Pod 623 : Spring Quotes

February 16, 2026

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Isn't Baseball wonderful. The Baltimore Orioles are back in Sarasota and everything seems right with the world. We have a new pitcher, spring training quotes, everyone outside of Jackson Holliday is feeling great. We talk Chris Bassitt, Orioles Rotation, Bullpen, and bats. Plus we talk what could possibly go wrong

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WEBVTT 00:17.733 --> 00:20.404 [SPEAKER_00]: Three, six, we on this, so true. 00:20.584 --> 00:26.106 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome to Birdland. 00:35.401 --> 00:41.896 [SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Baltimore sports fans of all ages, welcome to section 336 next generation of Baltimore sports talk. 00:42.558 --> 00:46.206 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm your engineering host, Matt Sproka, as always joined by the Bucknubber Jazz Rooka. 00:46.407 --> 00:52.802 [SPEAKER_03]: Matt, I think this officially kicks off our 15th season covering the Orioles on section 336. 00:52.782 --> 01:07.203 [SPEAKER_03]: You threw me off when you you can't change your hat right from pre-show to when we go I did I went from no hat to I went put on order hat because I want to make sure if people are flipping by YouTube or anything They know it's an Orioles podcast. 01:07.223 --> 01:07.523 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 01:07.663 --> 01:09.866 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, very much without put on an Orioles hat. 01:10.227 --> 01:15.735 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know what my rose had on I You know, it's it's 15 neat seasons. 01:15.795 --> 01:18.739 [SPEAKER_03]: I figured it's time that we start out not caring 01:19.276 --> 01:19.657 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:20.418 --> 01:21.740 [SPEAKER_03]: And Josh there in the people watch. 01:22.221 --> 01:29.994 [SPEAKER_02]: And Josh in 15 seasons, I think we can make a good argument that this is the best off season. 01:31.056 --> 01:32.318 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe undoubtedly, I guess. 01:32.679 --> 01:35.364 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's in and out of season. 01:35.384 --> 01:36.005 [SPEAKER_02]: We've ever covered. 01:36.866 --> 01:37.207 [SPEAKER_03]: It is. 01:37.527 --> 01:40.913 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why it drives me crazy when people are so negative about the team. 01:41.888 --> 01:45.615 [SPEAKER_03]: When I look on Twitter and, you know, what's someone from the banner or put out? 01:45.695 --> 01:49.182 [SPEAKER_03]: What's your predictions of the team and people will just complain? 01:49.483 --> 01:52.368 [SPEAKER_03]: This team will never be there until Elijah's gone. 01:52.669 --> 01:53.811 [SPEAKER_03]: This team will never be there. 01:53.911 --> 01:55.034 [SPEAKER_03]: This team will never be that. 01:55.054 --> 01:59.863 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the best off season since we've been doing this podcast. 02:00.046 --> 02:14.362 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but don't you blame that a little bit on Mike Elias set in the bar so high, both with signing Peter Lanzo, so quickly in the off season and talking about how, you know, he still has enough money to add a big arm. 02:14.382 --> 02:17.465 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and I think they really did go hard at Ranger Swear as I didn't work out. 02:17.986 --> 02:20.148 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's part of, they don't fall. 02:20.228 --> 02:21.009 [SPEAKER_02]: This is lift off. 02:21.430 --> 02:25.074 [SPEAKER_02]: He's at the expectations high and, and, but also the elite pitcher. 02:25.574 --> 02:29.158 [SPEAKER_03]: But also, I think the expectations, 02:30.286 --> 02:33.329 [SPEAKER_03]: I think they, we should be going in with high expectations. 02:34.070 --> 02:38.835 [SPEAKER_03]: I know we won't do our bold predictions for a couple more weeks, but yeah, my expectations are high. 02:39.375 --> 02:40.356 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, but I'm not talking about the things. 02:40.376 --> 02:43.339 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about the offices and the expectations of their office numbers so high. 02:43.759 --> 02:43.940 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 02:43.960 --> 02:45.361 [SPEAKER_02]: The alarms are signing and all the talk. 02:45.381 --> 02:46.322 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of big talk. 02:46.642 --> 02:47.803 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and the numbers. 02:47.823 --> 02:50.987 [SPEAKER_02]: And how they were in every, right, they were in on an every for agent. 02:51.207 --> 02:57.373 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and they were in on every for agent because let's be honest, like the Orioles could use. 02:57.353 --> 02:59.676 [SPEAKER_03]: They could have used an ace in some regard. 02:59.997 --> 03:08.027 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not concerned about the pitching staff, but it seemed to go at the start of the off-season of, okay, we're going to get a new manager, and we're going to get an ace. 03:08.688 --> 03:09.329 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 03:09.349 --> 03:11.772 [SPEAKER_03]: And we didn't get that ace necessarily. 03:12.173 --> 03:13.254 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 03:13.274 --> 03:17.099 [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like Swarr is a guy who really missed out on, I know about that, it was last got off the board. 03:17.420 --> 03:18.541 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 03:18.561 --> 03:22.787 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe that I right there with you, that Ranger Swarr is who we wanted. 03:23.189 --> 03:23.509 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 03:24.070 --> 03:27.595 [SPEAKER_03]: But then I also do not want to give him the deal he got. 03:27.815 --> 03:28.877 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he had overpaid. 03:29.678 --> 03:37.208 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think if you look at this Josh, I think it really does the one-year deal to pass it. 03:38.109 --> 03:39.411 [SPEAKER_02]: We need in the basket signing. 03:39.771 --> 03:42.455 [SPEAKER_02]: But also leaves you really flexible for next year. 03:42.515 --> 03:46.641 [SPEAKER_02]: So we have several one-year deals that come off the book this year. 03:47.021 --> 03:52.909 [SPEAKER_02]: And so if we wanted to pursue a high praise for the age and next year next to the next season, 03:52.889 --> 03:53.450 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. 03:54.091 --> 03:54.451 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. 03:54.551 --> 03:58.556 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, and I wouldn't want to sign like Valdez. 03:58.877 --> 04:02.161 [SPEAKER_02]: If Elias thought he wasn't the guy and there was something better next year. 04:02.181 --> 04:06.026 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to hamstring us next year because we just had to do something. 04:06.186 --> 04:10.192 [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want to spend all that money and overpay on a picture. 04:11.113 --> 04:15.198 [SPEAKER_03]: And then there's a chance he could be your third guy or your fourth guy. 04:15.459 --> 04:18.863 [SPEAKER_03]: Like there's some, our rotation is interesting enough. 04:19.467 --> 04:27.641 [SPEAKER_03]: that we've got two guys that legit could be have chance of being the ace and even in the Zion conversation. 04:27.882 --> 04:30.446 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my, there you are, he's getting that board predictions. 04:31.428 --> 04:32.750 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not getting to board predictions. 04:32.850 --> 04:38.320 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying I am so intrigued that the type of season that Braddish and Rogers will have. 04:39.194 --> 04:49.688 [SPEAKER_03]: that I almost feel like sign overpaying for an ace would have diminished some of that and could have led to some frustration of now we're stuck with this guy for five years. 04:51.451 --> 04:51.571 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 04:52.853 --> 04:57.739 [SPEAKER_03]: And we also quickly forget about Shane Bazz, who I'm also pretty excited about. 04:57.839 --> 05:01.705 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he has potential bastards in an eater. 05:01.985 --> 05:03.567 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm happy, I'm really happy with our rotation. 05:03.587 --> 05:05.610 [SPEAKER_03]: You want to talk about the bastard? 05:05.630 --> 05:06.571 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 05:06.591 --> 05:07.092 [SPEAKER_03]: Fine. 05:07.072 --> 05:09.057 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're I'm also joined here by Southwest. 05:09.077 --> 05:09.959 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a little irritated man. 05:09.979 --> 05:15.092 [SPEAKER_02]: I think because these these headphones are not quality headphones And he's having trouble keeping the headphones in his ear. 05:15.453 --> 05:24.034 [SPEAKER_02]: It's these really oddly weird shapes big old circular ones Yeah, your holes up to small for He's got to get some of the overheads over ears 05:24.166 --> 05:25.008 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know. 05:25.068 --> 05:28.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I need to get like a splitter for my laptop. 05:28.836 --> 05:30.039 [SPEAKER_02]: We can have two sets of headphones. 05:30.059 --> 05:30.700 [SPEAKER_02]: That's about, I need it. 05:30.720 --> 05:32.584 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we can get, we can do that for you. 05:32.604 --> 05:39.519 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, but, but not, I'd judge the, I take a fence at your comment about the ending theater for Chris Bassett. 05:39.760 --> 05:40.441 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't think he is? 05:40.501 --> 05:42.105 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 05:42.125 --> 05:44.470 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you, what do you see Chris Bassett as? 05:44.450 --> 05:45.391 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know Josh. 05:45.432 --> 05:59.113 [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at his numbers in the past since 2021, his year A, right, here's his year A, since 2021, 3.933, 3.72, 4.21, 4.28, 3.84, just Mr. 05:59.133 --> 06:03.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Consistency has wars in the twos every year. 06:03.159 --> 06:07.246 [SPEAKER_02]: Also brings world series experience, going back with the Toronto. 06:07.586 --> 06:08.668 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, last year. 06:08.648 --> 06:09.769 [SPEAKER_02]: So I see him. 06:09.829 --> 06:19.000 [SPEAKER_02]: I saw someone comparing him to like the Chris Morton signing, but I think that's ridiculous I think he is He is the jet Rotate a legit arm in a rotation. 06:19.421 --> 06:31.855 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but don't put down my in an either comment because last year He pitched a hundred and seventy in and twenty twenty four hundred and seventy one two hundred one eighty one one fifty seven the guy pitches 06:31.835 --> 06:34.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll use you in people's settings either, though. 06:34.139 --> 06:36.482 [SPEAKER_02]: There's an implication that he's not very good at pitching. 06:36.663 --> 06:38.966 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's a good pitcher. 06:39.307 --> 06:40.409 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not putting them down. 06:40.549 --> 06:43.153 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm putting, we talk a lot about this rotation. 06:43.213 --> 06:50.886 [SPEAKER_03]: And we talk a lot about how if your pitchers can get to the six through six, man, it makes it an easy job for your bullpen. 06:51.166 --> 06:57.336 [SPEAKER_03]: It takes a lot of stress off your bullpen to then be able to have all that flexibility for seven, eight, nine. 06:57.316 --> 07:03.403 [SPEAKER_03]: And he is the type of guy who can and Shane Baz can and Trevor Rogers can and call Braddish can. 07:04.024 --> 07:05.546 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's that's pretty exciting. 07:06.868 --> 07:07.468 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 07:07.488 --> 07:13.996 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you, um, and the, the Vludes shifted him to the bullpen, I think in the playoffs. 07:14.797 --> 07:20.865 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, wait, wait, wait, where do you see him being penciled in in terms of this, uh, starting five? 07:21.826 --> 07:23.728 [SPEAKER_03]: I, I think he's 07:24.282 --> 07:24.944 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really. 07:25.164 --> 07:26.267 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm about to pass. 07:26.988 --> 07:32.622 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm putting him above bars because of the proven after bars because of the proven track record. 07:33.323 --> 07:34.867 [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't looked at lefty-righty. 07:35.168 --> 07:36.250 [SPEAKER_03]: Are they all righty? 07:37.512 --> 07:44.800 [SPEAKER_03]: But, I mean, not Rogers, but let's see, Braddish is right handed, right? 07:45.220 --> 07:46.942 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's right handed, and Bass is right handed. 07:47.502 --> 07:48.584 [SPEAKER_03]: And Rogers is left. 07:48.964 --> 07:49.725 [SPEAKER_02]: Rogers is left. 07:49.985 --> 07:53.709 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so E. Yeah, and James Wright, if you're still like, it's great. 07:53.809 --> 07:54.370 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, James Wright. 07:54.470 --> 07:55.411 [SPEAKER_02]: Which I guess is right. 07:56.011 --> 07:56.812 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then. 07:57.253 --> 08:02.158 [SPEAKER_03]: So you're already mixing it up by one, two, three, going right left, right. 08:02.278 --> 08:06.102 [SPEAKER_03]: So you're forcing the opponent to mix up their lineup for game two. 08:06.082 --> 08:09.486 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, Josh is already breaking down lineups. 08:09.566 --> 08:10.607 [SPEAKER_03]: Love that. 08:10.627 --> 08:15.352 [SPEAKER_03]: And I say that with puttin' Rogers in the middle that we're really, I think Rogers is your number one. 08:16.013 --> 08:17.674 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 08:17.694 --> 08:19.256 [SPEAKER_02]: But, yeah. 08:19.336 --> 08:25.422 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you looked at numbers and I know we said, and I was like, okay, you got to try and sign Zach Allen now. 08:25.863 --> 08:28.346 [SPEAKER_02]: He's the only option he and I want to learn there. 08:28.986 --> 08:29.407 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 08:29.427 --> 08:30.688 [SPEAKER_03]: But this is a better option. 08:30.854 --> 08:33.159 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you break it down, look at his numbers. 08:33.460 --> 08:35.545 [SPEAKER_02]: It just seems like a really good fit for the Orioles. 08:36.246 --> 08:37.990 [SPEAKER_02]: It seems to address the real need. 08:38.612 --> 08:42.400 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, he comes out the book next year, so it doesn't hamstring you what you want to do next to off season. 08:42.421 --> 08:44.425 [SPEAKER_02]: So I just feel really good about the signing. 08:44.886 --> 08:45.207 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 08:45.227 --> 08:46.490 [SPEAKER_03]: 31 starts last year. 08:46.510 --> 08:48.474 [SPEAKER_03]: 2.1 war. 08:48.655 --> 08:49.376 [SPEAKER_03]: That's amazing. 08:49.597 --> 08:50.078 [SPEAKER_03]: That's great. 08:50.243 --> 08:53.309 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, over two war each and the last what five, six seasons. 08:53.329 --> 08:53.930 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's just Mr. 08:54.070 --> 08:54.772 [SPEAKER_02]: Consistency. 08:55.133 --> 08:55.794 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 08:55.814 --> 08:59.501 [SPEAKER_02]: The only concern, the only red flag is the age, right? 08:59.521 --> 09:02.707 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't know at some point you're going to fall off. 09:02.747 --> 09:03.769 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the one you're deal. 09:04.210 --> 09:04.651 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 09:04.671 --> 09:10.663 [SPEAKER_03]: That is why it's one year, which does give us a lot of flexibility, which for a young team, that's a good thing to have. 09:11.464 --> 09:11.745 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 09:12.535 --> 09:15.640 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, we're sticking with talking about the rotation here. 09:16.782 --> 09:20.728 [SPEAKER_02]: ESPN announced, Bustroni does the top 10 each position. 09:20.828 --> 09:21.029 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 09:21.890 --> 09:31.506 [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of anticipation about the pitching, top 10 starting pitchers, who's going to go number one, school bull, or skins. 09:31.886 --> 09:32.888 [SPEAKER_02]: He went with school bull. 09:33.930 --> 09:36.133 [SPEAKER_02]: I read the article, Josh, I read the top 10. 09:36.233 --> 09:38.577 [SPEAKER_02]: Then he gets to mention several names. 09:38.557 --> 09:50.493 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm including a former oral Kevin Gaussman in the in the that we've got honorable mentions Okay, no mansion of any oral starts starting with pictures He is a bus. 09:50.513 --> 09:53.241 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a funny guy because Grace Rodriguez 09:54.115 --> 09:56.458 [SPEAKER_03]: he was not a fan of until he got traded. 09:56.859 --> 10:00.444 [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like, oh, the Orioles blew it, let them go with this guy. 10:00.464 --> 10:02.948 [SPEAKER_03]: And I've heard him bring up Grace and on his podcast. 10:03.228 --> 10:05.852 [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard him mention Grace in so many times as his off season. 10:06.413 --> 10:07.835 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just don't really understand. 10:07.875 --> 10:08.796 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a guy. 10:08.816 --> 10:16.748 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if we're basing things up our own run average, I know he's in a huge strike out guy, but it seems like not giving up Ron's or not giving them of hits or walks. 10:16.728 --> 10:25.560 [SPEAKER_02]: is kind of the point of the game, and Trevor Rogers was better than Scooble, with better than Skeen, with better than Maunch, with the R-A. 10:25.960 --> 10:29.445 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I get to the argument, like he only pitched a hundred of things. 10:29.465 --> 10:40.980 [SPEAKER_02]: That's why he's not, he's not the top of the qualifying players, and I get he doesn't have a huge track record, and I want to put Rodgers as the number one pitcher in baseball. 10:40.960 --> 10:44.645 [SPEAKER_02]: But I can't believe he can't even make an honorable mentions less, seems a bit. 10:44.925 --> 10:47.248 [SPEAKER_02]: I even did one of those like, am I missing this? 10:47.268 --> 10:51.974 [SPEAKER_02]: That's like control-fined looking for the Rogers name? 10:51.994 --> 10:53.076 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's a missus somewhere. 10:53.557 --> 10:55.679 [SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be the number of inns pitch. 10:55.739 --> 11:01.988 [SPEAKER_03]: It's the fact that Scooball got close to 200 inns, and he's had a 100 inns out of him. 11:02.008 --> 11:06.654 [SPEAKER_02]: If I think going into the season, Josh, who I want in terms of my rotation? 11:07.014 --> 11:09.938 [SPEAKER_03]: But one thing you know is with pitchers, especially, 11:09.918 --> 11:13.303 [SPEAKER_03]: everyone loves to praise this and bring up the sophomore slot. 11:13.963 --> 11:16.627 [SPEAKER_03]: They love to not believe the guy can do it again. 11:16.827 --> 11:19.211 [SPEAKER_02]: When he was good and then he was bad for a while then good again. 11:19.251 --> 11:20.653 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's a little bit different of situation. 11:21.554 --> 11:21.814 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe. 11:23.136 --> 11:23.576 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 11:23.757 --> 11:25.399 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's Buster. 11:25.439 --> 11:26.721 [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be down on the Orioles. 11:26.741 --> 11:27.322 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not. 11:27.342 --> 11:28.463 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not just Buster. 11:28.663 --> 11:33.129 [SPEAKER_02]: If you hold just baseball people, give you your top 10 starters. 11:33.510 --> 11:35.973 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Rogers would be in any of those names. 11:36.814 --> 11:38.777 [SPEAKER_02]: Even though he was last year, he was the best. 11:39.567 --> 11:41.986 [SPEAKER_02]: He would have been inside young content if he had more innings. 11:42.006 --> 11:45.190 [SPEAKER_02]: Now he doesn't have a ton of strikeouts, people love strikeouts for some reason. 11:45.288 --> 11:56.542 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but, but, to, to me, if I'm starting a rotation, if I'm starting a, and I'm biased, but if I'm starting a baseball team, uh, and I need a rotation, I'm probably going with just straight starting pitchers. 11:56.682 --> 11:59.906 [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, I go with schoolable and skiing, summer one, and maybe I'm a moto number three. 12:00.407 --> 12:04.992 [SPEAKER_02]: But right after that, into the discussion, I'm going with Rogers as the fourth best pitcher in baseball. 12:05.353 --> 12:07.135 [SPEAKER_02]: Not based on last year. 12:07.155 --> 12:08.757 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe that would happen this year. 12:08.977 --> 12:11.160 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe that Rogers can do that. 12:11.444 --> 12:16.051 [SPEAKER_03]: but I can understand people outside didn't really pay attention enough. 12:16.331 --> 12:23.662 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, didn't pay attention because he was good when the Orioles were bad in that kind of portion of the season and it was only 100 things. 12:23.742 --> 12:24.823 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just don't think people know. 12:25.304 --> 12:27.347 [SPEAKER_02]: Just that the people don't know how good that was last year. 12:27.688 --> 12:29.050 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's going to come out this year. 12:29.070 --> 12:30.452 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to get to bold predictions. 12:30.512 --> 12:34.798 [SPEAKER_02]: We're hinting at it, but I think it's going to come back this year and put it all together for a second. 12:34.818 --> 12:39.645 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why, and that's why I say Trevor Rogers should be the opening day picture. 12:39.625 --> 12:44.150 [SPEAKER_03]: because I see it really doesn't matter who's one, who's two. 12:44.751 --> 12:46.853 [SPEAKER_03]: It's an honor to pitch open in day. 12:47.413 --> 12:51.658 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that he deserves that honor based on what he did last year. 12:52.699 --> 12:55.442 [SPEAKER_03]: Bradish is, Bradish could be your ace. 12:55.462 --> 12:56.764 [SPEAKER_03]: Bradish could be your top pitcher. 12:57.064 --> 12:57.324 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. 12:58.065 --> 12:59.827 [SPEAKER_03]: But Roger proved it last year. 13:00.327 --> 13:01.649 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think deserves that slot. 13:02.630 --> 13:02.730 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 13:04.043 --> 13:06.890 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree and I think he's the best picture on the staff. 13:07.011 --> 13:19.723 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I also think it's why game two is a Braddish give away Is it I believe that's what someone's tell me yesterday was hey the only thing that bothers me about Trevor Rogers 13:20.176 --> 13:21.579 [SPEAKER_02]: is there was a quote. 13:22.120 --> 13:23.623 [SPEAKER_02]: I got some screen training quotes. 13:23.643 --> 13:24.385 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get you later. 13:24.405 --> 13:25.888 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've got to hear what's from training quotes. 13:25.908 --> 13:28.753 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, now today we have everyone down in Sarasota. 13:28.854 --> 13:35.046 [SPEAKER_03]: Even though most of the position players showed up last week, they're all officially there today. 13:35.313 --> 13:40.066 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Trevor Rogers is on the final year of his contract. 13:40.227 --> 13:41.851 [SPEAKER_02]: His contract is done after this year. 13:41.931 --> 13:51.077 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and someone asked him, you know, have like, like, what, what, what, what about extension talks with Orals? 13:51.277 --> 13:53.201 [SPEAKER_02]: And his quote was Josh, I couldn't believe this. 13:53.481 --> 13:57.048 [SPEAKER_02]: His quote was, if they come up, it would be great. 13:57.890 --> 13:59.192 [SPEAKER_02]: This organization has helped me a lot. 13:59.332 --> 14:00.735 [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, it's something I'm not going to control. 14:01.156 --> 14:04.943 [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully, as a season goes on, and maybe this off season will have some conversations. 14:06.045 --> 14:08.851 [SPEAKER_02]: It's somewhere I want to be if it happens, it happens. 14:08.871 --> 14:12.137 [SPEAKER_02]: You're telling me that point of view, there's been no conversations. 14:13.214 --> 14:14.275 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that a little bit wild? 14:14.576 --> 14:20.983 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we'll get to this later about some other topics where there's things now where I'm like, wait, Mike Elias has some work on that all off season. 14:21.543 --> 14:22.765 [SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't made these phone calls. 14:23.185 --> 14:28.671 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I could see like Trevor Rogers countering himself to have another girl like last year and put himself as an elite pitcher. 14:29.172 --> 14:30.754 [SPEAKER_02]: But did he have conversations? 14:31.194 --> 14:35.839 [SPEAKER_03]: If I'm Mike Elias, I'm trying to say, hey, we like what you did last year. 14:36.300 --> 14:39.103 [SPEAKER_03]: How about we lock you in for another three to five years? 14:39.185 --> 14:42.228 [SPEAKER_03]: Low bar being like hey, we don't know if you'll prove it or not. 14:42.469 --> 14:50.938 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're now on the ESPN top 10 list Right, so like industry the industry doesn't see you as top 10 But only doesn't even know who you are so here. 14:51.178 --> 14:52.139 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me sign you now. 14:52.860 --> 14:56.544 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, it happens to be a cheap deal Just like I got basalo cheap. 14:56.784 --> 15:03.471 [SPEAKER_02]: Why you don't need a cheap deal for Trevor Rogers How come like I would rather pay Trevor Rogers than Valdez? 15:03.451 --> 15:05.375 [SPEAKER_02]: Then from above about that. 15:05.957 --> 15:07.981 [SPEAKER_03]: If he can really do what he did last year. 15:09.244 --> 15:09.444 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 15:09.685 --> 15:11.308 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I guess maybe that's the hold-up. 15:11.388 --> 15:16.460 [SPEAKER_03]: The hold-up is if he does do that this year, he can quickly be priced out of the Oreo. 15:16.520 --> 15:18.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's not getting from above. 15:18.143 --> 15:18.604 [SPEAKER_02]: That's numbers. 15:18.685 --> 15:19.767 [SPEAKER_02]: He's getting much higher than that. 15:19.987 --> 15:20.228 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 15:21.090 --> 15:21.190 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 15:21.170 --> 15:26.641 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's where, yeah, if I was my device, I would have had this conversation already, and that's an odd one. 15:26.941 --> 15:33.775 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it is not because I could see, okay, like maybe they maybe like a three-year deal, it doesn't interest Trevor Rogers, because he's trying to cash in big next year. 15:34.216 --> 15:35.579 [SPEAKER_02]: But how do you not have the conversation? 15:35.599 --> 15:36.681 [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I don't understand. 15:37.021 --> 15:37.322 [SPEAKER_02]: I- 15:37.994 --> 15:39.216 [SPEAKER_02]: How has there been no talks? 15:39.236 --> 15:42.480 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe the agent has talked to you, maybe the agent has talked to you, maybe the agent has talked to you. 15:42.500 --> 15:44.623 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I just find that hard to believe. 15:44.843 --> 15:46.325 [SPEAKER_02]: No, there was no connections. 15:46.625 --> 15:47.747 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree, that's an odd quote. 15:47.907 --> 15:51.632 [SPEAKER_02]: Because that, in terms of who this off season, I'd be looking at extensions. 15:52.293 --> 15:55.597 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Trevor Rogers, because he's up, he would be the top of my list. 15:56.378 --> 16:01.605 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he is because he's the only guy who's running out this year, right, of the future. 16:01.703 --> 16:03.685 [SPEAKER_02]: The of the meaningful guys. 16:03.705 --> 16:05.628 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're not we're not a gunner yet. 16:06.269 --> 16:07.550 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're not a holiday yet. 16:07.831 --> 16:08.932 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're not even at Westburg. 16:09.172 --> 16:09.413 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 16:09.433 --> 16:09.613 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 16:10.013 --> 16:11.195 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'd be looking at him. 16:11.375 --> 16:15.360 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be Considering a guy like beavers to try to get cheap again. 16:16.361 --> 16:17.843 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I did basalo. 16:17.863 --> 16:18.083 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 16:19.165 --> 16:19.725 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, no. 16:20.486 --> 16:25.633 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, maybe it's because Michaelis has been on the phone trying to get another picture of the entire offseason. 16:26.554 --> 16:30.799 [SPEAKER_03]: But it seems to me like maybe he signed Peter Lanzo and then he took two months off. 16:31.454 --> 16:38.167 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and said I'll see you in January, yeah, yeah, I just and again, I'm not even mad. 16:38.187 --> 16:38.849 [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't sign them. 16:38.909 --> 16:40.792 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just I'm I'm perplexed. 16:40.812 --> 16:41.814 [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't have the conversation. 16:42.155 --> 16:43.097 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I agree. 16:43.137 --> 16:44.099 [SPEAKER_03]: That's an odd statement. 16:45.061 --> 16:52.315 [SPEAKER_03]: And also I will Saturday, March 28th is the Carl Brattish Jersey hoodie giveaway for game two. 16:52.565 --> 16:55.729 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, yeah, it's all so no just no one get hurt. 16:55.749 --> 16:56.570 [SPEAKER_02]: So we can make this happen. 16:56.610 --> 16:57.912 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it might be hey. 16:58.333 --> 17:03.620 [SPEAKER_03]: That's forced Craig's hand to put Braddish as the second picture. 17:06.584 --> 17:10.329 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as long as no one gets hurt speaking of injuries. 17:10.529 --> 17:12.151 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess the other big news to come out. 17:12.171 --> 17:15.636 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess this is, I mean, this is, I don't know, maybe as big as the pass it's finding. 17:16.021 --> 17:23.171 [SPEAKER_02]: is the injury to Jackson Holiday broken Hammett bone, in his hand, and then there's popular injury. 17:23.432 --> 17:27.558 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think there were three guys in the past week with broken Hammett bones. 17:27.878 --> 17:30.402 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, superstars, Corbyn Carroll, friends of the indoor. 17:30.622 --> 17:32.665 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's a bone like right here in your hand. 17:32.705 --> 17:35.188 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess it's a little tiny little bone. 17:35.469 --> 17:37.772 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a tiny little bone, but it's in the annoyance. 17:37.792 --> 17:40.156 [SPEAKER_03]: I saw he was getting the cast off like today. 17:40.176 --> 17:45.403 [SPEAKER_03]: So I only needed the cast for a little bit, but still we'll miss a couple weeks of the regular season. 17:45.856 --> 17:57.003 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they said it's, I mean, each injury I was reading about this is different effects people differently, but they said, um, based on other people's experience about three weeks before you can start to swing again. 17:57.063 --> 17:57.263 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 17:57.704 --> 17:58.787 [SPEAKER_02]: And then who knows after that? 17:59.449 --> 18:01.153 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're going to slow play as much as possible. 18:01.594 --> 18:03.358 [SPEAKER_02]: You wanted that bow to be strong. 18:03.338 --> 18:14.013 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's the part I will never understand with major league baseball players is why like all right in three weeks Second swing again But I'm not ready to play because I need three more weeks of practice swings. 18:14.494 --> 18:20.723 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, especially when it's just a little bone your hands I like you have to it's getting in physical shape again Right, and it's like 18:20.703 --> 18:42.323 [SPEAKER_03]: run and come on stuff you you spent if you're you're Jackson Howard that you spent all off season working out at your home you're saying because you're going to have three weeks of you can't hit for your hand-to-heal suddenly you can't now hit majorly hidden your time ends that far off yeah I don't believe it yeah well it will see what happens but I you certainly don't want to rush it back you know well that's why we say the guy 18:42.387 --> 18:43.849 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, Josh. 18:43.869 --> 18:44.250 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I know. 18:44.270 --> 18:45.412 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you with the time before? 18:45.872 --> 18:46.373 [SPEAKER_02]: He signed. 18:46.573 --> 18:49.758 [SPEAKER_02]: We traded for Blaze Alexander the next day. 18:49.998 --> 18:50.259 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 18:50.559 --> 18:51.981 [SPEAKER_02]: He breaks his hammock bomb. 18:52.001 --> 18:59.653 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's, I had to go, I, I'm sure like you did went and backtracked because you're like, did the tape go and on that we didn't know about. 18:59.633 --> 19:00.695 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but, but it wasn't. 19:00.715 --> 19:02.177 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just a point of eye. 19:02.197 --> 19:03.960 [SPEAKER_02]: It's conceding into the future, I guess. 19:05.823 --> 19:09.849 [SPEAKER_02]: But hopefully, just to hiccup and it sounds like we have some depth in the end field. 19:10.110 --> 19:11.232 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's a place. 19:11.953 --> 19:13.816 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, is that? 19:15.318 --> 19:25.354 [SPEAKER_02]: I think one of the biggest question marks things I'm watching in spring training Josh is it seems like our best, certainly our best offensive in field. 19:25.334 --> 19:25.775 [SPEAKER_03]: it is. 19:26.135 --> 19:28.258 [SPEAKER_02]: What can I go ahead? 19:28.398 --> 19:34.667 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, while you're talking about the infield and spring training, can I tell you one of the spring training quotes that I shook my head up? 19:35.027 --> 19:36.369 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, because I got my top three. 19:36.790 --> 19:38.092 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, it's me training quotes. 19:38.212 --> 19:41.637 [SPEAKER_03]: Is one of your top three I got top four is one of your top three about Kobe Mayo. 19:43.299 --> 19:44.300 [SPEAKER_03]: The Kobe Mayo quote. 19:44.541 --> 19:45.182 [SPEAKER_02]: No, this is good. 19:45.462 --> 19:52.692 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, the Kobe Mayo quote was was we will tell him where we want him to play when he shows up. 19:53.836 --> 20:00.403 [SPEAKER_03]: that he came to spring training, not sure where they were going to try to play him at third base at outfield at whatever. 20:01.464 --> 20:08.011 [SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't you, like as soon as you signed Peter Lanzo called up Kobe and said, obviously we're going to be moving you from first base. 20:09.032 --> 20:16.140 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd like you to prepare mentally, prepare however, that you could play in the outfield, that you could play third base, that you could play second base. 20:16.661 --> 20:21.666 [SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't you have this conversation 20:21.646 --> 20:25.491 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's so many Josh, because I think there's so many outside factors. 20:25.531 --> 20:30.437 [SPEAKER_02]: First of all, I think Mike Elias may be thought, oh, he won't even be here comes from training. 20:30.457 --> 20:32.139 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's the conversation I don't even have. 20:32.340 --> 20:40.811 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's the other thing I want to get to is, yeah, yesterday I believe the story came out of the Orioles are trying to trade Kobe Mayo and Ryan Mount Castle. 20:41.732 --> 20:43.474 [SPEAKER_03]: Haven't they been trying to do this for three months? 20:44.135 --> 20:46.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I assume sense the moment they signed Petalans. 20:46.178 --> 20:47.059 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want them out. 20:47.079 --> 20:47.459 [SPEAKER_03]: So, too. 20:47.920 --> 20:49.662 [SPEAKER_03]: Why is it a new story yesterday? 20:50.097 --> 21:16.932 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it seems like we can we can kind of debate that but I think one of the reasons where you didn't know what to tell Mayo is because I think you didn't know because like like one of the biggest questions marks for me is now he's taking reps at third base obviously yes and to me the best set up for the infield now would be Westburg at second 21:16.912 --> 21:17.352 [SPEAKER_03]: Correct. 21:17.553 --> 21:20.916 [SPEAKER_02]: But that assumes that Mayo can hold his own third base. 21:21.216 --> 21:21.557 [SPEAKER_03]: Correct. 21:21.957 --> 21:30.065 [SPEAKER_02]: And if he can, it feels like he can stay around because if there's an injury to any member of the infield, right? 21:30.165 --> 21:35.530 [SPEAKER_02]: If there's a, if Gunner gets hurt, when now holiday can switch over and West Brigadier switch over. 21:35.851 --> 21:36.071 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 21:36.131 --> 21:38.473 [SPEAKER_02]: And Mayo go to third, right? 21:38.753 --> 21:38.914 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 21:39.014 --> 21:46.581 [SPEAKER_03]: It shows you the ability to keep a big bat like Mayo on your bench to mix in to DH and give people different. 21:46.561 --> 21:48.925 [SPEAKER_03]: Flexibility to take days off. 21:48.945 --> 21:52.250 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and you can still find a way to use them productively. 21:52.430 --> 21:56.417 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because the flexibility of Westburg and how the day it does. 21:56.497 --> 22:03.328 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, if I was mayo on my own, as soon as it's time for the lawns though, I'd start working out at third base. 22:03.348 --> 22:05.151 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'd start doing it on my own. 22:05.592 --> 22:10.179 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I just think it's funny that they didn't tell him until he showed up in Sarasota. 22:10.199 --> 22:13.885 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I wonder Josh, if holiday didn't get hurt. 22:14.506 --> 22:18.071 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we're having a different conversation, maybe it's playing more in left field or right field. 22:18.972 --> 22:19.593 [SPEAKER_02]: In spring training. 22:20.034 --> 22:20.554 [SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps. 22:20.755 --> 22:22.738 [SPEAKER_02]: But the injury, all of a sudden, no, we've been through it. 22:22.758 --> 22:23.919 [SPEAKER_02]: Or as we did in the month of the season. 22:25.401 --> 22:25.762 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe. 22:27.504 --> 22:27.805 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe. 22:28.065 --> 22:28.446 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 22:28.866 --> 22:31.310 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, it was just a weird quote for it. 22:31.330 --> 22:32.351 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where you're going to play. 22:32.892 --> 22:33.533 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 22:33.553 --> 22:36.657 [SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, it's special because you know this, it means year round with these guys. 22:36.697 --> 22:38.039 [SPEAKER_02]: They're always on training. 22:38.339 --> 22:39.962 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what are you doing with Ryan Mount Castle? 22:40.202 --> 22:41.724 [SPEAKER_03]: Just saying, hang out at your hotel room. 22:41.924 --> 22:43.787 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let you know what we mail you out. 22:44.172 --> 22:59.311 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it seems like Mount Castle more than Mayo, like Mount Castle can't play third, like if he can't play first, and Alonzo plays first every day, barring on Alonzo injury, there's no role for Mount Castle on this team. 22:59.551 --> 23:04.277 [SPEAKER_03]: No, and how are you, and can you really carry Mount Castle on your bench? 23:04.697 --> 23:05.438 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so. 23:05.857 --> 23:13.527 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, and you can't play DH because you want the flexibility there with Masalo and, um, um, you know, arrangement to have that DH spot. 23:13.747 --> 23:13.968 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 23:14.068 --> 23:14.348 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:14.368 --> 23:15.810 [SPEAKER_02]: He can't be your everyday DH. 23:16.511 --> 23:16.731 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 23:17.232 --> 23:19.415 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to keep them to play an occasional DH? 23:19.715 --> 23:19.915 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 23:19.935 --> 23:21.317 [SPEAKER_02]: It makes no sense. 23:21.337 --> 23:21.477 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:21.517 --> 23:21.898 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't. 23:22.118 --> 23:22.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 23:22.398 --> 23:23.500 [SPEAKER_03]: You've peed a little time off. 23:23.760 --> 23:30.068 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't make any sense, especially when you can mix Adly or Bassauro into that first base role as well or Kobe. 23:30.930 --> 23:31.290 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:31.456 --> 23:34.760 [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, given this past couple seasons, I don't think anybody wants him now. 23:35.341 --> 23:35.601 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 23:35.621 --> 23:40.186 [SPEAKER_03]: So at what point is it just, sorry, we're going to let you go. 23:41.027 --> 23:48.316 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the, well, the weird thing is, we had a chance not to, we had a chance to not tend to not do the arbitration thing. 23:48.376 --> 23:48.536 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 23:48.556 --> 23:51.700 [SPEAKER_02]: And not paying him, but we chose to pay him and do the arbitration thing. 23:51.720 --> 23:53.402 [SPEAKER_02]: Because we thought we could trade him, cheap. 23:54.423 --> 23:55.404 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, yeah, I guess so. 23:55.484 --> 23:57.026 [SPEAKER_02]: Or, you know, contingency plan. 23:57.426 --> 23:59.809 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like, why does no one want him? 24:00.920 --> 24:02.322 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's enormous pesky up seasons. 24:02.402 --> 24:19.060 [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm a team like the Nationals or the White Sox, or another kind of bottom feeder team who has room at DH or first base, I'm taking a fly on Ryan Matkassel because you could have a bounce back here and then you could trade on and like why not. 24:19.120 --> 24:21.482 [SPEAKER_02]: He's an upgrade defensively if you can play first base. 24:21.502 --> 24:26.708 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the problem is... Kenny bounce back because last season, he was below replacement level. 24:26.924 --> 24:30.372 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, and the power, the power is just gone. 24:30.854 --> 24:32.478 [SPEAKER_02]: And how you're going to have a first space mode, no power? 24:32.778 --> 24:36.929 [SPEAKER_03]: 6.7 million with a 7.5 option. 24:37.731 --> 24:38.452 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, club option. 24:38.653 --> 24:40.818 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think the most likely option is he is released. 24:41.500 --> 24:44.848 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he'll pick up by another team on minimum wage and we'll be paying up. 24:44.828 --> 25:09.351 [SPEAKER_03]: that's that's exactly that's what I assume and I don't know I assume you just cut them and it's it sucks to be in that position from Mount Castle yeah but um it is what it is yeah but I think they're gonna hold on them as long as they can just in case you know an injury yeah yeah but they can't put them at Norfolk right no I I wonder they they could put mayo at Norfolk 25:09.331 --> 25:23.893 [SPEAKER_02]: And I wonder if, you know, if he doesn't work out at third base, if they say, okay, go play third base every day and, or go play left field right field every day and maybe we can, you know, also that's also a part of the Mayo working out at third base means he's more attractive to teams. 25:24.674 --> 25:30.382 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if it work, if he looks good, yeah, if he looks fine at third base, then it's suddenly like, oh, well, we could use a third baseman. 25:31.043 --> 25:33.487 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I believe he told you guy with, with pop. 25:34.629 --> 25:34.849 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 25:35.352 --> 25:35.732 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 25:36.754 --> 25:38.196 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see there. 25:38.256 --> 25:42.922 [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know, like, like, what are those deeds that they would trade mail for? 25:43.322 --> 25:44.444 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 25:44.464 --> 25:48.929 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't envision what they even traded for cash consideration. 25:49.210 --> 25:52.194 [SPEAKER_03]: No, that would be a Mount Castle move would be cash. 25:52.614 --> 25:53.235 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 25:54.216 --> 25:54.557 [SPEAKER_03]: Depth. 25:56.259 --> 26:00.204 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, maybe bullpen help, but I think we're okay there, too. 26:00.725 --> 26:00.865 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 26:00.945 --> 26:01.866 [SPEAKER_03]: Out and out filter. 26:02.774 --> 26:03.796 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know. 26:04.016 --> 26:05.478 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, at this point, it'd be depth. 26:06.039 --> 26:08.243 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this point would be pretty much set. 26:08.944 --> 26:10.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I wouldn't trade them for depth or prospects. 26:11.027 --> 26:15.595 [SPEAKER_02]: So this point, I think he stays put right until at least a trade deadline. 26:15.615 --> 26:18.239 [SPEAKER_02]: And then if he's playing with a trade deadline at Norfolk or wherever. 26:18.740 --> 26:23.347 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you need that, I think the more piece of the starter that's when you could pull the trigger mail. 26:23.728 --> 26:29.237 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think you keep mail, especially with the holiday injury. 26:31.090 --> 26:35.858 [SPEAKER_03]: And, yeah, Mount Castle is just, do you have no choice, unfortunately? 26:37.287 --> 26:38.333 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree. 26:40.405 --> 26:41.847 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, all right. 26:41.867 --> 26:44.151 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, so you want to get to your quotes. 26:44.331 --> 26:46.254 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's get to my favorite since I brought up one. 26:46.715 --> 26:50.220 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're top three quote from Sarasoda. 26:50.480 --> 27:01.958 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have this before is any of these the picture of Dave Rubinstein and it says Dave Rubinstein is set up behind home plate during bat and practice reading a book. 27:01.938 --> 27:03.740 [SPEAKER_03]: And you just read it at a book. 27:05.382 --> 27:13.453 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, listen, isn't, does it, doesn't say something that Rubenstein is investing this team that is going to like, opening sprinting workouts? 27:13.553 --> 27:14.154 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, totally. 27:14.174 --> 27:14.935 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, he cares. 27:15.155 --> 27:15.736 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's be real. 27:16.016 --> 27:17.158 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not with the other. 27:17.598 --> 27:18.499 [SPEAKER_03]: I would do the same thing. 27:19.460 --> 27:20.141 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd go down there. 27:20.201 --> 27:21.223 [SPEAKER_03]: Say hi to the guys. 27:21.683 --> 27:21.904 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 27:22.504 --> 27:26.790 [SPEAKER_03]: As, and, and sit back and read a book and watch the occasional hits. 27:26.890 --> 27:28.452 [SPEAKER_03]: Look up when something sounds big. 27:29.866 --> 27:31.268 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, really, I like it. 27:31.789 --> 27:33.431 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's a baseball move. 27:33.671 --> 27:41.782 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but when you get these owners with a lot of money, sometimes you're not to be cynical, but sometimes you want to resist like just like another business transaction. 27:42.443 --> 27:42.863 [SPEAKER_02]: Or do you do that? 27:42.883 --> 27:44.085 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, he's a fan. 27:44.365 --> 27:46.108 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's a fan, he's a fan, he's a fan. 27:47.229 --> 27:47.690 [SPEAKER_02]: That's good. 27:47.710 --> 27:52.196 [SPEAKER_02]: So my first quote is from we just talked about him, Blaze, Alexander, okay. 27:52.216 --> 27:56.061 [SPEAKER_02]: He said, I don't know if he saw this quote, he says it looks like a football team in there. 27:56.622 --> 27:58.945 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's huge, it's good stuff. 27:59.532 --> 28:00.534 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, I like it. 28:00.955 --> 28:02.678 [SPEAKER_02]: You might think I'm going to try to do a kneeler. 28:02.878 --> 28:04.601 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to think the Tyler kneels big. 28:04.702 --> 28:05.744 [SPEAKER_03]: Peter Lanzo's big. 28:05.964 --> 28:06.966 [SPEAKER_02]: Peter Lanzo's a big guy too. 28:07.387 --> 28:09.611 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah. 28:09.631 --> 28:12.376 [SPEAKER_03]: Adly Gunner, they, they bigger than Blaze. 28:12.797 --> 28:15.642 [SPEAKER_02]: I think everyone probably worked out a lot in the offseason. 28:15.662 --> 28:16.063 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 28:16.083 --> 28:16.644 [SPEAKER_02]: Got big. 28:17.044 --> 28:18.587 [SPEAKER_02]: We're, I like it. 28:18.607 --> 28:21.633 [SPEAKER_02]: Gone are the days of Fat Tom and we're, we're big and strong in there. 28:22.434 --> 28:22.755 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 28:23.090 --> 28:24.493 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, here's one. 28:24.733 --> 28:25.936 [SPEAKER_02]: So this would this one. 28:25.976 --> 28:27.539 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about this one, Josh. 28:27.560 --> 28:28.020 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 28:28.041 --> 28:31.087 [SPEAKER_02]: Because this we is another, uh, a mystery. 28:31.107 --> 28:32.490 [SPEAKER_02]: This is another mystery one. 28:33.432 --> 28:33.632 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay. 28:34.274 --> 28:35.937 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you see this has to encourage that quote? 28:36.699 --> 28:37.200 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 28:38.463 --> 28:41.367 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, now here's the quote. 28:41.388 --> 28:43.190 [SPEAKER_02]: They asked them someone asked them. 28:43.651 --> 28:45.734 [SPEAKER_02]: What can you share about what you went through last year? 28:45.754 --> 28:58.033 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and cursed at said at this time I'm probably not going to share too much kind of like the teams already said in the future that something definitely will get into cover the whole topic and all that Yes, what happened last year? 28:58.093 --> 28:58.975 [SPEAKER_02]: Why can't you talk about it? 28:58.995 --> 29:00.437 [SPEAKER_02]: Why can't you talk about it later? 29:00.417 --> 29:19.171 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, I swear that three years ago, four years ago, when Kirsta was in the miners, after the COVID year, it came out that he got has myocarditis, right, which people had talked about about the being a side effect they'll get back to the vaccine with his heart. 29:19.271 --> 29:19.512 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 29:19.692 --> 29:21.295 [SPEAKER_03]: I swear that was a story. 29:21.747 --> 29:22.832 [SPEAKER_03]: The Orioles have scrubbed it. 29:23.555 --> 29:25.022 [SPEAKER_03]: What has happened? 29:25.062 --> 29:26.167 [SPEAKER_03]: We're not talking about that. 29:26.288 --> 29:27.996 [SPEAKER_03]: No, you think this is a vaccine. 29:28.016 --> 29:29.241 [SPEAKER_03]: They call it all the time. 29:29.281 --> 29:30.728 [SPEAKER_03]: They call it fatigue. 29:30.961 --> 29:31.321 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 29:31.342 --> 29:32.503 [SPEAKER_03]: Now the other thing, all right. 29:32.523 --> 29:34.606 [SPEAKER_03]: So let's say it's not the myocarditis. 29:35.427 --> 29:39.573 [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe that's too much of a hot button item, political thing. 29:39.593 --> 29:40.734 [SPEAKER_03]: So they're not so all right. 29:40.754 --> 29:42.016 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that what else could it be? 29:43.117 --> 29:46.522 [SPEAKER_03]: It leads people to think is what there's something mentally going on. 29:47.583 --> 29:51.268 [SPEAKER_03]: And psychologically, because that's something you want to talk about. 29:51.709 --> 29:54.032 [SPEAKER_03]: The third option I have is 29:54.012 --> 30:08.325 [SPEAKER_03]: He got hit in the head and was like, like multiple times that it could be like a Brian Roberts type situation where he kind of went downhill after sliding in the second base wrong and a concussion issue. 30:09.419 --> 30:18.915 [SPEAKER_03]: But I still go with it's very weird how I feel like I read a story about my occurreditis and now nobody talks about it and says, and it's all fatigue. 30:19.736 --> 30:24.765 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, a basketball connection here because in the, I follow the Hawks now. 30:24.805 --> 30:26.287 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big, I'm a big Hawke Watcher. 30:26.788 --> 30:32.237 [SPEAKER_02]: And we traded at the Deadline Christophe Prasingis and we signed them Josh in the off season. 30:32.740 --> 30:35.507 [SPEAKER_02]: And then when the season started, he just never played. 30:35.928 --> 30:37.111 [SPEAKER_02]: And so people are like, what's going on? 30:37.511 --> 30:41.962 [SPEAKER_02]: And it turned out no one knew when they signed them, but he has this thing called POTS. 30:42.022 --> 30:43.526 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're like, I don't know what this is. 30:43.546 --> 30:44.107 [SPEAKER_02]: POTS? 30:44.127 --> 30:45.410 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 30:45.591 --> 30:46.353 [SPEAKER_01]: I've heard POTS. 30:46.934 --> 30:49.260 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's a heart condition. 30:49.340 --> 30:49.821 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 30:49.801 --> 30:54.689 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's missed the majority of the season, but they didn't identify until the season started. 30:54.909 --> 30:58.595 [SPEAKER_02]: So I also wonder if it's, you know, there's a lot of mysterious things that happened to the body. 30:58.895 --> 31:00.357 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, haha, something that lingers. 31:00.398 --> 31:03.082 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think you would just be have it last year and fully recovered now. 31:03.482 --> 31:04.905 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be something that's always comes back. 31:04.925 --> 31:05.105 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 31:05.566 --> 31:05.766 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 31:05.786 --> 31:07.869 [SPEAKER_03]: So I went to Google when I typed in Curstead. 31:08.250 --> 31:09.011 [SPEAKER_03]: What's wrong with him? 31:09.532 --> 31:10.073 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 31:10.453 --> 31:17.344 [SPEAKER_03]: And Google came up with it and says that after signing with the Orioles in 2020, 31:18.370 --> 31:26.585 [SPEAKER_03]: he missed the entire 21 season, because after signing a viral infection caused myocarditis. 31:26.866 --> 31:28.589 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, but we're talking about 2024, 2024. 31:28.629 --> 31:30.613 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's 2021. 31:31.314 --> 31:32.617 [SPEAKER_03]: So what about 2025? 31:33.518 --> 31:41.273 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so then they said it was challenging time to return to play by 2022 to get his first home run. 31:41.405 --> 31:48.919 [SPEAKER_03]: And then in 2025, it came out that he was sidelined with a non-sports medical condition related to fatigue. 31:49.620 --> 31:49.901 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 31:51.183 --> 31:52.866 [SPEAKER_02]: So you think it's part still part of that market? 31:52.886 --> 31:58.857 [SPEAKER_03]: But this was treated and no one has confirmed that it is a return to the previous Myocarditis. 31:59.157 --> 32:00.419 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a mystery out there. 32:00.439 --> 32:02.022 [SPEAKER_02]: It's one day one day we'll uncover one day. 32:02.062 --> 32:06.791 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll hope right is memoir And at least Google is now let me know. 32:06.811 --> 32:08.715 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not crazy over the Maya credit us. 32:09.216 --> 32:15.107 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he does seem just I watch the interview with him And he does seem like a guy who's been humbled 32:15.087 --> 32:19.972 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was even though he thought, and people taught me he looks really good, he was like, yeah, yeah, it's just a few of that. 32:20.733 --> 32:21.013 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see. 32:21.093 --> 32:33.385 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but don't you love also his quote about being out at the holiday compound this off season and working with Jackson's dad to a Matt holiday to adjust his balance stance. 32:33.505 --> 32:36.808 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's adjusted his, his, his step a little bit. 32:36.828 --> 32:38.470 [SPEAKER_02]: So I like that swing. 32:38.710 --> 32:38.930 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:39.751 --> 32:41.553 [SPEAKER_02]: So certainly he's been put in the work. 32:41.573 --> 32:43.795 [SPEAKER_03]: So I hope he's in the outfield from the Orioles. 32:43.775 --> 32:45.157 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do too. 32:45.237 --> 32:45.717 [SPEAKER_02]: I do too. 32:45.738 --> 32:47.139 [SPEAKER_03]: I always like to kid. 32:47.159 --> 32:49.042 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to see it work. 32:49.062 --> 32:51.285 [SPEAKER_02]: Especially just his journey, you root for the kid. 32:51.685 --> 32:52.726 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 32:52.787 --> 32:59.335 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so here's another guy who's injured last year and here's the next two quotes. 32:59.355 --> 33:07.285 [SPEAKER_02]: I have two more quotes and they're just make me laugh because this is typical of every quote you hear in spring training. 33:07.265 --> 33:09.249 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so this is Zach Afflin. 33:09.790 --> 33:13.617 [SPEAKER_02]: He said his quote, the main goal was to go in there, feel how I think it off the field. 33:14.038 --> 33:14.619 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I did. 33:14.900 --> 33:17.004 [SPEAKER_02]: I probably threw like 20 pitches and thought awesome. 33:17.284 --> 33:18.467 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought really, really good. 33:18.907 --> 33:19.909 [SPEAKER_02]: So really encouraged. 33:21.172 --> 33:22.334 [SPEAKER_02]: This is 20 pitches. 33:22.835 --> 33:24.438 [SPEAKER_02]: Guys talking about how awesome he feels. 33:24.779 --> 33:27.484 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a nice awesome after 20 pitches. 33:27.464 --> 33:42.109 [SPEAKER_02]: And then my last quote, a similar quote, this from Jack's Holiday, Jack's Holiday, before he heard his hammock bone, he said, quote, I only had like five live at bats, but in those five live at bats, I felt pretty good. 33:43.211 --> 33:43.712 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 33:43.732 --> 33:46.356 [SPEAKER_02]: And who are five, five at bats? 33:46.376 --> 33:46.957 [SPEAKER_03]: And who was it? 33:47.018 --> 33:49.301 [SPEAKER_03]: So one of the, was it Bradish? 33:49.422 --> 33:52.527 [SPEAKER_03]: One of the pictures was taking credit for breaking the hand. 33:52.996 --> 33:53.477 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh really? 33:53.637 --> 33:54.840 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he's the one who did it. 33:55.882 --> 34:10.414 [SPEAKER_03]: I like the quote that came out from Zach Waffland where Chris Bassett texted him right after he was signed with the Orioles saying, let's go win a title and Fland responded with dude, you're going to love it here. 34:10.563 --> 34:11.164 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 34:11.184 --> 34:15.249 [SPEAKER_03]: So I like that this team like there's a lot of player texting. 34:15.289 --> 34:17.412 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, how holiday texted blaze like Xander. 34:17.452 --> 34:20.256 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right when blaze was was was traded. 34:20.476 --> 34:22.559 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of a lot of player texting. 34:22.779 --> 34:24.201 [SPEAKER_03]: Alonso texted everyone. 34:24.462 --> 34:24.682 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 34:24.802 --> 34:27.466 [SPEAKER_03]: About like going to war and that's when the bad or something. 34:27.766 --> 34:28.908 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it seems like a good clubhouse. 34:29.268 --> 34:30.610 [SPEAKER_03]: It does seem like a good clubhouse. 34:30.630 --> 34:31.411 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's exciting. 34:31.952 --> 34:32.132 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 34:35.470 --> 34:46.985 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, um, something else I want to get into isn't it nice also like the pictures coming out of Sarasota They're not overweight pictures No, but it looks like guys in good shape. 34:47.105 --> 34:48.447 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a football team out there, Janet. 34:48.467 --> 35:02.946 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, much of football players Well, we've got well, we've got the new 40 yards on our new spring complex how they we did it all and you see how they set They one field looks like a football field because they've got lines There's just a yard is this a new indoor facility? 35:02.926 --> 35:05.410 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, well, this is on the outdoor fields. 35:05.651 --> 35:13.525 [SPEAKER_03]: They read the outdoor fields as well, but the indoor field is apparently, the indoor facility is apparently like, has all the cameras and everything. 35:13.545 --> 35:14.306 [SPEAKER_03]: All the technologies. 35:14.386 --> 35:17.331 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's got all the tech to tell you exactly what you're doing wrong. 35:18.053 --> 35:21.539 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can analyze every movement of your body from the moment you walk in there. 35:21.779 --> 35:26.267 [SPEAKER_03]: And again, it's cool stuff because, forget the best. 35:26.247 --> 35:29.495 [SPEAKER_03]: Offseason the Orals have had sign-ins since we've been doing this podcast. 35:29.735 --> 35:41.843 [SPEAKER_02]: It's also like we're finally investing in modern technology Yeah, and new facilities Well, and the proofs in the pudding right like and I know the biggest criticism is totally fair on the Orals 35:41.823 --> 35:48.231 [SPEAKER_02]: is they haven't developed some of these young players the way you want them to be developed. 35:48.251 --> 35:49.433 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a fair criticism. 35:49.633 --> 35:55.440 [SPEAKER_02]: But then if you look at some of the improvement, some of these pictures have made from Batista, the Trevor Rogers. 35:56.141 --> 36:02.770 [SPEAKER_02]: And it just seems like if you want to get right, especially now how the world's going to invest in technology, like the world will seem to be in good place. 36:03.150 --> 36:04.973 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a, and you saw all the tax. 36:05.133 --> 36:07.916 [SPEAKER_02]: And it seems like a place players want to be in play. 36:07.936 --> 36:08.637 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's yeah. 36:08.657 --> 36:10.800 [SPEAKER_02]: Can only mean good things for free. 36:10.780 --> 36:16.408 [SPEAKER_03]: It was also a good sign to see how many people were in Sarasota last week, where they didn't have to be. 36:17.429 --> 36:17.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:18.010 --> 36:18.210 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:18.230 --> 36:19.612 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:19.632 --> 36:21.735 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's pretty typical now and all across the board. 36:21.835 --> 36:22.436 [SPEAKER_02]: Where is it? 36:22.737 --> 36:23.518 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone just comes back. 36:24.159 --> 36:25.080 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 36:25.100 --> 36:25.741 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's still. 36:26.222 --> 36:26.542 [SPEAKER_03]: It's good. 36:27.123 --> 36:27.343 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:27.363 --> 36:28.325 [SPEAKER_02]: It's beats the alternative. 36:28.865 --> 36:29.346 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. 36:30.541 --> 36:39.225 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I was doing this, you have read this book, I read this book a while ago called Atomic Habits, you familiar with this book James Boyd. 36:39.245 --> 36:41.431 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm very familiar with that book. 36:41.652 --> 36:43.698 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you've read it, why is he very familiar? 36:44.179 --> 36:44.861 [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't read it. 36:44.961 --> 36:46.305 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe it's in my household. 36:46.285 --> 36:47.789 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but I have not read it. 36:47.909 --> 36:49.273 [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the most public guy. 36:49.293 --> 36:50.998 [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the most popular habit. 36:51.178 --> 36:52.722 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's not there. 36:52.903 --> 36:55.810 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's that and he's got another one out now, too, right? 36:55.931 --> 36:56.793 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he does that enough. 36:56.813 --> 37:00.082 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, or it might not be him everyone who read a Thomas Cabot. 37:00.162 --> 37:02.809 [SPEAKER_03]: There's another book is that everyone's reading now 37:02.789 --> 37:06.275 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm on familiar with that on the book, but I read time and comments. 37:06.355 --> 37:21.861 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I do this activity with my students too Because we talk about habits with my students, particularly focusing on reading habits, but We do the I do this activity with my students and I thought we could do with the oils and it's like He calls it James clear calls that are pre-mortem 37:22.600 --> 37:36.016 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where you say, if this thing that you wanted to do, you know, a month in the future, if it didn't work out, like if you didn't succeed in this habit formation, what went wrong. 37:36.577 --> 37:43.586 [SPEAKER_02]: And so like before it even goes wrong, you anticipate what could go wrong to make this habit not come true. 37:44.026 --> 37:47.711 [SPEAKER_02]: And so Josh, what I want to know, looking at the world's reasons. 37:47.751 --> 37:48.912 [SPEAKER_03]: Let them. 37:48.892 --> 37:52.015 [SPEAKER_03]: They let the theory is the file is the other book everyone. 37:52.035 --> 37:52.356 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right. 37:52.536 --> 38:04.067 [SPEAKER_02]: I have to check that out So if you would have taken the orders, you know, and let's say the orials for a 2026 When 78 games Yeah, 77 games. 38:04.568 --> 38:05.209 [SPEAKER_02]: What went wrong? 38:05.509 --> 38:06.850 [SPEAKER_02]: What went wrong with the orals? 38:06.890 --> 38:10.974 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that could cause them not to because I Mean we'll get the blood predictions. 38:10.994 --> 38:12.796 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we both think Thor is gonna be good this year. 38:12.977 --> 38:15.439 [SPEAKER_02]: We are so if they're not good 38:15.706 --> 38:16.427 [SPEAKER_03]: What went wrong? 38:16.507 --> 38:16.987 [SPEAKER_03]: What went wrong? 38:17.328 --> 38:19.490 [SPEAKER_02]: Injuries or something else? 38:19.510 --> 38:20.491 [SPEAKER_02]: What's most likely here? 38:21.032 --> 38:24.536 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so well, injuries at that point is most likely. 38:24.616 --> 38:29.201 [SPEAKER_03]: But if you want to roll injuries out and talk about philosophy or a player performance? 38:29.241 --> 38:31.403 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I would say philosophy. 38:31.803 --> 38:36.028 [SPEAKER_03]: I say we're a 78 win team if we only go for the long ball. 38:36.388 --> 38:37.770 [SPEAKER_03]: That's been our mistake in the past. 38:38.390 --> 38:42.675 [SPEAKER_03]: And when we are our power heavy team, if we go just for long ball, 38:42.655 --> 39:07.482 [SPEAKER_03]: And don't try to like get on base that could make things go wrong I see so if you look at some stats like strikeout numbers maybe Yeah, what we do with one of the cards it's going to be on base percentage if all those are our lack of the or else have a poor habit of trying to go all or nothing And trying to just win games with the long ball and if that yeah strikeouts lead that's where I would say we go wrong if I'm avoiding injury 39:07.951 --> 39:08.432 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 39:08.452 --> 39:10.756 [SPEAKER_02]: And so you're going mostly offense there too. 39:11.817 --> 39:17.366 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you think if things go wrong, it's most likely it'd be more likely the things that go wrong with the offensive side of things. 39:17.447 --> 39:17.727 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 39:17.807 --> 39:21.774 [SPEAKER_03]: And I based that on that I think we have more depth in pitching. 39:22.395 --> 39:28.244 [SPEAKER_03]: And I based that on, I think our bigger problem last year was offense over pitching. 39:28.264 --> 39:32.271 [SPEAKER_03]: I felt like pitching 39:32.673 --> 39:32.994 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 39:33.454 --> 39:42.952 [SPEAKER_02]: And so if that happens, Josh, if that happens, I think I would be surprised if the person that fault is Peter Lanzo, right, or TEMS. 39:42.972 --> 39:50.466 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, or I'm sorry, or I, or the, man, why I'm like the new guy we got from the angels for a grace from the Regas. 39:51.048 --> 39:51.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Ward. 39:51.689 --> 39:52.069 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what. 39:52.090 --> 39:52.671 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know what. 39:53.172 --> 39:54.254 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know what's going there. 39:54.314 --> 39:55.035 [SPEAKER_02]: TEMS are, um, 39:55.015 --> 39:59.225 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but I like I think those are proven commodities. 39:59.366 --> 40:09.330 [SPEAKER_02]: I think if that happens, it'll mean that holiday beavers, causers, these younger players once again did not take the step. 40:09.911 --> 40:12.197 [SPEAKER_03]: Boy, even Gunner doesn't bounce back. 40:12.177 --> 40:30.523 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, even Gunner doesn't bounce back like two years ago is a shame that I don't trust Adley at all So there's no concern for me if Adley doesn't bounce back because I don't expect him to Yeah, but but what if the salo doesn't turn it like does he doesn't put it get he has a rough rookie year like rookies have some time right that's gonna hurt 40:31.786 --> 40:43.949 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, great, where is that the same direction you would go with, like, hey, if everything fails, here's where it's kind of fail, or are you concerned, hey, our pitchers, we weren't good enough. 40:44.711 --> 40:53.187 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know what, like my biggest, and I know, like we, we've talked about certain pitchers, Josh, we never mentioned tire the wells. 40:53.251 --> 40:53.852 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 40:54.052 --> 40:56.596 [SPEAKER_02]: And so he could be a real good piece in the bullpen. 40:56.917 --> 41:00.763 [SPEAKER_02]: But to me, I mean, I envision a road without Felix Patista. 41:01.263 --> 41:11.139 [SPEAKER_02]: I envision a world where we're trying to figure out how to get into the ninth inning. 41:11.620 --> 41:12.100 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 41:12.120 --> 41:17.689 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I'm concerned like Kittridge, how much we have in Kittridge, but that's our big. 41:17.669 --> 41:19.211 [SPEAKER_02]: acquisition the bullpen, besides how's life? 41:19.611 --> 41:25.257 [SPEAKER_02]: So I could see us going into the fifth, sixth inning. 41:25.557 --> 41:27.118 [SPEAKER_02]: Our starters can't get deep enough. 41:27.619 --> 41:32.884 [SPEAKER_02]: How are we gonna get from the fifth, sixth, seventh inning into the eighth and ninth innings? 41:32.904 --> 41:34.145 [SPEAKER_02]: I think of Tyler Wallace moves there. 41:34.166 --> 41:35.167 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel better about that. 41:35.187 --> 41:36.848 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I think. 41:36.868 --> 41:43.655 [SPEAKER_02]: I think if we don't figure out the bullpen thing, because there's so many new pieces, and there's not a lot of proven pieces there. 41:44.196 --> 41:47.659 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually most concerned about the bullpen 41:47.639 --> 42:02.020 [SPEAKER_03]: At this point, I've put wells in the bullpen, and I love wells, but I'm so intrigued by him as a laden and guy, and I have enough guys in my rotation that I've mentally moved wells to the bullpen. 42:02.168 --> 42:15.405 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd be interested to say, I mean, that's another guy interested to see how they use, like with basset, how do they use povet, how do you use wells, do any of these guys become bullpen arms or, you know? 42:15.686 --> 42:19.210 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, look at our, look at our, look at ours, it's starting pitchers right now. 42:20.092 --> 42:27.742 [SPEAKER_03]: Rogers, Braddish, bass, basset, those are locks to be in the rotation. 42:28.282 --> 42:28.483 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:29.163 --> 42:30.545 [SPEAKER_03]: That leaves us one slot left. 42:30.946 --> 42:31.146 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 42:32.527 --> 42:34.613 [SPEAKER_03]: So we, and we still have Kramer. 42:34.994 --> 42:35.354 [SPEAKER_02]: Kramer. 42:35.896 --> 42:36.778 [SPEAKER_03]: Povich. 42:36.798 --> 42:37.280 [SPEAKER_02]: Povich. 42:37.440 --> 42:37.761 [SPEAKER_02]: Wells. 42:38.182 --> 42:39.425 [SPEAKER_02]: Wells. 42:39.445 --> 42:44.960 [SPEAKER_02]: And some of the chords on Povich, I think, Michael, I was pretty high on Povich. 42:45.441 --> 42:47.507 [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't figure out if that was a fake chord or not. 42:47.767 --> 42:48.409 [SPEAKER_02]: OK. 42:48.389 --> 42:54.438 [SPEAKER_03]: Because that was like kind of put out there before we signed Basset saying, hey, we're, we want to give ProVitch a slot. 42:54.659 --> 42:55.921 [SPEAKER_03]: It felt kind of fakeish. 42:56.361 --> 42:56.642 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:56.662 --> 42:57.743 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not sure if that was real. 42:58.164 --> 43:00.327 [SPEAKER_03]: But I think I enjoyed watching ProVitch. 43:00.548 --> 43:01.890 [SPEAKER_03]: I see big things for him. 43:02.310 --> 43:06.537 [SPEAKER_03]: But when I look at his rotation, I don't see cream or as a ballpen guy. 43:07.619 --> 43:08.119 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 43:08.139 --> 43:10.102 [SPEAKER_03]: I see wells as I can move to the ballpen. 43:10.223 --> 43:11.865 [SPEAKER_03]: I see ProVitch can move to the ballpen. 43:13.499 --> 43:15.787 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's how I see it going. 43:16.329 --> 43:22.210 [SPEAKER_03]: And I, J-based bars in the chat saying, Bass, it will be a ball pin arm for the playoffs. 43:23.084 --> 43:23.625 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 43:24.025 --> 43:24.265 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 43:24.465 --> 43:26.688 [SPEAKER_03]: Great for the, he did it great for the BlueJay's last year. 43:27.549 --> 43:27.649 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 43:27.669 --> 43:28.530 [SPEAKER_03]: He has low ability. 43:28.950 --> 43:32.114 [SPEAKER_02]: And, and that's, I mean, we saw that with the Dodgers, I mean, this is what you do. 43:32.174 --> 43:38.220 [SPEAKER_02]: You take your best guys, you have them start everybody else goes into the bullpen and help there. 43:38.300 --> 43:39.261 [SPEAKER_02]: So, exactly. 43:39.382 --> 43:42.104 [SPEAKER_02]: So, if you're concerned about the bullpen, part of that will be leading. 43:42.124 --> 43:46.469 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not paying layoffs, but I'm not concerned about the bullpen in the playoffs. 43:46.489 --> 43:50.053 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm concerned about the bullpen in the first 162 games. 43:51.822 --> 43:53.029 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine. 43:53.090 --> 43:58.845 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll deal with that when we get there and the fact that we're there means it'll be fine. 43:59.281 --> 44:05.589 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the other potential water card in this, I mean all the starting pitchers, I feel like starting pitchers are all kind of wild cards. 44:06.510 --> 44:10.515 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's Trevor Rogers going to be a number one elite, it's going to be number three. 44:10.695 --> 44:23.010 [SPEAKER_02]: I think a wide range of outcomes for Trevor Rogers, and outside of that, like innings, right, like he only threw 100 in his last year, Bradish, how many innings would Bradish throw this year, if they're just coming back late last year. 44:23.378 --> 44:26.983 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which gives you the flexibility to do a six-man rotation. 44:27.264 --> 44:32.992 [SPEAKER_03]: But then do you want to, how do you do a six-man when you've got guys like Bassett that you want to get in there? 44:33.292 --> 44:41.765 [SPEAKER_03]: More, as six-man gets tricky, but what you can do is give people a occasional extra days off and bump things around. 44:42.486 --> 44:42.746 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 44:43.547 --> 44:46.872 [SPEAKER_02]: And, but I think, I mean, the lies might be as high on. 44:47.172 --> 44:50.335 [SPEAKER_02]: on BAS from his quotes as he is on Rodgers and Browder. 44:50.355 --> 44:51.777 [SPEAKER_02]: So he likes to do a lot. 44:51.797 --> 44:52.738 [SPEAKER_03]: It does on that way. 44:53.459 --> 44:57.203 [SPEAKER_02]: I think BAS stuff wise has a potential to be pretty special. 44:58.024 --> 45:03.730 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's hard for me to envision like the Oros improving what the raise Duke is a raise always already do a really good job with pitchers. 45:04.270 --> 45:07.654 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think Elias is really excited about the potential for BAS too. 45:08.395 --> 45:11.298 [SPEAKER_03]: And so that can be a really strong potential one to death. 45:12.319 --> 45:16.183 [SPEAKER_03]: Last year, BAS started 31 games and pitched 166 units. 45:16.282 --> 45:22.329 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so he's full go to go, whatever, 180, 190, if he can, if he says healthy and could pitch a deep in our game. 45:22.350 --> 45:33.263 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, bad as his full go, Rogers has the ability, like one of the things about Rogers is he doesn't strike people out, but that means he can make soft contact, he doesn't walk guys. 45:33.623 --> 45:36.127 [SPEAKER_02]: So he, Rogers can go deeper into games. 45:37.068 --> 45:42.154 [SPEAKER_02]: So especially this year, now that hopefully he's not on any in his limited something. 45:42.134 --> 45:45.218 [SPEAKER_02]: Rogers has a potential to go deep in the game, strong fewer pictures. 45:45.619 --> 45:52.868 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why people aren't home out, Rogers though, is because he started 18 games. 45:53.589 --> 45:57.354 [SPEAKER_03]: He put off a 5.5 war and a 1.8 1 ERA. 45:57.795 --> 46:04.323 [SPEAKER_02]: That 5.5 war Josh is like fourth among pictures in baseball, who put 200 innings or through 170. 46:04.364 --> 46:11.533 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's exactly the problem is he only pitched, started 18 games, 100, 9 innings. 46:11.513 --> 46:33.268 [SPEAKER_02]: and for his career he's only pitched 500 in it's right yeah so yeah but you do the the post-mortem or the pre-mortem on the other side all it just feels like there's more possibilities things that could go right right like it's hard for me to vision 46:33.518 --> 46:40.587 [SPEAKER_02]: that both the Rogers falls off a cliff, Brad is not the same, bad as it worked out. 46:41.408 --> 46:44.432 [SPEAKER_02]: Bastet falls off a cliff at 30s because of his age. 46:44.572 --> 46:53.663 [SPEAKER_02]: It's harder for me to envision all this stuff going wrong, offensively, just adding, replacing Mount Castle with Alonzo. 46:54.103 --> 46:56.406 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, just that in itself is a huge upgrade. 46:56.426 --> 46:57.788 [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to me in vision. 46:57.768 --> 46:58.569 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. 46:58.790 --> 47:03.858 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why it's hard to paint this scenario for me where this team wins 75 games. 47:04.219 --> 47:08.687 [SPEAKER_02]: It's much more likely that I think this is, you know, 95 when team wins. 47:08.807 --> 47:18.243 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why my scenario is that team struggles and wins only 78 games because the offense performed like last year's offense, which is a problem. 47:19.385 --> 47:21.328 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's not a problem yet. 47:21.832 --> 47:23.493 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, it's not a problem. 47:23.513 --> 47:26.696 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I am, I say that we're playing a game. 47:26.856 --> 47:28.598 [SPEAKER_03]: I am still way high up on the Orioles. 47:29.318 --> 47:30.940 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 47:30.960 --> 47:31.580 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree, I agree. 47:31.600 --> 47:33.322 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we play in the toughest division of baseball. 47:34.162 --> 47:36.644 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's going to be a tough road in the L.E. 47:36.724 --> 47:38.726 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think everyone in the L.E. 47:38.846 --> 47:40.107 [SPEAKER_02]: besides the race got better. 47:40.968 --> 47:42.770 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we got better so everybody else. 47:42.850 --> 47:46.032 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's going to be a tough road to have fun. 47:46.613 --> 47:47.113 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 47:47.133 --> 47:51.737 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the red sauce had an outstanding offseason. 47:52.375 --> 48:02.187 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hey, um, uh, we probably don't have time to get into this any any thoughts on I mean there's going to be the new The new strike zone system where you can challenge us. 48:02.548 --> 48:03.469 [SPEAKER_02]: How does that work Josh? 48:03.509 --> 48:06.312 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think players will challenge the call? 48:06.332 --> 48:07.494 [SPEAKER_02]: Does that come from a dugout? 48:07.534 --> 48:08.295 [SPEAKER_02]: How's that gonna work now? 48:08.395 --> 48:16.425 [SPEAKER_03]: It comes from the player the player has well Yeah, the player has to tap his helmet or what yeah, but the player's gonna be allowed to tap their helmet 48:18.802 --> 48:23.086 [SPEAKER_02]: Like here's the thing, I think, I think, first of all, no, I would imagine you're going to look over. 48:23.646 --> 48:27.670 [SPEAKER_02]: No one's going to be able to tap, well, the hitter though, probably is the best idea of whether it's a monster strike. 48:27.990 --> 48:29.371 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think hitters will be different. 48:29.871 --> 48:30.892 [SPEAKER_02]: Gunner has a really good eye. 48:31.793 --> 48:33.975 [SPEAKER_02]: Gunner might be getting more leeway. 48:34.996 --> 48:39.780 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't anticipate, how is there challenging any monster strikes? 48:39.800 --> 48:40.721 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know. 48:40.981 --> 48:42.062 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see a play out. 48:42.302 --> 48:48.167 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm annoyed that they are removing the strikebox from television broadcast. 48:48.147 --> 48:57.099 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because they are concerned that you will see that they'll be able to see it in the dugout of interest and tell where the ball placed in the box. 48:57.119 --> 48:57.179 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh. 48:57.199 --> 49:00.904 [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, you thought about just putting a little bit of tape around your telegraph. 49:00.944 --> 49:04.769 [SPEAKER_03]: My TV around the box will be, you know what, let's start selling those. 49:05.430 --> 49:08.153 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll sell the boxes, you can put on your TV. 49:08.173 --> 49:10.036 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can make it a laser that you can adjust. 49:10.056 --> 49:11.758 [SPEAKER_03]: So they have this for, uh, 49:11.738 --> 49:22.081 [SPEAKER_03]: like Call of Duty and those shoot them fortnight, I guess would be the big one now, where people like buy little stickers that they put on their computer monitor for like where the center is, for where the gunfire is. 49:22.421 --> 49:24.686 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think we could do the same thing with the strike pass. 49:24.967 --> 49:25.789 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I like that. 49:25.949 --> 49:27.773 [SPEAKER_03]: I like that they have will sell something. 49:27.753 --> 49:36.568 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it seems like the idea is, if you only have a couple of challenges, no one's going to be challenging until late in the game. 49:37.049 --> 49:39.132 [SPEAKER_02]: I would war in really critical situations. 49:39.272 --> 49:40.675 [SPEAKER_03]: I think critical situations. 49:40.855 --> 49:43.039 [SPEAKER_03]: I think, yeah, I think critical situations. 49:43.059 --> 49:44.221 [SPEAKER_02]: Throw anything with no one on. 49:44.241 --> 49:45.763 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care how bad the call is. 49:45.943 --> 49:47.466 [SPEAKER_02]: You're probably not going to challenge us, yes. 49:47.446 --> 49:52.255 [SPEAKER_03]: And I like, I like this because I want the cause correct. 49:52.937 --> 49:53.037 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 49:53.057 --> 49:53.698 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I agree. 49:53.718 --> 49:55.983 [SPEAKER_02]: I saw, I also like the challenge because it's a strategy thing. 49:56.043 --> 49:56.864 [SPEAKER_02]: And I like the strategy. 49:57.145 --> 49:59.790 [SPEAKER_03]: I hate the challenge thing because I'm like, just get the ball right. 50:00.311 --> 50:02.856 [SPEAKER_03]: But this is a whole empire union type thing. 50:02.836 --> 50:07.790 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, I think it's entertainment thing for us and the other thing I think would be interesting to watch from strategy. 50:08.412 --> 50:17.858 [SPEAKER_02]: I think some players will have more leeway than other players and who has more leeway does, you know, what kind of leeway like post game, 50:17.838 --> 50:25.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Who has more leeway is player are some players in order because they have no ability to challenge or other players So you think it's gonna be like a captain type thing. 50:26.410 --> 50:26.751 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 50:26.831 --> 50:27.031 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 50:27.051 --> 50:27.332 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 50:27.352 --> 50:27.532 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 50:27.552 --> 50:30.596 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah I think I'll be I'll be I'll be he's gonna tell him. 50:30.957 --> 50:31.838 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, but you can challenge. 50:31.878 --> 50:42.293 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't challenge but I like the idea I enjoy the part of an entertainment of let's say Kirby Mayo has no leeway Yeah, but he challenges one anyway 50:42.273 --> 50:46.419 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, then I like the, hey, let's see him get yelled at when he goes back as a dog. 50:46.499 --> 50:48.461 [SPEAKER_03]: All it takes is a little jack. 50:48.481 --> 50:51.966 [SPEAKER_02]: We all take you're going to get you're going to get into it and just a task without thinking. 50:52.026 --> 50:55.111 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, You know, I don't want to like, I want to see how many take backs are our right. 50:55.151 --> 50:56.192 [SPEAKER_03]: And like, oh, no, no, I don't want to. 50:56.212 --> 51:00.218 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to remember when Chris Davis and Brandon hide almost got into it and dug out. 51:00.278 --> 51:02.020 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I hope we see some of that. 51:02.320 --> 51:02.640 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 51:03.201 --> 51:03.341 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 51:03.361 --> 51:05.985 [SPEAKER_02]: After that, Chris Davis might just go and tap every time, just stay away. 51:06.305 --> 51:12.473 [SPEAKER_03]: Or like, you know, could we maybe taps his head and Craig runs out of the, uh, just runs out of the dugout waving his arms. 51:12.493 --> 51:13.314 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no. 51:13.835 --> 51:14.576 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 51:14.696 --> 51:21.044 [SPEAKER_02]: And from the picture side of things, yes, I assume the captures will be making all the, all the decisions to challenge, not the pitch. 51:21.064 --> 51:21.505 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 51:21.525 --> 51:23.227 [SPEAKER_03]: I assume the pitch, the catcher flow. 51:23.247 --> 51:29.695 [SPEAKER_02]: And so this becomes another skill, like how, how good are you at knowing what a strike is compared to a ball is? 51:30.552 --> 51:32.957 [SPEAKER_02]: And I assume some catch will be better at this and other catchers. 51:34.781 --> 51:36.865 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's another thing I've been trying to watch. 51:36.885 --> 51:39.711 [SPEAKER_03]: I also want to know what it does to pitch framing. 51:41.054 --> 51:45.242 [SPEAKER_03]: Because pitch framing is all about grabbing the ball and moving it. 51:45.583 --> 51:47.868 [SPEAKER_03]: So you do it looks like it's in the strike zone. 51:48.549 --> 51:48.790 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 51:49.131 --> 51:51.295 [SPEAKER_03]: So now with the challenge system. 51:52.152 --> 51:56.739 [SPEAKER_03]: Pitch frame and could fold the umpire, but it can't fold the machine. 51:57.400 --> 51:57.860 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 51:57.880 --> 52:02.227 [SPEAKER_03]: So it has an oxygen more and more towards the machine, do we get rid of pitch frame in? 52:02.447 --> 52:02.647 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 52:02.707 --> 52:03.088 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 52:03.549 --> 52:05.872 [SPEAKER_02]: But could it also fold the pitcher? 52:06.092 --> 52:07.575 [SPEAKER_02]: And the pitcher's like, no, that was a strike. 52:07.775 --> 52:10.960 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm the guy saying, no, I just framed it really well that was a great thing. 52:11.020 --> 52:16.368 [SPEAKER_03]: Because that pitch frame is so fast, it'll totally fold the pitchers. 52:16.448 --> 52:16.708 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 52:16.688 --> 52:21.676 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, now I think, I mean, Pitchram is still matters now because there's only two challenges and I think I'm going to wait to challenge. 52:22.017 --> 52:26.744 [SPEAKER_03]: But when we get away from the challenge, you can just be like, let's listen to robots call it. 52:26.924 --> 52:34.116 [SPEAKER_02]: Which is another, I think, anti-robot argument because what could argue Pitchraming is a skill set, and maybe you want to keep that skill set alive. 52:34.236 --> 52:36.620 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I think I think it's a cheat in skill set. 52:36.840 --> 52:38.323 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like Pitchraming. 52:38.343 --> 52:38.924 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 52:39.024 --> 52:41.127 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like Pitchraming because 52:41.107 --> 52:43.950 [SPEAKER_03]: it didn't it doesn't mean the picture got the ball of the plate. 52:44.071 --> 52:45.692 [SPEAKER_03]: It means he didn't and you're lying. 52:46.193 --> 52:48.576 [SPEAKER_02]: You're literally stealing strikes or stealing balls. 52:48.616 --> 52:49.056 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 52:49.597 --> 52:55.284 [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't like pitch frame and where more empires in the field. 52:55.344 --> 52:56.806 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm good with pushing them. 52:58.868 --> 52:59.329 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that a thing? 52:59.389 --> 53:00.790 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no. 53:00.850 --> 53:03.053 [SPEAKER_03]: I just mean don't replace them with robots. 53:03.494 --> 53:03.874 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 53:04.985 --> 53:23.837 [SPEAKER_03]: why I don't know I don't have a good argument because I like some imperfections I like some it did he trapped the ball did he catch the ball I think that's our consistent I thought you wanted to get the call right I know you're right you're right it makes no sense my logic makes no sense 53:24.172 --> 53:28.297 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like it took till 2026 for football to find out where the first base. 53:28.497 --> 53:30.019 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, where the first downline is. 53:30.199 --> 53:35.245 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it took to 2027 for them to finally get the Super Bowl on the right week. 53:35.265 --> 53:35.885 [SPEAKER_03]: What does that mean? 53:35.905 --> 53:37.607 [SPEAKER_03]: Next year, it's moving back a week. 53:37.627 --> 53:43.234 [SPEAKER_03]: So it'll be on Valentine's Day, which means you will have the day after the Super Bowl off for President's Day. 53:43.634 --> 53:43.995 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really? 53:44.275 --> 53:44.896 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 53:44.916 --> 53:46.518 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a good idea, isn't it? 53:46.538 --> 53:47.399 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a great idea. 53:47.419 --> 53:48.580 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what took so long. 53:48.840 --> 53:50.202 [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, I have to, I had to work today. 53:50.742 --> 53:51.343 [SPEAKER_02]: So did I. 53:51.728 --> 54:12.589 [SPEAKER_02]: okay but schools were closed today well i teach at a school did your kids go to school now but i did oh there you go yeah all right which is really uh really a challenging because my wife and i both worked today and there's no school for the kids because it puts me in a tricky position yeah he's just got a lot of the doors and hope for the best yes uh 54:12.569 --> 54:18.857 [SPEAKER_02]: Three-year-old, I mean, a four-year-old, a six-year-old and a eight-year-old, let's say I got a question for you before we get out of here. 54:19.037 --> 54:20.579 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the question, let's get out of here. 54:21.080 --> 54:24.504 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, I just started watching the burbs on peacock, I need to go finish it. 54:24.624 --> 54:28.269 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, you want to talk about the burbs, because I watched the first episode of the burbs. 54:28.569 --> 54:32.595 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I don't know about you, but the burbs movie is one of my favorite movies. 54:32.815 --> 54:37.581 [SPEAKER_03]: One of the, like, yeah, it was one of top 10, all-time movie, a completely 54:39.232 --> 54:40.875 [SPEAKER_03]: How much of the show did you watch? 54:41.075 --> 54:43.600 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just on, we just watch the first two episodes. 54:43.620 --> 54:45.142 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, all right, well, you're more than me. 54:45.603 --> 54:49.490 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, um, this has nothing to do with the movie other than the font. 54:50.491 --> 54:51.413 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it doesn't. 54:51.774 --> 54:52.375 [SPEAKER_02]: It's got that. 54:52.635 --> 54:54.398 [SPEAKER_02]: Emily says, it's very strong. 54:55.200 --> 54:57.063 [SPEAKER_02]: What's that show, Desperate Housewives vibes? 54:57.283 --> 55:02.472 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, look, that I thought the same thing, and then I realized why. 55:02.452 --> 55:04.697 [SPEAKER_03]: It's the same street that's desperate housewives. 55:04.777 --> 55:05.659 [SPEAKER_03]: It's the same stuff. 55:06.039 --> 55:07.061 [SPEAKER_03]: It's literally the same stuff. 55:07.082 --> 55:10.348 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but it's not the same like neighborhood gossip all that stuff. 55:10.368 --> 55:15.138 [SPEAKER_02]: Which is part of the verb, but not yeah, but I thought it was going to be a little bit more like a remake. 55:15.178 --> 55:15.719 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not at all. 55:15.799 --> 55:16.300 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 55:16.320 --> 55:18.064 [SPEAKER_03]: It's also the house from the monsters. 55:18.584 --> 55:24.133 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, like they've reused this set, but it is, it's for the housewives, uh, court. 55:24.153 --> 55:25.576 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so, well, that makes more sense. 55:25.596 --> 55:27.880 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so you can imagine that to Emily and Samuel this smart. 55:28.200 --> 55:31.325 [SPEAKER_02]: I will tonight and the dialogue is, is dumb. 55:31.486 --> 55:34.050 [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, I don't even understand some of the stuff they say. 55:34.471 --> 55:38.918 [SPEAKER_03]: I watched the first episode and Kelly asked me how it was and I said, I don't know. 55:38.938 --> 55:41.723 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll have to watch it again with you because I don't know what was going on. 55:41.703 --> 55:45.928 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I'm I hate it though because I love the movie so much. 55:46.089 --> 55:49.653 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so I'm going to keep on watching But I'm a little bit watching, but I'm going to keep on watching. 55:49.673 --> 55:51.475 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what and that's where I'm at is hate watching. 55:51.996 --> 55:55.701 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all right So here's my question for you based on an email. 55:55.761 --> 56:05.533 [SPEAKER_03]: I just got okay, and you got to see me as well Okay, okay, so who is in if we plan the follow and trip? 56:06.492 --> 56:18.797 [SPEAKER_03]: Visit Baltimore Friday the Sunday July 24th, 25th, 26th, we go to the Oregon Games at Camdenyards on Friday the 24th and Saturday the 25th. 56:20.279 --> 56:31.565 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't we do whatever we want on Sunday, and then on Monday morning, we fly to Detroit and go to the Orioles at Detroit Games on Monday and Tuesday. 56:31.605 --> 56:32.928 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you'll travel with the team routine. 56:32.948 --> 56:39.503 [SPEAKER_03]: July 27th and 28th, and then we return home on Wednesday, the 29th. 56:42.048 --> 56:42.709 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you down? 56:44.471 --> 56:45.092 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, man. 56:45.293 --> 56:45.613 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 56:45.633 --> 56:53.624 [SPEAKER_02]: So, um, it's at the end of the summer, which I think works pretty well with my, um, with my schedule. 56:55.587 --> 57:00.073 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, because this class normally don't start to the beginning of August. 57:01.049 --> 57:07.101 [SPEAKER_03]: Because then the email ends with, once I get firm decisions, I will buy the tickets for the plane and the games. 57:07.662 --> 57:08.845 [SPEAKER_03]: Is this dad just email us? 57:09.606 --> 57:11.249 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, who else would be email on us? 57:11.329 --> 57:12.151 [SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about? 57:12.171 --> 57:14.776 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you checking your email while you're doing this this pot with me? 57:15.738 --> 57:19.125 [SPEAKER_03]: It's, I have multiple monitors, so my email is always open. 57:19.426 --> 57:30.448 [SPEAKER_03]: And I saw this one come in and it said baseball and I told Kelly asked me today if we were going to do in a guy's trip this summer and I told her it doesn't look like it just playing without it. 57:31.009 --> 57:32.051 [SPEAKER_03]: And then this email came in. 57:32.071 --> 57:33.334 [SPEAKER_03]: So I thought I'd ask you on the spot. 57:33.855 --> 57:34.095 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 57:34.977 --> 57:40.388 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I have to think about this one, but it's a little time together. 57:40.368 --> 57:48.585 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's a long time away from the wife and and kids So But sounds like a great trip. 57:48.866 --> 57:50.750 [SPEAKER_02]: I put some thought to this and sounds like it's gonna work well. 57:50.770 --> 57:51.772 [SPEAKER_02]: Put in my calendar, right? 57:53.596 --> 57:54.197 [SPEAKER_02]: And July. 57:54.237 --> 57:56.402 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know but 57:56.382 --> 58:02.311 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, and Detroit, actually, and I know we're trying to hit different stadiums and we haven't hit Detroit yet. 58:02.331 --> 58:06.237 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we haven't hit Detroit yet, but they're going to be really good this year. 58:07.098 --> 58:07.238 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 58:07.258 --> 58:12.607 [SPEAKER_02]: To see if our dads are schoolable pitch and they're clear favorites to win the division. 58:12.627 --> 58:16.132 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to be a good series, if that's fine. 58:16.152 --> 58:16.352 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 58:16.893 --> 58:22.862 [SPEAKER_03]: Now I wonder if that is that the, is that the, is that the, is that the, is that the, 58:24.682 --> 58:30.068 [SPEAKER_03]: That is the July 24th, and July 25th is the two Hawaiian shirt games. 58:31.730 --> 58:32.991 [SPEAKER_03]: There's two Hawaiian shirt games? 58:33.232 --> 58:34.994 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I'm Friday and Saturday. 58:35.574 --> 58:36.095 [SPEAKER_03]: I know. 58:36.115 --> 58:41.301 [SPEAKER_03]: And those were the ones where it was like, when I looked earlier, the upper deck, they were like 130 bucks. 58:41.501 --> 58:42.843 [SPEAKER_03]: Does, is that aware of that? 58:42.883 --> 58:43.683 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I do. 58:43.704 --> 58:44.324 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so. 58:44.404 --> 58:46.787 [SPEAKER_02]: I bet he has not looked at the deal, but I don't think so. 58:46.807 --> 58:47.047 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 58:47.528 --> 58:48.529 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see if through that. 58:48.709 --> 58:51.953 [SPEAKER_03]: That might make things up a little bit. 58:52.233 --> 58:53.374 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 58:53.394 --> 58:53.895 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 58:53.875 --> 58:54.596 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 58:54.616 --> 58:54.736 [SPEAKER_02]: Cool. 58:54.756 --> 58:55.557 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's get out of here. 58:55.758 --> 58:56.118 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 58:56.138 --> 58:57.420 [SPEAKER_02]: So I can part of my schedule. 58:58.161 --> 58:59.823 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bit of work. 58:59.843 --> 59:01.625 [SPEAKER_03]: Two shows back to back weeks. 59:02.166 --> 59:03.007 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's keep it going. 59:03.127 --> 59:04.129 [SPEAKER_02]: We're back on schedule. 59:04.189 --> 59:05.390 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm planning to talk about. 59:05.451 --> 59:09.676 [SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully we can talk more about when it when it when it when did the game start being played here. 59:10.658 --> 59:13.301 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe it's next I believe it's this weekend. 59:13.381 --> 59:15.364 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be able to talk about some games next time. 59:17.066 --> 59:17.407 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see. 59:17.507 --> 59:22.954 [SPEAKER_03]: Orioles from 59:23.238 --> 59:28.228 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I know they talked about trying to get some work into Friday February 20th. 59:29.150 --> 59:32.477 [SPEAKER_03]: This Friday The Orioles play the Yankees. 59:33.198 --> 59:33.439 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 59:33.940 --> 59:43.018 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we'll get some baseball to talk about Assuming one of those is on the MLB app Yeah, it's one of the things we can talk about another time. 59:43.359 --> 59:43.960 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, watch it. 59:43.980 --> 59:44.942 [SPEAKER_02]: How to watch these games 59:46.492 --> 59:48.837 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well Josh, thanks for this. 59:48.877 --> 59:58.358 [SPEAKER_02]: This is fun fun to talk Orioles and pumped about this season We're both any pretty optimistic about yeah, I'm so excited it's back and I can't wait Gotta get through this next month 59:59.266 --> 01:00:00.509 [SPEAKER_02]: Alright boys and girls, thanks for listening. 01:00:00.609 --> 01:00:04.717 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell your friends about the podcast, go write us a review, wherever you're listening. 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:06.962 [SPEAKER_02]: Follow us on social media. 01:00:07.202 --> 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