Episode Twenty Five

March 29, 2026

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You're listening to Bourbon, Beards, and Belvedere — the podcast where whiskey, cigars, and beard gear are a lifestyle. Hosts Adam, Paul, and Jerry share honest tastings, laid-back cigar talk, and real-world takes on beard products.

This episode dives into a taste test of Shanky's Whip Irish liqueur, a side-by-side comparison of Old Forester 117 finishes (Scotch, Rum, and extra-old 1910), and cigar pairings that bring out unexpected notes. Expect lively banter, barrel talk, and recommendations for pours and smokes.

Plus: event news, charity reminders, and the usual trio of bold opinions — pour a glass, light up, and enjoy the ride.

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WEBVTT 00:00:11.406 --> 00:00:14.346 You're listening to bourbon beards and 00:00:14.346 --> 00:00:17.806 velveteers the podcast where whiskey cigars 00:00:17.806 --> 00:00:20.966 and beard products aren't just a hobby they're a 00:00:20.966 --> 00:00:23.906 lifestyle hosted by adam paul and 00:00:23.906 --> 00:00:30.326 jerry three guys with real experience full beards and even fuller glasses each 00:00:30.326 --> 00:00:35.626 episode serves up thoughtful tastings laid-back cigar talk and honest takes 00:00:35.626 --> 00:00:41.186 on beard gear and beyond from top shelf pours to everyday essentials. 00:00:41.366 --> 00:00:46.046 This is the place where conversations flow as smooth as the whiskey. 00:00:46.426 --> 00:00:50.786 So, pour a glass, light one up, and enjoy the ride. 00:00:51.026 --> 00:00:54.586 This is Bourbon, Beards, and Belvederes. 00:01:07.246 --> 00:01:11.826 Welcome to Bourbon, Beards, and Belvederes. I'm Adam. And I'm Paul. And I'm Jerry. 00:01:12.306 --> 00:01:16.246 And today we've got quite the full agenda there. 00:01:16.466 --> 00:01:20.406 We've got some whiskeys to drink and a cigar smoke. We're all smoking different things. 00:01:20.606 --> 00:01:25.646 So you're going to hear about individual perspectives as it relates to the whiskeys 00:01:25.646 --> 00:01:27.586 with our individual cigars. 00:01:28.086 --> 00:01:32.646 However, to start, you know, we always start with our palate one. 00:01:33.306 --> 00:01:38.486 We're gonna we're gonna take a step back even from that particular segment of 00:01:38.486 --> 00:01:45.026 our show and start a little different Last week I was not here due to family 00:01:45.026 --> 00:01:47.286 situation Paul and Jerry, 00:01:47.286 --> 00:01:50.006 you know, they handled the St. 00:01:50.146 --> 00:01:52.986 Patty's Day episode by themselves and, 00:01:53.818 --> 00:02:00.078 and had some fairly interesting drinks. I didn't listen to it because one of 00:02:00.078 --> 00:02:04.278 those drinks was sent to him. Actually, everything they had, I have too. 00:02:04.498 --> 00:02:08.438 But one particular thing that was sent out that I was going to try, 00:02:09.258 --> 00:02:13.858 and Jerry, in his infinite wisdom, chimed in with a, don't try it yet. 00:02:13.858 --> 00:02:15.738 We need to have your on-air reaction. 00:02:17.858 --> 00:02:23.158 So I was texting with him today and said that if Paul will buy the actual bottle, 00:02:23.158 --> 00:02:29.858 and that inspires some confidence on my behalf about how good this was going to be. 00:02:29.978 --> 00:02:34.278 And Paul immediately replied with, I also bought a bottle of Nalort. 00:02:34.538 --> 00:02:36.818 So thanks for dashing my hopes, Paul. 00:02:37.258 --> 00:02:40.658 Jerry said he has mixed feelings after he's already drank it. So here we go. 00:02:41.178 --> 00:02:44.038 This is the Shanky's whip made in Ireland as Paul. 00:02:44.578 --> 00:02:48.678 Excuse me. I pulled the tail up there. Do what? I poured some to join you. 00:02:48.938 --> 00:02:51.978 Okay. Okay. So hold that up there for me, Paul. 00:02:52.558 --> 00:02:56.458 No, the, well, the, yes, but I want to see it in the glass. That's a gorgeous 00:02:56.458 --> 00:02:58.438 color. I mean, that's a gorgeous color, you know. 00:02:59.058 --> 00:03:03.618 So already, that's somewhat encouraging. It's this awesome little can. 00:03:03.878 --> 00:03:07.378 Yeah, those cans are awesome. They really are. Turn the light off on my camera 00:03:07.378 --> 00:03:08.618 so people can see a little better. 00:03:09.058 --> 00:03:12.398 It looks a little darker on the camera than it is in real life. 00:03:12.398 --> 00:03:16.558 It's a pastel green color, kind of like a seafoam almost. 00:03:16.558 --> 00:03:20.238 Got this cool old-school label-esque 00:03:20.238 --> 00:03:22.858 artwork on it here it's a 00:03:22.858 --> 00:03:27.758 kick-ass little can whiskey and liqueur made in ireland shanky's whip so i'm 00:03:27.758 --> 00:03:31.278 gonna pop this sucker open i haven't smelled it haven't tasted it nothing i'm 00:03:31.278 --> 00:03:34.698 gonna put this up here and hopefully the microphone will catch the pop did it 00:03:34.698 --> 00:03:41.698 catch it i heard okay so everybody heard it cool now i've got my palate warmer, 00:03:42.218 --> 00:03:44.478 poured up in my glint and I only brought one down here. 00:03:45.098 --> 00:03:47.998 So I have this in here in case this is awful. 00:03:48.903 --> 00:03:52.703 So I'm going to drink it straight from the can. I'm assuming you guys did as well last week, yeah? 00:03:53.363 --> 00:03:56.143 Straight from the can, you poured it in your glens. I went straight from the 00:03:56.143 --> 00:03:59.363 can. Okay. I did both. I can't remember both. All right. 00:03:59.943 --> 00:04:04.423 Wow. So on the nose, that's interesting. 00:04:04.623 --> 00:04:09.823 That is root beer candy right there is what that nose is. I mean, holy shit. 00:04:10.223 --> 00:04:13.763 I was getting butterscotch and cream soda, so fairly close. 00:04:14.023 --> 00:04:18.163 I could also see an Irish car bomb. That's what this smells like is an Irish car bomb. 00:04:18.423 --> 00:04:22.423 Wow. If you've never had an Irish car bomb, I highly suggest you have an Irish car bomb. 00:04:22.523 --> 00:04:27.043 They're easily one of the most drinkable cocktail shots that you can find out there. 00:04:27.423 --> 00:04:30.923 They're also very sneaky and will fuck you up in a heartbeat. 00:04:31.443 --> 00:04:39.103 So is there a proof on this? Did I miss that somewhere? Where's the... It is 66%. Yep. Or 33. 00:04:39.943 --> 00:04:44.863 33%. Yeah, 66%. Okay. I was going to say it has to be 70 or less. 00:04:44.863 --> 00:04:48.903 So now if you hear me coughing and hacking, I am getting sick. 00:04:49.183 --> 00:04:56.483 So please excuse that, but that nose is pleasant. Let's see if it transfers over to my palate. 00:04:57.323 --> 00:05:01.483 Okay. Not nearly as bad as I expected. It's kind of like. 00:05:02.650 --> 00:05:10.930 It's kind of like if you sweetened a cup of espresso with a cream soda. 00:05:11.610 --> 00:05:13.870 If you decided to go that route instead of using sugar. 00:05:15.570 --> 00:05:17.690 I know Paul's been making old fashions with it. 00:05:21.050 --> 00:05:24.990 It's pretty damn good as the sweetener in an old fashioned. 00:05:25.810 --> 00:05:29.750 Yeah, I get the big time cream soda notes off of it that I can't get out of my head. 00:05:29.990 --> 00:05:35.610 I really like it. I mean, it's kind of sticky, like those flavored whiskeys, 00:05:35.850 --> 00:05:36.630 you know, that kind of thing. 00:05:36.750 --> 00:05:42.050 But it's got enough proof on it, and the flavors are there. 00:05:42.210 --> 00:05:45.330 Yeah, I mean, it's like coffee, espresso, chocolate, cream, soda, 00:05:45.370 --> 00:05:47.490 and it's just pretty damn good. I like it. 00:05:47.770 --> 00:05:50.710 Yeah, I put it in my coffee the other day. It worked pretty well. 00:05:51.430 --> 00:05:55.650 Basically, you got all that butterscotch, cream, soda-style notes in it with 00:05:55.650 --> 00:06:00.950 the coffee. So it goes pretty well with the, instead of like a creamer for the coffee. 00:06:01.650 --> 00:06:05.630 Yeah, that's, that is very interesting. I don't know who had this idea. 00:06:05.910 --> 00:06:09.150 Can I see that label again, Paul? Is it the same? I think it's the same. 00:06:09.850 --> 00:06:15.030 Okay. Awesome. Yeah. It looks like a animal crackers. Yeah, it does. 00:06:15.930 --> 00:06:21.530 Or, you know, any number of, my grandmother used to collect old advertisement signs. 00:06:22.430 --> 00:06:29.670 And when I say old, I mean that shit. So like 1920s, 1930s, you know. 00:06:31.150 --> 00:06:36.010 From when she was, I think she was born in the 30s when she was a little girl. 00:06:36.250 --> 00:06:41.570 But, wow, that is interesting. I am going to hold on to the other half of that 00:06:41.570 --> 00:06:44.870 and give that to my wife here in a little bit and let her try that. 00:06:45.610 --> 00:06:49.190 The problem there is that she's going to like it and we can't get it here. 00:06:49.410 --> 00:06:52.950 So, Paul, I may be hitting you up. What was the cost on that? Yeah. 00:06:55.591 --> 00:06:58.551 $30 maybe? Something like that. I got it at Total Wine. 00:06:58.831 --> 00:07:04.091 I think you can get it in a $175 as well if you so choose. 00:07:04.811 --> 00:07:07.871 Jesus, what would you do with that much liqueur? I mean, that's... 00:07:07.871 --> 00:07:12.011 God. I don't know anybody that drinks that shit like that. You know what I mean? 00:07:12.911 --> 00:07:16.851 You can't get it at your Total Wine? I figured it was pretty widely available, no? 00:07:17.151 --> 00:07:21.791 I do not see it. I did not see it when I checked. I checked the other day whenever 00:07:21.791 --> 00:07:24.511 you posted the picture of your... Oh, boy. 00:07:24.791 --> 00:07:32.831 It is on sale at ABC down here in Florida for $19.99 for $7.50. 00:07:33.271 --> 00:07:35.511 It's not moving. Case up. 00:07:36.551 --> 00:07:43.911 Not moving, despite the very mobile person. I don't know if that's a male or a female. 00:07:44.171 --> 00:07:49.071 Looks like a male. That's very mobile. There's a mustache, so I'm going to lean 00:07:49.071 --> 00:07:50.611 male. I didn't see the mustache. 00:07:51.071 --> 00:07:55.151 My label is much bigger than that little guy. Hey, there's a woman that works 00:07:55.151 --> 00:07:58.011 at one of the McDonald's here in town that has a better mustache than I do. 00:07:58.171 --> 00:08:00.891 That's what I said. It's got a lean male on that one. 00:08:01.051 --> 00:08:03.811 But, yeah, I can't make assumptions anymore, right? 00:08:04.031 --> 00:08:10.871 But $27.99 I picked this one up for. And then the $175 is $45.99. 00:08:10.911 --> 00:08:15.411 And it looks like it comes in the same exact bottle but just, like, bigger. 00:08:15.571 --> 00:08:18.511 So, like, a big, nice glass $175 bottle. 00:08:18.971 --> 00:08:23.071 Yeah, that, I don't know if you had the chance to try it with a, 00:08:23.211 --> 00:08:26.891 well, you've got a cigar right there and you had some straight in your glass. 00:08:27.511 --> 00:08:32.731 That is, I don't care what cigar you're smoking. If you're smoking any kind 00:08:32.731 --> 00:08:38.651 of cigar that's got any kind of tobacco flavor to it, it's going to enhance 00:08:38.651 --> 00:08:41.851 that coffee in that shankies. 00:08:41.951 --> 00:08:45.391 And it did for me. Now, the cigar I'm smoking is a Maduro. 00:08:47.175 --> 00:08:53.115 But that's very interesting. That's probably, you know, I would put that up 00:08:53.115 --> 00:08:59.695 there as far as what my taste buds like with a screwball, you know, 00:08:59.775 --> 00:09:00.975 the peanut butter whiskey. 00:09:01.275 --> 00:09:04.755 You know, you can't call it whiskey. I don't know how they get away with putting 00:09:04.755 --> 00:09:08.035 that on the label. But at any rate, that shit's pretty delicious. 00:09:08.535 --> 00:09:13.055 And that Shanky's is as well. So whoever came up with that, well done. 00:09:13.055 --> 00:09:19.935 I wonder how old this company is, if that's something new or if that's a company 00:09:19.935 --> 00:09:21.035 that's been around for a while, whatever. 00:09:21.355 --> 00:09:25.095 It's good. I like it. So thank God it wasn't. 00:09:25.215 --> 00:09:28.935 I was expecting to take a drink and just go, God in heaven, just lose my mind. 00:09:29.595 --> 00:09:30.835 That's not what happened, thankfully. 00:09:31.615 --> 00:09:35.635 That's pretty decent. It's definitely a bottle that I'm going to have around 00:09:35.635 --> 00:09:37.575 the house. I have said it. 00:09:39.037 --> 00:09:42.857 Changes up the old-fashioned slightly. I don't mind a pour like this on its own. 00:09:43.057 --> 00:09:48.557 It's much better ice-cold because I put this bottle in the fridge door because 00:09:48.557 --> 00:09:51.237 I figured I'd probably use it mostly for old-fashions. 00:09:51.857 --> 00:09:55.277 The colder it gets, the better. It kind of gets a little thicker and sweeter 00:09:55.277 --> 00:09:57.937 somehow when it's cold. Tastes sweeter at least. 00:09:58.337 --> 00:10:02.397 But, yeah, I mean, it says right on the back of the bottle that's the original 00:10:02.397 --> 00:10:07.357 black whiskey and liqueur, and it says try on the rocks as an ice-cold shot 00:10:07.357 --> 00:10:09.537 or with your favorite mixer. Okay. 00:10:10.317 --> 00:10:16.437 Well, I could definitely see using this as a sweetener or something like that. 00:10:16.617 --> 00:10:21.057 It is a little sweet for me, which is saying something because I drink Dr. 00:10:21.057 --> 00:10:22.577 Pepper like they're never going to make any more. 00:10:23.457 --> 00:10:28.597 Saying that, I wonder how this would go with like a whipping Coke instead of like a rum and Coke. 00:10:28.877 --> 00:10:31.477 Nope. I'm kind of wondering how it would go with a Dr. Pepper now. 00:10:31.757 --> 00:10:35.657 Well, when you said that, it popped in my head. I wonder, because the bottle 00:10:35.657 --> 00:10:40.157 doesn't say use as a mixer with your favorite spirit. 00:10:40.457 --> 00:10:45.977 It says use this with your favorite mixer. So they want this to be the spirit. 00:10:46.677 --> 00:10:49.237 So, yeah, I wonder how that'll stand up against the soda. 00:10:50.397 --> 00:10:54.557 That's good shit. I wonder what Irish whiskey they use or if they distill their 00:10:54.557 --> 00:10:55.957 own specifically for this. 00:10:56.317 --> 00:11:01.057 It doesn't give you much on the bottle. I think it says at the bottom distilled 00:11:01.057 --> 00:11:03.357 from whey. Did I read that? 00:11:04.597 --> 00:11:08.237 Not. It's on the front. I think it's on the front. 00:11:09.197 --> 00:11:13.417 I guess that's a distillery in Ireland. Bigger and Leaf. I don't have any idea 00:11:13.417 --> 00:11:15.037 who that is. I've never heard of them, but... 00:11:16.145 --> 00:11:19.005 Whatever. That's good. Yeah, that's pretty good stuff. 00:11:19.765 --> 00:11:24.185 Well, let's jump right back into the regular format of the show. 00:11:24.605 --> 00:11:26.085 Starting with our pallet warmers. 00:11:26.685 --> 00:11:32.045 Just like always, Paul, you gave me this gift to this Shanky's Whip, so let's start with you. 00:11:32.525 --> 00:11:35.025 I grabbed Sazerai 93th. 00:11:36.545 --> 00:11:40.185 I knew we'd be starting with that whip, and I knew that would be sweet, 00:11:40.305 --> 00:11:44.305 so I grabbed a rye to kind of cut back in and set on my pallet down. 00:11:45.265 --> 00:11:50.885 Okay, Jerry, what do you got? I grabbed a Old Forrester, a 90-proof single barrel, 00:11:51.025 --> 00:11:55.365 the old black labels from a local Riverside Lakers, the old 90-proofers. 00:11:55.465 --> 00:11:58.065 These ones were fantastic when they were making them. 00:11:58.285 --> 00:12:02.525 So I still have this one, and I think that's the last one I have left. 00:12:03.365 --> 00:12:06.985 Let's be honest. Everything Old Forrester does. In fact, we should probably 00:12:06.985 --> 00:12:12.685 call this the Old Forrester and Malort podcast, given the way that it has gone recently. 00:12:13.905 --> 00:12:16.265 Oh, more to come on Malort. 00:12:19.385 --> 00:12:23.765 It might take a couple weeks, but you will be getting a package. 00:12:25.685 --> 00:12:30.085 This is what happens when you're not on, Adam. When you're out sick or doing 00:12:30.085 --> 00:12:33.265 your family stuff, me and Paul just drink and do stupid shit. 00:12:33.565 --> 00:12:38.285 I saw a person online making microwave mac and cheese, but instead of the water, they use Malort. 00:12:38.825 --> 00:12:41.285 So you are getting mac and cheese in the mail. 00:12:44.785 --> 00:12:49.685 I know if i sent you a little microwave mac and cheese and a shot of malort 00:12:49.685 --> 00:12:54.345 i know that at least adam would definitely not make it he would just refuse no i would make it. 00:12:55.845 --> 00:12:59.685 You're damn right right in the trash or i'd drink or i'd eat the mac and cheese 00:12:59.685 --> 00:13:07.105 by itself and then but how is it that i'm i'm the one on this show that's known for, 00:13:08.268 --> 00:13:12.668 You know, being a little out of control, not really giving a shit what I say and whatever. 00:13:12.888 --> 00:13:17.248 How am I the one? Keeping us straight? You guys in line. That you guys do this 00:13:17.248 --> 00:13:19.288 shit to me when I'm not around. What the fuck? 00:13:20.308 --> 00:13:23.148 Oh, I got a good one. I mean, it may be good. Who knows? I've never. 00:13:23.248 --> 00:13:26.308 It won't be good. It won't be good, Paul. I don't know what it is, but it won't be. 00:13:27.088 --> 00:13:30.488 If it's what I'm thinking, it's probably not. No, no, no, no. 00:13:30.588 --> 00:13:31.748 Let me ask you this, Paul. 00:13:31.908 --> 00:13:35.468 Did you chuckle when you had the idea? Did you chuckle? 00:13:35.868 --> 00:13:39.228 Oh, it wasn't even a chuckle. I was like very enthused. I was like, 00:13:39.328 --> 00:13:42.588 oh my God, I didn't know this exists. Yeah. Okay. So that's a problem. 00:13:43.428 --> 00:13:48.108 That's a problem for everybody. It's, well, it will be, it will be. 00:13:48.208 --> 00:13:53.708 So I went with tried, true and trusty early times, bottle and bond. 00:13:54.568 --> 00:13:58.668 This is one of the older bottles of early times that I have in the house. 00:13:58.688 --> 00:14:02.688 It's not a dusty or anything, but it is pre-sell to Buffalo trace. 00:14:04.088 --> 00:14:09.148 From what I think I was going to say talking about that the new ones that are 00:14:09.148 --> 00:14:11.528 coming in the the benchmark, 00:14:12.188 --> 00:14:20.988 bottles yeah I heard are terrible well I've I don't have I have the round bottle Buffalo Trace releases. 00:14:22.483 --> 00:14:26.403 They came with the cork as opposed to the screw top, and I don't notice a difference. 00:14:26.583 --> 00:14:30.623 Now, that may be because Buffalo Trace may have acquired some distillate that 00:14:30.623 --> 00:14:32.463 was already barrels. I think that's what happened. 00:14:32.903 --> 00:14:38.363 Originally, I think they got some barrels, and I think now it's their own, if I was to guess. 00:14:38.763 --> 00:14:41.463 And people are saying they're doing blinds, and they can tell the difference. 00:14:41.923 --> 00:14:46.223 Well, I'm going to have to get one because I've got so many bottles of these. 00:14:46.423 --> 00:14:51.163 When I heard they were going to sell, I went out and bought as many bottles as I get my hands on. 00:14:51.223 --> 00:14:55.683 I've got a bunch. so if you guys want some I'll send you a couple bottles but 00:14:55.683 --> 00:15:00.103 this shit's great I discovered this it's been some years ago but I discovered 00:15:00.103 --> 00:15:03.743 it because a friend of mine gave me a sample, 00:15:04.443 --> 00:15:08.923 and then I went to the store and this bottle actually led me to another bottle 00:15:08.923 --> 00:15:14.103 I went to a store and forgot what I had drank and accidentally picked up some 00:15:14.103 --> 00:15:15.383 Evan Williams bottle and bought, 00:15:15.983 --> 00:15:20.383 and then realized that I fucked up it was the wrong bottle but I was like holy 00:15:20.383 --> 00:15:21.743 shit this shit It was great, too. 00:15:21.983 --> 00:15:28.143 So two great whiskeys became known to me from a sample that one person gave me. 00:15:28.463 --> 00:15:33.903 And, I mean, I've got so many bottles in this house, it's hard for me to make 00:15:33.903 --> 00:15:34.823 a choice from time to time. 00:15:35.643 --> 00:15:40.363 But when I pick this one up, I can literally sit and kill the bottle. I'll be drunk as fuck. 00:15:40.863 --> 00:15:43.483 You know, I'm not saying that I'm some kind of drinking champion, 00:15:43.483 --> 00:15:46.103 but I could kill the whole fucking 00:15:46.103 --> 00:15:49.123 bottle and never want for anything else that I have in my collection. 00:15:49.143 --> 00:15:52.783 It's a great whiskey. It's a great, or it was a great whiskey. 00:15:52.883 --> 00:15:54.623 Hopefully Buffalo Trace isn't fucking it up. 00:15:54.743 --> 00:16:00.063 Hopefully people are just, you know, their biases are, they're letting the intrusive thoughts in. 00:16:00.463 --> 00:16:06.383 Right? So, I don't know. I'll have to find out for myself, but this is fantastic whiskey and I love it. 00:16:06.763 --> 00:16:09.723 Yep. I actually killed a bottle of that last night because I can't get it around here. 00:16:09.883 --> 00:16:14.503 So, I made a couple trips up to New York for work the last month and a half 00:16:14.503 --> 00:16:18.943 or so and did some, you know, store hopping, checking out some things on the 00:16:18.943 --> 00:16:19.803 shelves that I couldn't get. 00:16:19.803 --> 00:16:23.423 And that was one of them for like 20, 22 bucks, I think, a bottle. 00:16:23.543 --> 00:16:25.403 Yeah. Yeah. I think leader bottle too, isn't it? 00:16:26.552 --> 00:16:30.732 Yeah, I definitely came home with three bottles of that and a couple other things. 00:16:30.912 --> 00:16:35.852 But, yeah, no, I mean, I wish I could get it in Maryland, but there's no distribution. 00:16:35.852 --> 00:16:40.292 You would think with Buffalo Trace taking it over, I'd be able to find it more 00:16:40.292 --> 00:16:42.452 readily available. But no such luck. 00:16:42.672 --> 00:16:47.212 You probably will with time because now it's their distillate that they're putting 00:16:47.212 --> 00:16:51.832 into the bottles, you know, and they've got such a capacity at this point that, 00:16:52.072 --> 00:16:56.412 and I mean, you know, the bubble is leaking. 00:16:57.012 --> 00:16:59.912 If you can't say it's fully burst at this point you can at least say that it's 00:16:59.912 --> 00:17:04.332 leaking well yeah i was in total wine earlier this week just because i happened 00:17:04.332 --> 00:17:09.892 to drive by it and i hadn't been in there in a while and on the shelf e.h taylor 00:17:09.892 --> 00:17:13.572 small batch eagle rare buffalo trace, 00:17:14.392 --> 00:17:17.672 trying to think i think that might have been it but that shit i don't see on 00:17:17.672 --> 00:17:21.632 the shelves ever and right like one of their drops or whatever it was just on 00:17:21.632 --> 00:17:25.732 the shelf and it was like that here And I want to say E.H. 00:17:25.792 --> 00:17:27.972 Taylor Rye hit a couple spots around Florida, too. 00:17:28.812 --> 00:17:32.312 Well, it's funny because the first sign, at least that I noticed, 00:17:32.412 --> 00:17:36.712 and I think a lot of people, this was their first sign, was Henry McKenna started 00:17:36.712 --> 00:17:38.312 being back on the shelves. 00:17:38.532 --> 00:17:41.912 And I walked into a store the other day, on my way home, I walked into a Kroger, 00:17:42.112 --> 00:17:44.412 and they had a full shelf. 00:17:45.072 --> 00:17:49.492 Straight line, front to back, not one bottle was missing out of that case. 00:17:49.492 --> 00:17:53.012 It was, and I was just like, okay, now things are starting to, 00:17:53.132 --> 00:17:55.792 you know, the world is starting to correct itself, right? 00:17:55.992 --> 00:17:58.532 Or at least the whiskey world. So that's great. 00:17:58.752 --> 00:18:03.672 You know, I'm all for, I have mixed feelings, I guess I should say about the secondary market. 00:18:03.812 --> 00:18:09.272 I'm all, I'm all for free market and the ability to do with your property what you will. 00:18:09.852 --> 00:18:14.592 At the same time, you know, if you want to be a seller on the secondary market, 00:18:14.792 --> 00:18:19.592 fine. If that's your main source of income, well, you're a fuck up. 00:18:19.852 --> 00:18:21.072 You need to do something better with your life. 00:18:23.609 --> 00:18:28.209 To, you know, for quit buying up all the shit and leave some for the rest of 00:18:28.209 --> 00:18:30.789 us so we can get it at a decent price. 00:18:30.929 --> 00:18:35.289 It's ridiculous. It's this, these inflated prices, whether it's the distillery 00:18:35.289 --> 00:18:39.469 or the secondary market that's causing it, the artificially inflated prices 00:18:39.469 --> 00:18:40.409 are absolutely ridiculous. 00:18:41.129 --> 00:18:47.909 We've got to do, I mean, the 120, $110 bottles of Henry McKenna, not going to do it for me. 00:18:48.149 --> 00:18:57.089 I could swing 54. It was what? 40, 45. It was $40 before everything went crazy with Mr. 00:18:57.209 --> 00:19:01.689 Minnick, but I think $39.99 is one of the first couple bottles I ever bought 00:19:01.689 --> 00:19:03.409 of it, but then it went crazy. 00:19:03.909 --> 00:19:07.869 Cheapest I've seen it around here is $65, which has significantly come down, 00:19:08.049 --> 00:19:12.569 but like you said, it's almost in every store, on every shelf at all times now at $65. 00:19:13.309 --> 00:19:17.289 Right. So, yeah. And we'll start seeing the prices come down, too. 00:19:17.509 --> 00:19:20.949 The longer it sits there, those prices will come down. They'll go on sale like 00:19:20.949 --> 00:19:22.709 Jerry saw there at one of his locals. 00:19:23.369 --> 00:19:27.609 Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's a buy at $65. It's fantastic. Sure. 00:19:28.029 --> 00:19:30.829 But I'd love to see it in the $50 range. 00:19:31.469 --> 00:19:36.509 Yeah, it's $54.99 is what I saw it for on that particular shelf. 00:19:37.129 --> 00:19:44.129 Now, that store is known for doing some pretty big—I mean, it's crazy. Right. 00:19:44.249 --> 00:19:48.889 Kroger started up in Cincinnati, which is just a couple hours away from where I am. 00:19:49.009 --> 00:19:54.989 But the crazy thing is, if I sit and count, I can count at least eight Kroger 00:19:54.989 --> 00:19:57.929 stores within a five mile radius of my house. 00:19:59.195 --> 00:20:02.735 We're saturated with Kroger's. They're everywhere. But this one particular Kroger, 00:20:02.895 --> 00:20:04.975 it's not technically in Lexington. 00:20:05.655 --> 00:20:11.915 It's really close. They're known for doing some pretty big drops for allocated stuff. 00:20:12.015 --> 00:20:17.155 And it's at, you know, a price that you would expect. It's not secondary. 00:20:17.375 --> 00:20:19.095 It's not museum prices, anything like that. 00:20:19.355 --> 00:20:24.115 So the fact that you can walk into that store where they do these massive allocated 00:20:24.115 --> 00:20:26.055 drops where people line up. 00:20:26.615 --> 00:20:31.895 And there's a group dedicated to that specific Kroger liquor store on Facebook, 00:20:32.475 --> 00:20:33.915 and the drops that they do, 00:20:34.635 --> 00:20:37.455 so people are that in tune and they still have all 00:20:37.455 --> 00:20:40.215 these bottles of Henry McKenna sitting on the shelf that right there tells 00:20:40.215 --> 00:20:43.075 you something because it used to be those same people 00:20:43.075 --> 00:20:45.855 that were waiting in line would step out of line to 00:20:45.855 --> 00:20:48.595 get that Henry McKenna and avoid whatever was 00:20:48.595 --> 00:20:51.675 on the shelf just so they didn't have to fight but then again 00:20:51.675 --> 00:20:54.455 back at that time those Henry McKenna bottles were on 00:20:54.455 --> 00:20:57.415 that shelf that are on that countertop with the rest of the allocated as well 00:20:57.415 --> 00:21:00.735 so it's good it's good to see the correction 00:21:00.735 --> 00:21:03.575 it's good to see things coming back around it'll be 00:21:03.575 --> 00:21:08.995 good whenever i can you know drink i don't know i was gonna say elijah craig 00:21:08.995 --> 00:21:14.235 foolproof but no those are on the shelf all over the place if i drink this owa 00:21:14.235 --> 00:21:17.255 behind me and walk into a store and pick one up because it's just hanging out 00:21:17.255 --> 00:21:22.275 on the shelf that'd be fantastic that'd be great you know at a reasonable price. 00:21:23.035 --> 00:21:27.695 Because I see it on a lot of shelves and it's usually one bottle at a stupid 00:21:27.695 --> 00:21:30.855 price when I know they probably got three cases in the back and it's more than 00:21:30.855 --> 00:21:32.515 that one bottle at a museum price. 00:21:33.535 --> 00:21:36.015 Yeah, I've told you guys this story before, but. 00:21:37.103 --> 00:21:40.383 There was a liquor store I used to go to and I bought their Weller Foolproof, 00:21:40.403 --> 00:21:43.243 the store pick at like 90 bucks. 00:21:43.923 --> 00:21:47.063 And then he did another pick and then sold the store before the pick came in. 00:21:47.163 --> 00:21:51.323 And the new owner jacked the price up to $2.99 on the next bottle. 00:21:51.323 --> 00:21:53.163 And I laughed in his face and walked out. 00:21:53.363 --> 00:21:56.063 You know, it's that kind of situation. I don't want to deal with that shit. 00:21:56.183 --> 00:21:57.323 Nobody wants to deal with that shit. 00:21:57.803 --> 00:22:02.223 Jerry and I went into a liquor store in Louisville and noticed it was an ETL. 00:22:02.403 --> 00:22:05.503 And I think it was a Weller single barrel and some other things behind the counter. 00:22:05.503 --> 00:22:09.303 And saw all the prices, and we just kind of looked at each other and chuckled 00:22:09.303 --> 00:22:13.043 and walked our asses right the fuck out of the store, left everything there, 00:22:13.263 --> 00:22:14.463 you know, didn't buy a goddamn thing. 00:22:16.223 --> 00:22:21.263 So I am glad to see that happen. And just as a whiskey drinker and a collector, 00:22:21.523 --> 00:22:24.243 I like being able to go find what I want when I want it. 00:22:24.783 --> 00:22:30.203 The flip side of that is that it has forced people like us to find alternatives 00:22:30.203 --> 00:22:33.043 that we like just as much or better for cheaper prices. 00:22:34.511 --> 00:22:38.851 So leading back to this early times bottle and bond, this is one of them. 00:22:38.971 --> 00:22:42.491 Now it's a little different because they sold and maybe the recipes changed. 00:22:42.631 --> 00:22:45.811 Maybe it is totally different. We'll find out soon because I'm going to get some of that. 00:22:46.131 --> 00:22:48.751 I'm going to send you guys some of these bottles and some samples from that 00:22:48.751 --> 00:22:50.591 bottle and we'll test it out and see what's what. 00:22:50.711 --> 00:22:54.851 But this is fantastic. And I don't care what anybody says. 00:22:55.571 --> 00:23:00.211 I just wish they hadn't sold it. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. Who was it? 00:23:00.291 --> 00:23:03.151 It was National Distillers owned it and then Jim Beam bought it, right? 00:23:03.731 --> 00:23:06.971 They owned it whenever they didn't sell it after they bought National Distillers 00:23:06.971 --> 00:23:13.031 did they until they sold it to Buffalo Trace no right no Heaven Hill owned it right, 00:23:14.091 --> 00:23:20.611 I don't I'm almost positive it was the Heaven Hill brand that sold to Buffalo Trace let me look. 00:23:22.371 --> 00:23:26.491 Because I can't remember I thought it was oh it was Brown Foreman good god we're 00:23:26.491 --> 00:23:33.731 both wrong I thought it was Brown Foreman yeah it was Brown Foreman of course it was I knew that. 00:23:33.891 --> 00:23:36.651 I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. But anyway, yeah, 00:23:36.771 --> 00:23:39.871 this has the citrusy and leather. 00:23:40.151 --> 00:23:46.391 And I mean, it's nothing special. It's just, you know, it's what you think of 00:23:46.391 --> 00:23:47.091 when you think of bourbon. 00:23:47.211 --> 00:23:50.651 It's one of those types of whiskeys. So I really appreciate it. 00:23:52.431 --> 00:24:00.611 All right. So now we did not determine an order for the whiskeys of this week. 00:24:00.851 --> 00:24:02.311 So we're doing a side-by-side. 00:24:03.211 --> 00:24:07.031 Jerry sent out samples of one, I sent out samples of the other, 00:24:07.211 --> 00:24:09.471 and then I have a third here just for funsies. 00:24:10.751 --> 00:24:19.391 So I think what we'll do is let's start with, because you guys haven't, 00:24:19.531 --> 00:24:21.971 have you guys had the one that I sent out? 00:24:22.531 --> 00:24:26.291 Okay. I've not had neither, either one of them. I have a bottle of both, 00:24:26.331 --> 00:24:29.971 and then I have the third bottle that I just talked about. 00:24:31.351 --> 00:24:38.851 The one that I sent, it's very faint as far as the flavor on the palate. 00:24:39.751 --> 00:24:45.011 So let's start with that because the one that Jerry sent, it has a lot more flavor. 00:24:45.311 --> 00:24:50.791 And that way we're not wrecking our palate before we try the milder one. 00:24:51.011 --> 00:24:54.891 So what we're talking about here is the Old Forrester 117 series. 00:24:55.611 --> 00:25:01.031 The stink look different. Yeah. Yeah. So I sent out the Scotch cast finished. 00:25:01.531 --> 00:25:05.711 And if Paul will hold those two back up there, please, it's easier to see. 00:25:06.391 --> 00:25:08.711 Scotch is so much darker and red. 00:25:09.931 --> 00:25:14.931 And this one barely looks like whiskey. The rum one, it's very light color. 00:25:15.171 --> 00:25:18.591 Now, see, when I hold the bottles up here. 00:25:19.111 --> 00:25:24.671 Oh, yeah. No, no. So a minute ago, the rum looked a whole lot. No, see, there we go. 00:25:25.311 --> 00:25:28.291 There's the scotch. And the rum is here. 00:25:28.571 --> 00:25:32.011 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Never mind. I'm stupid. But, yeah, I forgot my camera's backwards. 00:25:32.171 --> 00:25:36.451 So I didn't notice that. Earlier, I thought the scotch looked lighter compared to the rum. 00:25:36.851 --> 00:25:40.631 But I was wrong. However, we should start scotch. Let's do it. 00:25:40.971 --> 00:25:43.891 Because it's a little easier on the palate. 00:25:45.854 --> 00:25:48.934 This bottle comes in at oh let 00:25:48.934 --> 00:25:52.594 me see something i think this is going to be true for all okay 00:25:52.594 --> 00:25:55.514 no it's not okay so this is batch 00:25:55.514 --> 00:26:04.094 number one it was released released in december of 2023 it's got their dsp number 00:26:04.094 --> 00:26:11.574 on here the bottle 93 proof so it's 46 and a half cent alcohol Kentucky straight 00:26:11.574 --> 00:26:13.414 bourbon whiskey finished in scotch barrels. 00:26:14.054 --> 00:26:18.114 A little story on the label here. George Garvin Brown was proud of his Scottish heritage. 00:26:18.394 --> 00:26:22.194 To celebrate these Gaelic roots, this small batch has been uniquely finished 00:26:22.194 --> 00:26:23.434 in scotch whiskey casks. 00:26:23.974 --> 00:26:29.514 The Speyside source cherries and wine maturation and finishing cask highlight 00:26:29.514 --> 00:26:34.394 Old Forester's natural fruit character that is a result of fermentation with 00:26:34.394 --> 00:26:37.054 the oldest yeast strain in the industry. 00:26:38.274 --> 00:26:42.974 So that's kind of cool. the oldest yeast strain in the industry. 00:26:43.274 --> 00:26:50.914 And for those who may not be aware, the yeast plays a huge part. 00:26:51.034 --> 00:26:55.874 Other than fermentation, it plays a huge part in flavor. 00:26:56.054 --> 00:27:00.874 And if you don't believe me, I highly encourage you to try all the offerings 00:27:00.874 --> 00:27:05.994 that Four Roses has and see if you don't taste the difference. 00:27:06.314 --> 00:27:09.574 There's, you know, flavoring comes from the grains. It also comes from the yeast. 00:27:09.574 --> 00:27:11.434 It also comes from the barrel. 00:27:11.534 --> 00:27:15.614 So there's a lot going on in a whiskey to begin with, but that's pretty cool. 00:27:15.834 --> 00:27:18.794 So on the nose, I get some dark fruit. 00:27:19.554 --> 00:27:26.774 Bang boom. I mean, that is plum and red apple in a juice. 00:27:26.974 --> 00:27:29.594 That's what I get. Red apple for sure. 00:27:31.154 --> 00:27:38.274 Like it's, I get, I get plum juice and I get red apple skin on the nose. Yeah. 00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:42.650 Definitely get some of those malty characteristics 00:27:42.650 --> 00:27:45.670 from the scotch get that caramel 00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:48.750 and a little bit of the oak and i 00:27:48.750 --> 00:27:52.430 would expect there to be more oak since this was double finished but or 00:27:52.430 --> 00:27:55.830 that that fruit note really 00:27:55.830 --> 00:28:01.670 just it's that's pretty much all it is what about you guys yeah big time red 00:28:01.670 --> 00:28:07.190 fruit there's definitely oak leather there's a bready maybe that's where you're 00:28:07.190 --> 00:28:12.450 getting the malty getting like more of a like a fresh baked like like a dark bread like you. 00:28:13.896 --> 00:28:16.816 Even like a carrot cake or banana bread something like that 00:28:16.816 --> 00:28:19.956 has some kind of sweetness to it see i 00:28:19.956 --> 00:28:23.316 was thinking like those apple fritters yeah okay 00:28:23.316 --> 00:28:26.836 yeah yeah same it's like a sweet bready 00:28:26.836 --> 00:28:30.376 like almost pink street though yeah for me 00:28:30.376 --> 00:28:34.436 it's definitely the the red fruit but apple is it's like straight that's the 00:28:34.436 --> 00:28:37.856 first thing that hit me and that's what's sticking with me but yeah there's 00:28:37.856 --> 00:28:42.316 like a sweetness with with it and the more i started thinking about the more 00:28:42.316 --> 00:28:47.696 you I started talking those little apple fritters you get from the donut shops 00:28:47.696 --> 00:28:49.376 or whatever. That's what's coming out. 00:28:49.936 --> 00:28:54.696 And then the typical bourbon notes, the oak, the caramels, vanillas, 00:28:54.836 --> 00:28:55.976 all that, that's in the background. 00:28:56.196 --> 00:28:59.976 But straight up front is just a nice, fresh apple. 00:29:00.296 --> 00:29:06.516 And what's interesting is if you hit your cigar, okay, now you guys are the 00:29:06.516 --> 00:29:10.036 same as me. It gets all in your beard. It hangs on there for a while. 00:29:10.216 --> 00:29:14.456 It gets up in your nose. and then knows that again it gets a whole lot more 00:29:14.456 --> 00:29:18.116 floral or did for me like it was a blast of, 00:29:18.796 --> 00:29:24.236 i do get a i get less of the fruit i don't know that i get more like a floral 00:29:24.236 --> 00:29:29.196 note but the fruit goes more away and and it's just i'm kind of more left with 00:29:29.196 --> 00:29:30.876 like the oak and the paste. 00:29:31.616 --> 00:29:36.456 Yeah i get floral notes in there i don't know what the rye content of this is 00:29:36.456 --> 00:29:40.176 i was gonna ask Is this the 72-18-10 standard Old Forester? 00:29:40.536 --> 00:29:43.756 Yeah, it is. They just finish it in rum casks after the fact. 00:29:43.856 --> 00:29:47.596 I just don't have it pulled up in front of me. So, yeah, 72-18-10. 00:29:48.516 --> 00:29:54.316 Yeah, the fruity notes disappear, but the sweet notes stick around for me. Yeah. 00:29:55.176 --> 00:29:57.716 All right. Let's try it out, fellas. 00:30:01.482 --> 00:30:07.402 There are a few things wrong with a old Forester that, you know, has a new take done on it. 00:30:07.522 --> 00:30:15.082 So I've got to, I've got to really hand it to, hell, I can't remember her name. 00:30:15.182 --> 00:30:17.802 What was, what was her name that started the 117 series? 00:30:18.282 --> 00:30:22.142 I can see her in my head. Hell, I got to interview her. I can't remember. 00:30:24.924 --> 00:30:28.324 Yeah jackie's i can because again it's it's 00:30:28.324 --> 00:30:31.424 well known for anybody that listens to the show i'm big old forester fan 00:30:31.424 --> 00:30:34.524 they're probably my second favorite distillery behind wild 00:30:34.524 --> 00:30:37.484 turkey but they can really do no wrong 00:30:37.484 --> 00:30:40.804 and anytime you finish it and something new 00:30:40.804 --> 00:30:44.544 make it make it different whatever i guess there's a way you can fuck that up 00:30:44.544 --> 00:30:49.604 this ain't it though how do you guys feel about this weird for me yeah there's 00:30:49.604 --> 00:30:55.064 a lot going on i'm definitely i almost i'm gonna I saved a little bit of this 00:30:55.064 --> 00:30:58.304 because I'm getting like tobacco notes from this, 00:30:58.444 --> 00:31:01.184 but I'm smoking a cigar. So it's hard to tell if I would get that. 00:31:01.624 --> 00:31:04.604 You're getting tobacco notes from the whiskey. Yeah, definitely getting that. 00:31:04.704 --> 00:31:06.644 And there's a, there's a peppery spices. 00:31:07.084 --> 00:31:11.344 There's no fruit there at all. It's almost like a, the fruit is now like a raisin 00:31:11.344 --> 00:31:14.904 or a dried fruit. It's, it's not bright. 00:31:15.384 --> 00:31:19.544 Like, like I got on the nose, but that's in the, in the way background it's 00:31:19.544 --> 00:31:24.004 oak tobacco, leather pepper for vain. 00:31:24.104 --> 00:31:30.624 And I get a hint of like, maybe like a, like a, I don't, it's definitely, 00:31:30.784 --> 00:31:35.464 it's not raisin, but it's some kind of like dried fruit that's not overly sweet. 00:31:36.624 --> 00:31:39.564 Yeah, it's a lot of spice forward. 00:31:40.304 --> 00:31:44.024 And then for me, it's like, it's that apple still there. 00:31:44.144 --> 00:31:48.344 It's like a dried apple, but it's like someone's eating an apple next to you. 00:31:48.504 --> 00:31:51.124 Like there's a little bit of like that fresh apple in there, 00:31:51.204 --> 00:31:53.684 but it's not like, it's just like someone. 00:31:54.104 --> 00:31:59.104 Ate it and then blew up your face. Yeah, burped in your face. 00:31:59.664 --> 00:32:01.984 But yeah, there's that dried apple. 00:32:03.504 --> 00:32:10.344 It's definitely drying on the finish. Oh, yeah. I was surprised by the spice with it, though. 00:32:12.159 --> 00:32:15.979 Not expecting that especially with how sweet the nose does smell yeah there's 00:32:15.979 --> 00:32:19.519 a lot of spice i'm definitely getting like peppercorn 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:25.119 peppery spice you know you get a little bit of that rye spice in there yeah 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.399 it starts out with like that black pepper and then the little rye spice with 00:32:30.399 --> 00:32:35.379 a little bit of floral note come through and then that's when the dried apple 00:32:35.379 --> 00:32:38.219 apple notes come through as it's finishing off dry, 00:32:38.399 --> 00:32:40.959 like, as it dries out your palate. 00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:46.139 Yeah, it's very drying. It's tannic. There's a lot of leather for me. 00:32:47.339 --> 00:32:50.379 But, yeah, it's good. I like it a lot. 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:55.799 It does call me off guard because it does not match the palate at all. Nope. 00:32:56.459 --> 00:33:02.119 At all. Which, it's weird how drying and tannic it is, especially, you got a thing. 00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.579 Those scotch barrels were used for 00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:08.359 however long in a most likely a 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:11.419 bourbon barrel and then most scotches are 00:33:11.419 --> 00:33:18.019 aged for at least 12 years so you're looking at probably 12 uh what 14 years 00:33:18.019 --> 00:33:27.139 at the earliest yeah probably closer to 16 17 so i would if it if it's if they 00:33:27.139 --> 00:33:29.079 got the barrels from old Forrester in the first place, 00:33:29.199 --> 00:33:32.079 it's almost definitely older than that. Oh, yeah. 00:33:32.959 --> 00:33:36.819 Just thinking, at least 15 years those barrels are. 00:33:37.019 --> 00:33:41.259 I wasn't expecting that much. I was expecting more of a scotch influence than 00:33:41.259 --> 00:33:43.599 a barrel influence. Yeah. 00:33:45.333 --> 00:33:49.453 And I definitely wasn't, the tobacco note caught me way off guard. 00:33:49.573 --> 00:33:53.113 I did not get that on the nose at all. And yeah, I thought it was just because 00:33:53.113 --> 00:33:56.993 I was smoking a cigar, but I kind of, I went three or four sips in a row without 00:33:56.993 --> 00:33:59.273 going to the cigar and it, yeah, it's still there. 00:33:59.413 --> 00:34:02.453 That's one of the predominant notes on the palate is. 00:34:03.713 --> 00:34:06.733 Yeah. You're going to get that even after you are done with the cigar, 00:34:06.973 --> 00:34:08.833 whenever you drink it again. 00:34:09.133 --> 00:34:14.153 And I just say that because by the time you said that I didn't have any more 00:34:14.153 --> 00:34:18.873 cigar influence in my mouth at least any more than you know i normally would 00:34:18.873 --> 00:34:23.613 have any kind of tobacco influence in my mouth and that being said it's it's 00:34:23.613 --> 00:34:26.633 definitely present and i like it i like it a lot, 00:34:27.133 --> 00:34:29.933 all right so jerry tell us about this one 00:34:29.933 --> 00:34:32.813 that you sent out to us real quick what's the price point 00:34:32.813 --> 00:34:36.413 on this one did you say that uh it was 00:34:36.413 --> 00:34:39.313 i bought a pair i 00:34:39.313 --> 00:34:42.093 bought the pair online so i had i was trying to remember where i 00:34:42.093 --> 00:34:45.173 bought it i bought the pair of online i want to say it 00:34:45.173 --> 00:34:49.313 was like 150 bucks for 00:34:49.313 --> 00:34:55.313 two of them i was gonna say i think srp is right around like 70 75 i think yeah 00:34:55.313 --> 00:34:59.713 well depending on which ones i think i've seen them anywhere from like 70 to 00:34:59.713 --> 00:35:04.933 90 bucks depending on which one 17 so yeah now the third one that i brought 00:35:04.933 --> 00:35:08.893 down here with me i got that one a total wine for 40 bucks. 00:35:10.433 --> 00:35:14.433 So that is definitely not MSRP. No, they were on clearance. 00:35:14.573 --> 00:35:16.993 They were getting rid of it. They were trying to get them off the shelf so they 00:35:16.993 --> 00:35:22.833 can make room for the next release because they only stock them like maybe one or two deep. 00:35:23.813 --> 00:35:26.093 So they got to have room for the next release. But anyway. 00:35:27.680 --> 00:35:33.000 Tell us about this one, Jerry. Yeah, this is the 117 rum finish. 00:35:33.520 --> 00:35:38.140 Basically, same mash bill and everything finished in rum barrels. 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.680 95 proof batch one, released July 2024. 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.540 I thought I had it up. There we go. 00:35:47.900 --> 00:35:53.360 This one took empty rum barrels that held rum for a minimum of four years and 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.860 then finish the bourbon in these rum casts for approximately six months. 00:35:58.300 --> 00:36:03.060 And I saw something. I don't know how true it is, but I did see someone say 00:36:03.060 --> 00:36:07.520 this was Diplomatico rum barrels. Okay. 00:36:08.520 --> 00:36:10.960 Again, I don't know how true that is. It's just something I saw. 00:36:11.120 --> 00:36:16.140 It's the only thing I saw what barrel it was without actually trying to dive 00:36:16.140 --> 00:36:22.000 deep on which company Brown Foreman owns and going that route. 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.740 But yeah so so 95 00:36:25.740 --> 00:36:28.720 you said adam the one you sent was 93 so both yeah 00:36:28.720 --> 00:36:31.520 pretty much the same point yeah they they stick in 00:36:31.520 --> 00:36:34.360 the in the same area the other one that i've got down here 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.300 is a 93 proof too and i just i 00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:42.240 just realized that i told you guys wrong the scotch one i got that one from 00:36:42.240 --> 00:36:48.340 total wine for 40 bucks the one that this this rum finish jerry got his bottle 00:36:48.340 --> 00:36:56.100 for me in secret Santa and I bought these as a pair for 150 on the website. 00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:02.200 So just to kind of correct myself there, but, uh, yeah, uh, go ahead, Jerry. 00:37:04.391 --> 00:37:09.251 I said everything, 95 proof, breaking bourbon, saying 60 bucks is SRP. 00:37:09.471 --> 00:37:12.411 And these are 375s too, by the way. They are. 00:37:12.751 --> 00:37:16.311 July 2024, and then 72, 18, 10. 00:37:16.551 --> 00:37:21.091 So yeah, the 150 would have been after shipping and taxes, just to kind of throw 00:37:21.091 --> 00:37:22.311 that out there for anybody that cares. 00:37:22.491 --> 00:37:25.731 But that's got that rum funk. 00:37:26.071 --> 00:37:28.531 Yeah. I find it in there pretty easily. 00:37:28.991 --> 00:37:30.831 That smells like rum cake. 00:37:31.531 --> 00:37:33.811 Yep. It's like a butter. Yeah. 00:37:34.531 --> 00:37:37.951 I can't see anything in my left nostril. I'm over here closing my right one. 00:37:38.471 --> 00:37:41.491 It's like rum cake with melted butter right out of the microwave. 00:37:42.351 --> 00:37:44.651 Yeah, I could definitely see that. 00:37:46.071 --> 00:37:49.431 There's this savory butter note I keep picking up on my nose. 00:37:50.031 --> 00:37:54.691 Like melted butter. But you can definitely get the funk of the rum. 00:37:56.411 --> 00:38:02.191 And if you let it settle without swirling, after you've swirled it, 00:38:02.211 --> 00:38:08.411 let it settle, and it gets a little bit more fruity coming out of there too. 00:38:08.731 --> 00:38:10.331 You can kind of kind of like. 00:38:12.664 --> 00:38:16.584 It would be kind of like a fermenting strawberry. If you've ever smelled a fermenting 00:38:16.584 --> 00:38:21.024 strawberry or a fermenting berry animal, 00:38:22.004 --> 00:38:26.364 then as soon as you swirl it, man, it just punches you in the nose. 00:38:26.444 --> 00:38:28.064 There's a lot going on in the nose. 00:38:28.324 --> 00:38:31.964 Yeah, if you get deep in there, you start getting some of those tropical fruit notes. 00:38:33.544 --> 00:38:37.424 All right. On the palate, here we go. 00:38:38.824 --> 00:38:42.464 I mean, it's really hard to find the whiskey in there. 00:38:42.664 --> 00:38:45.624 Mm-hmm that's there's so 00:38:45.624 --> 00:38:50.004 many rum heavy notes rushing 00:38:50.004 --> 00:38:56.524 at me it's hard for me to find the bourbon in that has like a syrupy texture 00:38:56.524 --> 00:39:02.624 compared to those very thick or feel or it seems thick anyway for whiskey viscosity 00:39:02.624 --> 00:39:09.204 or whatever yeah that's the right word it's it's definitely not drying like the scotch cask is. No. 00:39:09.884 --> 00:39:15.364 It's like having trouble talking because my mouth is just salivating and just producing all that... 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.680 It's at very, there's a very heavy rum sweetness. Yeah. 00:39:22.460 --> 00:39:26.560 I mean, like molasses right up front. Yeah. Yeah. 00:39:26.980 --> 00:39:32.780 And it is, I mean, I guess, I guess Brown Foreman's recipe does kind of lend 00:39:32.780 --> 00:39:39.080 itself to that syrupy molasses sweetness, which it's working very well with these two together. 00:39:39.220 --> 00:39:42.720 But I'm like I said, I'm, I'm having a hard time finding the bourbon in there. 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:49.700 So for me, it's delicious. This, don't get me wrong, but this is a rum drinker's 00:39:49.700 --> 00:39:53.800 bourbon, not a bourbon drinker's bourbon that's looking for something. 00:39:53.900 --> 00:39:55.680 Well, I won't say that, but it's 00:39:55.680 --> 00:39:59.680 a rum drinker's bourbon. I think it's the best way to really put that. 00:40:00.020 --> 00:40:04.020 That would be a good gateway from rum to bourbon, I think. 00:40:04.560 --> 00:40:06.680 Paul, what do you think? I'm confused. 00:40:11.460 --> 00:40:16.860 I'm getting weird notes. I mean, I've picked up, so the first sip was really 00:40:16.860 --> 00:40:18.840 oaky, which kind of threw me off. 00:40:19.660 --> 00:40:24.280 But as I keep on sipping, I mean, I'm getting, I got lemon, peanuts, 00:40:25.120 --> 00:40:26.440 nutmeg, cinnamon. I got lemon. 00:40:27.220 --> 00:40:30.880 Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's all over the place. Every time I take a sip, I get something else. 00:40:31.040 --> 00:40:35.160 I mean, I was, I got, it was predominantly oak at first for whatever reason, 00:40:35.560 --> 00:40:38.760 just off the quick sip. But the second sip, I started getting, 00:40:39.060 --> 00:40:43.760 like, I got a peanut finish almost, which was weird. 00:40:43.940 --> 00:40:49.180 And then the third sip, I get, like, bright lemon right on the first, like, right on the top. 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.400 And, like, it's all over. Every time I take a sip, I'm getting something different. 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:58.540 Yeah, I got the lemon. Like I said, for me, it was, like, brown sugar and molasses at first. 00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:01.580 That oak influences there. And then some lemon. 00:41:02.180 --> 00:41:04.820 And then towards the finish, I start getting a little bit of that. 00:41:05.260 --> 00:41:08.960 Not much. It's like very faint, but the, the, like the tropical fruits. 00:41:10.630 --> 00:41:13.690 Convincing myself that i'm not tasting banana but 00:41:13.690 --> 00:41:17.870 i think i am yeah 00:41:17.870 --> 00:41:20.750 no it's it's it's great it's it's really good 00:41:20.750 --> 00:41:26.170 it's just it's very complex like i've i could sit and drink this probably two 00:41:26.170 --> 00:41:30.650 or three fours of it and continue to get different notes it feels like you said 00:41:30.650 --> 00:41:35.450 banana i just took a sip i was getting those banana runs yeah yeah it's it's 00:41:35.450 --> 00:41:40.550 that it's that you know it's that brown form in banana, which is not actual banana. 00:41:40.990 --> 00:41:43.990 It's, yeah, banana runts is pretty fun. It's that jam. 00:41:44.450 --> 00:41:47.810 Yeah, it's that Laffy Taffy banana or the runts banana. 00:41:48.670 --> 00:41:53.430 I didn't get that, and I don't like runts, and I don't like banana runts, 00:41:53.450 --> 00:41:55.990 and I don't like banana laffy taffy, but I do. 00:41:56.330 --> 00:42:00.950 I love runts, I love laffy taffy, and I love the banana ones. Well, you do. 00:42:02.370 --> 00:42:05.710 I'll buy the bag of just banana runts. 00:42:05.810 --> 00:42:09.230 Well, I was just going to say, they can give you their endorsement money 00:42:09.230 --> 00:42:17.510 but i do i do like jack daniels banana notes and so jack daniels if you guys 00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:21.150 want to sponsor us or brown form and if you guys want us we've had your products 00:42:21.150 --> 00:42:28.590 on today so a lot of them well you know what it's from they they throw a handful of runts in every barrel, 00:42:29.190 --> 00:42:36.290 well that's fine i don't have to eat them that's the spoiler alert secrets out 00:42:36.290 --> 00:42:41.610 jack daniels the number one purchaser of banana runts in the country the only 00:42:41.610 --> 00:42:42.710 reason why they stick around, 00:42:43.910 --> 00:42:46.830 now i get it i see the actually for me. 00:42:48.269 --> 00:42:53.429 Artificial banana that tasted like banana pudding that's what i got there and 00:42:53.429 --> 00:42:57.729 i not just the bananas i got the banana you know the bananas with the banana 00:42:57.729 --> 00:43:02.269 cream and the whipped cream and the. 00:43:03.269 --> 00:43:11.029 Vanilla wafers all of it right as i right as i drank it which i find highly enjoyable, 00:43:11.649 --> 00:43:15.729 because banana pudding is one of my favorite desserts of all time it's one of 00:43:15.729 --> 00:43:20.029 the best ones out there oh it absolutely is and if anybody says otherwise you're 00:43:20.029 --> 00:43:24.629 wrong just know that you're wrong go back to bed start your day over you'll 00:43:24.629 --> 00:43:26.509 still be wrong but at least you'll be arrested, 00:43:27.449 --> 00:43:30.449 that's that is very complex like paul 00:43:30.449 --> 00:43:34.069 said it is very fantastic i don't 00:43:34.069 --> 00:43:37.149 get into it very often these 375s that's 00:43:37.149 --> 00:43:40.149 the problem with them well especially with these right 00:43:40.149 --> 00:43:43.489 they're they're limited runs they're a 00:43:43.489 --> 00:43:46.729 smaller amount than a 750 something you 00:43:46.729 --> 00:43:50.529 can't get just whenever the fuck you want to and so 00:43:50.529 --> 00:43:56.049 i have to i have to just not look at them pretend like they're not there because 00:43:56.049 --> 00:44:00.469 i might drink them too fast and then i'm done it's over i get no more so i know 00:44:00.469 --> 00:44:04.729 i know we're all smoking different cigars but yeah going from my cigar to this 00:44:04.729 --> 00:44:09.389 rum cask it is fantastic yeah with But this cigar, 00:44:09.649 --> 00:44:14.249 I've been a fan of this cigar since I smoked the shit out of these during COVID. 00:44:14.609 --> 00:44:19.949 I get a lot of like nutty, chocolatey. I get a little bit of like that salty 00:44:19.949 --> 00:44:24.389 salinity, which for some reason I love when I find them in that note in cigars. 00:44:24.489 --> 00:44:25.989 I don't find it often. I get it with this one. 00:44:27.906 --> 00:44:32.906 With that chocolatey nutty note with the molasses rum notes that I'm getting 00:44:32.906 --> 00:44:34.226 on that, it's going fantastic. 00:44:34.686 --> 00:44:41.306 It went well with the scotch too, but the cigars kind of tend to dry out my mouth. 00:44:41.446 --> 00:44:48.626 And then with the scotch even more, so it went well. It's just my mouth was real dry after that one. 00:44:48.726 --> 00:44:52.126 This one just keeps going. Well, tell us what you're smoking. 00:44:52.726 --> 00:44:56.106 I am smoking the warfighter tobacco. 00:44:56.106 --> 00:45:06.026 This is the 50 the 50 cal garrison there let me actually get the yeah the garrison escurdo maduro. 00:45:07.966 --> 00:45:10.826 It's the old label like i said i've had show that 00:45:10.826 --> 00:45:13.686 wrapper you still have that wrapper paul look 00:45:13.686 --> 00:45:16.806 at this wrapper yeah it's been aging for a little bit oh 00:45:16.806 --> 00:45:19.846 like like i said it i've i 00:45:19.846 --> 00:45:24.306 bought a shit ton of these during covid and like it's a dark wrapper nice dark 00:45:24.306 --> 00:45:29.666 oily wrapper you know what that looks like that looks like somebody took a paper 00:45:29.666 --> 00:45:35.446 clip and cleaned out a weed pipe and then rubbed all the resin on a paper to 00:45:35.446 --> 00:45:38.206 roll the joint with i know because i've done it many many times, 00:45:39.526 --> 00:45:43.226 that's exactly what it looks i mean it looks like you get high as shit if you 00:45:43.226 --> 00:45:50.066 just fucking so this is a habano escuro maduro from honduras honduras connecticut 00:45:50.066 --> 00:45:52.366 and then filler is Habano, 00:45:52.886 --> 00:45:56.806 from Oma Tempe, Esteli, and Condega. 00:45:57.246 --> 00:46:00.226 So Honduras wrapper filler in Nicaragua. 00:46:01.526 --> 00:46:05.246 Yeah. Honduras wrapper binder filler from Nicaragua. 00:46:05.666 --> 00:46:09.266 I said I smoked the shit out of these. It's dark as hell, but it's more of like 00:46:09.266 --> 00:46:13.326 a medium plus depending on the day what you're drinking and smoking. 00:46:14.746 --> 00:46:18.386 It's a ton of flavor. A lot of chocolate nutty notes in there. 00:46:18.586 --> 00:46:20.726 Like I said, that salinity. Thank you. 00:46:22.171 --> 00:46:26.871 This one a lot and like yeah i don't know how well the label came i got a light 00:46:26.871 --> 00:46:30.251 right there and this is a metallic label but they've definitely they've changed 00:46:30.251 --> 00:46:34.591 their their bands since this one i don't know how well this is gonna come up 00:46:34.591 --> 00:46:37.511 but there's their their new band. 00:46:39.171 --> 00:46:44.511 That actually looks very similar band on my cigar there's the new one and nice 00:46:44.511 --> 00:46:48.431 i like it there's the old it's hard to see with the fucking light behind it 00:46:48.431 --> 00:46:50.791 but there's the old one the bands are awesome. 00:46:51.011 --> 00:46:57.231 The smokes are awesome. I think I have one more of these left that looks probably just like that. 00:46:59.234 --> 00:47:01.994 Great and it went out once and there's that 00:47:01.994 --> 00:47:05.594 burn line nice little straight burn line oh 00:47:05.594 --> 00:47:10.274 what you got i got lemon in this whiskey that i can't get over it's fantastic 00:47:10.274 --> 00:47:14.914 i love finding lemon but i always get it in rise i've never really picked up 00:47:14.914 --> 00:47:18.634 a lemon in it but i mean it's rum finished that's why i'm getting it but yeah 00:47:18.634 --> 00:47:22.594 i can't get over i'm just loving that lemon but now i'm smoking a um. 00:47:23.294 --> 00:47:27.334 Romeo and julietta 1875 this 00:47:27.334 --> 00:47:31.114 one is indonesian smatcha wrapper binder and 00:47:31.114 --> 00:47:33.794 filler is dominican this is 00:47:33.794 --> 00:47:36.894 the 5x50 bully it's pepper and 00:47:36.894 --> 00:47:39.774 cedar it's pepper bomb really i don't 00:47:39.774 --> 00:47:42.534 i haven't smoked one of these in a long time and i 00:47:42.534 --> 00:47:45.574 forgot how it's just it's a black pepper cigar which 00:47:45.574 --> 00:47:48.374 i really like but there's cedar notes in there too 00:47:48.374 --> 00:47:51.314 it's pretty that's pretty much it it's not i mean 00:47:51.314 --> 00:47:54.594 it's a six or seven dollar cigar so for that 00:47:54.594 --> 00:47:57.854 price it's fantastic and it's going 00:47:57.854 --> 00:48:01.134 i mean it paired nicely with these because there 00:48:01.134 --> 00:48:06.114 wasn't much you know we get we did get some some pepper spice from that scotch 00:48:06.114 --> 00:48:11.214 one but with this rum that's going really good but yeah no it's a good cigar 00:48:11.214 --> 00:48:16.134 for for the price i mean you can't go wrong right on so the cigar that i've 00:48:16.134 --> 00:48:20.414 got yeah the scotch finish did dry my mouth out. 00:48:20.774 --> 00:48:26.574 This cigar didn't necessarily do that. Maduros tend to make me salivate a little bit more. 00:48:26.794 --> 00:48:30.694 And I, you know, that's, I can say that with confidence because I smoke a lot 00:48:30.694 --> 00:48:33.654 of Maduros. That's my favorite style of cigar. 00:48:34.934 --> 00:48:39.554 It did compliment both of these whiskeys very, very well, very well. 00:48:39.654 --> 00:48:44.094 I'm eager to see how it's going to compliment the whiskey that I'm going to 00:48:44.094 --> 00:48:48.974 be drinking for this pours on me and I will talk about that in a little bit 00:48:48.974 --> 00:48:52.114 and what that has to do with the whiskeys that we've already had. 00:48:52.274 --> 00:48:55.394 I alluded to the fact that it's a third bottle of 117 series. 00:48:57.190 --> 00:48:59.450 God, I even had this cigar. It's 00:48:59.450 --> 00:49:02.550 been on the top of my humidor in a shelf with a bunch of other cigars. 00:49:02.630 --> 00:49:06.630 And when I got in there to find out or to figure out what I was going to smoke 00:49:06.630 --> 00:49:10.350 tonight, I found like 15 molded cigars. 00:49:11.270 --> 00:49:17.870 Motherfuck. So I'd taken out, thrown them away. I took the water container out 00:49:17.870 --> 00:49:20.930 of my humidor so that it brings the humidity down. 00:49:21.110 --> 00:49:23.190 I'm guessing it just got a little bit too humid in there. 00:49:24.764 --> 00:49:29.684 It, it, it, especially with the rum finish, it brought out some notes that I 00:49:29.684 --> 00:49:35.364 didn't find before, some slight coffee notes, a little bit of chocolate in there. 00:49:35.524 --> 00:49:38.724 So that's more of those bourbon qualities that I'm looking for. 00:49:38.884 --> 00:49:43.764 I don't always find coffee, but I more often than not find chocolate across the board. 00:49:44.304 --> 00:49:50.024 And although I'm not a fan of chocolate, I like to find those notes when I drink 00:49:50.024 --> 00:49:54.684 bourbon and that helped bring that out in the rum, not in the bourbon. 00:49:54.764 --> 00:49:59.304 Not in the Scotch cask finish, but in the rum cask finish, absolutely. 00:49:59.704 --> 00:50:05.644 So, yeah, it's really, really good on its own. There's some pepper notes. 00:50:06.604 --> 00:50:09.824 There's some of that salinity that Jerry was talking about. 00:50:11.124 --> 00:50:14.784 There's, you know, definitely some leather qualities to this. 00:50:14.904 --> 00:50:18.224 And just pretty much everything that you hear me rave about on this show, 00:50:18.344 --> 00:50:20.504 the things that I like to find in a cigar, this is it. 00:50:20.924 --> 00:50:23.964 And it's not real, real expensive. 00:50:24.764 --> 00:50:31.464 You can get a box of them for $2.17. 00:50:33.004 --> 00:50:38.204 This is a Robusto, and you can get a box of these for $2.39, 00:50:38.484 --> 00:50:44.204 so $2.40, which I would gladly pay when I have the money to pay for it. 00:50:44.324 --> 00:50:49.584 So just know when you hear me say I would gladly pay, it doesn't mean that I 00:50:49.584 --> 00:50:55.384 am rich enough to do so. It just means that if I were rich enough to do so, So I would gladly pay it. 00:50:55.684 --> 00:51:00.824 This is the Perdomo Reserve Maduro. It is the 10th anniversary. 00:51:01.324 --> 00:51:06.284 And as you can see there, it is a very similar label to what Jerry just showed 00:51:06.284 --> 00:51:09.704 us for the new label for the cigar that he's smoking. 00:51:10.004 --> 00:51:15.344 I mean, it's somewhat, you know, it's blue. It's got the nice circular deal here. Yeah. 00:51:16.392 --> 00:51:21.772 Um, I believe this was sent to me now. I could be wrong. 00:51:22.492 --> 00:51:27.492 We send a lot of samples to each other. We've got, we have too many samples. 00:51:27.772 --> 00:51:31.792 We have too many samples, gentlemen. That's why I've slowed down the amount 00:51:31.792 --> 00:51:33.432 of samples that I send to you guys. 00:51:33.672 --> 00:51:37.792 Cause we have too many motherfucking samples. We, we have, I don't, 00:51:37.952 --> 00:51:40.032 I'm swimming in a sea of samples. 00:51:40.032 --> 00:51:45.692 I have, I have a huge box right down here to my left. And there's a fucking 00:51:45.692 --> 00:51:50.612 stack of them over there to my right that you can even see in the bottom left 00:51:50.612 --> 00:51:52.552 corner of my screen there. 00:51:53.372 --> 00:52:00.112 But I believe that this came in a Cigar of the Month Club package from JR Cigars 00:52:00.112 --> 00:52:02.412 or from LuxuryCigars.com. 00:52:02.652 --> 00:52:09.292 I don't think either one of you guys sent this to me, and I have to recommend this. 00:52:09.952 --> 00:52:12.692 It's called the Limited Cabinet Series. 00:52:13.732 --> 00:52:20.292 The label as i just showed there actually so and i don't know why it might be the. 00:52:21.652 --> 00:52:26.932 Chromium look chromium was a big thing back when i was a kid there were comic 00:52:26.932 --> 00:52:31.872 books printed in chromium there were action figure labels printed with chromium 00:52:31.872 --> 00:52:34.192 it was fucking everywhere and it didn't mean anything i don't know what fuck 00:52:34.192 --> 00:52:38.192 it means i don't know what chromium is but i assume it's a type of metal. 00:52:38.992 --> 00:52:42.932 But this reminds me, that's exactly what this reminds me of. 00:52:45.008 --> 00:52:49.968 I'm a huge comic book nerd had been my entire life when I was a kid I went to 00:52:49.968 --> 00:53:00.408 a store a comic book store and my grandmother bought me an entire set of Marvel X-Men cards and, 00:53:01.208 --> 00:53:07.508 some of them were chromium similar to this they had this look most of them weren't 00:53:07.508 --> 00:53:10.988 but some of them did and this cigar, 00:53:11.628 --> 00:53:20.488 puts me in that mindset that feeling that I had when I brought home that pile of cards. 00:53:21.588 --> 00:53:28.408 So it kind of evokes a core memory, which is pretty cool, I think. But it's great. 00:53:28.688 --> 00:53:32.748 It's a great cigar, and it's going very well. So I got to encourage you guys 00:53:32.748 --> 00:53:35.748 and everybody listening to pick some up. 00:53:35.848 --> 00:53:42.688 You can get a, well, that's a Torpedo pack of five Robusto, $52.99. 00:53:42.688 --> 00:53:52.308 So $5.29 per cigar I mean Can you really For a good cigar can you really do any wrong For $5.29. 00:53:53.548 --> 00:54:02.168 No my math is wrong $10 $10 per cigar Still not bad So at any rate Very very 00:54:02.168 --> 00:54:06.928 pleased with this pairing And are you guys ready to move on To this pours on me, 00:54:07.548 --> 00:54:09.608 Let's do it Music. 00:54:19.061 --> 00:54:26.841 Okay so this pours on me we're we're just doing our own thing and since i alluded 00:54:26.841 --> 00:54:29.921 to the fact that i had another 117 series to talk about i'll just go ahead and 00:54:29.921 --> 00:54:32.501 jump right in this is the 1910, 00:54:33.321 --> 00:54:37.621 extra extra old so if you're a fan of old forestry you know all about the 1910 00:54:38.021 --> 00:54:41.761 if you're a fan of whiskey especially american whiskey you know all about the 00:54:41.761 --> 00:54:44.041 1910 And it's fantastic. 00:54:44.481 --> 00:54:48.681 It's an absolutely fantastic. I mean, you can find it anywhere for, 00:54:48.681 --> 00:54:50.901 what, $35, something like that. 00:54:51.381 --> 00:54:53.521 It's great. It's absolutely great. 00:54:54.041 --> 00:54:56.801 And there's no reason not to pick it up when you can. 00:54:57.481 --> 00:55:01.501 This is extra, extra old. And what that means, we're all going to find out together 00:55:01.501 --> 00:55:05.341 because I'm sure that it's on this label. And I haven't read it myself. 00:55:06.181 --> 00:55:11.541 I'm wrong about the price. So $19.10 here, $750 is $48.99. 00:55:12.261 --> 00:55:16.141 Still, great price for a great product. So on the label here, 00:55:16.281 --> 00:55:21.321 it says, Old Fine Whiskey is a double-barreled bourbon in Old Forester's Whiskey Roast Series. 00:55:21.881 --> 00:55:26.881 For this release, the brand experimented with extended finishing by leaving 00:55:26.881 --> 00:55:31.781 the whiskey in the heavily charred secondary barrel for at least 24 months. 00:55:31.781 --> 00:55:33.481 So that's going to be two years, of course. 00:55:33.881 --> 00:55:39.441 This is batch two, released in July of 2025, which is just last year. 00:55:39.441 --> 00:55:45.781 Of course, it has their DSP on there, like I mentioned earlier. 00:55:45.881 --> 00:55:48.521 The size is the same. It's still a 375. 00:55:49.481 --> 00:55:56.241 Proof is 93. That's 46.5% alcohol. And this shit is dark. I mean... 00:55:57.758 --> 00:56:01.298 Yeah, it is dark as fuck. Like it's just dark. 00:56:02.078 --> 00:56:07.998 And yeah, that is a heavy nose. So I'm going to let you guys tell me what you think about the nose. 00:56:08.918 --> 00:56:11.398 What are we laughing about here? I see you guys both laughing. 00:56:11.738 --> 00:56:14.118 You said tell us about the nose. We don't have that, Porter. 00:56:15.478 --> 00:56:16.978 I forgot. I forgot. 00:56:20.118 --> 00:56:25.998 Somebody texted me. Sorry about that, Jerry. Somebody just texted me and said bye-bye, Florida. 00:56:26.578 --> 00:56:30.878 It looks like Iowa just knocked Florida off in the NCAA Tournament 73-72. 00:56:31.658 --> 00:56:34.838 They should have been knocked out of the tournament before the tournament started 00:56:34.838 --> 00:56:38.478 when they got knocked off by whoever that was a couple weeks ago. 00:56:41.458 --> 00:56:46.998 I wasn't going to say that. No, I was waiting. Tell me about the nose. It's fantastic. 00:56:47.538 --> 00:56:50.018 Yeah, tell me about the nose that you can't smell. 00:56:50.578 --> 00:56:53.418 Here, hold on a minute. Here you go. Smell it. 00:56:54.078 --> 00:56:57.798 The scratch and sniff. smell-o-vision. I'm fucking retarded. 00:56:58.278 --> 00:57:03.658 So anyway, yeah, I got distracted but I'm all, you know, Kentucky got put out today. 00:57:03.998 --> 00:57:09.558 That's a bummer for me but I love this time of year more than any other time 00:57:09.558 --> 00:57:13.538 of year except for NFL playoffs. They're equal to me. 00:57:13.998 --> 00:57:18.198 So I got distracted whenever I got that text. But anyway, yeah, 00:57:18.358 --> 00:57:20.298 this is, it's heavy fruit. 00:57:20.618 --> 00:57:27.318 It's everything that you expect from a 1910 but it It is amplified tenfold. 00:57:27.478 --> 00:57:32.658 So it's, and I'll send, goodness gracious. I'll send this out to you guys soon. 00:57:33.258 --> 00:57:36.358 I love it. How y'all just sat there and fucking looked at me like I was an Indian. 00:57:41.266 --> 00:57:46.826 God, life's hard when you're stupid. Life's hard in general. 00:57:47.746 --> 00:57:55.246 Yeah, but when you're stupid, it's real hard. So heavy, heavy, heavy red fruit notes. 00:57:56.366 --> 00:58:02.426 But it's like red. It's I know what it is. The strawberry shortcake with strawberries on top. 00:58:02.726 --> 00:58:06.406 I don't know if you guys are a fan of strawberry shortcake. I love it. 00:58:06.546 --> 00:58:09.766 And not the dumbass cartoon, which I 00:58:09.766 --> 00:58:12.766 may actually enjoy if I were to go back and watch it now as 00:58:12.766 --> 00:58:15.766 an adult but my experience with it 00:58:15.766 --> 00:58:19.006 is that's a girl's cartoon it's stupid because 00:58:19.006 --> 00:58:24.466 I was a kid when it was on TV and that's just how it was back then but there's 00:58:24.466 --> 00:58:31.826 definitely some pound cake and some ripe strawberries right off the nose which 00:58:31.826 --> 00:58:37.126 is just incredible holy shit let's see how it goes on the palate, 00:58:37.886 --> 00:58:41.186 so the red fruit carries over but it's not necessarily strawberries 00:58:41.186 --> 00:58:43.786 a little bit of sweetness there's a 00:58:43.786 --> 00:58:48.286 rye spice in there too that's just interesting with that sweetness and got that 00:58:48.286 --> 00:58:53.846 little bit of rye spice in there that is that's i dig that that juxtaposition 00:58:53.846 --> 00:58:55.846 there i dig it let's try it with 00:58:55.846 --> 00:59:02.246 this cigar real quick damn it i'm not lit i've gone out just like Okay. 00:59:02.826 --> 00:59:07.006 It's really weird. Now I'm confused because... 00:59:08.940 --> 00:59:19.900 Cigar, it takes that from a fruity light cake note into a heavy chocolate lava cake note. 00:59:20.940 --> 00:59:26.560 Yeah, that's fantastic. That is. So you guys, when you guys get these samples, 00:59:26.980 --> 00:59:31.560 if I can find some more of these cigars, I'm going to send these too. 00:59:31.720 --> 00:59:36.780 But if not, we need to get dark Maduros, or at least both of you guys do, 00:59:37.060 --> 00:59:40.720 so then that way you can you can try 00:59:40.720 --> 00:59:43.600 it out like this so like this is early i don't 00:59:43.600 --> 00:59:47.500 know how to describe it more than that so i'm i'm just gonna shut up the last 00:59:47.500 --> 00:59:50.800 time picked one i picked paul so i'm gonna pick jerry jerry 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:59.560 what is your poor there is there is no name for this no label no nothing well 00:59:59.560 --> 01:00:03.720 give me just a second i'll tell you about the nose it's not i don't think it's 01:00:03.720 --> 01:00:07.700 coming up when you hold it up in front of your face again, it looks like that. 01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:11.160 Yeah, it looks like your face is imprinted on the back of the bottle. 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.340 Like the B-Tac bottles? Yep, exactly. 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:22.080 Yep, you should do that. This was aged for one year and just under a month in 01:00:22.080 --> 01:00:23.700 that color. There's floaties all in it. 01:00:24.300 --> 01:00:27.300 It was clear a year ago. It is not no more. 01:00:27.640 --> 01:00:33.020 But there's a bunch of, which you guys will get some, a bottle of this coming 01:00:33.020 --> 01:00:36.900 up soon. But there's butterscotch in there. There's cinnamon in there. 01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:41.000 Majority of it is like malted. 01:00:41.220 --> 01:00:45.320 There's a lot of malted rye, malted barley, malted wheat in there. 01:00:45.700 --> 01:00:47.340 There's also a lot of corn. 01:00:48.100 --> 01:00:51.760 It's a weird one, but I've been enjoying it. But yeah, it's like cinnamon, 01:00:52.160 --> 01:00:55.020 like almost burnt butterscotch on the nose. Yeah. 01:00:57.255 --> 01:01:01.855 This eventually and you guys try it i'm waiting on some some bigger samples 01:01:01.855 --> 01:01:06.155 other than these little two ounce samples because i might have like three and 01:01:06.155 --> 01:01:10.295 a half four gallons of it sitting inside so i could give out some bigger samples 01:01:10.295 --> 01:01:12.315 and not have to worry about missing a bottle. 01:01:13.575 --> 01:01:16.575 So you guys will get those eventually looking forward to 01:01:16.575 --> 01:01:20.415 that same i have 01:01:20.415 --> 01:01:23.695 paul since you weren't here earlier i 01:01:23.695 --> 01:01:26.495 have a i won't talk about where 01:01:26.495 --> 01:01:29.655 i got it but i have a clear rye 01:01:29.655 --> 01:01:37.895 whiskey in a quart jar with a bourbon beggar as we speak so in the coming weeks 01:01:37.895 --> 01:01:45.515 that'll be divvied up see what we think see how your your your palate is the 01:01:45.515 --> 01:01:48.175 one that i'm most worried about because, 01:01:48.755 --> 01:01:52.595 you drink the rye all the time and 01:01:52.595 --> 01:01:55.615 that's how you know that i'm from the south because i just 01:01:55.615 --> 01:01:58.935 said the rye the rye so 01:01:58.935 --> 01:02:05.875 anyway go ahead paul what you got i grabbed one of my early contenders for best 01:02:05.875 --> 01:02:13.355 of the year it's the and you could tell because it's only march and nice it's 01:02:13.355 --> 01:02:16.415 the barrel New Year, 2026. That was a good one. 01:02:16.695 --> 01:02:21.815 I did send you guys samples out of this, but I have put a dent in it, and it's fantastic. 01:02:22.115 --> 01:02:27.235 It's seven states. I want to say, count them up, seven. I think it was 17 different 01:02:27.235 --> 01:02:28.955 whiskeys from seven states. 01:02:30.770 --> 01:02:36.010 The derived mash bill is $74, $21, $4 with 1% wheat. 01:02:36.650 --> 01:02:41.610 It's fantastic. I mean, it has all the fruits, all the stone fruits, 01:02:41.790 --> 01:02:48.410 like apple, pear, apricot, but then tons of sweetness too, caramel, vanilla. 01:02:48.710 --> 01:02:54.730 I mean, every good note that you find in a bourbon is in this fourth. It's faster. 01:02:55.530 --> 01:03:00.010 Yeah, I kept a little bit. I might have kept about an ounce, maybe a little less. 01:03:00.010 --> 01:03:05.490 So when we get towards our end of the year best of or favorites, 01:03:05.810 --> 01:03:09.670 at least I'll have some of that to go back to, along with a couple other fours 01:03:09.670 --> 01:03:11.570 that I've put to the side. 01:03:12.170 --> 01:03:18.330 So I could go back to them before we do that instead of trying to remember these fours a year later. 01:03:18.930 --> 01:03:25.350 But I remember liking that one a lot. Yeah, it's definitely a contender. It's like 55.15%. 01:03:25.970 --> 01:03:29.670 I want to say it's like $85, $90 or something like that. 01:03:29.670 --> 01:03:32.670 But i mean it's it's fantastic i love 01:03:32.670 --> 01:03:35.350 i love getting apricot that's one of my favorite notes too 01:03:35.350 --> 01:03:38.530 to get out of bourbons and i only really get it from these barrel products i 01:03:38.530 --> 01:03:44.030 don't know how they blend to find that that apricot you know i get it big time 01:03:44.030 --> 01:03:49.730 on the seagrass and and this one is it's there too indiana kentucky tennessee 01:03:49.730 --> 01:03:55.970 wyoming maryland new york and ohio a couple different whiskeys for each of those states it's i mean. 01:03:58.914 --> 01:04:04.354 Blended bourbon. They do. I've never had anything by then. 01:04:04.474 --> 01:04:06.894 And I've heard a lot of people talk a lot of shit about Dovetail, 01:04:07.554 --> 01:04:11.414 which that's the only thing that I've ever heard anybody talk shit about as 01:04:11.414 --> 01:04:12.594 far as something they produce. 01:04:12.714 --> 01:04:16.114 And that is fucking ridiculous because Dovetail is fucking incorrect. 01:04:16.454 --> 01:04:17.794 Every year it's fucking good. 01:04:18.254 --> 01:04:21.874 I got something for you, Paul. I think Adam's had it. 01:04:22.794 --> 01:04:27.054 It's a starlight rye finished in apricot brandy barrels. 01:04:27.534 --> 01:04:31.674 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've got a bottle upstairs that Wayne got for me. 01:04:31.774 --> 01:04:33.114 I had another one that I drank already. 01:04:33.374 --> 01:04:39.754 Yeah, I think I got you that one and the peach one. Yeah, you got me the second one and the peach one. 01:04:39.854 --> 01:04:43.314 Wayne got... I can't remember from... I think it was Bourbon Fines. 01:04:43.594 --> 01:04:47.854 You got me the first one. You got me the first because you sent me the apricot 01:04:47.854 --> 01:04:49.234 and the peach at the same time. 01:04:49.394 --> 01:04:53.914 And Wayne got me the second one. And the same thing as Copper and Kings is we 01:04:53.914 --> 01:04:55.494 thought that peach was going to be fantastic. 01:04:55.974 --> 01:04:59.574 It was, but for snap apricot was amazing. 01:05:00.814 --> 01:05:05.334 So I got to, I got to look to see how much I have left and I'll get at least 01:05:05.334 --> 01:05:08.714 Paul, if not both of you guys samples just to get it out. 01:05:08.874 --> 01:05:13.054 I got to see how much I have that left. But I remember that one was fantastic. Yeah. 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.620 Yeah it yeah apricot is one of 01:05:16.620 --> 01:05:19.800 my yeah i love fun and and it's 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.540 really only in barrel i don't i don't get it 01:05:22.540 --> 01:05:25.860 in any other products really i don't know what what whiskey they're getting 01:05:25.860 --> 01:05:30.340 it from what you know in their blend or if it's just the blend that they're 01:05:30.340 --> 01:05:34.080 doing they're they're seeking out that flavor but well they don't they don't 01:05:34.080 --> 01:05:39.060 talk about they don't tell where they you know they're they're as transparent 01:05:39.060 --> 01:05:41.900 as they can be without telling you exactly where they get the whiskey from, 01:05:42.120 --> 01:05:48.160 which if their whiskey was shitty or if they had an offering at all that was 01:05:48.160 --> 01:05:52.000 not worth it, you know, that I'd be, I'd be more worried about where they get it from. 01:05:52.120 --> 01:05:56.000 And yeah, but since it's not, then I'm not, I don't, you know, 01:05:56.120 --> 01:05:57.740 I don't care. I don't care. 01:05:58.060 --> 01:06:00.960 It's wherever they're getting it from. It's, it's obviously good whiskey. 01:06:01.300 --> 01:06:06.260 Yeah. Yeah. Looking at the states, they get it from Indiana is coming from MVP 01:06:06.260 --> 01:06:07.860 and Maryland's coming from Sagamore. 01:06:08.080 --> 01:06:11.020 The other five states could be, here's the thing about that. 01:06:11.600 --> 01:06:17.180 Let's walk that back for a second, because I went to a tasting at Total Wine, 01:06:17.420 --> 01:06:22.120 and it was Bardstown Distillery. 01:06:23.260 --> 01:06:30.980 Yeah, Bardstown Distilling. They gave me a, it was either a rye or a high rye. 01:06:32.661 --> 01:06:36.241 Couldn't tell me where the distillate came from. And when I guessed MGP, 01:06:36.541 --> 01:06:38.961 they said, it's not from MGP. 01:06:39.321 --> 01:06:41.941 They said, I can't tell you where it's from, but it's not MGP. 01:06:42.061 --> 01:06:43.421 I said, well, then it's West Fork whiskey. 01:06:44.061 --> 01:06:49.061 So with that being the case, it may not be because West Fork is clearly doing 01:06:49.061 --> 01:06:53.861 some contract distilling themselves and they're, they're doing it with enough 01:06:53.861 --> 01:06:57.601 gusto or oomph or whatever you want to call it, 01:06:57.721 --> 01:07:00.761 that they're getting the, the attention of Bardstown distilling, 01:07:00.761 --> 01:07:03.321 who is actively trying to become, 01:07:03.841 --> 01:07:09.201 a competitor with MGP with their contract distilling and things like that. 01:07:09.321 --> 01:07:12.501 So it may not be MGP within that bottle. 01:07:13.201 --> 01:07:19.241 Yeah, but I think Beryl was doing stuff with MGP before Frostport was. 01:07:19.501 --> 01:07:24.141 I'd imagine they had some kind of contract. But if that was a 24 or 25 or before 01:07:24.141 --> 01:07:26.501 release, I'd say there's no question it's MGP. 01:07:26.701 --> 01:07:32.601 But West Fork... There is a bit of a question. When did West Fork open, though, So 2021, 2020? 01:07:33.081 --> 01:07:38.941 I don't know, but I know- They just started distilling their own stuff within the last- 01:07:40.286 --> 01:07:43.226 Probably because maybe six years there's a 01:07:43.226 --> 01:07:46.266 it says on the back of the bottle in indiana five 01:07:46.266 --> 01:07:49.486 six eight eleven and thirteen year whiskey so 01:07:49.486 --> 01:07:54.946 i'm thinking the eight eleven thirteen is definitely in the mtp i'd have to 01:07:54.946 --> 01:08:00.766 google what i know west has only been open for when they are so years maybe 01:08:00.766 --> 01:08:05.426 when they started producing like releasing their own distillate i think they 01:08:05.426 --> 01:08:07.206 They were putting it out at like three, four years. 01:08:07.266 --> 01:08:10.226 And that was only a couple of years ago. 01:08:10.506 --> 01:08:14.646 Yeah. So, and I can't see them. Oh, it's barrel. They probably can, 01:08:14.766 --> 01:08:17.306 but I don't know if they would actually go. 01:08:18.046 --> 01:08:21.046 I don't know if they would, I don't know if they would source from two different 01:08:21.046 --> 01:08:22.866 distilleries in the same state. 01:08:23.066 --> 01:08:26.886 I think they would because they want to be tricky, but I don't think it fucking 01:08:26.886 --> 01:08:28.366 matters. I really don't. 01:08:28.726 --> 01:08:32.306 Getting the, you know, barrels that are good. I think that's what they're. 01:08:33.046 --> 01:08:38.486 Yeah. And hats off to them for it. If you've got multiple places to get multiple 01:08:38.486 --> 01:08:41.486 barrels that are just fantastic, why in the fuck wouldn't you? 01:08:42.086 --> 01:08:45.546 Unless they make you sign a non-compete or an NDA or something, 01:08:45.746 --> 01:08:49.066 it shouldn't be an NDA, but a non-compete or something like that, 01:08:49.086 --> 01:08:53.186 which I don't even know how you can't really consider that a non-compete. 01:08:53.266 --> 01:08:54.886 You're not trying to compete directly with them. 01:08:55.446 --> 01:08:58.746 You're just using products from two different distillers. 01:08:58.866 --> 01:09:02.446 I don't know that you can come up with a contract that says that you can't do 01:09:02.446 --> 01:09:04.806 that. You can make a contract for anything. 01:09:05.446 --> 01:09:07.846 Yeah, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to hold up in court. 01:09:08.026 --> 01:09:10.726 Oh, no, not at all. And so, I mean, I... 01:09:12.262 --> 01:09:18.042 A contract that says that you own me a golden cat and a fucking rainbow bridge 01:09:18.042 --> 01:09:20.442 that takes me to Valhalla, that doesn't mean it's going to fucking happen. 01:09:20.762 --> 01:09:24.402 Yeah, but if MGP puts out a contract saying you can't use any other distillate 01:09:24.402 --> 01:09:27.342 from Indiana except for ours and then they go and do Westford, 01:09:27.662 --> 01:09:30.202 MGP will just be like, fuck you guys, you're not getting my shit anymore. 01:09:30.582 --> 01:09:34.722 I don't think they're doing that though. I don't think MGP gives a fuck to that 01:09:34.722 --> 01:09:39.922 part because they supply whiskey to so many distilleries across the entire country. 01:09:39.922 --> 01:09:41.142 I don't think that they can. 01:09:41.362 --> 01:09:47.022 I really don't because they were supplying distillate to West Fork for a while. Yeah. 01:09:47.682 --> 01:09:52.642 Well, they still are with their Hugh Hammer or Hammerline. I'm pretty sure. 01:09:53.302 --> 01:09:56.682 Yeah, I just I just Googled it. Yeah. 01:09:57.082 --> 01:10:07.222 So I was wrong. West Fork opened in like 2014 15, but they moved into their big plant in 2020 2021. 01:10:07.662 --> 01:10:11.422 That's what I would call it. I think that's when they started really pumping out. 01:10:12.022 --> 01:10:16.442 Their own stuff. So, I mean, there could, this five and six year that's in there 01:10:16.442 --> 01:10:20.622 could be West Fork and the eight, 11, 13 could be MGP. 01:10:20.862 --> 01:10:24.882 Who knows? Cause I, I don't think from 2014 when they opened 2020, 01:10:25.342 --> 01:10:29.442 they were probably producing enough, but I mean, barrels just grabbing a handful of barrels. 01:10:29.582 --> 01:10:34.562 They could have a barrel from them from 2014. Who knows? I mean, it's barrel. 01:10:34.722 --> 01:10:38.522 They, you know, they can, you know, it's, they're not a little blending house. 01:10:39.082 --> 01:10:43.002 They're, they're the biggest one, I think. So, So, yeah, and it wouldn't, 01:10:43.122 --> 01:10:47.962 like I said, I could see MGP, yeah, like you said, Jerry, saying you're only 01:10:47.962 --> 01:10:50.682 going to get it from us in Indiana, but I doubt they really care that much. 01:10:50.722 --> 01:10:51.882 I mean, they're gigantic. 01:10:52.262 --> 01:10:58.042 So if Barrow wants to grab, you know, 10 barrels of West Fork to throw in, I could. 01:10:59.300 --> 01:11:02.060 Probably could i'm just pretty certain that the maryland one is 01:11:02.060 --> 01:11:04.760 definitely sagamore i don't know who else maryland's got 01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:07.500 seven and eight year bourbon who else is it who else is 01:11:07.500 --> 01:11:10.160 in there indiana it probably is in dp if i 01:11:10.160 --> 01:11:13.220 had to guess i'm just saying there's a possibility but yeah that's it 01:11:13.220 --> 01:11:16.080 could be because there is a the five and six could definitely be 01:11:16.080 --> 01:11:18.940 um kentucky five six and ten here i'll 01:11:18.940 --> 01:11:21.780 be anybody that could be anybody tennessee eight ten 01:11:21.780 --> 01:11:27.560 and sixteen that's i would imagine is he it's probably tennessee distilling 01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:33.300 most likely or dickle but kentucky it could be anybody but i'm gonna guess it's 01:11:33.300 --> 01:11:40.700 barton barton and yeah bluegrass or yeah it could be bluegrass it could be heaven hill it could be uh. 01:11:41.898 --> 01:11:44.858 Beam hell it could be maker's mark probably not 01:11:44.858 --> 01:11:49.058 it could be anybody but it's most like it's probably barton or it's probably 01:11:49.058 --> 01:11:52.798 yeah it could be it could be being could be it could be anybody i mean everybody 01:11:52.798 --> 01:11:57.638 sources barrels yeah uh if i had to guess if i really had to put a finer point 01:11:57.638 --> 01:12:03.158 on barton heaven hill beam those are going to be my three but yeah i don't really get that, 01:12:03.798 --> 01:12:06.818 peanutty quality from barrel what was 01:12:06.818 --> 01:12:09.898 the ages on those no but they're kentucky kentucky's five 01:12:09.898 --> 01:12:13.098 six and ten but there's 17 different whiskeys 01:12:13.098 --> 01:12:16.138 in here too so i mean you're gonna they're gonna blend out whatever 01:12:16.138 --> 01:12:19.058 they don't want to have in there to give it yes but at 01:12:19.058 --> 01:12:22.138 the same time that's that's that one 01:12:22.138 --> 01:12:25.018 offering they have a lot of offerings and i've had many of 01:12:25.018 --> 01:12:28.398 them yeah it's not always 17 different whiskeys 01:12:28.398 --> 01:12:31.278 blended together in that particular bottle 01:12:31.278 --> 01:12:35.038 and i've never gotten that nutty quality from 01:12:35.038 --> 01:12:38.318 a barrel so i i think bean is 01:12:38.318 --> 01:12:41.258 probably out if i had to guess barton or heaven hill 01:12:41.258 --> 01:12:44.218 and if i really had to guess i'm gonna go with barton but 01:12:44.218 --> 01:12:50.158 barton's going to be my my main guess yeah and then nine and 13 year old from 01:12:50.158 --> 01:12:54.958 wyoming which is wyoming distiller yeah i don't why i don't know i don't think 01:12:54.958 --> 01:12:59.098 there's anybody else in wyoming that's been distilling as long to be honest 01:12:59.098 --> 01:13:03.818 i mean yeah if so it's some obscure place that i don't know of i. 01:13:06.771 --> 01:13:11.471 Distilling now, but to have 9 and 13 year old eats whiskey, it's got to be Wyoming whiskey. 01:13:11.931 --> 01:13:15.391 Then Maryland 78, it's got to be Sagamore. New York 5 year old, 01:13:15.731 --> 01:13:18.351 it'd be a whole bunch of places. I think that's Finger Lakes. 01:13:18.971 --> 01:13:21.271 Yeah, I mean, it could be a whole bunch of them. I know they worked with Finger 01:13:21.271 --> 01:13:23.931 Lakes in the past. Again, who knows if they stick with them. 01:13:24.071 --> 01:13:26.091 Is your family in the Finger Lakes? 01:13:27.071 --> 01:13:31.171 Do you need to go on vacation to the Finger Lakes? Y'all don't have any idea 01:13:31.171 --> 01:13:33.211 what I'm talking about. You've not watched The Office enough. 01:13:33.931 --> 01:13:40.231 Not in a while. Jim Carrey. When Jim Carrey applied for Steve Carell's job on 01:13:40.231 --> 01:13:43.791 the office, all he could talk about was needing to go to the Finger Lakes. 01:13:43.911 --> 01:13:48.171 He was supposed to be at the Finger Lakes while he was in his interview. 01:13:49.031 --> 01:13:54.071 And when I went to Maine, I drove through Scranton. 01:13:54.231 --> 01:14:02.211 I went and saw the pen and paper tower that it shows in the opening sequence of the office. 01:14:02.471 --> 01:14:05.511 And then while we were driving up through there there were 01:14:05.511 --> 01:14:08.731 several signs for the finger lakes and that was all so fucking 01:14:08.731 --> 01:14:12.171 but yeah anyway it's i 01:14:12.171 --> 01:14:17.271 i've got the 2023 or 01:14:17.271 --> 01:14:20.731 four i think it's 320 no i think it's 24 release 01:14:20.731 --> 01:14:28.371 of the new year's barrel and and i've had many of the barrel releases the new 01:14:28.371 --> 01:14:33.751 year's i think is one of my favorites it's so good and i don't remember who 01:14:33.751 --> 01:14:40.511 it was i hadn't had a lot of barrel at that point and i was texting our bcb chat. 01:14:42.178 --> 01:14:46.958 About which one to get whatever i think it was d rock that said to get the belt 01:14:46.958 --> 01:14:52.918 with the new year release it might have been it might have been jd but anyway 01:14:52.918 --> 01:14:56.738 that's what i and i love it it's great that's that's that shit is fantastic 01:14:56.738 --> 01:15:02.118 barrel can do no wrong and we should look into getting, 01:15:02.998 --> 01:15:09.678 their head guy on to this show actually i'll reach out after after we get off tonight it would be, 01:15:10.658 --> 01:15:13.818 i remember that interview they did with him and he 01:15:13.818 --> 01:15:16.678 seemed like a really cool dude it'd be a lot of fun to have him 01:15:16.678 --> 01:15:19.518 on and just talk about their process and 01:15:19.518 --> 01:15:22.598 what they do because it's it's damn good stuff it's so 01:15:22.598 --> 01:15:28.258 good yeah well guys i think that brings us to the end of another episode of 01:15:28.258 --> 01:15:32.618 birds and beards of elvadeers coming up we've got some episodes you don't want 01:15:32.618 --> 01:15:39.018 to miss some really cool stuff going on with chat chat whiskey chattanooga whiskey 01:15:39.018 --> 01:15:41.678 in case You're not aware the, 01:15:41.678 --> 01:15:47.578 the founders day situation that's going on there. They've got some specials going on. 01:15:48.138 --> 01:15:51.358 I can't make it. I've got some shit. I've got something else that I can't miss, 01:15:51.398 --> 01:15:53.978 but tickets are on sale right now. 01:15:54.178 --> 01:15:56.718 I know Jerry and Paul have already bought theirs. Yep. 01:15:58.157 --> 01:16:01.277 Stuff and our airbnb is literally next door 01:16:01.277 --> 01:16:04.357 like it's on the property we'll have some good pours 01:16:04.357 --> 01:16:07.697 sampled out cindia i bought the the 01:16:07.697 --> 01:16:10.457 ticket comes with their bottle and then that we're 01:16:10.457 --> 01:16:15.437 doing the past present and future 375 kit and we both picked one of those up 01:16:15.437 --> 01:16:19.597 with the ticket i think and i'm sure we're probably going to make some purchases 01:16:19.597 --> 01:16:23.737 while we're there and hopefully we can weasel ourself in there before or after 01:16:23.737 --> 01:16:28.737 like i said we're right we're literally on property What's the date on that weekend again? 01:16:29.477 --> 01:16:33.137 It's April 9th, which is a Thursday. Yeah, Thursday. 01:16:33.777 --> 01:16:37.737 Yeah, I think. Ah, that's why I couldn't make it. It's not, it's fucking, 01:16:38.037 --> 01:16:41.717 yeah. Yeah, I think you said you had like a class or a competition. 01:16:42.077 --> 01:16:46.097 Yeah, I've got to teach that night. That's Tuesday and Thursday are my busy nights. 01:16:46.097 --> 01:16:56.617 And I'm moving around my Tuesday night on the week of the 21st so that I can go see a 01:16:56.997 --> 01:17:02.277 Seven dust, a band that I have listened to for over 30 years and never seen 01:17:02.277 --> 01:17:06.037 live that I'm going to be seeing them at a venue that I work at. 01:17:06.277 --> 01:17:09.257 So, you know, I might actually get to meet the guys and whatever. 01:17:09.477 --> 01:17:13.237 So I won't be able to, I can't make that work, but that would be fun. 01:17:13.697 --> 01:17:17.717 Yeah, we'll try to get, we're going, I'm going to still work out my travel details, 01:17:17.817 --> 01:17:19.817 but I think we're going in on Wednesday. 01:17:20.757 --> 01:17:24.617 So we need to reach out to them and see if we can help them set up on Wednesday 01:17:24.617 --> 01:17:28.077 and maybe some bottles in our pockets with some barrels or something. 01:17:28.537 --> 01:17:33.597 Yeah, I'll reach out to the contact I have and just basically let them know 01:17:33.597 --> 01:17:37.957 and see if we can get like a early access or something. 01:17:38.157 --> 01:17:41.697 We'll help them set up some tables. So how long are you guys going to be there? 01:17:42.717 --> 01:17:46.257 I think Wednesday to Friday. I know I have to be back Friday, Monday. 01:17:48.048 --> 01:17:53.388 I think, because then I have to drive down to a cheer tournament in Virginia Beach Friday night. 01:17:53.768 --> 01:18:01.188 I'll be driving up Wednesday morning, get up there. It's only six hours, maybe. 01:18:01.528 --> 01:18:07.148 So I'll get up there sometime Wednesday afternoon, and then sometime Friday 01:18:07.148 --> 01:18:09.668 I'll head back, depending on what Paul's situation is. 01:18:10.068 --> 01:18:13.908 So Wednesday we're going to harass them around dinnertime to let us in their 01:18:13.908 --> 01:18:17.688 distillery and just lock the door behind us and let us do what we want to do. 01:18:18.908 --> 01:18:23.588 Either that or we'll see if Tim and Tiana and those guys want to go to dinner or something. 01:18:24.068 --> 01:18:27.068 Yeah. If you were going to be there through Saturday, I would have made the 01:18:27.068 --> 01:18:31.468 trip down on a Friday evening, but it doesn't seem like that's going to be the case. That's all right. 01:18:31.608 --> 01:18:34.448 I got to work Saturday, Sunday, so I had to come back. 01:18:36.068 --> 01:18:39.928 Well, definitely get online, buy your tickets, go check that out. 01:18:40.008 --> 01:18:43.028 It's guaranteed to be a good time. You can meet Paul and Jerry. 01:18:43.248 --> 01:18:46.608 Yeah, let us know if you're going to be there. We'll meet up. like i said our airbnb is 01:18:46.608 --> 01:18:50.528 literally next door to the riverfront distillery they're the they're the ones 01:18:50.528 --> 01:18:55.408 you want to meet anyway you don't i'm like a grinch you don't i'm not green 01:18:55.408 --> 01:18:58.668 adam's gonna be sitting there drinking his chattanooga and be like what do you 01:18:58.668 --> 01:19:05.128 smell of it i don't have a pour fuck you both so. 01:19:06.979 --> 01:19:13.099 Well you guys will see it after this episode gets released but next week we're 01:19:13.099 --> 01:19:17.519 going live with the father-son duo from bearded that is all that should be a 01:19:17.519 --> 01:19:20.859 good one and then in shoe weeks april, 01:19:21.919 --> 01:19:25.039 12th bearded sasquatch no that 01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.319 is uh oh april 12th 01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:31.179 i'm yeah i was right april 12th we have 01:19:31.179 --> 01:19:34.279 80 cigars on and then be elegant sash 01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:38.479 elegant elegant sasquatch is 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.419 517 so and then 01:19:41.419 --> 01:19:44.259 we might have one or might have one more 01:19:44.259 --> 01:19:47.819 coming on before our end of the year three-year blowout 01:19:47.819 --> 01:19:50.699 still kind of trying to work on details with that one but 01:19:50.699 --> 01:19:53.879 those are the next three guests beard 01:19:53.879 --> 01:19:57.459 is that is all at cigars and elegant sasquatch 01:19:57.459 --> 01:20:00.519 which between now and the 01:20:00.519 --> 01:20:03.339 28th which is probably going to be after this episode 01:20:03.339 --> 01:20:09.539 gets released so but if it gets released before then they have 50 off all their 01:20:09.539 --> 01:20:14.799 products on their store so go check them out if this episode gets released before 01:20:14.799 --> 01:20:19.279 then i'm not 100 sure when this will get released i feel like it's going to 01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:22.159 be after so if it is oh well right. 01:20:23.310 --> 01:20:29.750 So, as always, we want to encourage you to support your local veterans, 01:20:30.390 --> 01:20:35.370 military members, first responders, LEOs, firefighters, that kind of situation. 01:20:35.710 --> 01:20:42.250 Give often in any way that you can, whether it's prayers, just your support, 01:20:42.270 --> 01:20:48.350 or if you can give monetarily to charities that help to elevate those folks, it's great. 01:20:48.350 --> 01:20:56.870 Every six seconds or something like that, a veteran kills themselves. It's way too many. 01:20:57.070 --> 01:21:05.950 It's absolutely ridiculous. We can find ways to help those folks because they sure gave us their all. 01:21:06.470 --> 01:21:10.350 And the least we can do is help them out once they get back. 01:21:12.030 --> 01:21:16.990 You know, I feel like there's a better way to say look out for children than 01:21:16.990 --> 01:21:20.810 saying look out for children, but look out for the kids. You know, 01:21:20.990 --> 01:21:22.230 the world's fucking nuts. 01:21:22.430 --> 01:21:25.410 And every single day I hear more and more. 01:21:26.090 --> 01:21:30.170 It's sad that we actually have to say that. It's it fucking sucks, 01:21:30.190 --> 01:21:32.850 you know, and I saw a number today. 01:21:32.850 --> 01:21:39.210 It was something crazy, like 2,800 children had been recovered by the FBI and 01:21:39.210 --> 01:21:47.850 300 suspected human traffickers have been arrested since Kash Patel took over the FBI. 01:21:48.150 --> 01:21:52.350 And the problem, that's a problem because it's that many, but it's also a problem 01:21:52.350 --> 01:21:56.610 because that is a minuscule number compared to the amount of people that are 01:21:56.610 --> 01:21:58.910 out there actively preying on our children. 01:21:59.470 --> 01:22:03.710 And it's not always strangers that are doing this. Sometimes it's people that 01:22:03.710 --> 01:22:04.850 are familiar to these kids. 01:22:05.050 --> 01:22:07.810 Most of the time it's people that are familiar to these kids. That's a lot of times. 01:22:09.110 --> 01:22:15.550 And there are some states that have approved the firing squad for child molesters 01:22:15.550 --> 01:22:18.870 or some that have approved the death sentence. 01:22:19.250 --> 01:22:23.290 Thank you, Florida, for child molesters. I think it needs to go a step further. 01:22:23.450 --> 01:22:27.790 It needs to be awful. It needs to be humiliating. It needs to be gruesome. 01:22:27.910 --> 01:22:32.530 And it needs to be broadcast across every single television channel. 01:22:32.710 --> 01:22:35.390 Available to anyone that has a 01:22:35.390 --> 01:22:38.310 television on the planet earth chop their chop their 01:22:38.310 --> 01:22:41.230 dick off shove it up their ass let them suffer then fucking shoot 01:22:41.230 --> 01:22:44.290 them that's i i say do it and then hang 01:22:44.290 --> 01:22:48.550 them and don't roll out just just let them dangle there until they die make 01:22:48.550 --> 01:22:53.430 it awful make it tarot make it so that anybody that's seeing it knows hey i 01:22:53.430 --> 01:22:57.490 shouldn't do this i'm fucked up i shouldn't do this i'm gonna stop doing this 01:22:57.490 --> 01:23:01.910 thing so i don't end up like that watch out for roblox watch out for Minecraft, 01:23:02.210 --> 01:23:05.970 watch out for Instagram, watch out for pretty much anything that's social media. 01:23:06.150 --> 01:23:11.210 We had to ban Roblox here in my house recently, and one of the developers was 01:23:11.210 --> 01:23:14.730 recently popped with like 40 counts of child porn. 01:23:16.540 --> 01:23:22.520 So just watch out for them Just try to be a good human And as always enjoy your 01:23:22.520 --> 01:23:26.620 spirits And cigars responsibly Until next week cheers Cheers guys. 01:24:16.222 --> 01:24:19.722 Bourbon Beards and Belvedere is produced by Adam Bolden, Paul Rousseau, 01:24:19.822 --> 01:24:23.782 and Jerry Ullman. Edited by Jerry Ullman. Music by Ryan Johnson. 01:24:24.082 --> 01:24:27.802 You can find all of our links on our website at bourbonbeardsandbelvedere.com 01:24:27.802 --> 01:24:32.122 and at beacons.ai forward slash bourbonbeardsandbelvedere. 01:24:32.262 --> 01:24:35.742 As always, enjoy your bourbon and cigars responsibly. Cheers.

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