Speaker 1:
0:01
Hey, what's going on? Guys? Phil, here, before we get this episode started, I just wanted to let everybody know we recorded this before the announcement of Jurassic World Evolution 3. So when you go to this episode, keep that in mind. Of course, we did not know that the game was going to be coming so soon, so I just wanted to get on here and let you guys know that before you jump in to this episode about Jurassic World Evolution 2. So enjoy, and we appreciate you checking us out.
Speaker 2:
0:33
Welcome to your go-to source for entertainment. Wait for it Gaming.
Speaker 1:
0:38
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Speaker 2:
0:43
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Speaker 1:
1:03
so this is the Wait For it Podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast. I am your co-host, phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino.
Speaker 2:
1:12
And I'm your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and for this edition of the Game Room, where it Happens, we are going to take part in Jurassic June together. Who knew, I played a game that Phil probably never thought I would touch in Jurassic World Evolution 2.
Speaker 1:
1:31
Yeah, and the surprise was totally spoiled, because I was just on Discord and I was like why is he playing Jurassic World Evolution 2? And you're like, oh, that was supposed to be a surprise, whoops. So I knew very well ahead of time. But yeah, here we are in Jurassic June, which, if you're not familiar with the franchise, it's pretty self-exclamatory. It's a month in which the fan base takes to really celebrate the franchise and usually we get some sort of really neat announcement from from Jurassic. So this year we're recording this episode, you know, at the end of May. So, like this year, we are expecting, of course, a new trailer for Jurassic World Rebirth and then, hopefully, a trailer for Jurassic World Evolution three, which we'll talk about in the latter half of this episode. So welcome in. Thank you, guys, so much for joining us. If you want to learn or hear any more of our episodes where we talk about gaming and our gaming experiences, make sure you stick around till the end of the episode. We'll let you know. You can find that and everything else you need in order to keep up with the Wait For it podcast. But, eric, let's jump into the episode.
Speaker 1:
2:39
Jurassic World Evolution 2, if you're not familiar, is a park builder. So it is literally a game where you construct and put together your very own Jurassic World or Jurassic Park. The first game came out a couple of years ago actually 2018, and then the sequel came out in 2021. And there was like a little bit of controversy about that. We'll talk about all this here in just a moment. But, eric, I kind of want to get a sense of what your experience is with park builders in general. This game was made by frontier, who does planet coaster, planet zoo, those types of games, and it's kind of like a spiritual successor to the jurassic park operation genesis game that was out like early 2000s, which was also a park builder. So what's your experience with park builders in general, and did you play that old school Operation Genesis game?
Speaker 2:
3:33
Yeah, so I didn't play Operation Genesis, but my park builder experience when I was younger was Roller Coaster Tycoon. So that was like and I'm surprised to find out there's really not much outside of that. Like there is Zoo Tycoon, like you know you've got a couple of those. But Jurassic World Evolution is another big one. And then you mentioned, you know, genesis. Like after that there's a couple more you can name, but not really. And that's kind of surprising that this isn't a genre of gaming that hasn't like skyrocketed and I was just shocked to see that.
Speaker 2:
4:05
But Rollercoaster Tycoon I played the hell out of that when I was younger and when we were thinking of games to talk about for this particular series. You know it's to highlight things that we've played in the past and what we're playing now. And it was a really good correlation because, like, we're never going to do a Rollercoaster Tycoon episode. But I can absolutely bring some of my thoughts and memories about that game into the modern day experience of playing Jurassic World Evolution. And while I didn't play the first one, I was always intrigued, so jumping into the second one was pretty easy, you know, just from the jump.
Speaker 1:
4:42
Yeah, like you said, there really isn't a ton in this space. You know, you could kind of talk about adjacent like a sim city not necessarily anymore, but, um, what city skylines which is like the spiritual successor to sim city. Uh yeah, operation genesis was kind of where it all started. I never played that one either, and it came out in 2003 and by the time that I had actually learned it was a game, it was years later and it's. It was so expensive to get a copy of Operation Genesis. Now, of course, you could probably download it and play it on like an emulator or something along those lines, but people still do, or still did play this game all the way up until 2018 when we got Jurassic World Evolution 1, which is pretty crazy. I mean, that's all credited to the modding community, which I'll definitely talk about here in this episode. But yeah, that was.
Speaker 1:
5:34
I didn't have a whole lot of experience with that when I was younger either, played a little bit of Sim City, the Sims, kind of like dabbled in that, never played Roller Coaster, tycoon, but yeah, like you said, now it's, you know, it's Planet Zoo, it is Planet Coaster, and then there is a Prehistoric Kingdom which is kind of like a rival dinosaur park building game, which I'll also mention a little bit later. But, yeah, jurassic World Evolution 1, that game came out and it released on the PlayStation 4 um, yeah, playstation 4, xbox and, of course, pc. But I first played this on the PlayStation 4 and, eric you you can attest to this I has had sunk 40 hours into that game within two weeks because I was just playing through. Now this is when the first game did have much more of a story than Evolution 2 does, which you can barely call a story. To be honest with you, to get a little bit ahead of myself, but I sunk a lot of time in that and I found that that had been my peace game.
Speaker 1:
6:40
Else, on another screen, I would play jurassic world evolution and, honestly, replay it over and over again and just kind of let my imagination run wild and start building parks from there. So you said, you know, you kind of. Certainly you thought about jumping in the first one, but you finally did jump into the second one, which is much better than the first game. So how do you feel like this game is for new players? Because watching you on stream, I know there were definitely a lot of questions yeah, and that was me playing the so-called story.
Speaker 2:
7:10
So you know, I was thinking it would be a little bit more handholdy and that it would be a little bit more like guiding you if you were going the wrong way. It does not. It does not. It leaves you with uh you know some breadcrumbs and you kind of figure out the rest of the way.
Speaker 2:
7:26
And like I'm used to navigating the terrain of this type of game you know we talked about like a Sim City I also played like games like Command and Conquer, which obviously is a much different type of game. But the landscape of the game and like moving your mouse around, having to click things, select actions, like those things are not foreign to me. They're just not something that I'm recently used to being, as we've talked about before, like middle of the pack, console players for many, many years and staying away from those PC games until recently. But I had an early PC experience with some of these games and I thought it would be like muscle memory and it wasn't. It wasn't, it was quite overwhelming.
Speaker 2:
8:08
There is a lot we are going to talk about some of the features of the game and I'm curious whether or not you see them as a strength or a hindrance. So we'll kind of get into that. But I'm curious, Phil, you say that this game is better than the first one and I'm sure we'll link this in the show notes when you actually covered this on the podcast. But can you kind of summarize the first game experience overall when it comes to the first Jurassic World Evolution?
Speaker 1:
8:34
Yeah, the first one was just incredibly bare bones and that really reflected in a lot of the reviews from not only, you know, just regular critics but also critics within the Jurassic community. So there really wasn't a whole lot you could do. So one of the biggest criticisms for like Jurassic World Evolution one is whenever you finished a park or built a park, it really felt more so like an interactive, like screensaver, like the dinosaurs were all on a loop. There weren't really a whole lot of like attractions or decorations. Decorations is a big thing, like a lot of people within this community they want to build what feels like an actual living park, like you go there and visit, and everything was just very, very basic, like things that are really small that you wouldn't really think of if you're not into the park building games, but like things such as benches, trash cans, more decorations for like an enclosure to make it kind of feel like a real zoo. And I didn't really care too much about that stuff because, again, I'd never really played a game like this, I'd only seen Operation Genesis and for me I was like whatever there's dinosaurs in this. So they did gradually start adding stuff as it went on in this. So they did gradually start adding stuff as it went on.
Speaker 1:
9:48
The biggest thing with giraffe both of the evolution games is, of course, they are tied to a major franchise and their hands are tied with what they can and cannot do. So one of the biggest issues still to this day is like jurassic world like when you watch the movie you could tell it was a theme park, like there are resorts, there are, there's like a water park there, there's roller coasters, and that's not present still to this day in the game. So that's been one of the things that has still been missing and that's probably a universal decision. That's probably like they don't want that in the game. They want it to be. They want everything to be focused on. Like essentially, you know what we always talk about with jurassic selling toys. This in this case it's selling games. It's the exact same thing. So that was the frustrations when the first go around is like it was just very bare bones yeah, and I mean I could kind of understand that.
Speaker 2:
10:38
I think I'm curious, like what the gap is when we talk about bare bones and maybe too much going on when it comes to evolution two. But I will say that, like playing the story, I could tell there was a lot, of, a lot of options and I'm assuming that came based off of the criticism maybe, or the feedback and obvious enhancements you want to make to a second game. So things when it comes to the terrain and all of the things that you can do on the side, I'm curious, like when it comes to the terrain and all of the things that you can do on the side, I'm curious, like, when it comes to Evolution 2, what is it that, like you would say, is the best feature? And I'm kind of curious if we land on the same one when it comes to, like the best experience you're having with Jurassic World, evolution 2, maybe even compared to the first one, like what is that, that critical point for you?
Speaker 1:
11:28
to the first one. Like what is that that critical point for you? Oddly enough, the campaign is better in the first game than it is in the second, like I. The second one is a glorified tutorial that doesn't do a good job at teaching you how to play the game. Obviously, I went into it and I already knew the basics. I didn't really have to learn much. It's really a lot set. A lot of it is centered around the new mechanics.
Speaker 1:
11:46
So they added the lagoons in the second game. They did have an aviary in the first game, but it was on a loop, so you would just you would literally place one aviary and the dinosaurs would already be in there, the flying reptiles, whatever so, and there was only the pterodactyl. So they added the lagoon in the second game as well as the aviary, and made it a little bit more customizable. The story in the first game was much better because you were essentially rebuilding parks on each island, so each of the five deaths, and then they added Claire Sanctuary, so that they added the DLC to that. They added, like, a Dr Wu DLC as well. That's when you got the, the hybrids. So those were actually good and those stories were stories I wanted to actually play.
Speaker 1:
12:30
I never jumped back into the once I finished it one time. I never jumped back in and played the story for Jurassic World Evolution two, whereas for the first one I would go back and play it because I could. I could reimagine and as I got better at building parks and, you know, laying everything out, I wanted to see how much better I could do on like another playthrough. I have never touched the campaign or chaos theory in Jurassic World Evolution 2. It's purely sandbox and I go in there again when I feel like I have, you know, when I have some free time and I just want to relax. So I think what it is. So the best feature for the second one again is just those expanded tools that we have that are that were not in the second game, especially when it comes to like decorations Again, small things, placeable trees, a bunch of stuff that again makes it feel like a real park. So, because my time is spent solely in sandbox, my answer is probably different than yours.
Speaker 2:
13:26
Yeah, I think for me one of the biggest things that I really enjoyed was obviously atmospheric when you go from the music, which I'm sure after a while gets really repetitive and can be a little bit, you know, annoying. But the music is really good, the atmosphere, this graphically looks really really good as well, and I will say it was easy enough to do some of the construction, which is obviously like the basic of the game. Like you don't want to have a game that feels really clunky when it comes to building, and I do think that that was pretty strong. My experience was mainly in the campaign at first. I'd say more than half of my play time. I sunk at least 10 hours into this game just trying to get the hang of it. So obviously you've got much more experience than I do and can fill some of the holes.
Speaker 2:
14:13
But, like when it comes to the campaign, there were moments where, like it really needed to explain something and really handhold and maybe even dumb it down. Um, and I'm curious like what some of those challenges maybe you faced that were different from me, because as a nov, I definitely got overwhelmed around the time we started introducing scientists and we had to go on expeditions and that was very hard to keep track of. There were times where and I love this feature where you could fast forward the game, you could speed it up so you don't have to wait so long, but that could also get tricky when you have a lot of things in motion. So I wish the game again made it a little bit more seamless to do that Great features. I'm just wondering in execution if it was really the best it could be. Are those some of the same gripes that you have, or what are some of your biggest gripes with the game that you currently have to this day?
Speaker 1:
15:05
Yeah, the scientist, that was new, if I remember correctly, because you had to manage their how tired they were. And I remember just as I kind of progressed through the story. I know I was able to manage that, but when I, when I jumped into your stream and I could try, I was trying to think of how to fix that problem. I couldn't remember because it's been so long, because again in Sandbox you can turn scientists off you don't need, you don't need any of them, and then going on the digs and everything like that, so that was always a really fun and rewarding part is like oh, what dinosaur am I about to unlock and unleash into the park? So all of that is like you said, whenever you if you don't really know, if know, if it does, it's not doing a good job of telling you how to manage everybody's like fatigue level, then they get irritated and then I think they can like sabotage your park and do things like that. So it can get very overwhelming and it definitely did in the first game and it does in the second game, which is probably why I don't play those modes.
Speaker 1:
16:05
Like some people love chaos theory. I have a mod where I it's a mod that 100% the game. So I just didn't have to do any of that so I can unlock everything, because there are like skins locked behind chaos theory on the hardest mode. I was like I'm not doing that, I'm just gonna download this mod. There we go 100%.
Speaker 1:
16:22
So, yeah, I know a lot of people really enjoy those and, you know, more power to you, but that's not what I'm looking for when it comes to like a park builder, um, and that's why it's a really simplistic, honestly jurassic world. Evolution 2, evolution 1, would have been perfect for you to jump off. Honestly, that's probably where you should have started, as far as just just jumping into the game and getting the basics down, because this really is the probably the most simplistic park builder and I don't play the other ones because they are too in-depth. So like I have prehistoric kingdom and I have planet uh zoo and they are way more in-depth than this is and honestly, it's just it's a lot, it's too much, and I don't ever play them because I'm just like I can just jump back into this. It's way easier.
Speaker 2:
17:10
Right, and that's why I think I mentioned Command and Conquer earlier, and I used to play like Age of Empires. I played Age of Mythology on stream recently. Like some of those games that are combat based, I could kind of keep the juice flowing. So I was kind of hoping that for Chaos Theory it was going to be a little bit maybe like fast paced and like it was already a pre-established park and you'd have to like manage it until shit goes left or vice versa, try to keep it contained. And that just wasn't the case, at least in the first one I joined.
Speaker 2:
17:38
The first one I joined, I had to start from scratch and I was like, oh well, that's, I might as well just jump in a sandbox.
Speaker 2:
17:44
And I'm curious at what point you want to kind of share your part, which is going to be a feature of the episode, maybe something we should have mentioned earlier than this point.
Speaker 2:
17:55
But that might be a good thing to kind of have, as we talk about the game in sandbox mode. Because when I went in there, the fact that you said you had to get a mod to 100% the game and get all the skins and stuff, I think might be my most frustrating point. You talk about the freeness of sandbox and I think you have a lot of positives to talk about. I did not nearly spend as much time as sandbox but when I did, we were surprised to see how little I had access to in the form of dinosaurs, and I feel like that's a huge, huge miss. Maybe it was something I was doing wrong, but I looked everywhere in the settings to see if I did something wrong and I couldn't tell. So, yeah, very curious again, like when we talk about sandbox, getting into some of the specifics of like what a fully fleshed out park with time looks like, might really help me understand the appeal of the game.
Speaker 1:
18:43
Because, again, without a mod, I'm not really sure what the appeal is, unless you're going to sink in hundreds of hours of the game, and that's maybe the intention yeah, so I have well over a couple hundred hours in the first game, probably over 100 on the ps5 for jurassic world evolution 2, and then on pc on steam I have 82.
Speaker 1:
19:05
So like it gives you an idea of how much time I've sunk into this game, because a lot of it is. I watch a lot of content creators that do this and I'll get an idea because they're much better at building parks than I am and I'll just I'll get some inspiration and then I'll go in and do that. My biggest issue is completing a park, because I'll get I'll just run out of ideas but it's one of those things where I just have to go in and do it and the park will kind of fill itself out. But yeah, that was crazy. Whenever you went into into the sandbox mode and nothing was unlocked except for the hybrids, I was like that doesn't seem right, because you had to just have a fight night.
Speaker 1:
19:45
Yeah, ok, that's. That's why I started building my own park, because I was like we are playing this game so differently. So have you gone back in? Since you did that sandbox park and then done another and tried to then incubate new dinosaurs, did at least save the dinosaurs you unlocked?
Speaker 2:
20:03
no, I I haven't tried since then I'm curious because it was a a fairly frustrating experience to see, yeah, no I.
Speaker 1:
20:10
And whenever you open up the, the hatchery, I was like oh yeah, I can't remember who it was in the chat, but they're like did you play the campaign?
Speaker 2:
20:18
yeah, I was like. Yeah, that's like almost exclusively what I played yeah, so yeah again.
Speaker 1:
20:25
Because what if you don't want to? Because, yeah, what if you're on a console and you just want to play, because it's not like a wwe 2k and you can buy the thing that unlocks everything? I don't think that's a thing in the in jurassic.
Speaker 2:
20:38
Oh my god, this game is so loud yeah, well, what I will say, as you're pulling that up, is like I was also surprised to see how much like dlc content there is yeah, there's a ton for a game that remind me when it came out, but, you know, for a game that's still going strong in 2025, like after all these years, to still be almost like a full price game, plus there's dlc content, is kind of crazy to me there's DLC content is kind of crazy to me.
Speaker 1:
21:15
Yeah, it came out in 2021, right around Fallen Kingdom. Was it Fallen Kingdom? Yeah, because that's why people were kind of were a little worried that a third game was going to come out when fall, when Dominion came out, because that's kind of how they've been doing the releases, so we assume we were going to get Jurassic World Evolution three when Rebirth came out. That is not going to be the case, because that movie comes out in like a month and that's a good thing, because this game still runs fine and they're done supporting it, so they're not releasing any more DLC or anything like that. It's all run by the community now, which is totally fine. And, again, modding keeps games alive for a very, very long time. But it does go on sale a lot. But I would not suggest anybody unless you're. No, it just goes on sale too often to warrant a full price, so I don't think it's on like. I don't think it's on sale right now.
Speaker 2:
22:05
Yeah, and and at the time of recording guys, the only reason I even decided to play it was because it's on game pass.
Speaker 2:
22:11
Uh yeah, currently the best deal in gaming once again the best deal in gaming after a few lackluster uh you know, a lackluster year or two, but it's currently on there. It was gonna leave and then it just didn't. So that game has been on Game Pass apparently for years, right, phil? Yes, so it's hopefully sticking there for a little bit longer and I would say it was worth the download to at least give it a shot.
Speaker 1:
22:37
It's been on Game Pass. I could have sworn it was one of the games of the month on PlayStation, but I could be mistaken.
Speaker 2:
22:44
I usually stay on top of downloading those.
Speaker 1:
22:47
Yeah, you would have seen it in there. Maybe the first one was yeah, that was probably it. So it does go on sale a lot. So if you are interested in the game, I would definitely just wait for one of those sales and then, whenever it goes on sale, the dlc also goes on sale, so I definitely would not suggest purchasing it at full price. That is not necessary. So if you want to switch over to our youtube, if you just want to see kind of what this park looks like, so I pick. I pick san diego specifically because that's where eric had all of his chaos going on, so I just wanted to build on the same area um again this is.
Speaker 1:
23:23
This is sandbox mode and this is where I spend pretty much all of my time. Most of what you see in here in this screen right now is modded. So like this fence, this bush, all these statues, this water what do you call it? Fountain all of this is modded. Obviously, that billboard that's modded. There's like these statues here that I added on Well, no, john Hammond is in the base game, but like there's like the velociraptor statue, so like this is like the entrance of my park.
Speaker 1:
23:54
Um, look, there's San Diego over there. So this is like the entrance of my park. So stuff like this, so like water lilies, like things like this add so much to like the base game. And again, this is all credited to modders, like keeping this game alive and just making again it feel like an actual, like lived in jurassic world, like a place that you would actually want to visit. So here's my little again mods map. I don't know what that map is of, but mods, this little, most of this little area right here. It's got a little food trough, so they come up and eat food, so they come up.
Speaker 2:
24:34
This is. This is intense, this is intense and also everything about everything we just said about the game having so many like options and customizations. Uh, fuck all that.
Speaker 1:
24:46
Fuck all of that it has nothing and keep in mind. Okay, so keep in mind. So, like this is the direct decorations part, right, you remember what the decorations look like when you were playing the game.
Speaker 2:
24:56
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:
24:58
This, these are all, these are all mods.
Speaker 2:
25:01
Yeah, I could tell Phil, You're scrolling for days.
Speaker 1:
25:11
So all of this is stuff that's added in by people that are much, much smarter than me that I do not understand how they do what they do.
Speaker 2:
25:15
Yeah, I, I just think maybe I'm in a place in life where I'm willing to put in, like I'm willing to put in time in a game right, I'm willing to put in a lot of hours into a game, but I also would like to put in hours to a completed game that doesn't require mods or like oh, for sure over the course of years, it continuing to improve, like I feel like once a game comes out, you should be able to sync the time that you want to in it, not have to make a multi-year commitment.
Speaker 1:
25:43
This is nuts, I agree no, I agree, and, and I was doing that on the console. So the whole appeal of playing it on pc is I do have like access to modding the game, and you know, that was like a big thing for me. Getting a gaming pc was not only modding this, but just modding games in general. Just because, again, it's, there's so many, uh, there are so many things, so many different things available. So, like this, this is a bathroom area modded somebody, somebody made this and it just looks much better than the you know, the base, the base bathroom, this dinosaur not in the base game, modded, whoops, this, uh, this guy not in the base game, a mod.
Speaker 1:
26:21
Also, remember, I told you I couldn't remember how to, um, like place dinosaurs or like hatch them or whatever it's, because I just hit l and it's a spawn tool and I can spawn any of the dinosaurs that I want insane, which makes it much easier to play the game. So I don't have to worry about anything crazy, uh, anything like that. So, again, just things that make the game much more playable. I can also adjust like the time of day, so like, if I want it to be like nighttime, I can change it to nighttime yeah, this was not the experience, not even so that's the whole thing, like that's.
Speaker 1:
26:56
Another thing that's like appealing to me about mods is like quality of life stuff, just like make the game easier, uh, easier to play. There's a megalodon in here somewhere. There he is, hello, yeah. Also another thing like when the game first came out, lagoons were cool but they were fucking lifeless. It was just like it looked basically just like this there were, you couldn't. There were no decorations or anything like that. Finally, added decorations. They added kelp, things of that nature.
Speaker 2:
27:27
They added um, I don't question, did you? You didn't manually add all that kelp, did you? Yeah, yes, I did here.
Speaker 1:
27:35
You want to see the kelp tool. Hold on phil.
Speaker 2:
27:38
You want to put more kelp down there is so many different types of kelp down there okay, which type? Of kelp, would you?
Speaker 1:
27:44
like me to put, here we go, we'll just add some like the tall stacks are cool but there's no shot.
Speaker 2:
27:50
You also did the little patches that are down there. Oh, no, no, no, like all this down here no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, that comes with the. Okay, that's insane man.
Speaker 1:
28:02
Yeah, so like this, this statue, this sign, this fountain, all modded um, you have a lack of amenities, by the way the park's not even supposed to be open right now. What the fuck are y'all doing here? Hold on close, everyone out, everyone out. We're in the um. We're in the what's it called the epic universe stage. Everyone, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:
28:26
Yeah so one thing I'll mention as well. So like, again, the game not having a lot of the things that, uh, not having the quality of life, things, right guys? We didn't even mention the fact that in the hand-holding stage, they don't even mention the fucking weather situation, because I had a tornado ripped through my park, and that's about the time in the campaign where I was like, okay, well, if the game's not going to explain this to me, I'm just going to go play something else.
Speaker 2:
28:55
And that's what I tried to go to Chaos Theory and then ended up in Sandbox.
Speaker 1:
29:00
Yeah, the weather stuff is pretty crazy, which is definitely why you should have played the first game first, because you get an idea of how to handle all that stuff in the first game, of how to handle all that stuff in the first game.
Speaker 2:
29:09
Yeah, I guess I just assume the second game and maybe that kind of answers the question of like, can you just jump into the second game? I would maybe say the answer's like, maybe Like, if your experience with park builders, exactly.
Speaker 1:
29:22
It depends on your experience with a park builder, and that's what I would say for sure. I'll just show you two more things then I'll stop streaming. Here's my boat tour.
Speaker 2:
29:35
I'm assuming that's not in the base game. It is not.
Speaker 1:
29:38
It was yeah, yeah, somebody modded this in. I mean, that is cool.
Speaker 2:
29:45
Also extremely dangerous.
Speaker 1:
29:47
I agree, I agree. Oh, actually two more things here's, uh, here's my little hotel area, so you know everybody comes in, checks into their hotel.
Speaker 2:
29:56
got a little beach here yeah, I had like triple the hotels yeah, I know, you had so many fucking hotels I had a whole strip of just like at least eight to ten hotels.
Speaker 1:
30:09
No, I wanted some sense of, like exclusivity. And you're like no, everybody, everybody come.
Speaker 2:
30:14
Yeah, I was like we're good, we got max capacity for fight night.
Speaker 1:
30:18
Yeah, so, and then also water slide.
Speaker 2:
30:23
The water slide is cool, but what are with all the floaties? That's too many floaties.
Speaker 1:
30:27
Well, I don't know, I may have went a little overboard on the floaties. That's too many floaties.
Speaker 2:
30:29
Well, I don't know, I may have went a little overboard I don't want to, I don't want to criticize, but you know there's a little bit too many, you know feedback has been received and I will take that into account. Just reduce that by like a little too.
Speaker 1:
30:42
And then I have my uh, uh, my little tx so this this oh, look at that, look at there you go, look at that we're in the log what? A great shot. Um, I got, yeah, waterfall mod, and then did you have the log in the game. No, I don't think you know, because that's um.
Speaker 2:
31:02
I think the log is in the game, okay, so I don't think I ever used it, but yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:
31:06
So again, a cool feature that they added later, but then it's made better because I can, with this, with also this like free form mod move to, I can like raise it and lower it into the ground, so like it's a little bit lower, so like again, stuff like that that makes the game better is why I'm still playing it today, and that's not going to be for everybody. So, like, if you're looking for a really relaxing game, if you want a good park builder, like a really kind of bare bones park builder, like straight to the point, the first one or the second one would be for you. If you want to really go into as far as you can do things in like prehistoric kingdom, where you can like you can breed them and come up with specific like variants of animal or dinosaur and and all of that and and have a lot more dynamic building, that's what those games are for. That's way above my understanding of park builders. So I did buy those because I was like, oh yeah, I want more control. I don't. I learned I don't want more control, I want less control.
Speaker 1:
32:12
Actually, when it comes to putting some of that stuff together, it it seems it doesn't seem like that when I, you know, I showed all those mods, but those are like. I want this mod, I want to place it down with um, planet zoo and prehistoric kingdom. It is much more intense. And uh, you know what, shout out to jay from super bracket bros. He told me not to get them and I did anyway.
Speaker 2:
32:31
So well, you know what, when jay says something, you don't listen, that's yeah, that is fair.
Speaker 1:
32:38
So that's feedback yeah, I think, uh, there will be a third game if we it is confirmed. It hasn't been announced, but we know in terms of like, when people dive into frontiers, like force, like looking ahead to what's coming on their, on their docket. There is another Jurassic World Evolution game coming down the pipeline, which is not surprising, I believe. Even over the last few years, even though it's not their newest game, it is the one that makes the most money because of course it is Jurassic and anything, even for people that are just very casually playing, they're going to buy. It's got the Jurassic name on it. So there will be one coming out, probably, if I had to guess, probably next year, if it doesn't come out this holiday season. But there'll be another one. And again they pull in a ton of money and you know I will certainly get it on day one.
Speaker 1:
33:25
But for anybody thinking about trying it, either again, play it on game pass, play it on place I believe it is on playstation, like premium or whatever the hell it's called now and then or get it on sale on steam. I do think pc is the best way to play it because, as of as somebody who's played it on console and pc, playing it on mouse and keyboard is definitely superior, but it's still fun either way. But yeah, it really just depends on how like in depth you want to get. If you just are OK with the base game, play it on console. If you want to go with them, go for the mods. There are so many out now, since the game has been out for three years, so you could basically make it a completely different game.
Speaker 2:
33:59
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense and you know what I mean it's. It's definitely got the appeal, like I can absolutely see it, and even with a game like this, like again, I still don't understand why there aren't more park builders like this. I would. I would ask Phil, as we kind of are wrapping up the conversation or heading towards the wrap up Is there anything that you would like vouch for or put on a wish list, like something you would want to see in park builder style, anything at all that kind of pops to mind? Or is there like a limited pool to park building, you know? Is that why we haven't seen a lot of them?
Speaker 1:
34:37
You know, for me, like the big thing is just like it's so simple, it's dinosaurs, right, Like we love dinosaurs, and I just think that is certainly the big hook for me. I just think that is certainly the big hook for me. For Zoo, if there was like a simplified Planet Zoo, I would certainly play that Because once again, those games are just so overwhelming that I just could not get into it. I'm sure if I really dedicated the time I could, but because I was so used to the simplicity of Jurassic World Evolution I really didn't want to learn how to play a whole new park builder. So I would say, maybe a simplified Zoo, planet Coaster 2. I know it got like mixed reviews so that's never really been my thing either and that's probably because I'm not really a theme park person anyway. So I really think like this is pretty much it for I'm because I'm still playing the game. Essentially, if you talk about since the first one, I've been playing the game for almost seven years and really don't have any complaints and still keep up with all the new mods and keep up with the content creators that I still like to look, look in on and see what kind of like parks they're building. There's really not too much for me on my end that I would, that I could think of that.
Speaker 1:
35:51
I would want like differently, I do. There are plenty of things that they can do to improve between Jurassic World, evolution 2 and 3. Do they need to make a 3? Probably not. They can probably just update this one and it would be fine because, like you said, visually it still looks fantastic, sounds good, but you know Universal's behind it, so they would be fine because, like you said, visually it still looks fantastic, sounds good, but you know Universal's behind it, so they would be. They'd be up for it. What about you? Do you think you'll jump back into? This is just like to try it and see if you want to play more, or like do you have any interest in jumping into like Frontiers, other games like Planet Coaster or anything like that?
Speaker 2:
36:25
Yeah. So before I answer that, the one thing I'll throw out there is my thought about like what a park builder might look like is I'm surprised that a big ip like a universal or a disney hasn't jumped on the theme park train of like a park builder there is a disney one, but it's not good yeah, like I imagine like a disney one where you could go build like the different eras of disney world or disneyland, like that. That would be. That would seem like if you're gonna get the diehards into a game like that they'd sink a lot of hours.
Speaker 2:
36:56
As far as sinking a lot of hours into this game, um, I'm gonna be honest, this episode reminded me to uninstall it, uh, and I'm not gonna. I'm probably not gonna touch this game again, and that's not really feedback on this game because, like I could put more time into it. I think I need a little bit more. Two things going into this decision. I need a little bit more hand-holding, uh, because it's not a genre that I am unfamiliar with, it's just a genre that I am not recently involved with, uh, so it's not a comfort genre. And then the other thing is I just have so many games that I'm playing. You know we've been streaming a lot more, so there are a lot more games that have jumped into my palette of games that I want to try.
Speaker 2:
37:38
I want to go out of my comfort zone with and this one wasn't quite out of my comfort zone, but again, it's just not comfortable enough where I'm like, yeah, I'll keep it installed. It does take up quite a bit of space, understandably. And then, after seeing your park, that's a complete detriment, because now you're telling me, in order to play it properly, I probably have to mod it, and I haven't quite gotten into the modding game yet. I haven't reached that journey of my PC gaming experience yet, not that that won't happen, but yeah, there's just a lot of elements, I think, going against me playing it, considering the time you'd have to spend, the size of the download on my PC and then those other factors.
Speaker 1:
38:17
Yeah, and then would you, do you have any desire to jump into any of the other park builders that are out right now?
Speaker 2:
38:23
I just like what would be the what would be? The main ones that are out like that are recent.
Speaker 1:
38:27
I think Planet Coaster 2 would probably be the main ones that are out like that are recent. Planet coaster 2 would probably be the one since you said you played a lot of roller coaster tycoon.
Speaker 1:
38:31
Planet coaster 2 is the spiritual successor to roller coaster tycoon yeah, but you said it had bad reviews yeah, but again, we're like, we're not as critical when it comes to like what people are probably looking at when it comes to planet coaster. So I don't know, I knew. I do know that at one point it was either like on the PlayStation, like one of the PlayStation games, or maybe even Xbox, I don't know. But yeah, that's the closest thing to Roller Coaster Tycoon. If you ever got that, itch it would be Planet Coaster.
Speaker 2:
39:02
It would be Planet Coaster, I would say, at the right price, probably at the right price. It would probably be something I would consider and I would like to try again is it gonna be user-friendly? I don't know one game that did come out this year, holy shit, that blasted this trailer.
Speaker 1:
39:22
Blasted from steve I was like what happened? So sorry, uh, almost had an aneurysm.
Speaker 2:
39:24
The game that came out this year is called two point museum. It was oh yeah, I have two point museum on my um, on my wish list, so I mean that that looks, I almost had an aneurysm.
Speaker 1:
39:29
The game that came out this year is called Two Point Museum. Oh yeah, I have Two Point Museum on my wish list.
Speaker 2:
39:33
So I mean that looks pretty cool. I might give that a shot. I think that looks pretty unique and pretty cool, but again, at the price point it's $30 right now.
Speaker 1:
39:42
I mean that's not bad, but it also goes on sale quite a bit. So that's probably going to be my answer.
Speaker 2:
39:48
Yeah, that's going to be my answer there, Speaking of Jurassic World Evolution. It is on sale for $17.99 right now 70% off on Steam.
Speaker 1:
39:55
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2:
40:00
So there you go, there you go. So if you want to play it on pc, and then this episode is going to be coming out a month from when we record it, so who knows what the price is as a fyi, there's got to be like a summer sale coming up soon.
Speaker 1:
40:06
It's either in june or july. It might be cheaper. Yeah, maybe even less I.
Speaker 2:
40:10
I would say if I'm gonna jump into a game like this, it might be a more recent civilization game which is not a park builder but, uh, you know, a city simulator, because that's a franchise I've always really enjoyed from afar. I did play it a little bit when I was younger. I think civilization 3 is the one I jumped into the most, so that might be one I jump into. Or like an age of empires and replaying that, or command and conquer, so very similar games in that vein of like that overhead view and just kind of playing around the map.
Speaker 1:
40:38
City builder or a park builder again, just probably lower on the totem pole for me right now yeah, it is a you know it's a niche genre, but it has a really huge fan base when it comes to just kind of whether it be still city builder, park builder, a civilization builder, things like that. So they are around and they are still kicking for a reason. So but yeah, I'm glad you jumped into it. Like you said, you probably should have played the first one before jumping into two, but it's OK, I definitely understand. Like it is something that like we all have our thing right that we jump into and we just kind of like you and every stream with a game of Nubbies.
Speaker 1:
41:19
And I'm just like I'm going to play an hour of Jurassic World Evolution tonight.
Speaker 2:
41:24
Yeah, we're just built different. I guess I will, I will Build.
Speaker 2:
41:30
Yeah build, build. I will say we've had a nice diversity of games as well that we've been kind of introducing. You know, I think this one fits the bill of a game that you wouldn't think we would talk about other than Phil Of course. Maybe me you wouldn't think I would talk about, just like you wouldn't think that Phil would talk about a game like the Stanley Parabell, or that either of us would play a game like Slay the Spire and really enjoy it, a game that I put down since and is a game that I've been trying to force back into my routine. So again to talk about the amount of games we're playing, at this time it's more than ever Too many, which is too many, but it is very exciting for the state of this particular series, where we thought we'd run out of games that we played and reminisced on. Now we're finding ourselves playing a lot more current games that could end up in rotation. So love that.
Speaker 1:
42:20
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43:00
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Speaker 2:
43:40
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Speaker 2:
44:34
you already spent 10 minutes in the pre-show opening those cards. Can you tell everybody the grand total of cards, the grand cards that you grabbed?
Speaker 1:
44:45
I opened five packs and there wasn't one hit. My name is Mysterical Mighty. Instagram is bullshit.
Speaker 2:
44:52
That is my co-host Phil the Filipino. And please don't forget, we release new episodes every Wednesday for the podcast and all you gotta do is wait for it this is the wait for it podcast.
