THE RETRO MOVEMENT with Omar Tyree | Episode 3 | Special Guest: Damond “Skeet Da’ Barber” Young

June 18, 2026

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THE RETRO MOVEMENT with Omar Tyree | Episode 3 (with Music) | Featuring Damond "Skeet Da' Barber" Young

Welcome to The Retro Movement, the Zoom interview series hosted by NAACP Image Award winner and New York Times bestselling author Omar Tyree. Dedicated to "REspecting The ROots," the show explores the stories, journeys, and legacies of influential writers, musicians, filmmakers, entrepreneurs, educators, activists, and media professionals who continue to shape culture around the world.

In Episode 3, Omar sits down with Philadelphia's own Damond "Skeet Da' Barber" Young, a respected entrepreneur, community figure, and master barber whose work has impacted countless lives both inside and outside the barbershop. From business and mentorship to culture and personal growth, this conversation offers insight into the experiences that helped shape his journey and influence.

Produced by Valerie Denise Jones, The Retro Movement is a weekly series featuring celebrities, industry leaders, and changemakers whose stories inspire generations. Every episode preserves history while creating new conversations for the future.

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1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,919 Speaker 1: Blaming. I'm serious Stokee so solid. Studie Jones in the eighties. 2 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:06,799 Speaker 2: Yel with Raphael in the booths that lay us down. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Raphael got the mind of this now massive technician, highest 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,640 sound tition to people, and every sound is fastball from 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:19,160 the mount. And let him know it's restro moment omar Tyree. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,399 Speaker 1: Produced by him, Miss Valerie Denise Jones. 7 00:00:21,559 --> 00:00:25,399 Speaker 2: Let's go this is old South Reed with the retro movement. 8 00:00:25,679 --> 00:00:28,079 Back home and bug out here. I got my West 9 00:00:28,079 --> 00:00:29,839 food off your shirt over because I was born and 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,560 raised in the bottom thirty eighth Street, and I got 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,640 from Man Skeith the barber over here. He's down from 12 00:00:35,679 --> 00:00:38,320 down to South End in South Philly. So we're hit 13 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:40,920 shop right now twenty first Street, and we're gonna. 14 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Talk to him on the retro movement. I actually have 15 00:00:43,399 --> 00:00:44,159 Barbara Steeles. 16 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:47,759 Speaker 2: Everybody in PHILODOLPHI was into the barber potentially coming up 17 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:50,000 in the seventies and eighties, and so we're gonna talk 18 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:52,600 about all the barber shopping. But we always start with 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,439 the Bruce and East person. I'm from West Philly, he's 20 00:00:55,479 --> 00:00:58,399 from South Philly. So we're gonna talk for today. The 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,679 barber Skeith the barber about growing up in South Philly. 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,480 Then we're gonna move into the barbershop game. So what 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,560 what what part of South ptyes you grew up there? 24 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:09,319 I grew up in the bathroom homes projects, Bacher Holmes 25 00:01:09,439 --> 00:01:14,680 Batch from Pass projects they no longer standing, knocking down 26 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:18,040 about twenty years a dog, about two thoullars and almost 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,400 almost about Saturday. 28 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, I moved out of there around nineteen ninety nine. 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: Okay, backing for two thousand, right for two thousand. That's 30 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:31,959 why I got my bones. That that's why I learned 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,239 my craftfield. Yeah, did you play football and sports? 32 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:36,239 Speaker 1: Nine in Southty? 33 00:01:36,359 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: I played ninety pounds from the valley some streets in 34 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,640 that DV that's got nineteen from Johnson. Yeah, uh, they 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,000 do all in the baseball and that, you know, in 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,159 the real sports was something that you know, every got 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,319 kids that we had to get into. 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,439 Speaker 1: So that was the part of keeping out of Supa. 39 00:01:50,959 --> 00:01:54,959 Shigned up to throw valley football, so exactly same thing. Man. 40 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: I played for the man Short Rakers at thirty six 41 00:01:57,879 --> 00:02:00,319 and asked them played when I was just yesterday. They 42 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:02,680 called the Miles mac play run down. Okay, and I 43 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,799 grew up with Miles mac and he got shot some 44 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:07,239 three years ago. When the kids are messing around. Man 45 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:09,039 didn't even know what they were doing down there. He 46 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:11,759 just ended up in but they they ain't fiemly fire, 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,759 but he wanted to due they was supposed to get hit. 48 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: So we was just down there. But then it's ilanic 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,000 man when I leaped up shoppield at westo Plain in 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Ount Area. 51 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: I played for the Wildcats and we ended up winning 52 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,719 our first championship against the South Whootkie teams caught Capital 53 00:02:25,759 --> 00:02:28,919 Soil the Cowboy camp so remember them, and we lost. 54 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: We wanted them there. It was seven to six, but 55 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,000 I felt like in like a dollar, the youngest dude 56 00:02:33,039 --> 00:02:34,639 on the team, so I ain't get to get in 57 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:37,120 the game. I had two plays on the kickball team 58 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,280 and then my. 59 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: Last year playing on the way, we lost in DVN 60 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:44,520 and we was the one team, so yeah, we lost 61 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:47,120 to DV It was a cold game down. 62 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,159 Speaker 1: South for he was freeom. 63 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:50,199 Speaker 2: We couldn't wait to jump on the bus at halftime. 64 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,360 It was freezing down there. But I thought they caught 65 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,960 in the giants. They ain't playing on the giants. 66 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: The DV no, so it was uh if I could 67 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,599 be called uh, it used to be uh what grey class? 68 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Did you played ninety pouns? So nineteen cwn it wasn't. 69 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: It wasn't a traveling team, So that was kind of 70 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,400 fine into that particular organization. 71 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was collegious. 72 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: Boring mice started those times they been had that one 73 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:17,360 fifteen big guy that might might have played with Yeah, 74 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:18,199 so I played. 75 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: Eight shoot getting three ninety pouns, so I didn't. I 76 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,919 was gold a guy at that time before I had 77 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,159 a gros. Yeah. 78 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I right a Mansis team out won 79 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,599 the first championship and then the last year when we 80 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:33,919 lost in the playoffs twenty and nothing to the big 81 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,080 right down here south will be freezing cool man. 82 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: You know. It was another reason why I stopped playing 83 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,479 football too. I couldn't build that. 84 00:03:41,159 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. 85 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: I was standout. So being a standout, I played in 86 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:48,199 every position on my team. Yeah, every position. 87 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I play quarterback, running back, ticul run, I played 88 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:56,840 all off had any player I played, well, that's particular 89 00:03:56,919 --> 00:03:59,080 game when he got coold, I was on offense. 90 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:01,599 Speaker 1: But I had a beef and support. So that last 91 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,439 game against DV. 92 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: I'll played both tways at men suit because dudes are 93 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,479 dropping out bold they ain't. 94 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,319 Speaker 1: Wanna play and post like ants win you playing get 95 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,520 back with it. That's my name is still Answine. 96 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:14,759 Speaker 2: I changed the old Man with Shot Southary in ninety 97 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,519 two in the court system in Philly because a whole 98 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,639 lot of the Muslim brothers they said, oh, my government name, 99 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,160 and then he use a regular name. 100 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: My name is legal old Marbras Shot Salary since ninety. 101 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,399 Speaker 2: Two in the court system, man and step board and 102 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,079 shot Martin Street right there in central City. All right, 103 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,279 So when you was a young kid, what's your first 104 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:36,759 barber experience? You best be getting the head coming. I'm 105 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,560 gonna tell you about my first barber experience. I would 106 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:44,160 shoe a borrough just past my ball brother. 107 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: I got to change the media double kid, and I'll 108 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,279 be even murdered. But I couldn't know that I was 109 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,160 the time it's been indeed on seven second. Okay, well 110 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,920 barbershope that's Ford. 111 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,759 Speaker 1: So that's why I just get my hair back as 112 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,680 a young kid. Yeah, wants we moving in South Phillya 113 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,759 for wander and being a barber. 114 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so your uncle's gonna get his solos making 115 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:08,680 for barber So he's my that's marchand for being a partner. 116 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,199 Speaker 1: A good deal. I'm gonna tell you man. I lived 117 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,279 at thirteenth and asked me. 118 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: We had a barbershop at thirty ninth in Paramount, which 119 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:17,920 is right around the corner. And you wouldn't you know, 120 00:05:18,079 --> 00:05:20,560 walk into like a basement. Areag's like right at the corner. 121 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,639 So you walk down and walk here and got the 122 00:05:22,879 --> 00:05:25,879 overhead and then I'm five years there and have five 123 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,959 years old o and I hear everybody, somebody get the hustling. 124 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,319 I'm going there, I said, mother. Mama said what do 125 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:34,319 you want for your hair? But I said, give me 126 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:35,000 a hospital. 127 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,439 Speaker 1: I didn't do what it was. I sit in the chair. 128 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:41,120 You cut all my hair I'm talking about. I looked 129 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:43,360 like a mom, and so he put the mirror front 130 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,519 of me and I was like, oh, I looked like 131 00:05:45,639 --> 00:05:48,199 a bus. I was like a Marshley. And my mom 132 00:05:48,319 --> 00:05:50,439 was like, oh, you caught all And he's like, yeah, 133 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:53,000 that's for Austin. I'm the dochins. And then my mom 134 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,639 was like, yeah, lets you have can take it back. No, 135 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,519 I'm not here for that. So got a free headcut. 136 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Then I had to get it on the jemp hass 137 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:01,879 little jump hass going say that Jeff had followed me 138 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:02,879 with that. 139 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: I never asked for a hustle like get in my 140 00:06:05,959 --> 00:06:08,839 life because that's when the hustle men in Philadelphia just 141 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,879 cut it off off so you can go outside and 142 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:12,920 hustle and do whatever you want to do, you know. 143 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was my horrible experience with the barbers. Third, 144 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,000 unite the family. 145 00:06:19,439 --> 00:06:21,759 Speaker 2: If I understanding the level, so you know, you older 146 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,639 than you understand the hustle level. So you get a 147 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,000 one to have or one of them shoe, you know 148 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,319 what I'm saying. But then we we got that he 149 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,800 come three beaches, so you just get. 150 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,519 Speaker 1: Ted all down the shape up from the last moment. 151 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,399 That's pretty much book. That was. 152 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: Now we get older, so I get the bar thieves 153 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,480 and the chefs and the boxes all got to finish us. 154 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: So we got all the trading stuff. So that's what 155 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,879 that's what the transcended is. Okay, Now we got to 156 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,480 the eighties. Philadelphia is one of the main cities going 157 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,000 the families, and and when they had the blockhead cuts, 158 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,480 then we had the round safest where it's not a. 159 00:06:56,519 --> 00:06:58,759 Speaker 1: Blocking ground at all. And we had the higher we 160 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,439 would selling the sharpest always in the country. You remember 161 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,240 that artist, she get. 162 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: Those cuts to n tight high type ball feet, hindsight 163 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,480 round it all. I guess absolutely did you start putting 164 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,000 like danger and speaker hands and whatnot of initials and 165 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:15,560 six says? And so when I first started playing around 166 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,439 with the footage, I would it's a story. It's a 167 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,399 story behind my getting into the park again growing up 168 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,920 the prods. You know, my almoys had left his flipper. Yeah, 169 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,279 and I was practicing on a neighbor or not who 170 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,879 was unfortunately and your That's how I was practicing. 171 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: So, like you said, the hustle, So I cut it dang, yeah, 172 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,759 and then tind to down learn how to seal with 173 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,920 one clipper though just one clip on murdering. 174 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: You know that I had some artisticty background from being 175 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:46,399 a refleeting guy young you know what I. 176 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:48,519 Speaker 1: Mean, stuff utistic background. 177 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so being a coffeiti guy, you know how 178 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,879 to trace out and that's what he was and then're 179 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:55,680 gonna go start feeding then and all that came on. 180 00:07:56,199 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: I did, yes, and yeah, this is something I can't 181 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:01,920 right to this point. I'm not going at parts, but 182 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,920 you did with the same thing because the typically got 183 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,600 an answer that's sharply. 184 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,279 Speaker 1: Right, that's right. So you were shaking up with Holme 185 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:10,759 touchs home cuts. 186 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: It was sharp, Okay, that's good. And then we started 187 00:08:14,959 --> 00:08:17,040 doing that on shark line thing. I don't know where 188 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:18,959 they came from, Andy, I though it was later on 189 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,759 where I guess we put like some kind of shaven 190 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:22,639 pulling on the hair. 191 00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: We get this sharp line. 192 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:27,319 Speaker 2: It's sund however, and two hours another city and I 193 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 see dudes coming out with the chark line like, yo, 194 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:32,799 your father from fluy Yeah, but father fully, what's the 195 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,200 shark line of stuff? Do you remember when we started 196 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:35,480 doing that? 197 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: The whore came in in the last I'm saying five 198 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,840 five years basically chark mom actually. 199 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: An ask line. 200 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,039 Speaker 2: So Ashli skin once you washed through the hair, the 201 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:51,519 hair brought cut it down. They got that are uh 202 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,679 general gage, but naturally the skin once you mid it 203 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,960 the skin with ass. 204 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 205 00:08:57,639 --> 00:08:59,759 Speaker 2: So then we went there with the raising you know, 206 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:02,440 you know it's not there's also that would be more ask. 207 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Then people start using conceal. That's badamn. The chalk lines. Yeah, 208 00:09:08,919 --> 00:09:12,440 I particularly I'm still I don't. I don't even this show. 209 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,559 You ain't never did the sharp line. I say, an 210 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:18,080 I'm gonna use conceala, So okay, that's like get the 211 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,480 sprits around here line alcohol. So you still do the 212 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,559 chalk line. But if somebody wants to that, they preferred 213 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:27,240 that that they requested. That's why. That's that's my that's 214 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:30,720 my form of trunk. Okay, so they requested them. I 215 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,240 don't have that. So that's a young guy. 216 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: It's crazy, man, because I've been in other cities and 217 00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:38,799 they'll start talking about Jerry cor and start out like 218 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,600 I never in. 219 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: All my kids, and for that I was going to 220 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,759 sixty nine. I have never seen. 221 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: Jerry trug in Philadelphia. If you got Jerry Core, we 222 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,519 immediately know you from something where else. 223 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: We just didn't do it, man. And you involve shopping 224 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,879 bout me. Have you ever read me guys coming down 225 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:57,200 with any kind of wedding anything like that? And so 226 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,519 only birth dad and Jerry carry that. I can be 227 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:03,879 no more find your box? Wait did you poss from 228 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:07,159 that South Phi? You know what I mean? But yeah, 229 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,639 it's some Jerry Crows, you know, going fat for another 230 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,399 boy and he had a different trip. 231 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: My cousin. They get out there every now for my side, 232 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,440 one great spot off I'm showing about. 233 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the seventies. I'm talking about this was. 234 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,639 This is the eight days. Oh my goodness. There you 235 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:30,879 fell like he got it. He got family here with 236 00:10:30,919 --> 00:10:34,000 the cherry growing here. I said, I know this felsm 237 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:34,840 right now. 238 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: Part put it up. 239 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:36,919 Speaker 1: That's what I want. 240 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: Some supid get out of here. But nobody else was 241 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:44,399 doing it. He was like my uncle aunful, darkness and stove. 242 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,519 He would do the texture, run okay, get that and 243 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,759 bind me. One time I had the feeling. Look, I'm 244 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:57,080 what eight three, seventh eighth grade about thirteen fourteen yr 245 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,320 old cut with that street dude, oh man told me 246 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,360 out the frame I got put on. 247 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,799 Speaker 1: I hadn't go back and what in Western Piers went 248 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:06,240 to school. 249 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:08,919 Speaker 2: I was the big I was the bid. 250 00:11:09,039 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: I was the bid. 251 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:10,879 Speaker 2: I was the big ball for. 252 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: The from the region of that that haircut crazy. 253 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:16,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, you went into basketball going in football, 254 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:21,080 you kept playing basketball, Yes, you kept playing basketball. I 255 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:26,480 sell that basketball and eighty five eighty six. 256 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: You know my entrance went into the streets. Okay, so 257 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,320 uh basketball preferred. 258 00:11:34,879 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: My first cousin wound up playing full basketball and he 259 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,799 had selled the four basketball again. So your first cousin 260 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,759 he came out of college, came out and say that, Okay, 261 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,080 you sell he went all the way out and you 262 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,879 sell that. Did he get a scholarship? Yeah, because you 263 00:11:49,919 --> 00:11:51,639 knew what you see. That ain't no game man, that 264 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,600 Joe Boss got a bid. I mean you saybody for 265 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:57,960 the ride and then got grabbed the first round U 266 00:11:59,039 --> 00:11:59,960 pennsil Tis. 267 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:01,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you play in the Sunny Yo lead? 268 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: Sonny Yo me is like the famous summer busy basketball 269 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:05,679 fucking off. 270 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: He's like Sony Hill legends playing them. 271 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:12,039 Speaker 2: I played most most most playgrounds in the city, but 272 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,039 I didn't play. Yeah, Sunny Hill was like playing up. 273 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:16,840 I mean I tried out to Sunny Hill, but I 274 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:17,159 had a. 275 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: Bad experience of colture, so I didn't want back. Yeah. 276 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunny Hill is fimilar to UH for the New 277 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,360 York because they talked about Lucker Park and Sonny Hill 278 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,080 in Philadelphia's like the part was real Rucker Park associate 279 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:33,080 with you want Rucker Park and sixteenth pers go hand 280 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:36,919 in every you want to talk about outside basketball. Yeah, 281 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,600 but I would leave with between New York. I think 282 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,360 they talk about the Couch show, you know that the 283 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:45,360 door black, Yeah, whatever it was that would be associated with, 284 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,480 like the Sunny Hill Sonny, the b Future League, Big 285 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,120 League all got some different love for the Sunny Hill 286 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:55,039 lead that if you played anywhere, and that's what you 287 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:56,879 wanted to show the showcase your steel set. 288 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:57,919 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what you want. 289 00:12:58,399 --> 00:12:58,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 290 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you didn't go away to college and all 291 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,919 stay in flood office? Did you do community college? Still college? 292 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,159 So you came out of high school? What high school 293 00:13:08,159 --> 00:13:10,879 did you go? Said? I went to buy by Boxing? Okay, 294 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,000 what's that blue one white? Yes? Yeah, y'all didn't do 295 00:13:15,039 --> 00:13:16,759 a whole out in the sports store. I don't remember, y'all. 296 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,759 Basketballs ain't about excelling football later because I never remember 297 00:13:23,159 --> 00:13:29,480 being up in Barsham, but not by because guy that 298 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,759 really had skills again need not that we needed, was it. 299 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,399 We didn't make the breaksfore you're talking about the time here, 300 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:38,519 It wasn't for us. 301 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,279 Speaker 2: Sports was prevalent, So guys out here trying to take 302 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,919 care of themselves and brush offnam. So it's about that 303 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 kind of thing going on and the guy that really 304 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,759 were good. That couldn't play and excel about it, you 305 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:54,320 know what I mean? Boose guys that was good at 306 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,840 it because the fanfare and the Barns. 307 00:13:59,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 308 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: We watched right my senior year man, we lost the 309 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,919 Frankly and we went in the stronger division of the Lord. 310 00:14:08,279 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: So we lost the Frankfort. There was nineteen eighty six centralising. 311 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,039 Speaker 2: Okay, so we've written here and Jared Washington, Nu Parian 312 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:18,279 Kobe Branston on the Censil Temple. 313 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: So I tak to do jered By He was a. 314 00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: Sophomore then and I was the senior. But we lost 315 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:25,840 the Brankfort thirteen and seven and it was a money 316 00:14:25,879 --> 00:14:30,320 grading game. Ugly Barsham won there on that side, Frankfort 317 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,000 be Barsham forty eight to six. 318 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 319 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:34,559 Speaker 2: So we were like, dude, we were sitting there and 320 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:37,120 I went to the championship. Then we were the Blue Barney. 321 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:41,080 That was So the championship was Central and Frankft that yeah, 322 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,600 because we was in the Starway the Vision. 323 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: But Wasshington came out, you know Barshampton, but. 324 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,919 Speaker 2: Bay I never know about you know, so you came 325 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,679 out and then was it like straight into the barber 326 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:52,879 and then we took up kids off trying to figure 327 00:14:52,879 --> 00:14:55,440 out what you want to do from eighteen to twenty whatever. 328 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,039 Speaker 1: The twenty one Barbara was high he at first from 329 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,840 so you want to make them one? You just cut 330 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,159 your friends. I started off. 331 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: I started making on money just so I so I 332 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:07,919 got a little better the charge about my first time 333 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,879 charter if I fired at the hairy class out did 334 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:11,399 I tell? 335 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:13,279 Speaker 1: I tell the late ladies did. 336 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,679 Speaker 2: Where I started at? 337 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: I never been to the barber school? Yeah, uh sar. 338 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:24,480 And so they got turnish and some foody the passion 339 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,799 license and whatnot. And they asked you, how is that? 340 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,159 It's like an hour of process, and. 341 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,879 Speaker 2: It's you gotta get your hours and you know, getting 342 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:37,000 the proctor and do all the funking little stuff, said 343 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,000 stuff like that, and then you go to then board. 344 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,879 Speaker 1: So that's what that's what. Yeah, and you did that. 345 00:15:42,039 --> 00:15:44,919 You saw like twenty one twenty two after malls, the 346 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,000 hopping thing. So he was already getting good. 347 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: I was already effects of barber on my had. Guy, 348 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:53,639 that's some chances on me not having a license. I 349 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,080 had guys that really believe you know, just this hit 350 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,720 me in the system. Yeah, big system man hotel and 351 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:08,279 you know, just being able to shoot. We're under boost individuals. 352 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,879 Oh wait, okay, my old one of my my my 353 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:17,559 mentors our feet looks and another one is going to 354 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,720 jabals to blabal to mad. 355 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,039 Speaker 1: He another one of my. 356 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:27,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, very cunning hand, Rickie punning hand and double God 357 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:30,440 that schoolill be very very well in the bark all 358 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,279 right Now, I was uptown up top was they called it, 359 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:36,679 you know, mal every German south West blame and we 360 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:39,559 had a blue named Mark Lightfoot that was cutting in 361 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:43,240 I'm talking about dude is famous all over the pillage, 362 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:46,600 but cutting is, and I'm talking about with Germantown mount 363 00:16:46,679 --> 00:16:49,240 every West like we had some of the sharpest flyers 364 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,879 dues end up becoming. 365 00:16:50,519 --> 00:16:52,879 Speaker 1: A book of mine called fly Girl. But that was 366 00:16:52,919 --> 00:16:55,519 the other was y'all sharp down here cutting here in 367 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:56,080 the south. 368 00:16:55,919 --> 00:16:58,159 Speaker 3: For me, my guy who works me writing down my 369 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,679 park in how sonon the candy Man can't man. 370 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: Like that? You want to Sharpt's barbers at that particular 371 00:17:05,519 --> 00:17:08,200 time right there on life for it? Yeah and that yeah, 372 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:09,119 with black. 373 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,279 Speaker 1: Food, definitely game crazy dude the whole sitting. So y'all 374 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:18,400 heard about Mark like with that before cut hit the man. 375 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,640 You don't get me, so evolution won't come when you 376 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:23,480 know you die out. 377 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so you know what I'm talking about, 378 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:27,440 like for them all this new upper young guy that 379 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,079 started up, you know, changing the evolution of the barber game. 380 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:32,599 Speaker 3: You know, if things start changing all the time, be 381 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:36,920 throwing different things. I got clean dunking is real good, 382 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,400 you know what I mean. 383 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: You know it's a being barber man, Mike beaving barber, 384 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,279 so be the barber. 385 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: And that was the year it's doing when Philadelphia exploded 386 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,079 with the whole truck still sit and that what. 387 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,559 Speaker 1: They called it, J d M the TBN. So now 388 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,759 you get Mark Light was getting tents out of his world. 389 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:59,319 So them dude sitting him like behind logs. Cut if 390 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,279 we're talking at bay. 391 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well at that time, you know when you got 392 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,640 the mine. So guys that was getting money, don't pick 393 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:05,680 for everybody cut up that. 394 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: Pro freetball. Yeah that's how that was barbo. 395 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: At definitely what time, That's when the time where we 396 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:21,119 knew dam broke. Get it's get into that at this time. Yeah, 397 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,680 down Foster, you know in the barbershop all over the 398 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:29,279 country talking about all them d C, Chicago, Houston. You 399 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,559 got guys that come in the shop that you know 400 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,519 what they involved in. 401 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: You just stay to cut heads. And here in South 402 00:18:35,319 --> 00:18:37,880 Philly and this part of South Philly, we caught the 403 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:39,480 phrases North Phillia. 404 00:18:39,559 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: My opinion is the ruts. Okay, I'm from the bottom. 405 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:44,240 That's the rough part of West Philly. When you go 406 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:46,599 to the top of West bill that's like the probst 407 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,200 black people. They like, you know, been black soever, so 408 00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:51,160 they like they got the biggest keyboards. When you go 409 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,400 out to West Philly, Southwestern a little rightned or but 410 00:18:54,599 --> 00:18:57,599 down South Philly, I always says, always around she manly 411 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,160 Italianan is the South Philly dude. Them dudes is crazy 412 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,839 where you didn't know when you can trust people inside. 413 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: We always said that when they get you set up 414 00:19:06,039 --> 00:19:06,559 and whatnot. 415 00:19:06,839 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: And I always felt like it was that Italian connection 416 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:13,200 with that mouth your lord down here south So South 417 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,519 Footing was always the most dangerous, not the rockers, but 418 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,440 the most dangerous for the people. 419 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: You know. 420 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,759 Speaker 2: And you were barbering, so I know you definitely speak 421 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:24,160 on keeping it cool when you got certain dudes in 422 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,559 your shop. I believe that that's objective. That's objective because 423 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:31,759 you had some guys that had clo that they respect things. 424 00:19:31,839 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: But you know, so out of. 425 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: Border the where I mean back then you know the 426 00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:40,559 guy that you do. They wanted to get anything out dead. 427 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,880 So you know you had certain barbershop that but what 428 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:48,079 puts you on they follow up, Uh they called the 429 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,720 fish tak Yeah, fish tame, getting the fish bowl or whatever. 430 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:52,279 That's where you were in front of the hall. That 431 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,519 mean got asks the same. 432 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: Thing that there would be a Parker and the shot 433 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,920 that back when you can go back there and have 434 00:19:57,039 --> 00:19:58,160 a level of problems. 435 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: People apart while the department O barberships. So that's where 436 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,720 the guy is saying, they say borough ships back out 437 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:04,880 of opposish. 438 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: For and them dude's making good money and then yes, 439 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,440 yes and they know all the dudes and everybody cool 440 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:10,559 with it. 441 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: Everybody messed with the barber. No, nobody that's with the 442 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,400 bar is one of the guys. That's mention. 443 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: Get you connected with whoever they want to be connected. 444 00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:24,480 So yeah, so no question might again some barbers you know, 445 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,519 they graduated to that life because they had they really 446 00:20:29,759 --> 00:20:31,119 all the time they have a reship. 447 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: So again then again that myself not throwing on something. 448 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:34,799 Speaker 4: It was. 449 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: But that's where I got a whole story for myself 450 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:39,759 in this barber again, I don't. 451 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: Know that, I don't know. I'm gonna get a shot 452 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:42,880 out of my dude. 453 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,279 Speaker 2: Remind Shacobs down there in Charlotte, that's my barber and 454 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:46,960 same deal. 455 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: You know everybody in Charlotte. 456 00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:51,519 Speaker 2: You need a plumber, you need this, you need a 457 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:54,279 reg He's spots to hear. 458 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, my man, Oh Mary, you come over there. He 459 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,400 gonna be oh yeah, I'm gonna give you his number. 460 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,480 Every body and Charlotte because. 461 00:21:01,559 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: And then he hooked me up with his young rappid dude, 462 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,480 Big Ponds. My barbers like you, and I've been with 463 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:08,960 the dude Big Barns for like thirty years. But it's 464 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,839 the barber shop dude. And then the baby having it, 465 00:21:12,079 --> 00:21:13,960 you know the dude they put the baby on. My 466 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,319 dude know him Hart and Taylor like ARTM. 467 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,799 Speaker 1: Suther. They didn't his hair cut for like twenty years. 468 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: So when the baby grew up, all that's part and 469 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,400 telling people then even ran there before we got something 470 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,359 called the Southeast Coast Records run the whole thing sending 471 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:27,640 him out. 472 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: Barbershare all the time, you know. But yeah when when 473 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,240 you're getting there, you know. 474 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,079 Speaker 2: Barbara always got to protect them from other guys shouting 475 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,519 shot stuff rap. Yeah, man, you're coming the barber shop 476 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:40,200 or auditioning because you know we're into it, and. 477 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:43,799 Speaker 1: The barber guys say, man, this this little bible were 478 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:46,119 not man waste, it's my man. But yeah, you have 479 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,880 a relationship with guys for years, do a big time dude, 480 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,079 and you right there. 481 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: With them because they shrusted you with their head and 482 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:57,119 their information about questioning the barber's most secret said everybody. 483 00:21:57,319 --> 00:22:00,519 Yeah you know who dumb but want to do what 484 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,559 you know to seet do a lot of things behind 485 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:06,039 your series, that lot of spreadiphone, you know what I'm saying. 486 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,799 You know we like about against secrets. You know they 487 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,160 distally went home the issues in the trees. It issued 488 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:16,359 personal issues tho thing. So we we have a really 489 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,079 good shot ta taking all that stuff. And then they 490 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,000 got us old on s u years again. Gives they 491 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:24,920 don't become a client or ex clients. They should be 492 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,119 from my brother. Yeah, that's why it be fun. Those 493 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,839 guys from their brothers. They trust you and trust you 494 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,519 with some very w and. 495 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: When you first started cutting here and guys. 496 00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: First started talking to you by stuff, how did you 497 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,279 taken when you were young? 498 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: And God, remember I was young, and it's. 499 00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: Like you brought way into it when you first set 500 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,480 out and start saying stuff. 501 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: You're like, what I was supposed to say that? 502 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 503 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: You think that when you were first getting in it. 504 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: So when I first got so it was easy because 505 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:54,680 my parents, he is my family members hang up and 506 00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:56,920 so it was eve the conversation with this game. 507 00:22:58,599 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: When when when I met mainstream. 508 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: I say main stream when I got off the out 509 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,480 of the living and I can say I ask for 510 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,839 a barber shot. Yes, I had to learn by way 511 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:10,640 of the experience what I didn't know what you know 512 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,279 what I'm saying, I would not speak on my not 513 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,240 qualified to speak on something. I don't know if I would, 514 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:18,400 you know, subers So and the the time that BRO 515 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,920 can give in different things, becoming more novelable things. Yeah, 516 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,960 learning from different people that come in and out the 517 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,039 Barkers shop. Yeah, you know who you got it. 518 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 3: So that's that's one of the biggest things that I've learned, 519 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,400 you know, And thinking of borrowers about the hands. 520 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't be about to have some tonical experience. Yeah, 521 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:37,640 the conversations. 522 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,559 Speaker 2: If that's not in sential part of them, get them, 523 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:42,880 get the spike to sit down and get talk. Yeah. 524 00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:45,680 And you ain't got a choice, man, because the guy 525 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:47,400 come there and cuts your heir and got something and 526 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,039 you get in shared for with thirty minutes and it 527 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,640 got something on their mind. So it's almost like if 528 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,839 you like don't engage that conversation, you can lose your client. 529 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,319 You lose that meaning because they really like yo, man, 530 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,880 like you know, but plus they understand you that you 531 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,799 can do that and talk to them. Man, I got clients. 532 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Do that, man, cut my hand? Man cut They come 533 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:08,480 back to it because it's a little. 534 00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:11,279 Speaker 2: Therapuy and just you're here man, if we don't stand 535 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:13,839 at it with the barber like, plus they trust you, dude, 536 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,319 like I'm a wait, so I go on there and 537 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,680 cut my hand and sew my dude. 538 00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:17,799 Speaker 1: Excuse man. 539 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: And in some sime they don't wait for everybody yell 540 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,720 you know what I mean, just be stealing do And 541 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:24,759 that happens a lot too, where he's like they don't 542 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,000 want to talk about this stuff with anybody else in 543 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:29,720 the shots. So they come in early, early in the morning, 544 00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:32,880 late at night. You get someone on soon, I get 545 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720 guys move sometimes a lot of clients. They sit and 546 00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:37,880 they listen to the time for long I did. And 547 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,400 sometimes it's like one shirt, you know, art, and. 548 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: It's like talking. Yeah, it's staying in the barber shop, 549 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,559 you know, you can have a conversation. 550 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,839 Speaker 2: And somebody were saying that up holding me, I'm saying 551 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:52,039 and just listening, listen to barber stocks and then I 552 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:52,680 gave him the chair. 553 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: They and nobody any of That's when it becomes person 554 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,680 my mon. Yeah, yeah, okay. 555 00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: Now the prices I started cutting here too the same 556 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,480 time in the eighties, eighty six, eighty seven, five dollars. 557 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Then it went up to ten dollars, then a fifteen. 558 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,559 Speaker 2: Right now, it's not what twenty five dollars for the cut, 559 00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:19,440 fifty dollars, you hear this, dude, fifty doll So I 560 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,759 haven't been in a barber shop because my dude with mine, 561 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:23,720 you know, he would cut me twenty dollars to my duty. 562 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:25,359 So we traded a bunch of back and forth, and 563 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,519 then I cut my own head. I got a handcut 564 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,839 right down with him right now. That's the word we're 565 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,480 using fully with them, you know what. 566 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,079 Speaker 1: I mean, We got a whole lot of words. 567 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:39,559 Speaker 2: But now fifty dollars and then the chimney twenty that's crazy, 568 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,400 But it's a different to the person and the experience. 569 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: So you know, the barbers have actually been ability off 570 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,359 of very very loud wings forgettings. 571 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: So you're talking about. 572 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,279 Speaker 2: Let's say fifteen twenty five like headcus and off of 573 00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:58,599 eleven raids. 574 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,799 Speaker 1: Good some salt more that the tools cost more. 575 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had to elevate the price to off sick 576 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,759 while I'm saying the cost of limit and the cost 577 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:09,440 of public. 578 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,839 Speaker 1: Equipment and many that we do at our time. 579 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so talking about fifty hours ain't a lot 580 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,079 of money when you can send your ladies to the 581 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,000 shot and not there. 582 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:24,319 Speaker 1: She wanted guys spend money on three. 583 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: Hundred dollars speakers and you know, and respectfully he threw 584 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:31,119 up the shortage of or whatever they're like without the barber, 585 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,400 the outfit don't even look deal without us. So why 586 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,559 wouldn't you want to invest the fifty dollars If you 587 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,640 make you feel good, look good and end of the day. 588 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:44,799 You're still laying on us, you know what I mean. 589 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: You're shriuna to get issues, and we still had to 590 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,240 help you do those things as a therapist alone. 591 00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 2: And that's how even in the day of my shop 592 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,039 became the therapist headquarters. I'm a therapist by the tree, 593 00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:58,880 you know what I'm saying. Talk about school with by 594 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,400 trade of experience and coming in and having different people 595 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,920 walk some white fum into your building, can drop things 596 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,440 on you, the whife thing that you had to do, 597 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,680 oh yeah yeah, and you show up man, he got 598 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,839 he got the old felis on. You got the full 599 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:20,400 of little kid. That's crazy because I remember in the 600 00:27:20,519 --> 00:27:23,319 nineties when I was in DC and everybody got into 601 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,039 the grunch style and start putting dark footies on. And 602 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,799 then it was like all the colors disappeared because in 603 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,880 the ages, dude. 604 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: Like everybody was colorful. You walking around, So now you're 605 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,519 concerned about stick up kids and. 606 00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: A because you got jewelry on, you got head because 607 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,960 you got the our peanut glasses. 608 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,279 Speaker 1: You got to get selling gas. I'm talking about. You 609 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,680 got jewelry all over, but you got everything is jeweled up. 610 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: And then they just wanted to miss grunch things of 611 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:48,720 everybody wearing black. 612 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Nobody bit the head becuss. 613 00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: Everybody was you remember that period change, remember that every nineties. 614 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,359 I think the Diamond Shanes with the white T shirt. 615 00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:00,519 White said the white T shirt. So that, as far 616 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,119 as I believe, came from the South, from the South, 617 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,319 I believe that the Florence came from the South and 618 00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:09,599 it got trendy and I get out the dark thing 619 00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:13,160 came from the uh from from rad or you're gonna 620 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,680 call that deal tra okay, track the Land of Stuff, 621 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,079 and then the strong came out of Chicago. Again I 622 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,240 was I couldn't subscribe it because we're an older guy, 623 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:23,440 so I didn't drive over. 624 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know I'm still I 625 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:31,200 still do what I've been doing from eighty something. You're 626 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,119 still trusting fly. 627 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: That's how we gonna fly with the double I was 628 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,559 the first one to put the double yum on it. 629 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Eighty five. 630 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, fly with the two hours instead of one. So 631 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,680 when we see that old mar did that with the book. 632 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,039 But yeah, we had that movie'na it was the song 633 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,680 I bro from the Bookie Boards out the Brook. But 634 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,240 when it was fly under when that song came out, 635 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,359 I had I get in the dispute with my step 636 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,720 foighting up south and down there. So I came back 637 00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,359 to the bottom and I was that was eighty five. 638 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,359 Speaker 1: I was in the bottom when that song came on. 639 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,759 I was at the playground. It was at thirty time 640 00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,720 of the week. He had the playground right. 641 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: There, dude, the whole playground was flying in the bottom. 642 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,319 That's when you had the Mawaiian shirts and the DKCH 643 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,480 shoes and the jewelry and the bracement and come in 644 00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:16,440 there on wats Philly. 645 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: So we had dudes that was iCal. Dudes fly and others. 646 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720 But they don't do that now. Man. It's like it, 647 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:24,559 don't you know if they had a rat period where. 648 00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: And then the girls says brilliant and girls just fell 649 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:28,559 out the bottom. 650 00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: Man, he was used to really be flying. 651 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: And then it came up all about their bodies and 652 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,000 showing off the body because you know, I he had 653 00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:38,640 niggers and clothing and stuff. Can you talk about the 654 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,799 shames and all that. So I'm gonna go with the 655 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,640 with the female thing called correctly. That started transcending with 656 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,200 uh the go go eu one look, but came. 657 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,079 Speaker 1: Out and the biker shorts. 658 00:29:54,039 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: Sorry, that started sension, like the SUTs finding. I think 659 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,200 that's when they came into the forshing with wearing tight 660 00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:08,200 and as a guy, as time progress, it's cheap. 661 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,839 Speaker 1: She looked good, sand, she looked good, spandeth. 662 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: It don't cost a lot of money too. And if 663 00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,039 you got it and got it, so don't been on visital. 664 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,039 Speaker 1: So that's all we need to do. 665 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,319 Speaker 2: Something that attracts. Then they don't battle. When the cross 666 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160 we you know, we give up. We signed my right 667 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,000 for to U pair of tights. 668 00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:28,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't like that. We's coming up. When 669 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:32,359 the girl had layers on, it was almost protected because 670 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,759 then you knew that damn, I got to clothe my game, right, 671 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,319 guy had it? 672 00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: This guy? 673 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 674 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: She had certain layers on. 675 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,759 Speaker 2: You already knew like, oh I got get and it 676 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,240 makes you nervous, you know what I mean. Well, I 677 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,880 wouldn't say later, I would say at that time, you know, 678 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,200 we had we had surgery, joy Asso build. 679 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: The design of jeans had never particular something, you know 680 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:54,160 what I'm saying. So the ladies had designing jeans on. 681 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,519 Speaker 2: Yes, before they branded those those things so Ladys would 682 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,440 be one a time where dress a little different with 683 00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:04,359 the slop sids, so I know, the lay sloped flot 684 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,799 a nice coat. Uh, we call them down coakpartment whatever. 685 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:10,799 Speaker 1: Colos didn't. 686 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: I mean we were very verb turney and fast more 687 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,680 money together. Yeah, that no longer exist on you got. 688 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,319 Now they want to close tight, they want to way 689 00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,759 they closed super small, you know, so I don't know, I. 690 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,359 Speaker 1: Don't get it, but it's so big now they got 691 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,200 their hair thing where you got they just put a 692 00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,680 whole wig on with the whole big hair on the side. 693 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,839 I know they gotta be affecting some of the women's 694 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,079 money with your whole hair. Well, then you can't have 695 00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:35,880 been up here. 696 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,279 Speaker 2: It was one of the things when when he was 697 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,079 younger and their mom, you know, put the little basine 698 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,400 or whatever and the rush. So I guess that's sometimes 699 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,799 streets or something. So it just came from on circle. 700 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880 Somebody did some breathe and baby and did something and 701 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:52,440 the ball. 702 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, going at a lot now. 703 00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: So now you're looking at their hair and you know 704 00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,640 it's not and it's like the norm now and everybody 705 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:00,400 going it like that. 706 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,839 Speaker 1: So because we used to get a. 707 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: Hair blow tried, and bros get a blow trial and 708 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:05,200 put the style and stuff in. 709 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,119 Speaker 1: They being there for like three four hours. If you're 710 00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:11,319 getting natural bread here, you in there all day. Now 711 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,519 they got the chiefs on. They going there for a. 712 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,599 Speaker 2: Dollar and there y'are non agetting, you know, they using 713 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,720 the brow here the babies, you know what I mean. 714 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,039 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just coming too a sound where bands 715 00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:23,839 that this works. 716 00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:27,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know granfually, you know, and get back 717 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:29,599 to times that we rebumble them where you had to 718 00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:31,359 be an individual live you know. 719 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,359 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You had your own flavor, 720 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,799 your own swag, you know, I. 721 00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: Mean, you know what I mean that the temple, everybody 722 00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:43,599 just whatever popular thing they gonna do with the. 723 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring up another Philadelphia. 724 00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: A du by the name of Alan Irison came to 725 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:54,759 Philadelphia ninety six and at that time. 726 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: He had a regular handcut coming out of you know, 727 00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:57,440 George sound. 728 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: All of a sudden he started talking about it, kept 729 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,359 cutting my hair back, so I started doing braidings. Now 730 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,160 Philadelphia was not bracing, you know that we would know 731 00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:11,119 how that was down. Something that Alison dude started maying braids. 732 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,119 Next thing, I know, my little brother waiting by all 733 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,559 that Frank the big time he started playing and I 734 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,680 was selling my girlfriend at the time from DC. 735 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: Do the braids. You know, I'm brading while pulling out 736 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:21,799 your arf. 737 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: Cause next thing, I know, the whole city during the praise. 738 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,200 Then do you remember that and how it affect the 739 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,359 whole barber did? 740 00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:31,119 Speaker 1: That's ninety seven nine six. 741 00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: Seven, like the early bag of late nineties and the 742 00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:36,680 early two thousand because we wasn't in the braiding all 743 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,359 that time of stuff. 744 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,279 Speaker 1: But how how it affected barber So. 745 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,119 Speaker 3: It didn't affect the barbering that much because then we 746 00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:46,319 go on to braize and get the shape us with 747 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,319 the break okay, ship with the braid, you know what. 748 00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean, still STI don't have to build a transit 749 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,640 the money plan take that shape leve. 750 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,799 Speaker 1: Everybody going to catch it a yeah, I mean so 751 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,920 with the day body still. 752 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: Wanted to get that sharp sheep up that yeah yeah, 753 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,079 so you can get the freeze and a head that 754 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,720 sheep up. 755 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 756 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 2: You know so they didn't really they didn't really, so 757 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,159 it still was coming in, still was coming yeah, and 758 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,159 it's still like again you know you come in to shot, 759 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,840 they get to hear breathing the shot or something like 760 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,920 the hear bringing somewhere else. 761 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,079 Speaker 1: I still wanted to get that added, get that as 762 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,039 signed up. So it wasn't that bad man. Uh Now 763 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,800 he got the new thing when he got the napew heads. 764 00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: Coming back, well like, it don't look like. And now 765 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,480 I know my dude with mind Jacobs and Charlotte's like that. Man, 766 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,559 they don't come in and they just let it go. 767 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,679 So what's going on down now? 768 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,519 Speaker 1: I know the old here is still coming because they 769 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:41,119 don't walk the cuts right, but the young boys down 770 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:42,840 how long are they going down? 771 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 5: With the whole? 772 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,079 Speaker 1: You know back then now? And he's talking about fifty dollars. 773 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,079 I know them dudes on one come in here to 774 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:50,159 take no fifty dollars. 775 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: So the thing with that I believe is body gonna 776 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,480 get so somebody being in the home, she SLLL man 777 00:34:59,519 --> 00:34:59,800 how a mo? 778 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: So you know, and he seems something or something want 779 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,440 perfects in it. And now you hit me, you know 780 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,320 what I'm saying. And back in the heaven they had 781 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,199 a blackfoot pump that still got it. 782 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,679 Speaker 2: And you know, back then you still did someone who 783 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,480 wanted to wear Natville which and that ain't really nothing 784 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,280 about it from. 785 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 786 00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah that when we're growing up our old adults or 787 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,840 over here and froze and shape ups. Wasn't that so 788 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,679 it was a shock shape but it was still still 789 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,559 which was lined up neat thing bruns. 790 00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: You don't watch it there, you know, it's just it's easy. Yeah, 791 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,719 it's easy probably that's what it is. It's awfu effects 792 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,239 for them. Like I said, they don't want to read 793 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,119 it figure out. You rather need to fleet out for 794 00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:49,679 something else. 795 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,599 Speaker 2: Now A yeah, I'm thinking about what us coming up 796 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,519 our over here is for saying something about the professional world. 797 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: Do you ever have to have a conversation to the 798 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,800 nap here? Do? Like you what kind of sounding now? 799 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,119 If you are asking the door, I get it. You 800 00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:07,159 do what you want to do. But when you trying 801 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,360 to do job and stuff and we start hearing out 802 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,559 young doing something and everybody will hide me and you 803 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,320 look at that, and. 804 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: So it's a catching. You know, they're not going to 805 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,280 exterminate based on your head, but their business. You're out 806 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,679 here something. 807 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: So I don't know how they unpl them on the 808 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,719 other style. But when I do the young guys that 809 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,440 look for work. I saw that some point you might 810 00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:30,320 to take. 811 00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: Care of then meeting it up. What he's doing weird, 812 00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,480 it is trendy, but she might to make it with me. 813 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,920 So we have tryed that like that look that I'm 814 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,840 making read you. 815 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, because I hear it all the time 816 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:45,440 that you know they're rechecting. 817 00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:49,079 Speaker 1: But I'm like, yo, dude, every business wants a certain look, 818 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:49,559 you know. 819 00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: What I mean, Like if your look is not in 820 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,000 lined with what they want, that you can't keep me. 821 00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:56,199 I'll put a hand spin certain w out of the kid, like, 822 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,960 don't do like you can't come to them. 823 00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:01,039 Speaker 1: Then we had the whole pants hanging down. And now 824 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,840 when we were coming up, we had. 825 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,079 Speaker 2: Name belt, we had a snake stim boat, so we 826 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,760 had the double. So when that happened, I'm like, and 827 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,119 then we still had fights and stuff. We had to 828 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,599 run sometime. You know something you're wrong from the So 829 00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:16,639 I'm thinking you can't run your pants hanging down. And 830 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,719 then even when you go on like the post office, 831 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,199 somewhere one behind the dude, you got whole for work 832 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,360 so you can see everything. So now the dude's in 833 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,280 front of me were the score of the booms out 834 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,559 and I'm like, Joe, do it And they didn't say 835 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,719 something like looking at it. I'm not looking at you, 836 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,440 but I can see everything, you know what I mean, 837 00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:33,760 like you, I don't do that job to transcending me 838 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,559 and I have eyes so at this point and that 839 00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,360 not do that though you want the god that don't 840 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,119 represent that, that's pre see that. That's the day I'm working. 841 00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:44,320 A young man walk across the street and his parents 842 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,679 asked me at the back of the. 843 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: Trunk, look like. 844 00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,559 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and they didn't understand, sat 845 00:37:54,639 --> 00:38:00,480 again and spelled sanging backwards me his niggas good crazy 846 00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:03,880 so that you shouldn't have to represent your family. Last 847 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,159 day I was living on a draw. The young guys 848 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,559 come by washing didn't even know what you projective out 849 00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:10,679 of me. 850 00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, they don't even know what the boards from 851 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,639 that saggon They ca yeah, no, and again it I 852 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:22,639 can't be the guys never crazy, you know what I mean. 853 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,079 I seen some sagon with that. Yeah, I mean so. 854 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,519 But that's the thing. 855 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:30,679 Speaker 2: That's like when we came up, we understood the overheaded 856 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,559 young bucks system. 857 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna overhead and spoke you shut up. Man. It's 858 00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,440 like now it's like the guys like you now over 859 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,760 here's the kind of tendency to even say something. And 860 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,480 I didn't come up that way, man. I mean we 861 00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:44,639 came up with go over here and want to say something. 862 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,000 You took it. Now it's like we hesitated. Is this 863 00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:50,159 young girl want to receive it? That kind of the 864 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,000 kind of feel like it changed. 865 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,039 Speaker 3: The culture a little bit. They did put the older 866 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,079 guy in the want to do back to lead, and 867 00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:01,480 then the part that we got another personal you something 868 00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:03,320 so your beautants. 869 00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: You want like I just stay lived in here. I've 870 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,719 been arounding so long. 871 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: Some of the young guys got to be knowing things 872 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,639 and I had gone guy and walk the floor like 873 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,079 bro and got away from want to come in and 874 00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:13,519 do things. 875 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: And they joined with the market. But they still respect 876 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,239 when I see something talk. 877 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,079 Speaker 2: They may not tick feet and make the most of 878 00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:23,719 their life, but they still sitting in the head the 879 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,679 arm and they seat the w So you gotta know how. 880 00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:28,079 Speaker 1: To trust to be done there, you know. 881 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 2: And a lot of them because of accidentally father or 882 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,320 accidentally man, and they like they dealing. 883 00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 4: With anger and dealing with their own issues, but they 884 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,639 don't think they don't have a level of understanding or 885 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,400 not being able to receive a man's giving them some 886 00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:46,239 something from reihorhood not being able to see. 887 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,519 Speaker 2: And that's again because when you're in the ball shop, 888 00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:50,679 that's fasting caution swear it is. 889 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: You know, even my mom who ut me here there 890 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,800 the fire, she was like the only woman in there. 891 00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:56,559 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, This shitt So that's the 892 00:39:56,639 --> 00:40:00,760 massive cause, just like basketball, football, tortion, cautu. And that's 893 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,079 where I had some tough cultures, man, where they's like 894 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,559 old school like even arguing. You take the two laps, 895 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,079 go and think about this signatude and then your parents 896 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:09,599 back the. 897 00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: Coaching, Okay, what you telling them? All right, what you 898 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,039 wanna do? The parents didn't go. 899 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,119 Speaker 2: Now you've got parents going against the coaches. The coach 900 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,679 can't say nothing to the kids, the school can't send 901 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,480 that to the kids, the barber can't say nothing. And 902 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,039 then they don't have any fathers in the household. So 903 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,559 now we got a whole lot of problems with young 904 00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:32,320 men that can't take influence from anybody, including the barber. 905 00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:35,679 So that's the process of the massolition because you take 906 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,360 the prob matholicy, you take the band away from a 907 00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:42,239 child who has developed to understand with the man who 908 00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,679 So when we take that band and we stripped him 909 00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:48,679 from being able to particulate or something that this is 910 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,639 what they did to start oper bringing out of the emotion. 911 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,159 Speaker 1: Which is that's the nurture mom say, parent, mom, stuff 912 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,079 like that. But that's when that comes. 913 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,559 Speaker 2: And embarrassments and whome double place embarrassment Bill's character. 914 00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: That's OK, pumping. Yeah. 915 00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:09,519 Speaker 2: So it's a triple death effect that the eights understand 916 00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:14,239 the phrase. That's think it creates moral the three ates principle. 917 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,639 They create so many different things. But a lot of 918 00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,320 them both died great office because we didn't have all 919 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,679 the sign Yeah, and put a lot of them do 920 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,639 whatever you want to do, because then they want to 921 00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:28,079 put the punishment down. That's capping yeah without structure. Yeah, 922 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,920 no structure, Yeah, that was what structure we had. Man, 923 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,360 Like you know, I came up that night and no 924 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,320 matter what happened, I had to do what my pop 925 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,320 asked me to do. And I had a stepfather six 926 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,639 foot four, two point thirty from Overburg. 927 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: High School and he always at I didn't raised no punks. 928 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,840 And when I tell you to do something, I mean 929 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,199 right now, I don't mean yesterday, young lady, and it 930 00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:48,519 would do. 931 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 2: And so I had that physical intimidation where I already 932 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,920 knew and then you get doue to it. 933 00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:56,039 Speaker 1: A man gotta do what the man gotta do. A 934 00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:59,000 man get So we had all them now in the crazies. 935 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,400 They're not there anymore. Yeah, he bites everybody notions. 936 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 2: And what they feel like though, and I'm like, yo, dude, 937 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:08,039 it wasn't no feeling for my step father. I'm like, 938 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,679 right now, it ain't no feeling you do. And so 939 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,400 I threw up that way. When I gotta do certain. 940 00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: Things, man, it ain't no feeling. Speep, do what you 941 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,320 gotta do. But now we got all these people that 942 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,000 they've made up stuff. I feel just like I don't 943 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000 want to hear that. Now I'm parting. 944 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,039 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, talking about that, and then it's like 945 00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:28,639 it's woking soft now if you can't say nothing. 946 00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: It's funny you said that. So we're gonna move back again. 947 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't only had step father he had to do 948 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,559 so he not only can get in trouble by the 949 00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:43,760 step farther, but just stepp love guys that look like uncles. 950 00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:48,159 Those guys last night. So that was reporter that was 951 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,079 in hierarchy, that could push you in your place. I'm saying, 952 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:54,400 I know I'm growing up. You know I still single 953 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,599 parent home, but I still had five and almost if 954 00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:00,920 I stay seen out of order, they can smack me 955 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,559 around to my mom and smacking around my mom and 956 00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:05,800 my mom by my father. And I already smacked around 957 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,239 by hum. They bought my humble from the smack man. Right, 958 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:14,480 everything was consistent, go out, ain't about Yeah, it's good. 959 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,840 The consequences of your acts and consequences of your action, 960 00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,079 so responsibility possibility. 961 00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: So when you get the counterpoints, I didn't die. It 962 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,320 just made me better. I understood the amination. 963 00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: You know, you go back in school when you when 964 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,559 you act up in school, when your pocket was so 965 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,519 smacked in front of the class a big but yeah, 966 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,559 you know you're not, she said on the twenty five track. 967 00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 3: Right up, now she just act out. You know he'd 968 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,440 be diagnosal kids with this add all the is all 969 00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:44,280 you really need is. 970 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,599 Speaker 1: A man person. If a man in the president, all 971 00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:50,400 can be some care. We need that balance man and 972 00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:50,880 we need. 973 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 3: The balancing man and moment by Yeah, just can't optracize 974 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,840 the man because of money. Yeah, you know I'm staying 975 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,599 outside and PROFESSI he's not meant be there to bring 976 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,760 that child. We all have a job with you, yes, 977 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,480 and you know living in a society now. 978 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: With us to do those things, you know, those things 979 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,840 not exist that what he don't is are portraying his 980 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,800 solf because. 981 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: They don't understand. 982 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 3: They don't understand, they don't understand the consequences. 983 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 1: And so they're sitting behind a bar with a judge 984 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,039 from Yeah, and they didn't get hard with that. 985 00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:28,599 Speaker 2: They accepted then like a big criminals, you know what 986 00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:30,719 I mean, it's still don't learn the mess. 987 00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:33,079 Speaker 1: So while I get a goodest shout out the wilder, 988 00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:36,679 give me a while, learned his lesson and he's really home. 989 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,639 Speaker 2: You know, everybody see that wall where he's not coming 990 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,599 back out trying to use his kings. 991 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: That's a using person. I think that that's gonna work. 992 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 2: You know, well again it was again, and go right 993 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,679 back to society and go right back to America and 994 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,400 go back to them. 995 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:55,159 Speaker 3: What you what you what you get developed in the environment, 996 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,199 you know, you get guys that go in the bark 997 00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:00,400 barkershop and your great story to get themselves. But story, 998 00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:03,360 I mean, I don't understand how glorified jail. 999 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 1: That's challenge. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1000 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,559 Speaker 3: But those guys are great achieved. They had to make 1001 00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:11,199 him fel relevant and talking about their story. I don't 1002 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,960 understand that that culture. I have people with my family 1003 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:15,880 who's done. 1004 00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:19,199 Speaker 1: When I come to did twenty begears? Oh you already 1005 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,159 know people sitting there, and he would never know he 1006 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,960 did twenty Begears. 1007 00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah about that's his friends out here doing AdVac for 1008 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,599 a return from them, detention from them. 1009 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he did twenty eight years. You would 1010 00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:34,639 never get this be talking about the twenty years even 1011 00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:37,679 they don't. Did twenty Gid speak very the least the 1012 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,559 way he carries him of the wave dress and he 1013 00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:42,559 all over the country speaking, you know, to people about 1014 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,119 the entry. You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's 1015 00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,440 not something I think anybody should glorified. That's what the 1016 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,360 down tracks think. That's a you know, write the passage, 1017 00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:52,880 Oh I come home, We're gonna give me all this money. 1018 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,639 That's really that's that's so far from the jail comes 1019 00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:58,960 home with you got a pile of money, right again, 1020 00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:03,960 Matia me a three, right, unless you're a king. 1021 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,599 Speaker 1: Coming out like that, because typically you go in jail, 1022 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,960 somebody else is gonna take gold. 1023 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 2: Well when you're a kid, and then when you leave 1024 00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,159 the streets, you're gonna be the streets. 1025 00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: But a ticket. Yeah, if somebody on cabas what they 1026 00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:22,880 owe you, Yeah that that still gonna be paid when 1027 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,280 come on. 1028 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so go off, not the lord that's still by time. 1029 00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:32,400 That's the word I haven't that you left, attack it. 1030 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,400 If he's out of him, want to come home. He's 1031 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,159 gonna see too of that you are because you put 1032 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,679 in a position some people that I can do. If 1033 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,440 he if he is aching, you're gonna be then you 1034 00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:44,320 go out when you did this for me, take that 1035 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,480 and then you're. 1036 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 1: Never gonna be the full full ticket. 1037 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 2: But you're gonna get honor for what you have deaf behind, 1038 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,800 even if because the negative. Yeah, a lot of guys 1039 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,440 transcending from the streets until the work wakes me, like 1040 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,280 you said, getting jobs for the city, doing other things. 1041 00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:03,079 Speaker 1: That it's the gig is up. Yeah, the gig is up. Yeah, 1042 00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:07,039 you know there's nothing less out head that you can 1043 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:11,559 give without getting severe consequently, yeah, you. 1044 00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 2: Know, your life is worthy. And we saw that, man, 1045 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,119 because when we had the J. B. M. Junior Black Mafia. 1046 00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:19,400 Now we had the black mafia that was in the 1047 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,039 South Field. Then we had that extension in the West 1048 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,039 and South you know, southwest Wood. But that Jay Young 1049 00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:30,599 it didn't last long manning that I didn't have understanding 1050 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:33,000 of it, trying to believe of mafia. 1051 00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,519 Speaker 1: But the move to Yeah, and now look at the 1052 00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:39,599 Barfia that joined up because the move got in the pavious. Yeah. 1053 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,400 So once you once you pumping up this thing, it open. 1054 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1055 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, it just exists. Yeah, so you 1056 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,719 don't and. 1057 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,159 Speaker 2: So we have. 1058 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: At the same time, my New York dudes had the 1059 00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:57,840 outful dude up there. They had the supreme streaming dude. 1060 00:47:58,079 --> 00:47:59,119 Then I went to d C. 1061 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,559 Speaker 2: Man, but I went to Howard at eighty nine, Rayful 1062 00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,440 Evnan's had just gone to prison. And so when I 1063 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,199 got to d C, because it became a working capital 1064 00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:10,760 for three years in the road ninety ninety one to 1065 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,400 ninety two, because all the guys that were Underrateful wanted 1066 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,559 to take over and soon they went to jail. 1067 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: And in d C, like Yo, John to catch from 1068 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,119 my nordaland fifty dudes was popping up in trunks and stuff. 1069 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,360 It was Bishop and d C was. 1070 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:27,159 Speaker 2: I can call it the white cottle City because I 1071 00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:29,000 did a book on a brother by the bag Barni 1072 00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,360 and Barry that Ray in the city. He had so 1073 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,239 many summer jobs, so many Italians where black people get money, 1074 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,039 and black people got more. 1075 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: Money in that city, dude. 1076 00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 2: So when I came down there in Philly were still 1077 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,239 blue college. So you got a nice car something, that's cool. 1078 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,159 Speaker 1: Bro, you get to d City. What's your drivel? What 1079 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,239 you take them your shot? I was crazy. 1080 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,559 Speaker 2: Now it is like, oh, man, d C was visiting 1081 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,400 d c's the women down there, I'm gonna bring it 1082 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:55,719 with him. 1083 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 1: In d C being at whatever that that same ones. 1084 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,840 Back then, they had this white transit open to the women. 1085 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:05,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1086 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,159 Speaker 1: The money upot to god. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1087 00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:12,119 Speaker 2: And they had different brothers down there, man, because they 1088 00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:14,239 were willing to say up here, you know, we had 1089 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,119 more hustlers that wanted to keep the money, you know 1090 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:18,760 what I mean. So I was coming from Philly, but 1091 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,719 I'm like we don't take girls shopping. My dog famailure 1092 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,199 that you're gonna you're gonna go shopping, but you got 1093 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,239 to do a whole out the door shopping and philly 1094 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,360 out there like but down there, dude, they was going. 1095 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,159 Speaker 1: Shopping a lot down they're dude. 1096 00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:34,159 Speaker 3: That's that's a conditione that they came up only with. 1097 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 2: God got some money, keeping the freest girl or he 1098 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,280 need over together, keep her satisfying. 1099 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, money his power is that right. Yeah, money is fothering. 1100 00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:47,519 But you get that money and then you get that 1101 00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:50,960 that's the young chud coming out of there, same thing 1102 00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:53,320 with the wrap. Then these rapp hus. 1103 00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 2: Man and mind's funny, get the shwimming shopping there, and 1104 00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,639 now we got this new I called him awful money. 1105 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,039 And they got there making their own money. And they 1106 00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,480 got their own guy, They got their own house, they 1107 00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:06,360 got their own cargs. And he starts talking at this, Okay, 1108 00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:09,800 we're still been okay, like I'm not I'm. 1109 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,599 Speaker 1: Not gonna be a pet. 1110 00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:13,119 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be got help like I hear it 1111 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,920 when I'm telling women like her. When you finished saying 1112 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,719 all that, you're still dealing with a man. He ain't 1113 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,679 trying to be your pet. 1114 00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: So I don't want know how we're gonna deal with that, 1115 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,880 this new manhood thing as a barber. 1116 00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:26,159 Speaker 2: You got guys coming there because I know my dude 1117 00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:29,480 of mine is dealing with relationships all the time. Guy's 1118 00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:32,159 coming here, the man, My wife did this, not here 1119 00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:34,679 to do that. I know, you know her all conscumer 1120 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:40,320 brog That's one of the biggest things. I don't know society, 1121 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,880 right man, you know report Yeah, it's no moreman asking, Yeah, 1122 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,159 no more God damn woman, it's God woman. 1123 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: And sometimes they want to build something beyond God. 1124 00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 2: When she has me, I'm the prize, I'm the prize 1125 00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:57,840 ship and it's okay, it's stood when it's ok You know, 1126 00:50:58,519 --> 00:50:59,639 I had an idea. 1127 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,679 Speaker 1: That my wife to be away from him, to be 1128 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,239 somebody's pride. Yes, he can be somebody's pride. So different 1129 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,159 than a man so much. 1130 00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just be that he lived in society way down, 1131 00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:10,320 getting beside himself. 1132 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,519 Speaker 1: But they all lem me understand, there's no walls. You 1133 00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:17,519 need a woman, yeah indeed, Yeah, but we gonna need 1134 00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,599 women who wants they need it. Yeah, it's hard. 1135 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 3: Women need fascilating, that's the order, right, But yes, it's 1136 00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:27,000 not hard. After it's hard for somebody who is not 1137 00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:29,519 an oubumsel. Yeah, you know, I mean I would self, 1138 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,800 you know, your wife wild both you gotta be filmed 1139 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,400 only ware gonna be a killer. Yeah, understand how you 1140 00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:38,800 think I kind of act to think she thinks she's 1141 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,199 not think it sharp to me. The king is the 1142 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,840 man that's calclated with men. The bos so a man 1143 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,079 moving on the same film and the same film of 1144 00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:48,039 f shes going on. 1145 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,159 Speaker 1: And that's what makes a difficult for me. Yeah. Yeah, Well, 1146 00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:52,679 you know, so many black women. 1147 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,159 Speaker 2: Talk about having to do all the shots in the community, 1148 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,159 you know what I mean, raiding the. 1149 00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: Sun again, that's a sorry amount not having the men 1150 00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,599 as the cold shift, the barbers, the old heads, the whole, 1151 00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:02,519 you know what I mean. 1152 00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:05,119 Speaker 2: That they pulled them away from it and hadn't got 1153 00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:08,440 women by themselves. I'm the plumber, I'm the housewife, I'm 1154 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,920 a policeman. And then they and then they enveloped more 1155 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,960 that than that. I got boss like that too that, 1156 00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:14,480 you know what I mean, They take on a lot 1157 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:16,679 more that, and so yeah, they end up with that 1158 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,679 now and. 1159 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,599 Speaker 1: Then they use that and it's why, Okay, you don't 1160 00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:22,639 have to do that now. And I wrote about that. 1161 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,559 Speaker 2: I had a booked call a single Motive where dude 1162 00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:26,880 was a truck trolloy and he hooked up with the 1163 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,119 woman that had two sons with two little dudes, and 1164 00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:31,599 it's like, look, I'm fool that I can take all 1165 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,280 lock it up because they're not used to the load 1166 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,480 not being away from them, so now they want to 1167 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:37,079 keep that note. 1168 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: It's like, look, I can use some of that stuff. 1169 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to do all that, but they 1170 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,079 locked into it like they have to. And now they 1171 00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,400 don't trust you to do that, but because they haven't 1172 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,679 trusted men. But it's like, look, you're gonna have to 1173 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,840 trust me to do what I do as a man. 1174 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,800 You're gonna have to where you're gonna be in a 1175 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,880 relationship with the dude. 1176 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: A lot of that they trusted trust. That felt so. 1177 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 2: So what have been times I'm mis understanding, But it 1178 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,840 feels like if somebody makes you feel sick, I mean, 1179 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,719 don't feel safe about it. 1180 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,079 Speaker 1: May not. I'm not gonna say, man, I'm gonna save 1181 00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:12,960 the mails out that I want to feel sick because 1182 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,440 the manhood is safe for your men. You're talking a man, 1183 00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:18,639 make it for business safe for them. 1184 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, understand, don't understand still development. So and if you 1185 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,880 want to talk about like far as Weben and Webin, 1186 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,679 I'm starting for some of the event that's out here. 1187 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,280 Because either son that you're reason getting a home, not 1188 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,519 giving them a stocks ability. 1189 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: He talking on them. Maybe them think they bark about 1190 00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,639 not them boards. You know what I mean, y'all give 1191 00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:37,159 him order. 1192 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 2: With the environments that want to teach him. I'm gonna, 1193 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,320 you know, show them the manhood. If you're not a man, 1194 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,559 you'll never be in a mann't don't like the building, 1195 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,679 don't do that that's interested. 1196 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,559 Speaker 1: But if you say that, us being the old school. 1197 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,519 Speaker 2: We thought about peculating what you need so you can 1198 00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:56,800 feel manly enough to be the one. 1199 00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:58,679 Speaker 1: You know, economics is the part of it. 1200 00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: You don't want to be alive when you can't do 1201 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,039 certain things. We try to leave it, bro because it 1202 00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,679 makes you feel less. Now you got money with us, 1203 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,480 like I don't leave you to do this, don't need you. 1204 00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:09,960 It's almost like they money to do a partnership. But 1205 00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:12,360 if you go into a partnership and you still not 1206 00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:16,239 feeling comfortable, then yeah, I'm looking at that like, because you're. 1207 00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: Half way there. Now you're getting with the woman and 1208 00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:21,920 halfway there, and so now I'm like, I don't know. 1209 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 2: I only feel comfortable because I grew up a certain 1210 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,599 way where man said you here before you get with 1211 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,119 that woman. 1212 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,199 Speaker 1: But now the woman is saying, I don't need you 1213 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,599 to do all that you halfway in there. I don't 1214 00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:35,960 trust that because the old school. I don't know how 1215 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:36,880 the young boys do that. 1216 00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:39,599 Speaker 2: If you don't have what you're supposed to have, or 1217 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:42,400 if you gonna think that this woman's gonna shot up 1218 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,400 there and share with you, and because. 1219 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: Great we prow up. If you didn't have it and 1220 00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:49,400 she wondered you you know you want to reach out, 1221 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,400 she can go grab another. 1222 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,519 Speaker 2: So now I'm trying to hesitant about if I don't 1223 00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:55,360 have it and she gonna move off from me, it's 1224 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,639 like a weeper position. I don't know if the young 1225 00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:01,079 guy's store that thing. No, I don't not having any 1226 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,039 economic both powers economy. 1227 00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:08,639 Speaker 1: If I don't have it, don't people you should? You should. 1228 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,079 Speaker 2: They'll be comfortable because they're still a man, and with 1229 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,280 God put it and then out of wholes that illustrate 1230 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,599 that long as you have earning potential. Yet earning potentials, 1231 00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:19,719 we can get VAMPA. So as long as they have 1232 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,639 teachers can be served in revery. But you have to 1233 00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:26,440 have to understand the what's your purpose in doesn't purpose? 1234 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, purpose, then you're going to fall short in those areas, 1235 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,079 you know what I mean, And that that's something that 1236 00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:35,960 you learn. You know, you have an interest or something 1237 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,599 you want to learn, no different than these video games. 1238 00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:41,320 I'm for these kids, that's the neat way even get money. 1239 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,679 Speaker 2: But in reality they taking away from the basket then 1240 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,320 name of getting none of the farm fixing side, Yeah, 1241 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,039 you know what I mean, it's some environment on the 1242 00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:49,480 day when the girls fixing them hired the. 1243 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,079 Speaker 3: Guys saying they're looking as that was crazy. I see 1244 00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:54,079 guys watching girls from that. I mean, I see so 1245 00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:57,000 many different things that you know, but these are these 1246 00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,039 guys don't know. And it's the shame they don't know 1247 00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:02,840 because the man is not pressing to show me. You 1248 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:03,440 know what I'm saying. 1249 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, when they see every single bomb doing all these everything, 1250 00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:08,159 they they gotta do everything. 1251 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 1: Well, my mom let her do y'all. You're supposed to 1252 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,199 detect at all times. 1253 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 2: But you know, again, that's that's that's what society is 1254 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,480 gonna putch away. And then these women aren't having children, 1255 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,880 bringing children in this world by men who they already 1256 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,360 know all one to kid because they want the kid 1257 00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,679 to think that the man is going to change something 1258 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:34,840 or change like man. 1259 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:37,800 Speaker 1: That you know. 1260 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,119 Speaker 2: Then once you get any boy yourself, then you become 1261 00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:43,280 angry and bitter and then against me reality. 1262 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,199 Speaker 1: It's it's the account really is gonna do, not that man. 1263 00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:49,079 It's both of y'all want to be wrong, but you 1264 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,840 had you knew that this person. 1265 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,199 Speaker 3: And I believe everybody could take inventory on an individual 1266 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,320 that they considered going to be their partner each other. 1267 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. And again I'm not 1268 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,079 I act like I was perfected. I made some dad 1269 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,199 sitting to myself, you know, having children with women. I 1270 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,320 know I didn't a going to. 1271 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 2: Be you know what I'm saying. Yes, I raised my 1272 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,920 two sons, but I had one daughter that I didn't 1273 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,400 bringe that I walked away from him because we did 1274 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,800 agreek with something and and she boke agreement. So I said, listening, 1275 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:22,239 you're young, and that's in my maturity. You know what 1276 00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:24,599 I'm saying, My immaturity. You know in my own time, 1277 00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:25,519 you know, and. 1278 00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: Came full circle better and went doing up there. You 1279 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,039 know what I'm saying. 1280 00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:33,239 Speaker 2: So you know, I just again, I just believe that 1281 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,000 women and young ladies need to understand that you're dealing 1282 00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,079 with different men. 1283 00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: Don't we dealing with young. 1284 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,239 Speaker 2: Men that bringing a child in head And it's it's 1285 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,400 not that you know, it's somebody in loved room. 1286 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: This is this is a lifelong situation that they promise 1287 00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:49,159 you had more than John. 1288 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary and you young me and the dad. You 1289 00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:54,639 know what I'm saying, you're walking by birth, but you 1290 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,519 become a mom. I'll take care of the guide and 1291 00:57:56,599 --> 00:57:58,840 his kid, and the dad is very very necessary to 1292 00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,360 that element. 1293 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot to take on. Man, he does 1294 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,719 another thing. But I'm thinking about the barbers and the family. 1295 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 2: And we're sitting at the corner, you know, a barbershop here, 1296 00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:13,800 So we start thinking about ownership of property. Right, you know, 1297 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,519 either Barbara Gorton or they owned that property. And but 1298 00:58:18,719 --> 00:58:20,920 you're not going to be cutting somebody else and they're 1299 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,039 old here is they owned the property, you know what 1300 00:58:23,079 --> 00:58:25,280 I mean. So that's another thing he's starting to lose. 1301 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,760 Now we're in Philadelphia about seven and ten years ago. 1302 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,519 Speaker 1: My family in South Philly. 1303 00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 2: Ask me my aunt, the Dominicans they moving in everywhere, Dude, 1304 00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:36,519 the Dominicans, every. 1305 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: Dad fring the store in the city. That was y 1306 00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:42,239 when they first start talking. But now thinking about the barbers, 1307 00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:45,159 we like the only ones in the hairs wresting that 1308 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,119 own any own property, any no small thing in the city. 1309 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,199 Speaker 2: Under the I'm not gonna say every barber, some barber has. 1310 00:58:55,719 --> 00:59:00,519 Some barbers had when who ownership of buying the buildings start? Yeah, 1311 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,840 fortunate enough, I didn't make that decision. I made some 1312 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,079 bad civil financially that I'm married, you know I mean. 1313 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,000 And then in the Barbari game, if it's not passed down, 1314 00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:13,840 it's not sport, you know what I'm saying. So you 1315 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,039 know these things hadn't pass down. You know, living in 1316 00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:19,079 a society black people for sometion, ain't the reason that 1317 00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:23,000 we passed down? Generational problem then apposed trying to free 1318 00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:26,360 generational well, yeah so you me and so long it 1319 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,239 might be a generation to transcend those things to become 1320 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,679 and didn't like children the generational well they got the books. 1321 00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:35,519 Speaker 1: So this is what I did. I'm gonna leave a 1322 00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:37,920 legacy this but this is just on my shoulder. What 1323 00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:38,920 you're gonna be fairy? 1324 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:39,079 Speaker 2: You know? 1325 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. How you gonna how you 1326 00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:43,119 gonna fall this? Yeah, you know what I mean. I 1327 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,400 told my sons to come here. One didn't want to 1328 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,519 come here and talk about I guess that. 1329 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 2: And then that Daryl said, you didn't want all of 1330 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,159 a sudden mind cut, but he wanted them something different, 1331 00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:54,519 so he and it wentitentially right now, you know. 1332 00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: And because if I got it then or I had 1333 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,320 nothing before, we. 1334 01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 3: It died and dies with me. Yeah, it does coming right, 1335 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,079 it doesn't me. So it's a it's a lot of things, man. 1336 01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:09,639 And by the grace of God, I was able to 1337 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,039 teach a few young men how to cut and you 1338 01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:15,639 know things. But they doing differently. I don't think borrow 1339 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,679 the things that they want to make their lives. But 1340 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,280 I didn't think diffault I am about this is the fault. 1341 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:21,960 That's by the fault. 1342 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: This is about it. It's a guy that I'm behind 1343 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,000 the share. Yeah. 1344 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're out in the field man, when you're not 1345 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,800 able to you know your own kids, man, as I 1346 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:31,880 got two sons. 1347 01:00:31,639 --> 01:00:35,159 Speaker 1: To them and we can't really influence all the stuff 1348 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,760 he did. And then you got the own mind. 1349 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,559 Speaker 2: It's to do like talking about it just it's because 1350 01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:45,559 you see what they need to do, but they won't 1351 01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:45,880 do it. 1352 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,039 Speaker 1: They got their own plass. 1353 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,079 Speaker 2: So for me, whatever I tell my sons, whatever you 1354 01:00:52,119 --> 01:00:56,679 get based fifty Vinci figure it out. 1355 01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 3: All these did dad damp passion even though he be 1356 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,960 one for the Yeah, you can't do. 1357 01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:07,039 Speaker 1: They life so different than we candle off. I look 1358 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:12,079 like came for man because we already see my dad 1359 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,880 but he can't see it. You can't see it. 1360 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,639 Speaker 2: But they the part of my dad that they had 1361 01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:18,000 to said this is so they might have stories I 1362 01:01:18,039 --> 01:01:19,039 did it open the store before. 1363 01:01:19,159 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: I was number of pot shops they joint, but that 1364 01:01:22,119 --> 01:01:23,719 that was the bourth of citing after the day that 1365 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,920 that wasn't where I was at. I was handling, wasn't 1366 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,000 my kneas. So if I go up to the border 1367 01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:30,639 bar the build the nigga bars at the time, having the. 1368 01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:34,719 Speaker 2: Financialsability that I had, I would break break then you 1369 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,280 know what I'm saying. 1370 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,559 Speaker 1: So my dad said, I'm saying, oh this is for this. 1371 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:41,239 He was gonna go rock. Yeah, that's no that's no 1372 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,760 shot on bike with my dad's at that good time. 1373 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,880 That's what he did. That's what the father did. So 1374 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,599 when I did it, it was like a sugar out 1375 01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:49,599 this thing. But it wasn't. 1376 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,599 Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I'm saying. So with my son, 1377 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,199 my son, no the bar. I can't get something that 1378 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,760 I'm gonna put that on. But what what's your strength? 1379 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: What do you? Yeah? 1380 01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:04,679 Speaker 2: Live in every man and woman a gift to treat 1381 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,239 for themselves. Every man woman got bi treat me. They 1382 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,840 may not know that, they may not even identify by 1383 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,280 this day. 1384 01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:16,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, this baby. So I said, now you know, to 1385 01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:18,360 start working stept and here working with me. That's what 1386 01:02:18,519 --> 01:02:18,920 the school. 1387 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,159 Speaker 2: I talk about school all the time. School was okay, 1388 01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,000 the school was cholce in it for me. I didn't 1389 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,480 in high school got because I excel in streets, you 1390 01:02:28,519 --> 01:02:31,000 know what I'm saying. But at the same time, I 1391 01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:33,880 worked so much in the streets that I still had 1392 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,679 my understanding of school. I still being I still was 1393 01:02:36,719 --> 01:02:40,320 struggling my skills. Yeah, academically on different levels. You understand 1394 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,880 all the college that the mind they followed different to 1395 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,239 each of them. To me, it's a I subscribed to 1396 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,639 treat yeah, trade will never never. Yeah, you know, I 1397 01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:52,599 got funded up with the clouds, got pass. 1398 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,079 Speaker 1: And trees, and they got job. They was working and 1399 01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:55,639 down and work for stuff. 1400 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 2: They get jobs in the field that they go to 1401 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,880 school and they I'm saying, yeah, you know what I'm saying, 1402 01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:05,079 they got a knock knock it out, you know for sure. 1403 01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't trade schools. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's rough man. 1404 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 2: So we were sitting here talking in the barber shop 1405 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,880 twenty first Street in South hood of elf Is where 1406 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,960 he came up the same thing I came up with. 1407 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,039 Speaker 1: Where it's the old school manhood. 1408 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 2: Now they got this new thing called emotional intelligence, and 1409 01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,679 it's the new thing. And when I hear emotional intelligence 1410 01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:29,960 that I hear woman talking about it, I get it. 1411 01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: I understand it. But it seems like they don't understand 1412 01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,920 how emotions, you know what I mean. It's like it's 1413 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:35,559 all for them. 1414 01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:38,519 Speaker 2: What about when a guy is hurt or embarrassed and 1415 01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:40,519 you know, we simply we don't have that, and we 1416 01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:44,039 get angry because we're embarrassed, and then we shut down 1417 01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:46,199 because nobody want to talk about it. But when they 1418 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,480 can arrival in their emotional on town. We're supposed to 1419 01:03:48,599 --> 01:03:51,639 understand that, but they don't understand how emotions and what 1420 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,719 we're going. It seems like it's a it's. 1421 01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:58,079 Speaker 1: A one level or one angle type of philosophy. He's 1422 01:03:58,079 --> 01:03:59,199 the emotional on sellience. 1423 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 2: Can't even look that way because I don't hear I'm 1424 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,239 talking about the intelligence emotionally of men. 1425 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,639 Speaker 1: It's just all what you need to understand about women. 1426 01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's the lack of emotional intelligence. You have 1427 01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:14,599 those toads understand. I was sent to emotional treating you. 1428 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,280 It's needless emotions. Yeah, that men are bread. 1429 01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: Not that they sposed on me. 1430 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,239 Speaker 2: Don't be a girl like like a pup like that. 1431 01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:26,800 But you know all that stuff, and I'm holding So 1432 01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:28,960 I grew up even I was four years old. Were 1433 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,519 playing football in the basement and we got to tag 1434 01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:34,039 the wall for a touchdown. And then my uncles and 1435 01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:37,239 cousins on their mean these trickles every time you fall 1436 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,760 on your elbow, bowl, your shoulders, your head and the knee. 1437 01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:42,920 And then my grandma be short thought be w so 1438 01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:47,440 me and the whistling. You know, so my grandma's over here. 1439 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: If I'm four years old with me be damn so 1440 01:04:51,159 --> 01:04:53,199 I'm taking it. But you learn and do that. 1441 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,159 Speaker 2: So now by the time I'm seven, I got hit 1442 01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,000 by a card on thirty the asses between thirty seven. 1443 01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:02,239 There you're trying to show off front of my girlfriends. 1444 01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:03,960 You got to fight, and he's trying to ride in 1445 01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:04,920 between the cars. 1446 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't work, and I hit that ver dude. It 1447 01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:10,559 was a three party. I hit the car, hit the 1448 01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:14,599 window popped up. That got up of seven, dude, her model. 1449 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,159 My god, I'm sitting there so I can take this. 1450 01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:20,679 Don't bleeding and whatnot because you grow up with that 1451 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,079 d of said dude, and then you get a woman 1452 01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:25,360 later w talking about it. I'm like, dude, do you 1453 01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:26,960 know how many emotions. 1454 01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 2: I'll never prod the payment never if we gotta fibble 1455 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,800 out up? Now, how do I converse with dude who 1456 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,079 pride the paint off the time? 1457 01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:38,119 Speaker 1: You know? So that level of suppressing pain became angry. 1458 01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,760 He come to see the time we had to have. Yeah, 1459 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,559 but you believe it or not, be all brown, proud 1460 01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:49,000 and dark. 1461 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 3: Try o the long one crying and ring. You will 1462 01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:55,519 read some conditions and not produc in front of the one. 1463 01:05:56,239 --> 01:06:00,719 But that's the release man. And then I was like yourself, 1464 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,920 you know, I was. I was taught the same thing, 1465 01:06:03,079 --> 01:06:04,000 but my profession was. 1466 01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:05,079 Speaker 1: Pain even change out. 1467 01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:10,679 Speaker 2: I believe that emotional intelligence among them with understanding that 1468 01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:14,519 we are a meement and we we deal with res, 1469 01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:20,519 we deal with pain, we deal with uh, disappointment different Yeah, yeah, differently, 1470 01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:22,199 But I have to deal with in a way where 1471 01:06:22,239 --> 01:06:26,320 we're not projecting it on I, significant others or someone else. 1472 01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:30,800 And that's where that intelligence coming, that not projecting one. Yeah, 1473 01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:33,519 and I think you know, we were growing up, you 1474 01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:35,800 know what I mean. I just didn't want to see 1475 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,239 you the bride to be worried one boy and it 1476 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,360 wasn't it was cool for a boy to brown, you 1477 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,239 know what I mean. But we had private boys, you know, 1478 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,239 out taking boots of privacy. But this day around we 1479 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:46,920 live decided. 1480 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:47,079 Speaker 1: Man. 1481 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 2: They bet that emotion and social present it comes out 1482 01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:53,000 anger and it comes back. That's why we had so 1483 01:06:53,079 --> 01:06:56,119 much murder. It comes out of post of anger not 1484 01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:58,599 being a control yet emotion not being an advantage emotion. 1485 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 3: He'd be talking post we can do something, and then 1486 01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:04,079 after we've done it, it's to make the apostles take 1487 01:07:04,159 --> 01:07:05,639 on a life sent come death. 1488 01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1489 01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:10,199 Speaker 3: So I believe emotional tells has always been around, was 1490 01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:13,320 just different ways. And then you had the process in 1491 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,280 your own. Yeah, I'm sorry Crossings and A. That's when 1492 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,920 we started figuring it out. But I mean it's good 1493 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,000 that it's how I am now and the information out 1494 01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:21,360 here now for they learned. 1495 01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 1: That they had for us them. Yeah, that when we 1496 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,599 get to the end of our wrap up. 1497 01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:32,079 Speaker 2: Uh, the retro movement here we gained the barber skeek 1498 01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:34,440 in South Philadelphia from West Philodol. 1499 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,559 Speaker 1: We had a long conversation detailing about all the aspects of. 1500 01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 2: Being a barber on and properly dealing with young boys 1501 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,519 coming through the shops, having them wisdom of a barber. 1502 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,719 Speaker 1: And now the new generation we have, we don't have 1503 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,880 as much influence old hens, young boys. I want to 1504 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,320 wrap up this thing by doing this. 1505 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 1506 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,079 Speaker 1: They got the words and they use it out there. Now. 1507 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 2: I came up with over here young buck all the time. 1508 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,840 Now they got the West coastuff. 1509 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,239 Speaker 1: They don't really understand the snoop Dogg with the all 1510 01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:04,800 and the nephew and the old she. Now I always 1511 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,639 rejected the old she. You know, we we know it's 1512 01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:09,480 a worshal. 1513 01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:12,119 Speaker 5: Gangster, and I ain't never been no gangster. We all 1514 01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:14,679 know against it, trust me, we all know gangst to 1515 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,319 be old gentleman. But the whole term old she I 1516 01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:20,800 always paused like I grew up with old. Now I'm 1517 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,800 gonna take the old head. I like that because I'm 1518 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:23,319 an old head. 1519 01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 1: Now I look through my strikes and understand stuff. But 1520 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,239 how you look at you know what I mean? 1521 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 2: The difference and changing the culture of language because we 1522 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,520 had our own language. It seems like social media got 1523 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,520 to the front where everybody shared everybody's stuff. Now you 1524 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,119 know what I mean, because we didn't grow up with 1525 01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:39,439 the whole old she thing and the whole you know 1526 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:40,880 snoop dogg gangs stuff. 1527 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,520 Speaker 1: I get it for them, but for me, I don't 1528 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,920 feel comfortable with it. I looked at the term of 1529 01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:50,920 different because that means you had so many of your 1530 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:51,760 things that you look up. 1531 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean old team. I know, well I could 1532 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,239 be a gentleman, you know, I mean see just mean 1533 01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:00,920 that mean you know what I mean. We made it 1534 01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:03,439 from you know, to the trends of a different thing. 1535 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,119 I mean you said I'll go to you like I said, 1536 01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:07,399 not no bangsman. You know what I'm saying, But you 1537 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,399 see old keep because of the thing that I endure, 1538 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,039 the things I that's so big. 1539 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,520 Speaker 1: But think about him. 1540 01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:16,159 Speaker 2: He came up at a time where you know, we 1541 01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:18,920 wasn't supposed to make Yeah, so once you get to 1542 01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:22,560 had fifty round, it's my mind made. Nothing else matter 1543 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,680 going to the fourth broadur lives or anything that's behind that. 1544 01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:30,119 Speaker 1: If you look back, it's a lot of things back then. Yeah, 1545 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:31,840 you know what I mean, a lot of a lot 1546 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,960 of fall and soul is that we thought was gonna 1547 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,880 be here with us. It's no longer witness young here. 1548 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,119 It's about a phone call from the walls. Young. I 1549 01:09:38,199 --> 01:09:40,920 mean that guy that did me goes back and said 1550 01:09:41,079 --> 01:09:43,279 they told me from behind the wall and be saying 1551 01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,359 that I figure on doll saying that you. 1552 01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:47,079 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. So I look at it in 1553 01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:50,840 the form of respect. You know what I'm saying, and 1554 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,880 you know this this this salute, and that I made 1555 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:54,920 it past where I. 1556 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 1: Wasn't supposed to get. So I said, look at so 1557 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,600 I'm still here. That's all I said. We're still here. 1558 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,079 For me to recognize that you've been there. 1559 01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:06,079 Speaker 2: I think our life man, Okay, so that's a new 1560 01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:10,840 way we can't understand in the tune person off and again, 1561 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,039 you know, I respect every young boy at Botterial, every 1562 01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:16,239 young boy, and I probably definitely because I see you 1563 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,560 as a young man that I want to invest with. 1564 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,119 I'm not something about financials. I don't invest in some gold. 1565 01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:25,439 You want to invest in some struggle and to lessing 1566 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,720 Long City. And then you take this a new story, 1567 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,520 the one that you're gonna have something you don't have 1568 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,439 none of it. It's sign gonna be out here doing 1569 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,560 the same thing. It's gonna be handful for you know 1570 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,960 what I mean. And this is the sightly liter man 1571 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,279 everything and the ship with the dice marker. 1572 01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. To live in a society 1573 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,359 where it's normal. Yeah, it's more. 1574 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 2: There's anything gold, but anything gold, anything can happen. And 1575 01:10:49,239 --> 01:10:52,159 look at the results in all right. I find a question, 1576 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,760 are we seeing the young kids coming in the bog 1577 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,680 shot still the les bringing them like I'm five so much? 1578 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,920 Are we still getting that next generation young kids coming 1579 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,239 in their head to us to get that barnership feeling 1580 01:11:03,319 --> 01:11:06,199 them or they got eight guy barners. Now, if I'm 1581 01:11:06,199 --> 01:11:07,560 still talking fronts. 1582 01:11:07,319 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: There's still father shot. But you know what I do 1583 01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:12,159 now when the moms bring them, the man all taks 1584 01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:15,600 the mom way with his father. So I don't agree 1585 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:16,479 with the mothers. 1586 01:11:16,279 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 5: During his son. 1587 01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:20,319 Speaker 2: The moms want a specific kind of everyone o cut, 1588 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,920 and I'll explaining to some of the mom that this 1589 01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:25,479 is this is something that fathers are shaping his son. 1590 01:11:26,199 --> 01:11:28,279 Speaker 1: This is where the fathers should be invested in teaching 1591 01:11:28,319 --> 01:11:30,039 his son understanding of the barn shop. 1592 01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 2: You know when we grew up with those on and 1593 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,680 borrow some busy bumbshow Yeah, this is where you unlover them. 1594 01:11:35,159 --> 01:11:37,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and having the woman around the can on the boat. 1595 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:38,479 Yeah you know what I'm saying. 1596 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know a deat man from here with 1597 01:11:40,399 --> 01:11:43,479 his mother, he'll go hear something and then take it 1598 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:44,199 back to his MoMA. 1599 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,119 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. Well, and to the thinking. 1600 01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:51,159 Speaker 2: So a certain day, maybe they get like twelve or thirteen, 1601 01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:53,560 they start coming by themselves. Yeah, and it's still the saying. 1602 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:58,000 The mino store running didn't from Wow greatly. I had 1603 01:11:58,079 --> 01:12:00,600 guys come the head with the son. They say, she 1604 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,159 want this, she want what you want me? Yeah, it's 1605 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,199 it's a rough thing. It's a very rough thing, but 1606 01:12:08,359 --> 01:12:10,600 it's the way it came to. It's a good resort too. 1607 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:15,359 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's been a great shark man. Me and 1608 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,079 Dame Skeeth the barber, he's down here. 1609 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,600 Speaker 2: In South Philly. We're gonna keep throwing the restaurant movement. 1610 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,880 Respect your roofs. The barber's always the roose. I had 1611 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,880 my head cut five heads old with that dagona hustling. 1612 01:12:27,119 --> 01:12:29,079 I learned how to cut, and then I was cutting 1613 01:12:29,119 --> 01:12:32,680 heads from Stinton Avenue brothers from North Carolina. He brought 1614 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,239 up like five De Paul red I'm being Stinton Avenue. 1615 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,039 He brought up like five different properties in Bluting Corner 1616 01:12:38,079 --> 01:12:41,079 store and said, it's still properly involved with the barbers 1617 01:12:41,119 --> 01:12:43,680 in Philadelphia, so we can make sure that the next 1618 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,760 generation understands how important it is to have the skill 1619 01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:48,520 and that position in the community. 1620 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 1: Lebron James got. 1621 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,720 Speaker 2: The showding Barber that we got our show with Dame 1622 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,680 Steve am We'll let you guys know, I'm into another show. 1623 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,000 The barber's out there and dollars and we got a 1624 01:12:58,079 --> 01:12:59,119 football game coming. 1625 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,640 Speaker 1: Dank stint in the game. The Eagles gotta go to dollars, 1626 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,359 and so then we got the philled Olph with South Philly, 1627 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:06,680 my main character in the book. 1628 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 2: I got coming out for a touchdown at Brazil from 1629 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,399 South Phillies. I got me Italian dude in there. His 1630 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,880 name is Antonio Tony because all right, he's from South Philly. 1631 01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:20,039 But I'm going out to the game for Thanksgiving out 1632 01:13:20,079 --> 01:13:22,880 there in dollars. And we got the barbers b Bryant 1633 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,439 out there to Barbara, got my boy ski over here. 1634 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,159 So we're gonna talk trash Philly to Dallas with the barbers, 1635 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,720 and we in South Philly right now? Are we gonna 1636 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,640 beat them cowboys? Man, the thanks skinners. 1637 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,640 Speaker 1: Elliotts all right, when. 1638 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:45,359 Speaker 2: We got it the egos el e ees egos coming 1639 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,359 to dollars, barn to barter South Philly. 1640 01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 1: To to two dollars for work. We're gonna have some 1641 01:13:51,159 --> 01:13:52,880 fun with this. It's been a great show. 1642 01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:57,079 Speaker 2: Skeet the Barber on the retroal movement, Respect your loose 1643 01:13:57,239 --> 01:14:01,239 posted by Little Wart Salary with My Super Dudes, producer Bolling. 1644 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Denise shows just follow me. 1645 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 2: Denise shows this is the retro movement with Old March 1646 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,720 Salary Valerie. Denise shows the superducer and we just had 1647 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,800 dangn the barber ski down here in South Philly. 1648 01:14:14,039 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 1: Great time, old marsh salary. Make sure we spread the 1649 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,399 work on the retro movie Some Sounds of Life. 1650 01:14:21,079 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 2: You gotta learn how to do things for yourself to 1651 01:14:24,199 --> 01:14:28,439 make sure you maintain the fish and get it done right. 1652 01:14:33,119 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 1: It's restaurant like Shoran back in Chicago. 1653 01:14:36,119 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 2: Punk rock text note, scarf faced South Machino, Deuce leaves 1654 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,600 the old No Hawaii five vote star wars high and Snow, 1655 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,039 no cold brothers, g I show. 1656 01:14:47,079 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 6: New York City, South pot sessame street. 1657 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,159 Speaker 1: El Mo can remold and slow mode. 1658 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,119 Speaker 2: No mocks means no Mo just raining out there. 1659 01:14:55,239 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 1: Don't go moving up like. 1660 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 2: This just since show the urb and three yo y'ad 1661 01:15:00,039 --> 01:15:02,880 don't know what I know made it now, so's y'all. 1662 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,159 Speaker 1: So came up as a bottom kid West Philly. Look 1663 01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:09,520 what he did. No crimes, no bed, no time to 1664 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:10,199 spending there. 1665 01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:14,640 Speaker 2: My cousin's dead, serving gigs, the grandmom's dead droppings here, spill. 1666 01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:19,039 Speaker 1: The wine, drink the beds truly high. Ask why why, guys, why. 1667 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,279 Speaker 2: He's down running streets like super Fly's got high. It's 1668 01:15:22,319 --> 01:15:23,960 got high. Let him know with. 1669 01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:32,560 Speaker 6: Stretch shrub stress shrubs, stretch Yeah, cousins retro like DC, 1670 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,079 You're on a metro Hey Shawdy, no Joe the chicken 1671 01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:40,520 wings with mambos back to Howard University, flow housem go 1672 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,479 go Rindy Berry and sell more parties jumping like shallow 1673 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,920 booking hogh. He's like hello, back of Philly's three feet 1674 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:48,640 of Snow be. 1675 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,680 Speaker 2: Capped on bottomoe, Let go of my age go batman, 1676 01:15:53,079 --> 01:15:55,600 laid gold, drug addictions, just say no. 1677 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Doctor facts backs that flow, no doe, no show, no pain, 1678 01:16:00,359 --> 01:16:00,920 no game. 1679 01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:03,640 Speaker 2: Take it all like Nosey can find a beat and 1680 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,399 make sure Thanks Shalynn. 1681 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,079 Speaker 6: We changed shreek gas buck to sell slang no bucks, 1682 01:16:09,319 --> 01:16:10,319 take the train. 1683 01:16:10,279 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 2: High speed, left lane stayed the same, never changed. 1684 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,279 Speaker 1: Kill Bill Dang Bang Clinton. 1685 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,119 Speaker 2: Eastwood, Steady Dang hide and noon, let him hang and 1686 01:16:19,319 --> 01:16:19,760 let him know. 1687 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:29,600 Speaker 1: It's retro sweet, it's retch row Yeah, man, it's retro 1688 01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:32,600 beat bang from the get go. Feel it all in 1689 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,600 your get so stop the music and hell know what 1690 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,079 the hell you come in ahead for. 1691 01:16:37,279 --> 01:16:40,119 Speaker 2: It's murder on a dance blow Harvard Bow like his 1692 01:16:40,279 --> 01:16:44,159 coon shoe, Sharon Stone and casinos. Basic instinct what's crazy 1693 01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:47,239 you though, good fellas with the nail row, Yanka vishit's 1694 01:16:47,279 --> 01:16:47,760 a weirdo. 1695 01:16:48,319 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 1: I didn't say it, he says. 1696 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,520 Speaker 2: So as somebody he made no back of the pillow. 1697 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,319 Yet genios playing football on a reno thirty eighth Street 1698 01:16:56,399 --> 01:16:57,039 is nine and no. 1699 01:16:57,359 --> 01:17:00,319 Speaker 1: Buy them board. Now watch him blow my ambition. It's 1700 01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:01,600 the show people blaming. 1701 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,119 Speaker 2: I'm serious though, So with silent studios in ages, yell 1702 01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:08,960 with Raphael in the booth that lays down. Rapael got 1703 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,039 the minded this now master technician, how this sound addiction 1704 01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:15,319 to the people, every sound, the fastball from the mountain. 1705 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:16,800 Let them know it's retro. 1706 01:17:17,319 --> 01:17:20,359 Speaker 1: Let them know what's stretch row. Let him know it's retro. 1707 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:21,279 I let him know. 1708 01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:23,159 Speaker 2: I let him know. 1709 01:17:25,159 --> 01:17:31,399 Speaker 1: It's retro. It's it's shtro, it's set stretch show

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