Recalibration And Identity Across Careers
SPEAKER_02
0:00
Today's
conversation
feels
personal
to
me
because
I
understand
recalibration,
resilience,
and
reclamation
in
real
life.
Not
the
cute
social
media
version
where
somebody
changes
a
job
title
and
suddenly
becomes
a
reinvented
woman.
I
mean
the
real
version.
The
version
where
you
look
around
at
your
life
and
realize
that
somehow
you've
lived
six
different
lives
inside
one.
Over
three
decades,
I've
moved
from
property
management
to
homeless
services,
from
real
estate
development
to
education,
nonprofit
work,
community
building,
storytelling,
advocacy.
On
paper,
some
people
might
call
that
a
winding
road.
I
don't.
I
call
it
threading
the
needle.
Because
when
I
look
back
now,
I
realize
every
chapter
carried
the
same
DNA:
people,
purpose,
possibility.
The
address
has
changed,
the
business
cards
changed,
the
titles
changed,
but
the
assignment
never
really
did.
And
I
think
many
of
us
reach
a
moment
where
we're
asking
to
rediscover
ourselves.
Not
because
we
failed,
not
because
we
took
a
wrong
turn,
but
because
life
evolves
and
suddenly
asks,
who
are
you
now
and
what
parts
of
yourself
are
you
taking
with
you?
Today's
guest
understands
that
question
at
a
level
few
people
ever
will.
Because
imagine
serving
your
country,
leading
people
under
extraordinary
pressure,
living
a
life
of
mission
and
structure,
and
then
stepping
into
an
entirely
new
landscape
while
still
thinking,
what's
next?
And
that's
what
we're
going
to
tackle
today.
Hi,
I'm
Suze
here
with
a
dose
of
culture,
values,
and
global
citizenship
with
just
enough
Chutzba
to
tackle
the
topics
others
may
avoid.
Today
I'm
excited
to
welcome
back
Alexa
Jenkins.
She's
been
on
to
Schmooze
twice
before,
and
the
episodes
are
attached
in
the
show
notes.
We
talked
about
her
pirate
hunting
days
and
personal
connection
to
her
team,
leadership
style,
and
the
public
connection
that
becomes
your
legacy.
Alexa
has
served
our
country
as
a
commander
in
the
United
States
Navy,
leading
with
discipline,
service,
and
purpose
through
a
career
defined
by
commitment
and
resilience.
As
a
wife,
mother,
and
officer,
she
balanced
multiple
identities
while
carrying
responsibilities
that
most
people
can
only
imagine.
Today,
she
has
transitioned
from
military
service
into
the
corporate
world,
bringing
that
same
leadership
mindset
into
her
new
skills.
Her
journey
represents
something
so
many
people
wrestle
with.
How
do
you
honor
who
you've
been
while
creating
space
for
who
you're
becoming?
In
addition
to
being
on
my
personal
board
of
directors,
she
is
also
my
dream
co-host
for
when
this
show
gets
picked
up
as
a
talk
show.
We're
talking
about
transition,
reinvention,
fear,
purpose,
and
what
happens
when
one
mission
ends
and
another
begins.
Hi,
Alexa.
Hi,
Suze.
So
excited
to
be
back.
Welcome
back
to
Schmooz
with
Suze.
Culture First When Changing Careers
SPEAKER_02
2:44
I
want
to
start
a
little
bit
about
transition.
When
people
transition
careers,
they
often
focus
on
titles.
What
did
you
focus
on
instead?
SPEAKER_00
2:52
I
focused
on
culture.
If
I
could
narrow
it
down
to
one
thing,
it
was
culture.
I
think
there
aren't
many
people
who
get
an
opportunity
to
reinvent
themselves.
And
when
you
get
that
opportunity,
you
should
focus
on
where
do
you
thrive?
Like
if
you're
a
fish,
go
find
an
ocean.
Like
this
is
not
a
forest.
Right,
right.
And
so
it's
important
that
when
we
look
at
what
makes
us
happy
and
purpose-driven
with
work.
Normally
that's
a
place
or
people
that
you're
going
to
be
spending
a
lot
of
time
with,
uh,
not
just
your
family,
but
these
other
people,
this
other
um
place.
So
be
around
people
in
a
culture
that
you
thrive
in.
So
for
me,
I
looked
at
where
were
there
gonna
be
smart,
curious,
funny
people
who
enjoyed
what
they
were
doing
and
were
invested
in
constant
learning.
SPEAKER_02
4:00
You
spent
years
serving
as
a
commander
in
the
Navy.
Many
people
struggle
with
change
because
they
think
they're
leaving
part
of
themselves
behind.
Did
you
ever
feel
that
tension?
SPEAKER_00
4:09
You
know,
I
think
this
is
probably
where
I
excelled
in
the
transition.
But
I
will
say
that
a
lot
of
my
peers,
a
lot
of
veterans,
do
struggle
with
this,
especially,
and
I
don't
ever
mean
to
broad
brush
and
generalize,
but
a
lot
of
men
when
they're
leaving
the
service,
the
only
thing
that
they
have
ever
described
themselves
as,
like
just
to
themselves,
is
I
am
a
naval
officer.
Or
insert
your
you
know,
service
of
choice.
But
this
is
who
I
am,
and
I
have
always
said,
like,
I
am
Alexa,
and
I
do
this
job.
SPEAKER_02
4:49
So
you
already
had
it
in
your
mind
that
who
you
are
is
not
defined
by
the
role
that
you're
in
professionally.
Correct,
correct.
SPEAKER_00
4:56
So
I
think
that
made
the
transition
for
me
a
lot
easier
because
if
your
self-definition
is
I
am
a
driven
woman,
I
am
a
smart
one,
I
am
someone
who's
a
great
storyteller,
I
am
whatever
your
role
is.
You
are
all
of
those,
plus
a
builder.
Correct.
Yes.
And
so
saying
who
you
are
helps
shape
where
do
you
want
to
go.
Again,
find
that
culture,
find
that
ocean
for
yourself.
Um,
so
go
and
look
for
things
that
you
do
well
naturally.
And
there's
lots
of
them,
right?
Like
people
have
all
sorts
of
talents,
and
there's
ways
to
be
happy
and
thriving,
and
uh
many
different
ways.
SPEAKER_02
5:44
So
that
leads
me
to
my
next
question.
Debriefs And Skills That Transfer
SPEAKER_02
5:46
Being
an
officer
provides
you
with
a
skill
set
and
some
strengths
that
you
have
been
sort
of
leaning
into.
What
followed
you
from
the
Navy
into
the
corporate
world
that
you
didn't
initially
recognize
as
being
something
that
was
valuable
outside
of
a
naval
base?
SPEAKER_00
6:05
Yeah,
I
would
say
it's
terrible,
really
good
self-assessment.
So
after
every
evolution
that
we
do
in
the
military,
there'd
always
be
this
debrief,
and
you
would
sit
around
and
everybody
would
talk
about
how
you
could
do
whatever
the
thing
you
just
did,
how
you
could
do
it
better.
The
Monday
morning
quarterback.
Correct.
And
while
I
was
in
the
service,
sometimes
you'd
be
like,
oh,
we
have
to
have
the
D
Rod,
we
have
to
have
the
debrief.
I
love
it.
It's
awful.
You
know,
like
why
do
we
do
this
all
the
time?
But
really
focusing
in
on
that
and
taking
the
time
and
the
space
to
self-self-assess
and
say,
how
can
we
do
it
better?
made
me
a
better
teammate
at
my
current
job
because
it
continues
to
have
you
question
and
you
don't
get
complacent
and
you
say,
Okay,
well,
we
did
it
this
way,
but
could
we
have
done
it
better?
Could
we
have
communicated
better?
And
it's
not
a
blame
game.
That's
important.
It
is
a
it
is
a
honest
look
at
what
could
change
to
improve
and
to
not
be
satisfied
with
the
way
we've
always
done
it.
SPEAKER_02
7:17
I
love
that.
I
love
that.
That's
such
an
important
lesson
for
people
to
remember
no
matter
where
they
are
in
life.
Now
you've
been
navigating
multiple
roles
concurrently.
Your
wife,
mother,
officer,
leader.
What
role,
as
you
self-assessed
yourself,
probably
in
all
of
them,
did
you
think
before
you
left
one
entity
and
moved
to
another
shaped
you
or
contributed
most
to
who
you
would
become?
SPEAKER_00
7:49
I
would
say
probably
being
a
mother.
I
think
being
a
mother
gave
me
a
patience
that
I
didn't
know
that
I
possessed.
It
gave
me
a
grace
about
people.
It
allowed
me
to
look
at
someone
and
assume
positive
intent.
Right?
I
think
when
you're
young
without
having
your
own
kids,
it
was
very
easy
for
me
personally
to
be
like,
well,
why
don't
they
why
did
why
were
you
late?
Yeah,
why
was
this
like
you've
done
this
thing
to
to
me?
Um,
and
being
a
mother
allowed
me
to
look
at
people
in
a
different
light
and
be
like,
maybe
they
have
other
stuff
going
on,
maybe
there's
a
reason
behind
this.
Um,
and
to
be
a
little
bit
more
forgiving
and
a
little
bit
more
curious
about
other
people,
which
then
in
turn
made
better
relationships
to
move
forward.
SPEAKER_02
8:51
I
completely
understand
where
you're
coming
from.
I
in
my
own
experiences.
Uh,
before
I
had
my
kids,
I
remember
being
far
less
forgiving
when
it
came
to
people
telling
me
about
childcare
or
hiccups
that
were
happening
in
their
home
life.
It
was
almost
like,
I
don't
understand,
can't
you
just
figure
it
out?
unknown
9:11
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02
9:11
Then
you
live
with
someone
who's
a
fraction
of
your
size
that
can
put
you
in
your
place,
and
you
realize,
not
always
can
I
figure
it
out
in
a
timely
manner.
And
I
hope
and
pray
that
someone
is
willing
to
extend
that
grace.
unknown
9:22
Yeah.
SkillBridge And The Veteran Hiring Gap
SPEAKER_02
9:23
So
now
we're
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
transitioning
out,
and
that's
a
scary
thing
for
people
when
you
say,
you
know,
moving.
You
can't
just
say
I'm
an
officer
in
the
Navy
and
now
I
want
to
do
a
comparable
job
outside
of
the
Navy.
SPEAKER_00
9:37
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02
9:38
What
were
the
resume
builders?
What
were
transferable
skills
that
you
could
then
put
onto
your,
you
know,
next
cover
letter
that
made
you
seem
like
you
were
not
going
to
be
this
oddball
who's
only
able
to
do
something
on
a
warship?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00
9:54
Yeah.
You
know,
I
think
one
of
the
greatest
things
that
the
Navy,
well,
not
just
the
Navy,
I
mean
Congress
mandated
this,
but
the
services
allow
people
to
do
a
skill
bridge
program.
And
I
can't
support
this
program
enough.
So
the
last
six
months
that
I
was
in
the
Navy,
I
was
really
getting
experience
in
the
corporate
world
while
the
Navy
was
paying
my
salary.
And
so
therefore,
I
was
learning
hard
skills
while
showcasing
what
I
would
call
like
my
softer
skills
of
being
able
to
communicate
clearly,
of
being
able
to
tell
a
good
story,
of
being
a
very
quick
learner,
uh,
someone
who
could
operate
with
ambiguity
and
just
be
a
person
who
was
like,
no,
I
can
figure
stuff
out,
right?
Right.
So,
but
if
I
hadn't
had
that
opportunity
to
also
get
the
hard
skills
and
the
at-bats
in
the
corporate
world,
I
think
it
would
have
made
the
transition
much
harder.
Because
everybody
thinks
they're
more
mysterious
than
they
are.
Everybody
thinks
their
job
is
like
way
harder
than
it,
like
no
one
could
possibly
learn
this.
But
you
can
if
people
just
give
you
a
chance.
Did
you
know,
by
the
way,
Susie,
that
63%
of
veterans
today
are
either
underemployed
or
unemployed?
I
did
not
know
that.
So
when
we
talk
about
underemployed,
I'm
talking
about
people
who
take
jobs
that
they
are,
you
know,
like
they
have
more
skills,
but
they
take
less
qualified
jobs
because
people
don't
understand
what
veterans
can
bring
to
the
table.
SPEAKER_02
11:36
That
is
a
fascinating
statistic,
specifically
because
if
I'm
going
to
trust
you
to
protect
and
defend
me,
then
I
probably
should
trust
you
to
do
a
lot
of
things
that
are
community
engaged
or
leadership-based.
So,
what
were
experiences
you
originally
thought
no
one
in
the
corporate
world
is
going
to
care
about
this,
but
ended
up
being
incredibly
useful
or
a
superpower
today?
SPEAKER_00
11:59
Yeah,
I
think
I
never
thought
that
all
of
those
PowerPoint
briefs
that
I
had
to
make
uh
in
the
Navy
to
convince
um
to
convince
leaders
of
a
path
forward
would
be
useful
in
my
life.
But
how
you
present,
what
information
is
shown,
what
order
you
show
it
in,
how
you
are
able
to
convince
somebody
who
has
authority
into
an
action
is
a
really
great
way
to
know
that
you
are
made
for
sales.
Right?
Same
thing.
Influence
um
is
the
same
whether
you're
in
the
military
or
you're
in
the
corporate
world.
SPEAKER_02
12:42
That's
an
interesting
perspective.
You're
right.
I
think
when
you
think
about
what
successful
transition
looks
like,
is
it
more
skill
or
is
it
more
confidence?
Is
it
knowing
what
you're
capable
of
doing,
or
is
it
knowing
what
you're
capable
of
learning
to
do?
SPEAKER_00
12:57
I
think
it's
both,
but
but
the
number
one
thing
I
would
say
is
who
believes
that
you
have
both
of
those
things?
Does
someone
else
think,
Susie,
I
believe
you
have
the
confidence
and
I
believe
you
have
the
skills
to
do
this?
That
you
just
need
one
person
to
believe
that
and
you
are
going
to
be
golden.
SPEAKER_02
13:20
Wow.
So
for
those
63%,
where
do
you
think
that
there's
a
lapse
in
them
not
feeling
that
degree
of
confidence
to
be
employed
adequately
or
even
to
take
a
chance
on
themselves?
SPEAKER_00
13:33
I
think
awareness
is
step
one.
I
don't
think
people
are
aware
of
all
of
the
resources
at
their
fingertips
in
their
own
local
communities.
Um
I
don't
think
people
are
aware
of
maybe
how
to
self-assess
themselves
and
understand.
But
don't
just
look
for
a
job,
understand
who
you
are
and
then
find
something
that
fits
who
you
are,
who
you
want
to
be,
who
you're
going
to
be,
because
then
you
will
succeed
because
you're
internally
motivated
to
do
it.
A
lot
of
people
tell
officers
that
are
transitioned,
you
should
get
your
PMP
certification,
a
project
manager
certification,
because
clearly
you
have
you
have
managed
lots
of
projects
in
your
life,
which
is
true.
I'm
sure
there
are
some
great
PMP
folks
who
are
providing
the
project.
I'm
trying
to
get
a
PMP
also
because
I
come
from
the
construction
field.
Yeah,
just
get
one
of
those
and
you'll
be
golden.
And
I
would
ask
people,
well,
do
you
want
to
do
project
management?
And
then
they
would
say,
Well,
no,
I
can't
stand
people.
But
they're
like,
but
I
can
get
a
job
doing
that.
But
you
don't
want
to
do
this.
So
don't
just
collect
certifications
and
skills
that
you
don't
actually
want
to
do.
I
think
the
hardest
part
for
veterans
is
really
to
take
the
time
to
sit
down
and
really
look
at
what
do
you
do
well
naturally
that
nobody
has
to
tell
you
to
do.
So
if
you
went
to
work
every
day
and
this
was
your
work
environment,
what
does
paradise
look
for
you?
What
does
that
look
like?
Okay,
go
find
people
who
are
in
that
that
do
it
every
day,
and
then
ask
really
good
questions
and
figure
out
now
does
it
actually
work
with
your
life?
Yeah,
it
sounds
super
interesting,
and
gosh,
I
really
love
yoga
and
I
just
want
to
be
a
yoga
instructor.
Like,
oh
okay,
well,
have
you
talked
to
any
of
them
yet?
Well,
no.
Okay,
well,
you
should
probably
do
that.
SPEAKER_02
15:30
Right.
Probably
find
out
how
many
hundreds
of
hours
it
takes
to
become
certified.
Correct.
SPEAKER_00
15:34
Do
you
have
a
space
do
you
want
to
do
this?
SPEAKER_02
15:37
You
know,
do
you
want
to
be
an
entrepreneur,
own
your
own
space?
Do
you
want
to
work
for
other
people?
There's
so
many
avenues.
What
are
some
resources
that
you
reached
out
to
initially?
Cold Outreach That Builds Opportunity
SPEAKER_02
15:45
I
mean,
people
will
compare
and
say,
Well,
I
wasn't
an
officer,
I
wasn't
a
retiring,
you
know,
it
almost
like
you
had
the
luxury
without
realizing,
no,
this
was
you
actually
having
to
jump
and
ship
nobody
intended
to
an
entire
new
whether
it
was
water,
lands,
forest,
desert.
SPEAKER_00
16:05
And
I
would
say
I
didn't
do
it
as
a
beeline.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
think
that
they
have
to
get
the
answer
right
away.
I
took
a
lot
of
courses
and
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
what
I
do
now.
I
thought
maybe
I'll
be
in
marketing,
maybe
I'll
do
something
in
sports,
maybe
I
will,
you
know,
I
could
do
that,
I
could
do
this.
You
see
lots
of
titles
that
you
think
to
yourself,
I
could
do
that.
Um,
and
just
reach
out.
I
cold
contacted
so
many
people,
in
addition
to
having
actual
warm
intros
and
using
a
network,
but
many
just
cold
outreach.
Hi,
I'd
like
to
just
talk
to
you
about
what
you
do.
And
again,
I'm
not
looking
for
a
job.
I'm
looking
to
hear
about
them
and
their
life.
And
lots
of
people
will
give
you
20,
30
minutes
because
you're
not
asking
for
a
favor,
you're
just
getting
information.
Um
and
people
love
to
talk
about
themselves.
They
do.
I
think
I
talked
to
over,
I
mean,
it
it's
definitely
over
200
people.
Really?
Yeah,
on
like
way
over
200.
SPEAKER_02
17:11
Um,
give
me
an
example
of
what
one
of
those
successful
conversations
sounded
like
and
one
of
those,
like,
oh,
I
feel
like
I
wasted
their
time
and
they're
annoyed
with
me
now.
Did
you
have
one
of
each?
SPEAKER_00
17:21
Um,
I
never
felt
that
I
had
a
conversation
that
I
wasted
anybody's
time
or
that
wasted
my
time.
Good
because
everybody,
and
this
is
my
dad
used
to
tell
me
this,
but
everybody
knows
something
that
you
don't
know.
True.
So
asking
people
questions
about
themselves,
learning
about
themselves,
learning
about
different
industries,
it's
still
all
fascinating.
Whether
or
not
I
want
to
do
it
for
me,
I
mean,
that's
good
information
that
I
needed
to
know.
I
talked
to
folks,
the
guy
who
started
Meow
Wolf,
right?
You
know,
the
uh
it's
like
an
art
uh
museum,
I
don't
even
know
the
right
word,
uh
interactive
space
that
you
walk
through
and
there's
art
and
you
experience
it
and
it's
super
cool.
And
I
thought,
well,
that's
really
neat.
Yeah.
And
I
would
like
to
open
one
in
Jacksonville.
So
what
would
that
take?
What
would
that
what
would
that
take?
I
don't
know.
I
talked
to
people
in
design,
I
talk
to
people
that
learn
things
that
I
would
never
know.
Hey,
all
of
those
exhibits
have
to
be
fireproof.
So
great,
you
have
artists,
but
like,
do
they
have
special
coatings
so
that
the
building
will
be
okay?
No,
no,
no
idea.
No,
you
don't
know
what
you
don't
know.
I
have
no
idea.
But
here's
somebody
who
is,
I
have
no
I
am
not
going
to
improve
this
man's
life
at
all.
I
have
no
connections
that
benefit
him.
And
yet
he
totally
took
time
to
talk
with
me.
SPEAKER_02
18:40
I
will
say
that
Jacksonville
uh
in
Northeast
Florida
specifically
is
exceptional
in
that
way.
People
here
are
so
forthcoming
with
giving
of
themselves
their
time,
their
talent,
the
information.
I
say
often
that
it's
a
great
pilot
city
for
when
someone
wants
to
do
what
you
did,
cold
call
and
learn
about
different
spaces,
fields,
opportunities
because
we're
always
trying
to
grow
from
within.
SPEAKER_00
19:08
Yes.
And
not
only
that,
but
I
have
never
had
a
meeting
where
people
didn't
then
say,
Oh,
would
you
like
to
talk
to
my
friend
so
and
so?
Right.
So
each
then
meeting
leads
to
more
network
to
build.
So
I
thoroughly
encourage
folks
to
just
reach
out.
Jacksonville
is
warm,
but
they
will
get
a
lot
of
response
just
by
asking
for
a
call.
Pride Service And Standing The Watch
SPEAKER_02
19:31
Let's
talk
a
little
about
reflection.
So
when
you
reflect
back
on
your
years
of
service,
what
emotion
rises
first?
Pride.
What
does
serving
your
country
mean
to
you
now
looking
backwards
instead
of
forward?
SPEAKER_00
19:44
Um
I
can't
do
it
in
one
word.
Can
I
do
it
in
two
words?
Yeah,
you
can
do
it
as
many
words.
This
isn't
a
lightning
round.
Oh
my
gosh,
what's
it?
No,
I
don't
know
a
word.
No,
the
pride
came
real
quick.
SPEAKER_02
19:59
And
I
I
can't
thank
you
enough.
And
your
family.
You're
what
generation
are
you
now?
Second?
SPEAKER_00
20:05
I'm
I'm
an
I'm
a
geriatric
millennial.
Oh,
you
mean
what
no?
I
meant
your
dad
served.
Oh,
my
dad
served,
yeah.
Yeah.
And
so
his
his
par
his
dad
served
and
then
I
served.
So
you're
the
third
generation.
Third.
All
Navy?
No.
Um,
my
dad
was
better.
He
was
a
Marine.
Um
he's
he's
what
do
they
say,
the
Marines?
Yeah,
he
my
my
dad.
Well,
you
have
to
understand,
my
father
uh
passed,
but
he
was
86.
He
was
from
a
different
generation,
and
he
used
to
love
to
tell
me
that
it
was
um
the
Navy
was
uh
the
Marines
were
a
department
of
the
Navy,
the
men's
department,
right?
This
is
these
old
sexist
jokes.
He
told
me
it
was
okay
that
I
went
to
be
in
the
Navy
because
I
was
a
woman,
so
like
it
was
okay.
He
was
still
proud
of
me,
like
it
was
still
a
good
service.
Thanks.
Um,
all
may
his
memory
for
a
blessing.
SPEAKER_02
20:55
He
was
a
funny,
smart
and
really
cool
guy
who
uh
planted
such
deep
roots
into
you,
but
provided
wings.
Yeah,
yeah,
for
sure.
So
is
there
something
that
you
miss
unexpectedly
about
that
life?
SPEAKER_00
21:11
I
think
I
I
will
always
miss
the
real
impact
that
I
felt
I
was
having
on
the
broader
country.
It's
pretty
cool
to
be
going
out,
and
I
mean,
right
now
I
have
friends
out
there
that
are
dealing
with
getting
shot
at,
and
what
is
Iran
doing?
And
how
are
we
protecting
free
uh
lines
of
sea
trade
so
that
we
can
get
all
the
goods
that
you
all
order
on
Amazon?
Like
there
are
people
out
there
right
now
that
are
making
sure
that
cargo
ships
are
getting
where
they
need
to
go.
And
there
are
people
who
are
traveling
the
world.
SPEAKER_01
21:50
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02
21:50
Yeah,
and
so
I
didn't
recognize
how
close
I
mean,
I
always
knew
that
global
citizenship
was
something
that
was
tangible
for
me
because
my
parents
are
not
from
this
country.
And
so
I
have
cousins
that
live
all
over
on
almost
every
continent,
which
means
that
I've
always
been
watching
what
the
global
media
shows
and
shares,
but
I've
also
known
that
the
local
media
is
not
gonna
give
me
a
finger
on
the
pulse.
What
are
we,
laymen?
What
are
we
like
civilians?
To
the
civilian
population,
just
how
interconnected
we
are.
And
so
when
I
see
those
campaigns
to
support
our
military
or
around
Halloween,
when
you
send
your
candy
or
to
have
kids
on
Veterans
Day,
write
those
cards
and
letters,
or
you
know,
on
Memorial
Day,
and
to
really
invest
in
how
our
children,
my
children,
feel
about
what
that
means
to
serve
and
protect
and
defend
this
amazing
life
that
we
get
to
live.
Your
friends,
your
colleagues
are
the
ones
who
are
currently
doing
that.
SPEAKER_00
23:00
Yeah.
I
mean,
I
couldn't
be
more
prouder
of
the
people
who
are
out
there.
I
think
it's
great
when
you
retire,
they
recite
this
poem
called
The
Watch.
I
know
it.
SPEAKER_02
23:11
It
brought
tears
to
my
eyes.
I
was.
SPEAKER_00
23:13
So
at
the
end
of
the
retirement,
there's
somebody
who's
still
on
active
service
that
will
come
and
uh
deliver
this
speech
about
how
for
however
many
years
you
serve
people
during
like
this
person,
meaning
you
the
person
that's
retiring,
stood
the
watch.
And
now
at
the
end,
like
this
new
person,
like
there's
people
behind
you
ready
to
stay
on
the
watch.
And
I
am
so
proud
of
the
the
fact
that
I'm
just
a
part
of
a
great
chain
that
will
continue.
There's
always
somebody
new,
there's
always
these
young
people
that
are
willing
to
raise
their
hand
and
say,
I
mean,
we
have
an
all-volunteer
force.
Do
you
know
how
incredible
that
is?
That
all
of
this
is
done
by
people,
young
people
raising
their
hand
today,
willing
to
stand
up
and
defend
this
great
country.
I
think
that's
pretty
impressive.
SPEAKER_02
24:00
So
people
can't
see
that
I'm
actually
like
welling
up
with
tears
because
I
was
there
at
your
retirement
ceremony,
and
I
think
it
was
one
of
your
closest
friends
that
was
and
she
did
such
an
exceptional
job
that
I
I
I
have
never
forgotten
it,
and
I
went
home
and
I
reread
it
and
I
researched
it
because
I
had
no
clue.
Like
like
we
just
said,
I'm
a
civilian,
and
my
family
served
only
in
other
countries
where
in
being
in
the
military
is
a
requirement.
Right.
Um,
and
so
I
have
such
a
deeper
appreciation.
Um,
all
right,
you
once
had
missions
and
deployments
that
were
what
your
schedule
was
revolving
A New Rhythm Of Family Life
SPEAKER_02
24:42
around.
Today,
let's
talk
about
a
schedule
that
includes
PTA
and
school
events.
SPEAKER_00
24:48
Oh
my
gosh,
so
many.
SPEAKER_02
24:49
What
has
that
shift
meant
for
you
personally?
SPEAKER_00
24:52
Um
I
think,
oh
gosh,
especially
PTOs.
Shout
out
to
every
mom
out
there,
whether
you
are
a
volunteer
who
shows
up
for
the
talent
shows,
the
dances,
the
luwows,
the
gosh,
I
don't
know
all
of
it.
Or
if
you're
just
a
like,
here's
some
Venmo,
please,
like
other
moms
go
do
some
do
the
Venmo.
Shout
out
to
all
of
them.
To
all
of
them.
I
had,
I
would
actually
rather
take
the
90
days
with
no
bone
no
more
than
like
the
school
year
of
May
Summer
for
moms.
Like,
oh
my
gosh,
it
is
it
is
so
much.
It
is
so
much.
So
I'm
in
awe
of
the
other
women
and
dads.
I
I
work
with
some
really
awesome
dads
at
my
local
elementary
school
as
as
well
to
make
sure
that
our
kids
are
having
fun
events.
I
mean,
God
help
them
if
they
don't
have
a
monster
mash
at
Halloween
here,
Susie.
SPEAKER_02
25:46
Oh
my
gosh,
I
know
all
about
those
sign-up
geniuses.
Oh
God's
word.
So
the
person
who
creates
a
sign-up
genius
and
the
person,
do
you
think
they
all
have
PMPs
or
they
should
make
them?
SPEAKER_00
25:54
I
do!
Those
are
the
PMP
people.
I'm
telling
you,
gosh,
I
shouldn't
I
I
really
think
that
there
should
be
a
form
when
you
enter
school
and
be
like,
hi,
are
you
a
well-organized
person
who
really
likes
to
color
code
things
and
over-communicate?
Welcome
to
the
PTO.
SPEAKER_02
26:11
Nobody
needs
me
there,
but
I
show
up
anyway.
Oh
my
gosh,
I
was
one
of
those.
So
early
on,
I
came
to
those
meetings
because
they're
free
and
they
were
at
a
time
that
was
convenient,
and
I
was
not
a
value
ad.
Early
on,
we
discovered
that
I
am
not
equipped
for
that
kind
of
thing.
Those
moms
were
super
special.
They
were
never
mad,
they
were
always
like
even
keeled,
and
I
gave
them
so
much
credit,
which
is
also
why
I
have
Venmo.
SPEAKER_00
26:36
Yeah,
you
know,
but
I'm
telling
you,
there's
a
place
for
everybody,
and
I
feel
like
right
now
my
my
son
is
in
elementary
school,
so
he's
still
at
an
age
where
he
wants
me
at
school.
So
therefore,
Susie,
I
will
make
the
PTO
part
of
my
part
of
my
week.
You
know,
I
will
show
up.
I
will
be
there
for
the
field
trip.
I
will,
I
will
be
there
for
the
luel.
I
will
sit
there
with
the
paper
craft
that
I
have
no
business
making
at
all
with
these
children.
100%,
100%.
But
man,
I
am
I'm
gonna
be
there.
SPEAKER_02
27:09
You're
present.
Absolutely.
Is
this
a
different
version
of
you
that
your
family
gets
to
see
since
retirement?
SPEAKER_00
27:14
Yeah,
I
uh
I
I
Did
they
know
you
were
a
paper
crafter?
No,
no.
Um
I
I
I
remember
we
had
a
there's
always
a
cruise
book
at
the
end
of
a
deployment,
and
somebody
has
to
put
together
the
cruise
book.
And
again,
in
the
early
days,
they
were
like,
oh,
look
at
you,
young
lady.
Clearly
you
must
have
these
attributes.
I
was
like,
please
don't
make
me
the
cruise
book
person,
please
don't
do
this
to
me.
I
think
I'm
not
the
person
to
collect
the
photos
or
write
the
capture,
like,
please
don't
do
that.
Oh
my
god.
It
was
the
worst,
it
was
the
worst
collateral
Women In The Military Myth Busting
SPEAKER_00
27:43
duty
ever.
SPEAKER_02
27:43
So
I
do
want
to
go
a
little
bit
deeper
into
being
a
woman,
and
you
mentioned
something
that
was
really
um
important
and
special.
It's
a
volunteer.
What
would
you
tell
a
young
woman
considering
military
service
today?
How
is
it
different
from
when
you
first
decided
that
you
were
going
to
join?
And
what
misconceptions
about
women
pursuing
military
careers
do
you
want
to
myth
bust?
SPEAKER_00
28:04
Great
questions.
I
think
joining
today
is
a
great
opportunity
to
figure
out
who
you
are
as
a
leader,
as
a
woman.
I
think
there
are
few
organizations
who
will
give
you
as
much
instant
credibility
and
authority
as
a
military
service
will
do.
Like
day
one,
you
have
responsibilities.
Day
one,
you
will
be
in
charge
of
people
that
may
or
you
may
or
may
not
be
qualified
to
be
doing,
but
that
they
will
be
like,
welcome,
welcome
to
serving.
Um
I
think
you
mentioned
a
part
at
the
end
that
question
because
it
was
long
and
I
wouldn't
have
to
be
a
good
idea.
Misconceptions,
myth
busting.
I
would
say
that
now
today
there's
so
many
ways
to
make
it
work
long
term.
When
I
first
started
in
the
Navy,
there
weren't
examples
of
women
with
children
that
did
what
I
did
for
a
living.
They
didn't
exist.
SPEAKER_02
29:03
There
was
like
one
woman
who,
by
the
way,
lives
lives
here
in
in
Jacksonville,
now
just
before
we
continue,
when
you
began,
so
this
is
like
2004.
This
is
in
the
2000s,
not
in
the
1911.
SPEAKER_00
29:17
Not
even
in
the
Oregon
Trail
era,
yes.
Um,
but
there
was
one
woman
who
did
the
job
that
I
would
do
as
a
surface
warfare
officer
who
had
kids,
Mary
Jackson.
Shout
out
to
Mary
Jackson.
Um
and
she
was
like,
I
just
said,
just
give
me
one
example
of
someone
who
makes
this
work.
And
now
there
are
so
many
more
examples
of
women
who
do
this
in
different
ways.
So
do
you
marry
another
military
member?
Sure.
Do
you
marry
a
civilian?
Sure.
Do
you
have
an
aw
pair,
a
nanny?
Do
you
have
help
from
your
family?
Because
they
move
where
you
are.
Do
you
do
there's
so
many
ways
to
make
staying
past
that
initial
five
years
worth
it?
Like
there's
so
many
ways
to
make
it
work
and
and
to
still
feel
like
you're
yourself
without
giving
up
your
femininity,
without
giving
any
anything.
SPEAKER_02
30:10
That's
unbelievable.
I
I
remember
hearing
you
mention
earlier
that
there
was
Mother's
Day
um
celebrations,
and
that
wasn't
something
that
you
entered
this
field
into.
It
was
something
that
evolved
along
your
journey.
SPEAKER_00
30:23
Yes,
yeah,
absolutely.
I
again
I
started,
there
were
six
women
on
a
ship
of
300,
um,
and
we
were
all
young,
so
none
of
us
were
mothers,
so
nobody
was
congratulating
anybody
on
on
Mother's
Day.
There
was
no
mothers
on
the
on
the
ship.
But
was
Father's
Day
a
big
deal?
Yeah,
Father's
Day,
definitely
a
big
deal.
Oh
my
gosh.
Yeah,
definitely
a
big
deal.
Okay.
Um
yeah,
people
would
come,
they
wanted
to
thank
all
the
dads.
Great,
good,
good
for
them.
Yeah,
and
you
were
thanking
dads
too,
because
you
have
a
dad.
So
yeah,
it
was
one
of
those.
But
it
changed
over
time.
It
changed.
Then
there
was
like
cake.
We
had
to,
I
mean,
I
I
love
any
celebration
on
the
ship
of
cakes.
Yeah,
I
know
you
do.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Thank
all,
thank
all
the
moms
doing
this.
So
it's
pretty
impressive
now.
SPEAKER_02
31:05
Let's
talk
about
people
who
are
preparing
to
retire
from
Retiring Well By Making New Friends
SPEAKER_02
31:08
service.
What
advice
would
you
give
someone
who
feels
maybe
excited
and
terrified
at
the
same
time?
SPEAKER_00
31:14
Uh,
you're
not
alone.
There
are
lots
of
people
in
your
community
uh
that
are
there
to
help.
So
get
really
good
at
making
new
friends.
I'll
say
number
one
thing
you
guys
gotta
do
when
you're
getting
out,
go
make
some
friends
where
you're
gonna
be.
So
if
you
are
gonna
retire
in
an
area,
you
need
to
be
a
part
of
that
community.
I
don't
care
if
it's
because
you
want
to
join
your
local
kickball
team,
you
want
to
support
the
arts,
you
want
to
uh
help
with
uh
the
leadership
of
the
city,
whatever
it
is,
find
a
place
in
your
city
and
make
friends
who
are
not
in
the
service.
Go
find
some
normal
friends
because
it's
a
skill
that
you're
going
to
need.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
you
are
engaged
with
people
in
your
city
in
a
natural,
authentic
way,
and
you'll
be
amazed
at
how
that
can
start
as
a
seed
of
your
network
and
really
blossom
and
help
you
find
your
path.
SPEAKER_02
32:17
If
your
younger
self
met
you
today,
what
do
you
think
she
would
say?
I
think
you
need
to
start
walking
a
lot
more.
There's
no
physical
ones,
you've
been
a
civilian.
There's
no
shooting,
there's
no
nobody's
in
charge
of
anything.
SPEAKER_00
32:34
You
could
do
whatever
you
want
with
your
body.
I
think
she
would
be
really
excited
that
I
have
become
someone
who
has
found
roots.
So
younger
me
moved
around
a
lot.
I
mean,
my
parents
moved
us
around,
and
then
I
went
into
the
Navy,
which
moved
me
around.
And
I
never
thought
I
would
find
anywhere
where
I'd
want
to
stay.
I
don't
even
know
that
I
really
thought
about
husbands
or
kids.
I
just
was
like,
I'm
gonna
get
on
planes
all
my
life
and
just
zoom
out.
I
was
like
that,
and
just
zoom
around,
right?
Um,
so
I
think
she'd
be
really
impressed
that
I
found
someplace
with
roots.
SPEAKER_02
33:18
Well,
I'm
glad
that
you're
rooted
here
because
it
has
definitely
improved
my
life
and
the
lives
of
so
many
people
that
I
personally
know.
Is
it
Lightning Round And Leadership Truths
SPEAKER_02
33:26
okay
if
we
go
into
a
lightning
round?
Okay,
now
lightning
round,
yes.
Yes,
you're
gonna
um
say
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
your
mind.
Sure.
Leadership
book
or
leadership
podcast?
Podcast.
One
quality
every
leader
needs.
Trust.
Biggest
myth
about
military
life.
It's
too
hard.
Morning
person
or
night
owl?
Morning
person.
The
best
advice
you've
ever
received.
Always
ask
what
else
can
I
do?
Ooh,
I
love
that.
What
instantly
brings
you
peace?
My
son
hugging
me.
Finish
the
sentence.
My
next
chapter
is
still
to
be
written.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
today,
Alexa.
Oh,
I
love
this
so
much.
And
I
can't
wait
for
the
talk
show
to
launch.
Yeah,
absolutely.
I
mean,
who's
that?
We
we
need
to
make
that
happen.
We're
manifesting
it
right
now.
I've
got
a
sounds
person.
Yeah.
Today's
conversation
reminded
me
that
reinvention
isn't
really
about
becoming
someone
new,
it's
about
discovering
what
has
been
true
all
along.
We
spend
so
much
of
our
life
attaching
ourselves
to
titles:
executive
director,
commander,
teacher,
parent,
entrepreneur.
But
titles
are
chapters.
They're
chapters
of
a
story.
And
Alexa's
journey
reminds
us
that
leadership,
purpose,
and
passion
don't
retire.
Sometimes
the
outfit
changes.
Thank
God
she's
no
longer
in
that
jumpsuit
with
a
30-inch
zipper.
Maybe
the
office
changes
from
sea
to
land,
and
perhaps
the
mission
changes.
But
the
things
that
matter
most,
service,
courage,
curiosity,
and
impact,
those
travel
with
us.
Maybe
recalibration
isn't
losing
ourselves.
Maybe
it's
finally
giving
ourselves
permission
to
bring
every
version
of
who
we've
been
into
the
room.
And
maybe
the
question
isn't
what's
next.
Maybe
it's
what
have
I
been
preparing
for
all
along.
Honorable Mensch Mission United Spotlight
SPEAKER_02
35:17
And
now
it's
time
for
our
honorable
mention.
Mensch
is
the
Yiddish
word
for
someone
who
shows
up
with
integrity,
responsibility,
and
heart.
Today's
honorable
mensch
goes
to
Jonathan
Richmond.
There
are
some
people
whose
work
never
really
ends
when
they
leave
the
uniform
because
service
was
never
simply
a
job.
It
is
who
they
are.
Jonathan
Richmond,
director
of
Mission
United
at
the
United
Way
of
Northeast
Florida,
leads
efforts
that
support
veterans
and
their
families
as
they
navigate
everything
from
housing
and
employment
to
stability,
connection,
and
opportunity.
Mission
United
recognizes
that
supporting
veterans
is
not
a
moment
of
gratitude
once
a
year.
It's
an
ongoing
commitment
to
ensuring
the
people
who
served
our
country
are
also
seen,
supported,
and
empowered
when
they
come
home.
And
considering
today's
conversation
about
recalibration,
transition,
and
building
a
new
chapter
after
service,
Jonathan's
work
feels
especially
fitting
because
sometimes
the
mission
changes,
but
service
doesn't.
Jonathan
and
the
team
of
United
Way
are
making
sure
those
who
answered
the
call
for
our
country
continue
to
have
someone
answering
the
call
for
Share Follow And Sign Off
SPEAKER_02
36:19
them.
That
will
do
it
for
us
today.
Thank
you
for
joining
me
for
another
episode
of
Schmooz
with
Seuss.
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this
conversation
made
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