Veterans Day Episode

November 11, 2025

Episode Transcript

Hosts Adam, Paul, and Jerry welcome Carlos de Leon of Monte de Leon Cigars for a Veterans Day episode focused on veteran-owned and veteran-supporting brands. The show features cigar talk and pairings with 10th Mountain Rye, a look at veteran-run beard products, and stories from Carlos about building his traveling humidor and cigar line.

The episode also highlights community support with a charity-driven giveaway, practical advice on starting a cigar brand (licenses, permits, taxes), and the show’s mantra "Figure It The Fuck Out"—mixing candid conversation, tastings, and veteran camaraderie.

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WEBVTT 00:00:11.444 --> 00:00:16.844 You're listening to Bourbon Beards and Belvederes, the podcast where whiskey, 00:00:17.244 --> 00:00:21.544 cigars, and beard products aren't just a hobby. They're a lifestyle. 00:00:22.144 --> 00:00:26.264 Hosted by Adam, Paul, and Jerry, three guys with real experience, 00:00:26.724 --> 00:00:29.464 full beards, and even fuller glasses. 00:00:29.984 --> 00:00:34.464 Each episode serves up thoughtful tastings, laid-back cigar talk, 00:00:34.584 --> 00:00:41.224 and honest takes on beard gear and beyond, from top-shelf pours to everyday essentials. 00:00:41.444 --> 00:00:46.044 This is the place where conversations flow as smooth as the whiskey. 00:00:46.424 --> 00:00:50.844 So, pour a glass, light one up, and enjoy the ride. 00:00:51.144 --> 00:00:54.724 This is Bourbon, Beards, and Belvederes. 00:01:07.763 --> 00:01:11.023 Welcome to Bourbon Beards and Belvedeers. I'm Jerry. And I'm Paul. 00:01:11.823 --> 00:01:15.263 And Adam is out tonight with a little family pet emergency. 00:01:15.623 --> 00:01:18.743 But tonight is going to be our Veterans Day episode. 00:01:18.903 --> 00:01:21.963 And if you're watching live on YouTube, I know it's a week away, 00:01:22.083 --> 00:01:24.503 but this episode will come out next Monday. 00:01:24.703 --> 00:01:28.383 So the day before Veterans Day. So that's why it's our Veterans Day episode. 00:01:28.743 --> 00:01:31.963 We got a killer lineup, veteran owned and veteran supporting brands. 00:01:32.463 --> 00:01:35.723 We talk about 10th Mountain Whiskey, which we've had on the show before. 00:01:36.163 --> 00:01:40.223 Some beard oils that I've Just found out recently, it's bearded, that is all. 00:01:40.603 --> 00:01:46.203 Veteran-owned, we'll talk about them. And then we are joined by a fantastic guest over here. 00:01:46.403 --> 00:01:51.103 They are a veteran-owned, family-operated cigar brand with some fantastic sticks. 00:01:51.583 --> 00:01:58.043 I'd like to welcome the mind and beard behind Monte de Leon Cigars, Mr. 00:01:58.163 --> 00:02:01.083 Carlos de Leon. How you doing, sir? Yes, sir. Thank you, gentlemen. 00:02:01.283 --> 00:02:08.063 Thank you for having me on. Glad to be here. By the way, loving this 10th Mountain whiskey rye. 00:02:09.362 --> 00:02:12.782 Like I said, we'll get into that a little bit later. I kind of want to get into 00:02:12.782 --> 00:02:16.802 the cigar brand for a minute, just kind of introduce yourself. 00:02:16.942 --> 00:02:20.042 So if you want to a little bit introduce yourself, give a little bit of background 00:02:20.042 --> 00:02:22.302 on yourself and the brand. All right. 00:02:22.442 --> 00:02:24.982 Yeah. So my name is Carlos de Leon. 00:02:25.402 --> 00:02:27.502 Originally, I was born in Massachusetts. 00:02:28.042 --> 00:02:32.402 I was also raised in Puerto Rico, served in the U.S. Army. 00:02:32.662 --> 00:02:39.222 I have a family. I have my two kids, my wife. My son's currently serving in the Army right now. 00:02:39.482 --> 00:02:44.022 I served in the U.S. Army for about 10 years. after I got out of the army, 00:02:44.342 --> 00:02:50.462 I was, you know, like many veterans trying to fit for, trying to figure things out in life. 00:02:51.122 --> 00:02:58.802 And one day I came across a, one of my buddies, he invited me to a cigar lounge and I had, you know, 00:02:59.442 --> 00:03:02.922 kind of forgotten what that vibe and that felt like, because first of all, 00:03:03.002 --> 00:03:08.322 I had never been into an actual cigar lounge before, but I knew a little bit 00:03:08.322 --> 00:03:11.922 of cigars, especially from being overseas when I was in Iraq. 00:03:12.322 --> 00:03:15.962 I remember our commander introduced us to smoking cigars. 00:03:16.342 --> 00:03:22.902 So when we went to the cigar lounge, I immediately fell in love with just the 00:03:22.902 --> 00:03:27.702 atmosphere and the energy I felt when I walked into the cigar lounge. 00:03:27.942 --> 00:03:33.722 So it was like in that moment, something clicked for me and said, this is it. 00:03:33.962 --> 00:03:40.402 I've been spending these last couple years trying to figure life out and, 00:03:40.402 --> 00:03:47.602 you know, what I want to do after the military, because I was just going through that phase where, 00:03:47.902 --> 00:03:51.782 you know, my kids, when they were in school, they were constantly being asked, 00:03:51.922 --> 00:03:54.322 oh, what is your dad doing? They would always say the same thing. 00:03:54.422 --> 00:03:58.242 Oh, my dad was in the army. And I was like, man, that's. 00:03:58.995 --> 00:04:02.255 That's cool. And I'm proud to have served, of course. 00:04:02.435 --> 00:04:09.815 But for me, there had to be something more than just me having served in the 00:04:09.815 --> 00:04:11.215 army. I still feel young. 00:04:11.315 --> 00:04:14.895 I still feel like there's, 00:04:15.415 --> 00:04:20.795 Yeah, when I got introduced into this world, I felt like this was my new calling 00:04:20.795 --> 00:04:28.355 and I began this journey in the cigar world and I've been running ever since. 00:04:28.975 --> 00:04:34.995 We started off simple where, you know, unlike other companies, 00:04:34.995 --> 00:04:37.355 you might start off with the actual product. 00:04:37.695 --> 00:04:42.575 No, we didn't do that. I started off with legit looking for a logo first and 00:04:42.575 --> 00:04:44.575 how to tie everything together. 00:04:44.575 --> 00:04:50.275 And I knew I wanted to tie everything to the military, but I didn't want a logo 00:04:50.275 --> 00:04:56.235 that was over the top military because I felt like there was a lot of that already out there. 00:04:56.355 --> 00:05:01.255 And I did not want to feel like a copycat in some sort of way. 00:05:01.495 --> 00:05:08.875 So what I ended up doing is I ended up hiring a U.S. Army combat veteran to make our logo. 00:05:09.055 --> 00:05:13.495 So for me, that was the touch I needed into our logos. 00:05:13.495 --> 00:05:16.935 So we created the logo we 00:05:16.935 --> 00:05:20.415 started off by purchasing a trailer 00:05:20.415 --> 00:05:23.895 and we pretty much hired 00:05:23.895 --> 00:05:29.195 a master carpenter where i would go all the way up to i think it's luda wissy 00:05:29.195 --> 00:05:33.515 georgia where i would drive three four hours every morning around four in the 00:05:33.515 --> 00:05:38.155 morning get there and i would work with him building this trailer and turning 00:05:38.155 --> 00:05:42.115 it into a traveling cigar lounge so we started with that, 00:05:42.355 --> 00:05:46.015 it went great for a couple of years. People loved our trailer. 00:05:46.375 --> 00:05:51.755 And then, you know, we, we eventually, we first started selling other people's 00:05:51.755 --> 00:05:56.415 cigars, but then we had so many people that kept asking us, I see your logo. 00:05:56.715 --> 00:05:58.635 Where the fuck is that cigar? 00:05:59.095 --> 00:06:04.215 So, you know, I, immediately I was like, at first I thought it was impossible. 00:06:04.215 --> 00:06:08.235 I didn't think it was even, you know, it's not something that. 00:06:09.168 --> 00:06:14.088 The industry tends to share if I'm saying that correctly. 00:06:14.348 --> 00:06:22.208 So I figured it out. And I've been with the same folks since about 2019 that 00:06:22.208 --> 00:06:23.628 I started with our cigars. 00:06:23.828 --> 00:06:28.388 And we've been running ever since our cigars come directly from Nicaragua. 00:06:28.608 --> 00:06:32.828 In the beginning, we started off with a gentleman that was making our cigars 00:06:32.828 --> 00:06:35.828 in Puerto Rico, who's no longer with us, rest in peace. 00:06:36.288 --> 00:06:40.428 But directly, that was a way for me to tie everything to Puerto Rico, 00:06:40.568 --> 00:06:42.848 to our background being from Puerto Rico. 00:06:43.128 --> 00:06:49.108 But once I switched over to Nicaragua, it was because I love cigars that come from Nicaragua. 00:06:49.268 --> 00:06:52.588 So that was, that was for me something that had to be. 00:06:53.168 --> 00:06:57.408 And yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm extremely happy with, with our lineup and, and. 00:06:58.527 --> 00:07:01.467 Pretty much where we've been nice yeah the 00:07:01.467 --> 00:07:05.907 first time we're kind of fucking on a rant no no i 00:07:05.907 --> 00:07:09.127 remember the first time i met you was shit it was probably 00:07:09.127 --> 00:07:11.907 19 down in 00:07:11.907 --> 00:07:15.567 boogerville for the which was so crazy 00:07:15.567 --> 00:07:18.547 to me it was who put that event on whiskey 00:07:18.547 --> 00:07:21.447 in a hammock and in a hammock yeah shout out to whiskey 00:07:21.447 --> 00:07:24.227 in a hammock because they were rocking with us they were there from the 00:07:24.227 --> 00:07:27.327 beginning as well putting together events and having 00:07:27.327 --> 00:07:30.547 people invite us out so we were extremely grateful for 00:07:30.547 --> 00:07:33.347 those opportunities and when you told me about that event i was 00:07:33.347 --> 00:07:36.327 like holy shit like that's a that's a hole in 00:07:36.327 --> 00:07:39.427 the wall type of event in the middle of fucking nowhere yeah 00:07:39.427 --> 00:07:42.267 okay florida so it was super dope 00:07:42.267 --> 00:07:45.907 to see that you remembered that it was just some biker bar out 00:07:45.907 --> 00:07:49.687 in the middle of nowhere oh yeah they they mentioned 00:07:49.687 --> 00:07:52.467 something that they were putting it on and then uh jason from warriors and 00:07:52.467 --> 00:07:55.267 whiskey mentioned something that he was going to be there and i was like you know what i'm off 00:07:55.267 --> 00:07:58.127 that day i'll make my way down there i think it was like a 30 minute 00:07:58.127 --> 00:08:02.207 drive i was talking to them for a while and then i saw i saw the little trailer 00:08:02.207 --> 00:08:05.987 out in the distance and i was like i could go for some cigars it's open like 00:08:05.987 --> 00:08:09.647 i said it's a biker bar and it's one of those that it as soon as the door opens 00:08:09.647 --> 00:08:13.787 you just have all the cigarette smoke just fly out i was like i don't like that 00:08:13.787 --> 00:08:15.987 smell but i do like cigar smell so 00:08:16.367 --> 00:08:23.907 grab a couple of them i can't remember but i do have one left over you got wow 00:08:23.907 --> 00:08:26.307 yes that is our Duos Grados. 00:08:26.767 --> 00:08:35.887 Which is basically like saying two-step because it's a double dual wrapper cigar, a barber pole. 00:08:36.227 --> 00:08:39.007 Yeah, I grabbed, I think, five different ones, four or five. 00:08:39.147 --> 00:08:43.327 I think it was what you had on the – I had that one left just because I don't typically smoke. 00:08:44.556 --> 00:08:47.676 Those seven eight inch cigar i don't have too 00:08:47.676 --> 00:08:50.376 much time typically absolutely sit down with them so 00:08:50.376 --> 00:08:53.416 that one's been sitting in there so that one's been in the humidor for like i 00:08:53.416 --> 00:08:58.516 said since what 19 or 20 whenever that event was which after this charlie mike 00:08:58.516 --> 00:09:02.736 i'll probably get into that one but yeah that's when i first met you and i said 00:09:02.736 --> 00:09:07.336 i smoked through those cigars and i was like all right and then i've seen your 00:09:07.336 --> 00:09:10.996 your trailer around you're still doing that trailer right No, no, no. 00:09:11.096 --> 00:09:14.896 So we ended up selling that trailer a few years ago. 00:09:15.276 --> 00:09:17.556 It was just a lot to handle. 00:09:18.316 --> 00:09:25.856 During that time, and this is probably a little gem or whatever I'm giving away. 00:09:25.916 --> 00:09:26.756 I don't know what that's called. 00:09:26.996 --> 00:09:29.856 But anyways, I'm giving some insider scoop out here. 00:09:29.976 --> 00:09:34.856 So when you have a trailer, especially in the location that we live in, 00:09:35.036 --> 00:09:38.556 in Flagler County, you're not allowed to just park trailers in your driveway. 00:09:38.896 --> 00:09:45.376 So you have to park those trailers in storage. So with paying for storage fees, 00:09:45.636 --> 00:09:48.956 insurance for the trailer and all those things, like those fees, 00:09:49.176 --> 00:09:53.476 you know, continuously accommodated every month. 00:09:53.756 --> 00:09:59.176 And in order to, in order to not, you know, stress that, that means you would 00:09:59.176 --> 00:10:02.556 have to have way more events going on. 00:10:02.676 --> 00:10:05.436 And, and, and I didn't get into this business to. 00:10:06.476 --> 00:10:10.996 To fucking sit here and, and work my ass off like that. If that makes sense. 00:10:11.096 --> 00:10:13.616 You know what I mean? I, I, I love the industry. 00:10:13.796 --> 00:10:17.556 I love the cigar scene, but I don't, I don't want to be every single day having 00:10:17.556 --> 00:10:19.676 to be out there doing events and stuff like that. 00:10:19.836 --> 00:10:23.836 I want to do the events that I'm passionate for that. I want to go out and do 00:10:23.836 --> 00:10:26.216 and have a good, I want to enjoy what I'm doing. 00:10:26.556 --> 00:10:30.376 Yeah. I mean, and if, and if I don't feel like doing it this weekend or that weekend, 00:10:30.576 --> 00:10:33.876 then I don't have to, if I have family things going on for me, 00:10:33.936 --> 00:10:37.476 that takes priority over everything so you know 00:10:37.476 --> 00:10:40.236 it it was time for me to kind of 00:10:40.236 --> 00:10:43.156 let go which was very difficult like i said we built 00:10:43.156 --> 00:10:46.056 that trailer from the ground up and i'm telling you 00:10:46.056 --> 00:10:48.976 till this day i don't care who's out 00:10:48.976 --> 00:10:53.696 there i'm telling you right now you have not seen a fucking trailer like the 00:10:53.696 --> 00:10:59.556 one beef the one we built a beautiful trailer like we built man like that that 00:10:59.556 --> 00:11:06.076 humidor that dude we drove from here in Florida all the way the fuck to New Hampshire, 00:11:06.256 --> 00:11:09.856 to Lancaster, New Hampshire, where they had us come out and do an event. 00:11:10.056 --> 00:11:16.916 And that lets you know the fucking the engineering of everything, 00:11:16.916 --> 00:11:19.156 because we took everything into consideration. 00:11:19.476 --> 00:11:22.856 We took everything because if we're driving, we're hitting bumps, 00:11:23.016 --> 00:11:29.936 you obviously can't have a glass in the humidor, because then your shit can fucking break. 00:11:30.076 --> 00:11:36.596 So what did we use? We used acrylic As long as it created the same type of sealant 00:11:36.596 --> 00:11:41.016 and the interior had the cedar wood and everything like that. 00:11:41.816 --> 00:11:44.456 Cigars were still in a great environment. 00:11:44.776 --> 00:11:49.336 So, yeah, as you can see, I still take it. 00:11:49.912 --> 00:11:54.952 A lot of pride in that. It was a great trailer. You had your little walk-up 00:11:54.952 --> 00:11:59.172 window, which I remember it was like, all right, let me, I'm guessing this is 00:11:59.172 --> 00:12:00.872 where you walk up and be like, all right, let me get whatever. 00:12:00.972 --> 00:12:04.752 And then you were just like, nah, just come on in. And it's literally like a walk-in humidor. 00:12:05.472 --> 00:12:09.172 Even the window, even the window I took pride in. 00:12:09.392 --> 00:12:15.352 So normal trailers with concession windows, those windows are not that big. 00:12:15.352 --> 00:12:21.272 If you go to right now to like a food truck or something, those windows are not that big. 00:12:21.692 --> 00:12:28.152 I made sure that the cutout of that window was large enough to where it felt 00:12:28.152 --> 00:12:30.592 like a personal experience with my customers. 00:12:30.772 --> 00:12:34.192 So they, they almost felt like they were inside the trip. 00:12:34.392 --> 00:12:38.412 Once they walk up, it's like they can see everything super clear and they were 00:12:38.412 --> 00:12:41.532 able to talk to me like they were right here sitting in front of me. 00:12:41.692 --> 00:12:45.672 So it was, it was crazy that I thought about it in that moment, 00:12:45.792 --> 00:12:49.852 but I didn't, I did not I know what those results were going to be, 00:12:49.892 --> 00:12:55.812 but people really loved that feeling, that energy of having an insanely big window. 00:12:56.612 --> 00:13:01.532 I'll have to look through pictures because that memory shows up on Facebook every year. 00:13:01.592 --> 00:13:04.032 And I'm pretty sure there's a picture of me standing out that window. 00:13:04.032 --> 00:13:06.192 So I'll have to see if I can find that picture and then post it. 00:13:06.332 --> 00:13:09.872 Oh, that'll be great. So everyone can see it. That was awesome. 00:13:10.012 --> 00:13:13.972 It was literally a rolling humidor. Yes, yes. 00:13:15.074 --> 00:13:18.814 Everything, man. Yeah, it was it was amazing. But we're we're definitely happy. 00:13:19.074 --> 00:13:24.294 We switched it up to to now to our canopy, which which I'm sitting under right 00:13:24.294 --> 00:13:26.874 now. But, you know, same with the trailer. 00:13:27.054 --> 00:13:30.794 You know, it shouldn't be of no surprise that we took insane pride and also 00:13:30.794 --> 00:13:36.314 making sure that our canopy looked fucking super dope. So so our normal setup 00:13:36.314 --> 00:13:39.494 has like a back wall, has our logo and everything. 00:13:39.714 --> 00:13:44.654 Last year, we went to the Heritage Cigar Festival out in Ybor City. 00:13:45.094 --> 00:13:51.154 And man, I think I showed up to that place. I want to say somewhere between 00:13:51.154 --> 00:13:54.714 750 and a thousand cigars. 00:13:55.134 --> 00:13:58.094 This event started at 11 a.m. 00:13:58.814 --> 00:14:02.974 Man, my buddy's my witness. My buddy, Jason Martinez, comedian. 00:14:03.154 --> 00:14:08.834 He was there. He, bro, by fucking 1500, right? 3 p.m. for those of you. 00:14:09.154 --> 00:14:12.874 So by 3 p.m., we were fucking sold out. 00:14:13.314 --> 00:14:17.694 We were sold out. People for some reason kept getting drawn over to it, 00:14:17.694 --> 00:14:20.254 which was surprising to me because I'm not going to lie. 00:14:20.334 --> 00:14:23.954 I didn't even want to bring a lot of cigars to that type of event because I 00:14:23.954 --> 00:14:28.474 felt I had like imposter syndrome at that type of event. Why? 00:14:28.774 --> 00:14:33.974 Because this is a fucking big cigar event. So you're going to have big names out here, right? 00:14:33.994 --> 00:14:37.474 I'm not going to mention their big names right now, but you know who they are. 00:14:37.614 --> 00:14:41.134 The biggest names are going to be present at this type of festival. 00:14:41.374 --> 00:14:45.294 So how the fuck am I going to be able to compete with those type of guys with 00:14:45.294 --> 00:14:48.514 this crazy setup with these beautiful boxes? 00:14:49.014 --> 00:14:54.474 So I was like, I'm going to show up with X amount. But man, we fucking killed it. 00:14:54.554 --> 00:14:59.994 And it was the greatest feeling ever, especially being the first year without the trailer. 00:15:01.157 --> 00:15:04.897 Yeah, I just pulled up the, I've heard about that festival, but I've never, 00:15:05.097 --> 00:15:07.837 like, I grew up just outside of Tampa. 00:15:08.097 --> 00:15:11.697 I've heard about 30, 35 minutes outside of Tampa, an Ybor area. 00:15:12.297 --> 00:15:16.677 So I've heard about the festival. I've never gone. And so I went just for this year. 00:15:16.717 --> 00:15:20.977 Oh, if you get a chance, go to that festival. It's awesome. 00:15:21.897 --> 00:15:26.537 We'll have to. Because they do it at, I think, I think Park is Centennial Park, if I'm correct. 00:15:26.657 --> 00:15:31.457 Yeah. And what they have is that square, they have it where around the square 00:15:31.457 --> 00:15:37.017 of the park, they have food vendors, they have cigar vendors going all around, 00:15:37.197 --> 00:15:38.517 and then they have the MVP. 00:15:40.257 --> 00:15:46.057 Damn, the VIPs. Fuck, man, I'm still stuck on fucking sports mode. 00:15:46.157 --> 00:15:48.777 You know what? God, you're distracting me. Stay over here. 00:15:50.457 --> 00:15:54.237 Take off the jersey. Whoa! What's going on here? 00:15:56.717 --> 00:16:04.677 There we go There it is This is a mechiraba done Super right Oh, 00:16:04.677 --> 00:16:09.477 hey, thank you Gracias, mi amor And look at that, 00:16:10.447 --> 00:16:14.187 You can't find. Yes. Yo. You gotta see this shit? 00:16:14.627 --> 00:16:18.467 That's a fucking Michelada right there. That's a Mio right there. Huh? 00:16:19.507 --> 00:16:23.887 I said I'm super grateful. Thank you. Bro, you don't. I'm on a fucking podcast 00:16:23.887 --> 00:16:26.567 right now. You can't. You're into it. Crazy. 00:16:27.547 --> 00:16:30.467 If this was the 80s, you wouldn't be interrupting this podcast. 00:16:32.547 --> 00:16:36.087 Yo. Oh, sorry. Where was I? What were we talking about? Fuck. 00:16:36.667 --> 00:16:42.167 Oh. The cigar festival. The cigar festival. So, yeah, it's a dope festival. 00:16:42.427 --> 00:16:48.687 They have the VIP. They have the music going on, the dope vibes. And it's only 11 to 5. 00:16:48.847 --> 00:16:51.707 And in my mind, I thought that was not enough time. I was like, 00:16:51.787 --> 00:16:53.187 man, 11 to 5? What the fuck? 00:16:53.567 --> 00:16:57.627 But, bro, it honestly did what it needed to do from 11 to 5. 00:16:57.827 --> 00:17:01.147 Like, legit, they fucking turned it up from 11 to 5 out there. 00:17:02.282 --> 00:17:05.942 Yeah, this year, December 7th, 2025, 11 to 5. 00:17:06.642 --> 00:17:09.482 I wouldn't be able to make it this year, but I'll definitely look into it next 00:17:09.482 --> 00:17:13.922 year. But looking at the vendors list, booth number one is you guys. 00:17:14.582 --> 00:17:18.502 Boom. Damn, I didn't even know that was our number. I don't know. 00:17:18.682 --> 00:17:22.282 The first, literally, you click vendors and it has all the vendor space sold 00:17:22.282 --> 00:17:25.602 out, the date, the time. And then there's your little logo. 00:17:26.002 --> 00:17:31.522 And then I was just scrolling through to see booth 14 is our buddy Jacob from Bain Blends. 00:17:31.522 --> 00:17:34.462 So from what bane blends 00:17:34.462 --> 00:17:37.482 he's a he does beard oils and a bunch 00:17:37.482 --> 00:17:41.742 of like men's grooming with the beards and all that stuff so if you got a touch 00:17:41.742 --> 00:17:46.042 if you got a chance to walk around definitely hit his table up his oils send 00:17:46.042 --> 00:17:50.502 me that information i want to make sure i want to so you said say it again one 00:17:50.502 --> 00:17:57.102 more time bane blends bane blend bane like fucking bane from batman Bain? B-A-I-N. 00:17:57.922 --> 00:18:03.562 Close enough. Alright, so Bain Blends. I'll send you a text with his information. Yeah, for sure. 00:18:03.902 --> 00:18:06.022 If you've got time, definitely check him out. 00:18:06.882 --> 00:18:12.322 We had him on last month. All these episodes start running together. 00:18:12.942 --> 00:18:16.282 Yeah, great products. I've bought more from him since we've talked. 00:18:16.482 --> 00:18:20.942 Some great products. He's got hand creams, shampoos, conditioners, 00:18:21.022 --> 00:18:24.402 which you guys don't have to deal with, but they got the beard shampoo and conditioners. 00:18:25.182 --> 00:18:27.702 A ton of products. A ton of scents. Definitely check him out. 00:18:28.242 --> 00:18:32.022 Hey, I don't know about you, but I have to, like, I have to shampoo. 00:18:32.262 --> 00:18:35.902 Like, I'm the type of person that I have to shampoo my beard, 00:18:36.142 --> 00:18:39.322 like shampoo, conditioner, like almost daily. 00:18:39.762 --> 00:18:41.822 Especially if I smoked. 00:18:42.873 --> 00:18:47.493 Yo, you know how it is. You know, I'm married. I can't fucking sit here going 00:18:47.493 --> 00:18:51.193 into bed, like, smelling like I fucking just got done fucking. 00:18:51.533 --> 00:18:55.073 You know what I mean? Like, my wife is going to bed with a fucking fire pit. 00:18:55.293 --> 00:18:59.093 Like, no. Like, I got to fucking wash this shit and make sure this shit is, 00:18:59.213 --> 00:19:02.513 like, you know, washed real good. Put the oils in it. 00:19:02.633 --> 00:19:04.933 And, you know, get into bed smelling good. You know what I mean? 00:19:04.973 --> 00:19:07.993 So, whenever I hear guys that, I don't wash my fucking beard. 00:19:08.073 --> 00:19:09.193 That's where I draw the line. 00:19:09.493 --> 00:19:13.553 I was like, you sure are nasty. yeah yeah 00:19:13.553 --> 00:19:17.093 i'll send you a text with this information and definitely need 00:19:17.093 --> 00:19:20.533 to hook up with him when you're when you're there but yeah 00:19:20.533 --> 00:19:23.253 i'd like to get into the cigar before we 00:19:23.253 --> 00:19:26.553 get too far in and forget about mentioning it no 00:19:26.553 --> 00:19:29.533 we're absolutely me and paul and i think you'll you 00:19:29.533 --> 00:19:32.433 said you were going to get into it once you're done with that one we're smoking 00:19:32.433 --> 00:19:35.353 the the charlie mike it's a four i'm gonna switch over 00:19:35.353 --> 00:19:38.793 i'm gonna switch over right now why because i 00:19:38.793 --> 00:19:42.193 can't but hold on here's here's 00:19:42.193 --> 00:19:45.113 the charlie mike what it looks like just in case this is 00:19:45.113 --> 00:19:51.213 yeah it's a little cigar but it packs a punch oh yeah absolutely and i always 00:19:51.213 --> 00:19:55.273 tell people this is what i compare it to like when when people ask because usually 00:19:55.273 --> 00:19:59.993 when people see the the dark the dark wrapper on it double maduro san andres 00:19:59.993 --> 00:20:04.453 wrapper they immediately become a little intimidated but i try to tell them that it's like. 00:20:05.325 --> 00:20:08.765 Like, think of, like, a high-end whiskey, a high-end tequila. 00:20:08.985 --> 00:20:12.845 Like, it's fucking smooth. It's a smooth cigar. 00:20:13.585 --> 00:20:18.605 I dare almost say that it's a fucking medium-bodied cigar. 00:20:18.785 --> 00:20:21.765 That's what I was about to say. When I say it packs a punch, 00:20:21.785 --> 00:20:25.245 I'm talking more flavor-wise than body. 00:20:25.765 --> 00:20:28.765 Because it's definitely hitting that medium, maybe medium-plus. 00:20:28.945 --> 00:20:35.685 But it's full of, like, chocolatey nuttiness and some sweetness in there. Like I said, it's 4x60. 00:20:35.985 --> 00:20:37.645 If I'm not mistaken, it's a 00:20:37.645 --> 00:20:41.565 San Andreas double Maduro wrapper and a Nicaraguan binder and filler. Yes. 00:20:42.565 --> 00:20:45.545 The cigar comes directly from Nicaragua. Absolutely. 00:20:45.985 --> 00:20:51.005 It is smoking fantastically and tastes fantastic. What do you think, Paul? 00:20:51.505 --> 00:20:56.365 No, excellent cigar. I started out with a Knob Creek bourbon. 00:20:56.605 --> 00:20:58.105 Well, the 12-year Knob Creek. 00:20:58.725 --> 00:21:02.645 And some piss in that went fantastic. 00:21:03.585 --> 00:21:09.665 You get a lot of darker notes Like a dark chocolate There's some earthy notes in there Maybe a coffee. 00:21:11.105 --> 00:21:16.345 Some kind of I don't want to say tannic But leathery coffee On the sides of 00:21:16.345 --> 00:21:19.385 my tongue from the cigar Which I'm really enjoying Especially with a sweeter fork, 00:21:20.332 --> 00:21:25.472 I switched up to Taconic Barrel Strength, which is another sweet bourbon. 00:21:25.872 --> 00:21:28.752 And it's going fantastic. I'm very interested to see how it's going to pair 00:21:28.752 --> 00:21:33.252 with the rye, the 10-pound rye. That'll be my next pour that I think we all have. 00:21:33.412 --> 00:21:36.592 So I'm interested to see how it goes with that. It's a little bit more of a 00:21:36.592 --> 00:21:38.932 fireproof, spicier pour. 00:21:39.132 --> 00:21:43.492 So I'm going to be interested to see how that goes. But you say you're getting 00:21:43.492 --> 00:21:44.812 these made in Nicaragua. 00:21:44.912 --> 00:21:49.912 How much influence do you have over the actual blending? Do you, 00:21:49.912 --> 00:21:52.792 or do you distrust your blenders and your moral? 00:21:52.872 --> 00:21:57.912 No, no, I have, we have been involved with all part of the process, right? 00:21:58.032 --> 00:22:01.792 The only thing we don't share is when it comes to the, when it comes to the 00:22:01.792 --> 00:22:04.512 binder and filler, we don't share because those are private blends. 00:22:05.112 --> 00:22:09.152 However, when it comes to the process, we have been a part of the process of 00:22:09.152 --> 00:22:12.512 every one of our cigars since the very beginning. 00:22:12.712 --> 00:22:16.752 Like these, our cigars have been chosen throughout the years. 00:22:16.752 --> 00:22:22.052 So, you know, we started off with sampling, you know, they would send us cigars, 00:22:22.152 --> 00:22:25.352 we would try them out, say, okay, we like this one, we don't like this one, 00:22:25.472 --> 00:22:27.032 we're looking more for something like this. 00:22:27.292 --> 00:22:31.792 And that process has brought us to our current lineup, which, 00:22:32.172 --> 00:22:38.792 you know, we're extremely happy with. this cigar right here specifically, the Charlie Mike. 00:22:39.052 --> 00:22:44.952 I don't know if you guys know this, but it's the reason why it's the Charlie 00:22:44.952 --> 00:22:52.072 Mike is because Charlie Mike comes from a military term, which means to continue mission, 00:22:52.472 --> 00:22:56.512 continue mission, which means you got to, regardless of what's going on, 00:22:56.672 --> 00:22:58.212 you got to fucking move forward. 00:22:58.452 --> 00:23:04.632 You know what I mean? So it's definitely a favorite for a lot of folks, 00:23:04.732 --> 00:23:06.712 especially more avid smokers. 00:23:07.052 --> 00:23:13.292 And it's been a favorite, especially amongst the military community for a long time. 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:20.019 Yeah, I started out with the 10th Mountain Bourbon, which is a 92 proof, if I'm not mistaken. 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:25.119 Yeah, 92 proof, two-year-old, not 100% on the Mashville, but it's a higher corn, 00:23:25.979 --> 00:23:27.079 sweeter profile whiskey. 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:31.859 So it kind of helps balance out those little bit of darker notes with the cigar. 00:23:32.919 --> 00:23:35.739 I do have a little bit of the 10th Mountain, or I did try a little bit of the 00:23:35.739 --> 00:23:38.539 10th Mountain Rye with it just to kind of see. 00:23:39.019 --> 00:23:43.379 It's fantastic. We'll talk about that in a minute. And then I also have a starlight 00:23:43.379 --> 00:23:46.899 rye, a double-doke rye, double-doke with the French oak. 00:23:47.179 --> 00:23:51.839 And I'm going to tell you, it is like mocha. 00:23:52.299 --> 00:23:56.439 It's chocolate, nuttiness, a little bit of sweetness, like caramel. 00:23:56.659 --> 00:24:00.079 It almost tastes like you're smoking and drinking a coffee. 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.939 Like one of those sweet, like high-end coffees. 00:24:04.739 --> 00:24:09.239 Like a drip coffee. That's going really well together. It went well with the 00:24:09.239 --> 00:24:11.219 10th Mountain, the bourbon. 00:24:11.679 --> 00:24:16.119 Although for me, that 10th Mountain bourbon is a little bit sweeter than I typically 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:21.139 like, but it's going real well with that rye as well. So get into that in a minute. 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.959 But yeah, something I've got to mention just because it's all over the, 00:24:25.590 --> 00:24:29.390 All over the website. I'm pretty sure I've seen you wear hoodies and shirts. 00:24:29.550 --> 00:24:30.530 I'm surprised you're not wearing one. 00:24:30.750 --> 00:24:33.970 The letter is F-I-T-F-O. 00:24:34.650 --> 00:24:35.670 Yeah, fitful. 00:24:36.830 --> 00:24:41.990 You could probably figure it out. I was going to say, it's the unofficial motto 00:24:41.990 --> 00:24:44.290 for you guys. Exactly. It's our mantra. 00:24:44.470 --> 00:24:46.710 We call that the life mantra. 00:24:47.030 --> 00:24:52.670 Figure it the fuck out. That is legit the foundation of fucking life. 00:24:52.670 --> 00:24:58.050 If you go, if you really go back in your lifetime, you will realize that every 00:24:58.050 --> 00:25:01.790 single moment in your life, that is what you're trying to do. 00:25:01.950 --> 00:25:05.810 You are trying to figure it the fuck out when it comes to our business, 00:25:05.830 --> 00:25:10.510 how we built it, every single step of the fucking way that we've gotten to the 00:25:10.510 --> 00:25:15.110 point that we are is because we've tried to figure it the fuck out. 00:25:15.110 --> 00:25:18.090 And this business right here Oh this 00:25:18.090 --> 00:25:21.130 business has pushed us To figure it the fuck out every step 00:25:21.130 --> 00:25:24.770 of the way From not only dealing here But 00:25:24.770 --> 00:25:27.790 from dealing in places Like out all the way in fucking 00:25:27.790 --> 00:25:33.350 Europe Like yeah Every single time we've had to figure it the fuck out So therefore 00:25:33.350 --> 00:25:38.090 That has become the mantra of our business In the beginning we used to always 00:25:38.090 --> 00:25:43.010 say Tabaco ronco y chura That was the very beginning We always used to say that 00:25:43.010 --> 00:25:45.010 And the idea behind that was. 00:25:45.908 --> 00:25:51.348 Tabaco, rum, cultura was, even though it really means tabaco as in obviously tobacco, 00:25:52.028 --> 00:26:00.188 rum as in rum, and then cultura as in culture, what that meant was it was like 00:26:00.188 --> 00:26:02.148 a combination of three things. 00:26:02.528 --> 00:26:05.728 Fucking cigars, drinking, and culture. 00:26:05.948 --> 00:26:11.208 And what we meant by culture is whatever fucking culture we're in, 00:26:11.208 --> 00:26:17.548 We are going like deep into that culture and we're going to enjoy whatever it is we're doing, 00:26:17.668 --> 00:26:21.868 whether that be whether we are at a cigar heritage, 00:26:22.128 --> 00:26:25.988 heritage cigar festival in Tampa or we are at a biker. 00:26:26.648 --> 00:26:30.948 We are at a fucking biker type of event like like book. What is it? 00:26:31.068 --> 00:26:32.368 What is it called? Boogerville? 00:26:33.088 --> 00:26:37.288 Boogerville. Boogerville. Something like that. I thought that place was I thought 00:26:37.288 --> 00:26:39.048 they were joking when they said that name. 00:26:39.048 --> 00:26:41.748 So so that's what we meant by that but 00:26:41.748 --> 00:26:44.728 when it comes to fitful fitful comes from 00:26:44.728 --> 00:26:49.928 one of my buddies my buddy zo who's currently a command sergeant major in the 00:26:49.928 --> 00:26:55.128 u.s army man he every time i used to come to the next issue trying to figure 00:26:55.128 --> 00:26:59.028 the next thing out he's like bro you got a fitful you got a fitful so immediately 00:26:59.028 --> 00:27:04.188 i was like you know what i'm gonna start fucking using that and And we created at the time, 00:27:04.348 --> 00:27:10.988 we created some t-shirts and people loved it because they really identified 00:27:10.988 --> 00:27:12.988 with the fit folk process. 00:27:13.208 --> 00:27:16.068 Like that's what life is about. You're always trying to fit folk. 00:27:17.326 --> 00:27:21.386 Speaking to that, what, let's just say, I want to go start my own cigar brand tomorrow. 00:27:21.546 --> 00:27:25.486 What's one thing, one piece of advice that kind of you could give to somebody 00:27:25.486 --> 00:27:28.466 that maybe blindsided you that you weren't aware of, that you were like, 00:27:28.566 --> 00:27:30.626 oh, shit, I got to get past this. 00:27:30.706 --> 00:27:33.146 And I didn't even realize this was going to be a hurdle or an obstacle. 00:27:33.846 --> 00:27:35.866 Oh, shit. Okay. 00:27:37.246 --> 00:27:41.866 So if someone wanted to, if someone wanted to start, you're saying like they 00:27:41.866 --> 00:27:43.546 wanted to start their own brand? 00:27:44.026 --> 00:27:47.566 Yep. Just somebody want to walk in your footsteps and do what you did with one 00:27:47.566 --> 00:27:49.506 thing that kind of like knock you back. 00:27:49.646 --> 00:27:52.266 Like, shit, I did not see this coming and we got to figure this one out. 00:27:52.786 --> 00:27:58.246 Yeah. Those licenses and permits. You got to fucking know that like licenses, permits and taxes. 00:27:58.486 --> 00:28:01.686 Those are the fucking first things you better figure out. You know, 00:28:01.806 --> 00:28:06.726 you better figure those things the fuck out quick because those things immediately. 00:28:07.006 --> 00:28:11.086 If you don't have those things, you're not going to be able to do what you want 00:28:11.086 --> 00:28:14.046 to do. Now, does it mean you can't make it happen? 00:28:14.186 --> 00:28:17.106 I mean, you're still going to be able to make things happen, 00:28:17.266 --> 00:28:21.286 but if you want to become official as far as a brand and everything, 00:28:21.806 --> 00:28:25.546 yeah, you definitely want to take the time to get those licenses and permits, 00:28:25.686 --> 00:28:29.266 get your, you know, whether if you're going to be a retail to buy, 00:28:29.386 --> 00:28:32.346 you're going to need a retail tobacco license. 00:28:32.566 --> 00:28:39.046 Like if you want to get your cigar inside of a location so they can sell your cigars, like, 00:28:39.226 --> 00:28:42.346 or if you want to sell cigars directly to people at events, 00:28:42.346 --> 00:28:49.346 Retail cigar Retail cigar Retail tobacco license So yeah License permits and 00:28:49.346 --> 00:28:55.946 taxes Those are the first things That you should want to know. 00:28:57.386 --> 00:29:00.986 I feel like we get that same answer when we ask that same question to whiskey brands. 00:29:01.846 --> 00:29:09.086 No, no, no, no. I'll give away a few things that a lot of people don't know. And I realize that. 00:29:09.686 --> 00:29:13.966 I told you in the beginning, this industry, I came to find out that it was very 00:29:13.966 --> 00:29:17.426 protective over their secrets, which I get it. 00:29:17.586 --> 00:29:21.846 Listen, I've learned over the last, what year are we in? 00:29:21.986 --> 00:29:25.006 Seven years? I've learned over the last seven years 00:29:25.006 --> 00:29:31.986 That as much as we put into the fucking grind It almost makes sense to be very 00:29:31.986 --> 00:29:37.006 protective over those secrets But I tend to be more of an open book Because 00:29:37.006 --> 00:29:39.766 I have never been afraid of competition 00:29:39.766 --> 00:29:43.886 I've never even looked at it that way I always look at it like, 00:29:43.986 --> 00:29:47.726 yo, we can all eat Let's all fucking eat together, you know what I mean? 00:29:47.766 --> 00:29:51.346 Let's all sit at the fucking table Let's grind together, let's eat together 00:29:51.346 --> 00:29:55.566 Your process is not the same as my process. You get what I'm saying? 00:29:55.946 --> 00:30:05.086 So I will say that if it comes a moment that you are able to get your hands on cigars and say, 00:30:05.406 --> 00:30:12.366 okay, I want to look for a cigar that I can slap my band on and start selling. 00:30:12.366 --> 00:30:20.786 I will say, take the time to really learn those cigars and understand whether 00:30:20.786 --> 00:30:23.046 those cigars are truly good or not. 00:30:23.206 --> 00:30:27.906 Because sometimes when you're impulsive, you might just go with the fact that 00:30:27.906 --> 00:30:30.286 you have a cigar in your hand and you want to sell it. 00:30:32.072 --> 00:30:38.592 What you should be doing is maybe using your circle or your closest friends 00:30:38.592 --> 00:30:43.632 that already smoke cigars and say, let me purchase X amount of cigars and let 00:30:43.632 --> 00:30:45.332 me get them out to my friends. 00:30:45.332 --> 00:30:47.852 You're going to have to fucking give them away because that's, 00:30:47.892 --> 00:30:50.712 you know, that's just the name of the game. 00:30:50.852 --> 00:30:56.152 You got to give them away so people can try and they can let you know whether 00:30:56.152 --> 00:31:00.272 that cigar is good or they're going to. And if they're good friends, 00:31:00.412 --> 00:31:03.492 they're going to let you know, like, I don't know about that cigar, bro. 00:31:03.592 --> 00:31:07.252 I didn't really enjoy it. And that's what you want to know from people. 00:31:07.512 --> 00:31:11.992 You know? So that's just another thing that I'm willing to give away in this moment. 00:31:12.772 --> 00:31:15.472 I'll probably give away a bunch of shit because I like that. 00:31:16.032 --> 00:31:17.712 Whatever you ask me, I'll probably give it away. 00:31:17.952 --> 00:31:20.892 Keep drinking. We'll get some more out of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm down. 00:31:21.632 --> 00:31:24.352 So, let's do it right now because, look, I'm drinking this rye. 00:31:24.892 --> 00:31:29.592 And now because the wife made this I got no choice to go back and fucking forth 00:31:29.592 --> 00:31:32.772 But you know that's a no-go But I have no choice right now. 00:31:33.954 --> 00:31:38.354 Just a quick little tangent before we continue. Cam Little, the Jacksonville 00:31:38.354 --> 00:31:43.994 Jaguars kicker, is now officially has the record for the longest field goal in NFL history. 00:31:44.554 --> 00:31:47.454 He just kicked a 68-fucking-yarder. 00:31:48.534 --> 00:31:52.754 He figured it the fuck out from preseason and decided, fuck it, 00:31:52.834 --> 00:31:56.714 I'm going to kick it in regular season and actually get a real record. 00:31:57.614 --> 00:32:02.054 What a fucking sniper. Like, dude, from that, I always, I always get, 00:32:02.174 --> 00:32:06.074 I get, I get mind boggled when I see kickers kick it from like super far distance. 00:32:06.114 --> 00:32:11.674 I'm like, bro, that's like one object and they got to fucking like kick this thing. 00:32:11.794 --> 00:32:16.174 And it's got to go directly in that fucking direction and be so crisp. 00:32:16.374 --> 00:32:19.814 Like I give it to them, man. They, they, they, they fucking, 00:32:20.054 --> 00:32:24.654 obviously Atlanta's not feeling the same way right now. They're like, fuck this dude, man. 00:32:25.374 --> 00:32:28.414 Yeah. Yeah, when you're kicking from closer distances, you got a little bit 00:32:28.414 --> 00:32:31.134 of leeway if it comes off the foot the wrong way. 00:32:31.194 --> 00:32:36.754 But when you're that far away, you got minimal mess up there. 00:32:37.014 --> 00:32:40.614 But, yeah, that's a little quick. I looked up and saw it, and I was like, 00:32:40.614 --> 00:32:42.814 is that a rerun from the preseason? 00:32:42.834 --> 00:32:46.674 I looked down at my phone, and, yep, 68, which is funny because the Jags punter 00:32:46.674 --> 00:32:49.614 has punted twice and has 73 yards in punts. 00:32:49.854 --> 00:32:54.654 So he's got, what, five more yards in punts than the kicker has in field. 00:32:54.654 --> 00:32:58.974 Holy, maybe they, yeah, maybe they need to just start snapping it to an older 00:32:58.974 --> 00:33:02.094 for the punt and letting the damn little fucking punt. 00:33:03.265 --> 00:33:08.965 Oh, my God. But so if you were to pick one of the cigars in your lineup out 00:33:08.965 --> 00:33:11.925 for a beginner cigar smoker, which one would it be? 00:33:13.065 --> 00:33:15.985 That that honestly depends on the person. Right. 00:33:16.125 --> 00:33:21.785 Because I normally if if you are completely new to the cigar game. Right. 00:33:22.265 --> 00:33:24.265 I tell people two things. 00:33:24.885 --> 00:33:30.745 Number one. Hey, we have a Dolce Dama in our lineup, which is a sweet tap cigar. 00:33:30.945 --> 00:33:33.885 It's a Connecticut cigar. It's a good cigar for 00:33:33.885 --> 00:33:36.905 people to start out with But let's suppose You're like 00:33:36.905 --> 00:33:41.085 oh man I don't know if I want to do a sweet cap My next 00:33:41.085 --> 00:33:47.865 advice I'm telling you right now This is fucking gold Dude If you are a cigar 00:33:47.865 --> 00:33:53.065 smoker Or if you're somebody that wants to dive into cigar smoking And you want 00:33:53.065 --> 00:33:58.045 to be able to fucking Get through the first cigar Without fucking like you know, 00:33:58.605 --> 00:34:04.425 It being too much for you Have a fucking drink Have a drink in your hand Because 00:34:04.425 --> 00:34:08.645 you know what Let's suppose you're not used to those tastes Let's suppose that 00:34:08.645 --> 00:34:14.225 you got a cigar That's a little too strong For what you were even prepared for 00:34:14.225 --> 00:34:17.465 If you take coughs And then you turn around. 00:34:18.686 --> 00:34:22.186 You take sips of whatever the fuck you're drinking. Boom. 00:34:23.246 --> 00:34:26.906 Everything balances back out. You know, I just realized I keep looking the wrong 00:34:26.906 --> 00:34:29.806 fucking way. Like, fuck. The cameras. 00:34:30.286 --> 00:34:34.026 I keep looking over here because my dumb ass keeps looking to where I'm at. 00:34:34.666 --> 00:34:38.346 And I should be looking over. All right. Now I fuck it. Is this. Is my. 00:34:38.566 --> 00:34:41.846 Let me know because I can't see my eyes. Are my eyes locked into the camera? 00:34:41.986 --> 00:34:45.566 Yeah, you're kidding. It don't matter. Okay, now I know. Look over there. All right. 00:34:45.906 --> 00:34:50.806 Probably with a little light is. But yeah. I would say, I would say have a fucking 00:34:50.806 --> 00:34:53.806 drink in your hand. If you're a new person, definitely have a fucking, 00:34:54.046 --> 00:34:56.666 and if, but I don't drink alcohol. 00:34:56.866 --> 00:35:00.186 But then fucking have a Pepsi in your hand. I don't fucking know. 00:35:00.346 --> 00:35:01.786 Whatever the fuck you want. 00:35:02.226 --> 00:35:07.606 If milk is your fucking choice of drink, then fucking have a glass of milk in your fucking hand. 00:35:07.726 --> 00:35:12.266 You know what I mean? And it'll make that first experience much more enjoyable for you. 00:35:13.384 --> 00:35:17.604 Underrated soda. It does go pretty well with, with cigars for the most part. 00:35:17.684 --> 00:35:21.224 My son, my son was the first one to tell me about this. 00:35:21.524 --> 00:35:26.464 He was like that. Have you ever had a cream soda with a cigar? 00:35:26.484 --> 00:35:29.124 And I was like, no, he's like, you gotta do it. 00:35:29.304 --> 00:35:33.364 So I did it. And I was like, Holy shit, bro. Cream soda. 00:35:33.624 --> 00:35:38.124 So when you said butterbeer, I was like, Holy shit. Butterbeer It's got to be 00:35:38.124 --> 00:35:40.304 such a fucking hit with a cigar, dude. 00:35:41.084 --> 00:35:45.584 Yeah, that cream soda, the root beer, Dr. Pepper, they all have more or less. 00:35:47.264 --> 00:35:54.944 Some fire pairings there. Dr. Pepper cream soda with a cigar is pretty damn good. 00:35:55.544 --> 00:35:59.064 Here's a good one that a lot of people don't know, especially if you're not 00:35:59.064 --> 00:36:00.964 Puerto Rican, you didn't grow up in that culture. 00:36:01.424 --> 00:36:05.244 There's a soda that we drink in Puerto Rico called a cola. 00:36:05.784 --> 00:36:08.464 It's called we call it cola champagne but what it 00:36:08.464 --> 00:36:11.344 is is cola champagne no it's not 00:36:11.344 --> 00:36:14.164 alcohol it's legit a soda but let 00:36:14.164 --> 00:36:20.404 me tell you to me that is like a fucking cream soda on crack like it tastes 00:36:20.404 --> 00:36:26.104 so goddamn good like it is a fucking great so full champagne never heard of 00:36:26.104 --> 00:36:30.844 that one yeah i've heard of that yeah dude you know what if i ever meet up with 00:36:30.844 --> 00:36:33.644 you guys i'm gonna make sure i say if I ever. 00:36:34.144 --> 00:36:39.324 When I meet up with you guys next time, I'm going to make sure I bring some 00:36:39.324 --> 00:36:40.544 cola champagnes for you guys. 00:36:40.584 --> 00:36:43.944 I'll bring a fucking cooler, make sure them shits are nice and cold so you guys 00:36:43.944 --> 00:36:47.544 can see exactly what I'm talking about. I wonder, I'm looking at it right now. 00:36:47.864 --> 00:36:50.004 There's the brain Goya makes one. 00:36:51.419 --> 00:36:54.959 That would be a good one. India, I like to go with the one with India, 00:36:55.099 --> 00:36:57.499 but either way, it has a similar profile. 00:36:57.839 --> 00:37:02.519 Well, I know that the supermarket sells the Goya. I know there's a yellow one, 00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.159 and there's the Mandarin one. I'm wondering if they have this. No, no, no. 00:37:05.839 --> 00:37:09.039 I wonder if they have this one is what I'm saying because I've seen those on 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:14.319 the shelf, and I don't pay attention to them because they put it in the aisle 00:37:14.319 --> 00:37:17.199 away from the sodas, but you just have to catch it walking by. 00:37:17.319 --> 00:37:21.959 I wonder if that's the exact aisle. That's the exact aisle that you will get 00:37:21.959 --> 00:37:26.099 it from Now check this out They have the 2 liter bottles I don't really fuck 00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:30.619 with the 2 liter bottles of that shit Because I feel like I don't know It doesn't 00:37:30.619 --> 00:37:34.199 taste the same for me The cans is what tastes, 00:37:34.659 --> 00:37:38.719 Exactly the way I want it to taste With that shit Yeah I'll look out for them. 00:37:40.219 --> 00:37:44.959 Alright you guys want to get into this 10th Mountain Rye real quick Get it, 00:37:46.759 --> 00:37:48.839 I'm sipping on it occasionally of here. 00:37:51.379 --> 00:37:55.579 We've talked about this on the show before. This is a fantastic rye. 00:37:55.859 --> 00:37:57.659 Jerry, you got details when I have the bottle right here. 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.719 I got mine on the rocks. I probably should have... 00:38:03.642 --> 00:38:10.222 Yeah, so this is a 10th Mountain Rye Whiskey. This one's coming in at two years old at 115 proof. 00:38:10.562 --> 00:38:16.662 This is a single barrel selected by the Sip Society. It's a small little group on Instagram. 00:38:17.142 --> 00:38:20.502 I helped select this one with, what was it, five of us? 00:38:21.402 --> 00:38:23.442 Five or six of us, and then Brian Dewar. 00:38:24.642 --> 00:38:29.222 He's the military distribution manager or something. 00:38:29.342 --> 00:38:32.622 I don't know. He does something with distribution and going to different bases 00:38:32.622 --> 00:38:40.042 and trying to get his products on base through the exchanges and whatever different 00:38:40.042 --> 00:38:44.382 branches call their stores. 00:38:44.882 --> 00:38:47.902 So we had him on. Oh, like the AFEs and all that shit? Yeah, 00:38:47.982 --> 00:38:52.502 the exchanges, PXs, the NXs. It's really the classic that sells the alcohol. Yeah. 00:38:53.102 --> 00:38:57.962 I know each branch calls it something different, but he's the one trying to get into those stores. 00:38:57.962 --> 00:39:00.662 So we were on there with him it's like i said two 00:39:00.662 --> 00:39:03.322 years i think it was about 85 bucks but it's a 00:39:03.322 --> 00:39:06.622 69 rye 27 corn and 4 malted 00:39:06.622 --> 00:39:10.762 barley and when i say brian 00:39:10.762 --> 00:39:14.702 said that he's going to send some samples this motherfucker sent nine samples 00:39:14.702 --> 00:39:22.002 we drank through nine samples to figure this fucking and what they do is they 00:39:22.002 --> 00:39:27.742 they basically have a batch they distill and have a batch of of the rye and 00:39:27.742 --> 00:39:29.862 then they keep one at cast strength. 00:39:31.137 --> 00:39:34.457 Proof one down to 96 proof 00:39:34.457 --> 00:39:37.157 there's i think their their standard offering and then 00:39:37.157 --> 00:39:40.417 they also proof one down to 100 or 00:39:40.417 --> 00:39:43.357 110 i think in in the barrels and 00:39:43.357 --> 00:39:46.397 watch them age as they do that so we tried three different 00:39:46.397 --> 00:39:49.337 basically batches at three different proofs for a 00:39:49.337 --> 00:39:52.637 total of nine offering or nine samples we were 00:39:52.637 --> 00:39:55.497 not sober by the end of this but i'm pretty 00:39:55.497 --> 00:39:58.137 sure we picked a fantastic barrel i've liked this one i 00:39:58.137 --> 00:40:00.857 picked up a shit ton of them i think i've 00:40:00.857 --> 00:40:03.597 said it yeah so for me 00:40:03.597 --> 00:40:07.077 on the nose there is a little bit of youthfulness like i said it is two years 00:40:07.077 --> 00:40:12.897 but that dissipates real quick a lot of caramel and cherry notes a little bit 00:40:12.897 --> 00:40:17.757 of chocolate and i also get a little bit of like a floral like fresh flowers 00:40:17.757 --> 00:40:22.337 on it it's weird when i say floral it usually get that 00:40:22.557 --> 00:40:26.417 standard like rye floral but this one actually like that 00:40:26.417 --> 00:40:29.857 running through the the the flower like 00:40:29.857 --> 00:40:35.597 garden just like running through it that's what it smelled like so what would 00:40:35.597 --> 00:40:41.537 you guys i get like that floral for me it's like a honeysuckle which is nice 00:40:41.537 --> 00:40:46.277 on the nose on the palate which i'm about to pour my last for a bottle kill 00:40:46.277 --> 00:40:48.897 this bottle unfortunately it's that to go but. 00:40:50.078 --> 00:40:52.938 Two pours left for this show so on the palate 00:40:52.938 --> 00:40:56.218 i get a lot of there's sweet notes for it being a or 00:40:56.218 --> 00:40:59.578 rye but i get mint pick out mint yeah and 00:40:59.578 --> 00:41:03.038 a mint with this cigar it goes 00:41:03.038 --> 00:41:05.918 perfect it's like an andy's candy like those 00:41:05.918 --> 00:41:08.678 chocolate with the mint in the middle and then chocolate and 00:41:08.678 --> 00:41:11.918 little you know oh nice when i take 00:41:11.918 --> 00:41:14.798 a sip of this take a bowl and scar and then take 00:41:14.798 --> 00:41:18.218 another sip right after it's like an andy's candy it's fantastic it's 00:41:18.218 --> 00:41:21.198 perfect pairing because it gets some darker notes 00:41:21.198 --> 00:41:23.938 from the cigar and this mint it's a 00:41:23.938 --> 00:41:27.418 little hint of like vacant spice or cinnamon in there too so if it's 00:41:27.418 --> 00:41:30.358 it plays well with the cigar so this is a very good 00:41:30.358 --> 00:41:33.018 pairing the best one yet because like i said i started out with 00:41:33.018 --> 00:41:39.838 a knob 12 and then went to the taconic barrel strength those were good they 00:41:39.838 --> 00:41:45.258 definitely were you know sweeter but this one with the the mint and the herbalness 00:41:45.258 --> 00:41:52.278 of this rye is my favorite pairing so far out of the three with this cigar. So it's a good one. 00:41:53.178 --> 00:41:59.878 Yeah, I feel like I get some of the same that those honey notes when I smell it and everything. 00:42:00.138 --> 00:42:03.258 Now, I don't know if it's because I'm smoking the Charlie Mike, right? 00:42:03.458 --> 00:42:08.798 So when I first sip on this, it feels like we're somewhere in the 90s, 00:42:08.858 --> 00:42:10.178 you know, when it comes to the proof. 00:42:10.298 --> 00:42:14.938 However, when I smoked the Charlie Mike, I feel like the spices kind of elevate 00:42:14.938 --> 00:42:18.398 a little and it brings it up into those low hundreds. 00:42:20.515 --> 00:42:24.335 Yeah, this cigar definitely brings out some spicy notes from the whiskey. 00:42:25.655 --> 00:42:30.815 So the overall tasting notes when basically all of us that picked it, 00:42:30.915 --> 00:42:31.935 we kind of threw our notes in. 00:42:32.175 --> 00:42:39.155 The nose was dark caramel, floral, orange peel, faint dill, wheat or hayfield, 00:42:39.655 --> 00:42:43.035 farm tobacco, velvet, light smokes and tobacco. 00:42:43.035 --> 00:42:47.795 The palate was rye bread, cherry or plum, white pepper, tobacco, 00:42:48.195 --> 00:42:52.855 cocoa, hints of grain, maraschino cherries, orange zest, and the finish was 00:42:52.855 --> 00:42:54.355 rye spices, slight anise. 00:42:55.488 --> 00:43:02.348 Bitter chocolatey bitter chocolate nutty note almost like mocha more orange zest and more tobacco, 00:43:02.828 --> 00:43:05.628 so that was like the over like like i said there was like six or 00:43:05.628 --> 00:43:09.668 so of us on there that was all of us putting our notes together and i 00:43:09.668 --> 00:43:13.648 don't remember how long after we picked it it got dumped but i'm still getting 00:43:13.648 --> 00:43:18.588 about the same same notes a little like that i remember that bitter chocolate 00:43:18.588 --> 00:43:23.468 nutty note was my my note it's it's not like in a bad way it's just like you're 00:43:23.468 --> 00:43:27.568 eating would that be like walnuts or something like that. 00:43:27.688 --> 00:43:32.428 It has a little bit of that tannic note to it. Not in a bad way, but it's there. 00:43:33.988 --> 00:43:37.308 I get a little bit of baking spices with it. Like you said, with the cigar, 00:43:37.508 --> 00:43:38.608 it ramps up those spices. 00:43:39.588 --> 00:43:44.628 It changes this pour a lot. It makes it better, I think. 00:43:45.948 --> 00:43:49.108 A very good pairing. Two veteran-owned companies. 00:43:49.608 --> 00:43:53.408 Well, 10th Mountain isn't veteran-owned. They're just a legit. yeah 00:43:53.408 --> 00:43:56.948 they they're the the brand out there that supports 00:43:56.948 --> 00:44:00.428 veteran therapy we recognize so we 00:44:00.428 --> 00:44:03.268 appreciate the love and everything they're doing this 00:44:03.268 --> 00:44:06.108 is and it's a and and it's great it tastes 00:44:06.108 --> 00:44:10.708 super dude i gotta turn me these lights on give me a second it's starting to 00:44:10.708 --> 00:44:15.288 get dark on this i give a second yeah as he's turning on these lights so they're 00:44:15.288 --> 00:44:18.688 not 10th mountain's not veteran owned but most of their employees i want to 00:44:18.688 --> 00:44:24.528 say are veterans amount of charities and then they They support all the charities and on every, 00:44:24.588 --> 00:44:28.948 the back of every bottle, they have their little general government surgeons 00:44:28.948 --> 00:44:32.808 warning bullshit that they got to put on it, but they also put what charities that they support. 00:44:33.148 --> 00:44:38.368 So for this bottle, they supported the Vail veterans programs and War Angel concerts. 00:44:38.708 --> 00:44:41.828 So they do a lot with, with charities and veterans charities. 00:44:42.048 --> 00:44:47.928 Obviously 10th mountain is an homage to the old 10th mountain regiment who I 00:44:47.928 --> 00:44:50.908 believe is now in New York, but they used to be out in Vail, Colorado. 00:44:52.365 --> 00:44:55.845 Really? I didn't know that. That's cool to know. 00:44:56.065 --> 00:45:00.285 Yeah, I definitely know a couple of 10th Mountain guys, super, 00:45:00.285 --> 00:45:02.245 super dope guys and stuff like that. 00:45:02.365 --> 00:45:05.225 So shout out to all those guys that served in the 10th Mountain division. 00:45:05.525 --> 00:45:11.705 Yeah, I think it was Brian that was saying, telling a story that he was at one, which one? 00:45:11.785 --> 00:45:15.905 I think Vail is right outside of Ski Resort. They got two locations. 00:45:16.205 --> 00:45:20.445 One of them is right outside of Ski Resort. And he was working in the tasting room there. 00:45:21.125 --> 00:45:23.885 And some guys came in apparently they were 00:45:23.885 --> 00:45:27.265 they were in the uh 10th mountain regiment 00:45:27.265 --> 00:45:29.945 and saw the name and they were like what the 00:45:29.945 --> 00:45:32.745 fuck is this and they walked in and started drinking the whiskey and started 00:45:32.745 --> 00:45:35.865 talking with brian and i guess one of them had their their 00:45:35.865 --> 00:45:39.845 patch with them and basically gave them the patch to put up on the wall or something 00:45:39.845 --> 00:45:45.325 along those lines so it's it was cool because they were they weren't from colorado 00:45:45.325 --> 00:45:48.465 they were just there skiing and they saw this little 10th Mountain thing and 00:45:48.465 --> 00:45:53.525 they're like hey that's us and they walked over there had some whiskey and ended up Brian is a. 00:45:54.625 --> 00:46:00.565 10th Mountains Army Brian is a marine vet so it's they started talking and he's 00:46:00.565 --> 00:46:02.345 like I'm a marine and they're like eh fuck you, 00:46:03.385 --> 00:46:09.345 basically but this is Brian Brian Dewar which have you heard of Dewar Scotch 00:46:09.345 --> 00:46:17.125 yes so his family he's from that family so I need to get Brian one of our cigars 00:46:17.125 --> 00:46:19.905 Because one of our cigars I don't have it out here right now But, 00:46:20.365 --> 00:46:21.805 Man I thought this lighting Was 00:46:21.805 --> 00:46:25.445 going to be much better Yeah no worries I guess it's not that great But, 00:46:26.402 --> 00:46:33.762 of our cigars is our Since 1775 cigar, which is dedicated for Marines. 00:46:34.082 --> 00:46:40.142 It was in honor of my cousin who's, he retired as a Sergeant Major from the Marine Corps. 00:46:40.322 --> 00:46:44.382 So I wanted to make a cigar that was dedicated to Marines because of him. 00:46:44.682 --> 00:46:48.822 And so it's definitely one of the Marines favorites, 00:46:48.822 --> 00:46:56.282 The CIN 1775 cigar And that is in a Sumatra wrapper So definitely a great cigar 00:46:56.282 --> 00:47:01.082 for Maureen So maybe we can get Brian One of those CIN 1775 cigars. 00:47:02.420 --> 00:47:08.820 Could uh we could talk after this or eventually down the road and for sure get crying something, 00:47:09.380 --> 00:47:13.980 he's a great dude like i said he sent us nine samples to figure this whiskey 00:47:13.980 --> 00:47:18.840 out and usually barrel picks you get three if you get lucky five barrel like 00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:25.400 five samples or five barrels he sent nine so wow amazing it was it was crazy 00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.140 it was fun luckily i didn't have to work the next day. 00:47:32.240 --> 00:47:35.840 So i also sent out excuse me 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.640 some beard oil to paul and adam and then 00:47:38.640 --> 00:47:41.560 i met up with carlos gave him some oil it's from 00:47:41.560 --> 00:47:44.340 a brand called bearded that is all you can find them 00:47:44.340 --> 00:47:47.300 at bearded usa.com another veteran 00:47:47.300 --> 00:47:50.180 owned and family ran business their father 00:47:50.180 --> 00:47:52.860 and son the father mark is an air 00:47:52.860 --> 00:47:56.160 force veteran he joined in 88 served for 00:47:56.160 --> 00:47:59.660 six years got out and then 9-11 happened 00:47:59.660 --> 00:48:04.940 and then like seven years later in 2008 he decided fuck it i'm joining again 00:48:04.940 --> 00:48:10.420 so he reenlisted in 2008 got out basically had your mantra he had to figure 00:48:10.420 --> 00:48:17.060 the fuck out they decided to uh start a uh, a beard grooming company. 00:48:17.740 --> 00:48:23.240 And, uh, when he was in, he was a A-10 Warthog fuel systems tech. 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:27.680 So that's kind of cool. Those, those fucking planes are, are awesome. 00:48:28.120 --> 00:48:31.560 Absolutely. And he, he was working on those, but they're based out of Arkansas 00:48:31.560 --> 00:48:33.480 and they partner with mission 22. 00:48:34.660 --> 00:48:40.140 So those that don't know, mission 22 is a nonprofit focusing on ending veteran 00:48:40.140 --> 00:48:44.740 suit, ending veteran suicide, they say that 22 veterans a day, 00:48:45.668 --> 00:48:48.628 themselves and they're trying to stop that which is yes definitely have 00:48:48.628 --> 00:48:51.708 to uh definitely have to stop and try 00:48:51.708 --> 00:48:54.588 to help help out so they do that they donate one dollar 00:48:54.588 --> 00:48:57.948 from every order and i picked up two 00:48:57.948 --> 00:49:01.088 cents the brass and bourbon which is bourbon vanilla 00:49:01.088 --> 00:49:04.328 black cherry tobacco and aged brass 00:49:04.328 --> 00:49:08.328 and then the final flight which is bourbon cigar 00:49:08.328 --> 00:49:11.308 charred wood and smoke ground sugar 00:49:11.308 --> 00:49:14.348 and roasted marshmallow and sandalwood and musk 00:49:14.348 --> 00:49:17.228 i've really enjoyed these the 00:49:17.228 --> 00:49:20.248 ingredients are all cold pressed oils you got jojoba 00:49:20.248 --> 00:49:25.808 argan metal foam apricot and caster along with their fragrance and vitamin e 00:49:25.808 --> 00:49:31.008 and the fragrance is all 100 natural i've really enjoyed these these the final 00:49:31.008 --> 00:49:36.588 flight was my my favorite with the the cigar and bourbon pairing that that it 00:49:36.588 --> 00:49:38.308 says to cigar but Honestly, 00:49:38.508 --> 00:49:41.728 it reminded me more of like fresh to like not fresh but tobacco leaves hanging 00:49:41.728 --> 00:49:46.708 in a barn like that Like walking around a barn of tobacco leaves with with a whiskey in your hand 00:49:47.128 --> 00:49:49.888 With a little bit of like sweetness in there and a little bit of musk, 00:49:49.928 --> 00:49:53.068 but that one I enjoyed a lot What do you guys think about him? 00:49:53.968 --> 00:50:00.028 So Yeah, right No, I was gonna say well first speaking of fit for, 00:50:00.737 --> 00:50:04.317 I have this lighting issue and I know I have my fucking watch on. 00:50:04.477 --> 00:50:09.277 So I'm about to look at that here. 00:50:09.877 --> 00:50:13.617 There we go. A little better than that shit is bright. I never knew how to play 00:50:13.617 --> 00:50:14.517 it. That fucking light goes. 00:50:15.197 --> 00:50:21.897 So yeah, final flight. That's the exact beard oil that I currently have on. I love it. 00:50:22.377 --> 00:50:27.597 It's a great smell. I tend to judge these oils, not necessarily by the smell 00:50:27.597 --> 00:50:31.277 that I get from the bottle, But after I put it on, unless, of course, 00:50:31.377 --> 00:50:33.497 it's like, I really don't want to. 00:50:33.637 --> 00:50:37.697 So, but with this one, I immediately like smelled. 00:50:37.717 --> 00:50:41.777 I was like, all right, let me see what this really smells like. So I put it on the beard. 00:50:42.297 --> 00:50:46.897 Boom, boom, boom. And of course, the real person that's going to check out in this shit. 00:50:46.997 --> 00:50:49.997 And I got to get my wife to come over here and be like, oh, yeah, 00:50:50.117 --> 00:50:52.337 you know what? I like the smell of that. Then I'm like, okay, 00:50:52.637 --> 00:50:54.517 now I know it's fucking super golden. 00:50:54.657 --> 00:50:56.697 So, yeah, I like the smell of it. 00:50:56.917 --> 00:51:01.457 Great smell immediately. not overpowering, not underpowering. 00:51:01.577 --> 00:51:07.677 I can smell it in a subtle way, which to me, that should be the goal of anybody, 00:51:08.317 --> 00:51:11.457 putting scents in these type of beard oils. 00:51:11.457 --> 00:51:15.297 It should not be to be an overpowering smell. It should be a nice, 00:51:15.937 --> 00:51:20.337 subtle odor that's coming from I don't know what the fucking correct word to use. 00:51:20.457 --> 00:51:23.797 I don't know if it's odor, smell. I feel like those are all negative words. 00:51:24.217 --> 00:51:30.677 Aroma. There we go. A nice fucking aroma. So yeah it's definitely good Man this 00:51:30.677 --> 00:51:34.717 fucking night on this watch Is insane Like right now I just looked at it And 00:51:34.717 --> 00:51:37.757 I just see two way lights right now As I'm looking at you guys. 00:51:39.477 --> 00:51:44.217 I knew we did I had the time change today But I wasn't thinking that It's going 00:51:44.217 --> 00:51:50.817 to get dark early today So I'm sitting out here and I'm like oh I thought I was good and ready Maybe, 00:51:52.168 --> 00:51:57.168 why he figures it the fuck out. Did I? Am I here? There you go. Testing. 00:51:58.168 --> 00:52:01.308 Testing, testing. Yeah, you're good. You want black witches? 00:52:01.548 --> 00:52:04.768 It went all black for a minute, all dark for a minute, but you're back. 00:52:05.588 --> 00:52:10.688 Yeah, well, I'm also wearing... Yep. We can hear you. You're there. 00:52:11.068 --> 00:52:12.948 What just happened? Can you hear us? 00:52:14.068 --> 00:52:17.468 What the hell just happened here? Can you hear us? Freeze? 00:52:18.288 --> 00:52:21.888 You won. Oh, you guys can see me? Yeah, we can hear and see you. 00:52:21.888 --> 00:52:24.648 You won. You went all black for like three seconds. Fuck, I can't hear you. 00:52:24.768 --> 00:52:25.928 What the hell just happened? 00:52:26.948 --> 00:52:31.588 All right. You there? I don't know what just happened. Everybody froze on me 00:52:31.588 --> 00:52:34.168 except... Hold on. Can you hear us now? 00:52:34.828 --> 00:52:37.268 What the fuck just happened? Give me a quick second. 00:52:51.069 --> 00:52:54.929 He's jumping out and jumping back in wearing the the final flight right now 00:52:54.929 --> 00:53:00.029 over that's what i have in well i'm back can hear us i don't know what the fuck just happened. 00:53:02.909 --> 00:53:05.869 I have no idea what just happened you went 00:53:05.869 --> 00:53:08.889 all black screen for about three seconds and then you came back and we 00:53:08.889 --> 00:53:11.969 could hear you and see you but i don't think you could hear us yeah no 00:53:11.969 --> 00:53:14.869 it's just like i don't know what i don't 00:53:14.869 --> 00:53:17.789 know what the hell happened that's all good what was 00:53:17.789 --> 00:53:20.709 the last thing i said uh you you finished up 00:53:20.709 --> 00:53:23.629 you're talking about how you like the aroma of the 00:53:23.629 --> 00:53:26.469 we heard we heard you all the way through until all of 00:53:26.469 --> 00:53:31.149 a sudden you just dropped but i think you i don't know what the fuck happened 00:53:31.149 --> 00:53:36.989 but yeah mainly but yeah overall i definitely love the the aroma of this beer 00:53:36.989 --> 00:53:44.489 oil yeah that's the same one that i put on in my beard uh today and i I really like this Final Flight. 00:53:44.969 --> 00:53:48.569 The scent, I mean, it's great. It goes really well with, I mean, 00:53:48.569 --> 00:53:52.989 I saw the note of Cuban cigar, so I figured, well, today if we're going to be 00:53:52.989 --> 00:53:56.529 smoking cigars and talking about this oil, I might as well use this one today. 00:53:56.829 --> 00:54:02.009 And it's nice. I mean, I don't know that I get any brown sugar or roasted marshmallow 00:54:02.009 --> 00:54:05.469 out of it, which is one of the notes, but... There's definitely some kind of 00:54:05.469 --> 00:54:07.069 sweetness in there, though. There's a sweetness. 00:54:07.369 --> 00:54:12.829 There's a, you know, kind of vanilla muskiness to it. I really like the scent. 00:54:13.129 --> 00:54:16.049 The brass and bourbon i really like that one too 00:54:16.049 --> 00:54:18.749 that one was more of a like a musky set to me 00:54:18.749 --> 00:54:23.969 and they don't mention that in their profile scent profile but i really like 00:54:23.969 --> 00:54:27.809 both scents i like the oil the oil is a thinner oil that's what i like it's 00:54:27.809 --> 00:54:32.689 a thinner oil the prices are great 20 bucks for one ounce oil 22 for a butter 00:54:32.689 --> 00:54:38.389 it's a two ounce butter and they have a bundle deal for 35 you get a butter and an oil. 00:54:39.637 --> 00:54:42.677 Uh they jerry like jerry said that one dollar for 00:54:42.677 --> 00:54:45.737 each order goes to mission 22 they also partner with guvx 00:54:45.737 --> 00:54:48.637 and so if you have a guvx account you can 00:54:48.637 --> 00:54:51.437 get 100 off each order which is a pretty 00:54:51.437 --> 00:54:57.637 decent discount for having a guvx account so i really like these oils great 00:54:57.637 --> 00:55:01.377 great names to them i like i like their you know their website their branding 00:55:01.377 --> 00:55:06.637 and all that kind of stuff yeah i was not aware of this company until jerry 00:55:06.637 --> 00:55:10.517 sent these samples out but i am now i'm not really phantom. 00:55:11.097 --> 00:55:17.057 You know, kind of going back to what you guys were just talking about, about Mission 22, 00:55:17.457 --> 00:55:26.097 you know, I can only hope that as a veteran owned company that I am able to 00:55:26.097 --> 00:55:30.617 somehow impact other veterans out there because I understand. 00:55:31.457 --> 00:55:37.377 What it's like when you're trying to fit full and you miss the camaraderie. 00:55:37.477 --> 00:55:43.737 You miss everything about the fact of when you were in the military and how it made you feel. 00:55:43.937 --> 00:55:48.377 And then you come to this outside and you're like, man, I don't have any of that anymore. 00:55:49.037 --> 00:55:55.157 So, you know, as I've jumped on this journey of the fitful journey and trying 00:55:55.157 --> 00:56:01.277 to figure things out, I've been lucky to find something that, you know, has, you know, 00:56:01.777 --> 00:56:05.577 made me extremely passionate and given me a purpose. 00:56:05.577 --> 00:56:08.437 And you know i can only hope that 00:56:08.437 --> 00:56:11.857 i continuously help that same 00:56:11.857 --> 00:56:16.737 mission to help other veterans to also figure it the fuck out to say you know 00:56:16.737 --> 00:56:22.277 what like the military was dope it was something i did and and i take extreme 00:56:22.277 --> 00:56:29.297 pride in but it's also just another chapter in my life and and and and i want 00:56:29.297 --> 00:56:31.737 to find another chapter in my life and and. 00:56:33.164 --> 00:56:37.204 That's what I'm currently on right now is, is another chapter in my life. 00:56:37.344 --> 00:56:41.004 It's just another chapter in, in the book of my life. 00:56:41.184 --> 00:56:45.364 And, and, and, and I can only hope that other veterans see this and, 00:56:45.384 --> 00:56:47.904 and become inspired and, 00:56:48.544 --> 00:56:52.804 and, and, you know, to wanting to start whatever journey they may be on, 00:56:52.884 --> 00:56:56.624 because it doesn't always have to be about business, right? 00:56:56.784 --> 00:57:02.184 Like sometimes the journey could be all kinds of things. It can be business. It can be fitness. 00:57:02.444 --> 00:57:05.584 It can be running. It could be, you know, 00:57:05.804 --> 00:57:10.064 whatever it may be, just, just know that there's something out there and, 00:57:10.164 --> 00:57:15.924 and you just got to get out there and, and, and get out of the dark zone and 00:57:15.924 --> 00:57:19.604 the constantly just in, in your mind. 00:57:19.724 --> 00:57:23.024 You know what I mean? Like sometimes we, we do that. We will stay in our mind 00:57:23.024 --> 00:57:26.884 and, and, you know, we don't want to go explore what else is out there in this 00:57:26.884 --> 00:57:31.144 world. And there's, There's a lot out there and no one's got to get out there and beat it. 00:57:31.204 --> 00:57:33.944 So I can only hope that I can help inspire. 00:57:34.704 --> 00:57:39.344 So I think this is a, a good little segue to our, our giveaway. 00:57:41.176 --> 00:57:49.156 So we try to do a giveaway right before we had our little mid-season break back 00:57:49.156 --> 00:57:53.056 in June or July, but no one really followed the rules. 00:57:53.596 --> 00:57:58.656 But we are giving away a bottle of this unopened, not this bottle, 00:57:58.756 --> 00:58:01.316 but an unopened bottle of this 10th Mountain Rye that we've been drinking. 00:58:01.496 --> 00:58:08.576 We have a 150 or so count humidor and a bundle from Lit Beard Co. 00:58:08.576 --> 00:58:13.496 So it's their Patriot's Punch Stent Profile, which comes with a one-ounce oil, 00:58:13.676 --> 00:58:18.576 two-ounce balm, and a four-ounce bearded wash. So one winner will get all three of those. 00:58:19.316 --> 00:58:23.336 So I guess this is the official start of that giveaway. We haven't really just 00:58:23.336 --> 00:58:26.496 talked about an ending, when it's going to end. 00:58:26.656 --> 00:58:33.136 But I'm thinking November 29th, since we record the 30th. Throw in one of our five packs. 00:58:33.516 --> 00:58:36.356 In that same giveaway, throw in one of our five packs. 00:58:36.576 --> 00:58:40.876 There you go. One of our five packs, we'll throw in a variety of our cigars 00:58:40.876 --> 00:58:45.236 in there and we'll include it in that giveaway. Super dope for you guys. 00:58:45.636 --> 00:58:50.876 Perfect. So not only with the bottle, the humidor and the Lit Beard Co., 00:58:50.876 --> 00:58:55.876 we'll figure out whether it's a five pack of one or we'll figure it out once it comes down to it. 00:58:55.976 --> 00:59:00.896 I'll do a little variety to give people a little taste of the Charlie Mikes, 00:59:01.096 --> 00:59:04.696 maybe the number four, a couple of different Montedeleum cigars. 00:59:06.536 --> 00:59:12.576 I'm thinking we run this until midnight of the 29th, which is a Saturday. 00:59:12.576 --> 00:59:19.436 We record the 30th, which is Sunday, and we'll announce the winner then, which I'm thinking. 00:59:19.576 --> 00:59:23.716 We'll have to talk about this offline to actually figure out the actual details. 00:59:23.836 --> 00:59:29.876 This is the start of it, along with the typical liking. We'll put up a post or something. 00:59:30.196 --> 00:59:34.436 You got to like it. You tag some friends in it, share it, follow all of our 00:59:34.436 --> 00:59:36.256 socials, all that good stuff like you normally do. 00:59:36.536 --> 00:59:40.016 You'll get one entry from each of those each each 00:59:40.016 --> 00:59:43.036 comment with tags you'll get an entry each like 00:59:43.036 --> 00:59:45.976 you'll get an entry you follow us on our socials get 00:59:45.976 --> 00:59:49.196 an entry but the main thing is you got to donate to your favorite military 00:59:49.196 --> 00:59:52.236 or veteran charity boom for every 00:59:52.236 --> 00:59:57.336 five dollars you donate is one entry so five bucks one dollar ten dollar or 00:59:57.336 --> 01:00:02.136 five bucks one entry ten bucks two entries and so on so forth you got to send 01:00:02.136 --> 01:00:07.236 us a screenshot of your confirmation you could black out all like personal information 01:00:07.236 --> 01:00:09.196 all we got to do is see your name and how much you donated. 01:00:10.479 --> 01:00:13.539 Get you in there and i'm thinking i've been 01:00:13.539 --> 01:00:16.999 trying to get a hold of bryce from silent hero 01:00:16.999 --> 01:00:20.419 cigars he works with a service dog of charity 01:00:20.419 --> 01:00:26.419 i'm trying to talk to him because he he he has a dog from this company and he 01:00:26.419 --> 01:00:30.939 knows how much it is to get like have to pay for this dog and train and everything 01:00:30.939 --> 01:00:36.019 so what one thing he's trying to do is basically get it paid for for one veteran 01:00:36.019 --> 01:00:37.739 that All they have to do is go in, 01:00:37.919 --> 01:00:41.379 get fit for a dog, and they don't have to do anything out of pocket. 01:00:42.019 --> 01:00:45.559 So I'm trying to verify that actual charity. 01:00:46.019 --> 01:00:49.079 And if you donate to that one, you'll get double entries. 01:00:49.279 --> 01:00:54.239 So you donate $5, you get two entries, $10, four entries, and so on and so forth. 01:00:54.779 --> 01:00:58.919 So that would be that. But the main thing, even if you don't comment or like 01:00:58.919 --> 01:01:03.579 or anything, the main thing is donating to your favorite veteran or military charity. 01:01:04.299 --> 01:01:07.479 That's the one thing that the three of us have always 01:01:07.479 --> 01:01:10.559 been trying to get out there is even if 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.579 we only get one person to donate five bucks at least that's something 01:01:13.579 --> 01:01:17.679 it's it's something that helps out hopefully eventually we could get a couple 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:22.279 thousand dollars donated from people that listen or whatnot but we're just starting 01:01:22.279 --> 01:01:26.899 out so even if one person donates five bucks you could win all all these gifts 01:01:26.899 --> 01:01:30.839 like i said there'll be a post out i don't know sometime this week. 01:01:32.139 --> 01:01:34.219 We'll figure out a time to put that up but, 01:01:34.911 --> 01:01:40.171 Like I said, donate, follow us, like us, tag people, get them donating. 01:01:40.451 --> 01:01:46.331 And hopefully we could help some of these veterans out with whatever charity you decide to donate to. 01:01:46.791 --> 01:01:52.431 And honestly, I know, like I said, this bottle's $85. That humidor, 01:01:52.651 --> 01:01:54.211 I don't remember what Adam had. 01:01:54.971 --> 01:01:58.811 Lit Beard is what, like $40, $50 for that bundle, I think. I want to say the 01:01:58.811 --> 01:02:01.011 humidor was like $150. Something like that. 01:02:01.511 --> 01:02:04.311 One is five pack. I mean, you're talking several hundred dollars. 01:02:05.791 --> 01:02:09.851 And all you're doing is you're donating to a charity the money's not coming 01:02:09.851 --> 01:02:14.171 to us or through us we get nothing from it just we want to you know we just 01:02:14.171 --> 01:02:15.511 want to help people for yeah. 01:02:16.691 --> 01:02:21.671 Well be on the lookout for that actual giveaway post which i like i said it 01:02:21.671 --> 01:02:26.431 should be out by the time this episode actually post it should be out so go 01:02:26.431 --> 01:02:28.431 take a look for it i'll i'll uh, 01:02:29.011 --> 01:02:34.231 i'll tag it on or i'll pin it or whatever you call it on on the instagram page 01:02:34.231 --> 01:02:37.751 so you just go on there and find it but yeah by the time this episode actually 01:02:37.751 --> 01:02:42.311 gets posted if you're not listening to us on live it'll already be out and like 01:02:42.311 --> 01:02:43.871 i said we'll run it through november, 01:02:44.431 --> 01:02:47.711 and pick a winner at the end of november yeah hopefully 01:02:47.711 --> 01:02:50.711 we hopefully we drive some support and we get some people 01:02:50.711 --> 01:02:53.591 you know taking the time taking a couple bucks here 01:02:53.591 --> 01:02:56.711 or there we know it's right before the holidays that sometimes can 01:02:56.711 --> 01:02:59.411 be hard to come off with that extra cash right 01:02:59.411 --> 01:03:02.511 before the holidays but you know think about it the other 01:03:02.511 --> 01:03:06.051 way where it's right before the holidays when a lot of the support is needed 01:03:06.051 --> 01:03:13.111 um and talking with a lot of veterans that we've had on here whether it's been 01:03:13.111 --> 01:03:20.431 brian or or bryce and with everyone the holidays are can be the hardest time, 01:03:21.408 --> 01:03:26.148 especially with some, if you've lost some people, whether it's in overseas or 01:03:26.148 --> 01:03:29.768 with this veteran suicide or something. So it's, it's definitely a hard time for people. 01:03:30.308 --> 01:03:34.688 So I said, five bucks to any charity, not to us. 01:03:34.968 --> 01:03:37.648 We don't, we don't see any of this. We don't want to see any of this. 01:03:37.728 --> 01:03:38.768 We just want to see your confirmation. 01:03:39.908 --> 01:03:44.388 And yeah, we'd love to get these products out to one person. 01:03:44.388 --> 01:03:49.288 And then, like I said in the past, if, if we get a, a big turnout for this. 01:03:50.648 --> 01:03:54.768 Maybe I've got a bunch of cigars in the inside the house that I'll never smoke 01:03:54.768 --> 01:03:58.228 through because I got too damn many maybe I'll throw more of my personal in 01:03:58.228 --> 01:04:00.368 there along with the five pack that, 01:04:00.848 --> 01:04:05.648 Monte De La Long is throwing out there so definitely a great giveaway at least 01:04:05.648 --> 01:04:12.308 in my personal opinion absolutely absolutely oh yeah definitely so here's the 01:04:12.308 --> 01:04:15.908 big question for you five years from now what are you going to be doing Yeah. 01:04:17.744 --> 01:04:20.564 Where do you see this path evolving to for you? 01:04:21.124 --> 01:04:25.164 So for me, so I'll tell you a few things. 01:04:25.524 --> 01:04:29.044 Number one, I'm going to address something that people keep asking me, 01:04:29.204 --> 01:04:32.504 especially if you follow me on our page, Monte de Leon Cigars. 01:04:32.624 --> 01:04:37.584 I will tell you that we are not a page like you are a custom to. 01:04:37.804 --> 01:04:42.384 So if you go follow Monte de Leon Cigars, you're going to realize that I post 01:04:42.384 --> 01:04:49.044 all kinds of wild shit. not just, I don't just post pictures of my cigars that I'm trying to sell. 01:04:49.244 --> 01:04:54.424 Matter of fact, that's probably the last thing I do on my page because that 01:04:54.424 --> 01:05:00.744 is just not who I am as a person. So it makes it real difficult for me to constantly try to sell to people. 01:05:00.944 --> 01:05:06.844 What I simply do is I post who I am on a personal basis, what I do. 01:05:07.064 --> 01:05:12.964 And people tend to, I don't know, they tend to rock with that type of behavior of how I am. 01:05:13.104 --> 01:05:17.264 And a lot of people ask me because they see me constantly posting shit about 01:05:17.264 --> 01:05:22.824 a lot of things that I do when it comes to being physical, especially when it comes to running. 01:05:23.304 --> 01:05:27.384 And I've had this question come up a lot on my page where they're like, 01:05:27.484 --> 01:05:31.664 hey, how is it that you're fucking smoking cigars all the time, 01:05:31.704 --> 01:05:33.884 but you're always fucking running? 01:05:34.104 --> 01:05:38.364 Well, that's an easy answer. First of all, I don't inhale cigars. 01:05:38.664 --> 01:05:39.764 That's number one, right? 01:05:40.682 --> 01:05:43.602 Staying running is like a way 01:05:43.602 --> 01:05:46.762 for me to stay engaged in doing 01:05:46.762 --> 01:05:50.522 like the type of shit that i like to do especially coming 01:05:50.522 --> 01:05:54.762 with that military background that kind of gives me that feel thank you man 01:05:54.762 --> 01:06:03.542 thank you so much well i gotta refill right now hey so staying doing things 01:06:03.542 --> 01:06:09.382 like that constantly chasing chasing little different journeys whether it be running a Marathon, 01:06:09.542 --> 01:06:11.442 whether it be running On ultra, 01:06:11.642 --> 01:06:18.142 which right now my son And I are preparing for An ultra coming up in January, which is a 40-miler. 01:06:19.491 --> 01:06:27.391 Type of things like just, it keeps us engaged and keeps us wanting to be just 01:06:27.391 --> 01:06:29.171 doing different things, you know? 01:06:29.331 --> 01:06:33.751 So I want people to know this so they can know that, you know, 01:06:33.831 --> 01:06:37.611 because you smoke cigars, because you sit back, smoke, you know, 01:06:37.691 --> 01:06:39.271 drink whiskey, drink rice, drink, 01:06:39.651 --> 01:06:44.871 you know, beer doesn't mean you have to be, you know, looking out for your health 01:06:44.871 --> 01:06:46.511 and extending your life. 01:06:46.731 --> 01:06:49.891 So I would definitely tell people to do that. 01:06:50.051 --> 01:06:54.091 And then when it comes to the five years, something similar, 01:06:54.311 --> 01:06:59.751 you know, we're constantly talking about traveling and getting out there and doing cool things. 01:06:59.751 --> 01:07:08.491 Right now, the wife and I, we are legit looking into possibly relocating to Spain simply because, 01:07:09.031 --> 01:07:12.551 you know, we lived a couple of years overseas because of the military, 01:07:12.551 --> 01:07:17.991 but now Now we want to try to do it as civilians on the civilian side and say, 01:07:18.111 --> 01:07:20.451 you know what? This fucking can be done. 01:07:20.631 --> 01:07:24.231 You know, and how do you do it? You fucking fit, folks. 01:07:24.951 --> 01:07:28.951 That's how you do it. You got to look into how these things can be done. 01:07:28.951 --> 01:07:29.831 And you're like, you know what? 01:07:30.131 --> 01:07:35.531 A lot of people don't even fathom the thought of sometimes leaving their own town in their lifetime. 01:07:35.791 --> 01:07:38.651 And sometimes you just got to look into things and say, you know what? 01:07:38.851 --> 01:07:44.171 This shit is all possible. So, you know, of course, staying focused on, 01:07:44.231 --> 01:07:48.051 you know, family first, making sure my kids are doing what. 01:07:48.685 --> 01:07:52.565 Have to do in life you know my son's already 26 you 01:07:52.565 --> 01:07:55.285 know almost 27 years old and and and 01:07:55.285 --> 01:07:58.605 you know we just had our first grandson our daughter's 01:07:58.605 --> 01:08:01.525 about to go to college and you know as long as all those 01:08:01.525 --> 01:08:05.005 things are are moving the way they're supposed to be moving then 01:08:05.005 --> 01:08:08.485 my wife and I are going to be making that transition in in 01:08:08.485 --> 01:08:12.165 trying to move over to Spain and 01:08:12.165 --> 01:08:15.945 to just continue to travel and explore and continue 01:08:15.945 --> 01:08:19.125 growing the brand you know right now our brand 01:08:19.125 --> 01:08:21.865 is not only here in the u.s it's not 01:08:21.865 --> 01:08:25.225 only in puerto rico our brand is actually out 01:08:25.225 --> 01:08:30.425 in the balcons with with one of my partners which i met out at the best ranger 01:08:30.425 --> 01:08:36.365 competition which was another dope event that we got to do and i met one of 01:08:36.365 --> 01:08:40.425 my partners out there and and you know he was able to take the the Monte de 01:08:40.425 --> 01:08:43.205 Leon cigars brand over to Kosovo. 01:08:43.405 --> 01:08:48.085 And now the brand is going all through the boundaries, which is something I 01:08:48.085 --> 01:08:50.085 never even imagined happening. 01:08:50.765 --> 01:08:55.765 So yeah, just, you know, continuing to grow the brand, continuing to explore, 01:08:56.005 --> 01:09:02.125 continuing to live life and, and just, you know, do, just do dope shit, man. 01:09:02.305 --> 01:09:06.065 Just get out here, live life and do dope shit, man. 01:09:06.205 --> 01:09:09.445 That's, that's all our future plans is about. 01:09:09.445 --> 01:09:12.385 You know right now you know living life that's awesome 01:09:12.385 --> 01:09:15.265 no we're we're fans of the brand and you guys 01:09:15.265 --> 01:09:19.725 are kicking ass and we're definitely excited for what's to come thank you thank 01:09:19.725 --> 01:09:23.765 you i appreciate you guys i appreciate you guys having me today man this was 01:09:23.765 --> 01:09:29.105 a great setting as you guys saw this shit started in a super bright day now 01:09:29.105 --> 01:09:33.405 it's dark as hell now you probably asked me so how the fuck did you all of a sudden get lighting. 01:09:34.903 --> 01:09:40.603 Thanks to my beautiful wife over there who made that shit happen along with the drinks coming. 01:09:40.823 --> 01:09:43.503 So I'm super grateful for everything. That's awesome. 01:09:44.203 --> 01:09:49.183 So what has been the biggest challenge in launching the brand and growing it? 01:09:50.023 --> 01:09:53.543 You know what? The fitful aspect. Yeah. 01:09:53.803 --> 01:09:57.463 The same thing. You know what I mean? Figuring it the fuck out and willing to 01:09:57.463 --> 01:10:02.823 get through the white waters, right? If you've ever gone out to the waters and 01:10:02.823 --> 01:10:07.623 surfed or anything like that, you'll realize that sometimes you've got to be willing to take. 01:10:08.509 --> 01:10:12.309 Hits through those white waters until you finally get over that shit. 01:10:12.529 --> 01:10:16.889 And you'll realize that things are calm on the other side, but now it becomes 01:10:16.889 --> 01:10:19.049 a journey of trying to fucking ride a wave. 01:10:19.189 --> 01:10:22.809 And so there has, there has been many, you know, 01:10:23.269 --> 01:10:27.509 challenges along the way in this business, but you know, I'm, 01:10:27.509 --> 01:10:31.829 I'm grateful to have, you know, someone like my wife as my partner that just 01:10:31.829 --> 01:10:35.709 been helping me, you know, figure these things out along the way. 01:10:35.929 --> 01:10:42.469 So, but to point at any specific thing, it's, you know, going back to what we 01:10:42.469 --> 01:10:46.049 said in the beginning, you said, what, what is something I would advise people? 01:10:46.209 --> 01:10:50.349 Well, you know what, learn about licenses, permits, and taxes. 01:10:50.689 --> 01:10:53.569 So like, that's the first fucking thing you got to figure out. 01:10:53.709 --> 01:10:57.929 And then, you know, when it comes to figuring out your target audience, 01:10:58.209 --> 01:11:00.849 I think, I think I'm going to be honest with you. 01:11:01.329 --> 01:11:04.869 Target audiences that shit happens organically 01:11:04.869 --> 01:11:07.789 like i don't think there's ever a 01:11:07.789 --> 01:11:11.029 such thing as you actually saying 01:11:11.029 --> 01:11:14.189 oh i'm a target this audience right here i think 01:11:14.189 --> 01:11:16.949 your target audience just happens naturally and you 01:11:16.949 --> 01:11:22.489 just you just have to let it be because when you become too obsessed over focusing 01:11:22.489 --> 01:11:28.729 on your target audience well there's a good chance you might not win and then 01:11:28.729 --> 01:11:34.389 what You're going to fucking give up because you weren't able to sell to your target audience. 01:11:34.689 --> 01:11:39.929 So don't get infatuated with target audiences. Just let that shit happen naturally. 01:11:40.909 --> 01:11:43.109 Yeah. Target audiences with... 01:11:44.349 --> 01:11:51.149 You can do it with whiskey, with the flavored whiskeys and the cinnamon whiskeys, stuff like that. 01:11:51.149 --> 01:11:56.809 But if you're putting out like a, this 10th mountain rye or the bourbon or like 01:11:56.809 --> 01:12:00.889 your cigars, like you might have an idea of who this is going out to, but. 01:12:01.910 --> 01:12:05.110 Same time everyone's palette's different so what i 01:12:05.110 --> 01:12:07.790 like might not be what you like or what paul likes and vice 01:12:07.790 --> 01:12:10.730 versa which we say that but on this on the 01:12:10.730 --> 01:12:13.670 show majority of the time me paul and adam have 01:12:13.670 --> 01:12:16.750 more or less the same profile like 01:12:16.750 --> 01:12:19.730 palette profile yes there's a couple things that 01:12:19.730 --> 01:12:22.930 me and paul like that adam can't and that adam and 01:12:22.930 --> 01:12:26.570 paul like that i don't but for the majority which honestly 01:12:26.570 --> 01:12:30.270 i don't know how that happened like the three of us have more 01:12:30.270 --> 01:12:33.550 or less the same palette which works for 01:12:33.550 --> 01:12:36.390 a show because it's like hey let's let's smoke these charlie mikes which 01:12:36.390 --> 01:12:39.390 is a san andreas wrapper with some nicaraguan fillers 01:12:39.390 --> 01:12:42.190 and whatnot and that's exactly what we really like but 01:12:42.190 --> 01:12:45.010 at the same time it's just like it'd be nice to have 01:12:45.010 --> 01:12:50.210 someone that didn't like nicaraguan tobacco so we can get their side on it but 01:12:50.210 --> 01:12:54.870 it works for us because we smoke fantastic cigars every week for the most part 01:12:54.870 --> 01:13:00.050 so and then same thing with whiskey is you have a target audience And like this 01:13:00.050 --> 01:13:04.490 10th Mountain Rye and then this Starlight Rye are two completely different profiles. 01:13:04.850 --> 01:13:08.810 And the reality when it comes to the target audience, right? 01:13:08.910 --> 01:13:11.890 Like let's go with 10th Mountain whiskey, right? 01:13:12.450 --> 01:13:16.290 What are you going to do? You're going to focus only on folks that served in 10th Mountain. 01:13:16.450 --> 01:13:22.590 Then what happens if out of those folks you deal with, only 10 of them drink whiskey. 01:13:22.850 --> 01:13:29.690 You know what I mean? And so it's a great way to expand because now not only do you have folks. 01:13:31.311 --> 01:13:34.311 Served in the 10th mountain division, but you have folks that are, 01:13:34.491 --> 01:13:40.311 you're able to teach that, Hey, this is, this is one of the divisions in the United States army. 01:13:40.531 --> 01:13:45.551 You know what I mean? So it's, it's, it's a great way. And that's how it happened to me. 01:13:45.871 --> 01:13:48.211 I feel like that's how it happens organically. 01:13:48.551 --> 01:13:53.551 And I feel like that's, you know, that's the best way to go about and not become 01:13:53.551 --> 01:13:57.191 overly obsessed with a target audience. 01:13:58.131 --> 01:14:03.271 Yeah. One of the things I've, I've noticed doing this show is a lot of whether 01:14:03.271 --> 01:14:08.671 it's cigars or beer products or whiskeys the owners are putting out what they like, 01:14:09.451 --> 01:14:13.451 they know someone else is going to be out there and they're going to smoke the 01:14:13.451 --> 01:14:17.351 same cigars you like or use the same oils that you like or drink the same whiskey 01:14:17.351 --> 01:14:20.351 you like they're putting it out for what they like and someone's going to be 01:14:20.351 --> 01:14:26.611 there and find it I think is one of the biggest thing like stop trying to stop trying to find the, 01:14:27.311 --> 01:14:33.231 niche or like the the Stop trying to find the cool in thing Do what you want 01:14:33.231 --> 01:14:40.351 to do And you'll find the people What a perfect thing to say by the way Do the shit you like, 01:14:41.091 --> 01:14:46.731 Dude All our cigars Matter of fact I'm being harassed by the wife Because she 01:14:46.731 --> 01:14:52.151 says that I'm not obeying By Biggie Small's Fucking 10 crack commandments Because 01:14:52.151 --> 01:14:57.371 I continuously get high on my own Fucking supply But I'm like bro I love our 01:14:57.371 --> 01:14:59.531 cigars I don't know what to fucking tell you. 01:14:59.671 --> 01:15:02.671 I love my cigars. And that's the shit. 01:15:02.871 --> 01:15:08.191 You have to love your own fucking... You have to love your own shit. 01:15:08.231 --> 01:15:13.531 And when people see that you love your own shit, they naturally are like, fuck. 01:15:15.234 --> 01:15:19.094 I guess you look like you're really fucking enjoying that thing. 01:15:19.254 --> 01:15:23.614 And I'm like, yeah, I'm not just trying to fucking sell it. I actually love it. You know? 01:15:24.134 --> 01:15:30.154 Yeah, I can't remember what show I was watching on YouTube or which cigar brand they had. 01:15:31.054 --> 01:15:37.274 Yeah, I can't remember anything. But I do remember the cigar brand owner saying 01:15:37.274 --> 01:15:42.214 that when they got their shipment of the tobacco or the cigars in and the boxes 01:15:42.214 --> 01:15:44.894 in, they figured either A, they were going to sell 01:15:45.234 --> 01:15:48.694 a couple thousand boxes of cigars or b they're 01:15:48.694 --> 01:15:51.674 going to smoke through a couple thousand because it's what 01:15:51.674 --> 01:15:55.914 they like and either way they're going to be happy um i wish i remember who 01:15:55.914 --> 01:15:59.194 it was because they were just like yeah one one way or the other these are going 01:15:59.194 --> 01:16:03.494 to get smoked and i'm going to be happy i like that man i'm a fucking used that 01:16:03.494 --> 01:16:08.834 that's a good one i do like that that that is a great concept do you remember 01:16:08.834 --> 01:16:11.254 your uh your first cigar you've ever smoked, 01:16:11.854 --> 01:16:16.734 you know i'm trying to think i don't even want to say a name because it was 01:16:16.734 --> 01:16:20.894 a shitty experience but right but i remember the first experience like what 01:16:20.894 --> 01:16:24.034 the fuck is this bro so it took me. 01:16:24.954 --> 01:16:27.614 And i also didn't know a lot you know i 01:16:27.614 --> 01:16:30.894 mean i did the same thing a lot of people do inhale this 01:16:30.894 --> 01:16:33.714 shit fuck i just feel like i just pulled straight 01:16:33.714 --> 01:16:36.734 from a fucking harley exhaust like what the fuck 01:16:36.734 --> 01:16:39.394 just happened here so you know it was a 01:16:39.394 --> 01:16:43.974 crazy experience but i continuously tried and and then i started finding out 01:16:43.974 --> 01:16:48.014 that there was you know there was levels to this i started to find out there 01:16:48.014 --> 01:16:52.294 was you know the pairings with the drinks and everything like that so i think 01:16:52.294 --> 01:16:57.794 like many people i when i started to figure out what my palate was i might have 01:16:57.794 --> 01:16:59.254 started with like those those. 01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:03.660 And but then after a while that 01:17:03.660 --> 01:17:07.200 i developed my palate it was insane like 01:17:07.200 --> 01:17:10.560 don't even come to me with a fucking super sweet 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:13.260 cigar today oh my god you're like 01:17:13.260 --> 01:17:16.400 nausea will kick in like yeah i can't 01:17:16.400 --> 01:17:19.540 deal with that shit but that's only because that's me and 01:17:19.540 --> 01:17:22.860 that's my palate that doesn't mean i'm knocking it because 01:17:22.860 --> 01:17:25.940 i understand that you have to kind of work your 01:17:25.940 --> 01:17:28.720 way through the process and everything like that 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.820 to understand how your palate is and to develop it 01:17:31.820 --> 01:17:35.100 so but i don't know i i really 01:17:35.100 --> 01:17:37.800 i really don't remember i i can 01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:40.800 tell you the first cigar lounge i ever experienced 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:46.660 i don't know the name of it but it was in in chicago where my army a buddy of 01:17:46.660 --> 01:17:52.100 mine was an army and we went there and then my second cigar lounge experience 01:17:52.100 --> 01:17:59.240 was over in fayville north carolina which was a cigar lounge called Hansteads, and let me tell you, 01:17:59.420 --> 01:18:03.240 they have the cigar lounge. 01:18:03.540 --> 01:18:07.460 What a cigar lounge is supposed to feel like, they haven't figured the fuck 01:18:07.460 --> 01:18:13.960 out because their shit is like, it's a great atmosphere for a cigar lounge. 01:18:14.080 --> 01:18:19.340 You have everything from great drinks, a great selection, good music. 01:18:19.780 --> 01:18:21.880 Live performances, simple, right? 01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:25.600 I'm not talking about like an all-out fucking concert. I'm talking about a guy 01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:30.920 on a fucking trumpet or, I don't know, a fucking ukulele or something. 01:18:31.220 --> 01:18:36.320 But, you know, very fucking simple. And it works. And it's great. 01:18:37.425 --> 01:18:41.185 Also got to be careful with the vibes, right? I'll tell you, I made the mistake. 01:18:41.345 --> 01:18:46.185 When you're feeling so great, when you're in such a great atmosphere and you're 01:18:46.185 --> 01:18:49.565 having great conversations, because that's what a good cigar lounge does. 01:18:49.565 --> 01:18:55.565 It creates great atmosphere and it picks your energy up to a fucking level that 01:18:55.565 --> 01:18:59.385 somebody thinks you just fucking down the fucking eight ball or something like that. 01:18:59.525 --> 01:19:05.865 But when I was at a cigar lounge once, I was having such a great conversation 01:19:05.865 --> 01:19:09.165 with this older gentleman, man. I remember I was like, you know what? 01:19:09.685 --> 01:19:12.405 Don't worry about that drink. I'm going to go get you another. 01:19:12.565 --> 01:19:16.885 And so I went up to the bar and I was like, hey, let me get a drink for my wife and I. 01:19:17.025 --> 01:19:20.585 And that gentleman over there, whatever the fuck he's drinking, give him another one. 01:19:20.825 --> 01:19:25.425 And I should have listened to the bartender because the bartender told me, are you sure? 01:19:26.105 --> 01:19:29.685 And I was like, I don't even know why the fuck you're asking me if I'm sure. 01:19:30.065 --> 01:19:33.245 Absolutely, I'm fucking sure. Give him whatever he's having. 01:19:33.545 --> 01:19:37.425 Only to come to find out that this motherfucker, whatever he was drinking, 01:19:37.445 --> 01:19:40.785 cost $120 for that fucking drink. 01:19:40.925 --> 01:19:45.725 I was like, what the fuck is this dude drinking, bro? Like, what the fuck? 01:19:46.105 --> 01:19:50.405 When I saw that bill, I was like, whoa, I think you made a mistake here. Look at this receipt. 01:19:50.605 --> 01:19:54.165 She's like, no, that was his drink. I'm like, oh, hell no. 01:19:54.365 --> 01:19:59.505 So now I know next time you can be a little more careful with how good the vibe is. 01:20:01.025 --> 01:20:04.225 That was going to be my next question. when you're grabbing, 01:20:04.525 --> 01:20:09.685 whether it's one of your cigars or someone else's and you're sitting on your 01:20:09.685 --> 01:20:12.825 back patio or something, what kind of vibe are you looking for? 01:20:12.945 --> 01:20:15.445 You listen to music, podcasts, just in silence. 01:20:15.765 --> 01:20:19.125 What do you typically hang out with? 01:20:19.585 --> 01:20:25.465 I guess that totally depends on what is going on in my mind. 01:20:27.325 --> 01:20:29.445 Sometimes it'll be a problem. 01:20:30.755 --> 01:20:33.575 Sometimes I'll sit back and just chill and listen to a podcast. 01:20:34.235 --> 01:20:36.315 Sometimes it'll be music, right? 01:20:36.595 --> 01:20:40.595 Sometimes it won't be regular music. Sometimes I might tune in to somebody, 01:20:40.795 --> 01:20:45.975 a DJ that has something going on and he does a whole mix and I'm just wanting 01:20:45.975 --> 01:20:48.815 to vibe out to this old school hip hop. 01:20:48.935 --> 01:20:51.615 And I don't just listen to hip hop. I listen to all kinds of music. 01:20:53.107 --> 01:20:56.187 It just totally depends on what is going. 01:20:56.267 --> 01:21:01.687 And sometimes it's that my buddy is all the way in Vicenza, Italy, 01:21:01.947 --> 01:21:06.487 who he's currently a command star major and he might want to hit me up and, 01:21:06.587 --> 01:21:10.387 you know, whatever we buy about and just talk shit as I sit back, 01:21:10.527 --> 01:21:14.467 smoke cigars as we're communicating through FaceTime or whatever the fuck it 01:21:14.467 --> 01:21:16.207 is on WhatsApp and all that shit. 01:21:16.447 --> 01:21:22.807 And, and so it, it, the vibe really switches every time. And sometimes it might just be my fucking dog. 01:21:23.107 --> 01:21:28.147 Just my buddy Kong, the Belgian Malinois, I just might let him chill and hang 01:21:28.147 --> 01:21:32.507 out around the yard doing whatever the fuck crazy thing he's doing as I just 01:21:32.507 --> 01:21:36.047 sit back and watch him and smoke cigars and occasionally just throw the ball 01:21:36.047 --> 01:21:42.807 and see him lose his fucking mind as he's fucking tearing my foundation apart. Just forget that ball. 01:21:43.247 --> 01:21:46.487 So it switches up every time, though. 01:21:47.347 --> 01:21:52.687 This is going to be a two-part question. What's your favorite cigar in your portfolio? 01:21:53.107 --> 01:21:56.707 And then your favorite cigar that's not a Monte de Leon. 01:21:57.467 --> 01:22:05.607 Oh, wow. So in my portfolio, once again, and I've been asked this question many 01:22:05.607 --> 01:22:09.587 times, especially when we're at events. They're like, what's your favorite cigar? 01:22:09.807 --> 01:22:13.227 And I'm like, it honestly just depends. 01:22:13.587 --> 01:22:18.087 It just depends what is going on. Like to me, in this moment, 01:22:18.367 --> 01:22:23.227 this Charlie Mike was the fucking greatest shit ever because of the vibe we 01:22:23.227 --> 01:22:24.727 have going on with everything. 01:22:24.887 --> 01:22:29.767 But sometimes it might be my box press number four, which comes with a Cameroon 01:22:29.767 --> 01:22:35.347 wrapper because it's a great mild to medium smoke and it just hits every single time. 01:22:37.362 --> 01:22:44.542 Is up. We have Lanceros, which are Connecticut Lanceros. We have even the Sweet Cap. 01:22:44.782 --> 01:22:49.802 I was telling you earlier about the Sweet Cap, which I normally don't fuck with the sweet cigars. 01:22:50.022 --> 01:22:55.382 However, I've learned that our Sweet Cap, our Dolce Dama, is a great cigar to 01:22:55.382 --> 01:22:58.882 have early in the morning. If I'm not getting ready to go for a run, 01:22:59.022 --> 01:23:03.882 I might sit back with that Dolce Dama Like today on a Sunday morning, right? 01:23:04.022 --> 01:23:08.322 I typically don't want today. So I'll have the Dolce Dama with a black coffee 01:23:08.322 --> 01:23:13.922 with no sugar in that coffee because again, it's already a sweet cap. 01:23:14.022 --> 01:23:19.902 So there's no need to add sweet to sweet because it creates a bad, it doesn't balance out. 01:23:21.320 --> 01:23:26.420 So, you know, it changes from time to time when it comes to my lineup. 01:23:26.660 --> 01:23:34.060 I will say that I am pretty infatuated with my cigars. What do I mean by that? 01:23:35.080 --> 01:23:40.220 99% of the time, I am smoking my cigars everywhere I go. 01:23:40.380 --> 01:23:46.620 However, I do have cigar etiquette. So that means if I go to a cigar lounge, 01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:51.800 I don't show up with my cigars and say, ah, fuck your cigars. 01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:53.740 I'm only, that's crazy. 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:58.080 By the way, that's another, hey, I just gave away another fucking free gem like that. 01:23:58.260 --> 01:24:02.500 If you are someone who are starting your own brand and you show up to a cigar 01:24:02.500 --> 01:24:06.300 lounge and you think you could just smoke your cigars because, 01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:08.280 yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to sell my cigars to them. 01:24:08.280 --> 01:24:11.460 So I'm only going to smoke my, no, they're going to fucking be pissed at you 01:24:11.460 --> 01:24:14.440 because you're sitting there eating up their space. 01:24:14.620 --> 01:24:17.240 If we're smoking your cigar, that's pretty selfish. 01:24:17.440 --> 01:24:20.760 So what I tend to do, I tend to do one of two things. 01:24:20.980 --> 01:24:24.920 If they're offering drinks at this bar, at this cigar lounge, 01:24:25.200 --> 01:24:28.540 then obviously I'm buying the drinks to pair with a cigar. 01:24:28.740 --> 01:24:34.500 But most of the time I am purchasing one of the cigars that they have there, 01:24:34.580 --> 01:24:38.780 you know, And I might take it and smoke it as my first cigar in that moment. 01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:43.260 And then I'll switch over to my cigar afterwards. Because like I said in the 01:24:43.260 --> 01:24:46.140 beginning, I'll start off with something like a beer. 01:24:46.340 --> 01:24:49.000 Yeah, this is a Michelada if you weren't here earlier. 01:24:49.320 --> 01:24:55.720 And then I'll switch it up to a Whisk Ride. You know, something like that. And just, you know. 01:24:56.460 --> 01:25:02.520 So that's pretty much how I go about it. But as far as like a brand goes, 01:25:02.740 --> 01:25:09.240 I think one of my favorite brands prior to me having my own brand was My Father's Cigars. 01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:14.580 My Father's Cigars was a go-to cigar for me. And which one specifically? 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.280 I want to say it was The Judge. 01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:22.360 Oof, that's a good one. Yeah, that was one of my go-to cigars in the beginning. 01:25:24.436 --> 01:25:28.716 My father's is a good one. It's a great cigar. Whether it's a my father's branded 01:25:28.716 --> 01:25:33.536 one or one of the Don Pepines or one of the other ones that they put out from 01:25:33.536 --> 01:25:37.236 their factory that's not branded my father's. They're great. 01:25:37.416 --> 01:25:45.076 And that judge is definitely, I would say, top three of my favorites from their lounge. 01:25:45.536 --> 01:25:47.536 That's what I tend to look for. Every time I go to a lounge, 01:25:47.736 --> 01:25:50.816 I immediately go to my father. I'm like, you know what? This is a cigar that 01:25:50.816 --> 01:25:53.156 I would like to smoke. Boom. I smoke it. 01:25:53.576 --> 01:25:56.236 And then I'll switch over to my cigar afterwards. 01:25:56.796 --> 01:25:59.736 And no, I don't fucking take two or three puffs and then smoke my cigar. 01:25:59.836 --> 01:26:03.196 That's crazy too. No, I fucking enjoy the whole cigar. 01:26:03.416 --> 01:26:06.156 I'm telling you people, I'm not like a fucking egomaniac here. 01:26:06.256 --> 01:26:10.716 I know some people, when they own their own brands, they become egomaniacs. Take off the bands. 01:26:10.876 --> 01:26:13.536 I don't want people to know I'm smoking. No, I don't do that. 01:26:13.696 --> 01:26:17.576 I leave the fucking band on. By the way, that shit tends to drive. 01:26:18.256 --> 01:26:23.196 Maybe it's because I know how much time and energy we put into designing these 01:26:23.196 --> 01:26:28.576 bands and make them make them look this fucking great. Beautiful, man. 01:26:28.896 --> 01:26:33.376 So when I see fucking people before they even start smoking, bro. 01:26:34.419 --> 01:26:37.459 Giving away something here. But you know what? This is good. 01:26:37.739 --> 01:26:41.179 When I see people take, before they even fucking light up their cigar, 01:26:41.679 --> 01:26:47.499 they rip off the band and they, I don't even dare to do it because it just fucking drives me crazy. 01:26:47.699 --> 01:26:51.739 But they rip it off, they crunch it up and they throw it out. 01:26:51.859 --> 01:26:57.019 And then they go, I'm like, bro, do you know how fucking hard I worked on that 01:26:57.019 --> 01:26:59.599 fucking band for you to just fucking do that? 01:26:59.939 --> 01:27:04.559 Like that is so crazy to me. But again, that, but that's probably me being a 01:27:04.559 --> 01:27:07.219 little too prideful over that shit. 01:27:08.559 --> 01:27:11.719 I haven't put it up on the wall yet just because I haven't found a great spot, 01:27:11.839 --> 01:27:16.679 but I got a shadow box that has a little hole in the top that I can drop the cigar bands in. 01:27:17.739 --> 01:27:22.679 So all my cigar bands go in there. And the Charlie Mike had a double band. 01:27:22.859 --> 01:27:27.299 It had the one you showed with your logo and everything, and it had the one 01:27:27.299 --> 01:27:28.879 that said Charlie Mike on it. 01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:35.119 If I'm smoking a cigar, I might take that lower band off like. 01:27:36.616 --> 01:27:40.676 You have to you have to because well especially it's only so big so you gotta 01:27:40.676 --> 01:27:45.116 even if it's if it's like this one where it's like a churchill or whatever size 01:27:45.116 --> 01:27:50.436 this is if if they had one here i might take it off but the the band that has 01:27:50.436 --> 01:27:53.516 the the brand and the logo on that's staying on until, 01:27:54.116 --> 01:27:56.896 that burn line gets to about here then i'll take it 01:27:56.896 --> 01:27:59.856 off but i keep all of them whether it's a good cigar or 01:27:59.856 --> 01:28:02.696 not obviously i'll i'll if it's if i 01:28:02.696 --> 01:28:05.996 didn't like the cigar or there was something about the cigar i didn't particularly 01:28:05.996 --> 01:28:08.756 like i'd kind of put that to the side and be like 01:28:08.756 --> 01:28:11.616 hey i didn't like this one but i'm still gonna keep it because 01:28:11.616 --> 01:28:14.576 i think in my 01:28:14.576 --> 01:28:18.696 i don't even know how long i've been smoking but i think there's only been like 01:28:18.696 --> 01:28:23.136 one maybe two cigars that like i got halfway through and i had to put it out 01:28:23.136 --> 01:28:26.576 just because i couldn't stand it like it was i didn't like it at all i still 01:28:26.576 --> 01:28:31.296 kept the band whether you like it or not the bands are awesome like it happened 01:28:31.296 --> 01:28:33.676 to me at the previous event we were just at. 01:28:33.876 --> 01:28:38.336 It was funny. Some gentleman, you know, I guess he purchased a cigar. 01:28:39.196 --> 01:28:42.936 There was a vendor out there and stuff like that. And he grabbed the cigar and 01:28:42.936 --> 01:28:46.596 he walked over to our table. This motherfucker, I think he took like two... 01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:50.980 Up to my table he was like hey man how's this 01:28:50.980 --> 01:28:53.960 cigar right here and i was like oh it's a great cigar he's like cool 01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:56.760 now i want to smoke that 01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:59.800 cigar how the fuck do i get rid of this one because 01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:03.180 it tastes like shit and i said bro just 01:29:03.180 --> 01:29:06.040 put it down just put it down i got it i'll 01:29:06.040 --> 01:29:09.040 i'll take care of it for you but but yeah you're right 01:29:09.040 --> 01:29:12.200 you know i mean and i've seen by the way cool project ideas 01:29:12.200 --> 01:29:15.100 i've seen some people do some cool projects with bands 01:29:15.100 --> 01:29:17.960 i have i have a buddy who's in 01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:21.760 north carolina and he has a lamp and on 01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:27.560 the lampshade he started um gluing or some shit like that yeah on all over the 01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:32.480 lampshade he has all kinds of bands now a real fucking cool project that i idea 01:29:32.480 --> 01:29:37.120 that i seen one dude do that i'm gonna eventually do with my bands is you take 01:29:37.120 --> 01:29:41.380 a table and you put all the bands down and then you epoxy. 01:29:42.639 --> 01:29:48.979 You can see all the bands on top, and then it becomes the design of that table. 01:29:49.379 --> 01:29:54.739 So, you know, cool project I do. Yeah, I got a, I think it's like a serving, 01:29:54.739 --> 01:29:57.899 I don't know what you call it, a little serving platter or whatever. 01:29:57.999 --> 01:30:01.919 It's a round serving platter with the handles. I took the handles off. 01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:06.379 On one side, it had like my last name with the, what do you call that, 01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:10.859 the ambigram or whatever, like your initial with your last name behind it. 01:30:10.859 --> 01:30:14.579 I started putting all the cigar bands one side 01:30:14.579 --> 01:30:17.679 and started up boxing it and it's it's becoming like 01:30:17.679 --> 01:30:20.659 a almost like a an infinity barrel head 01:30:20.659 --> 01:30:23.519 like i'll go through and like it's covered right now 01:30:23.519 --> 01:30:26.859 and then eventually i'll take a handful out of the little shadow 01:30:26.859 --> 01:30:30.039 box i have and then i'll poxy those on top of whatever's on 01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:33.039 there like it's just i eventually want 01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:35.899 a lot of i eventually want it to be like that thick 01:30:35.899 --> 01:30:38.939 of just cigar bands like like i hate 01:30:38.939 --> 01:30:41.979 to cover up someone's cigar band but for the 01:30:41.979 --> 01:30:46.479 most part most of them that are on there i'm gonna either i have another cigar 01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:51.139 or another one from their portfolio or i'll smoke it again so eventually it'll 01:30:51.139 --> 01:30:56.099 make its way back on there but i want to i want the wood to be about what is 01:30:56.099 --> 01:31:00.039 about that thick about an inch thick and And I want another like inch, 01:31:00.279 --> 01:31:03.239 half inch or an inch of cigar bands glued on top of that. 01:31:03.499 --> 01:31:06.859 Just, it's just kind of like a little nice. I know you're not going to be able 01:31:06.859 --> 01:31:09.059 to see what's underneath it, but that's just a thought. 01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:13.139 It's just like, it's a, I've smoked. It's not like you're, what do they call that? 01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:20.539 You know, and graffiti when they tag over somebody's chips, you're all right. It's going to be fine. 01:31:21.619 --> 01:31:25.359 Yeah. That's something going back to the, uh, etiquette. That's something I 01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:27.139 don't think we've really touched much on here. 01:31:27.799 --> 01:31:33.059 Is cigar lounge etiquette, which I know most of us know about, 01:31:33.059 --> 01:31:36.239 but when you go to a lounge, if. 01:31:38.129 --> 01:31:41.369 Flew down here this past summer we went to jc newman we 01:31:41.369 --> 01:31:45.089 did their tour and everything we had bobby newman on the show he 01:31:45.089 --> 01:31:47.909 brought us into the factory we did the tour and everything we bought some a 01:31:47.909 --> 01:31:50.749 bunch of cigars from them and then we went down the street 01:31:50.749 --> 01:31:53.409 to what was it corona cigar bar i think it was which is 01:31:53.409 --> 01:31:56.529 the big cigar yeah and there was 01:31:56.529 --> 01:31:59.669 a cigar me and paul wanted to smoke that we got from jc newman 01:31:59.669 --> 01:32:02.789 i went to all that we 01:32:02.789 --> 01:32:05.489 all bought drinks and i'm pretty sure we 01:32:05.489 --> 01:32:08.469 bought multiple drinks and then i went to the i 01:32:08.469 --> 01:32:11.289 walked around where all like the humidor and picked out a cigar 01:32:11.289 --> 01:32:14.449 or two bought some of them so it's definitely 01:32:14.449 --> 01:32:17.229 one of those things that i don't think we've talked about but something that definitely 01:32:17.229 --> 01:32:20.409 needs to be said yeah cigar cigar 01:32:20.409 --> 01:32:23.689 etiquette 101 when going to a cigar lounge is 01:32:23.689 --> 01:32:26.949 a an important topic like like 01:32:26.949 --> 01:32:29.829 you the amount of people 01:32:29.829 --> 01:32:32.569 that go to purchase a cigar that 01:32:32.569 --> 01:32:35.409 do crazy things you're like what the fuck are 01:32:35.409 --> 01:32:38.389 you thinking like why why are you 01:32:38.389 --> 01:32:43.949 sniffing my fucking cigar the way you are i'm down guy like what are you like 01:32:43.949 --> 01:32:49.889 it's so crazy the amount of crazy things that people yeah they do crazy things 01:32:49.889 --> 01:32:54.229 man they're like oh can i use your cutter give me a second as they fucking lick 01:32:54.229 --> 01:32:56.209 their cigar i'm like hey Yeah, 01:32:56.889 --> 01:33:00.389 you can no longer use our cutter guy like I don't know you're gonna have to 01:33:00.389 --> 01:33:04.409 bite your shit now because there is no way in hell I'm putting your fucking back. 01:33:05.217 --> 01:33:12.777 I don't have enough fucking Lysol for that shit Like that's crazy But it's humans Humans do weird shit. 01:33:13.737 --> 01:33:17.897 They're very fucking strange When it comes to stuff like that I don't know if 01:33:17.897 --> 01:33:21.937 they do it because they want to appear To look like they know what the fuck 01:33:21.937 --> 01:33:27.257 they're doing It's what they see on shows And movies and stuff They immediately 01:33:27.257 --> 01:33:28.997 grab a cigar And they're like, 01:33:29.917 --> 01:33:33.297 You're like bro What did you 01:33:33.297 --> 01:33:36.277 just find out the region and the fucking cigar came from 01:33:36.277 --> 01:33:39.817 like calm down that like what are you trying to fucking like it's 01:33:39.817 --> 01:33:42.557 it's a little too much guy calm down 01:33:42.557 --> 01:33:45.697 shit now yeah it like if i'm 01:33:45.697 --> 01:33:48.397 gonna pick out a cigar from a humidor i'll pick it up and 01:33:48.397 --> 01:33:51.117 i'm not gonna like crush it in my hands but i'll kind 01:33:51.117 --> 01:33:53.977 of like get my fingers and kind of just like feel around 01:33:53.977 --> 01:33:56.597 just to kind of see because yeah yeah that's all you should 01:33:56.597 --> 01:33:59.597 be testing you should be testing but i've seen people like actually like 01:33:59.597 --> 01:34:03.157 crunch it and i'm like super packed 01:34:03.157 --> 01:34:06.117 you're like oh this is like way too fucking packed 01:34:06.117 --> 01:34:09.017 so therefore it's gonna be a hard fucking pull 01:34:09.017 --> 01:34:11.837 and and for the most time all i'm doing is is 01:34:11.837 --> 01:34:15.297 more or less like a roll in my hand because you can kind of feel if it's soft 01:34:15.297 --> 01:34:18.997 or not but these people are like crushing it and i'm like dude you hear crackling 01:34:18.997 --> 01:34:23.497 at what's oh my and then they and then they just put it back and it's like you 01:34:23.497 --> 01:34:29.077 know you are that cigar it's like yeah bro you You just, I don't know, you just like, 01:34:29.217 --> 01:34:33.157 you just, I don't know why you put that many pounds of pressure on the cigar 01:34:33.157 --> 01:34:34.557 guy. Like, it was unnecessary. 01:34:36.443 --> 01:34:39.843 And the other one that gets me is when you, when they snub out, 01:34:40.063 --> 01:34:45.703 like whether you finish a cigar or you get this way, like you smoke about a third of it or whatever. 01:34:45.823 --> 01:34:48.563 You're like, I don't like it. And they snub it out and they just like crush 01:34:48.563 --> 01:34:49.903 it in that, that ashtray. 01:34:50.043 --> 01:34:53.823 And it's just like, now you just fucked up the whole vibe and smell in this, 01:34:54.043 --> 01:34:56.183 this humidor or cigar lounge. 01:34:56.763 --> 01:35:00.563 We were at an event and maybe the guy's going to watch this. 01:35:00.743 --> 01:35:02.203 Hopefully not, but check this out. 01:35:03.283 --> 01:35:07.183 And call him out. Hopefully you will. But listen to what he did. 01:35:07.643 --> 01:35:09.403 So he grabbed one of our cigars. 01:35:09.963 --> 01:35:13.383 And there was a lot of cigar vendors. He grabbed one of our cigars. 01:35:13.723 --> 01:35:16.283 And he started smoking. And then he came back. He was like, oh, 01:35:16.403 --> 01:35:20.523 man, that was a little harsh in the beginning. I don't know if I could smoke 01:35:20.523 --> 01:35:23.283 that, okay? I mean, I don't know what to tell you. 01:35:23.403 --> 01:35:27.983 Okay, grab, I guess, whatever you want. You can grab one from here or you can buy one over there. 01:35:28.383 --> 01:35:33.063 And then my cousin that was with me, I guess my cousin stayed watching him. 01:35:33.063 --> 01:35:37.203 And my cousin was like, look, he's like, I just saw this guy do this three times. 01:35:37.383 --> 01:35:40.623 He went and grabbed a cigar from over there. He took two pulls. 01:35:40.843 --> 01:35:43.723 He was like, oh, and he put the cigar down. Then he went somewhere else, 01:35:43.783 --> 01:35:47.563 grabbed a different cigar, took two pulls. He was like, the fucking guy is not a smoker. 01:35:47.883 --> 01:35:50.503 But he's like, I don't know what the fuck the guy's looking for, 01:35:50.563 --> 01:35:52.903 but he's not a cigar smoker. 01:35:53.083 --> 01:35:57.783 And he's thinking that he's going to get some fucking cotton candy for some reason. 01:35:58.563 --> 01:36:02.123 And maybe that's what he's looking for. But yeah, cigar etiquette, 01:36:02.503 --> 01:36:09.903 doing a video all about cigar etiquette is a must. 01:36:10.743 --> 01:36:16.723 It's just a must because too many people out there, you'd be surprised how many 01:36:16.723 --> 01:36:23.443 people go into lounges and do the amount of crazy things when it comes to getting cigars. 01:36:23.623 --> 01:36:27.363 Oh, here's my favorite one. They show up to your table and they're like this. 01:36:28.317 --> 01:36:31.037 Of these cigars is cuban and i'm 01:36:31.037 --> 01:36:34.217 like here we go i'm like god my 01:36:34.217 --> 01:36:37.157 cigars come from nicaragua so therefore probably all of 01:36:37.157 --> 01:36:40.237 them because most of those fucking people out there are 01:36:40.237 --> 01:36:43.117 cubans that brought their shit from cuba to nicaragua because 01:36:43.117 --> 01:36:46.057 of all the shit they were dealing with but it's 01:36:46.057 --> 01:36:48.677 not a real no i need shit from cuba well then you're in 01:36:48.677 --> 01:36:51.797 the wrong fucking spot bro because no one in america has fucking 01:36:51.797 --> 01:36:54.737 cuban cigars that are legally sold bro 01:36:54.737 --> 01:36:57.697 like that's just a fucking fact and and 01:36:57.697 --> 01:37:00.597 and fun fact even if you go to fucking cuba on 01:37:00.597 --> 01:37:03.277 whatever way you got there you're not 01:37:03.277 --> 01:37:06.177 even guaranteed to be getting like exactly what you're fucking 01:37:06.177 --> 01:37:11.917 looking for now so that whole concept is like ridiculous to me but a hot take 01:37:11.917 --> 01:37:18.177 this is my take and not the take of the podcast but cuban cigars aren't that 01:37:18.177 --> 01:37:25.777 great like there are some good ones but i love my i love more. 01:37:26.557 --> 01:37:29.477 There are some good Cubans out there But for the most part 01:37:29.477 --> 01:37:35.697 I'm looking for A Nicaraguan Whether it's a Maduro or a Habano And I will smoke 01:37:35.697 --> 01:37:40.697 those Every day all day And if they would only realize what we just talked about 01:37:40.697 --> 01:37:44.597 Right I just gave away I just gave away a secret and they don't even know it 01:37:44.597 --> 01:37:48.897 If they would realize That the majority of the old school, 01:37:49.657 --> 01:37:52.917 Manufacturers and everything That were from Cuba because they didn't Want to 01:37:52.917 --> 01:37:56.757 deal with the shit they were dealing with the government ended up moving to 01:37:56.757 --> 01:38:01.717 Nicaragua because the soil was very similar to what they were dealing with in Cuba. 01:38:01.737 --> 01:38:06.317 And they just decided to bring their business over to Nicaragua and make this shit happen. 01:38:06.657 --> 01:38:12.537 So I'm just saying, you're smoking the highest quality of fucking cigars and you don't even know it. 01:38:12.937 --> 01:38:15.437 That's another thing is a lot of the like. 01:38:16.785 --> 01:38:22.785 I get there's NDAs and whatnot, but there's some brands that'll say like this 01:38:22.785 --> 01:38:26.365 Nicaraguan's from Esteli or from here. 01:38:26.605 --> 01:38:29.365 But there are some brands that are just, it's Nicaraguan because we have an 01:38:29.365 --> 01:38:32.385 NDA. We can't say where it's from, which we get. 01:38:32.705 --> 01:38:38.805 But if you actually start looking into it, like there's so many that like seeds 01:38:38.805 --> 01:38:46.405 that'll be like, oh, this is a Nicaraguan from Esteli or from Jalapa that are Cuban seeds. 01:38:46.785 --> 01:38:50.665 They're Cuban seeds, but they're planted in Nicaragua because they don't want 01:38:50.665 --> 01:38:55.565 to, they either moved away from there or their fields over there have been washed 01:38:55.565 --> 01:38:57.445 away and they moved over years. 01:38:57.585 --> 01:39:03.845 And now, whether it's these Monte de Leones or whatever else in Nicaragua that's 01:39:03.845 --> 01:39:08.285 been planting these tobacco seeds for the last 20, 30 years, 01:39:08.485 --> 01:39:10.105 they originated in Cuba. 01:39:10.445 --> 01:39:15.665 Yeah. Their fields have been washed away And they don't want to get into politics 01:39:15.665 --> 01:39:19.105 But their politics over there might have Scared them away We're going to go 01:39:19.105 --> 01:39:23.005 to Nicaragua We're going to go to Honduras Imagine you having, 01:39:23.865 --> 01:39:29.505 This fucking field, this farm That you've owned for generations And all of a 01:39:29.505 --> 01:39:30.705 sudden the government comes in. 01:39:32.161 --> 01:39:35.401 This is our this is our shit well then you're 01:39:35.401 --> 01:39:38.241 gonna be like okay i'm out and i can do 01:39:38.241 --> 01:39:41.461 this somewhere else and i'm gonna take these skills elsewhere along 01:39:41.461 --> 01:39:44.401 with my seeds that's what a lot that's what the majority 01:39:44.401 --> 01:39:47.181 of them did you know there's a lot that say like 01:39:47.181 --> 01:39:50.261 there's a lot that will say like cuban seed 01:39:50.261 --> 01:39:53.201 nicaraguan or something like that and it's just like it's it's 01:39:53.201 --> 01:39:55.921 the same seed just grown somewhere else and and it's the same 01:39:55.921 --> 01:39:58.641 climate i mean yeah it's not like you're talking about 01:39:58.641 --> 01:40:02.501 a different climate right you would have exactly exactly 01:40:02.501 --> 01:40:05.241 exactly it's the same 01:40:05.241 --> 01:40:07.981 in whiskey though you get whiskey noobs that 01:40:07.981 --> 01:40:11.141 are like i'm only drinking kentucky bourbon that's the only place bourbon 01:40:11.141 --> 01:40:15.001 is made is kentucky there's no such thing as bourbon made outside of kentucky 01:40:15.001 --> 01:40:21.341 because the limestone water and all this bullshit and it's just every time you 01:40:21.341 --> 01:40:24.541 hear that it's like all right well nice to meet you conversation over i'm not 01:40:24.541 --> 01:40:29.641 yeah yeah yeah what was it the uh we were on a Zoom tasting with, well, 01:40:29.781 --> 01:40:32.341 I think it was Taconic in New York. Yeah. 01:40:32.998 --> 01:40:35.698 On the same aquifer as or they get it 01:40:35.698 --> 01:40:38.478 out of the same aquifer as kentucky they're using the 01:40:38.478 --> 01:40:41.258 same water except it it's up in 01:40:41.258 --> 01:40:43.898 new york instead of kentucky it's the same water that's the same 01:40:43.898 --> 01:40:47.178 water but also everyone fucking does 01:40:47.178 --> 01:40:49.898 reverse yeah this is all their 01:40:49.898 --> 01:40:52.798 water and runs it through filters and stuff you could make 01:40:52.798 --> 01:40:55.918 out of a puddle water you can make good fucking whiskey 01:40:55.918 --> 01:40:58.578 with all the technology doesn't have to clean up their 01:40:58.578 --> 01:41:01.358 water it's crazy when it's crazy we'll 01:41:01.358 --> 01:41:04.318 get all into those things and become infatuated and 01:41:04.318 --> 01:41:08.658 and that it has to have those names and everything like that you're like hey 01:41:08.658 --> 01:41:13.998 the amount of fucking people that come to me hey i was in uh london i speak 01:41:13.998 --> 01:41:21.738 in cuban and it cost me x crazy amount and i'm like okay like like you know 01:41:21.738 --> 01:41:24.058 and there's i I don't know. 01:41:24.258 --> 01:41:29.558 I wouldn't do it, but, you know, all of it to you. But they get caught up in all that stuff. 01:41:29.698 --> 01:41:34.658 And, you know, as long as I have, listen, as long as I have a great quality 01:41:34.658 --> 01:41:38.098 cigar in front of me and the vibe is right. 01:41:38.258 --> 01:41:41.898 I always tell people the vibe, you can have the, you can, dude. 01:41:42.298 --> 01:41:45.558 You can fucking put a $5,000 cigar in front of me. 01:41:45.678 --> 01:41:50.638 If the vibe is off, that is going to be the shittiest cigar you ever fucking 01:41:50.638 --> 01:41:56.458 smoked in your life. And it's going to be the biggest waste of money because the vibe was off. 01:41:56.638 --> 01:42:05.378 The vibe has to be almost more important than the actual cigar. 01:42:05.378 --> 01:42:10.258 Because if your vibe is off, your cigar is going to taste like shit regardless. 01:42:11.478 --> 01:42:14.998 So you got to make sure that your energy and everything going. 01:42:15.138 --> 01:42:18.698 Dude, I got the illest fucking mess in front of me. It's been on this camera 01:42:18.698 --> 01:42:22.278 the whole fucking time. I have such a mess in front of me, dude. 01:42:22.658 --> 01:42:26.318 Oh my God, dude. My bad. People are going to be like, yo, what the fuck kind of dude? 01:42:26.378 --> 01:42:28.878 I don't want to smoke his cigars. Look at how fucking messy this motherfucker 01:42:28.878 --> 01:42:31.058 is. Look at how fucking messy this guy is. 01:42:32.738 --> 01:42:37.258 Damn, man. Talking, talking about the whole vibe thing is like, 01:42:38.697 --> 01:42:44.657 love sitting down smoking a cigar taking an hour two hours however long the cigar but i have trouble. 01:42:45.417 --> 01:42:48.877 Coming out to my back patio and smoking 01:42:48.877 --> 01:42:51.637 alone like when we're doing this show i will sit 01:42:51.637 --> 01:42:54.637 here for five hours and smoke three four cigars 01:42:54.637 --> 01:42:57.937 if like me and paul do a lot of virtual tastings 01:42:57.937 --> 01:43:00.777 with whiskeys and whatnot i'll sit there for an hour hour 01:43:00.777 --> 01:43:03.717 and a half two hours and smoke a cigar but coming out here 01:43:03.717 --> 01:43:06.417 now if there's football on or if there's a hockey game on or 01:43:06.417 --> 01:43:09.337 baseball that's a little different but coming out 01:43:09.337 --> 01:43:13.197 here just like no sports no tasting or 01:43:13.197 --> 01:43:16.477 nothing i sit here and i'm smoking i'm like the sir tastes good but 01:43:16.477 --> 01:43:19.357 like i want it to end like i'm done smoking it like 01:43:19.357 --> 01:43:22.397 i want to go inside like whatever like 01:43:22.397 --> 01:43:25.857 it's all like and i could 01:43:25.857 --> 01:43:28.697 have the most expensive cigar i could 01:43:28.697 --> 01:43:32.057 have the best tasting cigar i've ever had and if if i'm 01:43:32.057 --> 01:43:34.977 not in the right mood or whatever like there's no game 01:43:34.977 --> 01:43:38.017 on or no music that's hitting right it's just like fuck this 01:43:38.017 --> 01:43:40.897 like hurry up and i'll i'll fucking smoke it real quick put 01:43:40.897 --> 01:43:44.657 it out and go inside so that's 01:43:44.657 --> 01:43:51.057 another like i might smoke two cigars a week like i know there's and there's 01:43:51.057 --> 01:43:54.697 there's a whole thing oh you do a whiskey and cigar podcast you must smoke and 01:43:54.697 --> 01:43:59.557 drink whiskey and cigars all the time like no like i might drink like three 01:43:59.557 --> 01:44:02.957 four times a week depending on how work and everything else is going, 01:44:03.037 --> 01:44:05.417 and I might smoke one, maybe two cigars a week. 01:44:05.757 --> 01:44:10.517 Like, I'd want to drink and smoke more, but no. 01:44:10.757 --> 01:44:15.717 Like, I don't either, I don't have the time or the vibe's not right, and it's just, they're. 01:44:17.056 --> 01:44:20.336 Been times where i'd be out here and smoking a 01:44:20.336 --> 01:44:22.996 cigar got halfway through it and just put it out and it's one of 01:44:22.996 --> 01:44:25.756 my favorite cigars yeah put it out because it's just 01:44:25.756 --> 01:44:29.036 like nope like i'm done like i just want to just go 01:44:29.036 --> 01:44:32.616 inside watch a movie or something like that then so and 01:44:32.616 --> 01:44:36.236 another thing is going back to the whole it's 01:44:36.236 --> 01:44:39.496 you were talking about the price of the guy 01:44:39.496 --> 01:44:42.476 in london smoking the most expensive cigar you could have the most expensive 01:44:42.476 --> 01:44:45.636 cigar in the world but if you whether the humidor or 01:44:45.636 --> 01:44:48.356 your humidor isn't the right way or you've left it 01:44:48.356 --> 01:44:51.096 out a little bit long because i've had cigars and i know paul's had 01:44:51.096 --> 01:44:53.896 cigars where it won't stay lit or it starts 01:44:53.896 --> 01:45:00.476 unraveling on you and it pisses me off like if the cigar like if the scar won't 01:45:00.476 --> 01:45:03.756 stay lit that's one thing like all right i'll light it more and more and it's 01:45:03.756 --> 01:45:06.916 just like all right fuck this but if it starts unraveling on me that's just 01:45:06.916 --> 01:45:10.516 like like i know this cigar is good i smoked it last week and it It was the 01:45:10.516 --> 01:45:12.696 best cigar ever, but for some reason, 01:45:12.956 --> 01:45:16.136 whether my humidor was fucked up or I left it outside for too long, 01:45:16.356 --> 01:45:19.256 it just starts unraveling. It's like, fuck this. I'm done. 01:45:19.796 --> 01:45:24.096 This was a waste of 20 bucks. I try to make it a thing now. 01:45:24.856 --> 01:45:31.616 When I know I have an event coming up, maybe two or three weeks prior to that 01:45:31.616 --> 01:45:37.136 event, I will move cigars from my humidor over to my dry box. 01:45:37.136 --> 01:45:40.216 And I'll let them sit in those humidors to 01:45:40.216 --> 01:45:43.396 let them kind of dry out a little bit in order to create 01:45:43.396 --> 01:45:46.336 a cigar that you're able to spark up 01:45:46.336 --> 01:45:49.696 a little faster versus being a cigar that's 01:45:49.696 --> 01:45:54.696 you know a little too on the moist side or anything like that so that's that's 01:45:54.696 --> 01:45:59.076 become the process here I just gave away another fucking dude I was gonna say 01:45:59.076 --> 01:46:02.736 I should be charging these fucking people I was gonna say that that's something 01:46:02.736 --> 01:46:07.436 that me and you like we're in Florida it's humid 90% of time. 01:46:07.876 --> 01:46:11.916 Granted, right this time of year it's not, but there's times where I'll pull 01:46:11.916 --> 01:46:16.856 it out of my humidor and I know my humidor is set at, well, I have it inside 01:46:16.856 --> 01:46:18.336 and I typically have like. 01:46:19.397 --> 01:46:22.657 Have like the wooden humidors whatever i got like the plastic fake 01:46:22.657 --> 01:46:25.937 pelican cases from yeah which work fantastic and 01:46:25.937 --> 01:46:28.777 they're easy to store but i'll pull 01:46:28.777 --> 01:46:32.137 it out and i'll come outside and it's 95 degrees 01:46:32.137 --> 01:46:34.957 at 100 humidity and the thing doesn't want to fucking work 01:46:34.957 --> 01:46:37.697 with me yeah and i'm sure you've had the same 01:46:37.697 --> 01:46:40.817 issue i've had i've had all kinds 01:46:40.817 --> 01:46:43.957 of things happen you know if it's fucking raining outside 01:46:43.957 --> 01:46:48.857 if i'm at an event where it's fucking windy that creates a fucking headache 01:46:48.857 --> 01:46:53.377 so it's almost like everything has to be just right where there can't be too 01:46:53.377 --> 01:46:58.097 much wind too much rain too much humidity and you just gotta fucking hope for 01:46:58.097 --> 01:47:01.817 the best when it comes to that stuff yeah it's definitely, 01:47:03.297 --> 01:47:14.017 what's that note during the summer season is that me I think so is it me too it's probably you, 01:47:16.337 --> 01:47:23.337 hold on I'm here. You're lagging. My phone said I'm at 5% right now, sir. 01:47:26.588 --> 01:47:29.808 Yeah he was lagging a little bit i think it might have been his connection yeah 01:47:29.808 --> 01:47:32.608 and he said he was at five percent i don't 01:47:32.608 --> 01:47:36.148 know we'll give it a a minute or two see if he pops back on but 01:47:36.148 --> 01:47:40.028 yeah during the rainy season there's times where i'll be out here and it's it's 01:47:40.028 --> 01:47:44.208 hot as hell during the summer with it raining i got my little fan over here 01:47:44.208 --> 01:47:48.288 and it it's blowing on me and i'm trying to keep it away from the mic so you 01:47:48.288 --> 01:47:55.748 don't pick it up but it blows out the the embers or it's raining and the cigar's too humidified, 01:47:55.808 --> 01:47:57.708 whatever, and it's just a great cigar. 01:47:59.928 --> 01:48:06.068 For me, it's more about the vibe and the experience of the cigar versus the 01:48:06.068 --> 01:48:14.588 actual cigar itself because I've had the factory smokes or the throwouts that are, what, 01:48:14.888 --> 01:48:17.828 five bucks a cigar, three bucks a cigar? Not even, yeah. 01:48:18.028 --> 01:48:21.328 If that, that tastes better than some of these, 01:48:21.908 --> 01:48:24.948 15 20 cigars just because of the experience 01:48:24.948 --> 01:48:27.608 so you know i agree let's not like you 01:48:27.608 --> 01:48:30.628 were saying earlier it's not often that maybe a handful 01:48:30.628 --> 01:48:34.128 of times that i've had a cigar that i just did not like where i just had like 01:48:34.128 --> 01:48:41.648 i it's usually the the experience and and the cigar itself whether it wasn't 01:48:41.648 --> 01:48:46.428 kept properly or it wasn't you know just construction was messed up or or something 01:48:46.428 --> 01:48:50.308 like if I have to light it every single time burn line goes, 01:48:50.868 --> 01:48:53.668 crazy canoe and it's just every time I'm touching 01:48:53.668 --> 01:48:56.488 things up and it becomes a chore and then 01:48:56.488 --> 01:48:59.988 you're unraveling and falling apart in your mouth and just like those are the 01:48:59.988 --> 01:49:04.088 ones that I'll just be like yep this was moving on to the next one I'm not gonna 01:49:04.088 --> 01:49:08.508 this this isn't gonna ruin my night I'm going to go grab another one and just 01:49:08.508 --> 01:49:14.088 chop this up to a bad egg and we'll move forward but yeah it's you know. 01:49:15.598 --> 01:49:18.698 Rare that i'll get cigar that's so unpleasant 01:49:18.698 --> 01:49:21.618 to smoke that i'll put it out it's usually 01:49:21.618 --> 01:49:24.898 the construction of the conditions and that almost 01:49:24.898 --> 01:49:27.918 pisses you off more because you know it's probably should have 01:49:27.918 --> 01:49:32.258 been a really good cigar but you just you know either you fucked it up or it 01:49:32.258 --> 01:49:37.578 was fucked up before you bought it yeah you know yeah like the cigar left the 01:49:37.578 --> 01:49:41.058 fucking dumb ass next to you crunched in his fingers and i was the idiot who 01:49:41.058 --> 01:49:44.238 came behind him the next day and bought it and didn't realize it was all cracked 01:49:44.238 --> 01:49:45.758 up on the inside and everything else. 01:49:46.458 --> 01:49:50.618 That being said, when I go to a humidor, I'll typically try to grab one that's 01:49:50.618 --> 01:49:53.578 buried a little bit just so I know it hasn't been finger fucked. 01:49:53.758 --> 01:49:59.578 I'll go to the box behind the box and dig one out of there on the same fucking 01:49:59.578 --> 01:50:03.878 way because ever since I saw that guy going right down the line, 01:50:03.978 --> 01:50:05.918 it was a fucking total swine and he was just rolling. 01:50:07.118 --> 01:50:11.478 Now I'm like, what are you doing, man? You just ruined $100 worth of cigars at least. 01:50:11.478 --> 01:50:16.398 And some idiot's going to come behind you not idiot but some unsuspecting person's 01:50:16.398 --> 01:50:20.398 going to come behind you and just grab it and not do those stupid things and 01:50:20.398 --> 01:50:25.278 think they're getting a good cigar and they just wasted 12 or 20 bucks so yeah, 01:50:26.184 --> 01:50:31.584 and said, I have switched over to his Barber Pole cigar. 01:50:32.264 --> 01:50:37.504 And it's a dual wrapper of a Connecticut and a Habano, which is real nice because 01:50:37.504 --> 01:50:41.544 that Charlie Mike was a heavier double Maduro. 01:50:41.724 --> 01:50:47.824 It was more of like a medium plus, but it still had that heaviness to it. 01:50:47.904 --> 01:50:48.884 This is a nice lighter one. 01:50:49.064 --> 01:50:51.604 Nice way to finish out the show. 01:50:52.124 --> 01:50:56.024 A little bit like creaminess and a little bit of nuttiness, Kind of like what 01:50:56.024 --> 01:51:00.244 you would think from a Connecticut or a Habano mix. But yeah, it's real good. 01:51:00.924 --> 01:51:05.044 Going great with his 10th Mountain of Whiskey or the Rye. Oh, 01:51:05.244 --> 01:51:06.564 I think he's coming back on. 01:51:07.264 --> 01:51:09.004 Ew. There he is. 01:51:10.004 --> 01:51:13.424 I know what happened. My fucking phone went dead. 01:51:14.744 --> 01:51:19.044 I was like, how did that happen? It was at 100% when we started. 01:51:19.864 --> 01:51:23.664 Shit happens. But I guess my phone's not, they're like, my phone's like, 01:51:23.664 --> 01:51:26.324 the fuck? I'm not used to you doing so much. 01:51:27.444 --> 01:51:30.384 Alright, where were we? I don't even know where we leap off on. 01:51:30.584 --> 01:51:34.804 I don't remember, but I was just talking about the second cigar I got into. 01:51:35.024 --> 01:51:36.244 Your little barber pole. 01:51:37.104 --> 01:51:41.364 Oh, nice. So definitely a little bit lighter than the Charlie Mike, 01:51:41.464 --> 01:51:43.024 but it's a nice way to finish out. 01:51:43.424 --> 01:51:46.264 That Charlie Mike, like I was saying before you jump back on, 01:51:46.444 --> 01:51:52.524 it's like a medium, medium plus cigar, but it definitely has like a full body 01:51:52.524 --> 01:51:54.784 cigar. Well, full flavor with. 01:51:56.108 --> 01:51:59.568 Little bit of a milder body this one's 01:51:59.568 --> 01:52:03.328 a nice kind of clean cleanse the palate it's creaminess a 01:52:03.328 --> 01:52:06.188 little bit creamy a little bit nuttiness not too much spice to 01:52:06.188 --> 01:52:08.908 it there's a little bit but not too much yeah it's still 01:52:08.908 --> 01:52:11.808 going great with this 10th mountain rye right that way 01:52:11.808 --> 01:52:14.868 too from to go from charlie mike to that definitely goes 01:52:14.868 --> 01:52:17.568 into it even though it's a mild 01:52:17.568 --> 01:52:21.348 to medium it definitely is a great transition which 01:52:21.348 --> 01:52:24.628 almost makes you feel like you're on very mild mode yeah 01:52:24.628 --> 01:52:28.068 so that was one thing that so one of 01:52:28.068 --> 01:52:33.828 my my best man at my wedding he would to tie it in with veteran he he was a 01:52:33.828 --> 01:52:38.748 he was in the marines for i think 12 years eight years something like he was 01:52:38.748 --> 01:52:43.708 in for a while he's fucked up in the head that's why i love him we used to go 01:52:43.708 --> 01:52:45.828 to you would know island girl 01:52:46.268 --> 01:52:50.688 off oh yeah gate parkway here in jacksonville we used to go every i think it 01:52:50.688 --> 01:52:53.288 was tuesday or Wednesday, they would have, 01:52:53.828 --> 01:52:56.588 trivia night, and then after trivia they would have live music. 01:52:56.748 --> 01:53:00.228 So we would sit there for four or five hours. Nice. 01:53:01.808 --> 01:53:05.008 The first few times, it was like I picked up a cigar, and it would last me a 01:53:05.008 --> 01:53:07.168 couple hours, and I would sit around and have a couple drinks afterwards. 01:53:07.868 --> 01:53:09.328 But the more we went, I was like, 01:53:10.593 --> 01:53:13.453 feel like I need to have a cigar in my hand, like one of those things. 01:53:14.233 --> 01:53:19.213 So like I've said in the past, and I've said on this show, I like a Nicaraguan Maduro or Herbano. 01:53:19.713 --> 01:53:25.113 So my dumb ass would start out with heavier Maduro cigar. 01:53:25.733 --> 01:53:29.573 And then when I finished that one, I'd go back into the humidor and pick another 01:53:29.573 --> 01:53:33.433 Maduro cigar and just completely blow out my palate. 01:53:35.093 --> 01:53:40.293 And then over some time, I've found out that I'm not the biggest 01:53:40.593 --> 01:53:43.393 Connecticut fan like they don't there's a few out 01:53:43.393 --> 01:53:46.793 there that that I love but for the most part they don't they're just 01:53:46.793 --> 01:53:49.513 too light or they're not enough flavor but I found out that 01:53:49.513 --> 01:53:52.373 if I smoke heavier whether it's a Maduro or even some 01:53:52.373 --> 01:53:55.873 heavier Habanos and then go to a Connecticut 01:53:55.873 --> 01:53:59.093 like there's something with that chemical 01:53:59.093 --> 01:54:02.453 balance that enhances some of these flavors in 01:54:02.453 --> 01:54:05.733 the in the Connecticut whether it's the flavor still hanging around 01:54:05.733 --> 01:54:08.553 as well because you're still coming off 01:54:08.553 --> 01:54:11.413 the spices and everything and it it they work 01:54:11.413 --> 01:54:14.153 perfect so that's that's something that i'll try 01:54:14.153 --> 01:54:16.813 to do is if i have a heavier cigar and i still have 01:54:16.813 --> 01:54:19.993 some time i'll pull out a little bit of a lighter whether it's a connecticut 01:54:19.993 --> 01:54:24.673 or something like this that's a little bit of a blend and it kind of i get a 01:54:24.673 --> 01:54:28.973 little bit of of the flavors from the old cigars and able to match it up with 01:54:28.973 --> 01:54:33.273 this cigar and it there's something in there that just it's i don't know it's 01:54:33.273 --> 01:54:36.373 magical it just kind of blends everything together and, 01:54:37.465 --> 01:54:39.765 cigars that I typically wouldn't smoke because I don't like them. 01:54:40.005 --> 01:54:41.885 Well, not that I don't like them. They don't fit my palate. 01:54:42.465 --> 01:54:46.705 Ends up fitting my palate because of whatever's happening inside the mouth hole. 01:54:47.305 --> 01:54:50.285 That being said, this is a fantastic cigar. 01:54:51.325 --> 01:54:53.225 Thank you. Like I said, I've had 01:54:53.225 --> 01:54:57.845 this one. I want to say that event in Boogerville was what, 2019? Yeah. 01:54:59.025 --> 01:55:04.965 18, 19, somewhere in there? It would have been 19. At least 19 because you said you started. 01:55:05.205 --> 01:55:10.225 So it was either 19 or right before COVID shut everything down. Yeah. 01:55:10.585 --> 01:55:14.925 But so I've had this since then. And it, that line, that burn line, 01:55:15.005 --> 01:55:17.485 it's a little wonky, but like I said, I'm outside in Florida, 01:55:17.485 --> 01:55:20.185 but it's spot on. I haven't relit it once. 01:55:20.685 --> 01:55:23.525 Wow. So it's, it's going real well. 01:55:23.665 --> 01:55:26.985 And like I said, it went real well with this 10th mountain whiskey or rye. 01:55:27.105 --> 01:55:29.765 I had a little bit of the starlight rye, double oak. 01:55:30.185 --> 01:55:33.885 Wow. So five, six years since you've had that cigar sitting there. 01:55:34.025 --> 01:55:37.205 Nice. And it's still smoking. Great, great burn line and everything. 01:55:37.465 --> 01:55:43.585 So glad to hear that yeah great flavors but yeah paul we'll have to get with adam, 01:55:44.205 --> 01:55:47.065 and one of these next few episodes or eventually that 01:55:47.065 --> 01:55:50.185 we don't have a guest or something we'll have to do a a cigar 01:55:50.185 --> 01:55:54.925 lounge etiquette episode or something like that yeah you just kind of take it 01:55:54.925 --> 01:55:58.745 for granted and think that people know and until you go to an actual lounge 01:55:58.745 --> 01:56:03.525 and people are just crunching shit around snubbing cigars out feeling stupid 01:56:03.525 --> 01:56:07.285 shit and yeah that that's i I don't know. 01:56:08.442 --> 01:56:13.582 Trying to remember my first cigar lounge it was in tampa or at least like the clearwater area, 01:56:14.182 --> 01:56:19.422 and that was probably what got me smoking more cigars is it doesn't matter if you're smoking a, 01:56:19.962 --> 01:56:23.122 two five dollar cheap cigar or a hundred 01:56:23.122 --> 01:56:26.082 dollar 150 cigar you're in the same lounge smoking together 01:56:26.082 --> 01:56:28.822 be talking and it's just gonna be like this 01:56:28.822 --> 01:56:31.562 what what are you getting off that cigar or or why do you like 01:56:31.562 --> 01:56:34.282 that cigar i like it because it tastes like this or it's going 01:56:34.282 --> 01:56:37.322 well with this whiskey or with this rum or whatever else 01:56:37.322 --> 01:56:40.582 and yeah that's basically what 01:56:40.582 --> 01:56:43.542 i like with this old cigar lounge yeah and 01:56:43.542 --> 01:56:49.222 you can always tell also like you know who is there for the cigar lounge experience 01:56:49.222 --> 01:56:56.742 and who's there to take selfies and and and want to make posts like that's yeah 01:56:56.742 --> 01:57:00.802 like all right this guy can have conversations with because he's only here because 01:57:00.802 --> 01:57:02.262 he wants to become I'm an influencer. 01:57:02.622 --> 01:57:09.322 So it's very tricky. But at the end of the day, yeah, if you ask cigar etiquette, 01:57:09.582 --> 01:57:15.302 cigar one-on-one etiquette for cigar lounges is definitely a great topic to have. 01:57:15.682 --> 01:57:21.442 You know, it helps folks understand some of the things that they might not even 01:57:21.442 --> 01:57:24.822 understand that people are looking at or people are like, dude, 01:57:25.022 --> 01:57:26.722 like, why the fuck are you doing that? 01:57:26.902 --> 01:57:31.662 Like, that makes no sense. And I'm sure I I've done some of this stupid shit. 01:57:32.022 --> 01:57:35.962 Oh, I guarantee you I have. I've done plenty of it. 01:57:36.142 --> 01:57:40.242 Like, that's probably why I know about it so well, because I know I know in 01:57:40.242 --> 01:57:41.502 the beginning I did play. 01:57:41.622 --> 01:57:44.482 Now, I don't I tend to not even in the beginning. 01:57:44.702 --> 01:57:48.122 I went when I don't know something, I tend to not do anything. 01:57:48.262 --> 01:57:53.462 I'll just sit back and be like, I'll more observe what everyone is doing and 01:57:53.462 --> 01:57:55.122 be like, all right, that makes sense. 01:57:55.522 --> 01:57:59.842 That doesn't make sense. I can't do that. And that's how I study things. 01:58:00.022 --> 01:58:04.602 But to just go in and just start doing my own thing, it's like, 01:58:04.762 --> 01:58:06.882 nah, calm that shit down. 01:58:07.947 --> 01:58:10.727 That that's how i was when i first started getting into the whiskey and 01:58:10.727 --> 01:58:13.327 cigar game world whatever you want to 01:58:13.327 --> 01:58:16.127 call it was i would kind of sit back and watch other 01:58:16.127 --> 01:58:19.087 people and try to learn and then after some time it's 01:58:19.087 --> 01:58:21.987 just like hey why are you doing that 01:58:21.987 --> 01:58:24.847 like i started asking questions and trying to figure out like why they're 01:58:24.847 --> 01:58:27.727 doing this versus that or or why they picked that 01:58:27.727 --> 01:58:30.427 whiskey over this whiskey or whatever and like guys who 01:58:30.427 --> 01:58:33.607 like to light up cigars like it's a fucking new port you're like 01:58:33.607 --> 01:58:36.707 guy heat up your cigar first bro like why 01:58:36.707 --> 01:58:39.487 why do you why did you 01:58:39.487 --> 01:58:42.367 just throw that cigar in your mouth and start lighting it like 01:58:42.367 --> 01:58:45.227 calm down dude it's not a fucking new port it's 01:58:45.227 --> 01:58:48.227 not a black and mouth guy like relax you know 01:58:48.227 --> 01:58:55.247 fucking i'm telling you man the amount of fucking crazy stuff you see who people 01:58:55.247 --> 01:59:00.167 do and of course you know you try to help them out you know but But you also 01:59:00.167 --> 01:59:06.747 deal with some folks who they want up here to know what the fuck they're doing. 01:59:06.867 --> 01:59:10.167 So they're like, hey, this is the way I always do it. 01:59:10.727 --> 01:59:15.687 But your cigar is lighting up with a fucking canoe right now because of how 01:59:15.687 --> 01:59:18.447 you just lit that shit up. You got a flame on the air. 01:59:19.147 --> 01:59:22.507 Look at the way the cigar is burning. Well, yeah, motherfucker. 01:59:22.767 --> 01:59:26.967 Like you just sat here, threw it in your mouth and lit it all on one section. 01:59:26.967 --> 01:59:30.647 No shit. It's going to burn only in that section, guy. 01:59:30.807 --> 01:59:34.587 What do you think? It's just going to naturally start falling into place because 01:59:34.587 --> 01:59:38.407 it just, man, you know, you have to fucking kind of do your part, too. 01:59:38.887 --> 01:59:43.967 You know, it's a balance, guy. You got to work with the cigar. 01:59:44.147 --> 01:59:48.507 You got to, you know, you got to care for it as well. You can't just expect 01:59:48.507 --> 01:59:49.907 it to do everything for you. 01:59:51.554 --> 01:59:55.614 It's not a race enjoy it relax enjoy 01:59:55.614 --> 01:59:58.794 that race that's what cigars and at 01:59:58.794 --> 02:00:01.874 least for me cigars and whiskey are about just sitting back and enjoying it 02:00:01.874 --> 02:00:04.754 and whether it's with you guys 02:00:04.754 --> 02:00:07.654 on this podcast or me sitting inside the house with the with 02:00:07.654 --> 02:00:11.174 a poor me sitting out here with the cigar it's just it's my 02:00:11.174 --> 02:00:14.154 time to sit back and just kind of disconnect with 02:00:14.154 --> 02:00:17.074 the the outside world and and have me 02:00:17.074 --> 02:00:20.354 time yes absolutely for 02:00:20.354 --> 02:00:24.054 me i love talking about whiskey i love talking about cigars and 02:00:24.054 --> 02:00:27.174 a few people that want to listen i love 02:00:27.174 --> 02:00:31.314 talking about beard products and different oils and whatnot but so 02:00:31.314 --> 02:00:34.294 and writing too how like you know 02:00:34.294 --> 02:00:37.154 this is a a a thing that not many 02:00:37.154 --> 02:00:39.794 people do anymore but i'm gonna 02:00:39.794 --> 02:00:42.674 tell you what another good thing to do while smoking a 02:00:42.674 --> 02:00:46.114 cigar is writing you know whether whether 02:00:46.114 --> 02:00:49.154 it be writing because you're planning out the week and 02:00:49.154 --> 02:00:51.774 you're just wanting to write out because sometimes i do that when i 02:00:51.774 --> 02:00:54.614 wake up in the mornings i like to drink coffee smoke a 02:00:54.614 --> 02:00:57.474 cigar and i'll start writing out my task for that 02:00:57.474 --> 02:01:02.334 day or the week and i'll start i'll just enjoy my time doing that and but i 02:01:02.334 --> 02:01:06.914 have a buddy who will sit there because he works on films and he starts to work 02:01:06.914 --> 02:01:11.974 on his writing scripts for film and he'll sit back and smoke a cigar so there's 02:01:11.974 --> 02:01:16.754 so many different things you can do while enjoying a cigar, you know? 02:01:16.814 --> 02:01:21.774 So it's just, you know, just understanding what, what that process. 02:01:22.936 --> 02:01:27.976 Is because if you're in some way, shape or form feeling productive, right? 02:01:28.196 --> 02:01:34.116 If you're reading a book, you're productive. If you're listening to a podcast that is, you know, 02:01:34.736 --> 02:01:38.896 productive or entertaining you, you know, and it's working for your endorphins 02:01:38.896 --> 02:01:43.696 and everything like that, it's still a productive thing that you have going on, you know? 02:01:44.096 --> 02:01:51.356 So it's just like a combination of, you know, smoking a cigar and somehow feeling 02:01:51.356 --> 02:01:54.916 like you're creating that. That's the better word for it. 02:01:55.016 --> 02:01:58.716 Like you're, you're, you're somehow channeling your creative, 02:01:59.296 --> 02:02:01.456 you know, the, the, the creative mindset. 02:02:01.876 --> 02:02:04.996 So I, I, I, that's what I do a lot. 02:02:05.196 --> 02:02:10.336 I like to get into my creative mode because I tend to look at cigars at, 02:02:10.416 --> 02:02:14.496 that's what I look at cigars as art cigars to me are art. 02:02:15.076 --> 02:02:18.216 And and it what better pairing 02:02:18.216 --> 02:02:21.136 is there than for cigars to help you 02:02:21.136 --> 02:02:24.356 somehow become you know creative in 02:02:24.356 --> 02:02:27.176 some sort of way shape or form you know 02:02:27.176 --> 02:02:30.016 whether it's fucking building a dog house for your dog and 02:02:30.016 --> 02:02:32.676 like you know what i want to look into building this blah blah blah and you 02:02:32.676 --> 02:02:36.276 start doing all your homework right there while enjoying your cigar and you 02:02:36.276 --> 02:02:39.916 start coming up with your plans and then you plan prepare and execute those 02:02:39.916 --> 02:02:45.476 things so yeah there's there's a million different things you can do while smoking 02:02:45.476 --> 02:02:51.716 a cigar that is not necessarily wasting your time. It's more of an ROI. 02:02:52.036 --> 02:02:57.296 It's a return on investment. You're getting something out of that moment. 02:02:57.616 --> 02:03:03.436 And sometimes, whether you're by yourself or you're in conversations with other 02:03:03.436 --> 02:03:05.916 people, that is a return on investment. 02:03:06.056 --> 02:03:08.276 That is a return on investment because of good energy. 02:03:10.414 --> 02:03:15.574 Going with that whole thing, a lot of times, like when I'm sitting inside, 02:03:15.754 --> 02:03:19.834 whether it's in the little man cave bar room, my office, whatever you want to 02:03:19.834 --> 02:03:22.654 call it, or on the couch in the living room watching a movie, 02:03:22.954 --> 02:03:24.394 if I have a pour, a lot of times. 02:03:24.834 --> 02:03:28.174 There's a couple of times that I'll just pull the wild turkey 101 off the shelf 02:03:28.174 --> 02:03:30.614 or the makers off the shelf and I just want to drink and whatever. 02:03:30.614 --> 02:03:33.354 But i'd say a majority of the time i'm sitting 02:03:33.354 --> 02:03:36.734 there and i'm i'm with one glass for i 02:03:36.734 --> 02:03:39.614 don't know half hour 45 minutes i'm sitting there smelling it 02:03:39.614 --> 02:03:42.614 tasting it basically and and 02:03:42.614 --> 02:03:45.654 i got a spreadsheet on my computer or google 02:03:45.654 --> 02:03:48.514 doc whatever you want to call it and i'm writing my notes of 02:03:48.514 --> 02:03:51.354 what i'm getting and whatnot and it's just a way to kind 02:03:51.354 --> 02:03:54.614 of like i said earlier disconnect from the world and whatever 90 02:03:54.614 --> 02:03:57.374 of the time she's watching a movie in there or we're 02:03:57.374 --> 02:04:01.534 watching a tv show i have no idea what the fuck's going on yeah like 02:04:01.534 --> 02:04:04.554 i'll look up every once in a while i'll be like oh this is cool show maybe 02:04:04.554 --> 02:04:07.734 i'll maybe i should probably get back into this later but 02:04:07.734 --> 02:04:10.674 i'll get back down i'll drink the whiskey smelling it and 02:04:10.674 --> 02:04:15.234 then next thing i know i'm doing a deep dive of how this this distillery got 02:04:15.234 --> 02:04:20.854 started or how this master distillery master distillery got started with distilling 02:04:20.854 --> 02:04:25.554 or this and that and it's just like that like that's my creative side like dude 02:04:25.554 --> 02:04:30.094 i I don't post it on Instagram or Facebook that I do sometimes, but not that often. 02:04:30.274 --> 02:04:34.354 But I have a whole Google sheet, spreadsheet, whatever you want to call it of 02:04:34.354 --> 02:04:39.334 all my, like, not all of my bottles that I have, but a lot of the bottles I 02:04:39.334 --> 02:04:43.454 have with reviews and I got like a little rating system that I'm doing and just 02:04:43.454 --> 02:04:44.974 kind of see what I like and don't like. 02:04:45.094 --> 02:04:49.554 And it's just, it's been going on for shit years, probably since COVID. 02:04:49.774 --> 02:04:51.974 Dude, I have a fun, I have a fun fact. 02:04:53.661 --> 02:04:58.401 We're going into marital advice. Check this out. If I've been married for 26 02:04:58.401 --> 02:05:04.641 years and I'm telling you right now, when they see you sitting down doing those type of things, 02:05:05.141 --> 02:05:10.781 like taking out a spreadsheet, taking notes and stuff like that, they love that shit. 02:05:11.241 --> 02:05:14.201 They love that shit. They love what they listen. 02:05:14.381 --> 02:05:17.961 They might be over there in their own world watching fucking, 02:05:18.201 --> 02:05:22.741 I don't know, 90 day fiance, sex in the city, whatever the fuck they have going on. 02:05:23.261 --> 02:05:28.741 But women are way more multitasking, way better multitasking than us. 02:05:28.841 --> 02:05:31.941 We tend to fucking zone the fuck in and whatever the fuck we're doing, 02:05:32.181 --> 02:05:34.321 we can't be everywhere in our minds. 02:05:34.441 --> 02:05:40.301 But women can do things and also be observing you at the same time. And they love it. 02:05:41.061 --> 02:05:45.701 When they see you doing things, when they see you channeling your creative forces 02:05:45.701 --> 02:05:47.981 and all that shit, man, they're watching you and they're like. 02:05:48.861 --> 02:05:51.961 That's my fucking man right there oh there's times 02:05:51.961 --> 02:05:54.661 where i'll be sitting there like and i 02:05:54.661 --> 02:05:57.601 won't be doing like a review or something i'll just be sitting there with the drink just 02:05:57.601 --> 02:06:00.441 she goes what are you thinking about i go um she goes 02:06:00.441 --> 02:06:04.181 you you got your thinking face on i go nothing she 02:06:04.181 --> 02:06:07.201 goes what are you talking about i go nothing like i was 02:06:07.201 --> 02:06:10.061 peaceful there was nothing going on here i had my drink 02:06:10.061 --> 02:06:12.741 i'm watching the show she goes how do you do 02:06:12.741 --> 02:06:19.681 that i go you just kind of off my way turn the switching off listen i promise 02:06:19.681 --> 02:06:26.321 you my wife has learned over all these years she tends to not ask me that question 02:06:26.321 --> 02:06:30.521 of what are you thinking about because she knows something crazy oh. 02:06:31.901 --> 02:06:38.741 She'll see me i'll be like and she's like what do you think about i'm like you 02:06:38.741 --> 02:06:42.661 really want to know she's like fuck it tell me what you're thinking about like. 02:06:43.498 --> 02:06:48.678 I'm asking myself, why the fuck did Jean-Claude Van Damme never fucking go and 02:06:48.678 --> 02:06:50.658 beat the shit out of Steven Seagal? 02:06:51.158 --> 02:06:55.158 Why the fuck did he was in the same place so many times? 02:06:55.578 --> 02:07:01.398 Why didn't he just go roundhouse this motherfucker and catch him in a... She's like, I knew it. 02:07:01.718 --> 02:07:04.838 Forget it. Forget that. You asked me what I'm thinking about. 02:07:04.938 --> 02:07:07.298 That's legit what I'm thinking about right now. 02:07:07.698 --> 02:07:11.398 Yeah. Half the time, I'm not thinking of anything. I turned the switch. 02:07:11.538 --> 02:07:14.738 There's nothing going on. i'm just staring into blank space the 02:07:14.738 --> 02:07:17.498 other half is paul and adam they got 02:07:17.498 --> 02:07:20.238 theories they got conspiracy theories and i'll listen to 02:07:20.238 --> 02:07:22.938 it and i got my own conspiracy theories and i haven't been able 02:07:22.938 --> 02:07:25.938 to jump on that show just because they they go for 02:07:25.938 --> 02:07:29.338 like four hours like oh i 02:07:29.338 --> 02:07:32.358 know sundays i got nothing going on 99 of the 02:07:32.358 --> 02:07:35.178 time and i could sit here for an hour i 02:07:35.178 --> 02:07:38.038 could sit here for five hours six hours and i know i got nothing 02:07:38.038 --> 02:07:40.898 going on i got dinner sitting in there waiting for me but i 02:07:40.898 --> 02:07:44.118 got nothing else to do during the week when they record like 02:07:44.118 --> 02:07:46.998 i i got shit i got i got 02:07:46.998 --> 02:07:50.298 to go to work at like 6 37 in the morning and i 02:07:50.298 --> 02:07:53.118 got to be somewhat present so i i can't do these so 02:07:53.118 --> 02:07:56.178 eventually i'll get on there but it's either nothing 02:07:56.178 --> 02:07:59.418 or some kind of conspiracy theory or why the 02:07:59.418 --> 02:08:02.158 fuck did this guy just throw the 02:08:02.158 --> 02:08:07.278 football instead of run or vice versa yeah yeah like yesterday like i'm a florida 02:08:07.278 --> 02:08:11.158 fan i was watching obviously watching the florida georgia game And I'm sitting 02:08:11.158 --> 02:08:15.218 there thinking like that motherfucker That was a fucking catch He ruled it incomplete 02:08:15.218 --> 02:08:20.498 that was a fucking catch Like that's bullshit So yeah it's You know listen. 02:08:22.478 --> 02:08:29.918 If you guys are Paul you're A big college football fan too No NFL I'm. 02:08:31.273 --> 02:08:35.233 Attention to college football, but I'm not, I'm, I'm huge in the NFL. 02:08:35.513 --> 02:08:38.413 I'm going to tell you what I feel about college football. Hey, 02:08:38.733 --> 02:08:42.613 I, I am not, do I watch games and stuff like that? 02:08:42.733 --> 02:08:47.153 Occasionally I do, but I don't have a team because I feel like the people who 02:08:47.153 --> 02:08:49.273 are fans of those scenes, 02:08:49.453 --> 02:08:52.473 either a, they grew up in a fucking household that they 02:08:52.473 --> 02:08:55.973 just grew up that way or B they went 02:08:55.973 --> 02:08:58.853 to that fucking school and that's why they're big 02:08:58.853 --> 02:09:02.293 fans of those teams so i can't like magically show 02:09:02.293 --> 02:09:05.713 up today in 2025 and be like oh i'm 02:09:05.713 --> 02:09:08.713 a tennessee fan or i'm a fucking florida fan because 02:09:08.713 --> 02:09:13.253 i never i didn't grow up that way i grew up in massachusetts my family wasn't 02:09:13.253 --> 02:09:18.093 watching college football it's not college football yeah yeah north is just 02:09:18.093 --> 02:09:21.793 fucking the the the big leagues and stuff like that now don't get it twisted 02:09:21.793 --> 02:09:26.813 there's some areas in massachusetts that are insane Notre Dame fans and all 02:09:26.813 --> 02:09:28.053 that shit. Like, you know what I mean? 02:09:28.333 --> 02:09:33.913 But I didn't grow up that way. So whenever I see people down here that they 02:09:33.913 --> 02:09:37.953 love their football teams, when it comes to college, I kind of like that. 02:09:38.093 --> 02:09:42.273 I find it cool because I'm like, man, that's, that's cool to, to, you know, 02:09:42.753 --> 02:09:46.773 grow up knowing that you, you love that team and, you know, but I can, 02:09:46.893 --> 02:09:51.153 I, it's hard for me to sit here and watch and embrace the, the, 02:09:51.373 --> 02:09:56.253 the, the actual team because I didn't grow up watching those, but it's cool, though. 02:09:56.853 --> 02:10:02.853 Yeah. I mean, I watch just to see what's coming to the big league. In my mind, it's NFL. 02:10:03.133 --> 02:10:08.433 So I love NFL, but of course, I'm a diehard Pats fan. That's my team, obviously. 02:10:08.813 --> 02:10:14.313 And I love boxing. So I love watching me some boxing. 02:10:14.593 --> 02:10:19.573 And those are the sports that really get me riled up. 02:10:21.491 --> 02:10:24.871 I'm NFL and hockey, Jerry, the hockey guy, too. 02:10:25.491 --> 02:10:30.771 But I do have to say that last night, I watch about one baseball game a year, 02:10:30.811 --> 02:10:32.191 and it's usually the last one. 02:10:32.591 --> 02:10:38.211 And I watched that game last night. That game last night was a fantastic game. That was a crazy game. 02:10:38.551 --> 02:10:42.331 And the Dodgers were supposed to lose that game six. That's so crazy. 02:10:42.511 --> 02:10:44.791 No, God bless America. Canada. 02:10:45.591 --> 02:10:49.311 She's getting ready for bed, and I'm like, I'll be in in like two minutes. 02:10:49.311 --> 02:10:51.091 It's the top of the ninth inning. 02:10:51.271 --> 02:10:53.631 We got two outs, and I'll be in bed. 02:10:53.831 --> 02:10:59.111 Next thing I know, it's tied game. I go, it's going to be a minute. It's extra innings now. 02:10:59.671 --> 02:11:03.311 But you know what? I don't have a problem. 02:11:03.851 --> 02:11:06.831 First of all, I think that's the way it should be in all sports. 02:11:07.151 --> 02:11:11.591 I don't want to fucking hear about ties in the NFL. That shit drives me crazy. 02:11:11.791 --> 02:11:13.491 I'm like, dude, fucking play. 02:11:13.871 --> 02:11:16.371 I don't give a fuck if 24 hours go by. 02:11:18.011 --> 02:11:24.511 Somebody told me a few days ago Yeah but you gotta understand NFL You know cats can get hurt, 02:11:25.571 --> 02:11:30.331 That's fun It's the game of the game They signed that company Even if you want 02:11:30.331 --> 02:11:36.071 to go that route Where there's injuries Look at hockey they go to a shootout 02:11:36.071 --> 02:11:40.651 They came up with a good way around it You could go to a kick out, 02:11:41.271 --> 02:11:46.351 Kind of like how Soccer has the penalty kicks Or whatever you call them Or you 02:11:46.351 --> 02:11:49.251 could go to Red Zone. Just go to Red Zone. Yeah, that's it. 02:11:50.631 --> 02:11:55.131 That's what college football does. That's what they should do. I don't want to hear. 02:11:55.271 --> 02:11:58.831 I can't stand when I see somebody in the NFL, they get a tie. 02:11:58.971 --> 02:12:01.151 I'm like, dude, this makes no fucking sense. 02:12:02.011 --> 02:12:05.671 In soccer and hockey, you got the little shootout or penalty kicks or whatever 02:12:05.671 --> 02:12:07.651 where it's one person versus the goalie. 02:12:07.751 --> 02:12:11.611 You could put that kicker out there at the five-yard line and then go back 10, 02:12:11.771 --> 02:12:15.931 15 yards each kick until you can mix it, which would be awesome because we all 02:12:15.931 --> 02:12:19.991 know kickers don't do shit through the game 90% of the time let them have their 02:12:19.991 --> 02:12:22.571 fucking moment in the game like hey like. 02:12:23.603 --> 02:12:26.583 Would make the game better because you would focus on 02:12:26.583 --> 02:12:29.563 like i've always said like if i was an nfl 02:12:29.563 --> 02:12:32.563 you know gm i'd be 02:12:32.563 --> 02:12:35.543 the team that had the fucking best kicker and 02:12:35.543 --> 02:12:39.623 he'd be the highest paid kicker in the nfl because i mean six times a week i 02:12:39.623 --> 02:12:42.863 mean it happened four times today where games were won on last second field 02:12:42.863 --> 02:12:48.003 goal and i feel like nfl franchise is just completely sleep on having like a 02:12:48.003 --> 02:12:51.803 fantastic kicker they're just like oh next guy up and hopefully he'll make it 02:12:51.803 --> 02:12:53.603 but like if you You have, I mean, you know, 02:12:53.723 --> 02:12:58.363 like you had Vinatieri and Gostkowski that won Super Bowls for you. Fuck yeah. 02:12:58.823 --> 02:13:03.523 Panthers. Fuck yeah. The goddamn Panthers on a last minute kick in the Super 02:13:03.523 --> 02:13:05.243 Bowl. It pissed me the fuck off. 02:13:05.423 --> 02:13:09.683 But like, that's where, like, I just don't understand. I mean, 02:13:09.743 --> 02:13:15.283 it's such a crucial fucking position that teams just completely sleep on and don't pay attention to. 02:13:15.483 --> 02:13:20.843 That would be a cool twist if you went to, you know, fourth quarter expires in this tide. 02:13:20.843 --> 02:13:23.803 Kickers line up on the 30 boom boom now 02:13:23.803 --> 02:13:26.883 you're on the first person that misses loses that 02:13:26.883 --> 02:13:29.843 would be awesome that would be i would love watching now 02:13:29.843 --> 02:13:32.863 now we're now in boxing is 02:13:32.863 --> 02:13:37.603 a little different i i can understand how sometimes there's a draw in boxing 02:13:37.603 --> 02:13:42.723 because let's be real sometimes guys go at it and they're just they are both 02:13:42.723 --> 02:13:47.923 that fucking good and there is just what are we gonna to do is sit here and 02:13:47.923 --> 02:13:51.103 fucking die here as they keep doing the same exact shit. 02:13:51.343 --> 02:13:55.923 Like, in boxing, it makes sense for there sometimes to be a draw, 02:13:55.983 --> 02:13:59.043 and I'm okay with that because, like I said, sometimes... 02:14:00.504 --> 02:14:05.164 If not, we're just going to get a world of boredom after so many rounds. 02:14:05.544 --> 02:14:09.704 If these boxers have the same exact style, it's just going to become insanely 02:14:09.704 --> 02:14:12.224 boring. They're going to just get tired and slow down. 02:14:12.664 --> 02:14:15.664 And it's just going to be boring. We've all seen it. Yeah. Those 10, 02:14:15.824 --> 02:14:20.604 12 rounders where they're just kind of, they throw like one punch for the whole 02:14:20.604 --> 02:14:23.524 fucking five minute round or two minute round, whatever it is at the time. 02:14:23.644 --> 02:14:26.144 They're hugging each other. It's just like, all right, we're done. But that's different. 02:14:26.344 --> 02:14:28.364 These are violent sports. Those make sense. 02:14:28.604 --> 02:14:31.324 In NFL, it's a team. fucking sport. 02:14:32.044 --> 02:14:35.864 Like you said, you can figure it out down to the kicker, down to the red zone. 02:14:37.824 --> 02:14:42.284 There's ways around this shit so there no longer be draws in this sport. 02:14:42.404 --> 02:14:44.584 There shouldn't be a fucking draw in fucking NFL. 02:14:45.704 --> 02:14:51.184 Or here's a good one. When you go to overtime in the NFL, your backup quarterback has to come in. 02:14:53.564 --> 02:14:57.324 That's a good one. Yeah, that is a good one. 02:14:57.484 --> 02:15:00.524 Have just a little bit of something that you want some suspense 02:15:00.524 --> 02:15:03.444 a little bit of something that it's not just an extra quarter 02:15:03.444 --> 02:15:08.144 you know have something cool about it where you know because i know today like 02:15:08.144 --> 02:15:12.104 i'm standing up in front of the tv when carolina is lining up to kick that kick 02:15:12.104 --> 02:15:16.344 and then fucking green bay uses their you know last time out to ice the kicker 02:15:16.344 --> 02:15:19.724 which is the stupidest fucking thing i think it's ever and they've interviewed 02:15:19.724 --> 02:15:21.444 kickers kickers is like just i. 02:15:22.308 --> 02:15:25.928 Already know that I have to kick the ball to win the game. 30 more seconds isn't 02:15:25.928 --> 02:15:27.868 going to make me fucking get in my head. 02:15:28.028 --> 02:15:31.728 Most kickers know if there's a timeout on the table, they're going to use it. 02:15:31.728 --> 02:15:32.268 They're going to take it, right. 02:15:32.668 --> 02:15:36.708 They'll be surprised if they don't, to be honest, but stupid-ass old-school 02:15:36.708 --> 02:15:39.548 coaches are like, look, slice the kicker. It's a stupidest fucking thing. 02:15:39.928 --> 02:15:44.188 It's dumbest fuck. But I'm standing up in the living room watching to wait to 02:15:44.188 --> 02:15:47.968 see if he's going to get it because we had just got a penalty and backed up 02:15:47.968 --> 02:15:52.188 the fucking extra point to the 48-yard line. We missed. He missed the kick. 02:15:52.308 --> 02:15:56.368 And now it's 49 yard kick to win the game. And I'm like, sweat, 02:15:56.528 --> 02:16:00.288 you know, and that's intense. Like, that's what you want for overtime. 02:16:00.428 --> 02:16:03.588 You don't want just a fucking extra quarter with the same players. 02:16:03.588 --> 02:16:08.028 I want, you know, backups in or kicking challenge or, you know, 02:16:08.128 --> 02:16:13.248 something crazy or, you know, or seven on seven or something crazy like that. 02:16:13.488 --> 02:16:16.128 You know, give us something, but don't give us that fucking draw. 02:16:16.368 --> 02:16:18.048 That draw makes no fucking sense. 02:16:18.108 --> 02:16:22.508 Makes no sense. just muddies the playoff race because like Green Bay today, 02:16:22.728 --> 02:16:26.028 we're looking at the record like Carolina during the game you see right next to the score, 02:16:26.168 --> 02:16:31.248 Carolina 4-4 Green Bay 5-1-1 or whatever the fuck it was but they have that 02:16:31.248 --> 02:16:35.408 tie there and I'm like it just muddies the whole fucking playoff race with that 02:16:35.408 --> 02:16:38.908 stupid tie that they have on their record, you know, it's just dumb. 02:16:39.888 --> 02:16:45.228 All that being said this Jags Raiders game overtime, 02:16:45.548 --> 02:16:50.368 Jags score, kick the field goal kick it off, Raiders go downfield, 02:16:50.528 --> 02:16:55.928 score a touchdown they go for two to win the game instead of tying it and miss 02:16:55.928 --> 02:17:01.028 the two point oh yeah, wait, say that again, sorry my fucking phone just started 02:17:01.028 --> 02:17:04.428 once again doing crazy stuff so. 02:17:06.448 --> 02:17:12.588 The game goes into overtime Jags, Raiders, right Jags march down the field get 02:17:12.588 --> 02:17:14.768 a touchdown, get the extra point go up by seven, 02:17:15.970 --> 02:17:20.670 Kickoff, Raiders go downfield, they score a touchdown. Instead of kicking the 02:17:20.670 --> 02:17:26.630 extra point for the tie, they went for two-point to win the game, and they missed it. 02:17:27.730 --> 02:17:31.150 Holy shit. So at least there was no tie there. 02:17:31.670 --> 02:17:38.590 So Jags won? Yeah. Oh, my buddy in Italy right now has to be losing his fucking mind right now. 02:17:38.850 --> 02:17:42.910 You know what some crazy shit is that I just heard this week? 02:17:43.030 --> 02:17:45.890 I don't know if you guys might have seen this online, but the CFL, 02:17:45.990 --> 02:17:51.230 the Canadian Football League there was a game where it was tied, 02:17:51.630 --> 02:17:55.370 last second field goal from like, I don't know, 40 yards and there's a longer 02:17:55.370 --> 02:17:58.830 field goal but their field's all weird, their cameras, everything is Canada, 02:17:58.870 --> 02:18:03.290 it's all fucking ass backwards he lines up to get the field goal and fucking 02:18:03.290 --> 02:18:05.570 misses it, just barely kicks it left, 02:18:05.810 --> 02:18:11.370 misses it that team just goes fucking nuts because evidently at the CFL, 02:18:11.830 --> 02:18:15.370 there is a rule that if you kick a field goal and you make it, it's three points. 02:18:15.370 --> 02:18:21.330 But if you miss it but you clear the end zone, you kick it out of the end zone, it's one point. 02:18:21.850 --> 02:18:26.530 And so they won by one point because the motherfucker missed the field goal. Wow. 02:18:27.810 --> 02:18:30.990 So it wasn't short. He just kicked it far enough to get it out of the end zone. 02:18:30.990 --> 02:18:32.770 As long as you boot it past the end zone. 02:18:32.910 --> 02:18:38.790 Because their field goal posts are on the goal line or like two yards in the field, whatever it is. 02:18:39.030 --> 02:18:44.090 So as long as if you miss it, but yet it still goes out of play, 02:18:44.090 --> 02:18:45.550 basically, you get a point. 02:18:45.910 --> 02:18:49.550 What the fuck is that kind of shit? It's just one thing. It's just Canada handed 02:18:49.550 --> 02:18:50.830 out participation trophies. 02:18:51.150 --> 02:18:56.910 Well, it's the same thing is in like arena football here is during a kickoff. 02:18:57.090 --> 02:19:00.930 If you kick it off through the field goalpost, it's called dropping the deuce 02:19:00.930 --> 02:19:02.870 and you get two points on a kickoff. 02:19:03.050 --> 02:19:07.410 So like if you lose the, or however you want to, if the, 02:19:08.471 --> 02:19:11.771 of the game, the coin toss, you win the coin toss, I want it second half, 02:19:11.911 --> 02:19:13.151 so now you're kicking off. 02:19:13.551 --> 02:19:18.051 You kick off, there's still 20 minutes on the clock or whatever, 02:19:18.291 --> 02:19:21.391 15 minutes, whatever it is, and it goes between the goalposts, 02:19:21.411 --> 02:19:23.331 it's 2-0 to start the game. 02:19:23.691 --> 02:19:27.871 And then they get the ball at the 10-yard line or whatever it is in an arena 02:19:27.871 --> 02:19:30.371 football. But you're up 2-0. Yeah. 02:19:31.891 --> 02:19:35.751 But at least in that instance, the guy did something. 02:19:35.891 --> 02:19:39.771 He kicked it through the goalposts. And then CFL, the motherfucker, 02:19:39.831 --> 02:19:43.931 he could kick it to the corner of the fucking end zone as long as it goes out of the end zone. 02:19:44.091 --> 02:19:46.691 He doesn't even have to be close and he still gets a goddamn point. 02:19:47.631 --> 02:19:53.371 I'm like, what the fuck is this rule? It's Canada. They haven't won anything since, what was it? 02:19:53.811 --> 02:19:59.171 Well, basketball won in 2016, 2017. 02:19:59.591 --> 02:20:07.391 But the Blue Jays or was it baseball, hockey, and... What is it, the Maples? 02:20:07.951 --> 02:20:14.031 Yeah, so the last Canadian hockey team to win was in 93, I think it was, 02:20:14.111 --> 02:20:15.731 which was the Canadiens. 02:20:16.351 --> 02:20:20.931 Maple Leafs haven't won it since like, what, 63 or something like that? Oh. 02:20:21.271 --> 02:20:25.611 The Blue Jays haven't won it since 93. Because I think it was Blue Jays and 02:20:25.611 --> 02:20:29.971 Canadiens winning the Stanley Cup and World Series in the same year, 02:20:30.091 --> 02:20:31.151 if I remember correctly. 02:20:31.831 --> 02:20:37.431 Wow. And then you had the, was it the Toronto, was it the Raptors or whatever? I don't know. 02:20:37.451 --> 02:20:45.831 I don't watch basketball with Chris Bosh, which was back in like 2016 or something like that. Dang. 02:20:46.591 --> 02:20:51.671 So I don't, I don't, I don't watch basketball. So I know it was, it was closer, but. 02:20:52.771 --> 02:20:57.211 And basically Canada hasn't won a major thing in almost 10 years. 02:20:57.351 --> 02:21:00.591 The funny thing is, though, I was thinking about this last night, 02:21:00.591 --> 02:21:03.591 though, when I was rooting for the Dodgers because I'm not a baseball fan at all. 02:21:03.651 --> 02:21:06.811 See, I was rooting for the Blue Jays because fuck the Dodgers and fuck shit away. 02:21:07.011 --> 02:21:11.131 I just was because the Dodgers are not Canadian. But I was thinking about this. 02:21:11.231 --> 02:21:12.511 I was like, when it comes to the 02:21:12.511 --> 02:21:16.171 big four sports, you don't really have to think about this in football. 02:21:16.311 --> 02:21:22.031 So it's really just hockey, baseball, and basketball. None of the teams in Canada 02:21:22.031 --> 02:21:26.131 have Canadian players even on them, except hockey. 02:21:27.071 --> 02:21:32.911 Basketball and baseball, it's mostly American players. Well, baseball players. 02:21:33.671 --> 02:21:37.531 Or American players that are from Canada. 02:21:37.831 --> 02:21:42.651 And it's only really hockey. But half the Canadian players play on U.S. teams. 02:21:42.751 --> 02:21:46.771 And there might be a few sprinkled in on Canadian teams. But it's not it's it's 02:21:46.771 --> 02:21:50.791 until you get to the Olympics or the world, you know, the world stage where 02:21:50.791 --> 02:21:52.851 it's, you know, you have to really be there. 02:21:52.991 --> 02:21:56.791 But I still find myself rooting against whatever reason. 02:21:57.331 --> 02:22:03.691 Oh, with baseball, the majority of them are Dominican or or or somewhere down there. 02:22:03.971 --> 02:22:08.071 I'll tell you what you said earlier, you don't watch basketball. 02:22:08.071 --> 02:22:14.591 I got myself into, by the way, I got to get, like, sorry guys, 02:22:14.731 --> 02:22:18.591 but I got to get going soon because wifey cooked dinner a little while ago and 02:22:18.591 --> 02:22:20.811 she's like waiting to see when I'm going to come in for dinner. 02:22:21.111 --> 02:22:27.431 But I got into a discussion, I think it was yesterday, because these guys in 02:22:27.431 --> 02:22:33.031 the barbershop, they were talking about basketball and they immediately started 02:22:33.031 --> 02:22:34.731 talking about that goat topic. 02:22:34.731 --> 02:22:41.411 And when I immediately was like, when they said this was the comment, they were like. 02:22:42.456 --> 02:22:46.436 This point the only person above lebron maybe 02:22:46.436 --> 02:22:50.256 they they fucking said this maybe we're talking 02:22:50.256 --> 02:22:53.976 about maybe jordan i said fucking maybe let 02:22:53.976 --> 02:22:59.816 me ask you before you go on these guys were younger than 30 were they not the 02:22:59.816 --> 02:23:09.136 the oldest was 33 yeah so so these guys so oh no that's not the crazy part The 02:23:09.136 --> 02:23:11.936 crazy part was what I said that pissed them off. 02:23:12.236 --> 02:23:16.596 Like to a point, they all started losing their fucking mind because I was like, 02:23:16.716 --> 02:23:22.076 first of all, like the only person that I consider after LeBron, 02:23:22.176 --> 02:23:24.976 after Jordan is fucking Kobe. 02:23:25.636 --> 02:23:30.696 Like, why are we talking about LeBron and in, in, in that like, 02:23:30.936 --> 02:23:38.816 bro, Kobe is way above LeBron. Like, we never had, can fucking LeBron ever do anything that Kobe did. 02:23:38.896 --> 02:23:41.616 That's number one. And this is where I pissed them off. 02:23:41.856 --> 02:23:46.836 They were like, oh, so you think LeBron is three? I was like, fuck no. 02:23:47.416 --> 02:23:51.236 LeBron is not top five. And they were like, not top five? 02:23:51.396 --> 02:23:56.756 I said, bro, I'm telling you right now, you know who I put above LeBron? 02:23:56.856 --> 02:23:57.996 And they were like, who? Who? 02:23:58.722 --> 02:24:04.902 Said Larry Bird. Larry Bird is above. And they were like, you fucking disrespect. 02:24:05.542 --> 02:24:09.262 I was like, oh. Will Chamberlain, Magic Johnson. 02:24:09.962 --> 02:24:14.182 Bill Russell, 11 rings. I don't put LeBron in the top 10. 02:24:14.402 --> 02:24:18.082 I was going to say, he might be. He's not the top player in his era. 02:24:18.342 --> 02:24:19.942 Steph Curry is better than him. 02:24:20.262 --> 02:24:26.382 Bro, oh my God, I said that. I said, Steph Curry is fucking way above LeBron. 02:24:26.482 --> 02:24:30.762 And they were like, why? I said, no, you see, the problem is you guys are talking 02:24:30.762 --> 02:24:33.922 shit because you're looking at Steph Curry as a small dude. 02:24:34.142 --> 02:24:40.782 But what you don't realize is that let's talk just strictly three-pointers here, right? 02:24:41.402 --> 02:24:44.362 And early in the game, when we thought about three-pointers, 02:24:44.522 --> 02:24:45.562 we thought about Larry Bird. 02:24:45.922 --> 02:24:51.962 After Larry Bird came Reggie Miller. After Reggie Miller came Ray Allen. 02:24:52.502 --> 02:24:56.242 And I said, let me tell you something. when when 02:24:56.242 --> 02:24:59.142 when it came when it came to three 02:24:59.142 --> 02:25:02.382 pointers that fucking dude Steph Curry made 02:25:02.382 --> 02:25:05.282 the entire league change up their 02:25:05.282 --> 02:25:10.842 strategy because of how he was raining down these threes every team was forced 02:25:10.842 --> 02:25:15.142 to say fuck we gotta get better at shooting threes because this motherfucker 02:25:15.142 --> 02:25:20.782 with anybody he teams up with Klay Thompson whomever they start calling them 02:25:20.782 --> 02:25:23.022 the Splash brothers and shit and they start raining out. 02:25:23.162 --> 02:25:27.182 I'm like, so for me, anybody that changes the fucking game. 02:25:28.331 --> 02:25:32.491 You should be considered in that type of topic. I was like, when has anybody 02:25:32.491 --> 02:25:37.771 ever been scared of LeBron when he comes into town? Nobody. Nobody. 02:25:38.511 --> 02:25:41.531 You're not changing the rules because of what LeBron's doing. 02:25:41.911 --> 02:25:46.411 Bro, Jason Tatum dunked on fucking LeBron when Jason Tatum was a fucking rookie. 02:25:46.571 --> 02:25:47.791 That's so disrespectful. 02:25:48.651 --> 02:25:53.571 That lets you know how much he's not fucking afraid LeBron. 02:25:53.711 --> 02:25:56.871 You know what I mean? No team has ever been LeBron has 02:25:56.871 --> 02:26:00.091 never shook Unlike a Jordan Every time 02:26:00.091 --> 02:26:02.951 a Jordan would come into town This team 02:26:02.951 --> 02:26:08.831 had to say Fuck we gotta figure out How the fuck to play Because of that one 02:26:08.831 --> 02:26:15.771 fucking dude Yes I understand He's accompanied by Pippen Steve Kerr and fucking 02:26:15.771 --> 02:26:19.611 Everybody up Pippen Like all these other players on the team But at the end 02:26:19.611 --> 02:26:21.471 of the day you had to adapt. 02:26:22.246 --> 02:26:28.866 Fucking Jordan's style and what he might do in this one fucking game. Same as fucking Curry. 02:26:29.206 --> 02:26:33.826 Curry would come in and you don't know what the fuck kind of thing this kid is going to do. 02:26:34.006 --> 02:26:41.746 And you're brushing him off because of his body stature and everything like that. 02:26:41.866 --> 02:26:45.686 But it's like, dude, this fucking kid is immaculate. And again, 02:26:45.926 --> 02:26:51.306 I'll tell you that Larry Bird was one of those fucking dudes that people had 02:26:51.306 --> 02:26:58.526 to worry about how he played because his mindset was so on another fucking level 02:26:58.526 --> 02:27:04.866 that it created worry in every team they came up with. And he was an assassin, just like Jordan was. 02:27:05.026 --> 02:27:10.626 And not even Jordan can get past Bird lots of times. 02:27:10.786 --> 02:27:16.966 Right. It was like their games elevated Like the flu game with Jordan and stuff And when you pushed him, 02:27:16.986 --> 02:27:22.086 pushed him He would rise to the occasion LeBron flops more than a fucking soccer 02:27:22.086 --> 02:27:28.006 player Like he doesn't rise to the occasion And this is not us Just saying he 02:27:28.006 --> 02:27:34.566 flops He's proven it He's been caught on camera Flopping and peeking through his thing Yeah, 02:27:34.906 --> 02:27:37.346 like we've caught you Like dude. 02:27:37.886 --> 02:27:40.746 You are like man you're a shit bag in 02:27:40.746 --> 02:27:43.546 this league yes you know i always say 02:27:43.546 --> 02:27:46.486 that the goat is the person who changes the game 02:27:46.486 --> 02:27:49.426 and yes you lebron you did 02:27:49.426 --> 02:27:52.606 change the game for the worst you changed the 02:27:52.606 --> 02:27:55.326 game for the worst you made it seem like it 02:27:55.326 --> 02:28:01.246 was okay to flop and take time off that is how you change the fucking game you 02:28:01.246 --> 02:28:07.266 made it worse nope i totally agree it's so laughable when people even consider 02:28:07.266 --> 02:28:11.646 him in the fucking goat conversations like you're leaving out like just look 02:28:11.646 --> 02:28:13.346 at the dream team from 92 like. 02:28:14.946 --> 02:28:20.406 I mean, yeah, the kids forget about like, or they don't know that I can't put you above Shaq. 02:28:20.526 --> 02:28:25.266 I can't put you above Shaq. I can't put you above David Robinson. 02:28:25.346 --> 02:28:28.426 I don't put you above Karl Malone, David Robinson. 02:28:29.006 --> 02:28:31.986 Like, are you kidding me? Like, I mean, it's a different era. 02:28:32.226 --> 02:28:36.766 I know. But like these younger kids, like they need to go back and watch some 02:28:36.766 --> 02:28:40.346 tapes from the fucking early. I can't even, even with the practice shit, 02:28:40.346 --> 02:28:43.146 I can't even put you above Allen Iverson. 02:28:43.726 --> 02:28:48.626 You know, if it wasn't for the whole practice scandal, Allen Iverson would, 02:28:48.666 --> 02:28:50.946 would have been insanely respected. 02:28:51.366 --> 02:28:55.586 Allen Iverson also changed the game because of his handles. The way he handled 02:28:55.586 --> 02:28:58.986 the ball made cats because before Allen Iverson, 02:28:59.166 --> 02:29:03.426 there was Tim Hardaway's and people like that, that had handles, 02:29:03.466 --> 02:29:07.826 but no one, no one had handles the way Allen Iverson. 02:29:07.886 --> 02:29:11.726 When Allen Iverson came in, they were like, fuck, this dude is legit, 02:29:11.906 --> 02:29:16.226 literally breaking our fucking ankles and making us get into the fucking ice 02:29:16.226 --> 02:29:19.206 bath because he fucking hurt us during the game. 02:29:20.146 --> 02:29:24.626 I wish there was, like, I wish GMs would be honest and somebody would do a poll 02:29:24.626 --> 02:29:30.686 in the NBA and poll all the GMs and say, next year's class, the 2026 class, 02:29:30.946 --> 02:29:33.246 is Jordan, LeBron, Kobe. 02:29:33.426 --> 02:29:37.146 Like, just picture all of them coming out, who you drafted first, 02:29:37.326 --> 02:29:39.726 second. and put Wilt Chamberlain, put Bird, put all of them. 02:29:40.106 --> 02:29:45.406 Here's your draft class, GM, and I want to hear from every single GM who you 02:29:45.406 --> 02:29:48.646 draft in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, because if they're honest about it, 02:29:49.126 --> 02:29:54.066 LeBron's being picked like 15th or 20th, and I wish they would do that and show 02:29:54.066 --> 02:29:59.266 these younger people that watch this sport that he's not the crazy person. 02:30:00.046 --> 02:30:03.546 Everybody's argument for LeBron is always the same shit. 02:30:03.726 --> 02:30:10.746 Have you seen his numbers? Have you seen how he's able to move the team? Here's my favorite one. 02:30:11.426 --> 02:30:17.006 Now, one time has he been involved for a scandal? I'm like, what is this? The fucking... 02:30:17.952 --> 02:30:20.652 Noble peace price like what what are we fucking trying 02:30:20.652 --> 02:30:23.612 to get this dude i'm i'm basing this shit off of fucking 02:30:23.612 --> 02:30:26.572 skills right i say i don't watch 02:30:26.572 --> 02:30:34.232 basketball but i do like i do follow it like i know yeah i i i take so back 02:30:34.232 --> 02:30:37.852 in the day i did watch it i did play a little bit of i don't know what you call 02:30:37.852 --> 02:30:42.732 it like t-ball for basketball like t-ball for baseball for bass like i did play 02:30:42.732 --> 02:30:45.792 And growing up in the Tampa area, 02:30:46.052 --> 02:30:50.012 obviously you got the magic and whatever, and you had Shaq and all those guys. 02:30:50.192 --> 02:30:55.052 So I did watch it in the early 2000s and then come, I don't know, 02:30:55.192 --> 02:31:00.552 like the mid 2000s, just like more or less when LeBron and all these guys started 02:31:00.552 --> 02:31:02.572 coming out. I'm like, all right, I'm done with this. 02:31:02.892 --> 02:31:09.032 But the difference is you didn't have Jordan changing teams to win a championship. 02:31:09.572 --> 02:31:14.732 No, that's the point. None of them did. LeBron's changing team to team. 02:31:15.532 --> 02:31:20.752 All these guys, like I get Kobe, yeah, he might have changed teams, 02:31:20.772 --> 02:31:23.612 but there was contractual issues or whatever. 02:31:23.792 --> 02:31:27.052 But most of these guys, like the guys that we've been talking about that are 02:31:27.052 --> 02:31:32.392 above LeBron or in our minds above LeBron, which is definitely above, 02:31:33.192 --> 02:31:34.392 they didn't change teams. 02:31:34.832 --> 02:31:38.532 Like with Jordan, Pippen, and all these guys, they came to play with Jordan 02:31:38.532 --> 02:31:43.312 to say, hey, I want to play with him. Jordan didn't change teams to go for another team. 02:31:43.552 --> 02:31:46.992 He didn't say, I'm going down south to play with these guys to win a championship. 02:31:47.172 --> 02:31:49.192 Let's be clear. They stayed there. Well, we're... 02:31:50.388 --> 02:31:54.608 Were the reasons that players back in the days changed teams? 02:31:54.628 --> 02:32:00.028 They did not change teams for the sake of chasing championships. 02:32:00.708 --> 02:32:04.388 They changed teams because of some bullshit that they had going on. 02:32:04.588 --> 02:32:05.228 This, that, and the dirt. 02:32:06.668 --> 02:32:12.308 LeBron was chasing fucking championships. The only move that LeBron did that 02:32:12.308 --> 02:32:16.928 was fairly a fucking decent one was when he went back to Cleveland. 02:32:17.388 --> 02:32:20.128 That was the only respectable move. When you have 02:32:20.128 --> 02:32:23.748 a press conference like it's a fucking a college signing 02:32:23.748 --> 02:32:27.288 day where you have the table it's just like it's 02:32:27.288 --> 02:32:30.568 a joke is what it is yeah it's just like moving my 02:32:30.568 --> 02:32:33.368 talent i am going here it's stupid 02:32:33.368 --> 02:32:36.888 where they put the hat i'm like no yeah it's stupid it's 02:32:36.888 --> 02:32:39.808 stupid like i everyone every player whether it's 02:32:39.808 --> 02:32:42.828 in the nba or or baseball or 02:32:42.828 --> 02:32:47.548 football or hockey or any of them even soccer any of the major sports you're 02:32:47.548 --> 02:32:50.428 going to change teams like there's going to be some kind of contractual thing 02:32:50.428 --> 02:32:54.188 yeah or you had some issue with the coach or or one of the other players and 02:32:54.188 --> 02:32:57.608 you want like i want to separate myself but you're not chasing championships 02:32:57.608 --> 02:32:59.968 lebron and in my personal opinion, 02:33:00.448 --> 02:33:06.048 was trying to chase these championships all right i know bosch or or this guy 02:33:06.048 --> 02:33:10.348 was playing down south or playing over here i'm going to follow him in hopes 02:33:10.348 --> 02:33:13.748 that we win a championship and hope other people follow me. 02:33:14.368 --> 02:33:20.108 When Jordan and Larry Bird and all these guys are like, I just want to play because of the game. 02:33:20.768 --> 02:33:25.008 I'm playing a game and I'm going to stay here. I'm having fun with these guys. 02:33:25.168 --> 02:33:26.528 If we win, we win. If we don't, we don't. 02:33:28.287 --> 02:33:36.067 That's how I see the... And the more we go down the list, like as we sit here, 02:33:36.187 --> 02:33:39.787 the top five, top 10, I start thinking about all these names. 02:33:40.087 --> 02:33:44.047 I'm like, bro, you're not... You weren't better. Anthony Hardaway got hurt. 02:33:44.287 --> 02:33:48.367 That's the only reason Anthony Hardaway fucking went down. Besides that, 02:33:48.707 --> 02:33:50.147 that dude was better than you. 02:33:50.687 --> 02:33:56.527 Sean Kemp. Yo, Sean Kemp was insane, dude. Sean Kemp wasn't insane. 02:33:56.767 --> 02:34:01.947 Clyde Drexler. Like, dude, these guys were... I can make a case that Scottie 02:34:01.947 --> 02:34:03.727 Pippen was better than LeBron. 02:34:04.187 --> 02:34:06.387 Scottie Pippen, dude, if it wasn't 02:34:06.387 --> 02:34:09.027 because of Jordan... He might have been less crazy than LeBron, too. 02:34:09.407 --> 02:34:10.747 Yeah. Scottie Pippen was way 02:34:10.747 --> 02:34:14.827 better than fucking LeBron. Scottie Pippen is insanely better than LeBron. 02:34:14.967 --> 02:34:18.547 And we saw it. We saw the way Scottie Pippen played. He played in the shadow 02:34:18.547 --> 02:34:21.427 of the grass all the time. On Jordan, that's the only reason. 02:34:21.627 --> 02:34:25.067 But that's why he didn't get recognized as much as he should. 02:34:25.067 --> 02:34:30.187 But if I'm redrafted, Scottie Pippen is 20 and LeBron's 20, I'm taking Scottie 02:34:30.187 --> 02:34:31.367 Pippen in the draft. But guess what? 02:34:31.567 --> 02:34:36.527 How many kids when we were growing up had Scottie Pippen fucking basketball cards? A bunch. 02:34:36.867 --> 02:34:41.427 Like, people love having Scottie Pippen cards. I don't see people today talking 02:34:41.427 --> 02:34:42.907 about having a LeBron card. 02:34:43.107 --> 02:34:46.547 It's like, bro, there's really no value to these things, man. 02:34:46.647 --> 02:34:52.167 There's no—you can't pinpoint—that's another thing. Can you pinpoint a certain 02:34:52.167 --> 02:34:56.107 game, something that LeBron did that you're like, oh, my God, 02:34:56.307 --> 02:34:58.107 remember when he did this? 02:34:58.347 --> 02:35:01.767 You can't. You can't. But unlike him, 02:35:02.027 --> 02:35:06.467 you can pinpoint things when Jordan dunked on fucking Dikembe Motombo, 02:35:06.687 --> 02:35:13.787 when Shaq broke the fucking rims, when Sean Kemp did the fucking crazy thing 02:35:13.787 --> 02:35:16.307 through the air during the dunk competition, 02:35:16.567 --> 02:35:18.547 where the way his position was. 02:35:18.547 --> 02:35:22.327 So when Dee Brown, like, bro, there's like... Freddie Miller scored, 02:35:22.427 --> 02:35:24.787 like, what, 11 points in fucking 13th? 02:35:24.987 --> 02:35:30.807 Bro, like, insane fucking things that just seem out of... 02:35:31.861 --> 02:35:35.641 That's the point. It's out of this world. That's the whole point of sports. 02:35:35.841 --> 02:35:39.761 That's why we watch sports. We want to see out of this world type shit, 02:35:39.941 --> 02:35:41.821 especially when it comes to basketball. 02:35:42.301 --> 02:35:46.061 And LeBron, you just have never done out of this world type shit. 02:35:46.061 --> 02:35:48.941 It's always been more of the same. 02:35:49.161 --> 02:35:54.181 Yes, you've extended your fucking whatever because of load management and and 02:35:54.181 --> 02:35:56.941 all this, you know, all the extra ice baths you get. 02:35:57.101 --> 02:36:01.621 OK, good for fucking you. But at the end of the day, you have not wowed us. 02:36:01.861 --> 02:36:08.821 You have not wowed us the way those guys all we can pick a time or another when 02:36:08.821 --> 02:36:14.261 one of them did something insane that we're like, dude, that's why we respect 02:36:14.261 --> 02:36:16.081 the fuck out of Hakeem Olajuwon. 02:36:16.301 --> 02:36:21.881 That's why we respect the fuck. Bro, there's so many names that we can continue on to say. 02:36:22.061 --> 02:36:26.601 If we start to realize it, we're like, damn, this dude legit is not even fucking top 20. 02:36:27.021 --> 02:36:31.581 And the only argument for everyone else is longevity. 02:36:32.281 --> 02:36:36.801 Well, yeah, it's longevity because he's taking so much time off. 02:36:37.141 --> 02:36:40.861 Of course, he's going to have not only that is he bypassed college. 02:36:42.097 --> 02:36:44.897 Yeah so when when you're getting into league at 02:36:44.897 --> 02:36:48.317 18 years old versus everyone else back in the day what 02:36:48.317 --> 02:36:51.317 21 22 23 after doing their four five six 02:36:51.317 --> 02:36:54.317 years in college because we know back 02:36:54.317 --> 02:36:58.977 then it wasn't you play your four years and you got out it was you went for 02:36:58.977 --> 02:37:02.857 college you played your four years you had the red shirt or whatever you want 02:37:02.857 --> 02:37:05.997 to call it because you're partying all the time because that's how it was back 02:37:05.997 --> 02:37:11.597 in the 70s and 60s and 80s it like they're playing like, 02:37:12.157 --> 02:37:15.657 there's a couple guys that you know that played well didn't 02:37:15.657 --> 02:37:20.197 play but they were in college for six years lebron never went so he went straight 02:37:20.197 --> 02:37:25.057 there at 18 or whatever he was and he's been playing since and in the last and 02:37:25.057 --> 02:37:29.517 in the best person three years he's been complete shit because he's old and 02:37:29.517 --> 02:37:34.777 then the best person we can compare him to when it comes to that similar situation is kobe, 02:37:35.877 --> 02:37:39.277 was kobe came straight from from high school and 02:37:39.277 --> 02:37:42.637 he fucking came in and fucking made made 02:37:42.637 --> 02:37:47.337 it known who the fuck he was and how he could still be able to another level 02:37:47.337 --> 02:37:52.677 he'd still be able to play right now oh fuck yeah fuck yes like that so like 02:37:52.677 --> 02:37:57.897 i said i stopped watching mid-2000s basically after the whole well the bulls 02:37:57.897 --> 02:38:01.877 were the 90s and then he had the the magic and all that like, 02:38:02.877 --> 02:38:06.037 I still watch Because I'm a Celtics fan So my. 02:38:07.837 --> 02:38:15.237 You're the whole Mass Boston fan That's all Coming from someone from I was born 02:38:15.237 --> 02:38:16.797 in New York so fuck all those people. 02:38:18.657 --> 02:38:24.037 Hey listen I thought I'd like your cigars Until I saw your fucking jersey Are 02:38:24.037 --> 02:38:33.057 you Giants Or are you I'm a Bucks fan No I mean Jets Are you Giants or Jets If I'm your Bucs, 02:38:33.137 --> 02:38:37.457 I'm so I was born in New York, but I grew up in Tampa. So I'm a Bucs fan. 02:38:37.617 --> 02:38:40.497 OK, the rest of my well, I say the rest of my family. 02:38:40.617 --> 02:38:46.957 So my uncle has he's had season tickets to the Jets since as long as he's I've 02:38:46.957 --> 02:38:54.237 known him and he only did that because my grandparents, his parents were Jets fan or Giants fan. 02:38:54.377 --> 02:38:57.537 So he wanted to be the the outlier. So he became a Jets fan. 02:38:58.779 --> 02:39:05.099 Had to pick, I would say Jets fan, just because I've been more Jets games than Giants games. 02:39:05.579 --> 02:39:12.639 My argument against the Giants fans who obviously have two Super Bowl rings 02:39:12.639 --> 02:39:15.459 over the New England Patriots, right? 02:39:16.739 --> 02:39:21.839 I got one of the hats. I should have wore it. I got the one where Eli went fucking apeshit. 02:39:22.099 --> 02:39:25.579 You know what I always tell Giants fans? 02:39:26.159 --> 02:39:29.239 Yes. You have your two rings I have 02:39:29.239 --> 02:39:32.639 to respect it However New England 02:39:32.639 --> 02:39:39.499 Patriots Never bench Tom Brady You disrespectful motherfuckers Bench Eli Manning 02:39:39.499 --> 02:39:45.659 for Daniel Jones You're fucking The one man that fucking Beat the GOAT twice 02:39:45.659 --> 02:39:52.199 You're gonna fucking sit him on the bench You guys are disrespectful You do not appreciate, 02:39:53.059 --> 02:39:58.299 So First off Brady went to Michigan and I cannot stand Michigan. 02:39:59.739 --> 02:40:05.779 And then he went to the Patriots. And like I said, I don't like Patriots. I don't like the Red Sox. 02:40:05.999 --> 02:40:09.419 I don't like... But you like the Bucs and you know that's one of our rules. So... 02:40:11.372 --> 02:40:16.312 I couldn't stand Brady, but at the same time, I respected the fuck out of him. Yeah. He was one. 02:40:16.992 --> 02:40:21.032 Oh, I'd say one of the greatest. He is one of the greatest quarterbacks. 02:40:21.352 --> 02:40:22.412 He's the greatest person. It's okay to say. 02:40:23.032 --> 02:40:26.692 I hated him when he was on the with me. Well, he didn't really. 02:40:26.872 --> 02:40:30.232 It was Michigan. He didn't play too much, but I hated him there. 02:40:30.352 --> 02:40:33.192 I hated him when he was with the Pats. 02:40:33.332 --> 02:40:39.652 But as soon as he signed with the Bucs, I'd be lying to you if I wasn't looking for a jersey. 02:40:40.312 --> 02:40:43.492 Bro what are you talking about all of us new england patriots 02:40:43.492 --> 02:40:47.712 man we're like i need a bucks jersey number 12 02:40:47.712 --> 02:40:50.812 on it i hated watching him play but at the same time i respected the 02:40:50.812 --> 02:40:54.272 fuck out of him and then when he came down here and because 02:40:54.272 --> 02:40:57.252 you know your local news or or whatever 02:40:57.252 --> 02:41:00.632 they show different parts of it or or the organization show 02:41:00.632 --> 02:41:04.092 you could see like what kind of person he was this 02:41:04.092 --> 02:41:06.972 yeah he he was the probably one 02:41:06.972 --> 02:41:10.152 of the most humble people in the fucking world and yeah 02:41:10.152 --> 02:41:13.092 and after winning that championship getting drunk as fuck off 02:41:13.092 --> 02:41:15.872 of of avocado vodka or whatever the fuck he was 02:41:15.872 --> 02:41:19.172 drinking at the time throwing the throwing the lombardi trophy 02:41:19.172 --> 02:41:22.172 from boat to boat boat those were 02:41:22.172 --> 02:41:25.432 his like that was his prime in my mind because 02:41:25.432 --> 02:41:28.092 as a person because his kids were a little bit 02:41:28.092 --> 02:41:30.892 older so he he kind of let loose a little bit i feel 02:41:30.892 --> 02:41:33.632 like he's a good father and he was reserved when they were 02:41:33.632 --> 02:41:36.772 younger you know he was forced at 02:41:36.772 --> 02:41:41.692 this point and he was just like i'm i'm 40 i'm gonna have the fucking fun yeah 02:41:41.692 --> 02:41:46.952 no that was it was definitely trophies around in the fucking river and it's 02:41:46.952 --> 02:41:51.712 funny because like i said like all of us who i'm telling you there had to be 02:41:51.712 --> 02:41:55.892 99 of us that when we saw brady win that. 02:41:56.473 --> 02:41:59.393 Were all celebrating and like fuck yeah like 02:41:59.393 --> 02:42:02.553 we were all you're in this area there's a 02:42:02.553 --> 02:42:06.273 bunch of people from boston and massachusetts from in jacksonville 02:42:06.273 --> 02:42:10.573 and clay county area like i don't know what it is but there's a bunch of people 02:42:10.573 --> 02:42:16.433 from that area down here whether they're they're patriots fans or or are boston 02:42:16.433 --> 02:42:23.693 or most of them are patriots fans celtics fans and and red sox fans and Bruins fans, 02:42:23.933 --> 02:42:26.333 so they obviously, they're annoying as fuck. 02:42:26.733 --> 02:42:31.173 But as soon as Brady signed, they were like, all right, I'll root for the Bucs. 02:42:31.193 --> 02:42:33.093 That's my second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm rooting for the Bucs. 02:42:33.173 --> 02:42:36.233 This year, I'll root for the Bucs. But yeah, it was one of those things like, 02:42:36.433 --> 02:42:37.653 I was like, fuck this motherfucker. 02:42:37.813 --> 02:42:40.033 I respect the shit out of him because he's good, but fuck him. 02:42:40.033 --> 02:42:40.973 And then he signed, I was like. 02:42:43.987 --> 02:42:47.887 Maybe I'll look for a jersey And I was just, 02:42:48.507 --> 02:42:54.267 I'd be lying if I wasn't ecstatic When he signed That team 02:42:54.267 --> 02:42:59.127 was crazy And you guys got another Great version of Brady It's not like you 02:42:59.127 --> 02:43:02.307 know how sometimes When these cats sign to other teams They're all of a sudden 02:43:02.307 --> 02:43:08.027 the washed up version You guys got another great version of Brady Which obviously 02:43:08.027 --> 02:43:13.427 got to the fucking ring So that was super dope but I'm a, I gotta, I gotta get ready. 02:43:14.127 --> 02:43:18.067 So yeah. You want to tell us where you can find you guys and your cigars and 02:43:18.067 --> 02:43:19.607 everything plugged? Yeah, absolutely. 02:43:19.947 --> 02:43:23.347 So our website is Montedeleoncigars.com. 02:43:23.787 --> 02:43:29.147 You could find us on Instagram at Montedeleoncigars. You can also find us on 02:43:29.147 --> 02:43:31.347 Facebook at Montedeleoncigars. 02:43:31.487 --> 02:43:34.307 You know, that's pretty much how you find us. 02:43:34.427 --> 02:43:37.947 You know, you look forward to when we come down to events, you know, 02:43:38.067 --> 02:43:41.407 like I said, on November 16th, we're going to be, At Seminole, 02:43:41.467 --> 02:43:46.967 Harley Davidson set up out there, good times for a Harley type of event. 02:43:47.487 --> 02:43:50.967 We're also going to be at the Heritage Cigar Festival in Tampa. 02:43:51.747 --> 02:43:56.087 And, you know, if you want to order cigars from us, we could ship cigars wherever 02:43:56.087 --> 02:43:59.187 you are, regardless of where you are in the world. 02:43:59.347 --> 02:44:03.707 Trust me, we'll fit for like we'll figure that shit out real quick on how to do it. 02:44:03.807 --> 02:44:08.747 But I think that's pretty much it as far as, you know, where to find us. 02:44:08.747 --> 02:44:12.587 And then if you also want to book us for private events, you know, 02:44:12.707 --> 02:44:14.207 we also, you can go on our website. 02:44:14.487 --> 02:44:20.787 You'll see all those, that information on our website. But yeah, that's pretty much it. 02:44:21.780 --> 02:44:25.900 That was going to be my next question is ordering on your website, but you got that. 02:44:26.080 --> 02:44:29.380 So, yeah, we don't want to take up. We've already spent, what, 02:44:29.700 --> 02:44:33.220 two and a half, almost three hours with you. It was fun, though. It was fun. 02:44:33.360 --> 02:44:37.260 Even with my fucking hiccups with the phone. I know people are like, what the fuck? 02:44:38.140 --> 02:44:41.340 Technology is fucked, but we want to thank you for joining us. 02:44:41.480 --> 02:44:44.900 If you need to head out, go ahead, head out, and me and Paul will put to it. 02:44:44.900 --> 02:44:46.920 Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. 02:44:47.160 --> 02:44:50.640 Again, and thank you, Tenth Mountain Whiskey, for this great whiskey. 02:44:50.640 --> 02:44:54.400 I'm going to keep sipping on this as I go into the house and get ready to eat first. 02:44:54.800 --> 02:45:00.900 And I'll send you a text with the Bain Blends for that festival you're going to. 02:45:01.060 --> 02:45:05.280 And then I'll talk with Brian from 10th Mountain. And we'll get you guys in 02:45:05.280 --> 02:45:06.240 contact with each other. 02:45:06.420 --> 02:45:10.980 So for that Marines one, we'll get all that. All right. Sounds good. 02:45:11.380 --> 02:45:14.900 But thank you for joining us. It was a great time. Great smoke. 02:45:15.180 --> 02:45:15.800 Appreciate it, gentlemen. 02:45:16.300 --> 02:45:19.000 You guys take care. Take it easy, man. Thank you. All right. I'll. 02:45:19.940 --> 02:45:24.120 So, yeah. Unless you got anything, Paul. I think that wraps it up for another 02:45:24.120 --> 02:45:26.040 episode of Bourbon Beards and Belvederes. 02:45:26.820 --> 02:45:31.920 Yeah, good one. Great smokes. Like I said, I had two from him today. 02:45:32.260 --> 02:45:34.320 I've had a few from him over the years. 02:45:35.560 --> 02:45:40.520 Yeah. And like Charlie Mike enough where I'm like, that was a good one. 02:45:40.920 --> 02:45:43.860 I'm going to have to grab some more. Like he said, you can go on his website, 02:45:44.000 --> 02:45:50.460 which I'll post the websites on a little infograph during this episode. So you'll see it. 02:45:50.640 --> 02:45:54.260 Uh, you go on his website, order anything. You could also find 10th mountain 02:45:54.260 --> 02:45:59.540 at 10th whiskey.com, which is one zero T H whiskey with an E.com. 02:45:59.920 --> 02:46:04.200 And then, uh, the beard products was bearded. 02:46:04.240 --> 02:46:11.040 That is all that's that bearded bearded with B E A R D E D USA.com. 02:46:11.180 --> 02:46:13.740 You can find them there. Great products. Um. 02:46:14.597 --> 02:46:17.657 That's that's that's all the the plugs 02:46:17.657 --> 02:46:20.517 that we got to throw out there also be on the lookout 02:46:20.517 --> 02:46:23.537 like i said when this when this episode actually 02:46:23.537 --> 02:46:26.177 gets posted the giveaway will already be out so take a look 02:46:26.177 --> 02:46:29.017 for that giveaway i'll uh pin that to 02:46:29.017 --> 02:46:31.757 our instagram page so you can just go to instagram it'll be 02:46:31.757 --> 02:46:35.057 our first pin post you could uh go there 02:46:35.057 --> 02:46:39.777 and like i said main thing is you got to donate doesn't matter like yes we want 02:46:39.777 --> 02:46:44.777 you to like follow subscribe tag people and all the that good shit the main 02:46:44.777 --> 02:46:49.337 thing is you got to donate to a veteran or military charity otherwise you won't 02:46:49.337 --> 02:46:54.817 be entered all the other ones are just extra entries and once i figure out the, 02:46:55.397 --> 02:46:59.417 give or once i figure out the charity for bryce 02:46:59.417 --> 02:47:02.637 over at silent hero cigars you'll get double entries 02:47:02.637 --> 02:47:05.457 for that if you donate to that charity for the 02:47:05.457 --> 02:47:09.257 service dogs so be on the lookout for that take a look for that one do all the 02:47:09.257 --> 02:47:13.877 things hopefully we'll get these products out to one of you guys this time because 02:47:13.877 --> 02:47:19.037 last time it failed and it's taking room up in my area and I know that humidor 02:47:19.037 --> 02:47:24.477 is taking room up in Adam's bar so we want to get that out to you guys and then these, like I said, 02:47:24.577 --> 02:47:29.297 these cigars are fantastic and he offered to throw in an extra five cigars for you guys so. 02:47:30.477 --> 02:47:34.917 Definitely do the right thing and donate to a veteran's charity so we get these 02:47:34.917 --> 02:47:38.117 out to one of you guys and then you got anything else to throw out there? 02:47:39.017 --> 02:47:44.997 I think that wraps up another episode of bourbon beers and velveteers until next time cheers. 02:48:34.392 --> 02:48:37.212 Bourbon Beards and Belvedere is produced by Adam Bolden, Paul Rousseau, 02:48:37.552 --> 02:48:41.292 and Jerry Ullman. Edited by Jerry Ullman. Music by Ryan Johnson. 02:48:41.612 --> 02:48:45.292 You can find all of our links on our website at bourbonbeardsandbelvedere.com 02:48:45.292 --> 02:48:49.652 and at beacons.ai forward slash bourbonbeardsandbelvedere. 02:48:49.792 --> 02:48:53.252 As always, enjoy your bourbon and cigars responsibly. Cheers.

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