Rising Costs And Quiet Crisis
SPEAKER_01
0:00
Lately
I
find
myself
paying
attention
to
things
that
have
changed,
but
not
really.
Grocery
and
gas
prices
increases,
and
the
mom
calculating
what
goes
back
on
the
shelf
at
checkout.
The
amount
of
for
rent
signs
and
the
average
cost
of
rentals
and
the
term
affordable
housing
becoming
a
phrase
instead
of
a
reality.
Housing
used
to
feel
like
a
stepping
stone,
but
for
many
people
it
can
feel
like
quicksand
when
homes
become
commodities
before
they
remain
communities.
For
the
family
one
car
repair
away
from
disaster,
for
the
senior
deciding
whether
medication
or
food
wins
this
month,
for
the
working
family
doing
everything
right
and
somehow
still
falling
behind.
For
stories
people
tell
quietly
because
they're
embarrassed,
because
something
feels
different.
And
I
worry.
I
worry
about
landlords
who
see
spreadsheets
but
never
see
people.
I
worry
about
food
insecurity
for
those
without
transportation.
And
because
financial
stress
doesn't
stay
inside
your
wallet,
I
worry
about
mental
health.
It
follows
you
into
your
marriage,
your
parenting,
your
sleep,
your
self-worth.
And
perhaps
what
concerns
me
most
is
how
easy
it
is
to
believe
these
issues
belong
to
someone
else.
Because
I
have
also
learned
over
the
years
crisis
doesn't
always
arrive
with
sirens.
Sometimes
it
arrives
as
a
rent
increase,
a
flat
tire,
a
diagnosis,
a
lost
job,
a
divorce,
a
thousand
dollar
emergency
that
quietly
changes
everything.
In
January
of
2023,
the
very
first
guest
I
ever
had
on
this
podcast
was
Colleen
Rodriguez.
We
asked,
you
might
be
woke,
but
are
you
awake?
Because
knowing
statistics
and
reposting
headlines
is
different
from
knowing
where
your
nearest
food
pantry
is
or
where
help
lives.
When
we
came
back
together
in
2024
and
asked,
how
can
we
provide
the
base
of
the
pyramid
with
dignity?
We
talked
about
Maslow's
hierarchy
and
the
uncomfortable
reality
that
food,
shelter,
and
security
are
still
out
of
reach
for
too
many
people.
So
here
we
are
again,
different
year,
different
world,
same
questions,
maybe
bigger
questions.
And
that's
what
we're
going
to
tackle
today.
Hi,
I'm
Suze,
bringing
you
a
dose
of
culture,
values,
and
global
citizenship
with
just
enough
chutzba
to
ask
the
questions
others
may
avoid.
Today's
Meet Colleen Rodriguez And JFCS
SPEAKER_01
2:07
guest
isn't
just
returning
to
Shmooz
with
Suze.
In
many
ways,
she's
returning
to
where
this
podcast
began.
Colleen
Rodriguez
serves
as
CEO
of
the
LJD
Jewish
Family
and
Community
Services,
an
organization
that
has
strengthened
Northeast
Florida
since
1917
through
mental
health
services,
food
assistance,
child
welfare,
foster
care
and
adoption
support,
counseling,
homelessness
prevention,
Jewish
community
services,
and
programs
designed
to
help
people
help
themselves.
Under
Colleen's
leadership,
the
organization
has
grown
significantly
in
both
scale
and
reach.
But
titles
only
tell
part
of
the
story
because
Colleen
is
one
of
those
people
who
sits
in
the
uncomfortable
spaces
most
of
us
avoid.
The
places
where
people
are
scared,
overwhelmed,
grieving,
hungry,
uncertain,
or
trying
to
hold
life
together
with
duct
tape
and
hope.
She
has
spent
decades
asking,
not
whose
problem
is
this,
but
instead,
how
do
we
help?
Colleen,
welcome
back.
Thanks
for
having
me.
Thanks
for
being
here.
Since
our
first
conversation,
JFCS
has
expanded
support
around
eviction,
diversion,
and
housing
stabilization
efforts
for
working
families
facing
housing
crisis,
increased
food
assistance
through
the
Max
Block
Food
Pantry,
and
tailored
support
for
people
experiencing
different
forms
of
housing
instability.
That's
correct.
Mental
health
services
and
counseling
resources
aimed
at
reducing
stigma
and
increasing
access.
Child
welfare,
family
support
systems,
foster
care,
and
prevention
programs
designed
to
intervene
before
crisis
escalates.
The
need
hasn't
disappeared,
but
the
complexity
seems
to
have
increased.
So
uh
you
were
my
first
guest
ever.
Looking
back
at
those
conversations,
what
concerns
did
you
have
then
that
you
still
have
today?
SPEAKER_00
3:54
It's
interesting.
As
I
was
listening
to
you
talk,
I
feel
like
I
have
the
same
concerns
I
had
back
then.
Now
maybe
they've
changed
area
as
to
the
areas
that
we're
working
in,
but
we're
seeing
the
same
type
of
need,
and
in
some
ways
we're
seeing
bigger
need.
Our
food
pantry
numbers
are
not
going
down,
they're
going
up.
We
had
the
need
to
expand
into
Baker
County.
We
now
have
a
food
pantry
there.
Our
child
welfare
services,
the
number
of
kids
are
going
up,
and
we
expanded
into
Baker,
Bradford,
Union,
and
Alatua.
And
so,
you
know,
we've
added
eviction
diversion,
like
you
mentioned.
So
maybe
we're
the
good
news
is
that
people
are
becoming
aware,
the
funding
is
becoming
available,
not
to
the
extent
that
it
needs
to,
but
we
have
seen
some
growth
in
that
area,
some
awareness
in
that
area.
And
we're
able
to
tailor
some
programs
like
our
eviction
diversion
around
a
specific
group
of
people.
But
I
don't
think
the
need,
I
don't
not
say
I
don't
think.
I
know
the
need
is
not
going
down.
It's
going
up.
The Invisible Middle And ALICE Families
SPEAKER_01
4:58
So
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
invisible
middle.
We
think
about
food
insecurity
and
like
you
said,
the
eviction-diversion
program.
A
lot
of
people
consider
homelessness
as
people
sleeping
on
sidewalks.
Who
are
really
the
people
that
are
struggling
today?
SPEAKER_00
5:16
It
really
is
the
middle.
So
everyone
has
a
vision
of
what
does
a
person
look
like
who's
going
to
be
evicted
or
is
struggling
with
food
or
struggling
to
buy
groceries
or
prescriptions.
We
all
have
a
vision
of
who
that
person
looks
like.
And
if
you
were
to
come
to
our
food
pantry
or
work
with
our
financial
assistance
case
managers,
they
look
a
lot
like
us.
So
it's
usually,
I
know
there
is
that
small
population
that
chronically
is
dependent,
but
that
is
a
very
small
population.
And
I
probably
said
that
to
you
when
I
first
met
you.
It
is
the
most
the
majority
of
the
people
who
are
coming
for
need,
it's
that
one
off.
We
had
a
dual
income,
but
unfortunately
one
of
our
children
got
sick
and
I
had
to
stop
working,
and
this
bill
came
and
we
weren't
ready
for
it.
My
car,
I
need
my
car
to
get
to
work.
If
I
can
get
my
car
fixed,
I
can
get
to
work,
I'll
never
need
services
again.
It's
that
one
off.
My
elderly
mom
had
to
move
into
the
home,
and
that
is
we've
had
extra
expenses
because
of
her.
It's
those
types
of
things
that
we
are
hearing.
It
is
not
really
the,
oh,
I
just
don't
want
to
work,
I
don't
want
to
pay
my
bills.
That's
that's
a
very
small
percentage.
SPEAKER_01
6:21
I
remember
three
decades
ago
now
when
I
used
to
work
in
homeless
services
in
New
York
City,
there
was
this
m
idea
that
it
would
be
we
don't
want
to
give
money
because
they'll
use
it
on
drugs.
Right.
But
now
we're
seeing
that
the
people
coming
in
for
assistance
are
what's
coined
as
ALIS,
asset
limited,
income-constrained
employed.
They're
families
with
jobs,
education,
and
a
history
of
stability
that
suddenly
need
assistance.
So
how
has
the
definition
of
vulnerability
changed?
Seniors And Families Facing Homelessness
SPEAKER_00
6:51
Well,
the
two
fastest
growing
homeless
populations
that
we're
seeing
are
parents
with
young
children
and
seniors.
So
let's
go
to
the
seniors,
let's
look
at
our
seniors.
They're
on
fixed
income,
many
of
them
worked
their
entire
life,
they
had
a
plan
or
retirement
plan,
they're
pretend
potentially
still
living
in
the
home,
probably
their
only
asset,
and
then
everything
has
gone
up.
And
when
you're
on
a
fixed
income,
the
income
isn't
changing,
but
the
expenses
are.
We're
seeing
that
at
the
gas
pump,
we're
seeing
that
at
the
grocery
store.
And
so
we
are
seeing
them
move
to
and
they're
homeless
can
be
lots
of
different.
Yes,
there's
those
sleeping
on
the
streets,
then
there's
those
that
we
call
living
on
couches,
like
couch
surfing.
They're
going
from
family
member
to
family
member.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
still
living
in
hotels,
so
they're
going
week
to
week.
We
talked
about
this
three
years
ago.
We
did.
Parents
are
are
smart,
they'll
they'll
find
a
hotel
in
a
good
school
district,
and
so
their
kids
are
going
to
school.
That's
where
they're
getting
fed.
That's
why
we
expect
to
see
spikes
in
our
food
pantry
around
this
holiday
breaks
and
summer.
Yeah.
Because
kids
eat
at
school.
There
are
some
the
food
programs,
but
it's
not
enough.
Um
it's
not
it's
not
going
to
feed
the
rest
of
the
family.
And
so
we're
st
seeing
all
those
same
things
happening
now,
um,
just
on
a
larger
scale.
SPEAKER_01
8:03
So
it
surprised
people,
I
think,
when
we
described
who
shows
up
at
the
food
pantries.
Exactly
what
you
were
sharing
is
that
this
misconception
of
the
people
that
are
standing
on
street
corners
with
the
signs,
they're
not
showing
up
at
the
pantries
as
often
as
families
with
young
children
who
have
this
instability
in
whether
it's
the
housing
and
if
you're
in
a
hotel,
do
you
have
maybe
a
mini
fridge
and
you
don't
necessarily
have
cooking
available
to
you?
So
going
back
to
the
food
pantries,
what
has
changed
in
the
types
of
needs,
the
types
of
what
you're
providing,
what
can
people
donate,
and
what
are
the
reasons
for
the
distinctions
between
different
donation
facts?
Food Pantry Realities And Smart Donations
SPEAKER_00
8:42
So
we
really
have
three
different
types
of
people
who
will
come,
not
three
types,
but
three
different
types
of
need
when
they
come
to
our
food
pantry.
The
first
is
I'm
truly
homeless,
I'm
living
in
the
woods,
I
need
pop-top
cans,
I
need
something
I
can
cook
over
the
fire,
I
need,
you
know,
bread
and
peanut
butter
and
and
things
like
that
that
they
can
use
and
and
and
eat
kind
of
on
the
run
or
walking
around.
With
the
next
group
we
have
is
are
those
that
are
in
the
hotels
or
that
they're
couch
serving,
and
they
may
have
the
ability
to
get
to
a
microwave,
but
they're
not
really
gonna
have
a
full
kitchen.
So
it's
what
can
we
make
quickly
in
a
microwave
type
setting?
And
then
the
third
population
are
those
that
are
living
in
their
homes,
they
have
access
to
a
kitchen,
and
they're
just
needing
some
extra
assistance.
So
any
type
of
donation
works.
It
can
be
the
pop-top
cans.
I
know
they're
more
expensive.
We
really
look
for
protein.
Peanut
butter
and
jelly
is
huge.
Think
about
meals,
pastas,
rice,
things
that
a
a
person
could
make
for
a
family.
Yeah.
And
then
I
would
tell
you
don't
forget
the
pets.
Many
of
them
have
pets,
they
have
animals,
they're
part
of
the
family,
just
like
we
think
of
our
animals.
And
so
donations
for
for
cats
and
dogs
as
well
is
important.
SPEAKER_01
9:54
I'm
so
glad
you
shared
that
with
me
because
I
would
not
have
thought
of
that
until
you
said
it.
I
would
think
that
that
would
go
to
a
pet
shelter
specifically,
but
you're
correct.
There
that
same,
and
you
know,
my
son
said
this
to
me
the
other
day.
We
were
passing
by,
and
he
said,
That
person
over
there,
why
would
they
have
a
dog?
And
he
answered
his
own
question.
He
said,
Because
I
would
also
be
lonely
and
I
would
want
someone
that
I
could
have
to
hug
and
who
would
love
me
unconditionally.
And
it
was
an
interesting
dynamic
because
when
you
think
of
those
families
in
transition,
you
wouldn't
necessarily
consider
it
the
pet,
but
that
pet
might
be
the
longest
relationship
that
a
child
has
had.
SPEAKER_00
10:32
There's
a
lot
of
judgment
when
people
see
people
with
pets,
it's
security
on
the
streets
when
you're
sleeping.
It
may
be
the
only
relationship
they
have.
And
unfortunately,
and
I
understand
why,
there
aren't
any
shelters
that
will
take
pets.
And
so
when
someone
who
is
homeless
is
offered
a
bed,
they
often
won't
take
it
if
they're
if
they're
not
going
to
have
their
pet.
SPEAKER_01
10:52
I
appreciate
you
breaking
that
stigma
because
it
is
a
judgmental
environment.
Affordable Housing And Eviction Diversion
SPEAKER_01
10:57
Here's
what's
always
surprising
to
me.
I
keep
reading
week
after
week,
Jacksonville
is
one
of
the
fastest
growing
cities
in
the
country.
It's
exciting.
It
sounds
like
there's
a
whole
lot
of
development
that's
happening
over
here,
and
we
talk
about
housing
instability
and
the
cost
of
housing.
Obviously,
we
know
that
renting
versus
buying
is,
you
know,
not
necessarily
what
people
should
strive
towards.
But
when
you
look
at
the
landscape,
because
that's
what
kept
you
up
at
night
when
we
first
met,
affordable
housing.
When
you
read
in
the
newspaper
or
you
see
all
these
plugs
for
affordable
housing,
does
that
make
you
feel
more
comfortable?
Do
you
feel
like,
oh,
we're
solving
that
need?
SPEAKER_00
11:38
I
don't
know
if
we'll
ever
solve
that
need
because
the
need
is
greater
than
the
funding
and
the
opportunities.
But
I
I
I'm
excited,
I'm
I'm
encouraged,
excited
might
not
be
the
right
word,
but
I
am
encouraged
that
we're
paying
attention
to
it.
We're
at
least
talking
about
it,
we're
acknowledging
it.
The
challenges
are
a
little
different
now,
and
that
so
many
of
our
properties
in
Jacksonville,
and
probably
across
the
country,
is
probably
not
unique
to
our
city,
but
I
can
only
speak
about
our
city.
The
properties
aren't
owned
by
someone
who
lives
in
Jacksonville.
They're
owned
by
a
management
company
or
a
company,
a
landlord
out
of
state
that
maybe
has
never
even
seen
the
property.
And
so
our
program,
like
eviction
diversion
and
our
financial
assistance
programs,
very
often
when
we're
trying
to
work
with
a
landlord,
we
don't
even
know
where
they
are,
who
they
are.
And
so,
do
they
have
an
incentive
and
a
buy-in
to
even
want
to
work
with
us?
When
our
eviction
diversion
program
first
started,
there
was
a
lot
of
buy-in.
So
how
it
works
really
quickly
is
if
you
go
into
the
portal
to
file
an
eviction,
and
there's
thousands
that
are
done
every
month
in
Jacksonville,
a
stop
sign
kind
of
pops
up
and
says,
if
you
want
to
work
with
this
tenant,
if
this
has
been
a
good
standing
tenant,
then
they'll
shift
you
over
to
Jewish
Family.
And
the
same
for
the
tenant.
And
then
we're
able
to
intervene
and
hopefully
make
that
tenant
whole.
And
it
is
those
one-offs.
They're
working,
they
can
pay
next
month,
they
got
behind
because
of
an
emergency,
they've
been
a
good
tenant,
and
we
can
come
in,
make
everyone
whole,
and
move
forward.
And
probably
never,
as
we've
as
we've
looked
at
the
numbers,
over
80%
of
them
six
months
down
the
road
are
in
the
same
house,
in
good
standing,
everything
is
stable.
And
that
means
the
children
are
stable
in
their
schools
and
the
adults
are
stable
in
their
home.
And
so
it's
successful,
it's
working.
We're
not
saying
that's
not
still
working,
but
more
and
more
as
we
reach
out
to
the
landlords
and
we
see
these
evictions
being
filed,
they're
not
as
interested.
SPEAKER_01
13:26
And
when
we
research,
they're
not
even
here.
Tell
me
a
little
bit
about
the
difference.
And
I
told
you
I
wouldn't
ask
you
statistics
or
numbers,
but
I'm
gonna
ask
a
little
bit
about
what
it
costs
to
re-home
a
person
versus
putting
a
stop
to
a
potential
eviction.
Um,
when
we
think
about
what
it
costs
to
get
into
a
home,
you
have
to
pay
security,
first
month,
last
month's
rent,
and
every
month's
rent
and
pet
deposit,
and
now
they're
adding
even
more
insurances.
And
from
the
landlord
side,
yes,
I
can
understand
that
taxes
have
gone
up,
insurance
have
gone
up.
But
for
the
resident,
what's
the
difference
between
keeping
them
in
a
home
versus
having
to
re-home?
Right.
SPEAKER_00
14:10
Well,
it
used
to
be
what,
three
times
the
amount
of
money
to
get
someone
off
the
streets.
I
would
argue
now
that
number
is
only
going
up.
And
then
you
also
not
think
of
don't
only
think
about
the
money,
think
about
every
time
a
child
changes
school,
the
statistics
show
that
they
fall
six
months
behind.
Wow.
So
I
mean
that's
gonna
impact
school
graduation
rates,
that
impacts
children's
involvement
and
engagement
as
parents
are
moving
and
having
to
get
different
jobs.
We're
talking
about
transportation
issues.
It's
a
slippery
slope.
So
it's
it's
not
only
the
financial
expense,
it's
the
emotional
expense,
it's
the
educational
expense.
SPEAKER_01
14:45
It's
it's
I
think
people
only
think
about
the
packing
up
of
boxes
or
the
sign
on
the
door,
but
that's
just
scratching
the
surface
of
what
the
long-term
concern
actually
leads
to,
which
is
my
next
question
in
terms
of
mental
health.
Financial Stress And Kids Mental Health
SPEAKER_01
14:59
Um
and
I
touched
on
this
in
my
monologue
about
how
why,
how
and
why
I
worry
about
this
is
that
growing
up
to
two
immigrant
parents
who
were
scraping
pennies
together,
right?
Um
I
viscerally
felt
when
my
parents
were
going
through
a
financial
hard
time,
even
if
they
tried
to
hide
it
from
me.
Right.
I
remember
standing
outside
the
door
of
the
kitchen
and
eavesdropping,
and
I
remember
the
one
year
that
I
came
in
and
I
said,
I
don't
really
want
to
go
to
camp.
And
my
parents
said,
But
you
have
to
go
to
camp.
And
I
said,
No,
I
don't
really
want
to
go
to
camp.
They
didn't
understand
that
I
had
heard
them
talk
about
financial
struggles,
and
so
I
was
gonna
give
up
something
so
they
didn't
have
to
worry
about
that
payment.
I
did
not
realize
that
I
was
going
to
camp
so
that
I
could
be
somewhere
supervised
so
they
could
work
two
jobs.
Right.
Tell
me
a
little
bit
about
what
that's
translating
to
in
mental
health
services.
SPEAKER_00
15:54
So
if
you're
in
a
food
pantry
as
a
child,
you
know
it.
If
you're
getting
the
second
cloth
secondary
clothes,
or
if
you're
having
to
go
to
a
clothing
closet
and
try
things
on
in
a
in
a
little
room,
you
know
it.
Yeah.
If
your
mom
is
making
the
same
meal
every
day,
or
you're
having
to
skip
a
meal,
or
you're
sick,
but
you're
still
having
to
go
to
school
and
you're
pumped
up
on
Tylenol,
and
your
mom
says
you
gotta
fake
it
and
get
to
school
so
that
you
can
have
your
breakfast
and
lunch
there,
you
know
it.
So
that
causes,
even
if
they're
little,
that
there's
some
anxiety
in
that.
There's
some
fear
in
that.
The
parents'
anxiety,
yes,
we
all
try
to
hide
our
anxiety
and
we
go
in
our
room,
but
kids
feel
that.
There's
a
tension
in
the
air,
there's
a
tension
in
the
room.
Kids
can
be
mean
and
cruel,
and
they
know
if
you've
worn
the
same
outfit
a
couple
days
a
week,
they
know
if
it's
not
clean.
They
know,
you
know,
a
lot
of
schools
have
school
uniforms,
and
when
you
grow,
I
don't
know
if
I
all
kids
are
just
they
sprout
up.
Yeah.
And
so
the
clothes
that
you
start
the
year
with
are
not
the
clothes
you
finish.
But
if
it's
the
only
set
that
your
parents
can
buy,
it
is
the
only
pair
that
you're
wearing.
And
so
they
may
not
fit
anymore,
and
the
shoes
may
not
fit
anymore.
We
find
out
a
lot
in
our
school-based
programs
that
children
don't
come
to
school
because
of
that.
They're
embarrassed.
Their
parents
would
only
do
laundry
once
a
month.
And
so
their
clothes
start
to
smell
and
have
stains.
If
their
shoes
don't
fit
anymore,
they
cut
the
toes
out
of
them.
So
that's
happening,
that's
real.
And
so,
would
you
go
to
school?
I
I
wouldn't
go
to
school.
And
so
there's
a
feeling
of
self-worth,
right?
Because
we
we've
labeled
the
right
clothes
and
the
right
car
and
the
right
home,
right?
We
all
have
that
judgment
of
where
you
live
and
what
you
look
like
and
and
what
you
have
on.
That
defines
you
in
our
society
in
a
lot
of
ways.
And
so
self-worth
is
wrapped
up
in
that.
So
we
see
a
lot
of
depression
and
anxiety
and
worry
about
their
families
because
they
hear
their
parents
and
they
see
distress,
and
that
impacts
health
as
well.
SPEAKER_01
17:46
I
am
starting
to
tear
up
a
little
bit
because
I'm
having
flashbacks,
but
also
you're
deeply
impacting
the
way
I
think
about
that
base
of
the
pyramid,
right?
We
we
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
people
who
are
providing
the
food
and
the
housing
and
the
mental
health
services,
but
that
second
layer
of
how
we
can
prevent
the
rate
of
recidivism,
what
are
the
chances
that
a
child
who
has
never
had
stability
is
going
to
feel
like
they're
independently
capable
of
being
stable?
Are
we
now
finding
that
kids
are
carrying
stress
differently
than
maybe
five
years
ago?
SPEAKER_00
18:23
I
don't
know
if
they're
carrying
it
different,
or
is
it
just
we're
more
aware?
We're
paying
attention.
The
schools
are
really
paying
attention,
religious
organizations
are
really
paying
attention.
I
think
we
have
done
a
good
job
about
talking
about
mental
health
and
saying
it's
everywhere.
We
all
experience
it.
We
need
to
pay
attention
to
each
other,
we
need
to
pay
attention
to
each
to
our
children
and
intervene.
I
think
we
are
better
at
that,
but
getting
to
the
root
cause
of
it
and
getting
children
to
admit
that,
that's
those
are
embarrassing
things
to
say.
That
I've
had
rice
the
last
four
nights,
that
I'm
wearing
the
same
clothes,
that
I
can't
go
on
the
field
trips.
You
know,
my
when
my
son
was
in
school
and
doing
field
trips,
you
would
always
see
the
same
few
kids
not
going.
And
why
was
that?
So
that's
something
some
the
community
can
do.
I
used
to
always
pay
an
additional
field
trip
fee
at
my
child
school.
That
is
such
a
great
point.
Pack
an
extra
lunch
for
the
field
trip.
Because
sometimes
the
kids
won't
go
on
the
field
trip
because
you
have
to
bring
a
packed
lunch,
usually.
And
the
school
they
can't
get
their
free
their
free
food.
So
think
outside
the
box
of
how
you
would
subtly
help
someone.
And
I
always
told
the
teachers,
I
don't
even
need
to
know
who
it
is.
Don't
tell
me
who
it
is.
The
field
trip
fee
is
15,
here's
30.
SPEAKER_01
19:39
And
that
was
my
next
question.
If
everyone
listening
could
do
one
practical
thing
when
you're
listening
to
this
conversation,
I
I
want
to
focus
more
on
the
children.
Can
you
give
me
some
more
examples?
And
thank
you
for
alerting
me
to
this
because
I
always
thought,
you
know,
that
there's
this
little
caveat
that
comes
with
every
school
field
trip
form
at
my
kids'
school.
If
you
can't
afford
it,
please
let
us
know.
We
will
be
able
to.
But
I
never
thought,
how
do
they
get
that
funding?
Um,
it's
not
budgeted
into
the
school
district.
Right.
So
it's
parents
like
you
who
are
thinking
outside
the
box.
SPEAKER_00
20:11
Do
you
really
want
to
check
that
box?
I
don't
want
to
check
that
box
on
the
field
trip
form.
I
can't
afford
this.
I
would
just
say
my
child's
sick.
SPEAKER_01
20:19
I
didn't
think
about
that.
But
if
you
had
enough
parents
who
were
reaching
out
and
you
could
say,
we
were
happy
to
cover
everything,
we
have
it
all
covered
in-house,
I
mean,
maybe
it
would
be
an
easier
scholarship
opportunity
for
people.
You're
you're
touching
on
something
that's
so
deep,
um,
the
shame
and
the
fear
that
people
feel
and
the
trickle-down
effect
of
that.
If
a
parent
is
feeling
this
and
they're
emulating
that
character
and
quality,
how
do
you
ask
for
help
if
you
live
with
people
who
are
too
proud
to
ask
for
help?
So,
how
do
they,
how
do
you
find
those
children
when
their
parents
are
not
alerting
you
to
it?
Wraparound Services That Remove Shame
SPEAKER_00
20:59
So,
what
usually
happens
when
people
come
to
Jewish
Family
is
that
they
come
for
something
minimal.
They
they
come
in,
they
maybe
they
want
to
come
for
counseling,
they
want
to,
they
want
to
come
for
you
know
something
small
that
they
feel
is
is
safe.
And
then
when
we
get
in
there,
and
the
reason
we're
designed
the
way
we
are,
is
that
we
can
literally
wrap
services
around.
So
a
lot
of
times
someone
may
come
in
and
say,
I'm
having
anxiety,
I
just
want
to
talk
to
the
therapist
about
this,
and
then
the
therapist
finds
out
they
haven't
had
power
for
a
week
or
they
don't
have
food
or
their
children
need
clothes,
and
we're
able
to
walk
down
the
hallway,
let's
get
the
power
turned
back
on,
you
can
leave
with
some
food,
let's
go
to
over
to
the
clothing
closet,
let's
get
some
clothes.
Um
and
so
it's
very
often
that
we
find
them,
they
do
reach
out,
but
they
reach
out
in
a
way
that
they
think
is
acceptable
and
that
there
isn't
going
to
be
judgment.
And
then
as
we
peel
back
that
onion,
we
get
down
to
the
root
cause.
SPEAKER_01
21:49
I
love
the
way
you
described
it
because
I
remember
sitting
in
in
your
office
spaces
and
learning
about
the
concept
of
wrap
around
services,
just
as
you
described.
After
decades
of
doing
this
work,
what
still
breaks
your
heart?
SPEAKER_00
22:05
The
fact
that
we
still
have
to
have
this
conversation.
The
fact
that
I
didn't
come
here
and
say,
oh
my
gosh,
Susie,
things
are
great,
numbers
are
down,
need
is
down,
funders
understand,
money
is
pouring
in.
You
know,
maybe
that's
I'm
a
Pollyanna.
I'm
a
social
worker.
So
I
hope
for
one
day
you're
I'm
gonna
sit
on
this
in
this
chair
and
tell
you
that
that
I'm
just
seeing
great
things.
And
I
am
seeing
great
things.
I
am
seeing
progress.
I
am
seeing
success.
I'm
seeing
reunifications
with
families,
and
I'm
seeing
families
heal.
So
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
that.
I'm
seeing
landlords
jumping
in
and
helping
and
wanting
to
work
with
their
tenants.
So
it's
not
all
negative.
And
I
do
think
we
need
to
be
sure
that
we're
talking
about
those
positive
things
too.
Um,
the
mental
health
conversation,
the
fact
that
we
get
state
mental
health
money
now,
that's
huge.
Yeah.
I
probably
three
years
ago
I
said
we
didn't,
and
now
we
do.
Correct.
Or
we
were
just
getting
it
for
the
first
time.
And
so
there
is
progress
being
made.
And
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
the
news
is
talking
about
that
progress,
but
also
being
very
aware
that
we
need
to
keep
talking
about
the
challenges
and
we
need
people
to
get
involved.
And
it
can
be
as
simple
as
paying
a
field
trip
or
dropping
up
a
couple
dropping
off
a
couple
jars
of
peanut
butter,
or
when
you
go
to
Walmart
and
you
see
the
$5
t-shirts,
buying
a
couple
extra
packs
and
dropping
them
off
at
the
nearest
clothing
closet.
New
clothes
are
nicer
than
used
clothes.
Yeah.
We
would
all
agree
to
that.
And
so
it
can
be
easy,
and
I
understand
that
expenses
are
high
for
everyone,
and
everyone
is
struggling
now.
But
just
the
little
things.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
big.
I
think
people
sit
around
and
go,
I
have
to
do
this
big,
grandiose
thing.
And
it
it's
just
the
little
things
if
everyone
just
did
something.
SPEAKER_01
23:42
So
it's
staying
engaged
without
feeling
overwhelmed
or
becoming
overwhelmed.
Donors Funders And Unrestricted Giving
SPEAKER_01
23:47
How
do
you
continue
to
develop
these
relationships
with
your
donors,
with
your
funders
so
that
they're
not
feeling
exhausted?
You
shared
some
spaces
where
hope
is
obvious
and
the
uh
progress
that
has
been
made
is
apparent,
but
let's
not
forget
we
can't
heal
what
we
don't
feel.
Right.
So
if
we
don't
continue
to
look
for
those
gaps,
right,
for
everything
that
we
fix,
may
expose
a
gap
somewhere.
Tell
me
about
your
funders
and
your
donors.
How
much
do
they
want
to
know?
How
much
do
they
just
give
and
trust?
How
much
is
restricted
versus
how
much
goes
to
your
operating
expenses?
Because
we
know
that
Colleen
is
a
steward
of
our
community
and
wraparound
services
with
a
goal.
We
know
that
if
we
give
money
for
this,
chances
are
she
will
uncover
eight
different
things,
and
we
want
to
know
that
she
can
confidently
solve
those
needs.
SPEAKER_00
24:34
I
am
very
lucky
with
our
donors.
Our
donors
are
very
in
touch
with
the
community.
My
phone
is
usually
ringing
before
I
even
have
to
call
them.
When
SNAP
was
closed
and
the
federal
government
wasn't
paying
the
the
military
or
a
big
military
town,
and
the
the
phone
was
ringing
saying,
What
do
you
need?
How
can
we
help?
And
unrestricted
is
always
the
best.
It's
not
that
we're
not
accountable
for
those
dollars.
I
can
still
tell
you
where
every
dollar
was
spent.
Oh,
absolutely.
But
it
gives
us
the
flexibility
because
the
other
thing
that's
important
for
the
nonprofit
sector,
especially,
is
that
people
don't
come
in
one
size
that
fits
all.
And
so
it's
really
difficult
when
there's
a
lot
of
restraints
around
the
funding,
because
then
I,
example,
you
need
help
with
a
deposit.
Well,
I
don't
get
deposit
money.
So
I'm
gonna
tell
you
to
lapse
your
rent
because
I
can
la
I
can
pay
your
rent,
but
I
can't
pay
your
deposit.
And
then
it
can
free
up
your
money
to
pay
the
deposit
so
that
I
can
pay
your
rent.
Or
I
have
prescription
money,
but
I
don't
have
utility
money.
So
let
your,
you
know,
let
your
prescriptions
lapse.
I'll
then
pay
for
your
prescriptions
and
then
you
see
to
free
up
money
to
pay
your
balance,
right?
So
we
really
need
unrestricted
dollars.
Again,
still
accountable
for
those
dollars,
but
let
the
person
come
to
us
so
we
can
meet
them
where
they
are,
versus
telling
them
where
they
need
to
be.
Yeah.
And
then
and
then
I
can
help
you.
You're
already
stressed,
you're
already
in
crisis,
it's
usually
Friday
at
four
o'clock,
and
then
we're
sitting
there
trying
to
play
this
chess
game
of
what
we
can
move
around
to
be
able
to
help
you.
And
so,
as
donors,
I
would
really
think
about
with
your
dollars,
yes,
you
can
earmark
them.
I
want
to
only
work
with
homelessness
or
I
only
want
to
work
with
mental
health.
But
then
really
give
the
organization
the
freedom.
Because
I
would
challenge
you
if
you're
giving
an
organization
money
and
you
don't
trust
them
enough
to
give
them
a
little
bit
of
freedom
that
I
would
question
if
you
should
be
giving
to
that
organization.
Quite
frankly,
our
money,
if
we're
open
books,
we
can
show
everything.
Um,
we
do
show
everything,
and
we
can
all
not
nonprofits
can
tell
you
where
the
money
is
spent
and
what
their
admin
costs
are.
And
so
I
would
say
give
and
then
give
them
the
freedom
to
do
it.
Still
ask
for
accountability
and
reporting
if
that
makes
you
feel
comfortable.
But
let
people
and
the
nonprofit
sector
meet
people
where
they
are
versus
telling
people
what
their
need
is.
Raising Givers With Time Talent Testimony
SPEAKER_01
26:47
I
love
that.
I
discovered
several
years
ago,
and
that's
how
I
first
got
involved
with
JFCS.
It
was
time
and
talent
first.
I
volunteered,
and
then
I
opened
my
home
and
hosted
other
people
to
find
out
more
information
about
volunteering,
and
then
I
engaged
some
students
that
I
was
working
with
to
volunteer.
And
then
I
became
one
of
those
like,
just
charge
my
card
every
month.
I
don't
want
to
know,
um,
and
please
never
mention
it
to
my
husband.
And
when
you
increase
that
charge,
well,
he
doesn't
listen
to
my
show
and
I
don't
watch
his
news.
Okay,
there
you
go.
That's
our
that's
our
deal.
But
that
was
the
discussion
that
I
had
with
your
development
director,
Susie.
Um,
we
have
this
concept
in
Judaism,
Olimbi
mitzvah
in
Moridim.
You
only
increase
a
mitzvah,
you
never
take
away
from
it.
And
so
I
said,
Um,
I'm
gonna
buy
two
tickets
to
your
event
every
year
anyway.
And
I've
justified
to
myself
that
if
I
make
the
annual
campaign
pledge,
then
that
includes
my
two
tickets.
Just
keep
charging
my
card,
don't
tell
me.
And
it
was
uh
mind-blowing
when
I
looked
back
over
the
course
of
this
almost
a
decade
that
I've
been
volunteering
and
sponsoring
and
working
and
donating
to
JFCS.
How
many
people
that
I
honor,
respect,
and
admire
were
one
of
your
original
funders,
donors,
and
they
continue
to
grow
with
the
agency's
needs.
They
do.
SPEAKER_00
28:05
Where
they're
very
loyal.
They
see
our
mission,
they
see
that
we're
meeting
the
mission,
they
see
that
the
need
is
growing,
we
keep
them
educated,
they
stay
involved.
I
get
your
newsletters.
Yeah.
Another
idea
I
would
have
all
of
our
children
have
to
have
community
service
for
various
reasons
for
school
and
for
scholarships.
Go
with
them.
We're
quick
to
drop
them
off,
and
they
have
these
great
experiences
at
Salzbacker
or
different
places,
the
women's
center,
all
the
different
places,
and
go
with
them.
SPEAKER_01
28:30
That's
such
a
great
suggestion.
In
my
case,
it's
the
opposite.
My
kids
have
to
come
with
me.
And
so
that's
how
they've
learned
the
power
of
service
over
self.
That
you
can't
know
what
the
community's
needs
are
if
you're
not
in
the
community.
SPEAKER_00
28:44
Right.
I
remember
my
son
coming
home
and
saying,
The
kids
look
just
like
me
in
the
food
pantry.
Because
he
works
on
my
food
pantry
at
the
agency.
And
mom,
they're
my
age.
And
I
was
like,
Yes,
honey.
And
where
do
you
go
when
you
need
food?
You
walk
to
the
pantry,
you
open
it
up,
and
it's
full,
and
if
it's
not
full,
you're
angry,
and
I'm
going
to
the
store.
SPEAKER_01
29:02
We
don't
think
about
it.
That's
exactly
right.
My
kids
have
made
those
connections
organically,
and
it
really
started
with
the
gift
giving.
So
I'm
gonna
talk
about
this
briefly
because
it's
now
in
how
many
years.
We
just
over
a
decade.
Yeah.
The
uh
holiday
gift
giving
every
year
since
I
moved
here
11
years
ago.
I
adopted
a
child
that
is
the
same
age
and
gender
as
each
of
my
children.
I
do
that
as
well.
And
the
reason
I
started
doing
it
and
when
I
moved
here,
Brooklyn
was
two
weeks
old.
So
uh
it's
been
happening
for
11
years
now.
Um
at
the
beginning
they
didn't
understand
11
and
3.
Right.
But
then
they
got
to
six
and
nine,
and
they
didn't
understand
why
they
were
buying
those
Beyblades,
but
had
to
give
them
away.
Right.
And
now
that
they're
11
and
14,
they
wait
for
those
lists
and
they
want
me
to
hand
it
to
them
so
they
can
independently
shop,
and
they
want
me
to
spend
more
than
whatever
the
minimum
is,
and
they
keep
telling
me,
but
mommy,
you
don't
understand.
If
they
need
socks
on
their
list,
we
should
probably
get
them
shoes
also.
Right.
And
that
was
to
me
the
eye-opening
moment
that
I've
succeeded
as
a
parent.
The
generational
system
of
giving
is
what
I
aspire
to.
Tell
me
a
little
bit
about
what
gives
you
hope.
SPEAKER_00
30:21
That
right
there.
We
we
need
to
care
about
each
other.
Somehow
we've
lost
that
in
some
ways.
I
remember
as
a
child
running
the
neighborhood,
we
didn't
have
cell
phones,
and
someone
would
tell
my
mom
where
I
was
in
the
1900s.
Or
that
in
the
1900s,
yes.
And
that
they
saw
me,
and
if
I
fell,
they'd
pick
me
up,
they'd
clean
me
up,
and
off
I'd
go
on
my
bike.
And
do
we
have
that
anymore?
Do
we
feel
a
responsibility
for
each
other?
I
don't
see
it
the
way
I
felt
it
as
a
child
or
as
growing
up,
that
we
have
a
responsibility
to
each
other.
You
know,
tikkun
alam
is
the
Jewish
value
that
we
really
base
our
agency
on,
that
we
have
a
responsibility
to
make
the
world
around
ourselves
better.
Not
just
my
world,
but
your
world
and
those
I
don't
even
know.
SPEAKER_01
31:07
It's
repairing
the
world
in
the
general
sense.
So
if
you
see
something
is
wrong,
don't
just
call
it
out,
try
to
be
the
solution.
SPEAKER_00
31:14
Right.
But
to
your
point
in
the
very
beginning,
you
have
to
get
close
enough,
and
getting
close
is
a
little
uncomfortable.
So
that's
what
I
would
encourage
people
to
do.
Get
involved.
It's
great
to
give.
I'm
not
saying
don't
give,
but
show
up.
See
it,
feel
it
a
little
bit.
That
changes
your
view.
It
changes
what
your
world
around
you
looks
like,
and
it
may
change
how
you
decide
to
get
involved.
And
it
may
result
in
more
money,
maybe
that
would
be
great.
But
it
may
result
in
more
time,
which
is
also
needed.
SPEAKER_01
31:44
Time,
talent,
and
testimony.
Staff Commitment And The Wage Squeeze
SPEAKER_01
31:46
Talk
to
me.
Yeah,
let's
talk
about
testimony.
Um,
your
donors,
your
funders,
they
can't
shut
up
about
how
great
JFCS
is.
And
at
this
year's
annual
event,
what
really
I
think
and
I
I'll
say
I've
been
to
so
many
of
them,
and
they're
always
wonderful,
they're
always
meaningful.
This
year,
the
credit,
the
flowers
that
you
gave
to
your
team
members.
Talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
who
works
at
JFCS,
what
makes
them
stay
as
long
as
they
do,
why
do
we
find
people
who
previously
received
services
from
JFCS
now
working
as
counselors,
as
educators,
as
community
leaders
in
JFCS?
What's
your
secret
sauce?
What's
my
secret
sauce?
SPEAKER_00
32:28
I
think,
gosh,
I
have
so
many
wonderful
employees
that
are
committed
to
come
in
day
to
day.
And
some
of
our
work
is
hard.
Child
abuse
is
hard.
It's
hard
to
see
your
kids
on
your
case
that
have
been
battered
and
broken
and
to
show
up
every
day
for
them.
But
they
are
committed
and
they
really
do
believe
and
change.
They
really
do
have
hope
that
with
the
right
supports
and
the
right
services
that
people
can
grow
and
that
we
can
help
make
families
stay
whole
or
become
whole.
So
I
think
there's
that
faith
in,
is
it
faith
in
humanity?
Is
it
faith
that
things
can
get
better?
Faith
that
even
if
I'm
playing
a
small
part,
I
am
making
a
difference
and
I'm
making
a
difference
in
someone's
life.
For
the
people
that
receive
services
that
now
give
or
work
for
us,
they
know
what
getting
that
food
meant
to
them.
They
know
what
it
meant
to
have
JFCS
available
to
them.
And
now
they
can
share
that
with
other
people.
And
it's
it's
rewarding.
It
it's
it's
the
giving
back,
it's
how
you
grow
within
yourself.
There's
nothing
better.
If
people
don't
believe
it,
but
when
you're
giving
and
you're
helping
and
you
go
home,
you
may
be
tired,
you
may
be
exhausted.
But
there's
there's
something
inside
of
you
that
grows
and
that
makes
you
feel
good.
And
so
there
really
is
healing
in
giving.
And
and
people
don't
always
know
that,
but
once
they
they
get
a
taste
of
it,
then
they
get
hooked.
And
that's
why
they
stay
and
they're
loyal
and
they
see
the
outcomes
and
they
see
the
success
and
they
see
staff
being
recognized.
It's
it's
frustrating
when
people
realize,
don't
realize
that
I
need
people
to
do
the
work.
I
need
people
to
buy
the
food
and
distribute
the
food.
It
takes
a
workforce
to
do
the
work
that
we
do,
and
they
are
important
and
they
have
to
be
supported,
and
they
need
to
have
a
livable
wage.
And
so
that's
that's
a
balance
in
trying
to
educate
people
that
are
my
staff
need
to
have
a
livable
wage
too.
SPEAKER_01
34:21
Back
to
affordable
housing.
Yes.
This
is
one
of
those
things
that
concerns
me
the
most
when
we
think
about
the
people
who
work
for
JFCS,
or
teachers,
or
nurses.
Law
enforcement.
Law
enforcement.
Yes.
The
access
to
affordable
housing.
We're
talking
about
getting
in
the
door.
Um,
was
it
60?
SPEAKER_00
34:38
You
need
66,000.
Well,
I
don't
think
teachers
start
at
66,000.
I
know
my
staff,
a
lot
of
my
staff
doesn't
start
at
66,000.
So
they're
relying
on
roommates.
Many
of
them
still
live
with
their
parents.
It's
it's
difficult.
So
the
people
that
are
providing
the
help
very
often
sometimes
need
help.
SPEAKER_01
34:56
Two
generations
ago,
the
average
age
for
a
home
buyer
was
in
their
20s
and
now
it's
in
their
40s.
SPEAKER_00
35:01
Right.
SPEAKER_01
35:01
Are
you
finding
your
staff
members
impacted
by
what's
happening?
SPEAKER_00
35:06
Do
you
rent
they
rent,
they
have
very
high
interest
rates
on
their
vehicles.
They
are
one
car
repair
away.
There's
a
lot
of
times
where
our
organization
has
I'm
lucky
to
have
my
when
my
dad
passed
away,
we
started
a
CEO
fund.
Oh
wow.
But
I
was
able
to
I'm
able
to
help
staff
on
occasion.
And
so
May
his
memory
be
for
a
blessing.
I
know,
I
love
it.
He
would
love
it.
So
I
I
help
my
staff
a
lot.
SPEAKER_01
35:30
You
bring
tears
to
my
eyes
every
episode.
I
don't
know
why.
Sorry
about
that.
No,
I
that's
not
my
intention.
It's
in
such
a
good
How To Volunteer And Celebrate Birthdays
SPEAKER_01
35:37
way.
Um,
we're
recording
now
at
the
Performers
Academy,
um,
and
uh
the
foster
children
that
are
served
here
at
the
Performers
Academy
healing
through
the
arts.
Yes.
Um
it's
important.
Yeah,
it
is.
And
I
brought
my
son
to
a
showcase
last
summer.
They're
powerful,
aren't
they?
Oh
my
gosh.
He
walked
out,
and
just
like
your
son,
he
said,
they're
my
age.
That
boy
was
my
age
with
that
story
of
abuse
um
and
trauma,
and
he
wanted
to
know
what
he
could
do.
So
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
those
hours,
the
community
service
hours,
and
how
people
can
learn
more
about
what
happens
at
JFCS.
Do
you
do
tours?
Do
you
meet
with
people?
How
can
we
get
more
engaged
and
more
involved?
SPEAKER_00
36:18
Sure.
The
fastest
way
is
to
go
online.
Go
to
the
www.jfcsjacks.org.
You
can
go
online,
you'll
be
in
the
GR
programs,
you
can
give,
you
can
see
volunteer
opportunities.
We
have
a
volunteer
coordinator,
Melissa.
So
if
you
were
to
call
the
organization
and
say,
I
want
to
volunteer
and
get
involved,
she
will
sit
down
with
you
and
talk
to
you
about
the
opportunities.
If
it's
around
the
holidays,
it's
probably
going
to
be
our
holiday
gift
giving
program.
We're
starting
our
foster
care
um
birthday
lunches
again.
Oh
my
gosh,
I
just
talked
about
that
the
other
day.
So
we
stopped
and
then
we
started
again.
We're
starting
them
again.
Thank
God.
So
um
that
came
from
a
sign
real
quick.
It
was
just
when
we
did
a
study
on
our
foster
kids
that
were
aging
out,
and
they
said,
You
do
a
good
job,
I
get
my
license,
I
get
my
social
security
card,
but
I
haven't
ever
had
my
birthday
celebrated.
And
it
just
slammed
me
because
I
celebrate
my
birthday
for
a
month.
My
child
doesn't
have
one
birthday
cake,
he
has
eight.
You
know,
we
do
all
these
different
things.
I
decorate
the
night
before.
And
to
never
have
said,
I
want
a
vanilla
cake
with
chocolate
icing
and
I
want
a
set
of
ear
pods
or
whatever,
and
to
get
them.
Um
I
it
just
I
was
like,
what
are
we
doing?
We've
missed
the
boat.
So
now
we
have
volunteers
that
will
buy
the
cake
that
the
child
wants
and
requests.
They
may
want
cupcakes,
they
may
want
coconut
cake,
whatever
that
is.
And
then
they
also
do
a
wish
list,
just
like
our
holiday
giving,
about
this
is
the
present
that
I
would
like
to
see.
And
we
go
to
a
restaurant.
Many
of
them
haven't
eaten
at
a
restaurant
that
they
are
served.
So
they
that's
a
new
experience,
and
they
get
to
we
get
to
work
with
them
on
that,
and
we
get
to
have
conversation,
and
we
get
to
say
you
are
important
for
our
kids
that
are
abused.
Sometimes
they
have
been
told
that
they
they
shouldn't
have
ever
been
born
or
they
feel
like
they
shouldn't
have
been
born.
And
so
to
have
us
as
an
organization
and
their
caseworker
and
then
this
individual
come
and
say,
I'm
so
thankful
you're
alive.
I'm
so
thankful
for
your
that
you're
here
and
that
you
were
born
and
you
are
worthy
of
being
celebrated,
that
is
a
huge
message,
and
it's
a
powerful
one
and
it's
an
important
one.
SPEAKER_01
38:18
I
thank
you
for
bringing
back
that
program
because
I
remember
how
impactful
it
was
for
me
to
participate
in
for
that
very
reason
to
be
able
to
share
with
someone
how
valued
and
valuable
they
are,
even
if
they've
never
heard
it
from
anyone
else.
Why Rural Counties Need More Services
SPEAKER_01
38:33
I
can
promise
you
that
relaying
that
message
probably
impacted
me
for
for
a
long
time
after.
I
don't
know
if
they
remembered
me
afterwards,
but
I
sure
remember
that.
You
do.
Um
how
long
have
you
been
at
JFC
this
now?
SPEAKER_00
38:49
This
is
so
young.
Uh
28
years.
You're
still
so
young.
You
age
backwards
like
a
vampire.
Yeah,
that's
it.
Twenty-eight
years,
and
I've
been
the
CEO,
I
guess
almost
fifth,
yeah,
fifteen,
because
my
son's
fifteen.
SPEAKER_01
39:02
What's
been
your
favorite
part?
What
has
made
the
biggest
impact
on
you
after
all
these
years?
SPEAKER_00
39:07
What
I
like
from
a
staff
standpoint
is
because
we
have
a
variety
of
programs,
you
can
move
throughout
the
organization.
Obviously,
I
didn't
start
as
a
CEO,
I
started
as
a
social
worker.
And
as
I
grew
and
as
I
gained
more
information
and
as
I
got
more
education,
I
was
able
to
move
throughout
the
organization
and
do
different
things.
I
started
in
a
school-based
program
at
Stilwell
Middle
School,
then
I
worked
with
kids
that
were
sexually
abused,
and
then
I
worked
into
the
child,
you
know,
in
the
child
welfare
arena,
and
then
I
moved
up
in
administration.
So
I
love
that
we're
able
to
give
staff
an
opportunity
that,
yes,
if
you
go
get
your
master's,
you
could
stay
here
and
have
another
opportunity.
What
I
also
love
most
about
our
organization
is
the
fact
that
we
can
meet
multiple
needs
in
one
place.
Jacksonville
is
large,
it's
transportation
is
always
a
challenge.
And
the
fact
that
we
can,
we
can't
meet
all
needs
in
one
space,
but
we
can
meet
a
lot
of
them.
And
so
we
really
get
to,
when
people
leave
our
building,
we've
helped
them.
Versus
here
you
go,
here's
a
referral,
here's
a
bus
pass,
good
luck.
We've
really
gotten
those
lights
turned
back
on
or
given
you
food
or
gotten
you
that
counseling,
and
we're
able
to
do
it
in
that
one
safe
space.
SPEAKER_01
40:11
Yeah,
it's
a
beautiful
space.
Um
and
there's
the
secondary
location
where
the
food
pantry
and
the
clothing
closet
is.
Now
we
have
an
office
in
Nassau,
Baker,
Stark,
and
Gainesville.
So
we've
lots
of
offices
in
each
one
of
those
counties
now?
There
are.
And
what
is
the
predominant
need
that
you're
finding
people
would
be
surprised
to
hear
has
been
added
to
JFCS's
list
of
things
to
do?
SPEAKER_00
40:35
I
I
would
still
go
back
to
food.
I
would
go
back
to
food
and
financial
assistance.
It's
the
root
of
a
lot
of
problems.
Um,
mental
health.
Um,
if
someone
wanted
to
give
towards
mental
health
services,
so
there
would
be
there
won't
be
any
barriers.
Our
psychiatrists
and
our
nurse
practitioners,
so
there
aren't
any
barriers
to
accessing
mental
health.
Um,
but
our
expansion
really
was
around
child
abuse
and
then
building
resources
up
in
those
communities.
And
the
rural
communities
are
wonderful
and
they
are
supportive
and
they
are
hungry
for
services.
Baker
has
been
phenomenal.
The
school
system
donated
space
for
us
for
our
food
pantry.
The
sheriff's
office
has
been
phenomenal.
They
help
us,
they're
giving
out
our
flyers
when
they
go
to
domestic
violence
and
mental
health
calls
so
that
we
can
provide
services
there.
Those
those
communities
are
really
wanting
assistance
and
they're
wanting
resources,
and
they
want
us
to
help
them
build
those
resources
up,
and
they're
absolutely
partnering
with
us
in
doing
that,
and
we're
seeing
it
happen.
SPEAKER_01
41:28
So
I
love
that
we're
keeping
you
up
less
at
night
in
other
counties
a
little
bit.
You're
never
gonna
sleep
a
hundred
percent.
Um,
and
that's
partially
why
I
keep
growing
in
admiration
for
you.
Every
time
I
speak
with
you,
you've
uncovered
one
new
area
that
you
can
dig
deeper
into,
and
not
for
the
purpose
of
just
educating,
but
in
solving
those
needs.
Absolutely.
Is
there
anything
I
can
do
to
help?
Keep
doing
what
you're
doing.
SPEAKER_00
41:53
What
you're
doing,
you're
doing
it
right
now.
SPEAKER_01
41:56
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
back
and
always
chatting
with
me
and
bringing
awareness,
education,
and
opportunity
for
people
to
become
more
engaged
and
involved.
Like
you
said,
this
is
not
another
county,
another
community.
I
realize
that
my
son
who
plays
baseball,
when
he
plays,
all
those
kids
are
from
everywhere.
And
so
if
one
kid
is
hungry
in
another
county,
it
matters.
It
matters.
Closing Reflections And A Leadership Mensch
SPEAKER_01
42:20
When
I
first
sat
across
from
Colleen
in
January
2023,
I
thought
I
was
recording
a
podcast
episode.
I
didn't
realize
I
was
recording
a
lesson
because
over
these
conversations
I've
come
to
understand
something.
People
don't
fall
apart
overnight.
Most
people
don't
wake
up
homeless
or
hungry
or
in
crisis.
Usually
it's
small
things
a
medical
bill,
a
rent
increase,
a
lost
job,
a
car
repair.
Tiny
cracks
that
eventually
become
fractures,
and
those
fractures
can
undo
the
entire
scaffolding
of
a
family's
life.
And
maybe
that's
why
community
matters
so
much.
Exactly
what
you
said,
Colleen.
Get
out
there,
get
in
there,
see
with
your
own
eyes,
feel
it
with
your
heart,
so
that
it's
not
something
you
can
just
close
your
eyes
to.
It's
standing
close
enough
to
catch
them
before
they
fall
completely.
In
today's
conversation,
if
it
reminds
you
of
anything,
it's
this
food
isn't
just
food,
housing
isn't
just
housing,
mental
health
isn't
just
mental
health.
They
are
dignity,
they
are
security,
they
are
humanity.
You
can't
deal
with
what
you
don't
feel.
And
perhaps
being
awake
simply
means
seeing
people
clearly
enough
to
realize
that
their
struggle
could
become
our
struggle
faster
than
any
of
us
would
like
to
believe.
Thank
you
so
much,
Colleen.
Thank
you.
And
now
it's
time
for
our
honorable
mention.
Mensch
is
the
Yiddish
word
for
someone
who
shows
up
with
integrity,
responsibility,
and
heart.
Today's
honorable
mention
goes
to
Alicia
Bauman.
I
love
her.
There
are
some
people
who
walk
into
a
room
and
immediately
take
up
space.
And
then
there
are
people
like
Alicia
who
create
space
for
everyone
else.
As
the
CEO
of
the
Women's
Center
of
Jacksonville,
Alicia
is
helping
guide
an
organization
that
has
spent
decades
empowering
women.
Through
counseling,
advocacy,
financial
education,
career
support,
and
personal
growth.
The
Women's
Center
doesn't
just
help
people
survive
difficult
seasons,
it
helps
people
rediscover
their
worth,
their
voice,
and
their
future.
And
somehow
Alicia
manages
to
do
all
that
while
making
people
feel
deeply
seen,
much
like
you,
Colleen.
Not
performatively
seen
and
not
network
events
seen,
human
seen.
She
is
also
the
author
of
The
Art
of
Space
Making,
which
honestly
feels
less
like
a
title
and
more
like
her
life's
philosophy.
Because
whether
she's
mentoring,
listening,
leading,
or
simply
showing
up
with
intention,
Alicia
has
a
rare
gift
for
creating
environments
where
people
feel
safe
enough
to
become
more
fully
themselves.
And
in
a
world
where
so
many
people
are
fighting
to
be
heard,
to
belong,
to
breathe,
that
kind
of
presence
is
sacred.
So
today
we
honor
a
woman
who
reminds
us
that
leadership
is
not
always
about
being
the
loudest
voice
in
the
room.
Sometimes
it's
about
being
the
person
who
quietly
makes
room
for
everybody
else's
voice
to
matter
to.
And
that
will
do
it
for
us
today.
Thank
you
for
joining
me
for
another
episode
of
Shmoose
with
Suze.
If
this
conversation
made
you
think,
feel,
or
see
something
a
little
differently,
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it
because
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smart
ass,
reminding
you
what's
an
envelope
if
not
for
pushing.
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inspired
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