Speaker 1
0:00
But
welcome
to
today's
podcast
replay
from
the
Killer
Bee
Studios
.
Let's
go
ahead
and
dive
on
in
.
Hey
everybody
,
thanks
for
joining
us
tonight
here
at
the
Killer
Bee
Studios
.
I'm
so
excited
you
guys
are
all
here
.
Speaker 1
0:13
Our
guests
will
be
Yvonne
and
Josh
,
and
10
years
ago
and
here's
what
I'm
talking
about
this
is
a
real
personal
story
10
years
ago
,
they
faced
one
of
the
worst
,
probably
nightmares
a
parent
could
have
,
and
that
is
when
their
child
,
nick
,
was
diagnosed
with
something
called
Alexander's
disease
.
Now
,
I
don't
know
what
Alexander's
disease
is
they're
going
to
inform
us
about
that
throughout
the
show
but
despite
that
,
this
situation
,
which
was
unimaginable
,
this
unimaginable
challenge
that
they
were
facing
this
brought
them
closer
together
.
It
strengthened
their
bond
with
each
other
and
it
deepened
their
faith
.
So
I
wanted
to
ask
you
guys
to
please
join
me
in
giving
them
a
warm
Introduction: Meet Yvonne & Josh Jones
Speaker 1
0:56
welcome
.
Let's
throw
some
confetti
as
we
bring
in
our
guests
Yvonne
and
Josh
to
Killer
Bee
Studios
.
Let's
throw
some
confetti
,
guys
.
Thank
you
guys
so
much
for
coming
out
and
joining
us
today
.
Thank
you
guys
for
joining
us
and
being
out
here
today
with
us
.
Speaker 2
1:07
Thanks
for
having
us
here
.
Speaker 1
1:09
So
I
know
you
guys
.
I've
met
you
guys
in
real
life
,
right
?
So
we
met
in
real
life
because
we
all
work
in
broadcasting
,
so
we
kind
of
know
each
other
,
but
we're
going
to
know
each
other
more
,
I
think
,
because
of
horizons
,
than
even
in
real
life
yep
wow
,
how
long
.
Okay
.
So
,
yvonne
,
what's
your
meta
age
right
now
?
Speaker 2
1:28
um
two
in
september
wow
yeah
,
because
josh
got
me
my
headset
for
my
birthday
in
september
nice
.
Speaker 1
1:38
Now
,
josh
,
how
long
have
you
been
on
?
Because
I
mean
you're
still
working
out
right
now
.
I
know
like
you're
still
learning
controls
and
well
,
you'll
be
,
I
suppose
,
two
in
,
de
suppose
because
you
got
your
three
months
after
.
Speaker 3
1:47
Yeah
,
not
much
longer
after
you
,
because
I
like
yours
so
much
as
I
got
to
get
one
for
myself
.
Speaker 1
1:51
So
yeah
,
awesome
,
awesome
,
here's
two
well
and
we're
so
happy
that
you
guys
are
here
and
part
of
the
community
.
I
want
to
say
again
thank
you
,
because
you
guys
just
courage
to
come
share
nick's
story
with
us
tonight
,
and
your
journey
is
,
for
me
,
it's
inspiring
,
but
it's
also
humbling
that
you
guys
would
come
to
the
studios
here
to
open
your
hearts
,
to
share
this
.
So
so
,
to
start
What Was Nick Like?
Speaker 1
2:12
out
,
I'd
like
to
ask
you
guys
could
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
Nick
?
What
was
he
like
and
what
are
some
of
your
cherished
moments
together
with
Nick
?
Speaker 2
2:38
Um
well
,
he
was
the
sweetest
little
boy
and
had
the
biggest
smile
and
he
was
a
big
flirt
kitchen
floor
and
pulling
her
fur
and
she
head
butted
him
and
he
made
the
funniest
.
Look
like
what
did
you
just
do
to
me
?
Like
he
was
so
offended
by
this
.
Speaker 1
2:54
It
was
hilarious
What Is Alexander Disease?
Speaker 1
2:56
when
you
guys
shared
your
story
with
me
a
little
bit
about
the
alexander's
disease
.
I
don't
,
I
don't
really
know
what
,
what
that
is
.
Uh
,
can
you
guys
explain
to
us
what
,
like
what
is
the
alexander's
disease
and
how
it
affected
nick
?
Speaker 3
3:10
take
him
from
day
one
,
okay
,
when
he
was
born
,
up
until
yeah
um
alexander's
disease
.
Speaker 2
3:16
I'll
explain
what
that
is
first
.
Alexander
disease
is
a
terminal
brain
disorder
.
So
if
you
think
of
um
,
so
his
brain
did
not
produce
myelin
.
Myelin
if
you
think
of
myelin
is
like
if
you
think
of
a
wire
and
it
has
like
a
coating
around
it
to
protect
the
wires
inside
of
it
.
Right
,
his
brain
did
not
produce
that
to
protect
his
brain
nerves
from
damage
.
That's
the
best
way
to
describe
it
.
When
Nick
was
about
six
months
old
,
he
wasn't
meeting
milestones
like
most
babies
do
,
like
sitting
up
and
crawling
and
all
of
that
and
being
able
to
hold
his
head
up
straight
.
Speaker 2
3:58
He
wasn't
doing
that
and
his
pediatrician
was
like
you
know
.
This
reminds
me
of
a
disorder
that
I
read
about
and
we're
like
what
do
you
mean
?
And
he
said
yeah
,
this
Alexander
disease
that
he
read
about
when
he
was
in
medical
school
and
he
said
I
would
love
to
send
him
for
text
testing
for
it
because
he
has
these
symptoms
and
before
we
could
even
start
that
process
at
10
months
old
he
had
a
stroke
.
We
could
even
start
that
process
at
10
months
old
he
had
a
stroke
Wow
.
Speaker 2
4:27
Yeah
,
so
we
ended
up
in
the
hospital
for
gosh
that
was
the
first
time
.
Yeah
,
yeah
,
like
three
months
.
Speaker 3
4:34
That's
when
.
That's
really
when
all
the
everything
kind
of
came
to
a
understanding
that
we
knew
that
there
was
something
wrong
and
we
didn't
know
what
it
was
.
So
it
was
time
to
start
investigating
.
Speaker 2
4:47
Yeah
,
we
didn't
end
up
getting
the
genetic
testing
because
that's
the
only
way
to
test
,
for
it
is
through
genetic
testing
.
We
didn't
end
up
getting
that
done
because
of
insurance
issues
until
he
was
about
two
years
old
.
Speaker 1
4:59
Okay
.
Speaker 2
5:01
And
at
that
point
we
got
the
results
and
it
was
exactly
what
his
pediatrician
thought
it
was
and
within
maybe
two
months
of
getting
diagnosed
,
he
lost
the
ability
to
swallow
.
So
he
couldn't
eat
,
or
eat
food
or
anything
,
take
anything
orally
.
So
he
ended
up
with
a
feeding
tube
and
it
just
progressed
from
there
wow
,
then
that
actually
was
what
.
Speaker 3
5:28
One
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
ask
you
guys
too
is
like
going
through
this
you
guys
had
never
heard
of
this
alexander
disease
either
no
you
know
what
I
would
tell
anybody
who's
not
sure
about
something
don't
google
it
yeah
,
because
you're
you're
gonna
get
the
worst
possible
and
of
course
we
googled
it
and
you
know
and
and
then
you
just
like
oh
no
what
about
this
information
now
.
Speaker 3
5:55
so
that's
kind
of
that's
how
it
all
started
as
far
as
trying
to
gather
information
and
trying
to
understand
what
alexander
disease
was
.
You
know
his
brain
was
basically
short-circuiting
,
it
was
getting
zapped
because
you
know
his
brain
wasn't
making
the
mile
in
to
keep
things
from
colliding
,
and
you
know
so
he
was
shorting
out
inside
his
head
as
you
guys
started
What Kind of Challenges Did You Face as a Family?
Speaker 3
6:19
learning
about
this
.
Speaker 1
6:20
what
kind
of
challenges
did
you
face
as
a
family
?
Like
because
I
couldn't
imagine
I
mean
going
.
I'm
imagining
that
you
probably
have
a
lot
of
in
and
out
of
time
at
the
hospital
and
stuff
.
So
like
take
us
back
to
that
.
Like
how
did
it
really
,
what
were
some
of
those
challenges
that
you
guys
were
facing
?
Speaker 2
6:35
Well
,
nick
ended
up
in
the
hospital
when
he
had
the
feeding
tube
,
and
so
we
were
in
there
for
a
couple
of
months
and
then
home
,
and
then
he
ended
up
having
to
have
a
trach
surgery
.
So
he
had
a
trach
so
he
can
breathe
,
and
then
he
was
vent
dependent
and
I
was
the
one
that
had
to
be
in
the
hospital
with
him
because
I
wasn't
working
,
because
he
was
sick
his
whole
life
.
And
so
josh
was
an
hour
away
here
where
we
live
now
where
we
live
,
and
I
was
an
hour
,
you
know
,
in
fargo
,
while
he
was
home
having
to
work
.
Speaker 1
7:08
I
had
to
be
at
the
hospital
with
nick
,
so
we
didn't
see
each
other
until
saturdays
and
then
he
had
to
go
home
on
sundays
well
,
that
had
to
be
tough
,
as
as
a
couple
because
I
mean
that's
the
one
thing
you
want
is
when
you're
going
through
something
as
a
couple
,
you
want
to
,
you
want
to
I
mean
you're
obviously
going
through
it
together
but
you're
separated
.
So
how
,
how
difficult
was
that
Cause
?
I
mean
there
had
to
be
times
that
you
felt
like
as
a
as
a
dad
,
as
a
father
,
that
had
to
hit
you
in
some
ways
too
.
That
was
probably
different
.
Speaker 3
7:36
When
I
realized
that
,
um
,
as
you
know
,
guys
want
to
fix
stuff
.
That's
just
how
we're
wired
.
You
know
we
want
to
fix
stuff
.
That's
just
how
we're
wired
.
You
know
we
want
to
fix
things
.
And
this
was
something
that
I
could
not
fix
,
so
I
did
what
I
could
to
make
the
situation
.
You
know
,
I
,
I
went
to
work
,
I
made
,
I
made
money
,
I
tried
to
keep
the
you
know
,
keep
the
boat
floating
,
I
guess
,
so
to
speak
.
You
know
.
And
then
um
,
I
wasn't
always
available
to
.
I
mean
,
I
was
only
an
hour
away
,
so
if
I
needed
to
cannonball
down
there
I
could
,
but
for
the
most
part
we
were
living
separate
for
the
time
that
Nick
was
in
the
hospital
and
six
months
that
was
,
that
was
a
long
time
.
Speaker 3
8:19
I
mean
,
it
was
,
you
know
,
the
the
first
time
he
he
was
in
,
for
he
was
in
the
hospital
for
about
six
months
and
then
,
um
,
we
did
finally
get
him
stable
so
we
could
bring
him
home
,
you
know
.
But
you
know
,
for
for
six
months
of
his
life
we
were
apart
,
basically
apart
,
for
six
months
trying
to
figure
out
a
plan
of
action
for
him
wow
,
and
how
old
was
he
at
this
time
?
Speaker 2
8:46
Three
.
Speaker 1
8:47
Three
or
two
?
No
,
he
was
two
at
that
time
.
Yeah
,
he
was
two
.
Speaker 2
8:51
Yeah
,
and
it
was
.
We
were
juggling
different
things
.
He's
at
home
juggling
,
working
full
time
and
paying
bills
and
everything
,
and
I
was
at
the
hospital
watching
over
Nick
and
setting
up
different
appointments
and
surgeries
because
he
had
multiple
surgeries
too
.
Speaker 3
9:08
She
had
to
make
all
these
decisions
.
Speaker 2
9:10
Without
him
.
You
know
,
she
called
me
,
I
mean
obviously
we
made
the
decisions
together
over
the
phone
,
but
he
just
couldn't
physically
be
there
.
Speaker 1
9:18
Right
right
,
Is
this
a
disease
that's
pretty
common
?
Speaker 2
9:22
No
,
it's
very
,
very
rare
.
It
is
a
male
dominant
gene
mutation
which
josh
is
a
carrier
of
um
.
So
if
we
ever
had
any
more
children
,
the
likelihood
of
having
another
child
disorder
is
almost
100
oh
wow
,
really
.
Speaker 1
9:41
They
said
it
was
like
99.6
something
.
Wow
,
wow
,
I
did
not
know
that
.
Speaker 2
9:48
But
we
know
of
over
probably
over
100
families
that
have
a
child
with
this
disorder
still
living
,
or
yeah
.
Speaker 1
9:57
So
was
it
like
so
the
hospital
you
guys
were
going
to
,
did
you
guys
get
a
lot
of
support
from
the
hospital
too
?
Did
you
guys
get
a
lot
of
support
from
the
hospital
too
?
Absolutely
yes
.
Speaker 2
10:06
The
staff
was
amazing
.
A
lot
of
the
doctors
and
nurses
that
we
dealt
with
have
become
like
family
to
us
.
Speaker 3
10:12
Oh
,
that's
awesome
yeah
,
and
they
didn't
know
anything
about
this
disease
either
.
Really
it
took
somebody
very
specialized
to
understand
it
,
because
they've
dealt
it
and
researched
it
and
dug
into
it
in
between
.
You
know
,
uh
nick
got
to
,
he
got
to
fly
everywhere
.
He
,
you
know
,
we
got
uh
flighted
,
flighted
down
to
rochester
to
the
mayo
clinic
down
there
,
mayo
Clinic
who
has
patients
with
this
disease
.
Speaker 2
10:56
Yeah
,
she
actually
wrote
a
book
about
Alexander
disease
and
she
studied
it
.
Coping with Tragedy: Friends & Community
Speaker 1
11:02
I
want
to
continue
to
dig
into
this
story
a
little
bit
.
Disease
and
she
studied
it
.
I
want
to
continue
to
dig
into
this
story
a
little
bit
.
You
know
,
I
think
it's
important
to
talk
about
these
things
because
life
isn't
always
going
to
go
as
we
would
hope
and
during
those
times
it's
leaning
into
communities
and
friends
and
people
being
there
in
your
corner
that
really
helps
pull
you
through
.
At
least
that's
from
my
experience
,
and
it
sounds
like
you
guys
are
already
talking
about
that
right
now
.
With
the
connections
you
made
at
the
hospitals
,
People
you
didn't
even
know
started
becoming
friends
.
You
said
you're
still
friends
with
a
lot
of
them
today
.
Speaker 2
11:31
I'm
still
friends
with
a
lot
of
them
today
.
That's
amazing
Between
the
hospital
staff
and
our
church
family
.
We
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
get
through
that
without
all
of
them
.
Speaker 1
11:42
So
I
want
to
encourage
you
guys
,
as
we
continue
to
listen
to
this
story
,
think
about
that
.
Like
I
don't
know
,
the
thing
about
here
is
in
Horizons
is
like
,
okay
,
yeah
,
we're
all
avatars
,
but
we're
real
people
in
real
life
and
we
all
deal
with
stuff
too
.
So
,
even
if
you
can't
find
friends
that
connect
with
in
real
life
,
connect
with
people
in
here
.
There's
amazing
people
in
here
that
want
to
be
there
to
help
each
other
.
So
,
whatever
you're
going
through
,
find
someone
you
can
trust
to
lean
on
,
to
share
and
share
those
things
with
.
You
know
,
as
you
guys
are
going
through
this
,
I
was
talking
to
Mrs
Killer
Beast
.
I'm
so
sad
that
she's
not
here
because
I
know
she
was
really
,
you
know
,
excited
to
talk
to
you
guys
about
this
.
Speaker 1
12:16
But
one
of
the
things
that
me
and
her
were
talking
about
as
we
were
processing
your
,
when
you
guys
submitted
the
application
to
come
share
your
story
,
and
we
were
going
through
that
One
of
the
things
that
we
were
talking
about
is
some
of
our
own
tragedies
that
we've
went
in
our
life
,
that
we've
went
through
,
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
that
.
We
can
talk
about
that
later
.
But
one
of
the
things
I
did
want
to
point
out
is
that
when
we
were
going
through
these
things
in
our
lives
that
we
did
not
expect
to
happen
,
when
that
trauma
hit
in
our
lives
,
we
noticed
that
we
both
cope
totally
different
with
trauma
and
I
would
love
to
ask
you
guys
did
you
guys
notice
that
any
ways
that
you
guys
were
coping
differently
?
Speaker 2
12:51
Oh
yeah
.
Speaker 3
12:52
Yeah
,
you're
talking
like
after
he
passed
,
kind
of
thing
,
or
during
.
Speaker 1
12:58
You
could
be
both
.
However
,
I
know
ours
was
after
a
passing
,
but
because
we
both
were
excited
beforehand
and
well
,
I
guess
I
might
as
well
just
say
it
because
I
won't
go
into
it
,
but
we
had
a
miscarriage
and
so
we
were
really
excited
,
but
then
when
we
lost
the
baby
,
it
was
very
,
it
was
different
for
both
of
us
.
So
I'm
sure
like
,
how
was
that
for
you
guys
?
Speaker 2
13:19
During
everything
,
while
it
was
all
going
on
,
I
didn't
really
focus
because
I
was
.
My
brain
was
all
focused
on
Nick
and
what
you
know
he
needed
at
that
time
Doctors
,
you
know
,
surgeries
,
you
name
it
.
I
didn't
have
time
to
even
think
about
my
emotions
at
the
time
of
what
was
going
on
.
It
wasn't
until
after
he
passed
away
,
it
all
flooded
oh
wow
,
she
didn't
sleep
,
you
know
,
she
was
in
the
fight
or
flight
mode
.
Speaker 3
13:49
You
know
the
whole
time
.
It
took
me
literally
literally
for
five
years
while
he
was
here
.
Every
day
it
was
fight
or
flight
mode
for
her
,
you
know
having
to
make
all
these
decisions
.
Having
to
be
strong
,
having
to
have
your
guard
up
,
having
to
.
You
know
what
I
mean
make
all
these
decisions
and
you
know
.
Speaker 2
14:07
And
yeah
,
wow
,
yeah
I
felt
like
my
phone
was
attached
to
my
head
because
I
couldn't
put
it
down
,
because
I
,
if
I
put
it
down
,
what
if
I
miss
a
call
from
?
A
doctor
about
a
surgery
or
whatever
.
Speaker 1
14:21
Wow
.
Speaker 2
14:22
So
then
,
after
he
had
passed
,
and
it
all
was
After-
he
passed
and
it
was
weird
because
there
was
this
quietness
and
it
was
an
unsettling
quietness
for
me
.
Speaker 3
14:36
I
really
the
way
I
dealt
with
it
.
I
guess
,
during
those
times
of
high
stress
,
tough
decisions
,
what
do
you
do
?
What
doctors
does
he
have
to
see
next
?
Is
he
going
to
have
to
go
be
life
flighted
somewhere
?
I
mean
,
when
we
went
to
the
hospital
,
we
lived
in
the
hospital
for
months
at
a
time
.
This
was
not
just
a
couple
days
here
.
You're
fine
,
go
home
.
Speaker 2
15:06
This
was
between
three
and
six-month
spurts
.
Speaker 3
15:10
Yeah
,
he
would
have
to
have
a
surgery
.
He
had
shunts
placed
in
his
head
.
He
had
a
trach
.
Speaker 2
15:18
If
you
don't
know
what
a
shunt
is
,
it's
a
device
that
goes
in
the
head
,
underneath
the
skin
,
to
um
drain
fluid
from
the
brain
,
because
he
had
um
hydrocephaly
,
which
is
fluid
on
the
brain
,
and
it
puts
pressure
on
the
brain
which
can
harm
you
,
and
then
it
drains
it
down
to
your
,
your
,
your
cerebral
spinal
fluid
.
Wow
,
I
couldn't
think
.
Yeah
.
The
body
drains
it
out
naturally
.
Speaker 3
15:46
He
went
in
for
a
couple
of
those
surgeries
and
he
had
this
,
and
he
had
that
and
he
had
.
You
know
,
it
was
like
this
long
list
.
He's
probably
had
over
20
surgeries
and
he
was
flown
everywhere
because
he
couldn't
travel
.
You
know
,
he
couldn't
.
He
couldn't
drive
anywhere
,
so
he'd
get
a
plane
ride
here
helicopter
ride
there
whatever
whatever
it
was
.
Speaker 3
16:10
But
how
I
coped
during
those
times
like
if
we
happen
to
be
close
to
home
,
when
I
could
work
,
as
crazy
as
it
sounds
,
I
would
deal
with
the
hard
stuff
,
plow
through
it
and
then
I
would
run
to
the
golf
course
as
fast
as
I
could
to
clear
my
head
for
a
couple
hours
before
having
to
dive
back
into
reality
,
I
guess
would
be
the
way
to
describe
it
and
I
didn't
want
to
do
any
of
those
things
.
Speaker 2
16:36
I
just
wanted
to
be
right
there
with
him
in
that
room
and
the
nurses
would
literally
grab
me
and
pull
me
out
of
there
and
they're
like
go
away
in
a
nice
way
go
away
for
a
couple
of
hours
,
go
do
something
.
I
don't
care
what
you
do
,
but
get
out
of
here
.
Speaker 1
16:50
Oh
yeah
,
that's
,
that's
tough
.
Speaker 2
16:52
That
was
like
one
of
the
hardest
things
is
leaving
that
room
,
but
knowing
he
was
in
good
hands
.
Speaker 1
16:58
Yeah
,
wow
.
Speaker 1
16:59
I
couldn't
even
imagine
.
That
.
I
mean
,
it
makes
me
think
about
,
like
you
know
,
when
we
got
in
here
into
Horizons
,
one
of
the
main
reasons
we
got
involved
was
I
put
on
a
headset
and
I
couldn't
shake
the
feeling
that
there
were
going
to
be
people
.
And
there
are
people
we've
already
met
several
of
them
that
have
come
into
Horizons
and
they
put
on
the
headset
to
try
to
escape
things
that
they're
going
through
in
life
,
but
when
they
take
off
the
headset
they
still
have
those
problems
.
So
it's
like
how
do
we
come
in
here
and
be
real
with
people
and
be
a
light
and
help
each
other
and
do
life
together
as
much
as
we
can
from
all
places
around
the
world
?
And
these
headsets
,
this
is
another
place
to
escape
,
but
it's
also
another
place
to
connect
.
Speaker 1
17:39
Uh
,
so
,
as
you
guys
are
going
through
this
,
how
did
you
,
how
did
you
guys
deal
with
the
grief
?
Like
during
that
time
if
you
guys
don't
mind
sharing
like
what
were
some
of
the
things
you
found
?
Like
you
said
,
to
kind
of
get
a
break
,
you
would
go
golfing
.
Uh
Coping with Grief
Speaker 1
17:52
,
after
he
,
after
he
,
after
he
passed
,
how
did
you
guys
cope
with
the
grief
?
Did
you
guys
do
that
?
Was
it
the
same
or
was
it
different
?
Speaker 3
18:03
There
was
something
.
Perfect
timing
happened
.
When
he
did
pass
away
,
he
was
staying
in
a
nursing
facility
about
two
hours
away
from
us
because
we
couldn't
provide
the
care
at
our
home
,
about
two
hours
away
from
us
.
So
cause
we
couldn't
provide
the
care
at
our
home
.
Speaker 2
18:20
So
the
backstory
is
Nick
required
24
hour
nursing
care
because
he
was
trach
and
ventilator
dependent
since
he
was
from
three
to
almost
five
.
We
couldn't
get
nursing
care
for
him
in
our
home
any
longer
because
it
had
to
be
24
hours
and
it
just
wasn't
available
.
And
so
there
was
a
live
inin
facility
here
in
North
Dakota
,
two
,
three
hours
away
from
us
,
for
kids
with
special
needs
,
and
so
we
ended
up
making
the
decision
to
move
him
there
,
and
so
we
would
go
up
every
weekend
and
visit
and
then
drive
home
drive
home
.
Speaker 3
19:05
Yeah
,
well
,
and
uh
it
uh
just
shy
of
his
fifth
birthday
.
Um
,
the
doctors
at
the
facility
noticed
that
he
was
,
he
was
starting
to
decline
,
you
know
,
and
everything
,
and
and
uh
.
So
we
were
again
.
We
were
on
watch
24
7
on
guard
.
Uh
,
ready
to
go
,
ready
to
jump
?
I
mean
we
can
still
pack
a
bag
uh
to
to
go
in
like
three
minutes
.
Yeah
,
really
,
yeah
,
oh
my
gosh
,
yeah
,
we
were
anywhere
we
were
the
the
the
day
that
he
passed
away
.
Speaker 2
19:31
We
were
there
visiting
him
.
We
left
that
morning
and
he
was
really
sleepy
that
day
.
They
said
,
and
so
we're
like
,
okay
,
we
,
we're
still
going
to
come
,
we're
going
to
come
and
see
him
.
And
we
knew
he
had
an
infection
.
He
had
an
infection
in
his
trach
,
which
was
very
common
,
and
we
were
like
,
okay
,
we're
just
going
to
go
.
So
we
went
there
.
Everything
was
fine
.
He
slept
the
whole
time
we
were
there
.
But
I
know
he
knew
we
were
there
because
when
I
was
talking
to
him
he
would
squeeze
my
hand
,
and
so
then
we
were
there
until
the
afternoon
.
We
left
at
three
,
like
we
always
would
do
,
and
we
got
home
and
my
phone
rang
and
it
was
his
doctor
and
she
said
you
need
to
come
back
.
So
we
got
on
the
road
and
went
back
.
Speaker 2
20:16
And
we
were
there
Ten
minutes
and
in
10
minutes
he
passed
away
Like
that
quick
.
Speaker 3
20:26
It
was
time
.
And
there
was
no
other
way
to
describe
it
other
than
the
doctors
called
,
and
that's
pretty
much
how
she
said
it
.
She
says
you
guys
need
to
come
back
.
She
didn't
go
into
any
detail
,
but
we
knew
from
the
sound
of
her
voice
what
was
going
to
happen
.
Wow
How Did This Effect Your Faith?
Speaker 3
20:46
,
yeah
.
Speaker 1
20:47
We
have
believers
that
come
here
,
we
have
people
that
aren't
believers
,
and
for
me
,
I
just
want
to
talk
to
you
guys
about
that
,
because
I
know
you
guys
are
believers
,
you
guys
are
in
Christian
broadcasting
,
and
how
did
this
experience
affect
your
faith
and
did
it
change
your
relationship
with
God
?
Because
I
mean
,
there's
been
times
in
my
life
when
I
go
through
things
and
I'm
confused
and
going
God
,
what
the
heck
is
going
on
?
Why
is
this
happening
?
Like
,
take
me
back
to
that
.
How
did
this
affect
your
faith
in
your
relationship
with
God
?
Speaker 2
21:19
It's
weird
saying
this
,
but
I
never
questioned
because
I
don't
know
why
,
but
I
just
like
I
had
this
feeling
like
,
even
though
this
is
happening
,
this
was
you
know
.
Speaker 3
21:30
I
know
it's
cliche
to
say
,
but
it
wasn't
god's
plan
,
and
I
just
felt
like
that
we
had
I
guess
I
just
always
had
peace
with
it
well
,
Well
we
had
a
,
you
know
,
we've
had
an
amazing
church
family
for
many
,
many
years
,
so
we
were
surrounded
by
prayer
warriors
all
the
time
and
you
know
we
called
on
them
all
the
time
.
You
know
Nick's
not
doing
well
,
all
I'd
have
to
do
is
throw
up
a
message
on
wherever
Facebook
,
throw
a
text
whatever
,
and
I
knew
that
all
the
prayer
warriors
would
be
there
lifting
Nick
up
,
lifting
us
up
,
you
know
.
And
to
have
that
,
to
know
that
there
are
people
with
you
in
it
,
even
though
they're
not
in
it
,
but
they're
there
with
you
.
Speaker 3
22:38
You
know
I're
not
in
it
,
but
they're
there
with
you
,
you
know
I
guess
that
would
be
the
best
way
to
describe
it
to
have
that
support
is
so
incredible
and
as
far
as
our
faith
goes
,
I
mean
I
I
I
guess
I'm
I
never
really
struggled
with
it
because
,
you
know
,
I
,
I
knew
I
knew
the
Lord
and
I
knew
his
plans
were
going
to
be
good
.
He's
going
to
take
.
He's
going
to
take
whatever
was
meant
to
be
bad
and
to
destroy
you
and
flip
it
and
turn
it
into
something
good
,
and
we
saw
evidence
of
that
the
whole
time
Nick
was
alive
you
know
because
we
would
.
Speaker 3
23:20
He
had
everybody
.
All
my
friends
knew
him
,
everybody
knew
him
.
You
know
,
whether
it
was
knowing
him
in
person
,
most
of
them
had
never
met
him
yeah
but
they
knew
him
through
us
,
yeah
we
were
open
books
.
Speaker 2
23:36
We
we
always
shared
on
facebook
and
caring
bridge
about
everything
,
what
was
going
on
every
single
day
.
Josh
was
really
good
about
updating
everybody
.
I
was
not
.
I
was
a
little
busy
.
Well
,
if
I
didn't
update
,
people
would
message
me
and
say
hey
,
what's
going
on
,
you
know
so
everybody
was
plugged
in
and
ready
to
go
,
Kind
of
like
you're
you
know
whatever
situation
you
know
.
Speaker 3
23:59
You
need
to
know
,
because
you're
on
the
edge
of
your
seat
.
What's
next
?
What's
next
,
how
can
we
pray
?
Speaker 2
24:04
And
that's
what
happened
,
and
one
of
the
amazing
things
,
though
through
all
of
that
trauma
that
was
going
on
with
him
,
there
were
many
people
reaching
out
to
Josh
and
I
and
telling
us
how
Nick's
story
that
you
know
it
was
still
going
on
changed
their
lives
.
People
surrendered
their
life
to
Christ
because
of
Nick's
story
.
Speaker 1
24:28
Wow
.
That's
a
beautiful
thing
is
that
you
can't
see
the
impact
that's
happening
at
that
moment
,
because
you
guys
are
in
the
mix
of
everything
happening
.
That's
what
you
guys
.
You
guys
are
in
this
this
,
this
mess
right
now
and
you
guys
are
trying
to
.
You
guys
are
busy
trying
to
keep
things
going
,
but
his
hands
are
at
work
,
yeah
,
and
other
people
are
seeing
it
go
ahead
josh
,
it
was
like
they
.
Speaker 3
24:48
They
wonder
what's
different
.
What
is
different
?
This
sick
,
this
circumstance
that
these
people
are
in
right
now
would
is
meant
to
destroy
people
,
is
meant
to
,
you
know
,
turn
their
worlds
upside
down
and
send
them
down
a
path
that
they're
not
,
that
they
don't
want
to
be
on
,
and
that
never
happened
to
us
because
of
a
foundation
and
a
family
that
we
had
.
You
know
that
we
could
call
on
at
any
given
time
and
it
was
absolutely
amazing
just
having
that
support
.
Speaker 1
25:20
Wow
,
the
support
that
seems
like
like
such
a
key
piece
to
this
.
It's
hard
to
believe
.
I
know
me
and
Mrs
Clearby
talk
about
it
at
times
when
we
know
some
of
our
loved
ones
that
are
going
through
things
that
don't
have
that
relationship
,
and
it's
like
I
can't
even
wrap
my
mind
around
what
it
would
be
like
going
through
that
,
not
having
that
faith
and
having
that
knowing
that
,
even
though
we
can't
make
sense
of
things
,
god's
at
work
here
and
it's
going
to
be
used
for
the
good
,
for
the
good
of
God
,
and
it's
a
it's
a
good
place
to
be
in
such
a
bad
place
that
you're
at
,
you
know
,
going
through
that
season
.
Speaker 3
25:54
The
day
that
we
,
the
day
that
we
had
to
drive
back
down
and
and
the
day
that
he
passed
away
,
it
was
I
,
I
don't
know
how
to
describe
it
other
than
it
was
like
the
heaviness
was
gone
.
Yeah
,
we
didn't
have
to
worry
about
him
anymore
.
You
know
,
we
knew
that
he
was
home
in
the
arms
of
jesus
.
You
know
that
was
we
knew
that
.
Speaker 3
26:19
but
I
mean
,
yeah
,
it
hurt
.
It
hurt
really
hard
,
really
bad
,
and
that
day
we
had
a
blizzard
that
hit
and
we
weren't
able
to
drive
the
two
hours
back
home
.
So
we
were
put
up
in
a
hotel
which
turned
out
to
be
in
a
hotel
for
two
days
because
we
ended
up
getting
like
two
feet
of
snow
.
Speaker 2
26:41
we
ended
up
getting
like
two
feet
of
snow
,
and
it
was
actually
a
blessing
in
disguise
,
because
we
were
stranded
there
in
this
small
hotel
and
we
turned
our
phones
off
and
we
just
stayed
there
,
just
us
and
just
we
.
Speaker 3
26:53
Didn't
want
to
talk
to
anybody
and
we
just
needed
to
soak
everything
in
that
happened
yeah
,
before
,
before
all
the
planning
or
anything
took
off
,
it
was
just
like
we
had
two
complete
days
of
nothing
,
just
each
other
yeah
and
and
time
to
breathe
?
I
guess
would
be
,
and
it
was
I
,
it
would
it
.
It's
strange
would
be
a
good
way
to
describe
it
,
because
we've
been
running
and
on
high
levels
of
everything
for
five
years
straight
through
and
then
,
all
of
a
sudden
,
all
the
worry
and
all
the
crazy
and
everything
was
over
.
Speaker 2
27:33
And
it
was
just
quiet
.
Wow
,
wow
,
an
eerie
quiet
.
Speaker 3
27:37
So
we
soaked
in
the
peace
of
a
few
days
before
everything
planning
of
the
funeral
and
the
family
and
letting
everybody
know
what's
going
on
.
So
we
had
that
downtime
and
that
was
amazing
.
So
that
was
kind
of
like
the
beginning
of
God
knew
what
we
needed
.
Speaker 1
27:57
He
gave
us
a
couple
of
days
of
peace
,
amen
,
what
we
needed
.
He
gave
us
a
couple
of
days
,
a
piece
that's
amen
,
amen
.
You
know
,
as
you
guys
continue
to
move
forward
,
what
are
like
,
what
are
some
of
the
things
you
guys
do
now
and
today
,
and
moving
forward
to
keep
nick's
memory
alive
?
Speaker 2
28:11
um
.
Every
year
we
go
to
the
ann
carlson
center
,
which
is
where
he
lived
,
and
we
take
school
supplies
to
the
kids
there
.
Um
geez
,
what
else
do
we
do
?
Speaker 3
28:23
we
have
ice
cream
on
his
birthday
yes
,
that
was
the
thing
that
we
started
when
he
when
he
was
in
uh
,
when
he
was
in
the
hospital
,
we
started
doing
that
with
him
,
because
that
was
one
of
the
only
things
that
he
could
eat
was
ice
cream
so
we'd
,
we'd
take
him
out
for
ice
cream
.
So
we
every
.
Speaker 2
28:40
Vanilla
ice
cream
cone
.
Speaker 3
28:42
Yep
,
every
birthday
of
his
we
go
and
you
know
we
shared
that
with
everybody
and
says
,
okay
,
have
ice
cream
in
honor
of
Nick
today
.
Speaker 2
28:52
Oh
,
that's
awesome
.
So
our
friends
would
meet
us
and
we'd
go
to
Dairy
Queen
and
have
ice
cream
.
Speaker 3
28:56
We
have
all
the
friends
that
have
kids
.
The
same
age
as
Nick
would
have
been
no
,
he'd
have
been
,
what
?
16?
.
Speaker 2
29:06
He
would
have
been
16
in
April
.
Speaker 3
29:08
Yeah
,
16
in
April
and
we
have
lots
of
friends
with
16-year-old
kids
and
it's
like
we
see
them
and
the
things
that
they're
into
and
the
stuff
.
So
that's
another
thing
.
It's
like
how
can
we
cheer
on
your
kids
,
you
know
?
What
would
?
What
are
they
into
?
What
would
our
?
It
makes
you
think
what
would
he
be
into
at
16
?
You
know
.
Speaker 1
29:29
Yeah
,
yeah
,
wow
,
wow
.
Speaker 2
29:32
He
loved
music
so
I
know
he
would
be
into
music
.
Speaker 1
29:36
Yeah
,
he
would
have
loved
,
wouldn't
you
he
?
Speaker 2
29:39
had
an
obsession
with
drums
.
Speaker 3
29:42
When
the
word
of
Nick
started
spreading
all
over
the
place
.
I
mean
everywhere
.
I've
got
friends
who
are
musicians
Nick's Story Spread & People Responded
Speaker 3
29:52
that
play
in
Nashville
,
you
know
and
all
of
a
sudden
these
drumsticks
started
coming
in
.
Speaker 2
29:59
Autographed
drumsticks
from
all
these
bands
.
Autographed
drumsticks
from
bands
and
things
Lita
,
ford
and
all
yeah
.
Speaker 1
30:05
That's
awesome
,
yeah
,
baseball
players
meeting
him
.
Speaker 2
30:10
There
was
a
baseball
player
that
came
to
see
him
in
the
hospital
.
Speaker 1
30:13
I
want
to
encourage
people
.
It's
beautiful
to
see
people
come
together
when
something
like
this
is
happening
right
,
because
they
know
they
need
support
,
and
I
want
to
encourage
as
we
get
ready
we're
going
to
get
ready
to
wrap
up
and
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
all
for
coming
on
.
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
tougher
topic
to
listen
to
,
but
I
think
it's
so
important
because
we
all
go
through
different
things
.
It
might
not
be
exactly
this
,
but
we
all
go
through
hardships
and
the
people
that
we
meet
,
even
in
here
in
Horizons
,
they're
going
through
things
that
we
don't
know
and
it's
so
important
for
us
to
remember
that
and
just
like
how
people
came
together
to
show
you
guys
love
and
that
you're
supported
,
and
they
knew
what
was
going
on
.
Speaker 1
30:50
I
want
to
encourage
everybody
here
when
you
come
in
and
you
meet
people
here
in
Horizons
,
treat
them
that
way
,
without
you
knowing
what's
going
on
,
but
treat
them
that
way
now
,
even
if
they're
not
treating
you
great
.
Show
them
that
you
value
them
and
you
love
them
,
that
you
care
for
them
.
You
just
don't
know
what
people
are
going
through
and
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
both
for
coming
out
here
.
Again
,
I'm
truly
grateful
that
you
guys
both
came
here
and
chose
that
you
guys
wanted
to
come
to
Killer
Bee
Studios
to
share
Nick's
story
here
,
because
that
is
so
,
so
honoring
and
humbling
for
the
studios
here
is
to
be
able
to
let
Nick's
stories
be
heard
here
.
Speaker 1
31:27
So
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
that
,
and
I
also
I
would
love
to
ask
you
guys
,
as
we
get
ready
to
wrap
up
and
afterwards
,
you
guys
will
take
the
table
off
the
stage
here
and
we
can
all
come
up
here
and
get
a
selfie
together
.
We'd
love
to
get
a
selfie
of
everybody
and
Dina
will
play
the
outro
music
and
you
guys
can
come
on
up
.
But
before
we
close
,
I
would
like
to
ask
you
just
just
this
.
I'd
like
to
ask
you
what
?
What
motivated
you
,
motivated
you
both
to
come
and
open
your
hearts
here
to
come
share
next
story
with
us
?
Speaker 2
31:57
Because
there
could
be
somebody
here
What Motivated You To Come Share Nick's Story in the Metaverse?
Speaker 2
31:59
that
has
been
in
a
similar
situation
and
if
that
has
been
any
of
you
,
feel
free
to
talk
to
us
.
We
would
love
to
talk
to
you
about
it
.
Speaker 3
32:09
We're
11
years
past
.
The
crazy
I
guess
would
be
and
this
might
be
a
fresh
thing
for
a
lot
of
people
.
Maybe
the
hurt's
really
fresh
,
Maybe
you
lost
somebody
in
the
last
year
or
so
,
you
know
like
,
how
do
you
get
through
it
?
What
do
I
do
,
you
know
?
I
mean
,
there's
no
right
way
to
do
any
of
this
.
Yeah
,
you
know
,
that's
what
I
would
tell
you
first
of
all
is
that
there
is
no
right
way
to
do
it
.
Speaker 2
32:43
Yeah
,
there's
no
right
way
to
grieve
.
Speaker 3
32:45
Everybody
grieves
in
their
own
way
,
but
you
have
to
.
You
got
to
go
through
it
.
You
know
,
is
it
easy
?
No
,
but
you
got
to
.
Speaker 1
32:53
That's
good
.
Well
,
you
know
,
if
anybody's
going
through
anything
,
let
us
know
,
like
talk
to
us
,
because
there's
people
like
Metacoach
and
stuff
like
that
,
people
that
we
can
connect
you
with
.
We
have
pastors
here
that
we
can
connect
with
from
the
churches
here
in
Horizons
and
if
you're
listening
to
the
podcast
,
you
can
click
the
link
in
the
podcast
notes
and
contact
us
and
we'll
help
put
you
in
connection
with
somebody
that
can
be
there
.
We
want
to
be
there
to
help
you
in
any
way
we
can
,
even
if
it's
making
a
connection
to
the
right
person
.
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