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Welcome to your go-to source for entertainment.
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Wait for it? Gaming. Wait for it Anime PLUS ULTRA. Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino yeah, they've got you covered.
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And all you gotta do is wait for it.
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This is the Wait For it Podcast.
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Hello everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast.
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I am your co-host, phil Smith, aka Phil the Filipino, and joining me, as always, is your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, aka Phil the Filipino, and joining me, as always, is your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and Eric.
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We are here with the May edition, our bonus episode, monthly bonus episode of what Did I Miss, and super excited to keep this series going, and May just so happens to have been an incredibly busy month when it comes to pop culture. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a little crossover with some of our stories, just because there have been some pretty big ones that I think, like probably are, have been on on our minds. So a little bit of a smaller audience than we usually have. Instead of four people, we do have three, including you and myself, but nonetheless it is going to be a lot of fun as we bring in just one of our favorite guests to have, who is going to be buying our dinner in about a month at Bold Matz 3. Check out the pre-show. He said it Isn't that right, eric. So excited to talk about all things pop culture here from the month of May.
Speaker 1:
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Yeah, the pre-show was talks of dinner, wedding, officiating and so much more. So when we plug Patreon at the end you got to sign up for it, but we're not there yet. We're here to talk about the month of May, phil, this is another example for new listeners. This is actually why we wanted to do this series in the first place, and if you are a recurring listener, you know we've had a couple different iterations of this episode and that's why, for a third time time, we brought it back to life and we really wanted to discuss it. A really casual episode with friends and, of course, our friend Ivan, aka Ivan Patch, has joined us to talk a little bit of pop culture. Ivan, how are you doing? Are you excited? I know you had a fun weekend at the convention. How are you doing doing? Are you excited? I?
Speaker 2:
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know you had a fun weekend at the convention. How are you doing? I am very, very exhausted. Uh, and hello everyone. I said hello weird, like you did earlier yeah, that's just normal.
Speaker 1:
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Hello, you sound like mrs doubtfire. Oh man, you did sound like mrs doubtfire that's true now that is how you sounded.
Speaker 2:
2:41
I will, I will, yeah yeah, no, um, I'm exhausted, honestly. Uh, I don't sleep during cons, so when I get back it's like the first day I get back. It's just knock like knocking out. But I couldn't do that because I had erin's room yesterday. So I'm exhausted and my voice is slightly returning. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3:
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Let's definitely shout out ivan who, who went on voice rest and drank a lot of tea to get ready for this episode. That's how important it was to be here on this episode of what Did I Miss.
Speaker 3:
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But yeah, eric, like you mentioned, you know this has just been a lot of fun to get to hang out with friends, have some really casual conversations and play a game that Eric will ultimately lose. So it has been a really fun time and I don't. Well, this month will be interesting because I tried again, I've taken feedback and tried to make this game a little bit more fair. I have some categories, too, that are brand new. So I think it's going to be. It's going to be fun. So we will see how all of that goes.
Speaker 3:
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But, ivan, yeah, glad to hear OtakuFest was a lot of fun, you know goes. But uh, ivan, yeah, glad to hear otaku fest was a lot of fun. You know you have some big conventions coming up. We'll let you talk about all that, uh, come the end of the episode. But we want to jump into our stories here. But, eric, as with every single month and with every single episode of what did I miss, there is a very important part of this episode that you have this way. I have bestowed the honor of you being in charge of um, mostly because it's been incredibly frustrating for you, so so I would like you to explain to ivan this, this next part, as we find out the order in which we will tell our stories here this this month yeah, and you know it's four people, so there's really still not a need for this, but we do it anyway.
Speaker 1:
4:24
So three people, still not a need. But here we are. We need to make a decision, ivan. Who's going to go first, who's going to go next, who's going to go last? And could we make that decision as adults, we could, but we have a wheel here instead, and this wheel is going to help us determine that. Now you may be wondering why are there instructions? It should just be simple spin that wheel. Well, I'll tell you, ivan.
Speaker 3:
4:48
so we are going his name is jay davis and he hosts super bracket pros we are going to spin that wheel, but we have to say it first.
Speaker 1:
5:00
So, ivan, I'm gonna count down. This is your instruction. We're not doing it yet, but'm going to count down. This is your instruction. We're not doing it yet, but I'm going to count down three, two, one, and in that cadence we're going to say spin that wheel. And we're going to try to say it at the same time, to varying results. Do you have any questions? Concerns opinions or theories.
Speaker 2:
5:24
No, the wheel is super necessary. I don't see any reason why not to use it. You know instructions are necessary, you know. Let's just. You know the wheel is necessary. It makes the whole thing yeah that's good.
Speaker 1:
5:36
It actually probably is your fault. We had so many technical issues because you kept attacking the wheel no, I didn't you did. You said it was not necessary in the no I I asked no, no.
Speaker 2:
5:46
I said I don't know why it's not. I didn't say it wasn't. I said I don't know why it is so I was needing you to now. You know you were illuminate. You needed to illuminate me. Now you know why illumination illumination under the sea.
Speaker 1:
5:57
okay, there's a lot of, there's a lot of deep cuts happening right now between restarting this recording, like 70 times. So we're going to spin that wheel, recap three, two, one, spin that wheel and we are going to do that now. So ready, three two.
Speaker 3:
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Oh no, I didn't turn the sound off. You guys are going to hear the spin. You know what's funny.
Speaker 2:
6:24
We had the very first time that, when we started this.
Speaker 3:
6:26
When we started, I turned off the sound, but now I'm so flustered because of the technical issues I I totally forgot.
Speaker 1:
6:33
Well, yeah, you just said oh no, so I thought that you stopped recording me too for the 50th time. I hate this. It's okay. What's wrong with the?
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sound.
Speaker 1:
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It's pretty loud you'll hear don't worry, we're already there, we're already there, we're going to just go for it. Three, two, one Spin that wheel.
Speaker 2:
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I say I talk faster than other people. I'm sorry, I should have slowed down.
Speaker 1:
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Of course I'm fucking first dude.
Speaker 2:
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All right, that sounded beautiful all right, eric is up first thank god it was remove all instances.
Speaker 1:
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There we go, that fixed the blue, blue eric so next time it comes up I saw that blue blue right. I didn't want to say anything, but I am. It irritated me too Frustrated.
Speaker 3:
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All right, eric, tell everybody, and as well as Ivan and myself, what did we miss in May?
Speaker 1:
7:32
Yeah, so in May. I think it's funny that we kind of keep talking about like Marvel related stuff, but I just find it so fascinating the downfall of Marvel since Endgame and Disney's finally kind of acknowledging that. So there was. It started off with this Agatha all along thing that was going on, where Agatha the show had like 20 different titles. Everybody was making fun of it and it was apparently all along going to be called that. So that was like okay, I don't know how I'm feeling about this.
Speaker 1:
8:05
Now marvel has come out and said that they are going to break up some of the divisions. So, for example, they are bringing back the marvel television banner to help fans understand that they can jump in anywhere. And this comes from a quote. Speaking to comicbookcom, marvel Studios head of TV streaming and animation, brad Winterbaum, said Endgame maybe caused fans to feel obligated to watch everything in order to keep up with the MCU stories. And I think it's just really kind of interesting that the maybe comment is thrown out there, the fact that this has been like the number one criticism for Marvel.
Speaker 1:
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Apparently they're going to break up Marvel television, animation, movies etc. And they're going to have separated stories, kind of like how X-Men 97 has come out of nowhere and people love it, so I want to throw this question to you guys. Ivan, I'll give it to you first. What are your thoughts about that approach and, whether or not you're in the marvel umbrella like me and phil have been heavily removed recently. What are your thoughts about them doing separate stories and it not being a part of this larger universe that they're now infamously known for?
Speaker 2:
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so, okay, I had do have a hot take. So I feel like, well, okay, first off, before I say this, I, I have, I'm still under the marvel umbrella, so to speak. I think I'm like slightly tipping out of it, so I'm getting a little wet with the rain, but I, I, I don't mind this approach. I think that they need to make some separate stories, because I do feel that there was too much to keep up with and I was keeping up with all of it from day one up until we got like a plethora of TV series within the same year and I just couldn't keep up with it anymore. But I do like when everything was cohesive, I mean, I really do Like, I like to connect the stories and stuff.
Speaker 2:
10:08
But then again, there were a lot of movies that they may have been connected, but they were still slightly isolated, they only slightly connected to the rest of it. So like if you missed a movie, it wasn't that big of a deal, whereas now, the way they were making them, it's like every movie seemed to be like important, and it may not seem important at the moment, but like later on, when it goes on, it's going to be like connected and it's like, oh, that did matter and that's cool and everything, because I love that kind of stuff. But I'm sorry, when you're pumping out like eight tv shows in the year and then like six other movies, I, I can't keep up. Okay, I'm sorry. Like I feel like an average american. Whatever person, whatever in the world, can't really do that, especially if you work, have kids, whatever. I mean that's like it's too much.
Speaker 2:
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But I don't mind the separated story idea. Um, a connected universe is not always the way to go. Uh, I mean, as much as I love dc comics look at dc but, um, you know, so I, I I'm kind of fine with it. Uh, I would like to see where they go. I also didn't hate every project that came out after endgame, like a lot of people do, but you know, I also lowered the bar because marvel wasn't doing everything I wanted it to do from the get-go anyway. So I just feel like everyone's just getting at where I was at in 2011. So, but yeah, I don't know, that's not.
Speaker 1:
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I felt aggressive and I apologize no, no, I mean that's that's a fair take to have. I definitely agree that Marvel has had a couple of pretty good hits since Endgame, like I definitely think people forget about them because there are so many misses. And, phil, I think a lot of those misses we've been very vocal on has been on the television side. So the fact that they're going to kind of separate the two there's even talks about, for I think the rumor is that the shows won't even start with the iconic Marvel imagery, the logo and the way that we see it in the movies, to show audiences like, hey, this is different, you don't have to see this to watch the next movie or vice versa. So, phil, what are your thoughts on kind of this move by Marvel again trying to rebrand to audiences that they can jump in anywhere? Do you like it? Do you think it's a good idea? Would it get you back in to being an advent watcher? Where do you sit with this?
Speaker 3:
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It's definitely a good idea. It's just crazy that, like they couldn't figure this out a long time ago, like you didn't think that flooding the market with content, no matter how good it is, like you just get tired of it, like you eventually get tired of it, and there's so many characters. Eventually there's going to be something that you just simply do not care about. Like we didn't watch secret wars, we didn't watch um echo, that is. That came out right.
Speaker 1:
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Echo came out right we had invasion came out and then secret invasion, echo came out. Yeah, secret.
Speaker 3:
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Uh, yeah, yeah. And then there was another one that came out. I think that we skipped. That I'm maybe not thinking about, I think it is.
Speaker 1:
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I think you're thinking of Echo. They also did.
Speaker 3:
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Maybe it's just those two.
Speaker 1:
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Yeah, because the shows that are coming up are Agatha, daredevil and Ironheart, which we thought was dead in the water.
Speaker 3:
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Yeah, and I'm excited for Iron heart to a degree, but also I don't want to I don't necessarily have like the a lot, a whole lot of anticipation to watch six to eight episodes of that specific character. You know what I mean. She already has her armor. So, like, what are we really building up towards in that show, unless it's going to have like, uh, you know, shuri in it and and okoye and all those characters, so, um, that's probably something they should have scrapped, I hate to say. But yeah, I mean, when you flooded the market with a bunch of shows that were pretty subpar and mixed, and that's one thing too about the marvel shows.
Speaker 3:
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Eric is, I don't know, maybe outside of wandavision, I don't know, maybe outside of WandaVision. I don't think there is a consensus list that everybody has, like, I think, for the top maybe five to seven Marvel movies. A lot of people can come to an agreement with that. Right, I think there is a pretty cohesive list that people can can come to terms with. But with TV shows like I, you know, we loved Moon Knight. Some people hate Moon Knight, didn't really enjoy um, falcon and the Winter Soldier too much. Some people have it as their top rated show like Loki season one is beloved by people, so like we, the.
Speaker 1:
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Marvel show we are. We are looks like Loki haters. We hate right. And then the Loki show.
Speaker 3:
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But people love that show you know I really enjoyed season two. You, you not so much, but like, the rankings for these are all over the place. So you know I really enjoyed season two, you, you not so much, but like, the rankings for these are all over the place. So you know it's separate from from the movies, but but also we got to end game without tv shows. So, like you know, I don't know what they were necessarily thinking and and now they're paying the price for it. So it's good that they're scaling back. But it does seem they scaled back on the number of episodes for daredevil, which pisses me off, cause it was supposed to be like 18 and now it's what? Nine or something like.
Speaker 1:
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It's like listen, it's definitely not as many. It's definitely a whole different show too, cause of the amount of reshoots and retakes that it uh, it went through. It's also like you know you say that, but then like it is a continuation of the Netflix one, essentially. And there are there are days where I think I forgot if I saw the last season of Daredevil, so like I might have to go revisit that.
Speaker 2:
15:33
I'm pretty sure I saw it.
Speaker 1:
15:36
I'm pretty sure I saw it, but it's just not.
Speaker 3:
15:38
Well, the Defenders was so bad that, like all of that is a blur.
Speaker 2:
15:41
See, I didn't hate the Defenders.
Speaker 3:
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But see, that's another thing Also, Iron Fist was not good.
Speaker 2:
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Second season was better.
Speaker 3:
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So it all blended together towards the end.
Speaker 2:
15:53
But that's the thing right there. I don't want Marvel to go so backwards in the sense that, like they made those shows and they were like oh, it's connected, so in the show they'll mention, they'll mention oh, the big green guy, or that's how they reference people, but it didn't ultimately, yeah, like it didn't actually connect to anything like it.
Speaker 3:
16:13
it's like those shows were there, but they weren't really there like it was, and remember maybe their best show, agents of shield, barely talks about the mcu. Like, yeah, we got lady sif and we got like the fallout from, uh, captain america winter soldier and then it was its own thing and it's excellent.
Speaker 2:
16:34
So, yeah, like I just I don't know, I just get a little. I I mean I also gonna say this is where people are gonna burn me. But I also think that people's patience is too like thin, in the sense of when we got to Endgame, that was like a decade of preparation to get to this, like big story arc, and I don't feel like everyone's really giving the new ones a try. Granted, there's too many shows. I mean, jesus Christ, there's too many shows. I mean jesus christ, there's too many shows.
Speaker 3:
17:09
But I just feel like with the movies, the next end game now, yeah, I mean honestly.
Speaker 2:
17:13
that's why, like when eternals came out, they thought it was going to be an avengers level threat, an avengers type movie, and I, as much as I know how people feel about that movie, I don't think it was as bad as they make it seem like it is. They made it seem like it was the worst thing ever. Same with oh God, I can't think of the other one. There's another one everybody hates so much and I'm like I don't think it was that bad, I mean I don't love it.
Speaker 2:
17:33
Which one is it? The Marvels?
Speaker 3:
17:39
The Marvels? No, I liked that one. I actually liked it. She steals the movie.
Speaker 2:
17:43
She's incredible, she's a queen.
Speaker 3:
17:46
Did you see recently? I'm totally derailing this conversation. I don't know if you saw this, but this is such a brilliant interview tactic. On the red carpet, her and, I think, a co-star from another show that she's in, eric. They played Wordle, the one with the button, and they did an anime and they played it on the red carpet.
Speaker 2:
18:05
I was like that's so smart, what?
Speaker 3:
18:07
a? Yeah, I saw it. Yeah, so she's an anime girly as well.
Speaker 2:
18:09
What I know, I was the best I love her and she stole the show and I was fine with it. I was a girl. Take over, take over, like. So I mean I just, but but I do think people want the next like big twist, cliffhanger thing already and I I'm like don't you remember how long it took for us to get that? So I mean, I don't know, I feel like we need to have a little more patience and I think Marvel needs to, not like. I think I feel like they were trying to like slowly get that started, but also slightly cram it in as fast as possible too, like I feel like they couldn't find a middle ground and that's where they're falling and you know, like to mention, you know all those shows, but um, and and they gave.
Speaker 3:
18:50
They gave us Kang right away, when we barely saw Thanos in the course of a decade.
Speaker 2:
18:54
Yeah, it's like they wanted. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:
18:57
Yeah, I was going to say I play the long game with Kang, but I do agree. Like it. It. It started to become the focus and then, unfortunately, it's like one domino out of all of them, like everything that happened with Jonathan majors, like if it's not one thing it's another with the MCU right now, yeah, and it.
Speaker 2:
19:16
I will be honest, it does suck, for I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to take it personal at this part, because I love Kang. He's one of my favorite villains in the comics. So, like when they were when because I didn't love loki season one, I thought it was fine, or whatever.
Speaker 2:
19:29
Everyone was like talking it up a lot and maybe I'm really good at like ignoring hype, but I think it got to me a little bit for that one and I would me and my husband were behind and when we got into, we're like okay, this is cool, you know whatever. But then we got to the last. We got into it. We're like, okay, this is cool, you know whatever. But then we got to the last, we got to whatever episode it was that you can see, like the statues around the TVA or whatever it's called, and I'm like, wait a second, why does that look like Kang to me? And I told my husband, yo, that's Kang.
Speaker 2:
19:53
And he's like are you serious? And I swear to god it is, I swear. And then we got to give like I think Kang was going to be around so early because you were going to get a different version of him every time, and I do think the same problem would have happened with that, where they flooding the market with this one villain and I think even before we got to like the big climax of him, it would have been slightly annoying either way. So but it does suck, because now everything that happens with jonathan major is like, oh well, we're gonna reroute, and I'm like, damn it, you're taking away the one villain I wanted.
Speaker 1:
20:34
Like, don't do this to me, but you know, yeah, I, I think, uh, I think it's tough and you know bob eiger did acknowledge that. You know it's diluted focus and attention. So I mean, disney has already made it clear no more than three movies, no more than two shows a year is pretty much like the, the kind of area they're trying to stick to. But you know some of the damage has already been done. Ivan, I do agree that some people are a little impatient, specifically with like properties like x-men in live action and fantastic four. But it's hard to argue these numbers uh, off of this ign article. While the original phase one lasted just 12 hours and 24 minutes, phase four lasted 54 hours and 40 minutes between the shows and the movies. So, like you, you know it's a lot, but like when you hear those numbers, it's staggering but that's the thing.
Speaker 2:
21:28
The I'm gonna go reference the shows here, the shows I they do. So much exposition that's unnecessary, that it's like why are you filling in the time? Like it's because they want to make this, they want to justify making the shows versus making a movie and, like some of the most of the shows and I've heard this argument before most of the shows just feel like long ass movies for no reason. Like so many things can be cut in these shows and just make it into a movie. One movie and it'd be fine and somehow it doesn't feel.
Speaker 1:
22:00
Phil, we've talked about this not enough.
Speaker 3:
22:02
Somehow it doesn't feel like it's enough, like we've criticized this six to eight episode order.
Speaker 1:
22:06
Yeah, and we're like, how do? How did nothing happen?
Speaker 2:
22:09
because so much exposition of nothing happens. Yeah, it's like. It's like they have to talk about their feelings versus showing it, and I'm like marvel is definitely in a rut.
Speaker 1:
22:22
I think it's the the fun thing to do is shit on Marvel these days. But realistically, I brought it up as a conversation point just for what we talked about. I just think it's extremely interesting to kind of see all the ways looking back on it now. I think we have time now and it's been enough time. We can look back at where those mistakes were made and hopefully they can recover, because I do love the marvel property but I don't know. It's something's got to change.
Speaker 2:
22:49
Hopefully this is the change we're looking for as a an audience no, I agree it had change needed, but I also just think that I was the one before being like yo, marvel's not perfect, everyone needs to calm down. And then, all of a sudden, everyone's like oh god, marvel's not perfect, they need needs to calm down. And then all of a sudden, everyone's like oh God, marvel's not perfect, they need to calm down. And I'm like oh okay, I didn't say that eight years ago, you heard it here first.
Speaker 3:
23:11
All I'm hearing is that the Monsterverse is the top tier cinematic universe in all the films right now and then trailing it is probably Planet of the Apes, because they are going to interconnect those franchises. I don't know how they're going to do it.
Speaker 1:
23:25
They're going to bring them all together.
Speaker 3:
23:26
We're going to get Mark Wahlberg in one of these movies. It's going to happen.
Speaker 1:
23:30
No, I don't want this, though. You're the reason we're getting Transformers and GI Joe together. We are getting them.
Speaker 3:
23:35
You're the reason there's a line and it stops. I don't watch the trance. I do want to see the animated one. It looks kind of funny, but I'll probably watch it on streaming.
Speaker 1:
23:45
We talked about this. I probably wouldn't watch it. Transformers, fast and the Furious dude Come on.
Speaker 3:
23:49
No, that should have happened, or what about that?
Speaker 2:
23:53
is unacceptable.
Speaker 3:
23:54
I wouldn't, because they almost did Again, we're way off track now, but they almost did. The Men, uh, crossover, I'd like men in black transformers, like put that together. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:
24:04
there's, there's room here to there's listen, hot take at men in black is a pristine franchise I love, not the remake or not, the new one they tried to ruin it, yeah, yeah, they tried to ruin it with the international one I didn't see that one.
Speaker 3:
24:19
I didn't yeah the one with chris hemsworth, and, uh, thompson, thompson, yeah, no, no, but listen, men in black. Three slept on, slept on, I don't care who's.
Speaker 1:
24:23
Yeah, the one with Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson. Tessa Thompson, yeah, no, no, but listen. Men in Black 3. Slept on, slept on. I don't care who's listening.
Speaker 2:
24:30
You know, I don't think I actually saw Men in Black 3. I don't think I ever heard of it. I can't tell you anything about it. I've seen it, it's decent.
Speaker 3:
24:36
1 and 2 are just so strong, it's decent Anyway. Eric, I think it's time to revisit.
Speaker 1:
24:47
Yeah, we're going to try it again Now. Ivan, are you still feeling that the instructions are unnecessary?
Speaker 2:
24:53
I mean no, I guess they're very necessary. Can you guys see the wheel?
Speaker 1:
24:57
okay, yes, yeah, we can see the wheel All right. Again, you may be asking yourself there's two people. Why can't we just decide? Well, we have a wheel for that and that's just where we are. So we're going to try again and we're going to count down and we're going to do it in that cadence. So ready Three.
Speaker 3:
25:19
Why am I saying three, two?
Speaker 1:
25:23
One Spin that. One Spin that wheel. That was pretty good. I give it an A for effort. Yay, all right, it's going in his five stories for last. Yeah, that's right, it's going in his five stories for last. It's going in, yeah that's right.
Speaker 3:
25:45
It's going in reverse order. Uh, this month, usually, it's you and me that go last, isn't it, eric?
Speaker 1:
25:51
uh, so, yeah, well, this is also like an alternate reality, where we've recorded like five.
Speaker 3:
25:55
There's five different sessions where I'm gonna have to edit them all. So that's, that's okay. So, yeah, I had a um again. There were quite a a few to choose from this month, so I'm excited also when we get to the the didn't make the cut section, but I'm going to go with this one because it came up at the end of the month and we're all gamers here, so I felt like it was a worthwhile topic where Microsoft closes Redfall developer Arcane, austin, hi-fi Rush developer Tango Gameworks and more in devastating cuts at Bethesda.
Speaker 3:
26:27
Microsoft has closed a number of Bethesda studios, including Redfall maker Arcane Austin, hi-fi Rush and the evil within developer Tango Gameworks and more in devastating cuts at Bethesda. Igm has confirmed AlphaDog Games, maker of the mobile game Mighty Doom, will also close. Roundhouse Studios will be absorbed by the Elder Scrolls Online developer, zenimax Online Studios. Microsoft, currently valued at over $3 trillion, did not say how many staff will lose their jobs, but significant layoffs are inevitable. Ign has asked Bethesda for comment. Microsoft declined to expand further when contacted by. Ign has asked Bethesda for comment. Microsoft declined to expand further when contacted by IGN. On Redfall, the disastrous vampire co-op game will now not receive promised updates, including an offline mode and a new character DLC as Microsoft has ended all development on the game. Microsoft said Redfall will remain online to play and will provide a make-good offer for those who bought the Hero DLC. Arcane Lion, which is working on Marvel's Blade, survives the call, as does Bethesda Games Studios, and the Doom developer, id Software, was also left unaffected. There's been a whole bunch of information because this happened at the very beginning of the month, so there's been a lot of information that has come out over the last few weeks. Again, as mentioned in there, microsoft ain't hurting for money. Okay, they're making. Their profits are up. They're actually doing very, very well.
Speaker 3:
27:53
The thing with Arcane Austin that I know upset a lot of people, eric, is, you know, of course, redfall absolute disaster. Ivan, I don't know how familiar you were with the Redfall release or anything like that, but you know Arcane Austin released a couple of games Very, very popular. The remake of Prey that came out a couple of years ago is now a huge, like cult classic upon revisit. People love that game. Of course, the Dishonored series, which is very, very popular, dishonored series, which is very, very popular.
Speaker 3:
28:26
And then you know I don't know if it was Bethesda or who it was told them essentially to make this Redfall vampire shooter. You know games as a service game. It was a total disaster. It was a game they did not want to work on. I actually went this is one of my YouTube rabbit holes that I went on recently, eric, you know they Arcane Austin was posting job listings for an untitled project.
Speaker 3:
28:43
And you know they, arcane Austin was posting job listings for an untitled project and you know people are excited. They're like, oh, maybe I'll get to work in a new Prey or a Dishonored game or something that I love, and it ends up being Redfall and people are leaving in droves. You know, throughout the course of that project and it's just a real bummer, hi-fi Rush even though I didn't really enjoy it too much like huge success for Microsoft as well. So there's a lot of discussion that Microsoft may be going in a different direction, because you know there's also a little bit of I wouldn't say controversy, but like discussion around their game that released today. In terms of what's the game that came out today? I have it on my Helena helena's uh, god help, oh my god, hellblade 2 um hellblade 2.
Speaker 1:
29:29
Yeah, that came out today.
Speaker 3:
29:30
There's been a lot of discussion about that. Even though it's getting good reviews, it's not the uh, you know their god of war. Essentially, as people were talking about that, it could possibly be. So I wanted to talk about this because microsoft has obviously lost the console wars. It is what it is at this point. I love my Xbox Series S. Haven't touched it in months. Luckily, my daughter uses it all the time. But there's basically no reason to spend $500 on a Series X at this point, even though I just want one. I definitely do not need one.
Speaker 3:
30:00
So at this point again, people are talking about are they pivoting to something else, whether it be software or just pc gaming or whatever it may be? And you know why, cost all these people their jobs when it's not, it's not really necessary. So, eric, I do want to throw it to you first, because our love for co-op gaming was because of the xbox 360. Like that is where you and I did a lot of bonding and a lot of fighting, but mostly bonding. So I'll throw it to you first. Like I know you've. You know we've been kind of following this story over the course of the month and I just want to get your thoughts on them. You know making these cuts and you know what it means for Microsoft going forward.
Speaker 1:
30:40
Yeah, I think the biggest thing you were kind of alluding to, Phil, is what are what is going to be the future of Microsoft and what? What are going to be the changes that they make? Because do I see another Xbox console in Microsoft's future? Not, not really. You know Nintendo is coming out with the unofficial Switch to PlayStation's already allegedly working on their next gen. So I mean, I just don't see where Microsoft fits in all of this.
Speaker 1:
31:11
I think their ship has passed for some of these properties to make a return. You know we talked about on the Fallout 76 episode for the month of May that there is probably a time period here where they have to capitalize on some type of fallout exposure, Like if they wanted to remaster an old game or create a new one. There's a time limit because of the show and its popularity. I don't really know that. That's the case for anything else that they have. And you know we've talked about their franchises, your halos, your Gears of War, Exciting, but I don't think those are going to move the needle unless they're fantastic.
Speaker 1:
31:51
And, Phil, unfortunately, if those big properties aren't moving the needle, there's no hope for these smaller development companies for a game like Hi-Fi Rush. All due respect, I also did not play it, but that game might have been a success. But successes for Microsoft are not cutting it. You know, successes are much more minor than what they are probably expecting in this space. So, you know, I think it's unfortunate for sure, but it's kind of just the way that Microsoft has been making their business decisions. Also, not like surprising to hear this has been making their business decisions Also.
Speaker 3:
32:26
Not surprising to hear this and having, as I've discussed, just entered the world of PC gaming and even though it was a little, it can still be a little rough, but the amount of really good PC ports we've been getting lately goes to show you. If Microsoft wants to shift to PC gaming, only, it is easy for them to do. Now, what this means for you, Eric, is specifically with Bethesda is, by the time 2028 rolls around and Elder Scrolls comes out, you are going to have to have a gaming PC by then. So that just means you'll be investing a lot of money into that, into a piece of hardware that is a lot more expensive to maintain and to purchase and to put together than a console.
Speaker 3:
33:02
So, Ivan, you know, I know you and I all three of us we all talked about a lot of your PlayStation gaming. Did you ever have like, were you ever an Xbox fanboy or anything along those lines? And again, you know, as a creator yourself, and there's so much that goes into these games, especially artistically, that's something you can definitely like, definitely understand. So what do you think about, you know, a company the size of Microsoft making cuts that they don't really necessarily seem to have to make.
Speaker 2:
33:32
So, like to start with the first question, I I never really been an Xbox boy, like I don't know what it was. I, it doesn't help that. My dad was like, oh, you're not getting one, plain and simple, when I was, you know, younger. But, um, like, my friends had them and I would play the games they had, but I just never had any full interest in what they were making and I mean I ended up getting on xbox. I don't know which one it is. I'm gonna tell you right now I think it's the xbox one s. I think that's what I have. I can't tell you because I forgot, because their names are kind of ridiculous. I lose track of which one is which.
Speaker 2:
34:11
But I mean, every time they've ever had a game, even if it was an exclusive, I just didn't really care for it. I mean there's been some that have been really cool art directions. I think the last one that I legitimately was like, oh, I'm going to buy this because it's already, it's only on the Xbox I think it's Sunset Overdrive. I think, yeah, that one was like fun and has such a cool like comic artsy kind of like style. So I always love things with like very, very particular style. But and I do I do keep up with games. Even now I may not play as much as I used to, but I do keep up with games. Even you know, now I may not play as much as I used to, but I still keep up with them. But the but I can't tell you a Microsoft game that has come out that's exclusive to Microsoft, that's not on every other console. I can't remember anything, the most current one, because I'm always PlayStation or Sony, I mean, and Nintendo, it's kind of what it is, and I wish I could play on the PC. I do think Microsoft. I'm kind of surprised they haven't shifted to fully PC by now, if I'm being truthful, because I've always kind of felt the same way that I felt like the console. I always felt like Xbox was never going to win the console wars.
Speaker 2:
35:18
I'm going to be honest, my friend and I used to argue to the ends of the earth that he was. He was xbox, I was sony and you know, and then partly nintendo, because I'm always gonna stick with my nintendo. I'm not gonna. They don't do, they do things I don't love. Sometimes I'm not like brainwashed, but I still have my nintendo. But I was told him. Like you know, like I just don't see, I I never loved their business model or the things they were really coming out with.
Speaker 2:
35:45
I mean, and from I remember I think the game was you said you said redfall, I think it's what it's called, right that that I believe that's like that first person shooter, right, right, yeah, I remember having like a ton. I remember I do remember hearing people, people ask me about it at cons hey, have you played redfall? I'm like no, what is that? And then they explain it to me or whatever, or like, or like when it was going to come out or whatever was.
Speaker 2:
36:06
I don't remember exactly when, but I remember people just complaining about it. They had like a ton of bugs and a bunch of issues, things like that. So, like I just I don't know, I haven't really kept up with microsoft as much as I used to, especially because nothing is like, nothing is grabbing me from them at all. Like, since I got the one S and I don't, if I'm even correct, cause I can't remember the console that I got and I got it, I think, for a game, and I don't remember what game I got it for, because I haven't played it and I think I use it for a 4k player now.
Speaker 1:
36:42
So yeah, honestly, that's what I use. I use my xbox for, uh, because I have the series s, so it doesn't have a disc. Um, my playstation handles that. But like in my office space here I use it for, like all of my apps, like crunchyroll, hulu, like that's. That's what I watch. Basically it's an entertainment system at this point and it works for that because, personally, where xbox has always thrived, I love their interface. I think it's way more user-friendly from the home screen forward and their controller. But even that, like phil, the dual sense is pretty great, like it's a pretty good controller. I still think the xbox has a slight edge for nostalgia for me, but like it's not that much of a difference where I'm not like used to be a whole new console.
Speaker 3:
37:26
Like I hated the ps3 controller. I hated the ps3 controller I can give you that definitely got a little bit better.
Speaker 3:
37:33
Ps5 now and again, like with the pc games that I play, a lot of them have support and a lot of it is play like the xbox controller support, but for some of them I would prefer for it to be the playstation controller at this point. So, um, like I still I still love this design, still love the, the interface. But, yeah, you're right, the issue with that, eric, is you're paid 300 for something you could pay 50 for and for an amazon prime stick, and that's the issue with with what you're saying, right, there is but I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2:
38:02
Like that is, you could have just bought a but I get where you're coming from, because I ended up using my eventually my x. Well, for a while it became the entertainment system. I use it for all the apps too. I I mean, then I stopped using it. Now I think it just sits whenever I put a 4k movie in. That's it. Um, because I don't want to use my playstation 5 for that, because I'm like, oh you, I have devices for specific functions you play games?
Speaker 1:
38:27
yeah, exactly yeah, that's crazy because we're, like the biggest fans of game pass.
Speaker 3:
38:32
Uh, phil, the the best deal still gaming which I can use on my pc.
Speaker 1:
38:37
But speaking of which this is. This is a great opportunity to ask phil if maybe this will get us to play it. Uh, because I want to talk about the lineup for next week's episode. Uh, so in the patreon post show we'll talk about a game on there that I think we should play for the month of june interesting. So I'll bring that up afterwards. I don't know that you're going to expect it and I'm pretty sure you're going to say no, but I'm going to try great, great.
Speaker 3:
39:04
But yeah, um again, this was big news here in the month of may and a lot of stuff has come out, like I said, since then, and, uh, you know, do you just feel bad for those people that were walking into jobs they thought were their dream job and then it ended up being something totally different. So hopefully, you know, they end up elsewhere and um, you know, figure it listen.
Speaker 3:
39:24
I will say this to wrap it up like we never thought, like there were certain games like you know, like they're they're pushing out now on playstation that were only on xbox, that we were getting sea of thieves, high fire rush I feel like they're dipping their toe in the water and we'll see a halo. We'll see a gears of war on the plate on the playstation one day, which will be totally crazy to see for Eric from you and I being Xbox fans for so long. But it's certainly not impossible. I think it's more possible than ever before is what I will say. Ivan, you mentioned Sunset Overdrive. You know what that studio did. They packed their bags up, went to Sony and made Spider-Man.
Speaker 2:
40:00
I know, I know that's my point.
Speaker 3:
40:03
They perfected my point. They made an amazing game in terms of Sunset Overdrive, which, by the way, is on Game Pass. You guys should go play it because it's incredible. But you know what? They took the bag and went elsewhere and they made a great game on a different console.
Speaker 2:
40:20
That's my point. Well, eric.
Speaker 1:
40:24
I think we have one more one more to go, so we have one person left, so obviously we know who it's going to be not obvious because we have the wheel still to be played and that wheel has to be played, so we can determine who is that last person. It looks like Phil is struggling with the wheel.
Speaker 3:
40:46
I turned the volume off, so I stopped it. Thank you.
Speaker 1:
40:49
That's great, because we're going to count down now for the final time.
Speaker 3:
40:55
Which one is it going to? Which Ivan is it going to be, though, two?
Speaker 1:
40:59
Are we taking bets before this?
Speaker 3:
41:01
You could have made the color a different show or a different story, I mean.
Speaker 2:
41:04
That's a good idea. I mean, ooh, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1:
41:08
I'm going to do it now. Hold on, it's going to be any longer. Give me a second.
Speaker 2:
41:12
I'm going to write it down. Hold on, oh my God.
Speaker 3:
41:16
Well, there's only three up here, so I hope that's okay.
Speaker 1:
41:25
No that's fine, pick your top three stories.
Speaker 2:
41:26
There we go. That's fine, hold on, it's going to be a blue. And he's like no, I don't want to do that one. Oh, I don't want to do that one. I might actually change it, we'll see. Oh my God, dude, all right, all right, I got them designated, let's do this you just couldn't shut the hell up, dude.
Speaker 1:
41:35
You just couldn't shut up one. Spin that wheel. That was an A+ S tier.
Speaker 3:
41:48
Great job, that was probably the best so far we got.
Speaker 1:
41:51
Red Ivan. No, no, not the shriek.
Speaker 2:
42:00
No, because I actually didn't think it would go on red.
Speaker 3:
42:05
Why it had an equal chance to land on any of them.
Speaker 2:
42:08
But my heart, what a third chance. But my heart told me this is not the topic to talk about, so it won't be on red that's fine, pick a different topic.
Speaker 1:
42:16
You're not pitching a whole to the. That was a random rule you guys just made on the spot oh god, okay, um what ivan?
Speaker 3:
42:25
what did we miss in the month? So what do you got?
Speaker 2:
42:27
I did not realize this was announced at ever, but I saw that it was. I guess they fully announced it a few days ago or like I don't know, like a week ago. But so I know that they're making like a tomb raider animated series on netflix, but amazon is making a, a live action Tomb Raider series with Phoebe Waller-Bridge as writer, and I I'm a fan of hers. I know I know some people who aren't, or whatever. I loved her on Fleabag and, um, I mean, I've, I've like watched all the things she's written and stuff that that I didn't even know she wrote. So I don't know I'm, and I love Tomb Raider.
Speaker 2:
43:02
Um, I love the newer games than the original, even though I did play the original and I do have a nostalgic, like I have a connection to it. But something about the rebooted games just adds like this I like that survival, like you're getting messed up but you're still like surviving, going through and like kind of like, just like adrenaline rush kind of thing. You're still like surviving, going through and like kind of like, just just like adrenaline rush kind of thing. Um, so I am hoping that they are going to kind of reflect or like the series that she'll write will kind of reflect the newer games versus the older ones. I mean, I also watched the original movies back in the day when I was, like you know, preteen or teenager, and I remember thinking they were fine, but I don't think I don't remember loving them like I love the newer games and I actually did like that movie with them, the one that we made. They made like in the 2000 teens, I don't know for like 17 or 18 yeah, I don't remember the actresses name, but they were.
Speaker 1:
43:59
I think there was like talks for more that's.
Speaker 2:
44:03
That's gotta be the candor so close, yeah I don't know how you say your last name, but either way. So yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we're good. I thought they were gonna make more of that is it, by the way?
Speaker 2:
44:13
yeah, that was, it was spot on yeah, yeah, no, but I know they were. I thought they were saying they were gonna make more of those, because I enjoyed that movie for the most part and it reflected the current games. Um, I know some people don't love the third game, um, or whenever. I didn't actually play that when I have it, but I haven't touched it because, um, I get busy with cons, but, um, I was intending to play it, so I just don't know. I don't know what they're like. I'm just wondering what their um, I guess plan is for it and like what perspective or how they're gonna do it. So I don't know if anyone was excited for it, like I am, because my brother and I love tomb raider, or if other people are like god, they're already making an animated series, we already got a movie and we got games. What more do we need? You know that kind of thing.
Speaker 3:
44:58
So I didn't know how people felt about it or what they thought they might be doing with it yeah, I think tomb raider can be similar to um james bond, where you kind of reinvent who laura croft is, um and over and over again. Um the, the modern games are outstanding. I did not. I also did not play the third one because I know by the time the third one came around a lot of people were a little bit worn out on it. And remember, even though uncharted took its inspiration from games like tomb raider, uncharted had perfected that formula so well. So in in the modern gaming sphere it's so difficult to come out with a game like a modern tomb raider and it not be compared to uncharted, which is not fair to tomb raider because it's the original, it's the og, but that's kind of where we were at that point.
Speaker 3:
45:45
I did not see the movie, just based off of the mixed reviews on it. But, eric, I did see a rumor and this is strictly rumor. I don't think there is any weight to it. But like Melissa Barrera would be perfect as the new Tomb Raider and you know she definitely has the look. She's got a lot of buzz to her right now. I think she's more so in her her Scream Queen era right now with the horror films. But I think she could make a really good transition into that character. She already kind of did a even though it wasn't very good the survival show that was over on Netflix, so she kind of has like a little bit of experience in that realm.
Speaker 3:
46:21
But I, I like this, think, like I said, I think tomb raider, I think laura croft is a, is an iconic character. Uh, that definitely needs to be around. Um, it can't be any worse than the uncharted movie. So they have to be. It's got to be something solid. I, I think they can at least make it better than that. Um, but I'm on board with this. Um, yeah, I think, uh, again, with the right people in charge and the uptick in terms of quality that we're seeing for video game adaptations, I think they can make this work.
Speaker 1:
46:51
Yeah, and the fact that it's a TV series is interesting. I did not know that there was the Netflix anime series, or maybe I did and just completely forgot. I didn't know. Hayley Atwell brought that character to life, so that's just interesting. Love Haley Atwell, but I am excited to see what they could possibly do. Them having, you know, waller Bridge in there is interesting. I don't know if that means because I've never watched Fleabag, so I don't know what like her writing style is. I would assume there's going to be a little bit. Maybe it's not going to be as serious, uh, but hopefully not too unserious. Because you know, ivan, you mentioned the, the uh, the property itself.
Speaker 1:
47:32
I love that first Tomb Raider game, the remake, and it was maybe not unjustly, but it was compared to Uncharted a lot. But for somebody who had never played Uncharted, that experience was great for me and I did enjoy the second game, not as much as the first. So that's what ended up. I also did not play the third game. I think nobody played. It is what I'm learning here today. But that doesn't mean that the character doesn't have more to offer and I think that this is a character that does have some iconicness in there. Maybe not James Bond worthy, but it could be up there. I think they tried to make the movie in 2018 very much like the game, so I don't know that they're going to go that route. So I think I'm just going to kind of hold my breath to determine, like, what is the tone of this show going to be. But it being episodic, is interesting. I think there's more to dive into with that character.
Speaker 2:
48:25
You said it's on Amazon. Yeah, it's, but it being episodic is interesting. I think there's more to dive into with that character you said it's on Amazon.
Speaker 2:
48:28
Yeah, it's going to be on Amazon. Yeah, okay, that's a good sign. Yeah, I know, especially with Fallout and things like that, I just feel like, and the boys and all that I feel like they can have, I feel like the money will be in there. And I mean I did see Fleabag. I've watched things that she's done and I mean there are. She does do comedy a lot, but the thing is that even with Fleabag there were a lot of like deep moments that I'm like whoa, you are making me like feel stuff and a little scared on what's about to happen. So I feel like I feel like she could write it. Fine, I have no real problem with her writing it.
Speaker 2:
48:58
Um, I don't want it to be a comedy like a full, like comedy. That will go against what the whole point is. But I, I, I, I think the episodic nature will help more because I do agree the movie they didn't make it like the game. It was very close to the game, which I didn't really have a problem with. But there are times where I was like, okay, now you're just taking like exactly the story beat from the game, where it was like, did you make it your own? Great, and I want them to, you know, obviously pay homage to what came before or whatnot, Um, but I just, I don't know I, I I just like Tomb Raider a lot.
Speaker 2:
49:33
And and the third one, to say I did, we haven't, none of us have played it, but not because I didn't want to, I've been so busy and my brother did play it and he loves Tomb Raider, maybe a little bit more than me. I'm talking like a little bit and he likes the third one. I think there are some bugs, he did admit, but he does enjoy the third one a lot. I think the second one's been my favorite. I like the first one a lot too, but the second one, I think, because they like really connected a story and I do think I feel like the show would have to kind of reflect on that, because the movie started that and then did nothing with it afterwards, like they just, you know, we didn't get another movie.
Speaker 2:
50:11
So I don't know, I, I do think the tone will be. I'm sure they're gonna have some comedic moments, of course, but I do think the tone will be more that like survival kind of drama kind of a thing. So but uh, no, I, I just I'm excited for it too, but I just was like wondering how other people felt, because I haven't seen much discourse online yet, because it it only was announced a little bit ago. It's only like I think. I just checked here. I think it said like eight days ago, I think yeah, so yeah, very recent.
Speaker 1:
50:38
Yeah, I saw the variety article. I was following along, uh as we're going over it so.
Speaker 3:
50:43
They got to cast the right person for sure. Here's a fan cast. Here's a couple options. You guys let me know Daisy Ridley.
Speaker 1:
50:54
Let's keep Daisy Ridley out of some non-Star. Wars stuff. For now, let's see how she does. Coming back into Star Wars, let's just see. She also wants John Boyega back. So how about she wants a lot? She wants a lot right now. How about, let's be happy, she's back? Vanessa Kirby.
Speaker 2:
51:12
Who's that? Again, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3:
51:14
Let's look Vanessa Kirby. She was in something, she's in something right now. Right, that's out, vanessa Kirby.
Speaker 1:
51:20
She's going to be the fantastic for Sue Storm. That's right. That's right. That's right, yes.
Speaker 3:
51:25
Yeah, vanessa Kirby Gal Gadot. I don't know Naomi Scott.
Speaker 1:
51:34
Now hold on. I love some Naomi Scott now Naomi Scott's great? No, I do too. She's underrated.
Speaker 2:
51:41
I agree with you. Yeah, I definitely agree with you.
Speaker 3:
51:44
Yeah, like, definitely agree with you. Yeah, like I said, melissa Barrera. Who is this? Anna Kendrick? I don't think so.
Speaker 2:
51:49
No.
Speaker 1:
51:50
I kind of like.
Speaker 2:
51:50
Melissa Barrera. If I'm being honest, anna, Kendrick on steroids.
Speaker 1:
51:53
Maybe All due respect Beautiful girl.
Speaker 3:
51:59
Oh man, in the 2000s. Somebody has Rachel Wise here. Oh, if there was a 2008.
Speaker 1:
52:04
It's funny you mention that though, phil, because we keep bringing up the mummy in just casual situations. And again, I just don't understand how, with a Tomb Raider and Uncharted, that there's not another franchise out there that is capturing that magic.
Speaker 3:
52:24
Like an Indiana Jones or the mummy, which I think is absolutely worthy of worth it. And Indiana Jones can't even capture Indiana Jones, I did not see those.
Speaker 2:
52:28
I didn't see the last two movies of that, so I have no idea how they are.
Speaker 1:
52:32
No, you're fine, You're fine yeah no, you're good there, you're good. I didn't watch the last one either, but yeah, no, that ship has sailed.
Speaker 3:
52:41
Yeah, no, we're past that. So, yeah, uh, a good story. I mean because, like I said, I think laura croft is iconic enough of a character that they certainly should get it right on amazon, based off of their track record thus far. Um, but before we transition into our game, let's get to the honorable mentions portion, and ivan is so ready for this, so we're gonna let him go first eric we'll throw it to you first what uh stories almost made the cut for you all right.
Speaker 1:
53:10
so I have a couple here again. I'm just gonna throw them out. They're gonna be really quick, rapid fire, and if anybody wants to comment on them, uh, you know, feel free to do so. Um, most of them are gaming related, but the one that's not is the headline that Disney still wants to make the Margot Robbie, uh, pirates of the Caribbean movie, which is still like being rumored out there. Jerry Bruckheimer spoke to it uh, that they want to make two movies, one of them being with the Barbie star herself. So I don't know whether or not that's a great idea. We've talked about it before on the show.
Speaker 1:
53:46
Curious, if you guys have any thoughts for gaming. There are a couple of things that have happened. So, assassin's Creed released their trailer for Shadows and there was that portion of the Internet that we love that went fucking haywire. So if you have any thoughts on the pro tags and the response to that, let me know. Also, elden Ring is releasing their DLC here in a month and Kai Sinat was like streaming for like 167 hours, which I thought was crazy because I want to play that, and now it's like as popular as ever because of this streamer.
Speaker 1:
54:25
And finally, on a more sad note. Helldivers 2, which has been fantastic to play, has just had so many issues from the PlayStation controversy of having people on Steam have to sign up for a PlayStation account, then going back on that. And then Helldivers, essentially because of that controversy, falling behind on certain changes to the game, and now there's starting to be criticism on their releases being very stagnant. And I do think that for a game that was immensely popular myself included I found myself not playing it as much, to kind of give it some time to catch up and breathe. So I think a lot of the player base is really starting to reflect that.
Speaker 1:
55:07
Phil, you know this because we play it. We failed two major orders back to back, so that just does not happen in the game and Helldiver is just going through a rough time and that was a big story this month. So again, a couple of different stories from Pirates of the Caribbean, helldivers, elden Ring, pretty much anything you can think of a Sasshans Creed. So any thoughts that you guys have, ivan, any topics you want to talk on, Well, hold on, before I say my, to point out I don't have anything against Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 2:
55:37
Well, I do, actually I don't really anything against powers of the caribbean. Well, I do, actually I don't really care for them.
Speaker 3:
55:44
And so for me I'm like, okay, make more, whatever, I don't even the first one I actually fell asleep the second one is the best one I fell asleep through the first one.
Speaker 2:
55:55
Um, and when I fall asleep during a movie because I don't ever do this, whenever I do, that means that movie's not worth my damn time and I okay, we went to a lot I do. That means that movie is not worth my damn time, Okay we went to a lot of midnight showings to that movie.
Speaker 1:
56:06
You're hurting our feelings.
Speaker 2:
56:07
I am very sorry and I love you both and you can love what you love. It's fine. I just didn't care for it and my friend really tried to get me to watch it again. So the second time she tried to sit me down she was trying to tell me all these behind the scenes things and all this, look at this, there's that, there's this. I did not care because you know what happened. Again I fell asleep again so I was like all right, I'm out. So they want to make them. That's cool. I love margot robbie. Go ahead, get your money, girl. I'm fine with it for that, but I'm not. I won't be watching. But um, for elden ring, it's that because you pointed that out. Now I'm more upset because I bought that game day one and guess what, I haven't touched it. So now there's just more stuff to play.
Speaker 3:
56:48
You let Kai Sanat beat Elden Ring before you. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 2:
56:54
I am very upset Now that you said that. Now it just reminded me like damn, I buy these games for what reason? So I'm a little upset about that. So just to point that out.
Speaker 1:
57:03
Um, yeah, so yeah, yeah, it's made me want to buy the game, just to have it, because I am gonna play it like I'm determined at one point. I'm gonna play Elden Ring. I'm stop Phil, stop Phil. I can see you.
Speaker 3:
57:16
I look like directly. I did like a gym from the office, oh yeah, the face is like all right, phil.
Speaker 1:
57:24
Any thoughts on uh outside of elden ring, which I know you don't care well about?
Speaker 3:
57:31
well, you know, pirates or the caribbean with barbie is going to be terrible because woke, uh no, I think it really depends that's why they hate assassin's creed.
Speaker 1:
57:43
Now I know we're gonna oh that was my other thing.
Speaker 3:
57:44
I'm sorry, but continue though no, no, no, go go with the sad screen, okay why?
Speaker 2:
57:49
like? Because, woke. My thing is, though I saw some of the like discourse on it and my thing is yasuke was a black samurai, it, it was in history. So if they want to do that, let that go. Second of all, okay, they have a female like character too. Like some people argue about these, like some people like, literally today I saw people like complaining about it and I don't get it. I don't play assassin's creed only because I never got a chance to get into it. I it's not that I wouldn't like it or anything. There's now, which is just so many games I don't know where to jump in, and usually my friend and con helper, gianna, would tell me because she's played assassin's creed religiously, and she tried to tell me, she tried to break down the story for me, and it was a four-hour conversation on our way to tallahassee that I ended up getting so lost. So I would play.
Speaker 3:
58:38
You're about to say and I fell asleep? No, we would have died if I fell asleep. Oh, you were driving.
Speaker 2:
58:43
Yeah, but like it sounds interesting and I love samurais, I mean I love Japanese culture, I mean it is what it is, so I would totally play this game. But can I just jump in? I don't know. I mean I'm fine with them having a black character and a female character, like what's the big deal? Like I don't understand why people hate someone. I don't get it. It just drives me bonkers.
Speaker 3:
59:05
We know why. We do know why. I just wish there was a deeper meaning.
Speaker 1:
59:11
I wish there was a deeper thing. Are these people that are complaining really Assassin's Creed fans? Because whoa? Yeah, because again, like there's not a lot of diehard, there are actually some diehard Assassin's Creed fans. The game is pre-ordering pretty well, all things considered, so it's a very small minority that is the vocal lead in this conversation and unfortunately, most of those people not only have not played the game which is shit, yeah, they're the loudest they just haven't played the games and they're also racist, probably. So that doesn't help.
Speaker 3:
59:43
Yeah, and to answer your question Ivy, yes, you can jump into an Assassin's Creed at any point. To be honest with you At this point now, yeah, you can just play an Assassin's Creed, it's like a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2:
59:53
Marvel movie post-2025.
Speaker 3:
59:55
You can just jump into it whenever you want to. But, yeah, no, the thing with Assassin's Creeded for me now I'll just start there is because it's just remember how we talked about, like with um, with the fallout games, eric, like I think there's just too much freedom in assassin's creed now because, like I remember our buddy josh watching him play through the one in egypt and just a massive map and so many different um rpg elements and stuff that I'm like I just remember when these were pretty simple and I didn't have to worry about all that stuff. So that would. That is preventing me from going back into it. But this one, again, we've been waiting for them to go to, to go to Japan, for a long time. So I may check it out. Really, just depends on what the release schedule looks like in the fall.
Speaker 3:
1:00:40
As far as Helldivers, yeah, like you said, this goes back to when we talked about it during our episode. We're like, hey, just stay this course. You guys are doing very, very well, don't screw it up. And you know whether it was their decision or a Sony decision probably a Sony decision. You know here we are and they can certainly rebound from this, I think, especially given you know their mistakes compared to other games I think are still pretty minute compared to what other people have done. Um, yeah, I think the Kai Sanat playing first off. I don't know anyone that watches the the. The fact that he thinks he's a streamer for adults I think is pretty funny, like it's all kids that are watching him. But it is a good thing that people that are typically only playing Call of Duty and Madden are now going to go play a game like Elden Ring. That's good. They're going to get the shit kicked out of them, but it's a good thing that they're going out and playing those poor controllers.
Speaker 3:
1:01:31
I know, yeah, we're going to go through a lot of controllers because I know I'm not going to play that game. I played five minutes of Stellar Blade and I uninstalled the demo. I was like, nope, this is not for me, is it too hard?
Speaker 1:
1:01:43
I'm bad at parrying Parrying and dodging is not my thing. Oh, that's my best thing. It is not my bag. Again, I'm going to recommend a game and I just want you to have an open mind when I recommend it.
Speaker 3:
1:01:56
Yeah, parrying and dodging is not my bag. That's why I had a hard time with God of War, even though I enjoy the hell out of it, but like it's just not my thing. And then what was?
Speaker 1:
1:02:03
the first that or platforming or platforming. I'm not great at platforming either, really.
Speaker 2:
1:02:07
He's so bad at that. I have really bad depth perception, oh my God so.
Speaker 3:
1:02:11
I'm not good at platforming.
Speaker 2:
1:02:12
It's funny you say that because my husband's the exact same way. He.
Speaker 3:
1:02:18
I can do it in like Spider-Man and Batman, because you know there's the little that gives you.
Speaker 1:
1:02:24
That's what it sounds like so it gives you an idea when it's about to happen.
Speaker 3:
1:02:28
Yeah, that's what spiders sound like.
Speaker 3:
1:02:30
Look it up and then no. But for Pirates of the Caribbean, again, I think it just depends on what timeline this is. You gotta make it her own. Margot Robbie is a big enough star that she could carry, I think, a franchise, for we know she could carry a franchise. So, um, you know I'll, I'll probably be seated for it, uh, if it looks better than the ones with, like, um, who, penelope cruz and like those ones were so bad. So, um, I think we can give it a shot if anything. But yeah, for mine, that almost made the cut. This is one that just is super surprising.
Speaker 3:
1:03:08
A Fall Guy is already about to start streaming on digital media. Even though it just came out, it's doing pretty well in the box office. Somebody made good points. There's no Marvel or superhero film in theaters right now. It's a really great blockbuster, like throwback film, and it is already going to be released on digital. Actually, today it was released on digital today, yeah, the 21st, and this is why theaters are dying. You know, like we did not. Why aren't we? Why, uh, the fall guy like such a short run in theaters? I know, personally, like we want to go experience a lot of stuff in theaters for just for the experience of it, um, but a lot of people are just going to be like, yeah, I'll go, I'll go see this in, I'll just go watch this in my living room, you know, with my family, and for some people that's great, like I know I. We have friends that can't go out as much as they want to, whether it be because of kids, whether because of financial reasons or because of, uh, they just can't get out like they want to. For, for whatever reason that may be, but, like, movies need to stay in theaters longer and, and the fact that this is happening, there was another movie I think, uh, that this just recently happened to. It may have been abigail like ab already available on streaming, which is crazy. So that was something I almost brought up. Fall Guy, by the way, really, really fun film. Definitely recommend seeing it in theaters. Do not watch it at home quite yet, because of the success of the X-Men 97 show, marvel seems to be speeding things up when it comes to the live action X-Men movie, which is not surprising, so hopefully I don't rush it too much. Um, but it seems like the? Uh. The writer for the um uh, the ballot of the songbirds and snakes, michael Leslie, is in negotiations to write the film uh, which I think is a good sign. That was a very good movie.
Speaker 3:
1:04:59
Um, the other thing I wanted to bring up just very briefly to talk about, because we did have Ivan here and even though we don't necessarily care too much, the Nintendo Switch 2 will probably be announced at some point this year, releasing in 2025. I actually just sold my Switch because it was just collecting dust, never really used it. I went to my Animal Crossing island one more time, said goodbye to my villagers and deleted them from the history books and I will never see them again Because I had to wipe clean the Switch. I wasn't going to give my buddy my Switch with all my information on it, not that I don't trust him, but it's just he probably wanted a fresh Nintendo Switch. And then, the last thing I wanted to bring up I posted this in our Discord page Jeopardy is getting a pop culture spinoff on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3:
1:05:45
Listen here you sons of bitches. I know you've been paying attention. I don't know who greenlit this. I'll find you If any of my questions are on your stupid show. I swear to God I'll come find you. But anyway, they're doing auditions for that. We should maybe look into it.
Speaker 2:
1:06:03
You should look into it.
Speaker 3:
1:06:05
Those were my. Almost made the cut stories, ivan.
Speaker 1:
1:06:10
Which ones do you want to tackle?
Speaker 2:
1:06:11
Hold on, I have a lot to tackle here, but you might need to refresh my memory because it was a lot. Hold on. So I'm going to go with the Fall.
Speaker 3:
1:06:19
Guy, okay, first off X-Men, nintendo Switch 2, and Jeopardy, okay.
Speaker 2:
1:06:25
So, fall Guy, this is a problem I've complained about for so long, but I get it Like you're saying, people, they can't always go to the theater and whatnot, but I love going to the theater. I literally budget that Regal Pass thing, the Regal Unlimited thing. We have it in our budget because it's like the one thing I give myself to. That way I can go see movies whenever the hell I want to go see them. And I haven't had time to see fall guy because of all the conventions I've gone to and there's a friend that wants to see it with me and we go together. But now you're telling me it's gonna be on stream already.
Speaker 2:
1:06:58
It's just annoying. Granted, I'm still gonna go see it in theater and you know what, no one's gonna be in there because they're gonna be at home watching it, and you know what? That's fine, go stay home when I get to enjoy the theater by myself, with my friend actually. But so that's just kind of annoying. Like I really, really hate that. And then, abigail too, I actually wanted to see that. And to know this already on stream is like okay, like you gave no time and I I feel like they think because if you put it on stream, everybody will see it faster. Now I get that, but why is the faster like turnout better than a steady turnout? Like I don't get it. Like I I never understood that it's the same thing. When they drop a show, they drop, they drop the entire show at once. It gets talked about for one week and then that's it. I mean, like.
Speaker 3:
1:07:46
And then the other thing too sorry to cut you off, ivan is theaters can write off these losses now too. Like they can write off losses in terms of box office. So that's that's definitely playing into it as well.
Speaker 1:
1:07:57
So so to to play devil's advocate, because I actually like this move for the Fall Guy, and here's why.
Speaker 3:
1:08:05
Eric doesn't want to go to the theater for a three or a three and a half movie.
Speaker 2:
1:08:09
I'm down. Take me for four hours, I don't care.
Speaker 1:
1:08:12
No, no, no no, I'm talking about score wise. He doesn't want to see an average movie in theaters.
Speaker 3:
1:08:17
Why get that?
Speaker 1:
1:08:18
I don't like seeing average movies at theaters. If you think this is, I'm going to walk away and this is one of my best movies of the year. I'm sorry, you're going to be mistaken. I can't. It's probably a good time, but nobody is claiming that and I think the box office shows after two weeks. So it's not bad. $127 million isn't bad, but it had $130 budget and you got to think about it. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes just came out, furiosa and Garfield are coming out and then following that is going to be Bad Boys and then Inside Out 2 is right around the corner. So, like, this is the time if you're going to try to recoup losses For me.
Speaker 1:
1:09:01
I had already made a decision to wait for streaming. Now I'm considering renting it now and watching it. So I think it's kind of like a give and take. I can understand the business decision. Sure, is it a little premature? Is it a great sign for films? No, but like it, it does make sense from a business standpoint. I can. I can make sense out of it. Not that we can, not that we have to agree with it, but I can make sense out of it. Not that we have to agree with it, but I can make sense out of it.
Speaker 3:
1:09:24
I don't think the Garfield audience is dipping into the Fall Guy audience.
Speaker 2:
1:09:27
That was my point. That was what I was about to say.
Speaker 1:
1:09:32
But you don't know you don't know. The parents of those kids might not be going to the movies weeks before because they're going to be going. It spends Family of movies weeks before because they're going to be going. You know, it spends family of four. You're going to spend a hundred dollars, over a hundred dollars, at the movies. Maybe you don't want to see the fall guy by yourself or with a friend two weeks earlier, like I think it's realistic when you word it like that.
Speaker 2:
1:09:54
I can see that, like I. I honestly can't see it that way, you know. But I, I just feel like I do agree, like I would nitpick a movie, like, okay, this would affect my, this would affect our sales, so then we should do it. Then I just feel like what, what's coming out this week? Furiosa, right?
Speaker 1:
1:10:10
no, no, no, this is furiosa and garfield comes out. This week.
Speaker 2:
1:10:13
Okay, so fine then then. Okay, then I see your point, then I'll I can't.
Speaker 1:
1:10:17
Furiosa crowd is legit. Yeah, because I'm gonna be right there. I have a con this weekend and I have a.
Speaker 2:
1:10:22
I'm going to dip out at the end of the con because it's not my table, but I'm going to go and go watch Furiosa, so like I get it. So when you say it like that, I get it Okay.
Speaker 1:
1:10:33
And again, it is sad, but this is not like a pristine premiere movie.
Speaker 2:
1:10:43
It's a fun time with ryan gosling.
Speaker 1:
1:10:44
Two weeks is so fast, though, and that's what sucks. It's, but it's also a bad. I mean it sucks, but the realist, the realism of the circumstances we're sitting in, is it released two weeks before? Furiosa didn't deliver, and there's other movies around this time kingdom of the planet of the apes, I also think, didn't help, like I think. I think audiences have to make decisions, and some people who wanted a good laugh and a little bit of action, they got their fill, but other people are gonna make time for one of these other movies or the family movies that are coming up, because going to the movies is expensive. So, like I get it, but I think that says more to the release date of the actual film than the two-week period we're focusing on.
Speaker 2:
1:11:25
Yeah, I can—that was going to be what I was about to say. I think it just is. The release date is what really matters, because—i see your point. I mean because when Fall Guy came out, I didn't see it immediately. I mean I kind of wanted to, but like I couldn't make it work. So that's to say that it wasn't as high in my list. So I assume, like how other people felt, because now, when planet of the apes came out, I saw that I'm talking the night before it came out.
Speaker 1:
1:11:48
I watched it like that, like we waited a week and we didn't want to wait a week, we wanted to see it opening weekend. So, like again, people will make it two weeks doesn't seem like a lot of time before an audience. Two, two weeks. We all made up our minds whether or not we were going to see the film. Phil saw it, yeah, you and me didn't. Well, I'll be honest, I couldn't.
Speaker 2:
1:12:09
We're busy, I get it, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1:
1:12:10
I'm just telling you, we made our decision.
Speaker 2:
1:12:12
I know, I know.
Speaker 1:
1:12:13
And, realistically, we were both probably going to watch that movie six plus months from now on stream.
Speaker 2:
1:12:19
No, I'm still seeing it next week. I'm just gonna have to cram it in with a bunch of other movies, that's all.
Speaker 1:
1:12:24
Alright, we're gonna hold you to that.
Speaker 3:
1:12:27
I'm gonna watch it next week, be advised.
Speaker 2:
1:12:28
I go to movies. All the time I go, all the time I pay for that Regal thing.
Speaker 3:
1:12:31
And also Orlando's Regal is nice. It's not shit like ours.
Speaker 2:
1:12:37
And it's like 10 minutes from my god, that's what we need to do, eric.
Speaker 3:
1:12:41
We need to pool. That's what we need to do. That will be our stupid purchase. Recently I asked all of my friends. I said if you were to win the lottery and you were allowed to make one dumb purchase, let's buy Regal at the Avenues and renovate that bitch. I think that'll be it. I'm pretty sure it's a church now, oh my god, it Did it. Shut down, shut down. Oh no, I think it's only a church on like certain, I think only like Sunday morning.
Speaker 1:
1:13:06
I think it's still a theater. That's not a great.
Speaker 2:
1:13:08
It's still not a good thing. It's a church and a theater together.
Speaker 3:
1:13:11
I think it might be both. They might rent it out. Yeah, wait, so what was the other two things?
Speaker 2:
1:13:25
were the other couple things were nintendo switch to x-men and then jeopardy. So x-men, I knew they were gonna. I knew once night night x-men 97 came out they were gonna like put x-men on the high priority list. I already knew before I even heard anything, because like we didn't see x, we I didn't get to watch x-men 97 until like a week later or two weeks later. But after like the first couple days of how everybody loved it, I was like, oh well, x-men is going to get fast tracked. Now I will be one of the ones to say that X-Men 97, I think, is phenomenal. I did watch the series growing up so like I could just slide back in it. I will say I did have to put like a recap YouTube video for my husband, shane, because he didn't really he watched it, kind of bits and pieces, that's what I need to do.
Speaker 2:
1:14:08
Yeah, so there is like really one short one which I put on, and I regretted it because they only gave you such small cliff notes. And then there's another one a tad longer, but it gave you a much better like understanding of plot threads, especially because when they made the short, when they made these videos, they didn't fully know what was going to be in the series yet, because it wasn't made yet or it wasn't out yet. So the shorter one I think it really wasn't the guy's fault, he just gave what was like kind of how it ended, not what the overall like story beats were, but either way. Point is that yeah, I, I knew x-men would be that fast track and I mean, I kind of wanted, I kind of want to fast track. I've been wanting a better x-men movie for a long time, but I also don't want it to be crap. So it's like, please make sure the quality is there.
Speaker 2:
1:14:51
But, um, now the switch thing. Okay, I love my switch. I do, and I do play more than anything else, because easy for me to just put on mario kart or splatoon when I need a break from painting for like 20 minutes, because that's all I can do right now. But I don't want a new Switch. Already I have too many games on my already Switch that I haven't played yet. I don't want another one. So, nintendo, can you slow down please?
Speaker 3:
1:15:15
Well, if it makes you feel any better, it won't look any different than the original Switch, because there's no way, power wise, that nintendo knows how to make a console that can be strong it's just gonna be called the super switch.
Speaker 2:
1:15:26
They know what to do, they just don't do it for some odd reason I don't understand a pokemon game that looks like a game boy color game. That's gonna be today oh, I know, and those new pokemon games. I look at them like what, what is this? Why does it look like this? But that's a topic for another day.
Speaker 1:
1:15:42
Nintendo is just, they are who they are. They're just going to stay that way. I don't personally have any desire to get a Switch. My son has a Switch Lite. I kind of hate it. It kind of sucks the Switch. Anytime I've played it, I just don't have a good time with it. It's a controller thing, so it's just not for me.
Speaker 3:
1:16:04
Here's the thing if they, if they release a new animal crossing with the switch 2, I'll be like god damn it. Okay, all right all right, let me uh let me well, you don't like games like animal crossing. I spend, I'll spend over 100 hours on animal crossing and I know you will.
Speaker 2:
1:16:20
The pro controller Controller is like an Xbox controller. The Pro Controller is pretty good. So there you go. Yeah, I love the Pro Controller.
Speaker 3:
1:16:27
But again, there wasn't anything on there that I was going to spend $50 on.
Speaker 2:
1:16:30
Well, yeah.
Speaker 3:
1:16:32
And then play the Pro Controller, yeah.
Speaker 1:
1:16:35
And then X-Men was. I think we're all on board with that. I think we're excited. We'll see how Deadpool and Wolverine turns out, because I feel like that will maybe give us a hint of what's to come. But, Ivan, what are your 25 plus stories that you have in the chamber?
Speaker 2:
1:16:51
You just added like a ton more.
Speaker 3:
1:16:54
It has gotten bigger. We figured you'd look some up while we were doing that.
Speaker 2:
1:16:57
No, I didn't, I deliberately didn't. Okay, how dare you. And I was going to cut one out right now. So I'm going to speed through these, because I'm sure at least one of them I don't think either one of you have watched or know anything about so you know, but I'm only bringing this up because I think it's kind of funny, so or not?
Speaker 2:
1:17:13
I guess kind of funny. So I saw the other day they announced a Legally Blonde prequel TV TV series. Now, I do love the movies actually, I don't know why I just do, but why she's like in high school, I think, like, are we gonna like, make it like the movie? I don't see the point. Like the movie showed she, I mean, she can do it, she's you know, she's also smart too, whatever. But like, is it gonna? Like? I imagine it's still gonna end with her how she began in the first movie, where she didn't have the growth yet. So, like, what am I building to? Like that's the thing for that. But um, okay, and the next one is this one doesn't really count, I feel like, because I didn't, I didn't think about it until like 20 minutes ago. It came out in april. But um, kaiju number eight, like it's so good. And I I'm just wondering how.
Speaker 2:
1:18:09
I'm wondering how people really feel about it, because I'm hearing some mixed things. Because character designs and I admit in the manga they're more drawn they're drawn sharper, more like distinct, where in the anime they're a more loose. But it's also because it's easier to animate the less detail and the rounder something is. But just, you know, I don't know how people feel about that. I've been waiting to hear about it at cons and no one's really brought it up yet. So I'm like, because I'm kind of waiting to debate about it at a con, I, but whatever, uh. And then this other one is the one I don't think anyone I haven't heard many people talk about. There's a show called scavengers reign on hbo max, because I'm not calling it. I'm not calling it what they call that app. It got canceled on hbo max. There's a one season animated series and it's not an anime.
Speaker 1:
1:18:56
Huh people, people love that from what I know it was amazing.
Speaker 2:
1:19:00
I, I, I had it on my like instagram for quite a bit, like trying to get people like, oh, check it out, check it out, but hbo canceled it, or hbo max canceled it, but apparently now netflix took it, like saved it, so we're possibly getting more. But my thing is like, if it which I have seen this happen, we've all seen this happen when it goes on netflix, I don't know where people see it and like pay attention to it. So like I'm just wondering if it's going to do that, or if it's going to do that thing where they will make one, they'll make another season and just cancel it for the sake of it. So I'm just wondering, like if it's a budget going to be there or are they going to really invest in it, because I thought it was brilliant, like I absolutely loved it. Um, so there's that. And then the last one I I just have to bring it up because I feel like I can't talk to anyone about it because no one in my close vicinity cares about it.
Speaker 2:
1:19:49
I loved planet of the apes and I just want to know, because I saw they said that their plan was to make nine movies. So I'm just wondering is everyone really going to like stick around for it? Because I know I am, we're already on movie four. So my thing is like is everyone else to like stick around for it? Because I know I am, we're already on movie four. So my thing is like is everyone else can really stick around for it? Because if they don't, then I get scared. We won't get a true conclusion to it. So yeah, I don't know. Those are my other topics I was trying to. I was like debating I'm talking about so those are all good those are.
Speaker 3:
1:20:18
Let's start with planet of the apes, because you and I actually haven't talked about it, since we both saw the movie.
Speaker 3:
1:20:24
So I put my review up on our Discord. You have your review up on TikTok and Instagram and we came away very similar. You definitely enjoyed it more than I did. For me, here is the issue and this is what I talked about in my Discord review Is that Caesar is such a daunting and excellent character, like I think we've talked about this, like the Planet of the Apes, that new trilogy is not discussed enough in terms of like um, in terms of cinematic universes and what they've built with that, with that franchise um, especially coming off the heels of the disaster that was, you know, the mark walberg film.
Speaker 3:
1:21:03
So caesar is just such an incredible protagonist that I never fully bought into noah like I. I think I wanted to. Um definitely loved uh, raka right, that was the name of the other character, raka, the orangutan, incredible um. Also that ties back to you know the original films and and you know the orangutans being like the, you know the apes that are in charge from the original films. And then I also loved the villain. I almost called him Proxima Midnight, which I know is not the correct name.
Speaker 2:
1:21:34
You were close, but it is.
Speaker 3:
1:21:35
Proximus Caesar Loved that performance as well. That actor is just really good at playing a villain and a dick in general, but then also human characters, totally interchangeable, forgettable. You could have. They basically just swapped out Gary Oldman for the new guy.
Speaker 1:
1:21:55
And Gary.
Speaker 3:
1:21:56
Oldman was very good in the second Planet of the Apes, so I gave it a three out of five. Still very much enjoyed it and I'm seated. I am seated for what they have next as long as we don't go totally off the rails. So that's right, landon, yeah.
Speaker 1:
1:22:09
I gave it a three and a half out of five and there are just a couple things holding it back from being like really fantastic. But I view this like Rise, like I know a lot of people like Rise, but between that Dawn and War it's clearly the weaker movie. So I just think that's what this movie is going to be. It's not a bad film. I think we will appreciate it more once we see what this trilogy has to offer. Phil, I don't know what you're talking about and maybe it's just me. I bought into Noah. I loved Noah, I think everything with the.
Speaker 1:
1:22:41
Eagle clan at the beginning with his friends. I, I was a sucker for it, dude. I was like, yeah, yeah, give me Noah, I like Noah and I just really think that that could be a really interesting performance. Will it ever reach Caesar levels? Probably not. Um, I also think the difference in tone of that character is something to get used to. Um, he's definitely a much different character in the way he behaves, the way he speaks, all of that. So, uh, it'll be interesting to see where they go.
Speaker 1:
1:23:12
The humans dragged this movie down completely. Uh, when they make the switch with the girl, which you know, if you haven't seen the movie, we won't spoil it. But essentially there's a chain. This character just all of a sudden is a new character all of a sudden in the middle of this movie, and I just didn't buy it. And also, all these humans look very pretty for being in a post apocalyptic, like they're basically cavemen type situations is what we're led to believe. You know, they can't make them look ugly. The movie, okay, we could at least not put makeup into their hair, like.
Speaker 3:
1:23:46
I just think I agree, I just think we could not look as pristine and clean.
Speaker 1:
1:23:50
I agree, and it's not just her, it's all of them, honestly. Um, so it just like again. It was like nitpicky stuff. Uh, uh, the story was fine.
Speaker 2:
1:24:16
It's somehow in two and a half hours gave us a lot of character building and world building and also not enough.
Speaker 3:
1:24:20
So that's where I'm excited for what's to come, cause they're definitely building towards something, but I do, I do feel it in the movie, when film, but we'll see what happens next. Noah definitely didn't do it for me the way that it did for y'all, but there is potential there.
Speaker 2:
1:24:29
I'll say that I do like Noah, I just like his juxtaposition to Caesar, though that's all, because Caesar's a leader. Noah wasn't trying to really be a leader, so that's why I kind of bought it he's bad at it, but bought it so. But okay, that's fine, I didn't teach you to leave at it.
Speaker 3:
1:24:45
That's why you're so bad at it. Yeah, no, he can be bad at it now. He could again. He could evolve into a great leader for sure, absolutely so. Um, now I forgot what your other ones were. Oh, I have not started kaiju number eight because every single month, eric, this is my monthly plug where I say I will read the manga and I have not started it yet yeah, I'll get there. I will get there. I mean, you like kaijus, you like Godzilla.
Speaker 1:
1:25:06
It's literally his whole bag, it's for him, it's sitting behind me.
Speaker 3:
1:25:11
I have two Godzillas right on my desk.
Speaker 2:
1:25:16
I told my husband he's watching. I have my sleepy boy, godzilla.
Speaker 3:
1:25:18
Oh, that's cute. Oddly enough, if you were to pull up my max profile and it says continue watching, it would say episode one scavengers rain. Last week I went to go start it and I had to go. I forgot I had to like go do something else, so I had not started yet, but it literally I was on the cusp of starting it Cause I saw it on an Instagram video and I was like, oh, that looks really interesting. I'm going to go check that out. So, and I have not done it yet. And then what was?
Speaker 2:
1:25:43
the other thing. What was the first thing? What was it? I said Legally, blonde, legally.
Speaker 3:
1:25:47
Blonde, yeah. So let's start a series of Legally Blonde where before she has any character development and any growth whatsoever. Eric, we love, we love the Legally Blonde movies. We love the Legally we love. Elwoods and for some reason they'd be like well let's go she didn't think for herself and thought a man defined her that's what I want to see. I don't understand it so much better is if she was an established lawyer and we did like like a trial type of show where she is a prosecutor boys.
Speaker 2:
1:26:22
I would be seated for that absolutely I would totally watch it, but for some reason no yeah with yeah, right, yeah, or even if she.
Speaker 3:
1:26:29
If they wanted to make um, if they wanted to make l like a mentor, I would. I would be on on board for that too, some sort of a legal mentor. But no, let's do a prequel show. That makes sense.
Speaker 1:
1:26:40
Yeah, I'm also on the same boat. I mean, just do the musical, for God's sake, it's right there. But yeah, for the other two, for Scavenger's Reign I have heard a lot of good things about it. But, Ivan, you're 100% right. Like, if it's not on Crunchyroll or I would say, Netflix is the B-tier anime service If it's not on one of those two platforms, it's pretty much dead in the water. I mean anything that releases on Disney, which you guys know, unfortunately, with heavenly delusion. It's actually one of the reasons I keep forgetting to check it out. I wanted to watch go go loser Ranger when it came out. It's completely forgot. It's on Hulu. Yeah, no, I know it's on Hulu, but because it's on Hulu, I went to go look for it on Crunchyroll last week.
Speaker 2:
1:27:23
I was like where is it?
Speaker 1:
1:27:26
I know Bleach is over there for the Bleach fans.
Speaker 2:
1:27:28
And Sandland.
Speaker 1:
1:27:29
I know it's on there, but because it's on there, my brain just will not put it there in front and say, hey, go to Hulu, go to Max for these series. So I'm not surprised, despite its its praise, that it kind of fell short and got canceled. But I do think netflix is a good landing spot. They have a lot of great recurring series. A lot of these are way different shows but, like comey can't communicate my happy marriage, there's several shows that I watch on there that have repeat seasons or will have repeat seasons. So I think that's if it's not gonna go to Crunchyroll the best situation for an anime.
Speaker 1:
1:28:06
Even though Scavenger's Reign may or may not fit that description, I think Netflix is a good spot. And then, finally, for Kaiju, number eight, I am loving it, ivan, I don't know, I do feel like it's not being talked about very much. So I do feel that, community-wise, I don't understand it about very much. So I do feel that, community wise, I don't understand. It's great. Um, the the only things that I hate about it is that ai generated intro until the last, until the last clip of last clip. Yeah, that that clip is like the best clip of the.
Speaker 2:
1:28:36
Thing about it too. The thing about it is that they are alluding to something in that opening is just's just that it's. Why is it AICG nonsense? Like I don't understand. I don't know.
Speaker 1:
1:28:46
Also, I do like that the opening is in English and the ending Phil. The ending song is a One Republic song. Oh, I know it's awesome.
Speaker 2:
1:28:53
I actually like it a lot and it's great.
Speaker 1:
1:28:55
But yeah, youngblood does the opening, one Republic does the ending, public does the ending. I think this is like made for mainstream. They're trying to do something with it. Maybe it's not resonating but, ivan, I love the manga. I am absolutely loving the show. I think the show captures the heart, the comedy I've read like the first two pages of the manga.
Speaker 1:
1:29:13
I'm like this I'm like this looks good, I hate you this looks really good but yeah, I'm caught up right now now I still actively read it. Now I'm reading-side, which is like these short stories in between everything. So like I enjoy it, I think it's fantastic. It's probably if it wasn't for solo leveling. That's so stupid. If it wasn't for solo leveling, it'd probably be like it's on pace to be one of my favorite animes of the year.
Speaker 2:
1:29:38
Yeah, because I did love soul leveling a lot. I really did.
Speaker 2:
1:29:41
It's so good um, yeah not only like I mean people were bringing it up to me at otaku fest last weekend. Like they were bringing up because I have a print and they were talking about it but there wasn't more love. Like I put the print kind of front and center and I didn't get. Everyone was kind of see but not saying anything or they didn't start it yet or or whatever, and I'm like, oh okay, like it's surprising, because I agree with you. I feel like it is oh, my god, that's my print. Yeah, my sweat.
Speaker 2:
1:30:10
Wasn't that? Wasn't that a patreon exclusive right?
Speaker 1:
1:30:13
I can't remember for that month yeah, I think I gave, I think phil phil yeah, eric gave it to me, yeah okay, okay, okay, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2:
1:30:19
I'm starting to lose track of which ones are my Patreon ones for the month. But yeah, like people were talking about bringing it up, but I just felt like, considering how much I know people love the manga over the last couple years, I expected a lot more like traction and love and attention to it and I just did not see any. And the one I kind of just did and the one I did previous, I'm like where is the attention here?
Speaker 3:
1:30:45
I don't see it existing out there in the Twitter sphere, the anime Twitter sphere, which is interesting.
Speaker 1:
1:30:50
Which is weird because it releases on X it releases on Twitter.
Speaker 3:
1:30:55
Yeah, that's true. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1:
1:30:56
It's so confusing to me so confusing, but I think maybe, when it's all said and done, maybe it will be a binge worthy show. I know I'm watching it with my wife and she's mad that we're watching it episodically.
Speaker 2:
1:31:07
Yeah yeah, shane is Shane's the same way. I mean you're watching day one but, he's like OK, I think it's great.
Speaker 1:
1:31:14
I think it's fantastic. I love what they're doing with it and, yeah, phil, I can't wait for you to watch it. It's absolutely your thing, uh, and the protagonist is like really old compared to his peers, so you'll really relate to the main character like a lot.
Speaker 2:
1:31:27
He's not 16. I love it. He's like a 30 year old again.
Speaker 3:
1:31:30
Eric, when we met, I was older than you, but you now surpassed me in age, just based off your mannerisms. That way that you act. That's not how it works. I was older than you when we met. You are now 45, so I just want to make that clear wow, that's crazy well, ivan, uh, what are your other 20?
Speaker 2:
1:31:51
uh, no, that was it, oh, okay how dare? You, I had another. Well, I got, I can pull two. No, no, that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 3:
1:31:58
I was like yeah but that didn't work out here.
Speaker 2:
1:32:03
I told you I'm a rambler.
Speaker 3:
1:32:05
No, it's totally fine. We also got caught up in a lot more of the didn't make the cut stories than we normally do Because, again, may was nuts and guys. We're recording this on the 21st, so within the nine days, ten days we're going to miss something. So when you guys hear this episode of Memorial Day something huge is going to happen and we'll have totally missed it.
Speaker 3:
1:32:26
But all right gentlemen, you will now need your mobile devices so we can play the real version of Pop Culture. Jeopardy you sons of bitches over there, wherever this is going to release. Oh, hold on, hold on. I got to stop it because I didn't do the. I didn't turn the music off or the audio off. At least I caught it now. Let's do that. Eric, you should have this website saved at this point, to be honest with you in your browser. Ivan, are you able to Do? You guys need me to make this bigger.
Speaker 1:
1:33:03
It actually looks pretty good right now.
Speaker 3:
1:33:05
Oh, is that too big?
Speaker 1:
1:33:07
We're going to find out when you pull up the board.
Speaker 3:
1:33:10
That's true. Okay, ivan, I don't know if you can use that QR code. Our guests have had varying levels of success when it comes to the QR code, so y'all let me know, eric just pick the same character you pick every time. You don't have to scroll through all of them. I know there's a lot of choices. Oh, the QR code worked for me, we got time. No, just pick a character.
Speaker 1:
1:33:40
We have time Just. Pick a character, oh time Just pick a character?
Speaker 2:
1:33:43
No, we do not. Oh, these are cute.
Speaker 3:
1:33:46
Oh my God, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:
1:33:51
Is there a lizard? Oh, there's a shark.
Speaker 1:
1:33:52
I'm in, we're good. It's one of Assassin's Creed, oh God.
Speaker 3:
1:34:00
That's definitely Never mind. Why is it saying oh, his name is jordan I was like I was so confused I was like why did you join?
Speaker 3:
1:34:09
the game is jordan there's no yasuke option, sorry jesus, all right, so you guys know how uh, how jeopardy works. Hopefully you at home watching I didn't give the disclaimer in the beginning of the episode that this is where you guys know how Jeopardy works. Hopefully you at home watching I didn't give the disclaimer in the beginning of the episode that this is an episode you should definitely watch on YouTube. Now, if you're listening to the audio version of this episode, jeopardy is definitely a part of the episode where you should go to YouTube and watch, if you have the ability to, I mean you can listen know there's a lot of visuals.
Speaker 1:
1:34:43
You don't want to skip ahead like an hour and a half right into the episode and just watch this part.
Speaker 3:
1:34:48
I get it. I get it, but uh, I'll also play this out for my contestants right now, since there was so much confusion last time, do not buzz in until I finish reading the question. Until I finish reading the question well, that's bullshit we'll establish that right now, Eric.
Speaker 2:
1:35:05
Wait, it doesn't. I thought it'll turn red or something.
Speaker 3:
1:35:08
It will, but not yet.
Speaker 1:
1:35:09
We should be able to you should be able to. No, we shouldn't be able to answer until you're done stating the question, but we should be able to buzz when we got the buzz.
Speaker 2:
1:35:18
Yeah, like when it turns red, if we know the answer.
Speaker 1:
1:35:21
There's no way you're going to be able to enforce this.
Speaker 3:
1:35:22
That's true, I think we said the same thing last week, last month, so it's fine All right. Here are my categories this month.
Speaker 1:
1:35:30
Zoom out a little bit, just a tiny bit Zoom out Okay. Just a tiny tiny bit so we can see the categories.
Speaker 2:
1:35:36
Oh yeah, I can't see. No, no, you zoomed in, oh wait.
Speaker 3:
1:35:39
I'm zooming out.
Speaker 2:
1:35:41
Oh, maybe scroll up.
Speaker 3:
1:35:42
Scroll up. I can't. This is it.
Speaker 2:
1:35:44
Oh.
Speaker 3:
1:35:45
Well then, we'll just zoom out. Oh there we go, Is that better? Oh there we go, Is that better?
Speaker 2:
1:35:49
Yeah, okay, I think so.
Speaker 3:
1:35:50
So we have sitcom space ROM combinations Gotta catch them all, Bet you guys can probably guess what that one is and fast food, factile. Ivan, you are our guest, I will let you go first. Eric, I believe I have figured out the Daily Double. We'll see. I've said that six weeks, months in a row, that I think I got the Daily Double figured out and I have not. So we'll see what happens, ivan, let's throw it to you first as our guest Okay, gotta not, so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2:
1:36:21
ivan, let's throw it to you first as our guest. Okay, um, gotta catch them all for 100 what is the first pokemon ash ever caught?
Speaker 3:
1:36:30
uh oh wait, pikachu.
Speaker 1:
1:36:35
No, that can't be right. No, yeah, isn't.
Speaker 2:
1:36:39
Isn't it? Oh God, what's a Pokemon's name? Pidgeotto Caterpie? Oh, it was Caterpie. Oh my God, I forgot Caterpie. I love that damn Pokemon.
Speaker 3:
1:36:53
I was like, I'm so mad. Wasn't Pidgeotto like a second one. Yeah, pidgey, yeah, no, it Wasn't.
Speaker 2:
1:37:01
Pidgeotto like a second one. Yeah, pidgey, yeah, no, it was a Pidgeotto. I think it was a Pidgeotto, damn it.
Speaker 3:
1:37:04
Ivan, still your board, though.
Speaker 2:
1:37:06
Gotta catch them all 200.
Speaker 3:
1:37:07
Let's see if we get you guys both in the positives this round. That's my goal. All right, gotta catch them all 200. How does Pikachu evolve into a Raichu Ivan?
Speaker 2:
1:37:18
Sorry, I did that real fast. I heard it only evolves with like a Thunderstone or whatever the heck it's called. There you go. And he decided not to do it because Pikachu Would not be the same.
Speaker 3:
1:37:32
Ivan back to you. I mean I gotta catch them all 300. Whenever Team Rocket gets yeeted Into the sun in the anime, what do they yell? Ivan, oh, um, oh, crap. Whenever.
Speaker 2:
1:37:44
Team Rocket gets yeeted into the sun in the anime. What?
Speaker 3:
1:37:46
do they yell Ivan, oh crap, nope, team Rocket blasting off again. Okay, I was like is oh crap your answer. I was wrong. Yeah, got it All right, ivan 400.
Speaker 2:
1:37:57
Gotta catch them all.
Speaker 3:
1:37:59
Which Pokemon is featured on Pokemon Silver Eric, damn it Lugia. Well done Well done. You tramp Eric's bored.
Speaker 1:
1:38:15
I feel like I'll regret this, but yeah, gotta catch them all 500.
Speaker 3:
1:38:20
Charmeleon evolves into Charizard in the anime in order to fight what Pokemon Ivan?
Speaker 2:
1:38:25
Oh, I hit it without thinking.
Speaker 3:
1:38:28
Here we are.
Speaker 2:
1:38:30
Oh, I forgot what Pokemon he's fighting. Hold on, hold on, okay 10 seconds. I don't remember. I'm gonna just spit some random thing out. I don't remember. I'm gonna spit some random thing out. Um, I don't know, machamp, I don't know, I have no idea. Actually.
Speaker 3:
1:38:49
I just said it to say it Eric do you have a guess?
Speaker 1:
1:38:52
I do, but I'm not confident to lose the points on it, so I'm gonna sit on my hands for this one. Oh, I forgot we could pass, can't? We would not have guessed. Aerodactyl.
Speaker 2:
1:39:02
I completely forgot it was like Blastoise no. And I love that episode Damn it.
Speaker 3:
1:39:09
All right, Eric, it is your board still.
Speaker 1:
1:39:11
Yeah, let's go, let's do sitcom, space for 500.
Speaker 3:
1:39:19
God In the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. What do Will and Ashley trade her violin in for Ivan?
Speaker 2:
1:39:27
I didn't mean to hit it Do you know how Jeopardy works. I saw it turn red, I said oh yeah, oh, my God, I don't remember, I have no idea. Six seconds Address. I don't remember, I really don't remember.
Speaker 1:
1:39:50
Eric, what fucking question is this? No, I don't know the answer to this.
Speaker 3:
1:39:54
It's a $500 question. That's what it is A drum set.
Speaker 1:
1:39:58
Is a traded in. Oh my God, a drum set Is a traded in or a drum set, okay?
Speaker 3:
1:40:03
Alright, eric, back to you.
Speaker 1:
1:40:04
Let's get the fuck out of that category, rob combinations 500.
Speaker 3:
1:40:14
Cameron Diaz and Ben Stiller find each other years later after a disastrous prom night, in this 1998 classic.
Speaker 1:
1:40:22
Oh, what is that movie called?
Speaker 3:
1:40:26
You guys are going to be mad if you don't get this.
Speaker 1:
1:40:30
Oh, I know what this is. I don't know the title.
Speaker 2:
1:40:36
Me too. I remember the movie.
Speaker 1:
1:40:37
I remember the movie.
Speaker 2:
1:40:37
No guesses, that's a good 500.
Speaker 3:
1:40:39
Yeah, it's like oh, the movie, no guesses.
Speaker 1:
1:40:41
That's a good 500.
Speaker 2:
1:40:43
It's like no guesses. No, because I'm wrong. There's something about mayor. I knew it was. There's something I didn't know anything else. Eric.
Speaker 1:
1:40:57
Alright, let's get the fuck out of that category.
Speaker 3:
1:41:08
Fast food. However, you pronounce that last word for factile. That's what this is factile, it's technically not jeopardy. It's factile in 2020, in a 2022. That's supposed to say ranking, not taking your ranking. Uh, thrillist listed this fast food joint as having the best fries. Ivan, oh jesus, I'll give. I'll give you guys both a hint.
Speaker 2:
1:41:28
Think outside of the box here uh, I don't Wendy's, I don't know man, I don't know why I clicked there.
Speaker 1:
1:41:45
I will answer this Because I can't keep ducking it and Ivan is like in the tank right now. I know I'm gonna lose. I totally lose now I'll answer it. I'm not confident, but I feel like the answer to this would be hilarious If it was In-N-Out, considering who that's what I thought.
Speaker 3:
1:42:01
No.
Speaker 2:
1:42:01
Arby's.
Speaker 3:
1:42:03
Arby's curly fries?
Speaker 2:
1:42:05
I don't know about that Never even had them.
Speaker 1:
1:42:06
Never even had them Some animal style In-N-Out fries, I don't know about that?
Speaker 3:
1:42:10
I don't know about that. So, Eric, still you're bored. You have to pick one of these categories. You know, you should start with lower value questions. I know it's almost as if the game is set up that way.
Speaker 1:
1:42:22
You know what? Fast food for 100. Let's stick with it.
Speaker 3:
1:42:26
Which burger chain has a film named after it, starring Cal Penn and John Cho? Eric, you were first.
Speaker 1:
1:42:33
White Castle.
Speaker 3:
1:42:35
Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. All right, still your board 200. Fast food. Let's go In the 90s. This famous commercial featured a chihuahua mouthing yo quiero Ivan Taco Bell. I didn't change the picture.
Speaker 2:
1:42:52
What I was like. Wait, they gave that away at Taco Bell.
Speaker 1:
1:43:01
I was like when. Again you should really be watching on.
Speaker 3:
1:43:03
YouTube. If you're listening to this, if you're listening on Spotify or Apple, you really should be watching this on YouTube.
Speaker 2:
1:43:09
I was like when do they give this away at Taco Bell?
Speaker 1:
1:43:12
Eric, please clip this. You have one job, one job.
Speaker 3:
1:43:18
I'm expecting a chihuahua.
Speaker 1:
1:43:20
I hope the chihuahua because I'm pretty sure I pasted a picture of a chihuahua.
Speaker 3:
1:43:22
I hope the chihuahua, because I'm pretty sure I pasted a picture of a chihuahua somewhere. I hope it doesn't pop up somewhere.
Speaker 1:
1:43:29
We see the NHL game with Anakin Skywalker in the background that's so weird.
Speaker 2:
1:43:35
I know that was him. I was like why is he there?
Speaker 3:
1:43:36
no, it's not him, it's some random hockey player. Stop, it was like Anakin, I'm crying. Okay, it's not him, it's some random hockey player. Stop, it was like Anakin I'm crying. Okay, ivan, it's your board.
Speaker 2:
1:43:45
Oh God, I don't know Sitcom.
Speaker 3:
1:43:48
Space 100. What is the name of the coffee shop the Friends gang hangs out at all the time? Ivan Hawk Central Perk. It's almost as if that's a really easy question, so you should have picked that first, for sitcom space, probably, I know.
Speaker 2:
1:44:03
Ivan, you're born Sitcom space 200.
Speaker 3:
1:44:07
Leslie Knope is the director of Parks and Recreation in what fictional Indiana city?
Speaker 1:
1:44:12
Oh, I got it. That took way too long. Pawnee, eric.
Speaker 2:
1:44:17
That's what it was.
Speaker 1:
1:44:18
I was like my brain shut off honestly.
Speaker 3:
1:44:22
Very disappointed that took so long, Eric you're born, sitcom for 300. What is Dwight Schrute's official title at Dunder Mifflin Ivan?
Speaker 2:
1:44:32
Isn't it assistant to the regional manager there you go.
Speaker 3:
1:44:38
Okay, there you go. All right back to you, ivan. Come on, you can crawl out of this negatives. I believe in you 400.
Speaker 2:
1:44:44
Scary though, oh God, it's going to be 400. I'm scared.
Speaker 3:
1:44:48
What is the name of Captain Holt's nemesis in Brooklyn Nine-Nine?
Speaker 1:
1:44:54
Dude, I am not blanking on this.
Speaker 2:
1:44:57
right now People are going to attack me because I don't like the the show, so I don't watch it what yeah, what? Yeah, I really don't like it I'm thinking of all the burns.
Speaker 1:
1:45:07
Oh, I got it. I got it. Madeline, madeline. What captain? Madeline? No, I need to know the last name.
Speaker 3:
1:45:18
Come on now, give me that no, because the last name is where all the puns come from. I will give you 200 for this, but I'm not going to give you the full one.
Speaker 1:
1:45:27
Okay, I don't need the full. No, I'm blanking on the last one. I can't believe. I even thought Lunch, damn it.
Speaker 2:
1:45:35
Lunch rhymes with lunch. I've seen that episode. God almighty. Lunch time, yes, got it.
Speaker 1:
1:45:43
Got it Good to see you, but if you're here, who's guarding Hades? Who's?
Speaker 3:
1:45:48
guarding Hades.
Speaker 2:
1:45:50
I've seen that episode. I'm so mad I couldn't put that together.
Speaker 3:
1:45:52
Peace, andre, we love you. Eric, back to you.
Speaker 1:
1:45:56
Lunch, dude, I'm going to. That's going to hurt.
Speaker 3:
1:46:04
Fast lunch, dude, I'm gonna. That's gonna hurt. Uh, fast food for 300 popeyes. Prides itself on fried chicken made with seasonings from the cuisine of which state eric, louisiana maybe, maybe don't watch this. Uh on on youtube that part was embarrassing. Eric.
Speaker 1:
1:46:21
Oh my god.
Speaker 3:
1:46:25
Fast food for $400. Which fast food chain has a secret menu featuring animal style when you?
Speaker 1:
1:46:31
said it, I was like damn it.
Speaker 3:
1:46:35
This is a good time to mention, and look right into the camera. If you enjoy In-N-Out, you're a bad person and I will never believe any of your food.
Speaker 1:
1:46:39
The second it came up, I look right into the camera.
Speaker 3:
1:46:40
If you enjoy In-N-Out, you're a bad person and I will never believe any of your food.
Speaker 1:
1:46:43
The second it came up. I was like I gave that answer. No, please.
Speaker 2:
1:46:47
I've never eaten there. It's terrible and don't.
Speaker 3:
1:46:51
Yeah, you don't have to Eric. You have avoided this as long as you can.
Speaker 1:
1:46:56
Rom-Com 100.
Speaker 3:
1:46:59
Patrick Dempsey and Amy Adams Live out a fairy tale in this 2007 Disney classic, eric Enchanted.
Speaker 1:
1:47:09
Sorry, ivan.
Speaker 2:
1:47:10
I knew I was going to lose yo, I'm negative 200 200.
Speaker 1:
1:47:15
Eric.
Speaker 3:
1:47:16
Seth Rogen and Katherine Heigl navigate an Unexpected this is supposed to say life event In this 2007 Apatow entry Ivan.
Speaker 2:
1:47:24
I just realized I hit it with the wrong title in my head. Now I'm going to be really mad.
Speaker 3:
1:47:30
Take the 14 seconds.
Speaker 1:
1:47:32
I know the answer.
Speaker 2:
1:47:32
I can't spit it out, mother. Well, alright, I don't remember, so I'm just going to say I don't know anything.
Speaker 3:
1:47:42
You wanna throw out something, something from the Apatow.
Speaker 2:
1:47:45
No, because it's so stupid what I'm about to say.
Speaker 3:
1:47:47
What is it?
Speaker 2:
1:47:48
No, it's not it. I don't wanna say it, I'm embarrassed by it.
Speaker 1:
1:47:51
Eric, is it knocked up? Damn it.
Speaker 3:
1:47:56
What. Okay oh, you know what?
Speaker 1:
1:48:00
There it is Dude.
Speaker 3:
1:48:04
You don't remember Seth Rogen in Wolverine? Eric, I don't think it's mathematically possible for you to lose at this point.
Speaker 2:
1:48:13
Oh no, absolutely no, not at all 300?.
Speaker 1:
1:48:17
Rom-com 300. There's a daily double in here, right.
Speaker 3:
1:48:19
Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn form a bond through deceptive practices in this 2005 raunchy comedy, ivan.
Speaker 2:
1:48:25
Isn't it? Wedding Crashers? Yay, I got something I'm so freaking. Negative, ivan for 400.
Speaker 3:
1:48:33
This was the Daily Double. I'll just tell you. This is the Daily Double. Constance Wu and Henry Golding deal with a family trauma in this 2018 film, ivan.
Speaker 2:
1:48:41
Crazy the Daily Double. Constance Wu and Henry Golding deal with a family trauma in this 2018 film. Ivan Crazy Rich Asians right. I have zero dollars. Can I give you an?
Speaker 3:
1:48:47
extra. Yeah, I'll give you an extra. So it was four, so I'll give you an extra 400. So you're in the positive you have. I didn't come up with a final fact tile. I'm just now realizing that I didn't come up with a final fact.
Speaker 1:
1:49:00
Tile.
Speaker 3:
1:49:04
No up with a final factile. I'm just now realizing that I didn't know. Shot dude, there's no, you know. You know, now that we're here, I just realized I didn't come up with a final fact, so give me a second now. I, uh, I was like you know, this took me a while, but I'm pretty sure I'm done yeah with um it's great.
Speaker 1:
1:49:27
No, no, daily double. No, final fact I'm gonna I don't know how to do it I.
Speaker 3:
1:49:33
I click where it says okay, you know what? We're gonna look at this together. Actually, we'll do it a lot of like doing a test run of the presentation I have it will tell you play, it will tell you like preview game and I click it and it comes up, and then and it was you, you cuero nhl hits, that's crazy, all right hold on, I have I have one of the dome here.
Speaker 3:
1:50:04
No, because I have something that I almost, a category that I almost did, but I decided not to do it, so I'm pulling up this question never a good sign I got it. Everybody, everyone is doing great hold on a second. Where did it go we?
Speaker 2:
1:50:23
we are me and I were doing so well during the circumstances I mean I, I wasn't doing well I'm just gonna be honest ivan said he was exhausted.
Speaker 1:
1:50:35
Uh, he's got to be more exhausted now.
Speaker 2:
1:50:37
This is definitely you know what a A little bit yeah.
Speaker 1:
1:50:41
Yeah, this is tiring and I got a lot of sleep last night. I'm done.
Speaker 3:
1:50:47
Okay.
Speaker 1:
1:50:48
Here he goes, you got it All right.
Speaker 3:
1:50:50
So, Eric, how many? Eric has $1,300 to wager.
Speaker 1:
1:50:54
Waging it all.
Speaker 3:
1:50:55
Ivan, you have 400. Are you able to type in answers there?
Speaker 1:
1:51:00
Yep.
Speaker 3:
1:51:00
Or numbers there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. So, ivan, just so you know, eric is going to be reckless here and bet it all.
Speaker 2:
1:51:07
Well, I mean, why not? I'm not going to win, I want to double it.
Speaker 3:
1:51:12
So you do have an opportunity here. You know what I don't like that question. Let's go back and talk about Planet of the apes while I, while you guys listen I think noah is a great character.
Speaker 2:
1:51:26
Noah is great he just needed time to grow and I know the I know when we left the movie it was like oh, you know, there's possibly more I could have seen. Well, you know what? It was the first of the next set of the trilogies, so we got more to see to build on. So I do agree that when we go back on, it was the first of the next set of the trilogies, so we got more to see to build on. So I do agree that when we go back on it after the other ones come out, we'll be like, damn, that was a great movie yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1:
1:51:48
It was great. Yeah, proximus served, uh served what he needed to do. Uh, I would have liked to see more uh oh, for sure, for sure but yeah, I really love the, the group of of friends from the the first time that they're climbing for the eggs all the way to the end. Yeah, I thought that was great. Everything with the mom, yeah, everything, it was so good.
Speaker 2:
1:52:10
Yeah, my true criticism is only two things. Like I, wanted more, which isn't a bad thing because we're going to get it, and I do agree that the human characters were a little flat. Like I, I wanted to see what. What's her name? Was it a Freya Allen? I think her name was Freya Allen.
Speaker 2:
1:52:28
Yeah, I wanted to see what she was going to bring, like what her character was about, and we did get it a little later. And then I wanted, but, um, I do think they could have done more, but who's to say she won't be in the next ones? Or I don't know if she will, or what's happening. I mean, I'm not no spoilers here, guys, I don't know, um, I don't know what's happening there. So, like I, I, you know, like I think that they, they could write better humans, as it goes on anyway. But I mean, either way it was, it was, it wasn't that deterring. Take it as like damn, what a big negative against this movie. You know, because I was kind of going in. To be honest, I was going in hypercritical because I love the other three movies, the trilogy before. So I was going in with the like this better be good, because I swear you don't ruin this, because I love the other three, like I think they're a great trilogy, absolutely.
Speaker 1:
1:53:17
Yeah, I think Phil was talking about in pop culture culture. They're just not, they're not referenced enough, I feel yeah they are really good. So, yeah, who, uh, who knows where it's gonna go, but I think it's gonna be good, I think it's gonna be positive. Uh, and it's the second trilogy of three, so, and we know, planet of the apes can get pretty wild. So, yep, I think, as long as as long as we end with uh, abraham lincoln lincoln, I think we're gonna be no stop, don't do this.
Speaker 1:
1:53:44
I don't, don't reference that horrendous movie that I did enjoy when I was 14, when you were 14. Yeah, we all did.
Speaker 2:
1:53:50
Yeah, now I'm like, oh god, okay all right, I got it now you ready yes, I'm not gonna be.
Speaker 3:
1:53:57
It's not gonna be up on the screen. So I'm just going to ask you. I'm going to ask you for it, that's fine. So I'm going to ask it for you. So OK. Ok, here we go. In 2005, halle Berry won a Razzie and showed up to the Razzie Awards with her Oscar. What movie did she win her Razzie Awards with her Oscar? What movie did she win her Razzie for in 2005?
Speaker 2:
1:54:28
How do we answer it? You're just going to tell me.
Speaker 3:
1:54:31
Oh well, that's the one from last month.
Speaker 2:
1:54:36
Oh, I was trying to hit it. I was trying to hit the button. I know it too, so who's saying it? I could say it.
Speaker 3:
1:54:43
Yes, go ahead. Go ahead, ivan, I won. How did you win?
Speaker 2:
1:54:46
Don't worry about that, isn't it, catwoman?
Speaker 3:
1:54:50
Okay, Eric.
Speaker 1:
1:54:51
I was also going to say Catwoman, because I don't know what other movie she would have gotten.
Speaker 2:
1:54:56
Exactly.
Speaker 3:
1:55:01
Yeah, I exactly. Yeah, I agree it was cat woman and eric did win. This is this pissed me off so much. Team jordan made me so mad the whole time because I was, like jordan's, not in here eric finally won. How did he win? Well, he bet. Well, I'm assuming, you bet it all right.
Speaker 2:
1:55:13
He got it right too. Because he got it right too, is that why?
Speaker 3:
1:55:16
eric bet it all yes and so, but you did finish in the positives, so that is. That's so annoying.
Speaker 1:
1:55:22
I do think you should, we should moving forward. We should have had have everybody say their answer at the same time, Probably.
Speaker 3:
1:55:29
That's a good call, right, all right. So here's, let me, let me show you guys.
Speaker 2:
1:55:32
I won that, so I won.
Speaker 3:
1:55:44
So I don't know about that, but um so again whenever. So look. So this is what the editing screen looks like for this. So for daily double, you can select and see. I have it selected. You can select what is the daily double and it just, it doesn't come up.
Speaker 1:
1:55:53
So I don't think that's how that works it is, or even when I do random.
Speaker 3:
1:55:59
it also does not work, so I don't know. But you see that it's lit up that I selected that as the Daily Double All right.
Speaker 1:
1:56:05
now go back to the board Huh. So go back to the board.
Speaker 3:
1:56:11
And then it just doesn't. Does it say something here? No View mode choice view.
Speaker 2:
1:56:19
Yeah.
Speaker 3:
1:56:21
I don't know Anyway. So the point of this is that I won and listen. If you want to take any uh any participation trophies.
Speaker 2:
1:56:30
Home, ivan, they're all I don't believe in that. I don't believe in that, but somehow eric cheated. That's what it was. Well, the what was it that?
Speaker 3:
1:56:37
really, uh, eric went on a run. I think with what was it? I what it was. Well, what was it that really? Eric went on a run, I think with what was it? I think it was Sitcom Space or no, it was Food Factile you really wanted to run, yeah, food Factile, yeah, and so.
Speaker 1:
1:56:49
You not knowing Animal Fries was crazy. That's Well, I don't. He said he's never been In-N-Out. I've never been In-N- but I mean everybody a lot of times.
Speaker 2:
1:56:58
Well, I know, Wait what.
Speaker 1:
1:57:00
Everybody knows about in and out. Yeah, but not animal style, not an animal style.
Speaker 2:
1:57:05
I thought you were talking about something else Animal style I was like what are we talking about?
Speaker 3:
1:57:09
Oh, yeah, but that is the uh may edition of what did I miss? An episode in which I said, oh, this will be shorter because there's only three people and I'm pretty sure this is going to be the longest episode.
Speaker 1:
1:57:21
Bill tells me every pre-show to stop estimating the time.
Speaker 3:
1:57:26
And I did it, so that's my own fault.
Speaker 3:
1:57:28
So, ivan, thank you so much for your time this month and we appreciate you coming on and having fun. We obviously wanted to have another one of our lovely convention friends this week but it couldn't happen. But it will happen very, very soon. I hope you had a good time because we're going to rotate guests, repeated guests, here, because this is a lot of fun. So please let our audience know that if they for some reason don't know you and this is the first time they got to interact with you let them know where they can find all your work and, again, where you're going to be as far as conventions, where you're going to pop up soon.
Speaker 2:
1:58:01
So okay. So, if you don't know, I'm an artist, I will be at. Well, okay. First off, you can follow me on IvanPatch underscore artist, on Instagram and on TikTok, I believe, but I don't really use TikTok. I mean, come on, I try it's not my favorite thing.
Speaker 2:
1:58:17
It's not my favorite thing. I try, um, but I'm also ivan patch on youtube. I went to make a bunch of vlogs today. Actually, an episode came out, um, you know, um, yeah, you can follow me on those things. Uh, I will be. My next con is in north carolina, um, raleigh, north carolina at an amazement, but I think that will have passed when you post this. Uh, I mean, I'll be at a bunch of cons in florida this year this summer. So, uh, have bold matsuri and metro con, tempe comic-con. Metro con is in tampa, uh, so, yeah, no, those are. Yeah, you can follow me on those.
Speaker 3:
1:58:52
Yeah, there you go and of course uh, here in jacksonville, if you are listening locally, bold matsuri, june 22, 23rd Am.
Speaker 1:
1:59:00
I making those dates up.
Speaker 3:
1:59:01
That sounds right, right, yep June 22nd and 23rd, ivan and I will be officiating a wedding near you in the fall as well.
Speaker 2:
1:59:10
Oh, I was like wait at the con At the same time.
Speaker 3:
1:59:14
If you guys want to, we're officiants. If you guys want to get married at Bolt Metzery, you let us know.
Speaker 1:
1:59:21
That'll be after Ivan's dinner that he's paying for.
Speaker 2:
1:59:24
That's true. No, we said I wasn't going to be paying for it.
Speaker 3:
1:59:26
Actually, Ivan will pay for the reception for your wedding.
Speaker 2:
1:59:30
Oh, that is a bold statement.
Speaker 3:
1:59:33
No, no so it'll be great, but no, guys, this was a lot of fun. I'm really happy we're getting to continue this and, uh, you know, eventually we'll work out the kinks in final factile um or jeopardy will completely, uh, just step in and make me stop doing this. All together we'll see what happens. But if you this is the first episode you listen to for the way for a podcast, I apologize. Uh, we're usually a much more cohesive unit and you can find all of our content through the link tree link in the show notes of this episode. You will find all of our previous, all of our monthly episodes, such as the game room where it happens late to the party, and a couple of other ones that are a whole lot of fun. Also, make sure to follow us on social media, the most important ones being Instagram, tik TOK, our growing Discord page, as well as our Twitch stream, which our friend of the show, jordan, and I do every Thursday night at 8pm Eastern.
Speaker 3:
2:00:28
It has been a whole lot of fun Lately. We have been playing Raft, which has been over on PC, and just a really, really fun and chaotic game. So if you want to come hang out with us on Thursday nights, that is where we will be. If you want to support the show, you can do a couple of things Head on over to Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Leave those five-star reviews. That is a great way to shoot us up the charts in terms of algorithm, as well as sharing our content on social media tagging us, letting people know that you're listening, letting us know that you're listening. All that is incredibly helpful, but if you want to go above and beyond and maybe get some additional perks when it comes to the podcast, eric will let you know how you can do that.
Speaker 1:
2:01:04
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Speaker 1:
2:01:44
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2:02:03
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