Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple O' Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey, and I am excited for today's episode because I love talking about God. It seems like when I'm on my own, and You know, it's still great stuff reading the Bible and talking to God, but when I can talk to other believers there's just an energy that starts forming when it's like, wow, you know, and in fact, I actually had a crazy awesome experience the other day.Shout out to Garrett. This guy came up to me at the bar, bought me a free shot, and he started crying, basically, when he found out I was Christian because he goes, there's not a lot of us left and it's hard to, you know, more than ever. And so it's, it's beautiful when you meet another believer and you actually feel it.So we are here with Dr. Sheila Jackson, who is not just a believer, but a teacher of the faith. And she is helping lives every day, you know, get closer to the Lord and understand his word, which, you know, can, it can be hard at first for a lot of people. So it's great to have someone there to help guide us and teach us and answer our questions.And her story is, is great because it talks about faith in a lot of different ways. Faith, not just religiously, but just in taking chances in life and believing God. So Ms. Jackson, would you please introduce yourself for us? Well, good afternoon. Uh, if you're in central standard time, um, my journey with the Lord, my serious commitment to the Lord began in my early 30s.Now, I've been a believer since, um, I was a young teenager, but I had no understanding. I truly was not a Of the Lord Jesus Christ, I knew of God, but I didn't have a relationship with the Lord. I didn't even know that that was a requirement. Right?I thought you go to church, you go to Sunday school, and that's pretty much it. And, um, In my early thirties, the Lord, I began to recognize the voice of God because I didn't even know that God And, um, you know, when the word says he will lead and guide us into truth, well, there's always an appointed time that God has for everyone.And this was my appointed time. I became connected with the ministry that they were teaching far beyond what I was used to teaching that God could speak to you. You could understand and hear the voice of God. That there was more to our Christian faith, and I developed a hunger for that. And I remember sitting in my living room and just meditating on what happened that day.We had an awesome, it was an awesome word, it was an awesome experience. I was Learning to yield myself into praise and worship instead of, uh, thinking it as entertainment, believing, no, this is how I connect with the Lord. And I heard the Lord say to me, I want more of you. You pay everyone that you owe on time.He said, I want you to pay me and I'm coming to collect. And I began to weep because. Even though I had never heard God's voice, I knew it was God, you know, and that's our spirit bearing witness. Those are all the little things that the Lord was teaching me along the way. And I began to tell the Lord, well, you know, I'm doing this and you know, my life is not really.And he said, don't worry about a thing. You keep coming to me, set aside time. Where, um, uh, not only you share, but now give me time to share with you, to talk to you. And that's what I did. And it began a lifelong commitment and journey of, of really developing a relationship. So my prayer life increased getting into the word instead of me waiting till I got to church and to be spoon fed.Now there was a hunger in me. Let me learn more about this God that I want to serve with my whole life. And, um, eventually God moved me into ministry. Um, I had, that was not my first choice,but it was something that the Lord and, you know, I was the kind of person once I made a commitment, that was it. If I make a commitment, I'm going to do it. And I didn't know that that was a character trait, faithfulness. I didn't understand it was a character trait that the Lord was building in me. Will you be faithful to me?Right. And um, that's, so that's how I pretty much began my journey. And you know, over time he kept requiring more.Right, but it's beautiful because we know that for everything he requires, you get paid back double. And that's not why we should do it, but it is a great benefit of it. Yes, it is. And, you know, we talked about your faithfulness and giving him more. Uh, I know from your bio that you were working at General Motors Service Parts for 15 years and then suddenly left.Can you tell us how did that tie into the, you know, giving more to God? He's coming to collect his payment. I mean, was that him speaking to you or something happened? I mean, how did that all unravel? It was My greatest leap of faith. Um, again, I didn't know, um, initially, but along the way, God kept Um, asking me to believe in him and trust in him.So the more word, um, that I put into my heart, the more I began to have a greater understanding of who, um, the Lord was, what this relationship was, what truly a discipleship, um, I was mature at this point and, um, the Lord began, uh, so. I left General Motors in 2000 officially, but I had a year with pay. Six years prior to that, the Lord, again, spoke to my heart.He said, this will be your last stop with General Motors. And because I was already fully persuaded, oh, okay. I, it didn't, you know, people would say, you don't walk away from all of this. But I was so. In love with God. I was so in love with God. And again, I was the kind of person, if I made a commitment to you, I was going to hold true to it.Now I had, you know, I would tell anyone I had visions of grandeur. I just thought, you know, uh, the world God was going to give me the world. And, um, so A year before, um, I was to lead General Motors. Our, um, um, GM was offering what we call a buyout, so anyone can take advantage. They pay you for a year insurance and, and, um, your salary.For one year, you would be on payroll. Before officially, the relationship was severed and, and so. Every time I would get comfortable in the perks of working for GM, the Lord would send someone to remind me, or he would come to remind me, I said, this is your last stop because I'm going to sleep. I lived a very good life.I lived a very good life. And that final year, I had been telling my peers, I'm leaving. This is my last stop. And it's like, Sheila,you're not gonna walk away from all of the director told us that this was the avenue. That, um, General Motors was going to use our director immediately said, but no one in purchasing and no one in engineer can partake of this. And I said, you know, it never dawned on me. The answer would be no. So that morning, I'm sitting in my cubicle and the presence of God got so strong on me.It unnerved me. I'm thinking, okay, what's going on, God? And you know, is there something wrong with my family, something wrong? And so under my breath, I just began to pray. I just began to pray. I didn't know what it was. It had no idea of the connection that this would be as I call D Day. And, um, so purchasing, uh, HR, comes and they said, we're having a meeting in the next hour.Everyone is to go to the conference room. And so as I'm walking to the conference room again, the presence of God gets stronger. It gets stronger. And now I'm really nervous. It's like, OK, what, what, what's going on, God? What again? I did not connect it. And as we sit down, HR gets up to explain that General Motors is offering a buyout, but purchasing cannot participate.And my peers, the one I had been bragging about, they turned their head and look at me like, uh, they're not letting you go. And I knew then the Lord was saying, you're leaving. You're leaving. This is it. And so after the meeting, uh, the Lord, I hear the Lord say, go to, go to a human resources and tell them that you want to participate.Immediately I go there and I tell them I would like to participate. The HR says, nope, your director said, no way, no one is leaving. And before I could catch myself, my spirit says, but the Lord says I'm leaving. I could not never would I have done that in my found a diplomatic way to say it, but the spirit of me spoke out before I could catch myself and she looks at me and you're like, Okay.And she says, well, talk to your director. And so I immediately go to my director, make an appointment with, and his secretary makes an appointment within the next hour. Um, they call me and I tell my director, I would like to participate. He says, Sheila, I'm not letting anyone go. I hear your story. Um, but I'm not letting anyone go out of purchasing.We're needed and I can't afford to let anyone again before I could catch myself. I said, but the Lord says I'm leaving and this is why I need to leave. And he gets this look on his face and again, I couldn't catch myself. And so he studied trying to convince me that he's not going to do it. The reasons behind it.And in mid sentence, he says, Okay, I'm gonna let you go. Mid sentence. And I, you know, that was my moment and again, that I knew to trust whatever the Lord was saying, trust him. So it was a huge leap of faith. Um, huge leap of faith. Again, I didn't, it was, it was becoming the norm. Do you trust God? Yes. I trust God.Then do what he said. Do you trust God? Yes. So he had been building my faith to trust him. All along the way, I didn't just take that moment all along the way he I was tested. You know, will I trust him? Will I obey? And it came down to that day. So that's how I walked away from General Motors after 15 years with General Motors.Yeah, so it was, um, it was an amazing journey. It really has been an amazing journey. Yeah, and I think, you know, it's so true that the more you trust God, you know, the easier it becomes. Although, they'll get bigger and bigger, these, uh, you know, these things you have to trust with. It's more intimidating, but you build up this, you know, this reservoir of God has done it before he'll do it again and I think so really that first step that first time you trust God is the most important one and You know you talk about leaving and going on this journey of faith And then how do you end up you know in the ministry and teaching from here you you leave your job and then it's a I guess more of God saying, you're going to go here and you're going to go there.And you're like, okay, Lord, I got you. Well, it, it was, there were, uh, moments. They were very daunting because again, I had visions of grandeur. You know, I, it never dawned on me that the Lord would ask me to walk away from a very lucrative job to now start over. I'm like. Yeah, no, God, we don't start. We don't.We've already done that. I already started at the bottom wrong. I'm already here. And, and in my mind I'm thinking, you know, I am spiritually matured and, and I can handle anything that comes my way. And the Lord began to share with me. He said, I, do you think that I asked you to walk away with GM so you could keep giving me the same thing that you were giving me before?He said you were working and you were working. Gave me an hour of prayer. Now you're not working and you still give me an hour of prayer. You were, you are working and you study for an hour. Now you're not working and you still think that that's sufficient. And the Lord said, no, no, no, no, no. It takes more for where you're going.And you know, I heard the Lord, but I'm thinking the arrogance. Uh, you know, there were days that I put in more time, but I'm thinking, you know, I still wanted, uh, I didn't realize how selfish I was. I didn't realize, um, how prideful I was, um, even that, that I didn't know how to give God my will, because. I wanted to make my own decisions.And the Lord said, you're good. As long as I'm asking of you, what you agree with is when I began to make demands that you don't agree with. Now the real you after time surfaces now, and that's what he was coming after. It's not what I could see is what I couldn't see. That was still there. That would be a hindrance.But anyways, so the Lord was using me in my local assembly. I was doing some traveling, but again, I was not submitting to our giving the Lord all that he required, you know, um, intentionally and consistency. And so because of that, and, and I had a spending habit. I was so used to, uh, spending. Living well.Yeah, I didn't think I had to give any of that up. And, and the Lord was trying to teach me a greater level of discipline. And I know I, I did, I didn't want to do all of that. And, and, and the Lord would say don't spin you don't need it. Don't don't buy that you don't need it and it was like god is on sale Right.Yeah. Yeah How am I gonna this is on sale and so I would justify Um my appetite I would justify that. Yeah Um, eventually, and in my mind, so my suppliers, I had suppliers that were contacting me and said, Hey, Sheila, we heard you left GM, if you want to come work for us. And so in my mind, I had a backup plan.I had a backup plan. I'm not, I'm not going to be without money now. I'm not going to be without the luxuries I'm used to. And the Lord was trying to see what are you willing to sacrifice? Right. I wasn't willing to say, I thought I've already sacrificed Jesus. So I didn't understand the depth of the sacrifice.Um, so I had to go through, um, years of loss. I lost a home. I lost two vehicles because I would not obey God. Not that it was God's way. God used that because those were the decisions I kept making, thinking I could change God's mind, also thinking that I can get another job anytime I want to. And the Lord's like, Yeah, no, I'm teaching you.Will you trust me? Will you trust me as the source? He said, you said you trusted me. He said, would you trust you? He said, you trust you. You gave me some credit. You were thinking, but you didn't really. Trust me to provide and he began to share with me, he said, these are basic things. You say I'm a good father, but you don't trust me to be a good father because you don't trust me to provide for you.And so these were huge lessons I had to learn. And I had to go through what I consider repeater courses. God never lets you just graduate because of time. We like been here a long time. Would you just like Yeah, no. 40 years.Yeah. But any, you know, so he continued to move me through the ranks in, in Christendom, but I was never obtaining, um, the visions. He would open doors, but never to the magnitude that he said, because I was the holdup. There were lessons and one of the things that the Lord, he said, I'll never let you teach what you won't walk through, you know, so I had to, I had to be the first partaker.I had to learn to allow the Holy Spirit, the great teacher, teach me and every time I fought, he would say, you won't let me teach you. How am I going to let you teach others? I'm thinking what?You think just because you know, scripture. No, no.Yeah. Requires some hands on experience for sure and it's important. I think it's important for people who have been through traumatic experiences especially if they found their faith or strengthen their faith through it to share their story just like you are doing now and You talked about you know, I saw a quote last night online, which is like, you know It's not that God doesn't want to open doors But he can't open the door if you're not ready to walk through to the other side, right?Whether that's you're still partaking in a type of sin, or you're not trusting enough. It could be either you're lacking a positive trait, or you're, you know, uh, have a negative trait that's driving too much, you know, so certain, there's certain requirements, and like you said, uh, God has blessings for us, and, uh, we shouldn't postpone them with our behavior, you know, the sooner the better.I know there's plenty of faith based people out there who have said, if only I had trusted God sooner, I could have been living like this, you know, for X, Y, Z amount of years. So that's, that's how I feel about my life as well. You know, there's, there's definitely a lot of blessings that were delayed. I'm very grateful for his mercy that he still gave them anyway, uh, albeit later.But yeah, that's, you know, that's why I mentioned 40 years earlier. It's like, do you think they were supposed to wander around the desert for 40 years? I don't think so. I think if they had Depending on their good behavior, they could have cut a lot of time off of that, but, um, yeah, so You know, you talk about teaching the faith.Tell us a little bit about your modern day life, how you're teaching the faith to people. What exactly does that look like? So, and, and it all started, um, the magnitude of teaching started in 2001. And um, you know, it's funny because I never wanted to be a teacher, never, ever. My friends with Joey's like, Nope, Nope, not me.And little did I know it is my passion today. Uh, it is my passion, so I have Amen. Um, what we call in Christian, um, profe a prophetic school. I teach people how to hear, um, the voice of the spirit of God and to be able to relay what they hear, whether it's to one person or to a group. Um, that school, I started off in a physical building, and even how God did that, I received a prophetic word.Um, prior to that, God had been giving me the courses that are a part. The biggest part of my ministry is called Wind Spirit and Soul, Prophetic School. I teach character. I teach character because that's what the Lord was teaching me along. This is the most important, not the gift. You think that the gift overrides, and I'm trying to teach to the most important is the image.I need you to display the image of me and under getting people to understand. How important, how are they're going to know a reality of me? If your character is not what's most important, you know, and, uh, and so I started that, um, God began to send me students, open up the doors and I did that until 2014, um, I went back to get my, um, doctoral degree and I could not do it.I, I could not, it was. Huge learning curve for me. And so I stopped until I finished my degree. And, um, then God began to connect me in international ministry. Uh, he opened doors in, uh, Nigeria, Abuja, Nigeria, and Jos, Nigeria. I have an online prophetic school that I teach in Africa. I love it. Um, and, and that's what I teach.Yeah. My curriculum is a 12 week curriculum, but the bulk of the courses are on character and how it influences just like the name, the wind, the sea. Spirit of God, um, spirit, the spirit of us. And so how they all interact, how they aid and how they, um, the work of the spirit of God, the work of our spirit and how our soul can derail us.How our soul can derail us. Um, so I've been doing that. Um, 2006 almost over 15 years, almost 20 years, 20 years of teaching all over. Cause I teach a variety of subjects, but the most of what I do teach is character teaching, um, the, the character of God. Yeah, no, that's amazing. I think that's an important and I think a lot of people have difficulty.Hearing the voice of God and a lot of people have the desire to hear the voice of God you know, I think a lot of us would love for for that gift and to You know understand it and it comes in many forms and in many different ways and oftentimes Yeah, almost 100 percent of the time not the way we want it, you know, never the way we want it But yeah, I think that's great.And so I love For you to teach us a little bit right now with a Bible quote, uh, that you would like to share with us before we wrap up this episode. If you had to leave us with one quote, which one would you choose? Um, The first quote is Jeremiah 29 and 11. Let me get that right. Yes, I have shared that on the show many times.I love that. I believe it is the same one. For I know the thoughts and plans. 29 and 11. And for I know the thoughts that I think towards you saith the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil to give you and expect it in. Um, I love that because any time that we are, um, uncertain of our journey, uh, with the Lord, uh, it's trusting him that he knows and he's guiding us.You know, so that's the reassurance for me. The second one is, um, John, John 14, make suretalking about the love of God, the love, no greater love. John 15 and 15, no greater love than this, that a man would lay down his life, man that would lay down. And that's what God does for us. That's what he did for us. There's no greater love and that there's nothing that he won't do for those that he loves.Nothing for every son, every daughter, you know, every time the enemy tries to tell us that God has forgotten us, that it's not going to happen. It's reminding ourself. There's no greater. He's already proven. He loves. He was willing to give his life, you know, so those two scriptures, Jeremiah 29 and 11 and John 15 and 13, no greater love, no greater love than this.Yeah. Uh, yeah, that's one of my favorites. I quote it all the time. I love that, that verse. And I, I think also, I mean, the book of Jeremiah is one of my favorites. I was actually thinking of a different quote I usually quote, which now I gotta, I gotta look it up cause I want to get the number now. But it's Jeremiah, and I've shared it before on the show.It's Jeremiah 10 23 which is Lord, I know that people's lives are not their own It is not for them to direct their steps and a lot of people get scared when they hear that quote They think oh God is controlling everything we do and it's not necessarily what that means. And I think dr Sheila you're a great example of You know Your life not being what you thought it was gonna be you had these visions of grandeur and then God took you and He directed your steps in different directions and um, you know, God can direct us a lot But it's up to us to actually follow those directions.So ladies and gentlemen, make sure that you are Communicating with God like Dr. Shears said it said in the beginning a lot of people don't think of relationship with God as required Just know the word go to church But the most important thing is having a relationship with God and everything else will follow So, um So, yeah, ladies and gentlemen, be sure to work on that.But Dr. Sheila, thank you so much for coming on the show. And ladies and gentlemen, her information will be in the description below. If you want to reach out to her for whatever it may be, we're going to have that information available for y'all to reach out to her. But again, Dr. Sheila, thank you so much for coming on the show.I appreciate having you. Thank you. Thank you so much, Mr. Whiskey. Thank you for having me. Um, like you said, when believers come together, the synergy that comes and, you know, um, when we, when we both know we serve a good father, a good father, he's a good father. Yeah. Even in our worst of days, the goodness of him.Yes. It's with us. Yeah. I agree. Thank you. Thank you.
