a part owner of the Cigar Clowns out of New York. 00:37:25.822 --> 00:37:30.002 So I've got that going and it's just, I'm barely scratching the surface with 00:37:30.002 --> 00:37:33.382 getting out to different lounges and getting the brand out there some more, 00:37:33.462 --> 00:37:34.862 the different brands that I have. 00:37:35.002 --> 00:37:38.582 So it's been, it's really, I found my passion again. 00:37:38.682 --> 00:37:43.322 I found my love. My passion before was hunting gang members and learning gang stuff. 00:37:43.482 --> 00:37:47.802 And that's what I did. and now I've re-founded, it's re-sparked with the whole 00:37:47.802 --> 00:37:51.102 cigar industry and I'm having an absolute blast with it. 00:37:51.851 --> 00:37:55.191 Okay, well, two things real quick before I shut up again. 00:37:56.111 --> 00:38:02.911 So, Ron, I'm a fellow metalhead, and I just spent the weekend last week at Louder 00:38:02.911 --> 00:38:05.151 Than Life. I don't know if you're familiar. 00:38:05.411 --> 00:38:10.911 I guess so. It was miserable. It was absolutely miserable at the same time. 00:38:11.551 --> 00:38:16.771 So hot, you know, and everything that could go wrong did go wrong, 00:38:16.771 --> 00:38:22.591 But at the same time, you know, I got to see some bands that I hadn't seen in years. 00:38:22.931 --> 00:38:25.131 You know, like Mudvayne. I got to see Mudvayne back together, 00:38:25.171 --> 00:38:26.771 except for, you know, their guitarist. 00:38:27.471 --> 00:38:32.131 He wasn't there. Got to see Max Cavallera, who I've never seen live. 00:38:32.451 --> 00:38:36.451 Got to see Spineshank, who had been, they split up many, many, many years ago. 00:38:37.191 --> 00:38:40.811 Kitty was there. Then I got to see a bunch of bands that I've never seen before. 00:38:40.991 --> 00:38:44.571 I saw Manson again, saw Zombie again, but I got to see a bunch of bands that 00:38:44.571 --> 00:38:49.471 I'd never seen before. So that was, that was really cool, but I'm going to be 00:38:49.471 --> 00:38:51.751 in the New York-ish area. 00:38:52.371 --> 00:38:55.831 Starting on Thursday, we're driving up to Maine. We have to drive through New York. 00:38:55.991 --> 00:39:02.611 So I'm curious where in New York is that cigar cut and where can I, 00:39:02.731 --> 00:39:06.051 can I get my hands on any of those products while I'm driving through New York? 00:39:06.591 --> 00:39:10.271 Absolutely. So where are you driving up from, from Kentucky? 00:39:10.851 --> 00:39:15.471 Kentucky. Yeah. So you, are you heading, uh, are you heading through Pittsburgh area at all? 00:39:16.011 --> 00:39:20.131 We'll be, we'll be in Pennsylvania. We're going to drive up through Scranton 00:39:20.131 --> 00:39:22.911 so I can go see the one tower, the electric city. 00:39:25.151 --> 00:39:28.811 So I'm a huge fan of the office down here. 00:39:29.031 --> 00:39:31.931 I was completely geeked out cause we stopped in Scranton. I couldn't, 00:39:31.951 --> 00:39:34.851 I texted my son and I said, I'm in the electric city. 00:39:34.931 --> 00:39:37.131 That's right. It wasn't filmed there. I said, I don't care. 00:39:39.751 --> 00:39:43.071 That's right. So if you, if you're going through Harrisburg area, 00:39:44.154 --> 00:39:46.794 uh does he does he have him 00:39:46.794 --> 00:39:49.694 currently there's i would have to as i 00:39:49.694 --> 00:39:52.394 i can i'll hit you up because i got to think about the lounges that have them 00:39:52.394 --> 00:39:57.054 up in that as you're going up that way i know there's some in lyonnaire there's 00:39:57.054 --> 00:40:00.854 some in pittsburgh we've got two lounges in pittsburgh with the clowns we've 00:40:00.854 --> 00:40:05.354 got lounges through jersey new york and if you're going through there's one 00:40:05.354 --> 00:40:08.674 lounge in connecticut that carries them but that's going to be depending on 00:40:08.674 --> 00:40:10.854 if you're going up 15 it's up in Naugatuck. 00:40:11.534 --> 00:40:15.814 Stogie's has them. In Naugatuck, that'd be a little off the beaten path because 00:40:15.814 --> 00:40:17.454 you're going to take 95 the whole ride up. 00:40:17.954 --> 00:40:22.774 I have no clue. I'm going so the way we're going, we're going from here to Scranton, 00:40:22.894 --> 00:40:25.554 then Scranton right up into Maine, but on the way back, 00:40:26.114 --> 00:40:30.574 we're going straight over to Buffalo so that I can go see Highmark before they 00:40:30.574 --> 00:40:34.414 tear it down and we're going to go to Niagara and then shoot straight back down. 00:40:34.834 --> 00:40:37.614 I can get a list of the... Well, if you just go 00:40:37.614 --> 00:40:40.574 to the website the cigar clowns okay and 00:40:40.574 --> 00:40:43.234 um there's a store finder there that'll give 00:40:43.234 --> 00:40:46.394 you everything that's up in that area okay okay yep 00:40:46.394 --> 00:40:49.334 i'm there now where are you going to in maine that's 00:40:49.334 --> 00:40:52.274 my favorite place i love maine so we're going 00:40:52.274 --> 00:40:55.814 it's actually a we're going so we're 00:40:55.814 --> 00:40:58.714 going to oh hell or however we're 00:40:58.714 --> 00:41:08.614 going to no no no it's bahaba yeah yeah well and we're going to uh portland 00:41:08.614 --> 00:41:13.734 and and kitty bunkport and then that's where we're starting and then we're going 00:41:13.734 --> 00:41:16.234 down to uh boston and salem, 00:41:16.896 --> 00:41:22.436 which I think Salem, Massachusetts in October, probably the coolest fucking 00:41:22.436 --> 00:41:23.176 thing. And they've done that. 00:41:23.216 --> 00:41:26.816 They've had a blast. It was very cool. So I'm really excited. 00:41:27.696 --> 00:41:31.956 Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, yes, sir. Main Brewing, number one. 00:41:32.456 --> 00:41:37.836 Okay. And then when you're coming down through Boston, you have to hit Treehouse and Trillium. Okay. 00:41:38.596 --> 00:41:42.616 They will change your life. Okay. I'll be on the lookout for those. 00:41:42.776 --> 00:41:46.376 I've got one day where my sister set aside for they. 00:41:47.476 --> 00:41:50.576 Being you know the females of the family to go shopping i 00:41:50.576 --> 00:41:53.256 told her i'm not fucking doing that so i'm gonna 00:41:53.256 --> 00:41:56.256 go to i'm i want to see sam adams while 00:41:56.256 --> 00:41:59.796 i'm in town because i love sam adams i want to go to privateer 00:41:59.796 --> 00:42:03.716 rum but i'll make sure to look out for those two distillers as well or those 00:42:03.716 --> 00:42:07.256 three house and trillium put out some of the most amazing trillium is just next 00:42:07.256 --> 00:42:13.916 level beer okay yeah and and main main brewing has got them they do lunch they 00:42:13.916 --> 00:42:16.716 do dinner they do thank you they did 00:42:16.896 --> 00:42:22.696 Anything that you can get from them is worth it all day. Okay. Now, are they... 00:42:23.656 --> 00:42:28.596 Do they have a wide variance of types, or are they all... I got everything. 00:42:28.916 --> 00:42:31.296 Yeah, they have everything. I'm a big IPA. 00:42:32.176 --> 00:42:36.096 That was my thing was IPAs, and then when it got cold out, then I'd be doing 00:42:36.096 --> 00:42:39.016 the stouts and the porters. But down here, there's really... 00:42:39.734 --> 00:42:43.634 I've not found beers very happily down here. Like it's nothing. 00:42:43.814 --> 00:42:48.114 I was spoiled with Vermont and Maine and Massachusetts and Connecticut with some great breweries. 00:42:48.254 --> 00:42:52.494 So I literally stopped drinking beer and it's all been whiskeys and bourbons. 00:42:53.054 --> 00:42:56.114 So there's some, well, congratulations on the whiskeys and bourbons, 00:42:56.254 --> 00:43:00.634 but there's some pretty great shit in Asheville. Oh yeah. That's a fun place. 00:43:01.354 --> 00:43:05.674 Awesome. Just awesome breweries up there. They're great. But I'm more of a, 00:43:05.694 --> 00:43:06.974 I like porters and stouts. 00:43:07.374 --> 00:43:11.534 Love them. but I'm more of a lager guy than I am an IPA guy. 00:43:11.654 --> 00:43:17.154 I don't, it's, IPAs are a little bit too piney for me, but I do like the heavy 00:43:17.154 --> 00:43:18.654 hops, if that makes any sense. 00:43:18.994 --> 00:43:20.894 I don't like IPAs, but I like heavy hops. 00:43:21.534 --> 00:43:25.134 So that's what you want to state. You want to stay to the New England IPAs because 00:43:25.134 --> 00:43:27.954 they're not, it's not that piney-ness of the West Coast IPA. 00:43:28.274 --> 00:43:33.354 When you're playing with Simcoe, it was so bad, I could tell you what hop was in the beer. 00:43:33.674 --> 00:43:36.754 But the Simcoe was always my favorite, the Simcoe and the Mosaic, 00:43:36.754 --> 00:43:40.614 and that's going to be prevalent in your East Coast IPAs as opposed to that 00:43:40.614 --> 00:43:43.754 real piney West Coast. I agree with you. 00:43:44.714 --> 00:43:48.574 You've got two other guys in here that probably used to be able to tell you 00:43:48.574 --> 00:43:50.434 which hops were in it between me and Paul. 00:43:50.634 --> 00:43:54.394 They were heavy into that craft beer scene a couple years back. 00:43:54.754 --> 00:43:58.134 John was like a little kid when our son went to college in Vermont because he 00:43:58.134 --> 00:43:59.954 was about a half an hour above Stowe. 00:44:00.434 --> 00:44:05.574 We would go up there and he would be running out. He'd be coming out. 00:44:05.574 --> 00:44:06.674 She said he was skipping. 00:44:06.954 --> 00:44:09.194 I'm like, okay. It's just a whole box of Heddy Topper. It sounds like he was 00:44:09.194 --> 00:44:13.074 skipping when you left the brewery because I had Heddy Topper and Focal Banger. 00:44:13.234 --> 00:44:16.594 I had, like, these are, like, the—Heddy Topper at the time was, like, the top IPA. 00:44:16.974 --> 00:44:20.474 Cloud Drop. Cloud Drop. We had, like, all these different ones. We would come home. 00:44:20.954 --> 00:44:22.734 I had to buy him a beer fridge because—, 00:44:24.089 --> 00:44:26.929 Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. And then it started taking over, 00:44:26.929 --> 00:44:31.509 not just that, not just his fridge, but then it would move into our regular fridge. 00:44:32.049 --> 00:44:36.409 I'm sure he was miserable with the fact that you bought him a beer fridge. 00:44:36.629 --> 00:44:39.749 You know what happens in that beer fridge now? It's a beard butter fridge. Yep. 00:44:40.289 --> 00:44:42.629 I don't keep any beer in it, but the butter goes into it now. 00:44:44.009 --> 00:44:46.889 It's got all those stickers all over it and the butters go in there. 00:44:48.309 --> 00:44:51.169 There's a brewery here in town. it's a 00:44:51.169 --> 00:44:54.749 it's kind of a jacked up story but when they 00:44:54.749 --> 00:44:58.809 first opened it they opened it with a german as 00:44:58.809 --> 00:45:01.529 the as a brewmaster and they 00:45:01.529 --> 00:45:04.209 were doing all german style beers and they've got a 00:45:04.209 --> 00:45:07.549 german style bar in there that's you know it's really high 00:45:07.549 --> 00:45:10.729 you can barely see over it as a fully grown adult of 00:45:10.729 --> 00:45:13.489 course i'm i'm five seven on a good 00:45:13.489 --> 00:45:16.729 day so it's really not that tall you know 00:45:16.729 --> 00:45:19.949 truthfully but it's tall enough anyway they were 00:45:19.949 --> 00:45:22.949 doing all german style beer and then he got married or 00:45:22.949 --> 00:45:26.269 getting married he took his fiancee who was american back 00:45:26.269 --> 00:45:30.589 to germany to meet his family and they got married in germany and when they 00:45:30.589 --> 00:45:36.689 came back his visa his work visa had expired and they wouldn't accept his his 00:45:36.689 --> 00:45:40.329 marriage and let him back into the country so he had to go back to germany and 00:45:40.329 --> 00:45:43.689 they ended up getting an irish brewmaster so now they're doing german and, 00:45:44.149 --> 00:45:48.629 Irish, but my favorite beer of all time is there, and it's called Doppelbach, 00:45:48.789 --> 00:45:52.229 and it is so fucking thick, you can damn near chew it. I mean, it. 00:45:53.211 --> 00:45:56.891 It like it's, it runs out of there almost like molasses. It's just super. 00:45:56.971 --> 00:45:59.131 Yeah, I love that. It looks like motor oil. 00:45:59.571 --> 00:46:07.191 Oh, God is fan. They serve it to you in a traditional size stein. 00:46:07.331 --> 00:46:10.271 It's all, it's, it's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. I love it. 00:46:10.531 --> 00:46:14.651 A few years ago, we did a, my son and I with my mother-in-law and father-in-law 00:46:14.651 --> 00:46:20.371 went to Ireland and whole boy, let me tell you, Guinness was breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 00:46:20.911 --> 00:46:23.071 And it is it is absolutely the 00:46:23.071 --> 00:46:26.311 truth that it is different over there than it is here I'm sure I'm sure, 00:46:27.023 --> 00:46:31.123 It's fantastic. I'm sure. There's actually, I've not watched it yet, 00:46:31.243 --> 00:46:35.543 but it's a semi-docu-series on Netflix called The House of Guinness. 00:46:35.843 --> 00:46:37.563 I just saw it advertised. 00:46:38.103 --> 00:46:40.603 Yeah, I'm really excited to start watching that. 00:46:41.283 --> 00:46:49.443 I love beer, love bourbon, so very excited to get up there and check out some of those. 00:46:49.563 --> 00:46:52.623 And I love rum, so I'm very excited to get up there and check out some of those 00:46:52.623 --> 00:46:55.603 breweries and distillers that have been gotten there. So there's a lot, 00:46:55.683 --> 00:46:58.023 there's a lot of good stuff in that area. And I'm telling you, it's the water. 00:46:58.243 --> 00:47:02.843 The water up there is just so clean and so crisp. It just changes the beers for the better. 00:47:03.503 --> 00:47:10.363 Okay. Okay. Well, definitely looking forward to that and trying some seafood that isn't days old. 00:47:10.543 --> 00:47:16.043 That would probably my outlook on the, on the whole seafood industry. 00:47:16.583 --> 00:47:20.183 For sure. Especially in Kennebunk and Portland. 00:47:20.583 --> 00:47:24.803 Y'all have to, you know, through there near Portland. My mom's whole family, 00:47:24.823 --> 00:47:26.123 they're from Westbrook, Maine. 00:47:26.503 --> 00:47:30.143 So we spent, we would go up all the time in the summer to Old Orchard Beach. 00:47:30.643 --> 00:47:36.063 Okay. Which is all right near Portland, Saco, like all that whole area. 00:47:36.383 --> 00:47:38.423 It's a beautiful, beautiful beach. 00:47:38.683 --> 00:47:44.563 I think my sister had plans for us to actually be able to hit that up. 00:47:44.663 --> 00:47:51.863 I know we're going to a, we're doing a lobster fishing something somewhere while we're up there. 00:47:51.863 --> 00:47:55.803 So that'll be, you know, but, and, and then she talked about whale watching, 00:47:55.963 --> 00:48:00.463 taking my dad whale watching, which if you know my dad, which nobody on this 00:48:00.463 --> 00:48:03.883 call does, that is not my dad at all. 00:48:04.003 --> 00:48:09.483 My dad, my dad is Marine Corps drill instructor, you know, but not, 00:48:09.603 --> 00:48:12.683 not, he's, he's not, he's not having it. He's not having it. 00:48:13.443 --> 00:48:18.583 I make that happen. But, uh, the lobster fishing thing he actually agreed to, 00:48:18.583 --> 00:48:21.903 and I'm, I'm pretty excited about that. That'll be pretty cool. 00:48:22.783 --> 00:48:24.503 You have to eat a whoopie pie. 00:48:25.331 --> 00:48:30.751 I'll try to remember that. What is that? You know what a devil dog is? Maybe. 00:48:32.351 --> 00:48:36.331 It's a devil dog on steroids. And it is, so it's a chocolate, 00:48:36.531 --> 00:48:40.911 top and bottom, cake-like brownie with this magical cream in the middle. 00:48:41.331 --> 00:48:43.891 But Maine has the absolute. It's another one that'll change your life. 00:48:43.991 --> 00:48:47.631 Maine has the absolute best. That's a whoopie pie. It'll change your life. 00:48:48.471 --> 00:48:53.091 The Little Debbie double, whatever, the little roll thing. 00:48:53.091 --> 00:48:56.511 Okay whoopie pies and then there's um amados 00:48:56.511 --> 00:49:00.051 it's amados it's their italian sandwiches but 00:49:00.051 --> 00:49:03.091 they're not like typical it's ham and 00:49:03.091 --> 00:49:06.031 ham tomato green peppers it's like 00:49:06.031 --> 00:49:08.831 a specific way they make them i've eaten them my whole life going up 00:49:08.831 --> 00:49:11.691 there and it's all about the bread it's still there it 00:49:11.691 --> 00:49:14.811 is delicious but amados was the first one to make 00:49:14.811 --> 00:49:18.211 them there so again an italian 00:49:18.211 --> 00:49:21.171 an italian sandwich and then 00:49:21.171 --> 00:49:24.031 they have they also sell the they sell whoopie pies there 00:49:24.031 --> 00:49:27.291 also okay at a model that's like oh i 00:49:27.291 --> 00:49:30.151 can't that's so good okay i'm a 00:49:30.151 --> 00:49:33.171 very very very big fan of italian food so 00:49:33.171 --> 00:49:36.191 anything that comes it's not your typical it's not 00:49:36.191 --> 00:49:39.331 your typical of italian like you would get like an italian grinder 00:49:39.331 --> 00:49:42.171 or yeah you're not getting like abagul and right it's just 00:49:42.171 --> 00:49:45.291 that kind of shit it's just ham it's ham cheese and 00:49:45.291 --> 00:49:48.091 it's they're delicious they're delicious and they put like 00:49:48.091 --> 00:49:53.211 oil on it it's just that it's their version of it's just always been called 00:49:53.211 --> 00:50:02.591 the italian sandwich it's specific to them but it's so good okay i will look 00:50:02.591 --> 00:50:06.631 out for that too i'm excited it's going to be a good time i'm not excited for the drive. 00:50:07.768 --> 00:50:11.968 We're driving straight to Maine. Once you get past a certain point, 00:50:11.988 --> 00:50:13.728 there's no traffic. You just go. 00:50:14.048 --> 00:50:18.048 It's just, it's beautiful. Well, I'm sure of that. However, I've got an issue 00:50:18.048 --> 00:50:20.448 where I fall asleep. That could be an issue. Yeah. 00:50:23.908 --> 00:50:27.908 The bigger issue is that I'll have three kids in the car, you know, 00:50:28.028 --> 00:50:32.888 so it's, it's going to be an experience for sure, but it'll be a good one in 00:50:32.888 --> 00:50:34.428 the long run. So I'm, I'm excited. 00:50:34.588 --> 00:50:37.308 Oh, oh, it's going to be wonderful. fall that's when we 00:50:37.308 --> 00:50:40.148 drive home it's about what 14 to 14 hours but 00:50:40.148 --> 00:50:43.068 we'll stop so we'll go home once a year for holidays and 00:50:43.068 --> 00:50:45.888 i'll drive to pennsylvania we'll stay overnight in 00:50:45.888 --> 00:50:48.688 pennsylvania meet up with a group of our friends from all over 00:50:48.688 --> 00:50:51.408 the place we all meet at one of the lounges and then 00:50:51.408 --> 00:50:54.248 the next day we'll just we'll drive into we'll drive back 00:50:54.248 --> 00:50:57.148 into connecticut for the week yeah you guys 00:50:57.148 --> 00:51:02.108 are all psychopaths i don't drive more than two hours airplanes were 00:51:02.108 --> 00:51:05.268 invented for airplanes were invented for a reason i 00:51:05.268 --> 00:51:08.048 drove yeah well to dunn north carolina for an event 00:51:08.048 --> 00:51:11.048 i got i left there at seven in the morning i got there 00:51:11.048 --> 00:51:16.988 at 10 i did the event until 5 30 left there and drove three hours home and i 00:51:16.988 --> 00:51:22.008 don't drive at all i sleep yeah it's like a rock i'm afraid to drive on highways 00:51:22.008 --> 00:51:27.108 so well i guess if i could sleep in the passenger seat my wife would drive i'd 00:51:27.108 --> 00:51:30.668 be okay to it i have the little passenger princess sticker on our car. 00:51:31.128 --> 00:51:35.648 I would wear that Sierra if I was allowed to sleep in the passenger seat. 00:51:36.188 --> 00:51:37.668 She complains about my music. 00:51:39.308 --> 00:51:44.408 Bro, you're sleeping. I fly. I'm a big Taylor Swift fan. 00:51:44.988 --> 00:51:51.008 Oh, God. That's the ongoing. Well, the guys all know. That's the ongoing thing. 00:51:51.268 --> 00:51:53.808 I'm a Swifty by marriage. He's a Swifty by marriage. 00:51:54.848 --> 00:51:59.608 He went to the Taylor Swift concert with me for my 50th birthday in Nashville. 00:52:00.810 --> 00:52:05.310 And I may have put a little glitter in his beard while he wore his Hatebreed 00:52:05.310 --> 00:52:08.230 shirt to the concert. This exact shirt. My Hatebreed shirt. 00:52:09.350 --> 00:52:13.070 But it was something fun. Hatebreed was at Louder Than Life. 00:52:13.770 --> 00:52:17.070 Yeah. I make concessions like that from time to time. Matter of fact, 00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:20.490 I made one on Friday and my wife wanted to go see Paul Wall. 00:52:21.330 --> 00:52:24.750 Is that to do with the teeth? Yeah. Oh, my God. 00:52:25.190 --> 00:52:28.150 Yeah. Dude, that's been around for like 30 years now. 00:52:28.310 --> 00:52:34.270 Yeah. So we both work at that venue from time to time, and I work on the security team. 00:52:34.350 --> 00:52:38.290 So I was outside talking to all the guys that were working security that night 00:52:38.290 --> 00:52:44.450 and just left her inside with all the rest of our friends to enjoy the show. But I was there. 00:52:47.810 --> 00:52:52.010 It's an ongoing joke of all bearded and thrifty. 00:52:55.090 --> 00:52:58.090 So we were on a podcast with toro one night and 00:52:58.090 --> 00:53:00.950 they were all asking about when i'm gonna come out with my 00:53:00.950 --> 00:53:03.870 my specific scent and i've got it picked out 00:53:03.870 --> 00:53:06.910 we're going through the whole thing i'm coming up with like this fucking 00:53:06.910 --> 00:53:09.610 brutal savage metal name in my head and my 00:53:09.610 --> 00:53:12.450 friend jake goes fuck that it's gonna be the bearded 00:53:12.450 --> 00:53:15.070 swifty and then she's losing it and i 00:53:15.070 --> 00:53:18.130 went oh my god i just lost like that and then 00:53:18.130 --> 00:53:20.890 in seconds he's he's doing he's he's a 00:53:20.890 --> 00:53:27.090 master g uh chad gbt now he's sending pictures and i'm like oh my god it's over 00:53:27.090 --> 00:53:30.290 okay it's over the only thing i'm gonna do is pick the scent i'm not gonna be 00:53:30.290 --> 00:53:34.130 able to barkley beer i said at least he's an old jack dude that you made him 00:53:34.130 --> 00:53:39.610 into but god damn man i'm fucking bearded swifty that's gonna be my brand uh yep. 00:53:40.600 --> 00:53:43.780 Do you have a scent profile for that one yet? I do in my head, 00:53:44.180 --> 00:53:47.340 in my head. It's got to have tobacco and it has to have tobacco. 00:53:47.580 --> 00:53:50.900 I love, I love that smell. Like for me, when, you know, you get the, 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:55.360 uh, you know, the, the ammo boxes that you get from that you put your scars in. 00:53:55.540 --> 00:53:58.400 So I've got those. When I open them, that smell hits me. 00:53:58.600 --> 00:54:02.480 It is intoxicating. I love that smell. So I'm trying to figure out something 00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.940 along those lines, what I can pinpoint it to, to get her to, she can make it. 00:54:06.100 --> 00:54:10.300 I just got to get the right, the right sense for it. But tobacco and Mountain Dew. 00:54:10.300 --> 00:54:16.900 That's that's the uh swifty uh everybody 00:54:16.900 --> 00:54:19.960 asks the same thing you guys gonna put sparkles in it we're not fucking putting 00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.960 glitter in the i can make it work yeah 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:28.480 i can figure it out very good please don't yeah please i have i have confidence 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:32.300 in you that you could but i'm gonna echo what they said and say please don't 00:54:32.300 --> 00:54:39.380 i have no doubt that you absolutely could but i don't think it should But it's 00:54:39.380 --> 00:54:41.660 a matter of could, but should. 00:54:43.080 --> 00:54:46.700 My last concert was with, so you guys know Cavalier Cigars? 00:54:48.027 --> 00:54:51.647 So I'm friends with, I'm friends with one of the, with Jack, their, their rep. 00:54:51.807 --> 00:54:56.467 And Jack is a six foot three Honduran, big giant beard. 00:54:56.987 --> 00:55:00.547 And in April, he was, he was, he came to the States. I was with him at PCA. 00:55:00.667 --> 00:55:04.607 He says, I'll be up in your area coming up. So I, so I met him at one of the 00:55:04.607 --> 00:55:06.087 lounges and was actually on my birthday. 00:55:06.127 --> 00:55:09.347 So I hung out when we hung out there and he says, I'll be in, 00:55:09.407 --> 00:55:14.547 he says, I'll be in Columbia at the merchant, which is my local tobacco merchant. 00:55:14.667 --> 00:55:17.087 And he says, I'll be up there tomorrow. So call me when you get there and I'll 00:55:17.087 --> 00:55:21.147 come over. So I met him, we're bullshitting and he goes, I got to go. 00:55:21.307 --> 00:55:23.647 He says, I'm going to a concert. I'm like, oh, who are you going to see? 00:55:23.747 --> 00:55:24.747 He's like, I'm going to see Traders. 00:55:25.047 --> 00:55:26.967 It's a metal band out of, out of Texas. 00:55:27.567 --> 00:55:30.367 And he's like, I got an extra ticket. I said, what? 00:55:30.807 --> 00:55:33.587 I text her. I said, can I go to the concert with Jack? She goes, 00:55:33.607 --> 00:55:36.607 are you fucking seriously asking me right now? I'm like, I just want to be sure. 00:55:36.847 --> 00:55:39.527 And she's like, go. So I said, I'll be right back. I came home. 00:55:39.627 --> 00:55:42.067 I changed, fucking went out there. We went down to the concert, 00:55:42.387 --> 00:55:43.747 a little, little small venue. 00:55:44.187 --> 00:55:48.167 And, uh, it was his first like real metal show in a small venue like that. 00:55:48.267 --> 00:55:52.187 He's like, man, you guys get down in here because it was just the whole floor 00:55:52.187 --> 00:55:53.907 is a pit and you're in it. You don't have a choice. 00:55:54.287 --> 00:55:57.727 And it was a blast. It was a great show. Well, you don't have anywhere. He would go. 00:55:58.668 --> 00:56:03.648 Went to concerts all the time with our middle son jared like everywhere because 00:56:03.648 --> 00:56:07.188 they have the same exactly the same taste of music and then when we came down 00:56:07.188 --> 00:56:10.628 here he doesn't have anyone to go with so which one did i go i went to multiple 00:56:10.628 --> 00:56:13.068 with you but which one i broke her i broke her with slayer, 00:56:13.628 --> 00:56:16.928 in ashville no less so jonah my 00:56:16.928 --> 00:56:19.708 youngest was supposed to go with me it was a finale it was what i was 00:56:19.708 --> 00:56:22.668 on the final tour i had tickets he ended 00:56:22.668 --> 00:56:25.388 up going home so i said i'm fucking going by 00:56:25.388 --> 00:56:28.188 myself i don't care and she said i'll go with 00:56:28.188 --> 00:56:31.068 you so i gave her one of my iron maiden t-shirts we both wore 00:56:31.068 --> 00:56:34.008 iron maiden t-shirts we went to the concert the seating alone the 00:56:34.008 --> 00:56:37.028 seating was like this it was i was about crawling up 00:56:37.028 --> 00:56:39.868 it was phil and selmo to get to the seat he did an entire 00:56:39.868 --> 00:56:43.208 his whole set was pantera it was ministry it 00:56:43.208 --> 00:56:46.868 was primus and it was slayer and 00:56:46.868 --> 00:56:50.268 primus your choice for that group well primus 00:56:50.268 --> 00:56:53.048 is primus is local to north carolina yeah that 00:56:53.048 --> 00:56:55.668 area there so i've seen primus i've been i've been going 00:56:55.668 --> 00:56:58.408 to see primus since the since the late 80s early 90s i 00:56:58.408 --> 00:57:02.048 fucking love that band ministry is another one i love all of them so and it 00:57:02.048 --> 00:57:06.068 was the first time i saw ministry but slayer comes out and they were just slayer 00:57:06.068 --> 00:57:10.848 slayers fucking slayer and she was like oh no no no and that was that broke 00:57:10.848 --> 00:57:13.968 her that was the last concert she ever did with me a lot of it too was the seating 00:57:13.968 --> 00:57:17.488 the place scared me said if i have to go to the bathroom i'm not coming back up here. 00:57:18.308 --> 00:57:21.168 Because it's that old like it was so scary to me 00:57:21.168 --> 00:57:23.948 but we did i went to the other one that i waited for 00:57:23.948 --> 00:57:27.628 you like a mother waiting for their kit in flames i went to go see in flames 00:57:27.628 --> 00:57:30.528 in greenville little venue and i was against the stage and all the moms were 00:57:30.528 --> 00:57:34.628 sitting on the couches on the side of the venue with their purses and the coats 00:57:34.628 --> 00:57:39.268 and shit and i come walking out at the end of the concert sweating and fucking 00:57:39.268 --> 00:57:41.668 happy as can be and you're all looking at her like what the fuck. 00:57:43.786 --> 00:57:47.086 I didn't want you to go on by yourself. I did see Kiss. I wanted to kiss. 00:57:47.106 --> 00:57:51.186 I made her go see Kiss because I'm like, you have to go see them. 00:57:51.386 --> 00:57:53.666 I said, I don't care if you don't like the music. It's a circus and you got 00:57:53.666 --> 00:57:57.466 to watch it. In high school, I was all Metallica and all that. 00:57:57.546 --> 00:58:01.826 And I saw Metallica and we saw Megadeth earlier. I got tickets for that for 00:58:01.826 --> 00:58:03.266 you. Floor seats for Megadeth. 00:58:04.446 --> 00:58:07.586 We love Seether. I do love Seether. I've seen them multiple times. 00:58:08.546 --> 00:58:13.606 Not a big God's Mac fan, but the week after Taylor Swift, we went to North Carolina 00:58:13.606 --> 00:58:16.106 to see Godsmack so I wore my Taylor Swift shirt. 00:58:17.177 --> 00:58:20.237 To that but then i was like this really sucks after 00:58:20.237 --> 00:58:22.957 being at her concert and the light of 00:58:22.957 --> 00:58:25.857 everything and it was like so amazing and 70 000 00:58:25.857 --> 00:58:28.657 people and then i'm like oh this is 00:58:28.657 --> 00:58:31.477 just boring like i was 00:58:31.477 --> 00:58:34.257 happy as fuck because i love god he was happy but i 00:58:34.257 --> 00:58:37.657 was just like well you got you got to get in the pit the 00:58:37.657 --> 00:58:40.417 pits aren't boring at all oh they scared me 00:58:40.417 --> 00:58:43.677 my kids though when jared came 00:58:43.677 --> 00:58:46.457 down jared my son my middle one came down here with 00:58:46.457 --> 00:58:49.917 my younger one and they went to my brooklyn 00:58:49.917 --> 00:58:52.997 is a real small venue they fucking saw him back loose in 00:58:52.997 --> 00:58:56.817 a small venue and jared came home with a fucked up elbow and a footprint on 00:58:56.817 --> 00:59:02.657 his back and i was like bro a big dad it was unbelievable you say knocked loose 00:59:02.657 --> 00:59:06.697 is that what you said yeah yeah that's they're they're local they're local to 00:59:06.697 --> 00:59:10.697 here they're the kentucky boys and took my two favorite bands in the world. 00:59:11.277 --> 00:59:14.137 Are lamb of god and in flames and i 00:59:14.137 --> 00:59:17.237 got lucky enough to see them together in an abandoned 00:59:17.237 --> 00:59:20.777 airplane hangar down in louisville it was fucking amazing i've 00:59:20.777 --> 00:59:23.437 seen i've seen them both i've seen i've seen 00:59:23.437 --> 00:59:26.777 lamb of god multiple times in flames i've actually hung out with backstage 00:59:26.777 --> 00:59:29.857 hung out with them and bjorn and my son got pictures together 00:59:29.857 --> 00:59:33.137 and i've got i've got in flames lyrics tattooed 00:59:33.137 --> 00:59:35.957 on me i absolutely fucking love yeah i do too 00:59:35.957 --> 00:59:39.037 from the original uh you know original lineup 00:59:39.037 --> 00:59:42.337 all the way through now everything that they've done is absolutely 00:59:42.337 --> 00:59:45.477 amazing lamb of god i've seen them twice this year 00:59:45.477 --> 00:59:48.377 so i i've i decided to forego seeing 00:59:48.377 --> 00:59:52.097 them at louder than life because there was somebody else that my wife wanted 00:59:52.097 --> 00:59:56.897 to see i wanted to see the one that i really wanted to see that i didn't go 00:59:56.897 --> 01:00:02.297 see was lorna shore because my wife my wife wanted to see rob zombie she'd never 01:00:02.297 --> 01:00:05.337 seen him before so i was like all right whatever you know but i really wish 01:00:05.337 --> 01:00:06.557 that I'd gone to see Lorna Shore. 01:00:07.557 --> 01:00:09.977 Because we couldn't get close enough to see Rob Zombie anyways. 01:00:09.977 --> 01:00:10.977 It didn't really fucking matter. 01:00:11.838 --> 01:00:15.838 Or my sister, where she used to work in Connecticut, he would come in all the 01:00:15.838 --> 01:00:19.178 time shopping in the store. And I'm like, just go tell him that your brother-in-law loves him. 01:00:19.458 --> 01:00:23.438 I like his movies better than his music. His movies were top-notch. 01:00:23.578 --> 01:00:26.638 Yeah, Rob Zombie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's from up there. Yeah, 01:00:26.698 --> 01:00:27.398 he's from Massachusetts. 01:00:28.378 --> 01:00:31.358 And then Eminence was the other band that I really, really wanted to see. 01:00:31.358 --> 01:00:34.478 I'm a really big Swedish metal fan. 01:00:34.998 --> 01:00:38.258 That's my, yeah, I love Swedish metal. Eminence. 01:00:38.898 --> 01:00:45.638 Overculture is my new, yeah. So the venue that I work at, we've got Orbit Culture coming in March. 01:00:45.798 --> 01:00:47.858 Now, that's not been announced yet. 01:00:48.438 --> 01:00:51.698 Oh, that might be a ride. Well, I'm not going to name the venue. 01:00:51.698 --> 01:00:53.558 Because you're not going anywhere near here. I'm in country. Yeah. 01:00:54.318 --> 01:00:55.758 Yeah. It's all that's out here. 01:00:55.978 --> 01:00:59.498 If you want to make the trip over to Kentucky, I'll get you in for free. 01:00:59.938 --> 01:01:03.218 It's only like five and a half hours. Yeah. If you want to make the trip to 01:01:03.218 --> 01:01:07.018 come see Orbit Culture, you let me know. I'll get you in. I absolutely love that. 01:01:07.658 --> 01:01:10.638 They're going to be here. Soil work. I love soil work 01:01:10.638 --> 01:01:13.938 Pretty much anything from that area 01:01:13.938 --> 01:01:18.638 The Swedish metal band The Gutenberg sound I love it It's amazing But Orbit 01:01:18.638 --> 01:01:24.258 Culture's really Really taken off We had All Hail All Hail the Apocalypse Is 01:01:24.258 --> 01:01:29.098 the name of their song Guy dresses in a top hat He's got crow makeup on I can't 01:01:29.098 --> 01:01:33.178 remember the name of the fucking band I think of King Diamond Every time I hear that Yeah. 01:01:34.258 --> 01:01:38.658 It's very King Diamond-esque But not I can't remember the name of the band now 01:01:38.658 --> 01:01:40.958 But Avatar Avatar, Avatar, Avatar. 01:01:42.158 --> 01:01:46.798 Zach Sabbath is coming next month. So that's Zach Wild and company. 01:01:47.278 --> 01:01:51.718 Yeah. Got to see Lamb of God earlier this year with Pantera and that's the Zach 01:01:51.718 --> 01:01:55.238 Wild, you know, Pantera. That was great. 01:01:55.638 --> 01:01:58.458 Or no, actually that was last year for my birthday. It was, no, 01:01:58.558 --> 01:01:59.538 that was this year for my birthday. 01:02:00.613 --> 01:02:04.733 But yeah, orbit culture. Again, like I said, if you want to make the trip, let me know. 01:02:05.513 --> 01:02:08.853 Yeah, for sure. There's been, there's been, there's been, it's, 01:02:08.853 --> 01:02:09.533 it's one of those things. 01:02:09.693 --> 01:02:13.373 Like one of the last ones I saw at our old, it's, it's New Brooklyn Tavern. 01:02:13.473 --> 01:02:15.893 It's a real small place. I saw Texas Hippie Coalition there. 01:02:16.193 --> 01:02:19.833 I saw 200 stab wounds there. 200 stab wounds was un-fucking-believable. 01:02:20.413 --> 01:02:24.033 And, you know, I saw, we get them, we get them in real small venues here. 01:02:24.213 --> 01:02:27.133 So Converge was down here. They were fucking unbelievable. 01:02:27.833 --> 01:02:30.373 And I'll send pictures to the kids and my, Gerald will be like, 01:02:30.433 --> 01:02:32.653 are you at the stage? I'm like, fuck yeah. He's like, 01:02:33.552 --> 01:02:37.412 get away from the stage. What is wrong with you? I'm fine. I'm fine. 01:02:38.492 --> 01:02:41.432 I can do a lot if I want to drive the hour and change to Charlotte. 01:02:41.652 --> 01:02:45.392 I saw Hatebreed up there with Terror and a couple other bands, 01:02:45.572 --> 01:02:48.212 and that was a blast. It was their anniversary tour. 01:02:48.412 --> 01:02:53.512 I saw Anthrax's 40th with Hatebreed and Zach Wild on that one. 01:02:54.472 --> 01:02:59.652 I just love live music, and for me, the heavier, the better. He used to drive. 01:03:00.052 --> 01:03:04.272 That night you drove Jared. Yeah, I drove from Connecticut to Philadelphia to 01:03:04.272 --> 01:03:08.112 see Volbeat at a small venue before they were even known here in the States. 01:03:08.392 --> 01:03:10.512 And then I turned around and drove right the fuck back home. 01:03:11.012 --> 01:03:13.552 I saw Volbeat earlier this year, too. I love those guys, man. 01:03:13.612 --> 01:03:15.312 They're fucking awesome. They're great. 01:03:15.632 --> 01:03:19.472 The second time I saw them was a couple months after that. They were coming back to the same place. 01:03:19.792 --> 01:03:24.332 I drove down again, but I had also gotten in touch with the—I got to be friends 01:03:24.332 --> 01:03:25.492 with the old bass player. 01:03:26.232 --> 01:03:30.152 And I texted him, and he's like, just meet us here. I'll get you in for a sound 01:03:30.152 --> 01:03:32.512 check. So we went in and I'm a drummer. 01:03:32.792 --> 01:03:36.492 My son's a drummer. So he was warming up one of the kits on the side. 01:03:36.752 --> 01:03:39.172 They were on stage. They brought us up and they were, you know, 01:03:39.332 --> 01:03:41.052 pictures. It was amazing. 01:03:41.252 --> 01:03:44.252 It was absolutely amazing. They're just good dudes. Is that the one Jared was 01:03:44.252 --> 01:03:45.472 on stage for while they played? 01:03:45.632 --> 01:03:49.592 Yeah, he's been on stage. I think that or Godsmack, I wasn't sure. 01:03:49.652 --> 01:03:50.672 No, he's never on for Godsmack. 01:03:50.832 --> 01:03:54.012 But he met, we've, I've had, I've been very fortunate. I've had friends that 01:03:54.012 --> 01:03:55.552 know people kind of thing. 01:03:55.712 --> 01:03:58.812 And so we got a chance to get backstage at Mohegan for Godsmack. 01:03:58.812 --> 01:04:03.912 And we hung out with Sully and his daughter and it was, uh, it was the kids 01:04:03.912 --> 01:04:05.792 have, the kids have lived a good concert life. 01:04:06.012 --> 01:04:09.832 And, you know, we're, we're at a concert one night and Jared's on the phone 01:04:09.832 --> 01:04:11.592 with her on the way home. And I'm there with my best friend. 01:04:11.712 --> 01:04:13.212 And it's like, yeah, the seats sucked. 01:04:14.107 --> 01:04:17.587 Andy's like, Seat sucked. I said, bro, he's been backstage with these guys. 01:04:17.747 --> 01:04:20.207 He's done. And he's like, okay, I get it. I get it. Yeah, Seat sucked. 01:04:20.367 --> 01:04:23.687 I mean, we've been backstage with Stone Sour. 01:04:24.167 --> 01:04:29.887 I'm a huge Shadows Fall fan. So, yeah. So pumped to see those guys back together. 01:04:30.467 --> 01:04:34.827 That's my other favorite genre is the metalcore sound. I love it. 01:04:35.347 --> 01:04:41.247 I saw Kill Switch over this year. I've seen August Burns Red twice this year. I'm open for In Flames. 01:04:41.707 --> 01:04:44.967 They're fucking great, those guys. they're absolutely 01:04:44.967 --> 01:04:48.647 amazing who else I see Kubla Khan saw 01:04:48.647 --> 01:04:51.967 who else was it oh saw Trivium and 01:04:51.967 --> 01:04:55.087 oh hell what's the name of them they're from Wales 01:04:55.087 --> 01:04:57.967 my problem with Trivium is I wish they would pick a lane 01:04:57.967 --> 01:05:01.107 do you want to be Chick Metal or do you want to be Metal Metal yeah pick 01:05:01.107 --> 01:05:03.787 something it's like yeah I like them 01:05:03.787 --> 01:05:06.687 I like them anyway but you're right it was both for my Valentine and. 01:05:06.687 --> 01:05:10.127 Trivium they were both doing the fifth anniversary of their Muttrain 01:05:10.127 --> 01:05:13.347 did the 20th 25th anniversary of ld 50 at 01:05:13.347 --> 01:05:16.527 louder than life which was absolutely i love 01:05:16.527 --> 01:05:19.727 i fucking love mud vein yeah i do too i saw 01:05:19.727 --> 01:05:22.827 them back in i saw them back in the shit 01:05:22.827 --> 01:05:25.867 it was tattoo the 01:05:25.867 --> 01:05:29.587 earth it was the first tattoo the earth in boston in massachusetts 01:05:29.587 --> 01:05:32.687 okay and uh slipknot was a headliner it 01:05:32.687 --> 01:05:36.367 was slayer sepultura mud vein was on a side stage and 01:05:36.367 --> 01:05:39.227 it was it was bonkers it was slipknot was i've 01:05:39.227 --> 01:05:43.147 seen slipknot a few times and yeah i have to un-fucking-believable what 01:05:43.147 --> 01:05:45.927 a show first the first time i ever saw slipknot it was fucking 01:05:45.927 --> 01:05:48.667 weird it was slipknot and trivium and coheed and 01:05:48.667 --> 01:05:51.767 cambria of all fucking bands i don't understand why 01:05:51.767 --> 01:05:54.887 and i don't like coheed but i gotta say 01:05:54.887 --> 01:05:57.927 claudio can play the fuck out of a guitar i 01:05:57.927 --> 01:06:02.247 mean this dude was put it behind his head between his legs playing it i mean 01:06:02.247 --> 01:06:07.147 just playing the fuck out of the guitar but that was back when trivium was more 01:06:07.147 --> 01:06:10.947 they were still carrying the torch from metallica they had the cut off sleeves 01:06:10.947 --> 01:06:14.587 and the big hair and they were yeah you know kicking ass and they were really 01:06:14.587 --> 01:06:16.887 really good they only had like two albums out at the time. 01:06:17.808 --> 01:06:21.028 But yeah, Slipknot, I've seen them a couple of times. They're, 01:06:21.028 --> 01:06:22.408 they're really fucking good. 01:06:22.788 --> 01:06:26.948 They're really, really good live. But the, the venue that I work at, 01:06:27.088 --> 01:06:30.528 it's, you know, you mentioned small venues. This is a 1200 person venue. 01:06:30.948 --> 01:06:33.788 Actually. That's what I'm talking about. No, it's 1100 person. 01:06:33.948 --> 01:06:35.308 It's a hundred person venue. 01:06:35.508 --> 01:06:40.568 So it's, it's real small and it's, it's a great time. I've seen Guar there twice. 01:06:41.768 --> 01:06:47.228 They're Jesus Christ. The first time I saw him was before Dave Brocky died. The second. Oh, you see? 01:06:47.808 --> 01:06:52.328 Poor Odias, yeah. Yeah. The second time was after Allsack had taken over as 01:06:52.328 --> 01:06:54.088 the lead singer, and he's walking around. 01:06:54.168 --> 01:06:56.688 He's got four dicks, and he's squirting blood and come out of him. 01:06:56.788 --> 01:06:59.308 It's just one of the worst things that you've ever seen. Yeah. 01:06:59.508 --> 01:07:00.528 And absolutely hilarious. 01:07:01.108 --> 01:07:05.408 Yeah, it's absolutely hilarious. And I was working the VIP section when they 01:07:05.408 --> 01:07:08.828 were there, and I figured out just exactly how far out the blood would squirt. 01:07:09.048 --> 01:07:13.488 And when it was towards me, I would take a couple steps away so I didn't have 01:07:13.488 --> 01:07:14.448 to be covered in the blood. 01:07:14.568 --> 01:07:18.048 Then I'd step back to the, you know. We saw him at Toad's Place, 01:07:18.388 --> 01:07:21.008 which is a super old-school venue in Connecticut. 01:07:21.308 --> 01:07:24.008 And it's super famous. The Doors played there. Everybody's been there. 01:07:24.388 --> 01:07:28.428 And Jacob and I, my oldest son and I are there. And we're right in the middle of the stage. 01:07:28.688 --> 01:07:32.408 And I love Battlecross from Michigan. Oh, dude. 01:07:32.828 --> 01:07:36.848 Holy shit, I wish they'd get back together and keep fucking going, man. Love that band. 01:07:37.128 --> 01:07:40.188 We're there for one of the most amazing albums ever. Oh, fuck. 01:07:40.388 --> 01:07:42.468 So we're sitting there. Battlecross finishes. 01:07:42.908 --> 01:07:46.048 I said, come on. I'm not fucking standing right here for GWAR. 01:07:46.208 --> 01:07:49.108 I'm not we're not doing this and he's like i agree so we moved down 01:07:49.108 --> 01:07:52.968 by the sound booth which is just to the right of the stage and gore 01:07:52.968 --> 01:07:55.988 comes out it was it's a small stage so it's not like i have a lot of room to 01:07:55.988 --> 01:08:01.468 move around and when when ballsack came off during a break i said this is gonna 01:08:01.468 --> 01:08:05.268 die he's like he can't catch his breath he's chugging water i'm like i literally 01:08:05.268 --> 01:08:06.768 said to him i said are you okay i 01:08:06.768 --> 01:08:09.608 thought it was gonna be like cpr like he couldn't i said this dude's dying. 01:08:10.147 --> 01:08:12.807 So when they come out and they start pissing on a crowd. Yeah. 01:08:12.987 --> 01:08:14.987 So I watched, I'm like, we're good because they're not going to, 01:08:15.047 --> 01:08:17.467 they're not going to spray over on their fucking sound equipment. 01:08:17.767 --> 01:08:21.867 Oh yes, they will come. Oh yeah, they will. Because it comes over and I felt 01:08:21.867 --> 01:08:24.867 it hit my arm and I look, my Jacob standing right next to me, 01:08:25.027 --> 01:08:29.447 looks back at me and he goes, my mouth was open and I just, I just fucking died. 01:08:29.767 --> 01:08:35.007 Right. So we get home, we get home and the whole side of his face is dyed yellow. And I'm like, dude. 01:08:37.207 --> 01:08:40.167 Yeah they were yeah guau was guau was next level that 01:08:40.167 --> 01:08:43.207 was something else did they do ex-cops also 01:08:43.207 --> 01:08:46.607 no so that's no that's that's another 01:08:46.607 --> 01:08:49.927 band that they're in and they all dress up like fucking cops 01:08:49.927 --> 01:08:53.307 like you know one of them dresses up like a sheriff from you 01:08:53.307 --> 01:08:56.287 know an old 70s movie and one of them dresses up like a 01:08:56.287 --> 01:08:59.607 cop from new york back in the day with the blue i 01:08:59.607 --> 01:09:03.627 mean it's and it's crazy there's a guy that they they 01:09:03.627 --> 01:09:06.607 arrest and then sodomize with a nightstick and 01:09:06.607 --> 01:09:09.667 just all kinds of terrible things it's absolutely fucking it's just 01:09:09.667 --> 01:09:15.027 out of this world but battlecross i saw them for the first time with kill switch 01:09:15.027 --> 01:09:19.707 and now they're called code orange at the time they were called code orange 01:09:19.707 --> 01:09:24.667 kids yep and i hated them they were absolutely terrible which speaking of their 01:09:24.667 --> 01:09:27.987 lead singer at the time well she was one of their singers at the time. 01:09:28.147 --> 01:09:30.427 She was the guitarist for Marilyn Manson at Louder Than Love. 01:09:30.667 --> 01:09:35.187 But they were awful then. They're better-ish now. They're still not my thing. 01:09:35.427 --> 01:09:37.487 But Battlecross really... 01:09:38.099 --> 01:09:41.439 Made an impression on me and i've listened to them heavily ever 01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:44.259 since and i really wish that they would they haven't made 01:09:44.259 --> 01:09:47.359 an album since i think they've got three albums out 01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:50.519 they've just and they really 01:09:50.519 --> 01:09:53.219 really there's a lot going on there they really need to 01:09:53.219 --> 01:09:57.239 revisit because 1b is an absolutely amazing vocalist 01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:00.459 that dude has some incredible vocal range yep just 01:10:00.459 --> 01:10:03.319 they're they're they're guitarists working together and 01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.039 it's just the whole thing it was amazing they're a lot of fun to watch or 01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:09.179 a lot of fun to listen to i really drummer was about five foot 01:10:09.179 --> 01:10:12.039 four and a thousand miles an hour the bass 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:15.039 player looked like the dude from looked like the dude from rocky horror 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:18.499 picture show with that really really stringy barely 01:10:18.499 --> 01:10:21.239 his hair his hair and uh 01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.619 but man he was a fucking monster yeah he plays 01:10:24.619 --> 01:10:27.559 fuck out of that bass and i met i met some folks 01:10:27.559 --> 01:10:31.059 in florida that were from michigan and 01:10:31.059 --> 01:10:33.819 i just happened to mention battle cross to him and i don't 01:10:33.819 --> 01:10:36.659 know if this is true or not obviously because i don't i don't really know these 01:10:36.659 --> 01:10:40.219 folks but this guy was like hey you know i know that 01:10:40.219 --> 01:10:42.879 guy like he's like i i know this one i don't 01:10:42.879 --> 01:10:45.619 know the rest of them like he you know i see him 01:10:45.619 --> 01:10:48.679 all the time at the grocery store and all this shit and i 01:10:48.679 --> 01:10:52.619 was like that's you know that's really cool i really wish that they were still 01:10:52.619 --> 01:10:55.899 together still making music because they really had something there that they 01:10:55.899 --> 01:10:58.979 could have they could have been big if they were still you know putting out 01:10:58.979 --> 01:11:03.059 albums now they probably would have been you know they'd be more noticed they'd 01:11:03.059 --> 01:11:05.899 still be out there. They're great. They're really, really cool. 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.819 The first time I saw them was opening for Inflamed. 01:11:10.419 --> 01:11:15.179 As soon as I saw them back on the list, I was like, oh, we got to go back. 01:11:15.299 --> 01:11:16.959 And they were opening for GWAR. 01:11:17.139 --> 01:11:19.539 But we saw Dying Fetus. 01:11:20.707 --> 01:11:25.147 We saw Code Orange and the drummer was their lead singer. He ended up, 01:11:25.207 --> 01:11:27.907 they ended up getting an actual drummer so he could come out and be lead. 01:11:28.407 --> 01:11:32.247 And my kids used to listen to them beforehand. And I was like, 01:11:32.347 --> 01:11:34.807 I get it, but man, what the fuck? Where's one? 01:11:34.947 --> 01:11:38.467 Because the timing was so crazy in their music. I couldn't, I was like, 01:11:38.527 --> 01:11:39.687 I don't understand what they're doing. 01:11:39.907 --> 01:11:43.427 And it was like, there was this whole genre of music where they just did not 01:11:43.427 --> 01:11:48.707 play in, in a four, four time signature with their time signature was bonkers. 01:11:48.707 --> 01:11:51.467 And I wasn't I couldn't catch it and 01:11:51.467 --> 01:11:54.927 then they kind of started playing normal metal and 01:11:54.927 --> 01:11:58.707 uh it was it was just a different feel well Code 01:11:58.707 --> 01:12:02.127 Orange whenever they first popped up onto the scene I think 01:12:02.127 --> 01:12:05.067 it's true yeah they were they were a hardcore punk 01:12:05.067 --> 01:12:08.007 band so that had to do with their weird ass time 01:12:08.007 --> 01:12:11.447 signatures but oh yeah when when 01:12:11.447 --> 01:12:15.807 I saw In Flames and Lamb of God Hatebreed was 01:12:15.807 --> 01:12:19.247 so it was it was in flames with the headliner lamb of 01:12:19.247 --> 01:12:22.467 god went on before them hate breed was right 01:12:22.467 --> 01:12:25.807 before lamb of god and then dillinger escape 01:12:25.807 --> 01:12:32.767 plant was right before that so wow yeah i'm a big greg bucciato fan dillinger's 01:12:32.767 --> 01:12:37.967 awesome killer be killed is awesome killed be killed i really really like but 01:12:37.967 --> 01:12:40.927 i don't know what they're gonna do because brett hines was part of that band 01:12:40.927 --> 01:12:43.247 And he's no longer with us You know, 01:12:43.327 --> 01:12:47.367 he recently died in a motorcycle accident So I'm interested to see what they're 01:12:47.367 --> 01:12:51.207 going to do And Better Lovers He's got Better Lovers going on right now too. 01:12:51.867 --> 01:12:53.987 That's a great project Yeah, they're great, 01:12:54.987 --> 01:12:56.867 And then speaking of Brett Hines, you know. 01:12:57.950 --> 01:13:03.150 I really wish that had gone down better with Mastodon. I'm a big fan of Mastodon, 01:13:03.290 --> 01:13:04.450 big, big fan of Mastodon. 01:13:04.850 --> 01:13:09.050 So, but yeah, that was, that was a great show. That was one of the better shows 01:13:09.050 --> 01:13:10.050 that I've ever been to that. 01:13:10.230 --> 01:13:16.470 And in that airplane hanger, that and, uh, Deftones, Deftones for Deftones or Deftones. 01:13:16.610 --> 01:13:18.670 Deftones are always Deftones. They're fucking amazing. 01:13:19.470 --> 01:13:25.110 We had the chance to see, we had the chance to see Lamb of God in flames and hell yeah opened. 01:13:25.830 --> 01:13:29.390 And i've seen hell yeah like fucking 30 times every time i went to a show hell 01:13:29.390 --> 01:13:32.990 yeah opened and so we were waiting our friend was inside he was hanging out 01:13:32.990 --> 01:13:34.390 with the guys and it was right when, 01:13:35.250 --> 01:13:38.050 the basis quit so they're having a big fight in there 01:13:38.050 --> 01:13:40.710 so dennis is texting me going bro i'm not gonna be able to get 01:13:40.710 --> 01:13:43.330 you in here because it's just shit's going sideways and i'm like 01:13:43.330 --> 01:13:46.110 no big deal we're fine we'll just fucking go we'll head out 01:13:46.110 --> 01:13:48.930 of here and as jared and i were getting ready to leave a pickup truck 01:13:48.930 --> 01:13:51.650 pulls up in front of the venue security goes over there 01:13:51.650 --> 01:13:54.610 to kick him out and the whole fucking crew from hell yeah 01:13:54.610 --> 01:13:57.350 gets out and there's vinnie paul so i looked at jared i 01:13:57.350 --> 01:14:02.590 said fucking let's go we went right over and man he was as fucking nice as can 01:14:02.590 --> 01:14:05.930 be took pictures with us and everything so we had a chance to meet him and some 01:14:05.930 --> 01:14:09.550 of the other guys chad gray wasn't with them but it was just it was just fucking 01:14:09.550 --> 01:14:16.230 cool to meet vinnie paul yeah well you know you want to meet chad but if you have your choice, 01:14:17.097 --> 01:14:19.157 You're going to meet Don and you're going to meet Vinny. 01:14:21.237 --> 01:14:23.497 That's awesome that you got to meet him before he died. 01:14:26.817 --> 01:14:31.737 That's metal royalty right there. Unfortunately, I never got to meet those guys. 01:14:31.857 --> 01:14:36.657 I got to meet the guitarist of August Burns Red. 01:14:38.417 --> 01:14:43.777 One of the last shows that I worked was 311. No, not 311. Everclear. 01:14:44.457 --> 01:14:49.397 And I was standing outside and Art Alotakis just happened to be walking by and stopped and, 01:14:49.857 --> 01:14:52.737 talked to me for a second but then at the end of the show 01:14:52.737 --> 01:14:55.417 they put me on bus duty and so I was 01:14:55.417 --> 01:14:58.097 standing outside and Art came out to get onto the bus and he 01:14:58.097 --> 01:15:00.917 walked over he recognized me from before and stood there and talked to 01:15:00.917 --> 01:15:03.657 me for 15 minutes he didn't have to he walked up to 01:15:03.657 --> 01:15:06.597 me I didn't stop him he just walked up to me and the man's got MS 01:15:06.597 --> 01:15:09.637 for crying out loud and he didn't in a show he's probably tired 01:15:09.637 --> 01:15:12.757 as fuck you know he wants to get on the bus but he just walked up to me and 01:15:12.757 --> 01:15:18.857 started of talking to me and just a super nice guy and then i i got to meet 01:15:18.857 --> 01:15:23.637 i said the the guitarist for august burns red and i got to meet oh what's his 01:15:23.637 --> 01:15:29.497 name he used to be one of the lead singers of atreyu and he he shit. 01:15:30.547 --> 01:15:35.527 Bad Cupid, I think is the name of what it's called. And he's a really cool dude. 01:15:35.727 --> 01:15:38.807 I can't remember his name now. Alex Farkatsis, that's his name. 01:15:39.107 --> 01:15:43.447 And the name of that is something else. 01:15:43.627 --> 01:15:47.387 Anyway, it's been really cool getting to work there and getting to meet some of these folks. 01:15:47.627 --> 01:15:51.447 I worked there for Scarefest, the after party for that as well. 01:15:51.507 --> 01:15:53.207 And I got to meet the Crypt Keeper. 01:15:53.867 --> 01:15:57.567 You know, got to meet one of the guys that played Jason. Got to meet the guy 01:15:57.567 --> 01:16:00.467 that played Leatherface. You know, it's, it's, it's been a really cool place 01:16:00.467 --> 01:16:03.147 to work, but it's, it's a really cool place to see music as well. 01:16:03.307 --> 01:16:07.387 We just went, we just went, my, my youngest and I just went to a comic book 01:16:07.387 --> 01:16:11.567 show down here in Greenville and he got to meet one of the Jasons and got his, 01:16:11.567 --> 01:16:13.167 he's got a, he's got a Jason mask. 01:16:13.287 --> 01:16:15.947 So he had him sign that. It was very, super cool guy. 01:16:16.467 --> 01:16:19.927 We've completely hijacked this. This is got, it's hilarious. 01:16:20.467 --> 01:16:26.607 It did get her way off the rails, but in general, we'll, we'll circle it back around. Eventually. 01:16:28.767 --> 01:16:32.767 But I will tell you, the reason that I ended up getting sucked into the Taylor 01:16:32.767 --> 01:16:34.987 Swift concert is because of cattle decapitation. 01:16:35.467 --> 01:16:41.107 We were driving to Myrtle Beach and new cattle comes on and I'm, it's fucking killer. 01:16:41.447 --> 01:16:45.227 And she stops dead and she looks at me and she goes, this is why. I said, what? 01:16:45.427 --> 01:16:49.667 She goes, 30 fucking years of this shit is why you're going to take me to Taylor 01:16:49.667 --> 01:16:51.987 Swift. And I have no argument. 01:16:53.160 --> 01:16:56.420 Well i understand that and you 01:16:56.420 --> 01:16:59.360 said that and actually one more thing i'll say that put 01:16:59.360 --> 01:17:02.760 me in because you're a drummer infant annihilator the drummer 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:05.900 oh my god yeah holy shit he's sick holy 01:17:05.900 --> 01:17:10.060 shit that dude is sick yeah but yeah arch spire 01:17:10.060 --> 01:17:13.360 check out the drummer from arch spire fucking 01:17:13.360 --> 01:17:16.300 bloody even a dude from lorna shore these kids that 01:17:16.300 --> 01:17:20.200 are out there nowadays are just next level it's unbelievable 01:17:20.200 --> 01:17:23.560 well not even in a band ls to 01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:26.260 party oh yeah he's i don't 01:17:26.260 --> 01:17:29.640 even know what to say yeah holy shit i can't 01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:33.660 play half that stuff with forearms that dude is using one and smoking weed and 01:17:33.660 --> 01:17:39.120 drinking yeah yeah that dude is that dude is ridiculous but yeah lorna shore 01:17:39.120 --> 01:17:44.180 they've really they've really really taken the world by storm and rightfully 01:17:44.180 --> 01:17:48.080 so and another band that I saw while I was there that's really taking the world by storm. 01:17:48.200 --> 01:17:50.700 We're one of the fastest growing Slaughter I've ever been. 01:17:51.200 --> 01:17:57.780 Now, I didn't go on Sunday I wish I had because Slaughter is one of my they're 01:17:57.780 --> 01:18:01.180 awesome and terrible is fucking ridiculous. 01:18:02.721 --> 01:18:08.481 Oh, hell, Sleep Token. Now, I know a lot of people that are metal fans like 01:18:08.481 --> 01:18:10.101 myself that don't like Sleep Token. 01:18:10.521 --> 01:18:16.441 I do. I do. I think they're very, very talented, and they put on a really good 01:18:16.441 --> 01:18:17.901 show. Their lights are amazing. 01:18:18.121 --> 01:18:21.401 Their whole show, it's an experience itself. 01:18:21.721 --> 01:18:25.481 Yeah, I'm not a Sleep Token fan. I don't like Ginger either. 01:18:26.281 --> 01:18:29.621 Gojira, I like some of their stuff. I like Gojira. 01:18:29.621 --> 01:18:32.461 Ginger i like to look 01:18:32.461 --> 01:18:36.081 at her more than i like to listen to her the two 01:18:36.081 --> 01:18:39.301 bands that i listen to with female fronts are dying wish 01:18:39.301 --> 01:18:42.181 and a squalor grind and they are ridiculously good 01:18:42.181 --> 01:18:45.701 you don't like arch enemy no no really 01:18:45.701 --> 01:18:48.581 yeah okay i don't 01:18:48.581 --> 01:18:51.401 know i there's there's well kitty was there 01:18:51.401 --> 01:18:54.581 like i said that new album was fucking 01:18:54.581 --> 01:18:57.301 outstanding they they played mostly from the 01:18:57.301 --> 01:19:01.921 first album and it was yeah yeah amazing they're 01:19:01.921 --> 01:19:04.881 they're really really good but yeah i 01:19:04.881 --> 01:19:07.721 know a lot of people like i said don't like sleep talking but their their show 01:19:07.721 --> 01:19:12.861 was it was an experience it was it was worth seeing and uh considering that 01:19:12.861 --> 01:19:17.561 they cost four or five hundred dollars for shitty seats to be able to see them 01:19:17.561 --> 01:19:23.341 you know that's that's at least i got to see them but it was it was miserable 01:19:23.341 --> 01:19:25.801 but it was good experience. It was for sure. 01:19:26.181 --> 01:19:29.701 So shit. Okay. So back to beards. Yeah. 01:19:31.921 --> 01:19:35.621 We killed this. You can't get me talking about music. It happens. 01:19:37.501 --> 01:19:42.841 No, that's typically how this show goes. Well, it's either going to be straight to the point, like, 01:19:43.591 --> 01:19:46.911 question, stay to the topic, or it's just going to take a one, 01:19:47.011 --> 01:19:50.911 like 90 degree turn, go completely haywire and then come back. 01:19:51.131 --> 01:19:55.531 That's right. I mean, you guys were with us for, for the Toro podcast and for cigar dudes. 01:19:55.551 --> 01:19:59.551 And so, I mean, it's just like, I don't want to be, I don't want to, 01:19:59.631 --> 01:20:02.811 I don't want to just sit and I hate the scripted part. 01:20:02.911 --> 01:20:06.491 I like the organic piece of let's just fuck around and get to know each other 01:20:06.491 --> 01:20:09.251 and, and, and, and Hey, we've got this, we've got that. 01:20:09.291 --> 01:20:12.131 It's just, it's more enjoyable. you got 01:20:12.131 --> 01:20:16.071 to get to know the people and i love that part of it sure now 01:20:16.071 --> 01:20:19.211 one last thing on the music before we go 01:20:19.211 --> 01:20:22.491 back to beards and cigars and whiskey you bring 01:20:22.491 --> 01:20:25.351 up asking i'm out of here you start talking about 01:20:25.351 --> 01:20:28.891 chicken now no no last thing 01:20:28.891 --> 01:20:31.771 how adam was talking about sleep 01:20:31.771 --> 01:20:35.131 token and how they're it's a whole show like 01:20:35.131 --> 01:20:37.951 you got to see i'm not a fan of them but i will say i 01:20:37.951 --> 01:20:40.831 work at a major arena here and we got a ton of 01:20:40.831 --> 01:20:44.011 concerts and i'm not typically a country music 01:20:44.011 --> 01:20:46.811 fan or whatever but i am a fan of 01:20:46.811 --> 01:20:49.911 how some of these artists put on shows 01:20:49.911 --> 01:20:52.951 one of my favorite not that 01:20:52.951 --> 01:20:56.131 i went to one of the favorite shows i worked was uh 01:20:56.131 --> 01:20:58.831 post malone his show i knew 01:20:58.831 --> 01:21:01.551 you were gonna say crazy we saw i would like 01:21:01.551 --> 01:21:04.891 to see him yeah i'd like to see i would go see him i 01:21:04.891 --> 01:21:07.631 don't hate his music his music's all right but when i 01:21:07.631 --> 01:21:10.611 saw he was coming i'm like uh okay whatever 01:21:10.611 --> 01:21:13.251 i'll sit in the office the whole time and do what i 01:21:13.251 --> 01:21:17.011 need to do but i actually went out there the show he puts on was phenomenal 01:21:17.011 --> 01:21:22.091 it was another one i'd go see luke bryant luke bryant not like i said not a 01:21:22.091 --> 01:21:26.391 country fan he puts on a yeah a fantastic show interacts with fans and everything 01:21:26.391 --> 01:21:31.871 awesome that dude could knock on my door and i wouldn't know who he is oh same yeah. 01:21:38.455 --> 01:21:45.495 You'd know exactly who he is. We saw him in Columbia, literally. 01:21:45.835 --> 01:21:49.975 I did not. My son, Antony. A couple weeks, maybe a week before that everything 01:21:49.975 --> 01:21:52.915 shut down for COVID is when we saw him. 01:21:53.075 --> 01:21:55.955 And he was so good. He's such a great person. He's a great person. 01:21:56.135 --> 01:21:58.175 Oh, yeah. He is a great person. 01:21:58.855 --> 01:22:01.695 He strikes fantastic up there on stage. and it 01:22:01.695 --> 01:22:04.575 was so nice and it helped that old guy out and getting a break 01:22:04.575 --> 01:22:07.975 in music that old guy ozzy when he did that song yeah 01:22:07.975 --> 01:22:10.735 that was that was that was probably some of the funniest shit i ever 01:22:10.735 --> 01:22:14.135 saw like it's so nice to help bring that old guy out yeah i 01:22:14.135 --> 01:22:17.035 forgot about that i forgot about that yeah that old 01:22:17.035 --> 01:22:19.775 he just loves music in general he just 01:22:19.775 --> 01:22:22.615 he just he loves music no any type 01:22:22.615 --> 01:22:25.395 of music yeah his stuff during covid just where he was 01:22:25.395 --> 01:22:28.595 with guests on his youtube channel was fucking awesome 01:22:28.595 --> 01:22:31.555 where they're all just playing together from their house yeah we 01:22:31.555 --> 01:22:35.555 watched one of the one of the things online yeah yeah when he did the nirvana 01:22:35.555 --> 01:22:40.615 the nirvana album on covid was oh my god yeah that was amazing that was amazing 01:22:40.615 --> 01:22:45.675 yeah so they saw they saw post malone two weeks before the world shut down two 01:22:45.675 --> 01:22:48.995 a week after the world shut down we had tickets to flesh god apocalypse, 01:22:49.495 --> 01:22:52.895 and had to fucking get rid and had to lose those tickets that we were going 01:22:52.895 --> 01:22:56.035 to see him in atlanta yeah that was because it was their first tour over here 01:22:56.035 --> 01:23:00.955 in fucking years and we couldn't we We didn't get to see him as a metal fan. 01:23:01.475 --> 01:23:05.515 I can't, I mean, so one of my first introductions to metal was Pantera. 01:23:05.795 --> 01:23:09.795 And having said that, I can't completely hate on country because, um. 01:23:10.347 --> 01:23:13.587 Dime and vinnie's dad was a country artist 01:23:13.587 --> 01:23:17.207 yeah right that that's how they grew up was around 01:23:17.207 --> 01:23:20.387 country other hank hank you know hank williams 01:23:20.387 --> 01:23:23.067 and you know hank williams jr and all these other guys like they 01:23:23.067 --> 01:23:26.787 grew up around those guys yeah for sure and then 01:23:26.787 --> 01:23:29.727 you know it it branches off into like hank three 01:23:29.727 --> 01:23:32.907 i'll fucking love hank three you know and 01:23:32.907 --> 01:23:36.507 who hank three was in a metal band with shit 01:23:36.507 --> 01:23:39.567 uh phil anselmo and i can't remember what it was now 01:23:39.567 --> 01:23:42.747 was it it wasn't down it was super 01:23:42.747 --> 01:23:45.407 joint ritual oh yeah yeah yeah and i 01:23:45.407 --> 01:23:49.867 mean you know and then you know that that branches off and and those guys are 01:23:49.867 --> 01:23:56.507 now bringing back more of a outlaw country style which i really appreciate i 01:23:56.507 --> 01:24:00.387 you know this that bro country bullshit which is what luke bryan is you know 01:24:00.387 --> 01:24:02.907 that Jerry mentioned. It sucked. 01:24:03.207 --> 01:24:08.107 It's horseshit. But I can't completely hate on country because country... 01:24:08.898 --> 01:24:14.838 Did lend itself to metal in some way or another because Pantera helped shape 01:24:14.838 --> 01:24:20.998 what metal is today and without their dad, we may not know what it is now. 01:24:21.318 --> 01:24:24.658 So there's, there's, you know, I can't remember his name, something Abbott. 01:24:24.798 --> 01:24:25.718 I can't remember his first name. 01:24:25.878 --> 01:24:29.318 Anyway, without him, it may not be what it is today. And I don't think that 01:24:29.318 --> 01:24:33.378 when he started his musical career, he ever thought that anything he was doing 01:24:33.378 --> 01:24:35.698 would have anything to do with. 01:24:35.698 --> 01:24:42.598 In fact, there was a thing called the Wave of New American Metal, 01:24:42.638 --> 01:24:50.278 which would include Lamb of God and Shadows Fall and Killswitch Engage and all those guys. 01:24:50.978 --> 01:24:55.398 And without Pantera, those guys wouldn't exist. 01:24:56.038 --> 01:25:00.858 Oh, yeah. And you have to trace that back to their dad and his country roots. 01:25:00.858 --> 01:25:05.258 So it's, you know, it's the outlaw lifestyle, I think, that really lended itself 01:25:05.258 --> 01:25:09.298 to, I mean, you've got the others like Ozzy, you know, he was in England and 01:25:09.298 --> 01:25:13.978 that, you know, nothing that their dad had anything to do with had anything 01:25:13.978 --> 01:25:15.138 to do with him, obviously. 01:25:16.118 --> 01:25:20.718 But, you know, the two converged to create what metal is now. 01:25:20.918 --> 01:25:23.698 I mean, that's, there's, that's an undeniable fact. 01:25:24.018 --> 01:25:27.618 Hey guys, we appreciate you hanging out with us for part one with Tanya and 01:25:27.618 --> 01:25:30.758 John Aldi from the Beard Apothecary. Make sure you're subscribed so you don't 01:25:30.758 --> 01:25:32.378 miss part two dropping later this week. 01:25:32.638 --> 01:25:36.858 If you head on over to our YouTube page, the full video is already uploaded. As always. 01:26:28.402 --> 01:26:32.622 Bourbon beards and belveteers is produced by adam bolden paul rousseau and jerry 01:26:32.622 --> 01:26:37.342 allman edited by jerry allman music by ryan johnson you can find all of our 01:26:37.342 --> 01:26:42.742 links on our website at bourbonbeardsandbelvedeers.com and at beacons.ai forward 01:26:42.742 --> 01:26:47.982 slash bourbonbeardsandbelvedeers as always enjoy your bourbon and cigars responsibly cheers.

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