Episode Six Part 2

October 17, 2025

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You're listening to Bourbon Beards and Belvederes — part two with Tanya and John Aldi of The Beard Apothecary. In this episode the hosts and guests dive into the trial-and-error behind creating oils, balms, and a hypoallergenic tattoo balm, explain ingredient choices, and share grooming routines that keep beards healthy and itch-free.

Conversation then turns to cigars, whiskey, and community: tasting notes, favorite sticks like Three Kingdoms, pairing choices, veteran-focused events, and the importance of supporting local makers. Practical tips, product stories, and a giveaway round out the episode.

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WEBVTT 00:00:11.129 --> 00:00:16.829 You're listening to Bourbon Beards and Velveteers, the podcast where whiskey, 00:00:17.209 --> 00:00:21.569 cigars, and beard products aren't just a hobby. They're a lifestyle. 00:00:21.889 --> 00:00:26.269 Hosted by Adam, Paul, and Jerry, three guys with real experience, 00:00:26.629 --> 00:00:29.449 full beards, and even fuller glasses. 00:00:29.989 --> 00:00:34.449 Each episode serves up thoughtful tastings, laid-back cigar talk, 00:00:34.549 --> 00:00:38.009 and honest takes on beard gear and beyond. 00:00:38.009 --> 00:00:43.689 From top shelf pours to everyday essentials, this is the place where conversations 00:00:43.689 --> 00:00:46.049 flow as smooth as the whiskey. 00:00:46.429 --> 00:00:50.849 So, pour a glass, light one up, and enjoy the ride. 00:00:51.129 --> 00:00:54.709 This is Bourbon Beards and Belvederes. 00:01:08.726 --> 00:01:12.306 Part two with Tanya and John Aldi of the Beard Apothecary starts now. 00:01:12.726 --> 00:01:15.486 Enjoy. All right. You guys ready to get back into the beard stuff? 00:01:16.206 --> 00:01:19.326 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I feel better now. 00:01:20.846 --> 00:01:25.306 So this one's for Tanya, I guess, because she's the one that puts everything together. 00:01:25.666 --> 00:01:32.406 With your oil blends, your balm blends, the new tattoo butter that's coming 00:01:32.406 --> 00:01:34.046 out and everything else, was 00:01:34.046 --> 00:01:38.006 that like a trial and error? try to get the right ingredients in there? 00:01:38.106 --> 00:01:43.326 Or was that something that you had an idea of what you wanted and kind of got lucky? 00:01:43.846 --> 00:01:48.486 Nope. Trial and error because I was very unfamiliar with all the different butters 00:01:48.486 --> 00:01:51.386 and oils and what they do and how they are for the skin. 00:01:51.766 --> 00:01:56.166 So a lot of investigating, a lot of trying different things, 00:01:56.666 --> 00:01:59.546 seeing John experimenting on everything. 00:02:00.426 --> 00:02:03.486 I mean, it was easy to take out the stuff that we didn't like. Yeah. 00:02:03.626 --> 00:02:06.646 You know what I mean? the heart the biggest thing was making that 00:02:06.646 --> 00:02:09.926 the butter not greasy that was like the biggest 00:02:09.926 --> 00:02:13.026 thing and i was determined to get 00:02:13.026 --> 00:02:16.266 that right like i'm a i'm a pretty big germaphobe 00:02:16.266 --> 00:02:19.246 when it comes to certain things like i won't eat chicken wings because i 00:02:19.246 --> 00:02:22.006 can't stand getting that shit on my fingers i'll eat them with fucking 00:02:22.006 --> 00:02:24.866 gloves i don't make fun of me all day i don't care fork a knife i don't 00:02:24.866 --> 00:02:27.866 care and uh so to have that butter or 00:02:27.866 --> 00:02:30.786 the oil just sit on my fingers like to rub my i'm always 00:02:30.786 --> 00:02:33.646 playing with my beard so it's like to have that it would drive me insane 00:02:33.646 --> 00:02:36.686 so i was like that was number one can't can't happen and just 00:02:36.686 --> 00:02:39.286 that stiffness of the of the bomb i was like yeah that's a 00:02:39.286 --> 00:02:41.986 that's a no we're not trying that because that stuff's i 00:02:41.986 --> 00:02:49.746 was like that's miserable now the tattoo bomb i specifically our son jared are 00:02:49.746 --> 00:02:54.426 two older ones that have a ton of tattoos and jared had a reaction a really 00:02:54.426 --> 00:03:00.966 bad react allergic reaction to one of the tattoo butters that he bought before but he has an allergy. 00:03:01.346 --> 00:03:05.866 So I specifically wanted to make sure that there was nothing. 00:03:07.367 --> 00:03:12.747 It's hypoallergenic, you know, it won't clog the pores. It's very, 00:03:12.747 --> 00:03:16.987 it's very, very, it's a very basic ingredients in it. 00:03:17.547 --> 00:03:21.027 And it's also something, let me see, I read the norm of top ingredients. 00:03:21.907 --> 00:03:25.747 So what I ended up putting in here and same thing, it's, it, 00:03:25.827 --> 00:03:31.087 you, it's something that you will not find in any of the other ones. 00:03:32.527 --> 00:03:38.307 Capuocca butter, hemp seed oil, jojoba oil, evening primrose oil, 00:03:39.267 --> 00:03:41.067 candela wax, and vitamin E. 00:03:41.207 --> 00:03:45.507 So it is all natural. There's no fragrance in it at all. 00:03:46.047 --> 00:03:49.067 Totally different ingredients that all work amazing together. 00:03:50.632 --> 00:03:53.432 And no allergy issues this one here 00:03:53.432 --> 00:03:56.052 actually came together a lot faster than i thought it was going 00:03:56.052 --> 00:03:58.972 to come together and we're out here the first 00:03:58.972 --> 00:04:01.732 night she brought it out here she's like here try this i was 00:04:01.732 --> 00:04:04.732 lathering up his legs so i took 00:04:04.732 --> 00:04:07.812 a big scoop of it and i'm like man this is fucking oily she's 00:04:07.812 --> 00:04:11.032 like way too much 00:04:11.032 --> 00:04:16.332 yeah i scooped out yeah it was bad i took out way too much and it really is 00:04:16.332 --> 00:04:21.992 just a lot of our products is all the the less is more so you don't need a ton 00:04:21.992 --> 00:04:26.032 of it so it's gonna last but the way we're looking at it she doesn't she's got 00:04:26.032 --> 00:04:29.172 one on her ankle that she never takes care of and that's and that's the first 00:04:29.172 --> 00:04:30.512 one she put it on i was like. 00:04:31.392 --> 00:04:34.972 2004 yeah so yeah it's 00:04:34.972 --> 00:04:38.072 it's amazing and my my biggest thing is the allergies like 00:04:38.072 --> 00:04:40.852 i just really you know we did have one 00:04:40.852 --> 00:04:43.512 person though yeah a friend of mine a friend of 00:04:43.512 --> 00:04:46.532 mine he put he put the uh he put cheeky chops on 00:04:46.532 --> 00:04:49.452 no but it was the and the oil he goes he goes 00:04:49.452 --> 00:04:52.532 dude what's in here because it's kind of like i'm getting like this weird feeling 00:04:52.532 --> 00:04:56.472 on my skin and i'm like in a rash i don't fucking know and so he's like where's 00:04:56.472 --> 00:04:59.752 the ingredient what are the ingredients so i i screenshot it from the website 00:04:59.752 --> 00:05:02.512 he goes i guess i could have done that and i'm like yeah well it's on the package 00:05:02.512 --> 00:05:06.652 so he's looking at it he goes oh fuck i'm allergic to apricots, 00:05:07.192 --> 00:05:11.392 there you go so any but it wasn't anything that was bad it was just it made 00:05:11.392 --> 00:05:15.512 it it just kind of kind of made it tingle gave him a little rash was all it 00:05:15.512 --> 00:05:19.412 was but it was so it's not it's not an overwhelming so the important thing is 00:05:19.412 --> 00:05:23.452 that you men men read shit men read your ingredients instructions yeah wait 00:05:23.452 --> 00:05:26.352 we're supposed to read stuff yeah you're supposed to read the ingredients, 00:05:26.952 --> 00:05:30.452 i have a good friend of mine he he got it he put it in his beard he loved it 00:05:30.452 --> 00:05:34.932 his wife came up to him she's allergic to mango mangoes and he never fucking 00:05:34.932 --> 00:05:39.212 read it and like he's like oh my god so he had to go fucking running and wash 00:05:39.212 --> 00:05:43.532 that shit off but i made him one without without the mango i figured out a way to to get it to work. 00:05:44.861 --> 00:05:48.321 So this is the same, the child that we're talking about is the same one that 00:05:48.321 --> 00:05:49.421 went to tattoo the earth. 00:05:49.581 --> 00:05:53.061 He went to the 20th anniversary of tattoo the earth. I was at the first, 00:05:53.181 --> 00:05:55.801 he was at the 20th and he decided that was a great place to get a tattoo. 00:05:56.421 --> 00:06:00.401 On his hand. On his hand, got a tattoo. That ended up getting infected and he's 00:06:00.401 --> 00:06:02.341 already had it covered up. He had to have it covered up. 00:06:05.198 --> 00:06:10.538 It was a baseball bat with blood coming off of it and he had a reaction to the red ink in it. 00:06:10.638 --> 00:06:13.878 So he had something, he had to have something completely cover the whole town. 00:06:14.098 --> 00:06:15.938 Yeah. So we had that conversation. 00:06:16.398 --> 00:06:20.618 Note to self, don't get drunk and tattooed at a concert. Never going to end up well. 00:06:22.218 --> 00:06:25.818 But he was, he was really one of the, when she was putting the bomb together 00:06:25.818 --> 00:06:30.098 for the tattoo stuff, that was, that was in her, in the back of her mind is what can I use for him? 00:06:30.218 --> 00:06:33.538 That's going to, that's just not going to, cause he's, he's hyper allergic to 00:06:33.538 --> 00:06:35.358 some things. And she wanted to make sure. 00:06:35.498 --> 00:06:39.158 So if it's not, if he has no reaction to it, it'd be, I'd be very hard pressed 00:06:39.158 --> 00:06:42.278 to find someone that would. And I also, I have extremely sensitive skin. 00:06:42.758 --> 00:06:47.738 I'm like, I will break out from, with eczema and stuff from like, you know, anything. 00:06:47.778 --> 00:06:52.618 And also this, I've been putting it on some of the eczema on my like hands. 00:06:52.878 --> 00:06:57.878 I can't put a claim to, you know, of course on anything, but the tattoo bomb 00:06:57.878 --> 00:07:01.098 has like healed a spot that I've had for months. 00:07:01.098 --> 00:07:04.018 And it literally is like it healed it 00:07:04.018 --> 00:07:06.938 which is amazing and i've had no allergic reaction with 00:07:06.938 --> 00:07:09.698 it any of the products i can touch any of the products and i 00:07:09.698 --> 00:07:14.578 don't have a single sensitivity to them because i bought so many different just 00:07:14.578 --> 00:07:18.898 lotions and i've broken out everywhere and you know and another thing too it's 00:07:18.898 --> 00:07:23.418 all natural ingredients there's nothing you know it doesn't have 50 different 00:07:23.418 --> 00:07:28.918 ingredients like most things that we purchase at the store so super important, 00:07:29.618 --> 00:07:33.358 That's one thing I've noticed is I'll get eczema flare-ups on my hands. 00:07:34.758 --> 00:07:39.038 And what I used to do is after applying oil and balm and butter, 00:07:39.198 --> 00:07:42.258 whatever I put into the beard, I just wash my hands in the water. 00:07:42.638 --> 00:07:45.718 But over the years, I realized if I just kind of rub it into the hands, 00:07:45.838 --> 00:07:46.758 kind of like a lotion style. 00:07:48.463 --> 00:07:52.123 Might not keep the flare-ups from appearing 00:07:52.123 --> 00:07:55.023 yeah but it'll keep the itch down which is yeah 00:07:55.023 --> 00:07:58.363 at least for me is the main thing because i'll sit there and scratch it next 00:07:58.363 --> 00:08:01.683 thing i know i got this like sore on my hand it looks like i just got bit by 00:08:01.683 --> 00:08:07.263 this like crazy underground animal and it's just like no like as long as i keep 00:08:07.263 --> 00:08:14.643 my hands with decent oils butters and stay away from the store-bought eczema creams. 00:08:15.283 --> 00:08:19.063 Well, that's because you spend your life putting, and I've done it my whole 00:08:19.063 --> 00:08:22.323 life, but mine, I mean, my hands used to be raw. 00:08:22.743 --> 00:08:25.943 I literally use gloves for everything. I cook with gloves. 00:08:26.483 --> 00:08:30.643 I obviously clean with gloves, but I cook with gloves all the time because my 00:08:30.643 --> 00:08:32.063 hands were always opened up. 00:08:32.323 --> 00:08:36.703 And so I, oh, I love to bake. I love to cook. And I, everything I do is with, 00:08:36.823 --> 00:08:41.303 I always now just out of, you know, being used to doing it, but I have gloves 00:08:41.303 --> 00:08:45.463 on, but you get into that whole thing with like, you know, the cortisone cream. 00:08:46.183 --> 00:08:47.763 You're doing that. It's that cycle. 00:08:48.778 --> 00:08:52.118 Of having to put that on but then you know yeah it 00:08:52.118 --> 00:08:54.838 works at first but then your body gets used to it 00:08:54.838 --> 00:08:58.078 and it needs it and i've had i've you 00:08:58.078 --> 00:09:03.558 know had eczema literally my entire life so to try to find something that's 00:09:03.558 --> 00:09:09.178 different and you know without the steroid in it if you don't need it yeah it's 00:09:09.178 --> 00:09:15.678 really good do you let up the three kingdoms yet fantastic right i had to put 00:09:15.678 --> 00:09:17.198 a little stick in it so I could finish it off. 00:09:17.458 --> 00:09:20.138 I don't typically go that far into a cigar. 00:09:21.538 --> 00:09:27.138 Adam's not here right now, but Paul knows. I let it get down to about an inch 00:09:27.138 --> 00:09:30.198 and a half, two inches, and then I'm like, all right, I smoked enough of it. 00:09:30.278 --> 00:09:33.618 But if I'm going to the nub, it's a good stick. 00:09:34.018 --> 00:09:35.898 Yeah, everything he does is fantastic. 00:09:36.438 --> 00:09:41.098 He's got one of my favorite Sumatras in the Yorktown fleet, and the Preakness, 00:09:41.218 --> 00:09:42.858 do yourself a favor, get yourself a Preakness. 00:09:43.178 --> 00:09:45.778 It was unbelievable. 00:09:46.498 --> 00:09:49.418 Yeah and he definitely the castle 919 the castle 00:09:49.418 --> 00:09:52.878 919 was his release for pca and that 00:09:52.878 --> 00:09:56.438 was that's another just an excellent cigar yeah 00:09:56.438 --> 00:10:00.438 i'll definitely be checking more of his stuff out i don't want to i i typically 00:10:00.438 --> 00:10:05.678 go into try well anything whether it's beer products or cigars i don't feel 00:10:05.678 --> 00:10:10.138 like i'm not one to go and buy a whole lineup and try it out i want i'm gonna 00:10:10.138 --> 00:10:13.058 try all right, this is a Nicaraguan or Honduras. 00:10:13.058 --> 00:10:17.258 I know I like those, or I know these oils work typically well with me and I'll 00:10:17.258 --> 00:10:21.038 try one stick or a little sample kit like you guys had. 00:10:21.158 --> 00:10:23.958 And then I'm like, all right, now I got to go buy the whole fucking lineup because 00:10:23.958 --> 00:10:29.258 it's good, which is probably what's going to happen between this three kingdoms. 00:10:29.318 --> 00:10:32.538 I already did it with the, I guess I started with the dissident, 00:10:32.538 --> 00:10:33.898 uh, what was that? The rave. 00:10:34.258 --> 00:10:38.698 I've already bought a couple five packs and they got some fantastic sticks. 00:10:38.698 --> 00:10:42.658 So I'll definitely be on more for the stolen thrones and then with you guys. 00:10:43.078 --> 00:10:45.458 But yeah, this three kingdoms is fantastic. 00:10:46.815 --> 00:10:51.875 He's got such a great business model too. When he did Crook of the Crown, that's his one cigar. 00:10:52.255 --> 00:10:58.155 And he traveled literally like 350 days out of the year with that one cigar. 00:10:58.415 --> 00:11:01.955 Like he was on the road constantly for a year and all the money he made, 00:11:02.075 --> 00:11:03.715 there was no marketing, no nothing. 00:11:04.175 --> 00:11:08.415 Everything comes in, he does everything in trays. And when he took all the money 00:11:08.415 --> 00:11:10.975 from that cigar, put it into his next cigar. 00:11:11.155 --> 00:11:14.835 And it was just, and that's just how he built it up slow and low, 00:11:15.015 --> 00:11:18.735 just kind of going out around it. And he, he, he's on to something. 00:11:18.955 --> 00:11:22.755 He's definitely on to something as far as the business model and as far as the 00:11:22.755 --> 00:11:23.715 cigars are just wonderful. 00:11:24.695 --> 00:11:27.575 Yeah. I don't, Paul, have you had anything from Stolen Throne's? 00:11:27.895 --> 00:11:31.155 No. Yeah. We'll have to change that one. Just wrote it down in front of me. 00:11:31.375 --> 00:11:34.315 So I will, but I have to. We'll have to change that one. Yeah. 00:11:34.615 --> 00:11:38.615 And then we'll have to reach out, reach out to him and see if he'll, he'll come on because. 00:11:38.835 --> 00:11:41.715 What do you typically smoke? I mean, like, do you guys, for me, 00:11:41.895 --> 00:11:43.175 a lit cigar is my favorite cigar. 00:11:43.415 --> 00:11:47.175 I, I just, I love smoking cigars. So it's, I've got my mainstays, 00:11:47.275 --> 00:11:49.395 but I tend to, I, I stay away from Connecticut's. 00:11:49.475 --> 00:11:51.875 I am all about the medium, medium plus. 00:11:52.075 --> 00:11:54.855 I like a Madero. I like something dark, heavy, meaty. 00:11:55.655 --> 00:11:59.675 So it's like Blackworks is one of my favorite companies. So I I'll smoke anything 00:11:59.675 --> 00:12:02.575 by them any day that it doesn't matter of time. 00:12:02.975 --> 00:12:08.375 And so it's, I, I love that, that darkness and, and, and the richness that also bars. 00:12:09.115 --> 00:12:16.535 Yeah. I typically go towards medium plus the full body like flavor but stick 00:12:16.535 --> 00:12:18.435 to that medium medium plus body, 00:12:19.115 --> 00:12:23.855 I don't need to sit here for an hour and a half two hours smoking a cigar stand 00:12:23.855 --> 00:12:28.935 up and realize shit I gotta sit down for the next 20 minutes to sober up, 00:12:29.755 --> 00:12:35.215 stay away from the warhead 11 as we know this is warhead 11 with my ass that 00:12:35.215 --> 00:12:38.695 kicked my ass this three kingdoms it's, 00:12:39.515 --> 00:12:43.295 a medium plus body, but it has, it has a ton of flavor to it, 00:12:43.395 --> 00:12:45.735 which is right down my alley. Like. 00:12:47.554 --> 00:12:53.334 The three of us love Nicaraguan tobaccos. I've recently, well, 00:12:53.434 --> 00:12:58.094 not recently, over the last year or so, come to find out that the Mexican San 00:12:58.094 --> 00:13:00.834 Andreas wrapper is fantastic. 00:13:01.534 --> 00:13:06.014 Almost every cigar I've had with it has been great. I love that spice profile, 00:13:06.214 --> 00:13:09.074 that spicy chocolatey profile that comes off it that I get off it. 00:13:09.574 --> 00:13:13.434 But yeah, like a Nicaraguan medium body, full flavor. 00:13:13.994 --> 00:13:16.934 That's my go-to. that's i'd 00:13:16.934 --> 00:13:20.194 say paul's about the same there right yeah no absolutely i 00:13:20.194 --> 00:13:23.034 mean i think i think all 00:13:23.034 --> 00:13:26.394 three of us on this show are lockstep and 00:13:26.394 --> 00:13:29.174 what we like and that i think that's what we try 00:13:29.174 --> 00:13:31.994 to feature with different the different 00:13:31.994 --> 00:13:35.654 cigars we have on but yeah i mean with jc 00:13:35.654 --> 00:13:38.614 newman cigars a lot i mean that's my profile league 00:13:38.614 --> 00:13:41.754 five number nine it's probably my favorite just classic 00:13:41.754 --> 00:13:45.054 go-to cigar yeah it the the 00:13:45.054 --> 00:13:48.174 nicaraguan blend so i mean are probably my favorites that 00:13:48.174 --> 00:13:51.534 i try to try to you know seek out 00:13:51.534 --> 00:13:54.474 but yeah i mean the medium to medium 00:13:54.474 --> 00:14:00.994 full is is is where it's where i'm at yeah yeah i'll smoke i'll smoke anything 00:14:00.994 --> 00:14:06.254 i know what i want and i i tend to stay away from the heritage stuff just because 00:14:06.254 --> 00:14:11.814 it's that usually you're catching that one flavor one body there's no changes, 00:14:12.114 --> 00:14:13.774 no, there's no flavor changes, nothing. 00:14:14.374 --> 00:14:18.174 And so I get bored fast. So for me, I like, I like getting into the, 00:14:18.174 --> 00:14:21.894 the, the smaller batch stuff, the boutique stuff, the craft stuff that's going 00:14:21.894 --> 00:14:25.554 to have flavor changes, body changes in it. 00:14:25.694 --> 00:14:28.954 And just, I don't know, there's just a lot more love and passion that goes into 00:14:28.954 --> 00:14:32.214 it as opposed to that mass produced cigar that you get. 00:14:32.334 --> 00:14:35.174 And everything's got its place. I mean, if that's what you like, 00:14:35.234 --> 00:14:38.134 we always say smoke what you like. I might make fun of you. 00:14:38.975 --> 00:14:42.895 It's, you know, it is what it is. You know, we, we were doing an event and we 00:14:42.895 --> 00:14:46.475 had a sale, we were doing, we were doing a sale and the kid comes in the humidor 00:14:46.475 --> 00:14:49.855 and he's like, Hey, is everything on sale? And I'm like, yeah. 00:14:50.115 --> 00:14:53.115 I said, you know, I said, the special that we're running today is because he 00:14:53.115 --> 00:14:54.235 was standing by the flavor stuff. 00:14:54.375 --> 00:14:58.075 I said, you buy anything here. I won't make fun of you because that's, 00:14:58.175 --> 00:14:59.875 I mean, you're, you're smoking flavor stuff. 00:15:00.335 --> 00:15:02.595 And, uh, we're joking about, and I said, at the end of the day, 00:15:02.655 --> 00:15:03.935 I said, bro, you're smoking a cigar. 00:15:04.215 --> 00:15:08.355 If that's what you like, smoke it, enjoy it. You know, and that's what it boils down to. 00:15:08.355 --> 00:15:12.635 But you're going to get made fun of so just so you know oh yeah 00:15:12.635 --> 00:15:15.295 larry's yeah that's well i haven't had the lost and 00:15:15.295 --> 00:15:18.455 i haven't had the lost and found shit i 00:15:18.455 --> 00:15:23.355 can't remember i've had a caldwell he was fantastic i i'd have to i have a whole 00:15:23.355 --> 00:15:28.135 like case or box of all the cigar bands i've smoked i'd have to go through that 00:15:28.135 --> 00:15:33.235 see which one or go online and see which band sticks out i can't off the top 00:15:33.235 --> 00:15:35.915 of I had to remember which one, but it was fantastic smoke. 00:15:36.315 --> 00:15:41.095 Yeah, the Lost and Found series, there's so many. And Lair's a huge Lost and Found fan. 00:15:41.435 --> 00:15:47.775 And I was just at, so I work for Laura Cigars is one of my companies that I work with. 00:15:48.055 --> 00:15:53.555 And we were doing a whole thing down at smokingpipes.com. So Smoking Pipes is 00:15:53.555 --> 00:15:58.235 one of the largest online retailers for pipes, pipe tobacco, cigars, and all that. 00:15:58.235 --> 00:16:02.335 And when we went into their humidor, Tyler was like everything in the, 00:16:02.335 --> 00:16:06.395 on the gray shelves back there was just, and it's just boxes, boxes upon boxes. 00:16:06.515 --> 00:16:09.155 He said, that's all lost and found stuff. So I made sure to take a picture to 00:16:09.155 --> 00:16:11.555 send Larry. Cause that, that's his, that's right in his line. 00:16:12.055 --> 00:16:15.095 And he's like, if they need anybody to help with quality testing, 00:16:15.235 --> 00:16:17.915 just let me know. I'll fly out and just give me a hand. 00:16:19.295 --> 00:16:25.495 But you know what it is? There's so much good to smoke out there that the bad really stands out. 00:16:26.675 --> 00:16:30.275 And really it's not all bad because it just doesn't fit my profile. 00:16:30.275 --> 00:16:33.495 So what I don't like, you guys might love and vice versa. 00:16:33.835 --> 00:16:36.615 And that's the beauty of it is you can always find something to smoke. 00:16:37.877 --> 00:16:43.517 I mean, it's a perfect thing you said where even the flavored cigars and the 00:16:43.517 --> 00:16:47.457 sweet tips and stuff like that, I mean, it's a gateway. 00:16:47.897 --> 00:16:53.937 I mean, I went through college drinking bullshit vodka drinks, 00:16:53.937 --> 00:16:58.937 and then I got out of college, and I got deep dive into making my own beer. 00:16:59.097 --> 00:17:02.997 I was kegging so much beer that I would have to dump it out because I didn't 00:17:02.997 --> 00:17:04.877 have enough kegs to put my new batch in. 00:17:04.997 --> 00:17:08.797 I couldn't even give it away. I didn't start drinking whiskey until well after 00:17:08.797 --> 00:17:14.237 college, and my gateway to whiskey was fucking Jim Beam, Kentucky Fire, and root beer. 00:17:14.717 --> 00:17:20.117 And so now I think my palate's pretty decent on good whiskey, 00:17:20.157 --> 00:17:24.017 but I started with Kentucky Fire, which is a cinnamon whiskey. 00:17:24.277 --> 00:17:27.517 So, I mean, if you're going to start smoking... 00:17:28.380 --> 00:17:31.540 Acid cigars or anything like that with their flavor 00:17:31.540 --> 00:17:34.500 that's awesome i that's awesome 00:17:34.500 --> 00:17:38.120 we've all started there right the acid cigar 00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:42.880 was my first the acid kuba kuba was my first cigar that i remember that is the 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:48.840 number one cigar sold in the world exactly and so that's i mean smoke what you 00:17:48.840 --> 00:17:54.960 want what you like and if you smoke that for the rest of your life awesome great 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:57.540 i always i always tell everybody when we go in that humidor. 00:17:57.980 --> 00:17:59.640 I'm like, well, what do you like to smoke? And you're like, well, 00:17:59.740 --> 00:18:01.120 I like, I like the acid stuff. 00:18:01.260 --> 00:18:03.780 I like the, the, the, the Javas and I'm like, okay. 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.680 And I explained the process and I'm like, so that stuff is chemical based. 00:18:07.820 --> 00:18:10.600 I said, that is a chemical that is put into those cigars to give them those flavors. 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:13.900 I said, if you like the coffee notes or you like the, the, the, 00:18:13.900 --> 00:18:17.040 the, the dried fruit notes or the things that you like that is in that cigar. 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.980 I said, I want to get you smoking something. I 00:18:19.980 --> 00:18:23.340 want you to chase the tobacco that's going to give you those flavors so 00:18:23.340 --> 00:18:26.280 i said this is this is processed food and 00:18:26.280 --> 00:18:29.020 i said this is lettuce i want you to smoke the lettuce i said in a 00:18:29.020 --> 00:18:32.460 cigar there's no chemicals there's nothing unnatural 00:18:32.460 --> 00:18:35.240 in there even down to the to the pace that they use 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:38.220 to keep the wrapper on the cap yeah that is a natural 00:18:38.220 --> 00:18:41.040 element it's it's a natural pace so it's it's 00:18:41.040 --> 00:18:43.740 there's nothing in here that is you know you'd go 00:18:43.740 --> 00:18:46.400 to a doctor like what do you do i don't smoke cigarettes i 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:49.120 smoke cigars they've i've yet to have a doctor tell me to 00:18:49.120 --> 00:18:52.200 stop smoking cigarros no i wouldn't listen to him but it's 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.600 the idea that it's it's all natural you're not inhaling it and 00:18:55.600 --> 00:18:59.080 so trying to get those guys and i've done it i wear those guys like man i really 00:18:59.080 --> 00:19:03.100 like the coffee the coffee flavor all right that this is cheating because it's 00:19:03.100 --> 00:19:05.520 right there in your face now i'm going to give you some mexican san andreas 00:19:05.520 --> 00:19:08.920 i'm going to give you some maduros that you're going to get those hints of that 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.620 coffee and it's and that's the whole idea of you know what i taste and what 00:19:12.620 --> 00:19:14.780 you taste are different things because it's all, 00:19:14.780 --> 00:19:17.980 it's all in our heads. There's no, this is honey and water. 00:19:18.180 --> 00:19:21.300 That's what's in this. So it's a combination of those tobaccos. 00:19:21.580 --> 00:19:23.920 Yeah. Yeah. 00:19:28.443 --> 00:19:33.023 Yeah. So, so when you get those flavors that you're tasting, 00:19:33.243 --> 00:19:34.883 those notes are coming from memories. 00:19:35.083 --> 00:19:38.123 There's no cinnamon in a cigar. There's no coffee in a cigar. 00:19:38.303 --> 00:19:41.423 It's what you remember. When's the last, you taste leather, right? 00:19:42.103 --> 00:19:45.523 When's the last time you licked a fucking leather coat or a leather belt, 00:19:45.703 --> 00:19:47.583 but you know, that smell. 00:19:47.763 --> 00:19:51.063 I mean, I remember walking in, it wasn't even, what was the old leather store at the mall? 00:19:51.603 --> 00:19:55.203 Wilson, Wilson, suede and leather. You walked in there, you knew that leather smell. 00:19:55.643 --> 00:19:59.223 When you're tasting that, that's hitting that brain, that brain or something. 00:19:59.343 --> 00:20:02.503 We would argue, so on the podcast that I do with Cigar Dudes, 00:20:02.583 --> 00:20:04.523 we have Ish Olivan with us. 00:20:04.663 --> 00:20:08.023 And Ish is, he's a- He's a mastermind. He's a mad scientist. 00:20:08.723 --> 00:20:11.543 And so we go through all this. He's ruined a lot of shit for me. 00:20:11.783 --> 00:20:16.763 Like I swore to God. So for years, I was able to figure out what peppers I was tasting. 00:20:17.063 --> 00:20:19.963 Black pepper was on the front of the tongue. White pepper was in the back of the throat. 00:20:20.323 --> 00:20:23.123 Cayenne, that red pepper was all over your mouth and he 00:20:23.123 --> 00:20:26.023 would tell me there's no pepper you're not tasting pepper that's salt and 00:20:26.023 --> 00:20:28.783 i'm like bullshit and he ruined it for me like i was it took 00:20:28.783 --> 00:20:32.123 me years to figure that out and i was so excited because i thought i did and 00:20:32.123 --> 00:20:36.123 he's like no and that's and he's had that whole discussion over and over about 00:20:36.123 --> 00:20:40.683 the tasting notes and that that is all coming from your brain your brain is 00:20:40.683 --> 00:20:44.183 telling you what that tastes like so and that's where like i get so excited 00:20:44.183 --> 00:20:48.723 when i taste cinnamon there's no cinnamon in fucking cigars not in a naturally occurring cigar. 00:20:49.103 --> 00:20:52.743 It's honey and water is what it is. It's a combination of the tobacco and your 00:20:52.743 --> 00:20:53.803 taste buds in your memory. 00:20:54.003 --> 00:20:57.623 It's the same thing with coffee. So I don't drink, I don't drink alcohol. 00:20:58.283 --> 00:21:04.943 Coffee is my thing. Coffee is my thing. I love coffee. And it's the same thing. What I love, right? 00:21:05.443 --> 00:21:10.183 What I love is something that you don't, you know, but we all started on, 00:21:10.283 --> 00:21:12.143 you know, the diner coffee. 00:21:13.760 --> 00:21:18.900 In high school, you know, and moving up a diner, coffee, and then it was Dunkin' for me. 00:21:19.020 --> 00:21:22.240 And then now I can't even, that tastes like water to me because I love a really 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:25.680 dark, I love espresso, the really dark coffee. She loves burnt coffee, 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:26.380 so she goes to Starbucks. 00:21:29.900 --> 00:21:33.920 We have a very, we've got a good friend of ours, Ethan and his wife, 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.780 Katie, they've got a company called Drifting Drams Coffee. 00:21:37.280 --> 00:21:40.940 And it started out of their love for whiskey and they travel all over the country 00:21:40.940 --> 00:21:45.840 and they started home roasting and their coffee is fucking next level. 00:21:46.060 --> 00:21:50.940 It is so good. And they do one called a cigar blend and I don't drink coffee. 00:21:51.140 --> 00:21:52.920 All my coffee goes into a protein shake. 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:56.800 And, uh, that's, I get that little extra kick from the caffeine into the protein 00:21:56.800 --> 00:22:01.320 shake and it makes me happy. And it is, I have yet to find a cigar that did 00:22:01.320 --> 00:22:05.320 not pair with that cigar blend coffee. And it's just, it's, it's, it's amazing. 00:22:05.500 --> 00:22:08.300 And I, and I, I'll buy my coffees and 00:22:08.300 --> 00:22:11.020 from them and it's all you know ground up and i'll 00:22:11.020 --> 00:22:14.000 just throw it into my shake every day and i got my my everyday one 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.820 that i've got they just did a churro blend that is 00:22:16.820 --> 00:22:19.860 a dessert coffee it's very good that's very 00:22:19.860 --> 00:22:25.840 very good so it's so it's in again it's all very subjective what you like that's 00:22:25.840 --> 00:22:29.920 what you like going for it if you like yeah that's what that's what i've given 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:35.520 back to it's just like smoke drink what you like and it could evolve into you 00:22:35.520 --> 00:22:38.760 know an absolute obsession Like we all have, 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:42.740 which I don't recommend because it's your wallet, 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:47.540 but, but, but you can deep dive into it as you know, but if, 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:52.260 if you like bullshit whiskey or bullshit cigars and that's what you like, 00:22:52.540 --> 00:22:53.740 smoke bullshit whiskey and, 00:22:54.320 --> 00:22:57.100 you know, smoke bullshit scars, drink bullshit whiskey. 00:22:58.277 --> 00:23:01.977 If that's what you like, that's awesome. But more than likely, 00:23:02.137 --> 00:23:05.517 it's going to evolve your palate into something else. And you're going to, 00:23:05.537 --> 00:23:09.597 you know, welcome yourself into a different world and, you know, 00:23:09.677 --> 00:23:11.117 groups of friends and things like that. 00:23:11.177 --> 00:23:15.017 You can talk about better stuff and, you know, get recommendations on better 00:23:15.017 --> 00:23:17.677 things and can evolve your palate, can evolve your senses. 00:23:17.917 --> 00:23:21.717 And there's a gateway for everything. And I think that, like, 00:23:21.857 --> 00:23:25.457 if anybody's going to just, you know, smoke a black and mild, that's awesome. 00:23:25.757 --> 00:23:29.657 Smoke black and mild, you know. And then if you like a black mod, 00:23:29.677 --> 00:23:33.657 I can tell you something that you probably might like smoke that's kind of similar 00:23:33.657 --> 00:23:38.197 to that, that, you know, might lead you down, in my mind, a better path, you know. 00:23:40.632 --> 00:23:43.012 If you want to smoke black and mild for the rest of your life, 00:23:43.132 --> 00:23:44.952 you can still be my friend. Have at it. Yep. 00:23:45.292 --> 00:23:48.652 Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, we're going to make fun of you. There's no question. It's what we do. 00:23:48.952 --> 00:23:51.152 Oh, of course. That's our job. I'm going to make fun of you. 00:23:51.152 --> 00:23:54.272 I'm going to make fun of you smoke $100 cigars because I think you're okay. 00:23:54.812 --> 00:23:56.552 So, you know, I'm going to make fun of you for anything. 00:23:57.312 --> 00:23:59.712 Those are really big ones. Those are really big cigars. Oh, yeah. 00:23:59.772 --> 00:24:04.692 Everybody wants the big eight by eighties and all the crazy ring gauges. 00:24:04.972 --> 00:24:07.692 And I'm like, we always make fun of them. 00:24:07.932 --> 00:24:10.312 But it's like, if that's what they enjoy, that's what they enjoy. 00:24:10.312 --> 00:24:14.632 You but i don't i like i like my stuff in a corona to a robusto i like a smaller 00:24:14.632 --> 00:24:19.352 cigar only because i can smoke more of them i mean i'm smoking anywhere from 00:24:19.352 --> 00:24:21.772 three to five a day is my normal 00:24:22.152 --> 00:24:25.352 you know like yesterday at the event i must have fuck i 00:24:25.352 --> 00:24:28.272 didn't smoke on the way up there but i was i had a cigar in my hand the entire 00:24:28.272 --> 00:24:31.212 day and you know so it was like just about eight hours 00:24:31.212 --> 00:24:34.012 of that and then i lit up again on the ride home just the past 00:24:34.012 --> 00:24:37.112 time so it's just so it's all about community too 00:24:37.112 --> 00:24:40.612 yeah the community is our community it's just everyone is 00:24:40.612 --> 00:24:43.292 family everyone's family like i 00:24:43.292 --> 00:24:47.612 love i love when we go and we finally like i've seen them on the screen but 00:24:47.612 --> 00:24:52.612 finally to get to meet people in person is absolutely amazing like i i love 00:24:52.612 --> 00:24:57.372 it we've been doing the toro toro veterans day veteran day event third year 00:24:57.372 --> 00:25:01.992 yeah yeah this will be our third year doing that and it's our anniversary actually on veterans day. 00:25:02.832 --> 00:25:08.212 But yeah, three years ago, that's what we did. It's funny because our anniversary 00:25:08.212 --> 00:25:10.152 two years ago, I plan on taking her to Savannah. 00:25:10.752 --> 00:25:16.172 And my friend Jake is like, bro, we're having a cigar, the Toro Cigar Veterans 00:25:16.172 --> 00:25:17.392 Day event. You guys should come up. 00:25:17.832 --> 00:25:21.392 I'm like, it's my anniversary. I'm taking her to Savannah. We're going away for the weekend. 00:25:22.192 --> 00:25:27.172 And she pipes up. Why don't we do that? I'm like, what? Because I was so excited. 00:25:27.792 --> 00:25:31.252 I'm like, I'm not going to say no to a cigar event. and so 00:25:31.252 --> 00:25:34.012 we went and we had an absolute blast and 00:25:34.012 --> 00:25:37.072 it was our first time so we hit a whole bunch of lounges around toro 00:25:37.072 --> 00:25:39.952 and then you get to toro and i'm buying more cigars there we got 00:25:39.952 --> 00:25:43.012 back to the airbnb and i opened up the duffel bag my backpack and 00:25:43.012 --> 00:25:46.432 i'm just dumping out piles of cigars and i looked at her and i said it just 00:25:46.432 --> 00:25:50.092 got away from me and it just got away from me because i was in these lounges 00:25:50.092 --> 00:25:55.632 that i had you know willie's up in newport news in virginia he had he had og 00:25:55.632 --> 00:26:01.152 purple reigns on the shelf and he does his, his house blends are done by Rojas, 00:26:01.332 --> 00:26:04.792 which is the factory that Saul and Thrones comes out of. They're the best house 00:26:04.792 --> 00:26:05.792 blends I've ever smoked. 00:26:05.972 --> 00:26:10.292 And they're, they're in his, his top three sellers are his, are his house blends. 00:26:10.752 --> 00:26:14.632 And you can buy them for eight bucks a piece. I had mountains of those. 00:26:14.812 --> 00:26:18.232 I just, all kinds of cigars and it's just stuff that I couldn't get down here. 00:26:18.612 --> 00:26:21.292 And then. Well, I wasn't, I wasn't with you. She wasn't with me. 00:26:21.292 --> 00:26:26.592 I went back today at a really cute Airbnb, so he went to all, we had breakfast, 00:26:26.792 --> 00:26:29.692 and then he went with the guys to the lounges, and I just watched, 00:26:29.812 --> 00:26:33.732 I went back and watched Hallmark and put on a little gas fireplace and hung 00:26:33.732 --> 00:26:37.792 out, and then met them at the house after for the big party after. 00:26:38.332 --> 00:26:42.692 But it's so much fun. I just, and I love all the cigar guys to death. 00:26:42.912 --> 00:26:46.072 But she's also had the chance to be in a lounge with me, because I love, 00:26:46.172 --> 00:26:47.592 we love just being out together. 00:26:47.832 --> 00:26:50.832 She's in a lounge. She only smokes cigarettes. Cigars take too long. 00:26:51.292 --> 00:26:56.072 I have no patience. I do not have the patience whatsoever to smoke a cigar. 00:26:56.292 --> 00:27:00.672 I could sit and smoke a pack of cigarettes right now, but it's too much of a 00:27:00.672 --> 00:27:03.652 commitment for me. If I have a cigar, it'll be... 00:27:04.705 --> 00:27:08.985 What do you call it? It'll be the sweet little ones. And I sit and I puff it 00:27:08.985 --> 00:27:10.705 and just wait. I can't wait till it's over. 00:27:12.705 --> 00:27:16.165 So we're sitting there this one afternoon. It's just me and her. 00:27:16.345 --> 00:27:19.205 Some guy walks up and, you know, chairs are in a circle. And guy comes up and 00:27:19.205 --> 00:27:21.085 goes, hey, can I have a seat? Like, yeah, absolutely. Sits down. 00:27:21.625 --> 00:27:25.105 Within 15 minutes, we're just bullshitting away. He's telling us all kinds of 00:27:25.105 --> 00:27:26.725 stories about his life on and on and on. 00:27:27.165 --> 00:27:30.885 And I looked at her later. I'm like, that's the community. That's the community. 00:27:30.885 --> 00:27:34.725 But we see that too, any smoking community. because we've been on two cruises, 00:27:35.545 --> 00:27:37.505 and we spend the whole time. 00:27:37.865 --> 00:27:40.945 We've been on two celebrity cruises and they have the sunset. 00:27:41.405 --> 00:27:44.705 What is it? Sunset, whatever, bar. Yeah. 00:27:45.105 --> 00:27:49.085 And that's like the smoking section. And every single, I'm the early riser. 00:27:49.285 --> 00:27:52.985 I would get my cappuccino every morning and go up and I wouldn't... 00:27:53.731 --> 00:27:56.391 Both times meet the nicest people ever in the 00:27:56.391 --> 00:27:59.251 smoking section in the morning meet them up there 00:27:59.251 --> 00:28:02.111 every single morning and smoke cigarettes drink 00:28:02.111 --> 00:28:04.731 coffee while he slept got up we'd go 00:28:04.731 --> 00:28:07.951 back we met the we've met some of the nicest people 00:28:07.951 --> 00:28:10.851 in the smoking section i mean 00:28:10.851 --> 00:28:15.691 it's so funny and the difference of what the different conversations you'll 00:28:15.691 --> 00:28:20.331 have with people when you're sitting you know like a community like that i know 00:28:20.331 --> 00:28:24.451 it's hard to our last one i brought cigars with me obviously I packed a big 00:28:24.451 --> 00:28:27.991 box of them and we were at sea a little too long the first couple of days. 00:28:28.211 --> 00:28:32.811 And I put down quite a few cigars for the day because the dude knew me after the first day. 00:28:32.991 --> 00:28:37.211 So if it was before five o'clock, I got the nice, cool, refreshing drink. 00:28:37.351 --> 00:28:38.731 And for that, it was old fashions. 00:28:39.111 --> 00:28:41.591 And I would just sit up there and he would say, Mr. John, he would just bring 00:28:41.591 --> 00:28:45.531 me stuff all the time. So I looked at her, I said, we're pulling into San Juan. 00:28:45.671 --> 00:28:48.571 And I said, bro, I got to find a fucking cigar shop. She's like, what? 00:28:48.671 --> 00:28:51.451 I said, I'm not going to make the trip. If we're out to sea any 00:28:51.451 --> 00:28:54.911 longer i'm gonna be fucking out of cigars and i'm gonna be miserable so i 00:28:54.911 --> 00:28:57.871 called my best friend miyagi i said bro he's from he's 00:28:57.871 --> 00:29:00.611 from puerto rico he he he worked in san juan 00:29:00.611 --> 00:29:04.891 i said where do i go he goes find a cigar house found a cigar house it was the 00:29:04.891 --> 00:29:08.171 name of the place it's the oldest one in san juan father father cigar house 00:29:08.171 --> 00:29:15.371 no cigar house was it was two humidors the back humidor was just all the old 00:29:15.371 --> 00:29:19.691 stuff i was buying and buying it was it was a blast It was an absolute blast. 00:29:20.031 --> 00:29:22.891 Re-upped everything. I was good to go for the trip. But it's just, 00:29:22.971 --> 00:29:27.911 I love seeing those little places all over where you can find stuff that you can't normally get. 00:29:28.071 --> 00:29:30.531 And I stay away from the Cubans. I don't know enough about them. 00:29:30.651 --> 00:29:35.431 I've only had probably three Cubans in my life that were legit Cubans that were 00:29:35.431 --> 00:29:37.491 absolutely amazing. Cool. 00:29:38.833 --> 00:29:42.013 But other than that, I'm not spending that money on them. There's no mystique 00:29:42.013 --> 00:29:45.193 to it to me. 90% of them are fucking fake anyways. 00:29:46.533 --> 00:29:50.313 Yeah, any of the communities that work, whether it's the cigar community, 00:29:50.473 --> 00:29:54.253 the beer product, the beer community, or the whiskey community, 00:29:54.253 --> 00:29:56.933 that's how the three of us met. 00:29:57.153 --> 00:30:01.973 We met on a podcast back in, was that 2019, 2020? 00:30:02.653 --> 00:30:06.973 The three of us became good friends along with a handful of other people. 00:30:07.633 --> 00:30:10.473 And shit we would hang out every week it 00:30:10.473 --> 00:30:13.273 would be on a zoom call or something none of us 00:30:13.273 --> 00:30:16.673 well there was a handful of us that met each other but a bunch 00:30:16.673 --> 00:30:19.533 of us never met each other up until i met finally met adam 00:30:19.533 --> 00:30:24.213 in person was that two years ago three years ago and then i finally met paul 00:30:24.213 --> 00:30:28.713 in person finally met paul in person this year we were doing this podcast for 00:30:28.713 --> 00:30:36.813 two years before i even met him in person and it just the community through the three the beard the 00:30:37.173 --> 00:30:42.173 whiskey and the cigar community is, is crazy in a bunch of different groups, 00:30:42.373 --> 00:30:44.313 whether it's on discord or Facebook with the, uh, 00:30:45.393 --> 00:30:47.153 cigar and beard community. 00:30:47.293 --> 00:30:50.933 And, and some of the nicest people you ever meet, any of them, 00:30:51.073 --> 00:30:55.253 and they'll do anything for you. If you need something, they'll help you out. 00:30:55.433 --> 00:31:00.233 So we obviously came from the whiskey community and we're trying to branch out 00:31:00.233 --> 00:31:01.993 into the other ones. And it's. 00:31:03.229 --> 00:31:08.309 It's the same, like same people for the most part, great people that will literally 00:31:08.309 --> 00:31:10.889 do whatever that needs to be done. If you need something done. 00:31:11.349 --> 00:31:14.149 Yeah. We, we joke about it all the time about being down here. 00:31:14.289 --> 00:31:15.509 We moved down here, didn't know a soul. 00:31:15.669 --> 00:31:18.769 Like legitimately, if there's, if I know anybody, they're down Myrtle beach. 00:31:18.929 --> 00:31:21.109 We're right in the middle of South Carolina. 00:31:21.609 --> 00:31:24.449 So I'm like, you know, it's kind of like, I got that girlfriend that lives in, 00:31:24.529 --> 00:31:28.209 in Canada that I tell my friends about. All my friends are online. 00:31:28.649 --> 00:31:31.689 Literally all my friends are online. I don't hang out with anybody down here. i 00:31:31.689 --> 00:31:34.389 have a few friends that i can go to and go and hang out with a little 00:31:34.389 --> 00:31:39.549 bit but all my friends are online and i talk to them every day all day so i 00:31:39.549 --> 00:31:43.509 mean with this text messages discord zooms herps whatever it is we're together 00:31:43.509 --> 00:31:46.729 all the time like i always joke about being the uh we're the outcast i'm the 00:31:46.729 --> 00:31:49.549 outcast down here i play the heavy metal music i've literally watched people 00:31:49.549 --> 00:31:52.489 walk on the other side of the street in front of my house when i got the garage 00:31:52.489 --> 00:31:53.549 door open and the shit playing, 00:31:54.089 --> 00:31:57.449 and and i'm okay with that because generally she's like you're a people person 00:31:57.449 --> 00:32:00.009 i'm like No, I generally hate people. 00:32:00.249 --> 00:32:05.289 But our people, the community, is what I love. Or I'll say I'm not a people 00:32:05.289 --> 00:32:07.189 person, and yet I will talk to anybody. 00:32:08.837 --> 00:32:11.577 I like a certain group of people and that's the cigar community. 00:32:11.797 --> 00:32:15.357 And it's, that's cause it's been, it's been nothing but a phenomenal experience. 00:32:15.597 --> 00:32:18.897 And it's just, those are, those are where I've met my best friends. 00:32:19.077 --> 00:32:23.077 And I talked to three of my best friends. One of them, Rob was on here. 00:32:23.197 --> 00:32:24.657 Rob was, he was actually the best man at my wedding. 00:32:25.057 --> 00:32:29.957 And we've been friends since, since college. And, and the, there's that core group. 00:32:30.097 --> 00:32:32.997 We talk every single day and just breaking each other's balls. 00:32:33.137 --> 00:32:36.217 But there's that, you know, one or two people from home that I talked to. 00:32:36.217 --> 00:32:39.517 And but again down here you know 00:32:39.517 --> 00:32:42.617 we're not we're not super spiritual or religious so 00:32:42.617 --> 00:32:45.397 it's like this is a whole nother world down here tiny got 00:32:45.397 --> 00:32:48.157 introduced in an introduction to the bible belt when she did 00:32:48.157 --> 00:32:51.837 laundry one day at the laundromat and crumpley came home and said we're fucking 00:32:51.837 --> 00:32:59.697 buying a washer i've never had to use a laundromat before and i i was at maybe 00:32:59.697 --> 00:33:03.597 two weeks or something i don't know and i would go but i wouldn't leave the 00:33:03.597 --> 00:33:05.957 laundry because i didn't know if someone would steal it or not. 00:33:06.177 --> 00:33:07.937 So I would sit there the whole time. 00:33:08.177 --> 00:33:11.897 So I'd have all of these people talking to me. I read to my wife, which was fine. 00:33:12.237 --> 00:33:15.737 And the last time I went, it was a really, really elderly woman. 00:33:16.137 --> 00:33:19.157 And I said, let me be nice and carry her stuff out to her car. 00:33:19.377 --> 00:33:22.077 So then she starts asking what church we go to. 00:33:22.437 --> 00:33:25.817 And I said, oh, we don't go to church. You know, we're less Catholics, blah, blah, blah. 00:33:26.077 --> 00:33:28.397 And then she proceeds to tell me that we're going to go to hell. 00:33:28.637 --> 00:33:32.997 So I came home and I said, we're going out today and we're going to buy washer 00:33:32.997 --> 00:33:36.117 and dryer because I'm never going back to the laundromat again. 00:33:36.537 --> 00:33:37.437 I said we got a washer and dryer. 00:33:38.537 --> 00:33:42.777 Yep. Yep. So that's definitely different down here. 00:33:43.317 --> 00:33:46.737 And I'm fine. I'm fine with it. Whatever makes people happy, 00:33:46.817 --> 00:33:49.317 that's fine. It's just the hard thing. I walk the dogs every Sunday. 00:33:49.437 --> 00:33:52.037 I walk the dogs every day, but Sunday mornings are the best because everybody's 00:33:52.037 --> 00:33:55.057 in church. Sunday mornings I go grocery shopping and I go to the stores because 00:33:55.057 --> 00:33:56.817 there's like not a lot of people there. 00:33:57.757 --> 00:33:59.937 The heathens over here. But... 00:34:01.591 --> 00:34:07.671 Yeah, it's different. That part's different. It's nice. Definitely different than living up north. 00:34:08.691 --> 00:34:11.671 No snow, so it's plus. Yeah. 00:34:13.311 --> 00:34:16.371 So, John, what's your go-to beer routine? 00:34:17.011 --> 00:34:23.351 So every day I get up, I sleep with a mask on. The CPAP. CPAP mask. 00:34:23.491 --> 00:34:24.931 So I get up and it's all fucked up. 00:34:25.391 --> 00:34:31.171 And I shower the night before. So I go to bed. It's nice. But in the morning, 00:34:31.251 --> 00:34:33.511 I'll wake up and then I'll just go in there, brush my teeth. 00:34:33.671 --> 00:34:37.911 I wet my beard down, dry it with a towel, brush it out, get ready. 00:34:38.011 --> 00:34:40.031 And then I'll straight brush it. 00:34:40.151 --> 00:34:43.311 I got one of those Arkham heated brushes, get it all straight, 00:34:43.711 --> 00:34:46.271 throw some beard butter in, brush it again. And I'm done for the day. 00:34:46.471 --> 00:34:50.451 It's literally, and this has been, I'm all about to keep it simple. 00:34:50.871 --> 00:34:55.451 And this, this butter, when she started doing it has helped me keep it as simple as possible. 00:34:55.871 --> 00:34:59.331 And so it's just, it's literally a one-time deal. and I just go back in and 00:34:59.331 --> 00:35:03.151 if it's got fucked up from taking my jacket off, my shirt off or whatever, 00:35:03.311 --> 00:35:04.271 just fucking brush it out. 00:35:04.431 --> 00:35:06.991 It stays right where it is. It's really simple. 00:35:08.011 --> 00:35:10.411 And that's what I need. I need simple. If it's too complicated, 00:35:10.571 --> 00:35:12.591 I would have shaved this shit off years ago. 00:35:13.731 --> 00:35:17.471 I think that's one thing that people see is they see the butters, 00:35:17.571 --> 00:35:19.991 the balms, the oils, the waxes, this and that. 00:35:21.411 --> 00:35:24.931 It's too much. They get confused. Yeah, I think they get overwhelmed a little 00:35:24.931 --> 00:35:27.611 bit. But it's really what you like and what works for you. 00:35:28.151 --> 00:35:34.611 Yeah, I've tried everything from just oil to just balm to just butter to a combination of them. 00:35:36.097 --> 00:35:40.117 For me, it's, depending on the day, it's either going to be a combo of oil and 00:35:40.117 --> 00:35:43.297 butter or just butter or just oil, depending on the day. 00:35:44.297 --> 00:35:47.977 If I'm not like on the weekends, I'll just put oil in it because I really, 00:35:48.117 --> 00:35:49.957 I'm not going out. I'm not really doing anything. 00:35:50.217 --> 00:35:53.457 Just, you know, sitting around with the guys, you know, I run every Sunday, 00:35:53.557 --> 00:35:56.797 I'm part of a cigar club called the Heathens Tobacco Club. 00:35:57.137 --> 00:36:01.457 So I run, they call me the Rev. So I run church every Sunday at 1130 and we 00:36:01.457 --> 00:36:04.257 just get out and make fun of each other and smoke cigars. 00:36:04.937 --> 00:36:08.557 And so I bet that's all it is. So I'll just throw oil in there and just brush 00:36:08.557 --> 00:36:10.137 it out and it's done for the day. 00:36:10.577 --> 00:36:13.997 But, you know, if it's going to be a full day, I'm going to the gym and I got 00:36:13.997 --> 00:36:17.617 lounges later on in the afternoon, whatever it is, I'll throw the butter in 00:36:17.617 --> 00:36:20.397 just to keep it in one particular shape. 00:36:20.757 --> 00:36:23.717 Well, my hair, I have to put three different things in it to not have it be 00:36:23.717 --> 00:36:25.557 like out to here. So, yeah. 00:36:28.040 --> 00:36:31.100 Yep. Everybody's beard, yeah. Everyone's beard is so different. 00:36:31.180 --> 00:36:33.440 And I tell everybody, you know, when you're starting off in it, 00:36:33.600 --> 00:36:38.440 the most important thing is everybody quits on a beard because of the itch. 00:36:38.600 --> 00:36:41.420 And I'm like, you really need to just a couple drops of oil, 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.560 rub it in into the skin, get it into the skin. 00:36:43.780 --> 00:36:47.000 It's going to stop that itch and it'll get you through that awkward stage. 00:36:47.160 --> 00:36:49.660 It's no different than growing out your hair. It's always going to look awkward 00:36:49.660 --> 00:36:51.700 at some point. You just got to fucking muscle through it. 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.300 And and as it grows out and the 00:36:55.300 --> 00:36:58.020 longer it gets then if you want to sculpt it a little bit more you start using 00:36:58.020 --> 00:37:00.740 the butters but you can literally just start using oil and just continue with 00:37:00.740 --> 00:37:03.500 oil if that's what you like but i like i like having 00:37:03.500 --> 00:37:06.520 the idea that i can change the it's like i don't even wear cologne 00:37:06.520 --> 00:37:09.380 i haven't i couldn't tell you the last time i put cologne on because i 00:37:09.380 --> 00:37:12.540 don't need to because this stuff smells so good yeah and she 00:37:12.540 --> 00:37:15.220 would tell as soon as i walked by her in the morning she'll be sitting on the couch with 00:37:15.220 --> 00:37:18.020 dogs i'll walk by her and she'll tell me she could tell exactly which 00:37:18.020 --> 00:37:21.500 one I put in one of our customers wouldn't could 00:37:21.500 --> 00:37:25.020 never grow out his beard because of that itch and 00:37:25.020 --> 00:37:28.000 his beard now it's it 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.680 looks so good and full and he's 00:37:31.680 --> 00:37:34.740 like you know just loves products because 00:37:34.740 --> 00:37:37.600 that's why he's allowed it to grow and it always says 00:37:37.600 --> 00:37:41.420 that he that super super like curly and 00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:45.020 now using the wash and the conditioner and he's 00:37:45.020 --> 00:37:47.980 you know he was just going to make an appointment to go get it really trimmed up 00:37:47.980 --> 00:37:50.720 really nice because it's gotten so long and he's 00:37:50.720 --> 00:37:53.700 so happy because he never would let it grow before because of 00:37:53.700 --> 00:37:56.340 the itch and just everything drove him crazy and he 00:37:56.340 --> 00:38:00.080 loves it like it feels healthy and you know so that's 00:38:00.080 --> 00:38:04.720 a great thing makes me happy to hear that and what i noticed so you know when 00:38:04.720 --> 00:38:07.620 i was just fucking letting it grow and i wasn't putting anything in it i didn't 00:38:07.620 --> 00:38:11.440 really care because i didn't know it better you lose a lot of hair like the 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:16.820 like you'll find beard hair everywhere and when i started using like an actual routine with it, 00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:20.440 using butters and oils and washing it correctly, I lose a lot less hair. 00:38:20.560 --> 00:38:21.620 So I know it's a lot healthier. 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:26.120 And I don't get the, again, we're grown ass men talking about this, 00:38:26.200 --> 00:38:30.540 but I don't get the split ends at the end of my beer. So I don't, I haven't had this cut. 00:38:31.587 --> 00:38:37.167 It's got to be coming up on a year. Jared's wedding last year. Oh, so it's over a year. 00:38:38.267 --> 00:38:43.207 It's been over a year since I've even had it. I'll trim up the sides and line it up. 00:38:43.387 --> 00:38:48.387 But this, I don't even touch it because I don't have split ends. 00:38:48.507 --> 00:38:49.667 It's healthy and I just let it go. 00:38:50.867 --> 00:38:54.927 My goal is to get the type I can tuck into my belt kind of thing. 00:38:55.067 --> 00:38:59.707 So I'm just letting the fucker grow. The only hair we find now are Husky's long 00:38:59.707 --> 00:39:04.947 tail hairs everywhere that look like you're, they look like you're this, 00:39:05.067 --> 00:39:07.847 but they're from Loki stuck everywhere. 00:39:08.367 --> 00:39:10.467 Yeah. The routine, but the routine itself is very simple. 00:39:11.087 --> 00:39:12.467 Yeah. And everybody does it 00:39:12.467 --> 00:39:16.687 different because like Mike uses oil and butter on his at the same time. 00:39:16.947 --> 00:39:19.307 Yeah. So it's, yeah, just whatever feels. 00:39:20.087 --> 00:39:22.687 Yeah. I don't think there's a rhyme or reason to it or just. 00:39:23.927 --> 00:39:27.407 As long as you're using something as long as you're using something I don't 00:39:27.407 --> 00:39:28.227 think there's a wrong way, 00:39:29.048 --> 00:39:32.068 And I had, we, at the event, I brought some beer products with me yesterday 00:39:32.068 --> 00:39:36.008 and, you know, it's, it's, it's one of the big things. 00:39:36.328 --> 00:39:39.728 Majority of us are bearded anyways, when it comes to, especially the cigar community, 00:39:39.828 --> 00:39:40.848 the whiskey community and all that. 00:39:41.048 --> 00:39:44.928 It's just kind of like majority of guys that I hang out with are all bearded. 00:39:45.328 --> 00:39:48.308 And, you know, I had some moms coming through going, man, my son's got a beard. 00:39:48.308 --> 00:39:50.548 And I'm like, all right, well, does it put anything in it? She's like, 00:39:50.608 --> 00:39:52.508 no, he usually shaves it off because it gets itchy. 00:39:52.708 --> 00:39:55.268 And I'm like, well, you might want to look at oils. And she's like, well, what would I take? 00:39:55.888 --> 00:39:57.928 And I said, all right, does he have a girlfriend? 00:39:58.588 --> 00:40:02.608 She's like, yeah. I said, smell a siren's call. And so she'll smell that. 00:40:02.708 --> 00:40:04.968 And she'll be like, oh, that's the one. I say, that's the one. 00:40:05.508 --> 00:40:08.068 And the guys will come over and they'll start going, oh, I love this. 00:40:08.168 --> 00:40:10.988 I'm like this. Where's your wife? She's right over there. Go get her. 00:40:11.188 --> 00:40:13.428 Because she's the one that's got to smell it. So let her pick it. 00:40:13.888 --> 00:40:17.028 We have no say in the matter. So if she's going to hate it, you're going to 00:40:17.028 --> 00:40:20.328 be pissed. And you're going to say, oh, this shit doesn't work. Aha. 00:40:20.828 --> 00:40:24.328 Because your wife didn't pick it up. She hates the smell. Get the one that she likes. 00:40:24.628 --> 00:40:27.868 It's only going to benefit you. yeah it's crazy 00:40:27.868 --> 00:40:30.668 when you think about you know you go 00:40:30.668 --> 00:40:33.868 to one of the big stores and it's so 00:40:33.868 --> 00:40:36.788 funny because how people like their people's their shopping 00:40:36.788 --> 00:40:41.788 habits right so we know we have an amazing product it's all natural but yet 00:40:41.788 --> 00:40:46.048 the way people shop and how they'll because it's convenient so instead of just 00:40:46.048 --> 00:40:49.908 going online or finding out you know if we're at a you know in an actual store 00:40:49.908 --> 00:40:55.208 a small little shop you know they'll just pick it up and not really think about, 00:40:55.728 --> 00:40:58.428 that's the thing like people don't realize when you're using a really good 00:40:58.428 --> 00:41:01.228 product the difference that it will make in your beard and they're 00:41:01.228 --> 00:41:03.968 buying out of convenience of just you know 00:41:03.968 --> 00:41:09.108 not smelling it not using it or being like thinking something to them that that's 00:41:09.108 --> 00:41:14.328 high quality you know what i mean by a by a brand name that something's high 00:41:14.328 --> 00:41:19.228 quality because of the name and the marketing that they can do you know but 00:41:19.228 --> 00:41:22.368 that's our goal we need to we need the marketing out there to, 00:41:23.068 --> 00:41:26.908 you know we know the kind of products we have and it's like get it out there and. 00:41:27.896 --> 00:41:33.456 Yeah, hopefully. Like I always stress- To order online and be able to, you know. 00:41:33.576 --> 00:41:36.136 I don't buy, I never go shopping for this stuff. 00:41:36.276 --> 00:41:39.156 So I have no idea of cost and whatnot. And she'll put the cost down. 00:41:39.376 --> 00:41:41.816 I'm like, God damn, that's fucking expensive in my head. 00:41:42.116 --> 00:41:44.656 And I'm like, I can't imagine paying that, but I'm a cheap fuck, 00:41:44.716 --> 00:41:45.596 so I'm not going to pay it. 00:41:45.976 --> 00:41:48.476 But then I start looking at other websites and I'm like, holy fuck, 00:41:48.576 --> 00:41:52.176 we're still cheaper than these guys. I'm like, okay, so maybe it's all right. 00:41:52.376 --> 00:41:56.296 And, you know, sometimes you get the, and shipping is shipping. 00:41:56.296 --> 00:41:59.576 There's nothing you can do with shipping we try 00:41:59.576 --> 00:42:02.596 to do the best we can with it we got the cheapest shipping we possibly can 00:42:02.596 --> 00:42:06.136 get for it and if you buy eight dollar butter you're 00:42:06.136 --> 00:42:09.016 gonna get eight dollar butter yeah yeah yeah yeah 00:42:09.016 --> 00:42:12.556 even the larger companies you know 00:42:12.556 --> 00:42:15.456 of course that they can do things cheaper but they're still 00:42:15.456 --> 00:42:18.116 at the same price point we are right but you 00:42:18.116 --> 00:42:20.896 know the quality of what they're using is not the quality of what 00:42:20.896 --> 00:42:23.736 i'm putting that i'm purchasing and putting 00:42:23.736 --> 00:42:26.716 into into our products yeah their 00:42:26.716 --> 00:42:29.736 about their profit margins are way different than ours because of 00:42:29.736 --> 00:42:32.576 you know when we're pricing stuff. 00:42:32.576 --> 00:42:35.296 Out it's it's it's based on it's based on 00:42:35.296 --> 00:42:38.676 price we're not counting her time and it's there's 00:42:38.676 --> 00:42:42.036 so much more involved now right now we're not because we're too 00:42:42.036 --> 00:42:44.676 new we've had we we do 00:42:44.676 --> 00:42:47.536 big brands and stuff and some of them are good some of them are bad 00:42:47.536 --> 00:42:50.196 and that we just know that with the 00:42:50.196 --> 00:42:53.056 big brands there's more question on the quality too 00:42:53.056 --> 00:42:56.116 they can put on their label what we think 00:42:56.116 --> 00:42:59.336 they're putting in but there's big brands 00:42:59.336 --> 00:43:02.236 have ways around you know everything right oh 00:43:02.236 --> 00:43:04.956 they do lying about ingredients and things like 00:43:04.956 --> 00:43:07.956 that you know like we know when we buy from you know 00:43:07.956 --> 00:43:11.776 companies like you guys it's it's straightforward you say what's on the label 00:43:11.776 --> 00:43:16.036 is what's in your shit and that's what we're buying that's what i'd rather pay 00:43:16.036 --> 00:43:21.716 five bucks more to get what's in my label is what is all in my house yeah so 00:43:21.716 --> 00:43:25.976 if we're talking about four or five bucks more for, you know, an oil or butter. 00:43:27.950 --> 00:43:32.630 I'm totally fine with that because it's going on my face and into my skin. 00:43:33.130 --> 00:43:36.430 Like, I mean, this is not something I want to compromise. You know, 00:43:36.530 --> 00:43:42.710 I don't want to be frugal when it comes to something that's literally being absorbed into my face. 00:43:43.010 --> 00:43:46.550 So we want to, we want to, we want to find brands that you trust. 00:43:46.750 --> 00:43:48.410 And that's, you know, you guys. 00:43:48.890 --> 00:43:51.530 And we talk about this too, Cigar World wise. 00:43:52.290 --> 00:43:56.990 We'll talk about, you know, you got these big brands that come out and they'll 00:43:56.990 --> 00:44:01.590 drop their boutique line and you got these smaller companies that are dropping 00:44:01.590 --> 00:44:04.830 stuff and everyone's got, every one of their lines has to be fantastic. 00:44:05.130 --> 00:44:10.470 They don't have the money behind them or the chance to take on putting out a 00:44:10.470 --> 00:44:14.570 cigar that's mediocre or shitty where these bigger companies can put out a shitty 00:44:14.570 --> 00:44:16.290 cigar and it's a shitty cigar. 00:44:16.430 --> 00:44:18.410 Somebody's going to like it and they can They just get rid of it, 00:44:18.530 --> 00:44:21.510 but they have the name behind it where the, where the smaller companies, 00:44:21.610 --> 00:44:25.610 they got to put out, every cigar has got to be fantastic because if you get 00:44:25.610 --> 00:44:28.650 one bad line, that's going to, it's going to wreck the rest of the line. 00:44:28.850 --> 00:44:30.710 And it's very hard to get those people back. 00:44:31.795 --> 00:44:37.595 Well, that's all our products, our stuff. If something seems off with the product, 00:44:37.635 --> 00:44:39.815 and I'm using all natural products, right? 00:44:39.915 --> 00:44:42.875 So sometimes things can be a little bit different. 00:44:43.135 --> 00:44:46.975 So the mango butter, I could not get from my normal distributor. 00:44:46.975 --> 00:44:48.755 I had to get it from somebody else. 00:44:50.015 --> 00:44:54.635 And for whatever reason, and it's the one that I'm currently using now, 00:44:54.835 --> 00:45:00.955 and for whatever reason, when I would whip it, it would make like chunks. 00:45:00.955 --> 00:45:03.615 It was like chunks would be in the butter. Crystallize. 00:45:03.815 --> 00:45:08.275 They would crystallize in the butter, which is completely fine. 00:45:08.275 --> 00:45:12.515 It's normal, but it was not, it wasn't smooth. 00:45:12.735 --> 00:45:18.075 Like, like I was, I made them, you know, with the, with the other, the other one. 00:45:18.315 --> 00:45:22.675 So I like ran up on it, blah, blah, blah, figured out exactly why. 00:45:22.855 --> 00:45:27.415 And with that specific, for whatever reason, I have to freeze it. 00:45:27.555 --> 00:45:30.455 It has to, it was not cooling quick enough. 00:45:30.955 --> 00:45:34.235 To not crystallize. But I had to go through that whole process. 00:45:34.495 --> 00:45:40.015 It was driving me crazy. Even though I know it doesn't change anything about how the product works. 00:45:40.195 --> 00:45:43.215 It's just you can feel it. But I wouldn't let that go. 00:45:43.615 --> 00:45:47.615 I wouldn't let it go. I ended up with a big tub of cheeky chops and I was thrilled 00:45:47.615 --> 00:45:49.635 to. Yeah, because I was like, I just can't. 00:45:49.775 --> 00:45:56.415 I can't listen while I do candles. I will obsess on that that wick is straight. The wick is centered. 00:45:57.095 --> 00:46:01.015 And it drives me crazy to go to the stores and see them. and they're not centered 00:46:01.015 --> 00:46:04.395 because I can't even take it. So that is my thing. 00:46:05.635 --> 00:46:10.755 My fault is being a perfectionist when it comes to things that I'm putting out that I'm doing. 00:46:10.915 --> 00:46:18.115 But your fault is our win because buying product is we know that you're taking. 00:46:19.435 --> 00:46:23.155 Consideration and that you know kind of ocd mentality 00:46:23.155 --> 00:46:26.195 yes your product is going to be fucking perfect 00:46:26.195 --> 00:46:30.035 and that's what we'll thank and i'm i'm 00:46:30.035 --> 00:46:33.635 obviously fine thanks for that i mean i i want 00:46:33.635 --> 00:46:36.415 to pay that you know time man is 00:46:36.415 --> 00:46:40.075 kind of an issue because of that if i 00:46:40.075 --> 00:46:43.015 it is it is a 100 guarantee if we 00:46:43.015 --> 00:46:46.075 have an event on saturday she's up 00:46:46.075 --> 00:46:48.895 till one o'clock in the morning on friday trying to finish off everything 00:46:48.895 --> 00:46:51.775 that she's had three weeks to do she's a crammer so 00:46:51.775 --> 00:46:54.815 she'll cram it all into the last night that's my ad that's my add of 00:46:54.815 --> 00:46:57.555 me without fail even this so i i was like bro 00:46:57.555 --> 00:47:01.095 i just need a few products to bring with me two or three of each of each line 00:47:01.095 --> 00:47:05.175 to bring with me for tomorrow for for the event yesterday i went to bed i was 00:47:05.175 --> 00:47:09.915 exhausted i had a long day to go so i knew i needed to get to bed early she's 00:47:09.915 --> 00:47:11.975 just getting to bed to like one o'clock in the morning because oh i forgot to 00:47:11.975 --> 00:47:14.755 do this i forgot to do that and i still had to get up and I still had to package 00:47:14.755 --> 00:47:16.415 a couple of cutters. Yep. 00:47:17.215 --> 00:47:19.935 So, but I'm used to it. So, it is what it is. 00:47:20.495 --> 00:47:24.555 When we went last year. Oh, my God. Last year to Veterans Day. 00:47:24.955 --> 00:47:29.435 But something else, something had happened before then. I literally brought 00:47:29.435 --> 00:47:32.335 all of the stuff to pack it. 00:47:32.415 --> 00:47:37.495 Well, I had to make oils and car diffusers that I brought with me and did them in the hotel room. 00:47:39.215 --> 00:47:41.995 Because we were out of time. And I was like, just pack it up. 00:47:41.995 --> 00:47:47.095 The whole room that's all you could do to smell in the room oh my god don't 00:47:47.095 --> 00:47:52.435 buy them oh because we had an actual because we had our booth we had a we were 00:47:52.435 --> 00:47:55.135 a vendor so people would buy from could buy from us yeah. 00:47:57.298 --> 00:48:00.518 So I got a few more things before we sign off here. 00:48:01.058 --> 00:48:05.518 You guys have anything new other than the tattoo balm and maybe the bearded 00:48:05.518 --> 00:48:07.598 Swifty coming out? So anytime. 00:48:08.118 --> 00:48:11.758 Well, we had talked about, we had talked about doing a fall scent, 00:48:11.778 --> 00:48:14.238 but we had some family issues that happened. 00:48:14.698 --> 00:48:16.998 Then time is going to go back to Connecticut again. So we're going to have to 00:48:16.998 --> 00:48:18.438 bypass this year's fall scent. 00:48:18.878 --> 00:48:23.398 So she, while she's home back there, she's going to be thinking about working 00:48:23.398 --> 00:48:24.878 on the, on the Christmas scent. 00:48:25.398 --> 00:48:28.138 And uh so we'll have it we'll have a specific scent for christmas this 00:48:28.138 --> 00:48:30.778 year and then the then my scent will come out at 00:48:30.778 --> 00:48:34.478 some point it's just a matter of of me it's 00:48:34.478 --> 00:48:38.418 it's pretty much on me it's my fault for just not nailing it down but i also 00:48:38.418 --> 00:48:42.898 don't want us to be where it's too i don't want to have too many lines like 00:48:42.898 --> 00:48:45.918 i always preach to the guys when they're coming out in a new with a new cigar 00:48:45.918 --> 00:48:48.438 company they're like what should we do and i'm like fucking come out with two 00:48:48.438 --> 00:48:51.978 cigars bro one or two cigars don't come out with five fucking lines it's just 00:48:51.978 --> 00:48:53.398 too much it's too much to handle, 00:48:53.858 --> 00:48:56.778 and you know especially some of the the common stuff 00:48:56.778 --> 00:48:59.578 everybody wants to do a connecticut and i'm like bro if i put 00:48:59.578 --> 00:49:02.518 your connecticut with five other connecticut why does your stand out 00:49:02.518 --> 00:49:06.198 unless you have a phenomenal connecticut it's not going to stick out i'm going 00:49:06.198 --> 00:49:10.198 to have a hard time selling so that's so in that same breath i got to think 00:49:10.198 --> 00:49:13.758 about that on our end we don't want to constantly i think for right now the 00:49:13.758 --> 00:49:19.258 tattoo bomb will be the last item yeah the full-time item that'll come out for 00:49:19.258 --> 00:49:21.498 the year but then the next year was from Sydney. 00:49:21.758 --> 00:49:24.998 Well, the scents are different though. The scents but as far as like items go 00:49:24.998 --> 00:49:30.258 because we do so yeah we have the bomb we have the the tattoo we'll have the 00:49:30.258 --> 00:49:31.898 tattoo bomb the butter the oil. 00:49:33.137 --> 00:49:38.417 The wash, the conditioner. I do car diffusers, skull car diffusers that everybody loves them. 00:49:38.637 --> 00:49:42.857 I sell a ton of car diffusers that you can put any of those scents into them. 00:49:43.277 --> 00:49:49.177 And then I sell candles. I do them per, you know, to order. 00:49:49.517 --> 00:49:53.577 Those are on the website also. And the candles are really, really good too. 00:49:53.577 --> 00:49:55.797 Yeah, it's only three cents in the candles. 00:49:56.077 --> 00:49:59.657 But I think once we get into... And t-shirts. 00:49:59.877 --> 00:50:02.877 We're going to add our t-shirts onto the website too. 00:50:02.877 --> 00:50:05.917 Once we get to the mine will be the last in the core line 00:50:05.917 --> 00:50:08.957 and then after that everything else is going to be limited release 00:50:08.957 --> 00:50:11.697 stuff because i think i think it's a lot of fun and i think 00:50:11.697 --> 00:50:14.337 i think building the hype up for the for the for that when it 00:50:14.337 --> 00:50:18.157 comes back again is a lot of fun like the guys are just they can't wait for 00:50:18.157 --> 00:50:21.277 the for the irish goodbye to come back out and it's just like that kind of stuff 00:50:21.277 --> 00:50:25.377 so it's like it's fun and like keeping daddy-o was was a happy accident because 00:50:25.377 --> 00:50:28.557 we thought it was just gonna be father's day and if father's day went and she 00:50:28.557 --> 00:50:30.617 was still making them and we're still getting questions. I'm like, 00:50:30.697 --> 00:50:31.737 fuck it, let's keep it for the summer. 00:50:32.117 --> 00:50:35.657 And then everybody just digs that nostalgic feel of it. 00:50:35.837 --> 00:50:41.797 It smells like Hawaiian shit. I'll send you guys samples of the daddy up. What are your favorite? 00:50:42.097 --> 00:50:45.257 Bougie is the other one I don't have. Well, no, no, no. I can send samples of both. 00:50:45.917 --> 00:50:49.637 Do you guys want one oil, one butter, each of them? 00:50:50.337 --> 00:50:53.597 The three of you guys? You guys both like the butter and the oil? 00:50:53.937 --> 00:50:59.557 Yeah. Adam and Paul, I don't know how they, I do butter and balm or butter and oil. 00:50:59.817 --> 00:51:03.017 I don't know about the other guys. Yeah, I'm more oil. I don't, 00:51:03.137 --> 00:51:07.977 I mean, I use butter every once in a while, but I'm a more straightforward oil 00:51:07.977 --> 00:51:09.817 guy. Okay. So I'll send you oils. 00:51:11.277 --> 00:51:15.877 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I like, I like balms. I like, or butters. 00:51:15.877 --> 00:51:18.377 I like oils. Yeah. I'll get those out to you guys. 00:51:19.462 --> 00:51:23.062 Their addresses thank you very much we have we have jerry's where you sent up 00:51:23.062 --> 00:51:28.622 a phone yeah but if you want to just text john your addresses yeah and then 00:51:28.622 --> 00:51:32.302 i'll get those out to you guys this way you can smell them i'll send you a bougie 00:51:32.302 --> 00:51:35.562 and a daddy yeah thank you yeah thank you. 00:51:36.302 --> 00:51:41.482 And as larry said the the ever-present mustache wax is that's that's not going 00:51:41.482 --> 00:51:44.642 to change that's going to that's going to be that's i forgot about the mustache 00:51:44.642 --> 00:51:48.582 because that's so new i forgot about And I actually had a chance to get into 00:51:48.582 --> 00:51:50.702 the hands of actual barbers yesterday. 00:51:51.222 --> 00:51:55.202 And so they've got my number and I'm like, I need you guys to use this. 00:51:55.302 --> 00:51:58.722 I've got my friends who have used it and love it, but I want to see it also 00:51:58.722 --> 00:52:02.702 on another level where a barber is actually using it for his clients. 00:52:02.702 --> 00:52:06.502 And that's, I think that's, I think that's the next piece for us is trying to 00:52:06.502 --> 00:52:09.262 get into some barbershops and helping them get in. 00:52:09.362 --> 00:52:13.802 Like I had a, I had a, I was wearing my Stay Bearded Stace Brutal t-shirt and 00:52:13.802 --> 00:52:16.342 a girl came up to me and she's like, I need to know your story. 00:52:16.622 --> 00:52:21.202 And we started talking and she actually owns a, a barbershop here in town. 00:52:21.382 --> 00:52:25.022 And she's like, I'd love to try it. She goes, I got these guys that come in all the time. 00:52:25.182 --> 00:52:29.442 And, you know, she goes, I just got my master barber's license and I'm trimming beards and whatnot. 00:52:29.462 --> 00:52:32.682 I'm always looking for good products and I love to support local. so i 00:52:32.682 --> 00:52:35.422 brought her samples and as soon as she 00:52:35.422 --> 00:52:38.102 put it on these guys they were going to the market because she was 00:52:38.102 --> 00:52:40.942 home she was home at the time and uh so they were running to 00:52:40.942 --> 00:52:43.802 the market that we had them to buy it so they had it immediately she said this 00:52:43.802 --> 00:52:46.602 one guy would come in and it was literally fucking dripping off his beard she's 00:52:46.602 --> 00:52:50.302 like it's just gross so she called him up and said get in here i got something 00:52:50.302 --> 00:52:54.082 you got to try and he came in with a clean beard she put it on and it was the 00:52:54.082 --> 00:52:57.442 oil's not there and he's like holy shit he went right to the market and bought 00:52:57.442 --> 00:53:00.142 it And so we're, we're hoping that her, 00:53:00.162 --> 00:53:02.542 her shop is going to be our first one to actually get in as, 00:53:02.602 --> 00:53:04.542 as, you know, sell wholesale and get it there. 00:53:04.862 --> 00:53:09.962 I've actually got a lounge Scenic Cigars down in Chattanooga that wholesales from us. 00:53:10.042 --> 00:53:13.142 And he has the whole line sitting there on his shell on his shelves. 00:53:13.362 --> 00:53:18.442 We, we did an event down there. I did a Cigar Clowns Allure and an HDA event. 00:53:19.363 --> 00:53:22.343 One afternoon and she brought the beard products with 00:53:22.343 --> 00:53:26.643 her and she sold out of everything that she had that day and and you know what 00:53:26.643 --> 00:53:31.123 it was the guys opening it and putting them on putting the scent on and everyone 00:53:31.123 --> 00:53:35.923 that we didn't know was all coming up they're like what is that that's not so 00:53:35.923 --> 00:53:38.943 great or the wives that were there with the husbands and they're like you need 00:53:38.943 --> 00:53:40.583 to go buy that that's amazing. 00:53:42.418 --> 00:53:45.538 It's fun to see that, you know, I did a market one time and I had this guy come 00:53:45.538 --> 00:53:47.818 out and he had a short beard, but that fucker was like this. 00:53:48.398 --> 00:53:51.018 And I'm like, dude, come over here. And I brought him over and I'm like, 00:53:51.078 --> 00:53:54.858 just try this. And he put the oil in and he put it in and it fucking stayed straight down. 00:53:55.238 --> 00:53:58.298 And he's like, oh my God. I'm like, that's what oil does. That's the purpose 00:53:58.298 --> 00:54:01.118 of it. Kind of keep it clean and make it nice. 00:54:01.878 --> 00:54:05.978 And, you know, so then about a half hour later, this girl comes over with her 00:54:05.978 --> 00:54:08.738 boyfriend and she's like, your beard's fucked up. You need to take a look at this. 00:54:08.958 --> 00:54:12.078 And I pointed to a guy, to the guy who I saw him a couple of booths down. 00:54:12.078 --> 00:54:15.778 I said, that guy just put it in his beard. She's like, that's my father. It worked for him. 00:54:16.098 --> 00:54:18.998 Holy shit. Look at his beard. So she bought some for the boyfriend. You know what I mean? 00:54:19.038 --> 00:54:23.178 But it's, it's the idea of you got to give it a chance. You got to go completely 00:54:23.178 --> 00:54:25.938 with nothing in it is you're going to look fucked up. 00:54:26.238 --> 00:54:28.718 You're going to, it's just, it's everywhere. You're not going to get a team. 00:54:28.818 --> 00:54:29.998 It has to have something in it. 00:54:30.818 --> 00:54:36.818 Yeah. A hundred percent. I mean, I'm not, I don't have hair, 00:54:37.038 --> 00:54:43.658 but I would imagine if I just got out of the shower and dried my head of long hair, 00:54:43.938 --> 00:54:47.498 it would just look fucked up. You got to do something like this. 00:54:49.778 --> 00:54:55.898 Mine will be this big. When it's humid down here, she'd look at my hair and 00:54:55.898 --> 00:54:57.838 be like, oh my god, it's beautiful. She's in the house. 00:54:57.978 --> 00:55:00.618 I'm like, your hair looks great. We'll walk outside and just go poof. 00:55:00.798 --> 00:55:04.438 I used to straighten my hair until we moved here. Then it's just a waste of time. 00:55:05.458 --> 00:55:08.778 I feel it getting bigger and bigger and bigger when I get outside. 00:55:08.778 --> 00:55:14.038 And I have found that down here with the humidity, I don't have that crazy suck 00:55:14.038 --> 00:55:16.178 up curliness with, with, with the humidity. 00:55:16.278 --> 00:55:19.258 It'll still hold it through. I mean, it's going to happen. There's nothing you can do. 00:55:19.538 --> 00:55:22.618 You got to put like a shit ton in there to try and get it to beat the humidity. 00:55:22.798 --> 00:55:25.198 But for the most part, it really doesn't just shrink up and. 00:55:27.115 --> 00:55:30.075 But for me, I think the biggest, the most important thing is just having it 00:55:30.075 --> 00:55:34.315 being healthy as opposed to how it looks. It's the healthiness of the beard. 00:55:34.735 --> 00:55:38.235 I don't give a fuck how hot it is. I've mowed the lawn at 103 degrees. 00:55:38.355 --> 00:55:40.715 Yep. And my beard's still, it's not itchy. 00:55:40.915 --> 00:55:44.215 It doesn't make my face hot or any of that. I don't get that itch underneath 00:55:44.215 --> 00:55:47.715 it or the rashes or any of that. It's probably the healthiest my skin's been in forever. 00:55:49.155 --> 00:55:52.795 Yeah, 100%. I hear a lot of people say that all the time. 00:55:52.915 --> 00:55:56.195 It's like, oh, you know, the beard grows. 00:55:56.195 --> 00:55:58.895 It's you know germs in your 00:55:58.895 --> 00:56:02.295 beard and your skin's probably a no that's probably 00:56:02.295 --> 00:56:06.115 the most healthy thing on my face is absolutely because 00:56:06.115 --> 00:56:09.335 i take care of it the most then my 00:56:09.335 --> 00:56:12.255 the skin under my beard is probably the most healthy skin 00:56:12.255 --> 00:56:15.495 on my fucking body and this hair is 00:56:15.495 --> 00:56:18.795 the cleanest hair you know like i mean this is 00:56:18.795 --> 00:56:21.795 what if you take care of it right respect your 00:56:21.795 --> 00:56:25.175 beard it looks good it feels good you 00:56:25.175 --> 00:56:28.235 know we have somebody else who had psoriasis too 00:56:28.235 --> 00:56:30.975 under their beard and that helped the psoriasis but i 00:56:30.975 --> 00:56:33.955 don't remember who that was our neighbor oh was our neighbor yeah oh 00:56:33.955 --> 00:56:36.795 yeah and it's helped him so that's great too 00:56:36.795 --> 00:56:41.755 yeah but yeah it's been it's it's been a biggest problem the biggest problem 00:56:41.755 --> 00:56:45.735 with people that try to grow beards like you said before it's the itch because 00:56:45.735 --> 00:56:49.635 when it goes to about a quarter of inch it starts to curl under and it tickles 00:56:49.635 --> 00:56:54.575 and it itches and And then also it's pulling the oils out of your face, 00:56:54.635 --> 00:56:56.215 which makes your skin get dry. 00:56:56.415 --> 00:57:00.155 And if you don't, if you're just using regular shampoo and regular bullshit, 00:57:00.635 --> 00:57:04.195 which most people do, they think, oh, I can't do it. I use my head. 00:57:04.335 --> 00:57:07.775 I can use my face, which is 100% not accurate. 00:57:08.655 --> 00:57:13.255 Yeah. You're going to be fighting a losing battle. So just take care of your, 00:57:13.415 --> 00:57:15.435 take care of your beard, take care of your face. 00:57:15.855 --> 00:57:19.115 It's no different if you, it's no different when you have a big fucking head of hair. 00:57:19.275 --> 00:57:21.915 You got to take care of it. You gotta take care of it. You gotta use the right 00:57:21.915 --> 00:57:24.175 shit and take care of it properly. 00:57:24.395 --> 00:57:26.695 I mean, you can't neglect it and, you know... 00:57:29.510 --> 00:57:35.010 Yeah, so just some random questions. What's your go-to cigar? 00:57:35.530 --> 00:57:38.890 Like if you could pick anyone to smoke for the rest of your life. 00:57:40.090 --> 00:57:46.610 Like Desert Island. Desert Island cigar. Desert Island. I used to say it was a Padron 64. Shit. 00:57:48.190 --> 00:57:51.690 That is probably one of the hardest questions. That's the hardest question in the world to ask. 00:57:51.890 --> 00:57:55.930 Because I could pick something from every line, from everybody that I have. 00:57:55.930 --> 00:57:58.630 That you know king of clowns i would smoke a king 00:57:58.630 --> 00:58:01.810 of clowns every day forever hda i 00:58:01.810 --> 00:58:05.150 could smoke the fucking veil mutiny every day lore 00:58:05.150 --> 00:58:10.790 fat tony every day family by loyalty give me a fucking a hottie all day long 00:58:10.790 --> 00:58:15.410 you know i mean so it's it's shit i probably better off sticking to the padrona 00:58:15.410 --> 00:58:21.450 64 because there's just so many and it's just i just love smoking cigars so 00:58:21.450 --> 00:58:24.070 it's it's i I really would. I don't think it would matter. 00:58:24.190 --> 00:58:26.890 Whatever washed up on shore, I would smoke the shit out of it. 00:58:27.110 --> 00:58:29.550 Probably smokes coconut husks if I couldn't get those. 00:58:31.750 --> 00:58:36.170 Favorite whiskey. Favorite whiskey. If I'm smoking a Habano. 00:58:36.370 --> 00:58:38.670 Well, it is the right and wrong answer. Like that? 00:58:40.195 --> 00:58:44.755 I said there is a right and wrong answer. Well, I am horrific and horrific at 00:58:44.755 --> 00:58:47.415 pairing. So it is not my forte. 00:58:47.875 --> 00:58:50.775 I can put you into any cigar you want. You can, you can ask me, 00:58:50.935 --> 00:58:53.055 all I got to do is ask you a few questions. I'll put you into something. 00:58:53.295 --> 00:58:57.655 When it comes to trying to pair, I'm terrible at it, but I'm a one trick pony. 00:58:57.815 --> 00:59:00.315 So if I'm, if I'm smoking a Habano, I'm going to grab a rye. 00:59:00.535 --> 00:59:04.555 I love bullet rye is one of my favorites. Cause it's just, it just fucking hits 00:59:04.555 --> 00:59:06.295 every time. It's a $30 bottle. 00:59:06.575 --> 00:59:09.415 But for me without question, it's Elijah, Elijah Craig. 00:59:10.195 --> 00:59:13.395 And it doesn't matter what, I mean, I've had the Elijah 18, I've had the Elijah, 00:59:13.415 --> 00:59:17.795 the old school twenties. I've had the small batch, just love Elijah Craig. 00:59:18.615 --> 00:59:21.975 And then what, what's your go-to cut for a cigar? 00:59:22.235 --> 00:59:27.875 So funny you say that it's, it's going to be a straight cut 90% of the time or a V cut. 00:59:28.055 --> 00:59:34.755 I will never punch a cigar again based on, based on a huge combination of a 00:59:34.755 --> 00:59:39.435 long talk with ish over the, over a bunch of podcasts and it made perfect sense. 00:59:39.435 --> 00:59:42.975 I literally sat there that night when he talked about what happens when you 00:59:42.975 --> 00:59:44.555 punch a cigar. I threw all my punches out. 00:59:45.135 --> 00:59:51.835 When you punch, so unless it's brand new and razor sharp, you are pushing the 00:59:51.835 --> 00:59:55.415 tobacco down, curling up on itself. 00:59:55.675 --> 00:59:59.015 So you're going to get more of that drip, that tar. 00:59:59.515 --> 01:00:02.375 And if you've ever tasted it, it is fucking disgusting. 01:00:02.895 --> 01:00:06.175 But I will always, I'll always straight cut it. 01:00:06.295 --> 01:00:10.535 But when we were home, I couldn't bring a cutter with me. So I sat there and 01:00:10.535 --> 01:00:11.795 either use my brother-in-law's knife. 01:00:12.155 --> 01:00:15.355 All you need to do is take the cap off and I will literally either just bite 01:00:15.355 --> 01:00:18.035 it off or just rip it or take the cap off with a fingernail. 01:00:19.115 --> 01:00:22.935 That's nice and simple, but I love, I do love a V cut. That's interesting. 01:00:23.135 --> 01:00:27.335 I always straight cut. I mean, always straight cut to be honest, but. 01:00:28.169 --> 01:00:32.089 I've never heard that about punch. Oh, I didn't either. I punched everything. 01:00:32.549 --> 01:00:37.349 I punched everything. And then one of my favorites, so this is one of the cutters 01:00:37.349 --> 01:00:40.089 that I have, and it's a spring loader. The thing is fantastic. 01:00:40.629 --> 01:00:42.849 Sharp as can be. I use this for everything. 01:00:44.529 --> 01:00:50.029 I've got 30 lighters and cutters everywhere, but I'm always going to stick to 01:00:50.029 --> 01:00:52.509 that straight or the majority of it's straight. 01:00:53.829 --> 01:00:57.089 So since you mentioned Rye, that put me in the mind of Rye. 01:00:57.749 --> 01:01:02.849 One of the only ones that I have down here with me. I don't know if you've ever had good times. 01:01:03.709 --> 01:01:06.269 I highly suggest you pick it up if you see it. 01:01:07.706 --> 01:01:11.126 Tater sticker here on the back. Oh, I can see it. I'm going to turn my light off on my back. 01:01:12.126 --> 01:01:15.906 Yeah, yeah. My favorite movie ever. That's her favorite movie. 01:01:15.926 --> 01:01:18.906 I love it. I saw it on Broadway. I love it. 01:01:21.166 --> 01:01:26.666 It's, so I'm a big, I mean, Christmas is kind of a, you know, 01:01:27.226 --> 01:01:31.986 sore subject for me, but I love, I do love the time of year and I love Christmas movies. 01:01:32.006 --> 01:01:39.206 I've got a leg lamp tattoo on my rib right here. But this is a maple rock Have 01:01:39.206 --> 01:01:40.126 you had Knob Creek maple? 01:01:40.526 --> 01:01:48.326 I have And you know So Paul is a big Jim Beam fan Knob Maple is different In 01:01:48.326 --> 01:01:50.426 that good times That's more of, 01:01:51.266 --> 01:02:00.366 In all the ways It's a liqueur That good times maple is a whiskey And it is massive This is, 01:02:02.166 --> 01:02:03.126 Where's the pen? 01:02:03.926 --> 01:02:08.486 I won't write that down Let's see here So you're not going to find this because 01:02:08.486 --> 01:02:12.066 it's a pick, obviously, but it's 113 proof. 01:02:12.526 --> 01:02:18.626 And it is, if you can imagine a spicy maple syrup, that's what this tastes like. 01:02:18.626 --> 01:02:19.846 I'm all in on it. You have your maple. 01:02:21.366 --> 01:02:26.526 It's phenomenal. So I tell you what, get me your address and I'll send you guys a couple samples. 01:02:26.786 --> 01:02:30.166 Do you like whiskey and she doesn't? No? No. 01:02:31.490 --> 01:02:37.550 I'll send you a sample. It's amazing. I grabbed a bottle of Sazerac when we 01:02:37.550 --> 01:02:39.170 were at PCA. I found it for like $23. 01:02:39.810 --> 01:02:43.370 And that is a killer rye at a great price. Oh, yeah. 01:02:44.670 --> 01:02:51.710 You can get that for like $20, $25. That's a standard. It's all day. That's all day. 01:02:52.950 --> 01:02:57.250 Rye whiskey is a lost art in this country. 01:02:57.630 --> 01:03:01.710 I don't want to call it a lost art because there's a lot of whiskey companies 01:03:01.710 --> 01:03:03.030 out there doing rye whiskey, right. 01:03:03.170 --> 01:03:06.830 But a lot of people overlook rye whiskey in this country. 01:03:06.930 --> 01:03:12.710 And it was, it was the whiskey before bourbon was the whiskey in this country. 01:03:13.250 --> 01:03:16.670 And I've got some, uh, I'll send you a sample of this as well. 01:03:16.770 --> 01:03:20.170 Some, I won't tell you where I got it while we're recording at least, 01:03:20.270 --> 01:03:23.730 but it's a honey bun rye and Paul and Jerry have both had it. 01:03:23.730 --> 01:03:27.070 And it it's i can verify that it 01:03:27.070 --> 01:03:30.970 was made with honey buns and rye 01:03:30.970 --> 01:03:37.870 and it's it it turned it it's it's pretty fantastic so yeah yeah i'll get you 01:03:37.870 --> 01:03:42.590 a sample of that as well but either tonight i'm sorry paul either tonight or 01:03:42.590 --> 01:03:46.430 first thing in the morning i'll get a little email thing going with all of us 01:03:46.430 --> 01:03:50.910 in there so you got my now you can do it through texas easier or you want to do i'm. 01:03:52.090 --> 01:03:54.790 That'll work i'll send a mass text out with the three 01:03:54.790 --> 01:03:57.630 of us or four of us and that way we can talk on 01:03:57.630 --> 01:04:01.030 there i mean i've done all of them i've angels envy 01:04:01.030 --> 01:04:03.830 i've got in there i've got some eagle rare and i've got the i've 01:04:03.830 --> 01:04:07.810 got blackened angels envy is great black and i enjoyed but i refuse to pay the 01:04:07.810 --> 01:04:11.850 price that they wanted for the black and rye the will it the will it ridiculously 01:04:11.850 --> 01:04:16.890 i'm not paying that i broke in on crown royal rye and it was a friend of mine 01:04:16.890 --> 01:04:19.550 bought it for me and i was It's like the first time I drank it, 01:04:19.550 --> 01:04:21.050 I was like, this is shit. I can't drink this. 01:04:21.210 --> 01:04:23.650 And then one day I drank it again like a couple years later and I was like, 01:04:23.770 --> 01:04:25.230 holy fuck, what am I missing? 01:04:25.630 --> 01:04:29.630 And I destroyed that bottle. Then I went to Bullet and then I'm like, okay, rye it is. 01:04:31.329 --> 01:04:34.729 Sometimes that's all you need is just to let a bottle sit open for a little 01:04:34.729 --> 01:04:39.229 while, get a little oxidation going on and it completely changes the profile. 01:04:39.629 --> 01:04:45.129 But I, you know, as far as will, it goes, it's here in Kentucky and the, 01:04:45.129 --> 01:04:50.289 the six year often just sits on the shelves around here. You can get it for 40 bucks a bottle. 01:04:50.569 --> 01:04:56.809 Maybe not so much right now because they're, they're president or I can't remember 01:04:56.809 --> 01:04:57.529 what his official title. 01:04:57.589 --> 01:05:03.209 He just died, but I have some, well, We can talk about this when we're not recording 01:05:03.209 --> 01:05:07.729 too, but I have some Will It Rye that you cannot get anywhere else in the world, 01:05:07.749 --> 01:05:09.869 and I can send you a sample of that. 01:05:10.629 --> 01:05:13.529 Literally, the only place that you can get it is right here in my house. 01:05:14.509 --> 01:05:22.029 Jerry's had some. Paul, I think I sent you some samples of it, and it is, man. 01:05:22.469 --> 01:05:27.089 But rye whiskey is not to be overlooked, and a lot of people do. 01:05:27.089 --> 01:05:30.269 And and a lot of times that works out in 01:05:30.269 --> 01:05:33.069 whiskey fans favor because we've got the ability to 01:05:33.069 --> 01:05:35.929 go and buy whatever the fuck we want to go buy and the 01:05:35.929 --> 01:05:39.709 world isn't isn't out there you know there's not there's not a huge secondary 01:05:39.709 --> 01:05:45.629 market for for rye whiskey there really isn't there are so many damn good rye 01:05:45.629 --> 01:05:49.829 whiskeys out there you know what happens is everybody talks about all these 01:05:49.829 --> 01:05:52.989 different bottles and everything to look for then i'll go into the liquor store 01:05:52.989 --> 01:05:55.469 and my add kicks in and I can't remember a fucking thing. 01:05:56.169 --> 01:05:59.689 And I'm like, I don't even, I have no idea. I have no, because it just completely 01:05:59.689 --> 01:06:02.029 escapes me. I completely forget about it. And I'll grab like, 01:06:02.329 --> 01:06:03.589 okay, I see some Buffalo Trace. 01:06:03.669 --> 01:06:06.589 I'll grab some Buffalo Trace. Just because that's the only thing I can remember. 01:06:07.941 --> 01:06:13.341 You know, I never considered that to be an ADD type thing until you just said that. 01:06:13.461 --> 01:06:19.881 I've never been diagnosed with ADD of any shape, form, or fashion, but I do the same shit. 01:06:20.081 --> 01:06:23.161 I'm like, this is what I'm going to go get. And then as soon as I walk through 01:06:23.161 --> 01:06:24.861 the door, it's all out the fucking window. 01:06:25.601 --> 01:06:29.081 And then I'm walking around looking at everything that's there and I can't remember 01:06:29.081 --> 01:06:30.061 what I can. Yeah, every time. 01:06:30.561 --> 01:06:34.941 Guys, I'm going to step off because I have to get some stuff done because I 01:06:34.941 --> 01:06:36.881 have to leave and go back to Connecticut. it. 01:06:37.061 --> 01:06:41.381 So thank you guys so much. John's going to stay, but thank you for having us 01:06:41.381 --> 01:06:44.381 on. I appreciate it. I'll get those samples out to you guys. Thank you. 01:06:44.901 --> 01:06:47.981 Thank you for joining us. And thank you for the, we really appreciate you. 01:06:48.101 --> 01:06:50.881 Thank you so much guys. Have a good one. You too. 01:06:51.941 --> 01:06:55.661 Yeah. I've, I've had that where I'll go in and I'll just, I'll just see something 01:06:55.661 --> 01:06:59.301 and I'll be like, Ooh, this looks good. And I'll text somebody and like, yeah, that's a good one. 01:06:59.421 --> 01:07:03.441 And the, probably one of my favorites was my, my mother-in-law could not remember 01:07:03.441 --> 01:07:04.441 that it was Elijah Craig. 01:07:04.901 --> 01:07:08.001 So she got me a bottle one year for Christmas. She couldn't remember. 01:07:08.201 --> 01:07:11.961 She knew it was a name, so she ended up getting me a bottle of Jeremiah Weed. 01:07:12.721 --> 01:07:16.261 And I was like, these are completely different. These are completely different. 01:07:16.461 --> 01:07:18.281 That Jeremiah Weed was horrible. Wow. 01:07:18.581 --> 01:07:23.581 There's a lot of other names she could have got. She picked her worst one. 01:07:23.921 --> 01:07:27.901 Yeah. Oh, yeah. But she did get me a bottle of the Bob Dylan one, 01:07:28.001 --> 01:07:31.781 the Heaven's Door, when it first came out. And that was fantastic. I enjoyed that. 01:07:32.461 --> 01:07:38.461 That's all right. But yeah. Yeah. Jeremiah Weed was not it. That was a lot of names. 01:07:39.461 --> 01:07:42.221 Jeremiah weed is not one of the ones you 01:07:42.221 --> 01:07:44.981 want to buy yeah no that was bad that was bad that was bad 01:07:44.981 --> 01:07:48.821 I tried I tried the first time 01:07:48.821 --> 01:07:53.601 that I ever had Elijah Craig my cousin had bought me a 175 you know and the 01:07:53.601 --> 01:07:58.261 bottle shape is exactly the same it's just bigger and my whole wedding party 01:07:58.261 --> 01:08:03.241 we were all together in the hotel room getting ready and we were drinking Elijah 01:08:03.241 --> 01:08:06.881 Craig and we'd been so we set up the wedding. 01:08:07.221 --> 01:08:12.461 Like I built the dance floor. We set up the tents for people to sit under. 01:08:12.621 --> 01:08:16.761 We set up all the chairs. We did all the work and we were drinking beer the 01:08:16.761 --> 01:08:20.141 whole time from like nine in the morning up until we were. 01:08:20.241 --> 01:08:23.421 And so, you know, my blood was very thin. 01:08:24.181 --> 01:08:29.001 And so we're drinking Elijah Craig and I get in the shower and I was shaving 01:08:29.001 --> 01:08:33.801 my head and I cut a chunk out of my head and it would not stop bleeding. 01:08:34.121 --> 01:08:35.881 It just wouldn't fucking stop bleeding. 01:08:36.481 --> 01:08:42.041 And so this is kind of tangential to Elijah Craig, but finally got to stop bleeding. 01:08:42.261 --> 01:08:46.061 And then that night when we went back to the hotel room, you know, 01:08:46.061 --> 01:08:50.041 my wife and I, we were, we were drunk as shit because there was two free beer 01:08:50.041 --> 01:08:53.761 kegs and people were giving us all the champagne had been drank. 01:08:53.901 --> 01:08:57.061 So we toasted with bourbon. We were drinking bourbon all night long, whatever. 01:08:57.261 --> 01:09:03.401 My neighbor was there and he brought a 175 of Weller and a 175 of Eagle Rare. 01:09:03.561 --> 01:09:04.401 And we killed both those. 01:09:04.581 --> 01:09:07.561 But it was a good time. It was a redneck wedding. 01:09:07.781 --> 01:09:11.761 The whole thing cost two grand. We fed everybody pizza. 01:09:12.061 --> 01:09:14.281 We had 50 pizzas. 01:09:15.053 --> 01:09:20.753 50 pizzas that we got for fucking, uh, $5 a piece is after 10 large pizzas, 01:09:20.933 --> 01:09:24.233 they were $5 each. So I'm just a ridiculous amount. 01:09:24.513 --> 01:09:29.093 And anyway, so I woke up the next morning, stuck to the pillow because the blood 01:09:29.093 --> 01:09:34.373 on the back of my head, that, that wound had opened back up and bled on the pillow a little bit. 01:09:34.733 --> 01:09:38.733 And I was stuck to the shop, you know, and when we left, I looked at the, 01:09:38.733 --> 01:09:42.953 the housekeeper outside and I said, ma'am, I swear I didn't murder anybody in 01:09:42.953 --> 01:09:47.373 that hotel room. And I cut my head open getting ready for the wedding last night. 01:09:47.633 --> 01:09:51.193 And I just happened to get, you know, it just opened up while I was asleep. 01:09:51.853 --> 01:09:59.613 So we left and we're gone for 15 minutes. And I realized that I left my 45 in the hotel room. 01:09:59.813 --> 01:10:03.353 So then I had to call him and I was like, I'm the guy that was in the bloody 01:10:03.353 --> 01:10:05.613 hotel room. And I left my gun in the drawer. 01:10:06.533 --> 01:10:08.333 I'm on my way back to get it right now. 01:10:10.893 --> 01:10:13.613 It was a situation but that was my 01:10:13.613 --> 01:10:16.493 first encounter with elijah craig and and i've been 01:10:16.493 --> 01:10:19.273 a bourbon drinker since i was in my 20s i 01:10:19.273 --> 01:10:22.053 was 30 let's see 01:10:22.053 --> 01:10:25.013 35 at that 01:10:25.013 --> 01:10:28.013 point i've been married seven years so i was 35 years old at that point i'd 01:10:28.013 --> 01:10:30.893 never had elijah craig i've been a wild turkey drinker since 01:10:30.893 --> 01:10:33.933 i was 19 years old so bringing it 01:10:33.933 --> 01:10:36.893 back around to the rye full circle of the rye wild turkey rye if 01:10:36.893 --> 01:10:41.113 you ever have the chance or if you ever see it highly recommended damn good 01:10:41.113 --> 01:10:47.213 stuff but there's there's there's very few of the bigger companies right that 01:10:47.213 --> 01:10:56.093 are doing rye incorrectly paul lives in maryland and there's a company there in maryland that that, 01:10:56.815 --> 01:10:59.775 makes a damn good rye that you 01:10:59.775 --> 01:11:02.635 could probably find in your area because you're just 01:11:02.635 --> 01:11:05.595 a couple states away so paul the 01:11:05.595 --> 01:11:08.455 name is escaping me what's it called with that awesome bottle 01:11:08.455 --> 01:11:11.395 design oh sagamore yeah absolutely yeah 01:11:11.395 --> 01:11:14.795 sagamore fantastic rye 01:11:14.795 --> 01:11:20.935 they're they're sibling their own now so get i mean sagamore's fantastic and 01:11:20.935 --> 01:11:25.835 i'll just throw out there too catoctin creek which is in virginia which you 01:11:25.835 --> 01:11:30.055 can probably get i've had i've had the dawson creek it is fucking awesome i 01:11:30.055 --> 01:11:33.775 had i had one of their whiskeys it was very good i killed that wild quick. 01:11:34.795 --> 01:11:40.835 So speaking of guar earlier they actually did a guar series where the the toppers 01:11:40.835 --> 01:11:45.235 were the heads of the individual band members of war, 01:11:45.995 --> 01:11:52.635 had war come into their distillery and just it was you can go on youtube and 01:11:52.635 --> 01:11:56.875 look for it it's fucking ridiculous like those those guys are fucking ridiculous. 01:11:58.670 --> 01:12:07.010 They're assholes. I mean, they're all... So right now, they get all these guys 01:12:07.010 --> 01:12:10.630 to just sign on, and it's no different than when they get the celebrities to 01:12:10.630 --> 01:12:13.450 sign on to cigar companies, and they're supposed to be great cigars. 01:12:13.590 --> 01:12:16.850 The Tyson cigar was absolute trash. They've actually discontinued that. 01:12:17.970 --> 01:12:24.290 Probably the best series done in cigars with a celebrity is the Knuckle Sandwich 01:12:24.290 --> 01:12:27.270 series with Guy Fieri because he's an actual cigar smoker. 01:12:27.270 --> 01:12:30.670 And that series is fantastic in the 01:12:30.670 --> 01:12:33.370 alcohol side of it you've had you know everybody's done 01:12:33.370 --> 01:12:39.650 something slipknot did one and a friend of mine rolled into his local in iowa 01:12:39.650 --> 01:12:43.970 well he's he's in indiana so he rolled into his his shop and it was a dusty 01:12:43.970 --> 01:12:48.730 old bottle on the shelf he grabbed it it got it for 40 bucks and the fucking 01:12:48.730 --> 01:12:52.370 thing was signed by the whole band and he got it for 40 I'm like, 01:12:52.450 --> 01:12:54.930 that is fucking bullshit I had that exact story, 01:12:55.570 --> 01:13:01.150 There's a lady There's a lady that was part of the group That we all met through 01:13:01.150 --> 01:13:08.990 She's out in Washington State And she is in The Air Force, and she walked into A, shit, 01:13:09.070 --> 01:13:13.150 what do you call it The stores they have on base And there was a dusty ass bottle 01:13:13.150 --> 01:13:18.070 Just sitting there that she got for 45 bucks And it was signed by Clown And Corey Taylor, 01:13:19.370 --> 01:13:20.370 And Sid. 01:13:21.790 --> 01:13:24.410 And Tortilla Man is what they called him at the time. 01:13:24.590 --> 01:13:27.850 I can't remember his actual name. Arturo Venturella, I think. 01:13:28.890 --> 01:13:34.030 And $45. And she grabbed it up, sent it on my way. It's sitting upstairs unopened. 01:13:34.390 --> 01:13:38.790 I said to him, I said, are you going to open it? He goes, fucking no way. 01:13:39.170 --> 01:13:41.750 He's going to sit there forever. He's a huge Slipknot fan. 01:13:43.190 --> 01:13:47.810 It's good though. I got unsigned bottle and it's good. 01:13:49.064 --> 01:13:52.804 It's very good whiskey. So, I mean, that's one of the, one of the, 01:13:52.904 --> 01:13:57.404 you know, the weird celebrity ones that is actually good. 01:13:57.584 --> 01:14:02.824 I mean, we talk about that, about being, you know, celebrity whiskeys are normal. 01:14:03.164 --> 01:14:06.064 They're usually shit. You know, you just put your name on something, 01:14:06.224 --> 01:14:09.044 but the Slipknot one is a really good one. 01:14:09.184 --> 01:14:13.124 The Menallica one's a really good one. I mean, there's a handful that are really 01:14:13.124 --> 01:14:16.804 good ones. And the number nine is, is a really good one. 01:14:16.964 --> 01:14:19.884 The one that I cannot get my hands on, i've been trying is and. 01:14:19.884 --> 01:14:22.804 I don't even drink gin but i just want a bottle of it because it's fucking. 01:14:22.804 --> 01:14:25.524 In flames but they do a gin and you can only 01:14:25.524 --> 01:14:28.744 get it overseas and volbeat just came out with a whiskey and 01:14:28.744 --> 01:14:33.424 i would love to get my hands on but again it's only overseas so you 01:14:33.424 --> 01:14:36.164 know we obviously have a difference of opinion when it comes 01:14:36.164 --> 01:14:39.224 to sleep token but i've also had that same difference 01:14:39.224 --> 01:14:42.744 of opinion with other metalheads when it comes to volbeat and 01:14:42.744 --> 01:14:46.804 lots of uh lots of shit talking because of 01:14:46.804 --> 01:14:49.504 of his voice you know and they 01:14:49.504 --> 01:14:53.184 they you know oh well you you know lots 01:14:53.184 --> 01:14:55.984 of people talk shit about metallica but you know what 01:14:55.984 --> 01:14:58.864 it yes i mean but it's the it's there 01:14:58.864 --> 01:15:02.104 right the comparisons there still volbeat is 01:15:02.104 --> 01:15:05.084 amazing that newest album the temple of 01:15:05.084 --> 01:15:07.924 occur is one of my favorite songs that they've ever come out 01:15:07.924 --> 01:15:10.564 with that that whole album is from i rock it out 01:15:10.564 --> 01:15:13.704 in the gym all the time time playlist the you 01:15:13.704 --> 01:15:16.504 know and and uh they've done i look at 01:15:16.504 --> 01:15:20.304 that as it's it's rockabilly metal and his 01:15:20.304 --> 01:15:23.084 voice i absolutely fucking love and like i 01:15:23.084 --> 01:15:26.084 was i've been a fan since the early albums before they got 01:15:26.084 --> 01:15:29.724 big in the states and the earlier stuff guitar gangsters 01:15:29.724 --> 01:15:35.504 is is just everything off of those albums were fucking fantastic and the the 01:15:35.504 --> 01:15:38.784 song that got me into them was i only want to be with you which is a cover of 01:15:38.784 --> 01:15:44.964 an old 50 song and i'm like oh yeah that song hits it's great yep it's so great 01:15:44.964 --> 01:15:47.624 there's a i can't remember the the. 01:15:50.307 --> 01:15:55.347 Okay, somebody that I don't know just sent me a really weird text about my daughter, 01:15:55.347 --> 01:16:00.787 so I'm about to go a little bit postal, because I was watching a documentary 01:16:00.787 --> 01:16:04.307 last night about the unknown. Have you guys seen this shit? 01:16:05.407 --> 01:16:10.907 Yeah, it's nothing like that. This is a text that said, would Ellen be allowed 01:16:10.907 --> 01:16:17.847 this, which is my daughter, and it's a picture of a dirt bike from T-MU for $225. 01:16:18.747 --> 01:16:22.987 I don't know who the fuck that is. but a friend of mine so i used to play a 01:16:22.987 --> 01:16:28.187 online it's called an mmorpg a massive, 01:16:28.887 --> 01:16:34.947 multiplayer online role-playing game and the servers for it were in the netherlands 01:16:34.947 --> 01:16:41.807 and it was a it was basically risk hold on a sec so it says i'm an influencer 01:16:41.807 --> 01:16:47.927 for team move so it doesn't cost me money i promote their social items on timu and blocked. 01:16:51.427 --> 01:16:57.687 So i get those text messages all the time with the uh or the chinese girl on 01:16:57.687 --> 01:17:02.227 it going hey did you like my picture and i said i showed the time and i'll go look i got a date. 01:17:04.367 --> 01:17:07.227 So i'm gonna say so you're an influencer you know 01:17:07.227 --> 01:17:11.407 my daughter's name yeah so anyway i'm 01:17:11.407 --> 01:17:14.687 all in what's your venmo yeah 01:17:14.687 --> 01:17:17.867 yeah no i'm i'm 01:17:17.867 --> 01:17:23.747 building this shit up to because because fuck them anyway it's it was risk so 01:17:23.747 --> 01:17:28.547 it wasn't like it there were no graphics it was a a map a stationary map and 01:17:28.547 --> 01:17:34.907 stationary images and then you you play from there but the The guy that introduced me to Volbeat, 01:17:35.067 --> 01:17:39.287 I was 27 at the time, so it was 15 years ago. 01:17:40.007 --> 01:17:44.887 And he was like, here's – oh, okay, okay. 01:17:45.427 --> 01:17:54.067 We've got more updates from the – No, this is my friend's mom. Yeah. 01:17:55.591 --> 01:18:08.851 Not Indian Stormer, it is Friend's Mom Now this is Her friend Ellen's Mother, so Ellen, my Daughter, 01:18:09.731 --> 01:18:12.931 her friend's Mom is named Ellen As well, 01:18:13.071 --> 01:18:19.391 and I was about to get Real nasty Eat a bag of dicks I wish you would have I 01:18:19.391 --> 01:18:23.831 wish you would have I wish that wouldn't have been a miscommunication Where 01:18:23.831 --> 01:18:29.471 you got really nasty With a friend God That would have been so great Did you tell, 01:18:30.191 --> 01:18:33.751 She She said She She. 01:18:35.311 --> 01:18:41.211 No She just Texted back She just texted back And said I wish you would have started with that, 01:18:41.831 --> 01:18:47.391 Yeah Yeah anyway That was 15 years ago When I first And it was I only want to 01:18:47.391 --> 01:18:54.571 be with you And Shit What is it Going to prom Going to prom Radio girl No Like in 01:18:54.891 --> 01:19:00.291 radio girl was the song that my son that was his call oh yeah yeah i was in 01:19:00.291 --> 01:19:02.591 it before that i was in it from the first couple albums. 01:19:03.684 --> 01:19:06.884 This was well beyond heaven above hell was 2010 so 01:19:06.884 --> 01:19:10.264 that was that was 15 years ago right so and 01:19:10.264 --> 01:19:12.984 then the the one the the song that i 01:19:12.984 --> 01:19:16.324 really like is devil's bleeding crown i fucking that 01:19:16.324 --> 01:19:19.404 song and the temple of occur there's there's 01:19:19.404 --> 01:19:22.384 so many of those i just there's ball beats 01:19:22.384 --> 01:19:25.464 awesome i don't give a fuck what he says they're not they're 01:19:25.464 --> 01:19:28.844 not technically metal but they're kind of like a rockabilly you 01:19:28.844 --> 01:19:31.564 know kind of i just love it i just i've seen them 01:19:31.564 --> 01:19:34.464 every time that i get the opportunity to see him i see him 01:19:34.464 --> 01:19:38.744 dying for them to do a cover of ring of fire yeah 01:19:38.744 --> 01:19:42.424 so well he's got johnny cash 01:19:42.424 --> 01:19:48.104 on his body he's got elvis aaron presley tattooed on his body several uh several 01:19:48.104 --> 01:19:52.324 times too but i've always said i mean like how many covers they've done i'm 01:19:52.324 --> 01:19:56.184 not a big fan of because i'm like man they could have done something different 01:19:56.184 --> 01:19:59.864 but when they did uh battleship chains i I absolutely love that one. 01:20:00.004 --> 01:20:04.944 And I still, I've actually heard them do parts of ring of fire during a concert, like live. 01:20:05.204 --> 01:20:09.404 And then when they do at the end of the show and they do that whole medley of 01:20:09.404 --> 01:20:13.284 stuff and it actually, they actually turned it into Slayton on one of the albums. 01:20:13.704 --> 01:20:16.264 I fucking love it. I love it. When they come out with playing Slayer, 01:20:16.364 --> 01:20:20.444 cause he, he used to be in a, in a death metal band from years ago. 01:20:20.924 --> 01:20:22.504 And before he got into Volbeat. 01:20:23.584 --> 01:20:28.504 Yeah. Yeah. What's his name? Michael. I can't remember, but yeah, Michael Poulsen. 01:20:28.744 --> 01:20:31.784 He was in a death metal called, he was in a death metal band. 01:20:31.964 --> 01:20:33.604 I think they were called death. Yeah. 01:20:35.240 --> 01:20:38.860 And he just got tired of the whole death metal scene and 01:20:38.860 --> 01:20:41.680 so he was like i'm gonna go do this thing and they're 01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:45.180 great they're great and a lot of my heritage comes 01:20:45.180 --> 01:20:47.920 from scotland and england and then 01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:50.940 before that norway so you gotta be an i'm 01:20:50.940 --> 01:20:54.540 on our mind too right i am i'm preachers i 01:20:54.540 --> 01:20:57.380 am preachers i am and and dimul 01:20:57.380 --> 01:21:00.060 brozier all those guys like like i 01:21:00.060 --> 01:21:02.980 said i'm a big swedish death 01:21:02.980 --> 01:21:08.600 metal guy so or swedish melodic metal i really like the swedish i really like 01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:13.180 the melodic metal so first time i saw mana marth they opened with it was them 01:21:13.180 --> 01:21:19.120 armored saint suicidal tendencies opening for megadeth and when they first came 01:21:19.120 --> 01:21:22.180 out so everything is steeped in the viking. 01:21:23.040 --> 01:21:25.780 Storyline with them and so they're all coming 01:21:25.780 --> 01:21:29.040 out with the with with thor's hammer and all 01:21:29.040 --> 01:21:32.120 all the all the insignia from from odinism 01:21:32.120 --> 01:21:34.860 and at that time when i saw him i 01:21:34.860 --> 01:21:38.140 was i mean i was i was always in work mode so 01:21:38.140 --> 01:21:41.100 a lot of our white supremacists they would hide their 01:21:41.100 --> 01:21:44.400 white supremacy behind the religion of odinism 01:21:44.400 --> 01:21:47.360 which is it right so odinism is literally 01:21:47.360 --> 01:21:50.460 a fucking prison term and so it's it's 01:21:50.460 --> 01:21:53.180 a satsuru is the actual religion so when they come out 01:21:53.180 --> 01:21:56.500 and they got all this shit on my son i'm just kind of like processing 01:21:56.500 --> 01:21:59.200 and my son's next to me going turn it off turn it off i know what 01:21:59.200 --> 01:22:01.960 you're doing because they all had the fucking they all had thor's hammer 01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:04.620 on them they had they had all the symbols that all my white supremacists use 01:22:04.620 --> 01:22:07.260 and i'm like these aren't white supremacists this is actual fucking these are this is 01:22:07.260 --> 01:22:10.000 actually fucking viking religion i'm okay and it 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:13.940 but it was it was my son knew exactly where my head was because that was my 01:22:13.940 --> 01:22:18.220 world all the time so it was everything was gang related in my head and so he 01:22:18.220 --> 01:22:22.520 was just he was just laughing at me but they put on a fucking killer show yeah 01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:27.900 oh yeah yeah well i've actually got so like i told you That I got a tattoo on 01:22:27.900 --> 01:22:29.640 my leg, which is, you know, 01:22:29.820 --> 01:22:34.700 I started working on my, on my, on my leg sleeve, which is that skull right there. 01:22:36.156 --> 01:22:39.636 See where it's covering up and i've got 01:22:39.636 --> 01:22:42.716 roots so i've got 01:22:42.716 --> 01:22:45.456 them all the way around my leg here and the 01:22:45.456 --> 01:22:49.436 only reason i'm getting covered up getting covered up is because you 01:22:49.436 --> 01:22:53.756 know back in the day i used to mess around with odinism 01:22:53.756 --> 01:22:56.736 and and black magic and all that bullshit 01:22:56.736 --> 01:23:00.056 and i don't anymore and you 01:23:00.056 --> 01:23:03.596 know i just i just want to get it covered up but yeah 01:23:03.596 --> 01:23:06.876 if you've got like i mean you might have a 01:23:06.876 --> 01:23:10.256 thor's hammer tattoo right and if 01:23:10.256 --> 01:23:13.116 you go to prison you get that thor's hammer tattoo 01:23:13.116 --> 01:23:16.476 well you're automatically considered to be a white supremacist 01:23:16.476 --> 01:23:21.776 even if you know you've got different outlooks and beliefs and whatever and 01:23:21.776 --> 01:23:26.416 uh religious views and but then that's a thing that co-opted for themselves 01:23:26.416 --> 01:23:31.056 and that the fucking sucks well it's it's you know what i mean so the the history 01:23:31.056 --> 01:23:34.456 behind it is what it stemmed from the Nazis and Hitler, 01:23:34.556 --> 01:23:38.076 what he did was he considered it the pure white religion. 01:23:38.256 --> 01:23:44.836 So he took symbols from the Nordic, from, from, from Odinism and he brought that into Nazism. 01:23:44.976 --> 01:23:46.936 So that's where you're going to get a lot of that crossover. 01:23:47.216 --> 01:23:49.936 So he's the one that, that's where it all started. And that's, 01:23:49.976 --> 01:23:53.856 so a lot of times, you know, we, we, more times than not, it was more white 01:23:53.856 --> 01:23:58.036 supremacist based than it was actually a Satri based when the guys I was dealing with. 01:23:59.778 --> 01:24:04.238 Sure. But the, uh, it was called, I'm sorry, a little drunk. 01:24:04.378 --> 01:24:09.698 What was the, it was called the shit, the what race that started with an A? The Aryan. 01:24:10.138 --> 01:24:15.658 Yeah. Yeah. So the Aryan race, do y'all, do y'all know where that fucking came from? 01:24:15.838 --> 01:24:18.318 Do you know where the Aryan race actually existed? 01:24:19.318 --> 01:24:25.418 In India. In fucking India. Yeah. It doesn't make any goddamn sense what he 01:24:25.418 --> 01:24:26.538 had to say, what he was doing. 01:24:26.958 --> 01:24:30.238 There's a whole lot about Hitler that didn't make any fucking sense. 01:24:30.818 --> 01:24:32.478 So I'm pro-Jewish. 01:24:33.118 --> 01:24:34.418 Jerry is Jewish as well. 01:24:35.158 --> 01:24:39.078 It doesn't, you know, I've looked into this shit a little bit and not much, 01:24:39.178 --> 01:24:41.198 but it just doesn't make any fucking sense anyway. 01:24:41.378 --> 01:24:47.638 But the Aryan race actually existed in the, you know, around the Indian subcontinent. 01:24:47.638 --> 01:24:53.598 So they, they weren't white, you know, blonde hair, blue eyed motherfuckers 01:24:53.598 --> 01:24:59.598 that like, it's, it's clearly, you know, so it didn't make any fucking sense. But at any rate, yeah. 01:24:59.778 --> 01:25:04.658 So the, the, the force hammer and all those things, if you have those things 01:25:04.658 --> 01:25:08.858 tattooed on your body, well, you go to prison, you're clearly a white supremacist. 01:25:08.938 --> 01:25:11.158 So you might as well go ahead and join the skinheads. 01:25:11.738 --> 01:25:17.578 And, but, but the sad thing is, I'm sure you will know this, you know, if it were me. 01:25:18.098 --> 01:25:24.958 Going to prison, God forbid, because I don't want that. I'm going to have to be co-opted into... 01:25:26.830 --> 01:25:30.650 Skinhead group pretty much otherwise i'm 01:25:30.650 --> 01:25:33.870 gonna end up dead even if i don't their idea behind 01:25:33.870 --> 01:25:36.610 it is what you do is once you get in you get checked you get what they 01:25:36.610 --> 01:25:39.270 call g checked and you get in there and most times they're gonna 01:25:39.270 --> 01:25:42.650 tell you to cover it up or get down it's so 01:25:42.650 --> 01:25:45.430 that's kind of your that's kind of your your choice so you 01:25:45.430 --> 01:25:48.170 either cover up your tattoo no one even even knowing what it means 01:25:48.170 --> 01:25:51.350 and what it means to you is legitimate but once they 01:25:51.350 --> 01:25:54.090 see it you're either gonna you got to you know that's ours you 01:25:54.090 --> 01:25:57.490 got to cover it up or you fucking get down well i don't 01:25:57.490 --> 01:26:00.310 have any tattoos that would be like my whole right 01:26:00.310 --> 01:26:03.650 arm is covered in japanese art 01:26:03.650 --> 01:26:06.870 my whole left arm is covered in horror movies 01:26:06.870 --> 01:26:13.750 and so like you know a heart for my grandmother and my grandfather a ship for 01:26:13.750 --> 01:26:19.990 my uncle who served in the navy here a big ass rose and then i've got pinhead 01:26:19.990 --> 01:26:25.310 and i've got freddy and And I've got Michael Myers and I've got the house from Psycho. 01:26:26.010 --> 01:26:31.410 I don't have anything that could be construed as racist, 01:26:31.710 --> 01:26:39.530 which is hilarious because within my capacity as a martial arts instructor, 01:26:39.730 --> 01:26:44.510 one of the first things that happened to me was I had a family that said that I was racist. 01:26:44.510 --> 01:26:51.390 Because they said that I had a quote-unquote Mexican boy, those are their words. 01:26:52.130 --> 01:26:55.110 Bowing to the American flag on my mat. 01:26:55.230 --> 01:26:59.950 Now, everybody, regardless of the color of their skin or their ethnic origin, 01:27:00.650 --> 01:27:01.850 bowed towards that flag. 01:27:01.870 --> 01:27:06.810 There's an American flag and a South Korean flag. Ours was exactly the same. 01:27:08.178 --> 01:27:14.378 Yeah. So they bow before they get on my mat. But the little boy is actually Filipino. 01:27:14.978 --> 01:27:19.098 And so they, they made that decision that he was in their minds, 01:27:19.658 --> 01:27:24.178 Mexican based on what they saw from standing behind him. 01:27:24.938 --> 01:27:30.678 And they're there so the father is well he told me that he's black i don't know, 01:27:31.278 --> 01:27:34.298 that those are his words i don't know if he's half or 01:27:34.298 --> 01:27:37.678 quarter or whatever it really doesn't matter but 01:27:37.678 --> 01:27:40.578 they they they said that i was a racist because of that 01:27:40.578 --> 01:27:43.958 because i had this little boy bowing towards the 01:27:43.958 --> 01:27:47.318 flags before he got onto the mat but and 01:27:47.318 --> 01:27:50.058 and then they decided that he was mexican by the color of 01:27:50.058 --> 01:27:54.078 his skin even though he's filipino both 01:27:54.078 --> 01:27:57.038 of his parents are from the philippines both of them they barely speak 01:27:57.038 --> 01:28:02.738 english so that being said i think that makes them more racist than me but i 01:28:02.738 --> 01:28:07.818 don't have any tattoos that would require being covered up but if i go to prison 01:28:07.818 --> 01:28:16.478 you know i'm five seven 190 pounds you know i'm bald-headed this isn't by choice. 01:28:17.438 --> 01:28:25.118 This this is natural this just happened because of my genetics you know i'm 01:28:25.118 --> 01:28:28.818 going to end up being co-opted into something that i'm not going to agree with 01:28:28.818 --> 01:28:33.738 i'm not going to be happy with so you know uh it's it's just it's crazy it's 01:28:33.738 --> 01:28:37.078 craziness the the the way that tattoos, 01:28:37.738 --> 01:28:42.018 happen to work is i mean i guess it's a branding type situation it's it's just 01:28:42.018 --> 01:28:46.078 nuts i have two flags in the garage, but, uh, American flag is above me and 01:28:46.078 --> 01:28:49.698 my Philippine flag is over here and it's my respect to the professor. 01:28:50.098 --> 01:28:53.318 And cause that was my, as much as I love Taekwondo, uh, my, my, 01:28:53.318 --> 01:28:57.438 uh, Tang Soo Do, what I did in there just made so much sense to me. 01:28:57.558 --> 01:28:59.298 And I absolutely, that was my love. 01:28:59.478 --> 01:29:05.178 I actually had a couple of students down here. I taught, who moved away and, uh, I miss it every day. 01:29:05.278 --> 01:29:08.938 I miss it every day, being able to swing those sticks and, and get fucked up 01:29:08.938 --> 01:29:10.658 with sticks. There's nothing better than that feeling. 01:29:12.102 --> 01:29:16.962 Yeah, I train jujitsu three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 01:29:16.962 --> 01:29:19.662 in the mornings on my lunch break. 01:29:20.062 --> 01:29:25.602 And then I go and I've got two or three days a week in the evenings where I 01:29:25.602 --> 01:29:29.882 go and train Krav or I go and train Taekwondo or whatever. 01:29:30.642 --> 01:29:37.822 And I love it. I love it. When I started training jujitsu, I lost 20 pounds, 20. 01:29:38.082 --> 01:29:42.262 And I was actively trying to get to 200 pounds. I was 195 pounds. 01:29:42.502 --> 01:29:44.882 I lost 20 pounds in a month and a half. 01:29:45.342 --> 01:29:48.962 That shit will wear you the fuck out. 01:29:49.182 --> 01:29:52.622 And if you don't know, if you don't know how to handle yourself on the ground, 01:29:52.782 --> 01:29:57.302 when somebody is standing or sitting on top of your chest, that's the way to go. 01:29:57.782 --> 01:30:02.122 That's what you need to train. That shit is dangerous, but you know, 01:30:02.222 --> 01:30:03.462 it's not the end all be all. 01:30:03.522 --> 01:30:07.122 A lot of, a lot of people think that it is, you know, a lot of people think 01:30:07.122 --> 01:30:08.722 that that's what you need to learn. 01:30:09.342 --> 01:30:13.862 That's not the case. You need to learn I like Krav I like Krav a lot Because 01:30:13.862 --> 01:30:20.682 it's It's Fuck you up real fast And then to go home It's It's It's You know. 01:30:22.087 --> 01:30:28.687 Bring you almost to the end of your life and then go home because you, you try to ruin my day. 01:30:29.067 --> 01:30:33.247 No, I'm going to fuck you up and I'm going to go home. That's what I, I love that. 01:30:34.007 --> 01:30:38.787 So I, that I, I just loved, I've, I've been involved in martial arts since I 01:30:38.787 --> 01:30:45.687 was 12 years old and I love the idea that I can continue to make myself dangerous 01:30:45.687 --> 01:30:47.727 and I think more people should do it. 01:30:47.867 --> 01:30:51.187 I think more people should do it because the world is fucking upside down. 01:30:51.187 --> 01:30:54.027 It's absolutely nuts it's stranger things 01:30:54.027 --> 01:30:56.767 is what we live in it's absolutely bonkers yeah i 01:30:56.767 --> 01:31:00.607 was a late in light we call ourselves lil ma's l-a-l-n-a we're 01:31:00.607 --> 01:31:03.407 a late in life martial artists i got into it late in 01:31:03.407 --> 01:31:08.107 life i've wanted to do it my whole forever and uh but i never had the the fucking 01:31:08.107 --> 01:31:12.667 guts to do it until my kids got involved and then i became really tight with 01:31:12.667 --> 01:31:16.627 their instructor he's my best friend he's like my brother and getting involved 01:31:16.627 --> 01:31:22.467 with him it was i was hanging out with him i was four or five days a week from weapons to just, 01:31:22.467 --> 01:31:25.027 just the basics and just learning tanks, you know, 01:31:25.227 --> 01:31:28.307 and then the Kachikido came in and then I introduced him to our, 01:31:28.407 --> 01:31:32.547 my best friend who was the instructor and it just kind of took on from there 01:31:32.547 --> 01:31:36.267 for, uh, with, with the Arnis piece and it was, it was so much fun. 01:31:37.589 --> 01:31:43.049 Yeah, Tang Soo Do is another form of Korean martial art. It's very, 01:31:43.209 --> 01:31:44.349 very similar to Taekwondo. 01:31:45.229 --> 01:31:51.569 It's funny because there's a gentleman that I know of. I was training with him recently. 01:31:52.369 --> 01:31:57.789 And, you know, Tang Soo Do involves more fists than Taekwondo does, 01:31:58.009 --> 01:31:59.329 right? Taekwondo is all kicks. 01:31:59.529 --> 01:32:04.669 Tang Soo Do is more balanced with kicks and punches. 01:32:04.669 --> 01:32:07.629 And this guy had no idea 01:32:07.629 --> 01:32:10.309 how to use focus mitts i was watching him and 01:32:10.309 --> 01:32:13.069 he was just he didn't know where to he had 01:32:13.069 --> 01:32:15.749 no idea you know it's i mean it's really easy you know 01:32:15.749 --> 01:32:18.629 you you punch left to left right to right for the most part 01:32:18.629 --> 01:32:21.749 he had no idea he was just punching wildly and i 01:32:21.749 --> 01:32:24.529 was like he's a third degree black belt in tanks to 01:32:24.529 --> 01:32:27.189 dough and i was just like man we need to work 01:32:27.189 --> 01:32:30.089 on some shit here like this is we got 01:32:30.089 --> 01:32:33.169 to figure some shit out like this this isn't exactly what's happening 01:32:33.169 --> 01:32:36.089 right now and yeah i i don't 01:32:36.089 --> 01:32:39.189 know i've got a lot of respect for for tanks to 01:32:39.189 --> 01:32:42.589 do practice practitioners there's a woman around 01:32:42.589 --> 01:32:45.749 here and she teaches tanks 01:32:45.749 --> 01:32:53.649 to do and she knows chuck uh and she yeah and his brother she has both of them 01:32:53.649 --> 01:33:00.629 and she she knows them because she learned tanks to do With them both From the 01:33:00.629 --> 01:33:03.929 same instructor That was world Yeah. 01:33:04.929 --> 01:33:09.869 Yeah yeah yeah But she's got a picture of her between Chuck and his brother. 01:33:11.383 --> 01:33:16.843 And, you know, I mean, I mean, it's funny because years ago when I started, 01:33:17.163 --> 01:33:21.423 my instructor was from Korea and we're very insulated, very insular. 01:33:21.583 --> 01:33:25.683 We didn't compete. We didn't do any of those things. He just taught us. And that was it. 01:33:25.923 --> 01:33:30.643 And then years later, when I moved to Lexington and got involved in this, 01:33:30.783 --> 01:33:34.923 my instructor now, he's a seventh degree black belt in Taekwondo. 01:33:35.443 --> 01:33:39.323 He's got a fourth degree black belt in Krav. He's got a black belt in, 01:33:39.443 --> 01:33:44.163 oh, hell, he's got a black belt in, what's it called? 01:33:44.303 --> 01:33:48.943 It's another Korean martial art, but it's all about joint locks and shit. He's got several. 01:33:49.103 --> 01:33:53.683 Anyway, when you really get into that community, you're... 01:33:54.900 --> 01:33:59.840 Horizons broaden really quickly and you find out that it's, it's the community 01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:02.620 is not quite as big as you think it would be. 01:34:02.980 --> 01:34:08.600 And you find yourself within like two or three degrees of knowing this person 01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:11.680 or that person, you know, people that you heard of your whole life, 01:34:11.780 --> 01:34:14.820 but you'd never actually met. You know what I mean? 01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:18.720 So like now I'm within two degrees of Chuck Norris. 01:34:18.900 --> 01:34:22.700 That's fucking bonkers to me. That's absolutely insane to me. 01:34:22.700 --> 01:34:25.520 Like i've never met chuck norris i would 01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:28.400 i i came very close to meeting chuck norris 01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:31.180 at a comic con here in lexton but i've never 01:34:31.180 --> 01:34:34.000 met him but like i'm i'm two degrees from 01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:37.260 actually knowing the man like because of this 01:34:37.260 --> 01:34:40.220 this woman that lives here that takes you don't instructor 01:34:40.220 --> 01:34:43.440 that knows chuck norris like it's my instructor 01:34:43.440 --> 01:34:46.580 he's he's taught all over the u.s he 01:34:46.580 --> 01:34:49.540 was inducted into the martial arts hall of fame back 01:34:49.540 --> 01:34:52.480 in 1998 i think and 01:34:52.480 --> 01:34:55.440 he was a teenager at that point he's taught 01:34:55.440 --> 01:34:58.940 all over the u.s and the world and 01:34:58.940 --> 01:35:05.320 he he knows bill superfoot wallace he knows frank dukes there's a guy that comes 01:35:05.320 --> 01:35:10.400 and sits on our black belt tests all the time that is friends really good friends 01:35:10.400 --> 01:35:15.040 with frank dukes and for anybody that's listening if this makes it into the 01:35:15.040 --> 01:35:18.520 show that doesn't know Frank Dukes, watch Kickboxer, you know. 01:35:18.740 --> 01:35:20.940 I mean, it's just, it's just wild. 01:35:21.120 --> 01:35:25.300 It's just wild how small that community is because it's, it's, 01:35:25.300 --> 01:35:30.340 it's something like 1% of the population takes martial arts and even 1% of that 01:35:30.340 --> 01:35:33.460 1% actually reaches a black belt or higher. You. 01:35:34.519 --> 01:35:37.259 Just crazy to actually know some folks that 01:35:37.259 --> 01:35:40.019 know some folks you know what i mean like the people that i looked 01:35:40.019 --> 01:35:43.739 up to my whole life like i grew up watching jean-claude van 01:35:43.739 --> 01:35:46.499 damme movies i grew up watching bruce lee 01:35:46.499 --> 01:35:51.159 movies i grew up watching all you know all the martial arts guys you know what 01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:55.019 i mean and and still to this day jean-claude van damme movies they're terrible 01:35:55.019 --> 01:36:00.519 they're absolutely awful but i love them i love them kick your blood sport lionheart 01:36:00.519 --> 01:36:04.819 they're fantastic movies absolutely god-awful movies, 01:36:04.979 --> 01:36:07.699 but they're a lot of fun to watch. They're a whole lot of fun to watch. 01:36:07.859 --> 01:36:16.079 So it's just fun to be able to say that I'm within a couple, 01:36:16.779 --> 01:36:20.119 you always see the planets and the rings of their orbit. 01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:25.219 I'm within a couple rings of orbit of some of those guys. It's really cool, I think. 01:36:25.939 --> 01:36:31.259 Well, guys, I think that does it for this episode of Bourbon Beards and Belvedeers. 01:36:31.919 --> 01:36:39.219 As always, don't forget to support your local veterans, active-duty military 01:36:39.219 --> 01:36:44.439 members, and all active-duty military members that are overseas. 01:36:44.839 --> 01:36:50.959 And first responders, LEOs, they're all out there giving everything they've got for us. 01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:56.679 And the least we can do is give them our support. Don't go out there and be an asshole. 01:36:57.259 --> 01:37:00.879 Make sure to show your support for them. 01:37:01.579 --> 01:37:06.159 Also, make sure to support, you know, children. 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