Now, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple of Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey, and today I am here with James Gcio, former Marine, and he's here to spread with us some wisdom, some spiritual awakening, talk about some of the things, the trials and adversity he went through during his time serving as well as afterward.
So without further ado, Mr. Gcio, go ahead and please introduce yourself for us. Good afternoon. Thanks for having me. You know, I don't think I even, what's your first name? Uh, it's just Mr. Whiskey. That's my, that's my podcast name, my stage name, but you can find me located and listed as Mark Whiskey on Facebook.
The funny story with that was Facebook would not accept Mr. Whiskey as a real name, nor would it accept, uh, whiskey as a last name in general. So I've got whiskey with an A on my Facebook, but LinkedIn took Mr. Whiskey, zoom, everything else. So, you know, but I, I make sure that's known to everyone, that Mark Whiskey and Mr.
Whiskey are the same guy. And the reason for the name is actually, you know, I had started this when I was active duty, and as you'll see, if you listen to my episodes. Anyone who's still active duty, they use a code name. Even some people who are veterans get out and it's not, you know, we're not doing anything bad.
We're not afraid of anything. I get you. I have one too. You know what I mean? Right. It's actually, it's Ken Shara. Like my, that's my, that's my soul identity, what I like to say. So like, is that in reference to the, uh, rah, you know, the Egyptian sung God at all? Or is that totally different? No, it's the same.
No. So Rah the sun, the actual sung God rah is not, is a different entity. Rah is, is, is a, is a social memory complex, you know, so if you're familiar with the law of one, which is a spiritual, um, it's a channeling actually from like the, a you know, the early eighties, one of the foundational kind of new age spiritual texts really Now, you know, so it's, um.
There's, there's an energy that, uh, if this is actually like a very, very long explanation, you know, you're the first person that's asked me. So like, this is a huge involved discussion on, uh, like the law of one and all, and all of this. But r is so, so rah, the sun, god, rah, this entity is the entity that they influenced these handed down teachings to what ultimately became the elite of the ancient Egyptian spiritual kind of sect.
Right? So like it, the story goes that, that there was, and I don't know if this is getting off, I mean, this is a very, this is very not related to like me being a veteran or anything, but if, if you wanna hear the story, I'll tell it, but I don't wanna launch into like this huge thing unless this is something that, that, you know, you're receptive to, right?
So. What we'll do is let's backtrack a little bit and get into your service and everything you went through and then when we get to how you discovered yourself afterward, it's definitely something I wanna get, uh, discussing because it's definitely something I'm not very aware of or familiar with, and I think that's lot of people in the audience that's into what I pretty much probably would end up channeling to you.
Like, so it's, it's not gonna be short, concise answer. That's a very complicated Right. So let's start with why you joined the Marines. You know, what if it was your choice or something that was inherited through your family when you joined? My father was a Marine in, in Vietnam, uh, bronze Star. He two purple hearts.
So he got shot, like, he got shot nine times, nine Boo nine wounds. And so I grew up, that was always just kind of what I was gonna do. And I remember the, the emblem hanging on my wall, like as a very young kid, 3, 4, 2, 3, 4 years old. And I just loved the way that it looked like. It's just real interesting, you know, there was a, there was a bias there, so it was always something that I was gonna do.
So I joined right outta high school. I joined in 99. That's, I was 18 years old. I turned 19 in bootcamp. So I, and I actually, because I was going into the military, I fucked off school, you know, so like they, I was in summer school every year and, um, they, they walked, I had a walk. I was at, I was allowed to walk at the graduation ceremony, but I hadn't, uh, completed the.
Requirements. So they actually had an empty diploma. They sent me my diploma when I was in bootcamp. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. So, so like, I was just wild, you know? I was smoking weed and, and fighting and just doing, I was a wise ass and I wasn't a criminal, you know what I mean? Right. Like I did, you know, I did stuff, but I wasn't a bad person.
And this is why I was arrested I think, nine times before I was 18. Oh wow. Right. I gave, I took me two waivers. I had to get two waivers to join the Marine Corps and I failed the initial piss test for weed. Right. So, like it was, and they, like a lot of it was local, you know, like my father, you know, they were doing it.
I think just, you know, I don't know actually, I don't know who approved those waivers and what social circles they ran in, but like there was kind of just a way paved for me to go in. So then I joined and. Like, it wasn't like, like I was like, I was Modo man, you know, because I grew up and this was always gonna what I was gonna do.
And in my mind, the Marines were the absolute best in the world. You know what I'm saying? And like, this wasn't a game. Right. Serious shit. And like, you know, so I fucking acted like it, dude. And I, and I, the Marine Corps fucking loved me, you know what I mean? I picked up Sergeant in less than three years, two years, eight months.
I won Sergeant on the MU board, which is like, I beat out like 3000 Marines for the rank of Sergeant. I, I like my cutting score from my job. My MOS was very, very low 'cause it was so few of us. So I picked up corporal like in under two years. I was an NCO, but I was fucking good at this is like, I was smart.
See like I was, and I could, and I was a stud and like. I was tough, you know what I'm saying? Like, so they like motherfuckers. Some dudes absolutely hated me. I was just the fucking best, honestly. Like, like I was the, I was shit hot. I was born to be a Marine, you know what I'm saying? And like everybody around me knew it, you know?
I was good. I was good. Plus like, I was good at my job and I'm confident about saying shit like this because I can back it up. And I've got, you know, like I was a, I was the like leadership court. I went to corporal's leadership course and I was the honor graduate. And that's like a really big deal. Marine Corps leadership course, like kind of the basic, the foundational one.
And, and then we went to war, bro. So I, so like I joined in nine, nine, it was peace time, right? And there was no war happened. And then September 11th fucking happened and we were gone. I didn't come back for two years. Like, so I went to, um, in January of oh two, I got back from Christmas leave and I didn't even get my key in the door.
And the duty is like, we, Sergeant sio, were like, we're leaving. I was like, what are you talking about? Like, I, you know, he was like, we're going, you know, we, we didn't tell us where we were going yet, but we all knew it was gonna be over to Iraq. And this was in, this was in, so we left in January of, of uh, 2000.
No, fuck yes. I got to Kuwait in February of oh three, but I was on a six month float to Afghanistan in January of 2002. So like, that must have been that 2002. So I got back from leave. That's what ha. And we were, and we were go, oh shit, that's two separate. So I'm confusing these two times. We floated for September 11th, it was a scheduled deployment, but we replaced the first troops that were in, into Afghanistan from the Roosevelt.
So, uh, we, that's when we sat off the coast of Pakistan and we raided commercial shipping with seals coming, uh, trying to sneak out of Pakistan in containers, shipping containers. So like the Marines would fucking set a, a floating cordon around these container ships and the seals would go in and fast rope in and clear the ship, and then we'd go home.
So I did that for six months. Then we came back four months later. I ended up invading going to the, going to Iraq a month before the invasion started. Then I was with the first troops in across the border, like on the 19th, and then we fought in Nazarea on the 23rd, and it was the, it's to this day still, I think the largest single day loss of life in combat since Vietnam.
There's been, there's been accident and stuff has happened where more people have died. I'm pretty sure, and I don't look this up often, but like at, at one point it definitely was the largest loss of life in a single day since Vietnam. And so like the, you hear about, you don't hear about Nazarea, right?
Like we, we, we lost my task. Force lost I think 32, got 32 Marines in that first two weeks for the Battle of Nazarea. Right, right. Uh, I'm thinking about all this crap at once and it's kind of crazy. But, um, alright. Where was I? So if I'm tracking correctly, you were sent, you and your fellow marines were sent to Cap a city, is that correct?
Nazarea? Right. So this is, so like, there's an airfield outside of Nazarea that was very important. Every, basically everybody that went to Baghdad that didn't go west of the eu, west around the Euphrates, it had to cross everybody that crossed the Euphrates crossed bridges that we secured in Nazarea cost and it at a heavy cost.
So it like that first day. We lost 23 guys, 19 from the same company. Charlie Company, first Battalion, second Marines. That was my, my forward observer was killed. So I was a, I controlled howitzers, so I was an FDC guy for an artillery battery. So I controlled six guns. We rolled into Nazarea and laid waste to that city for two weeks straight with the civilians population in place.
'cause this is what I was gonna say about Fallujah and Ramadi, like you hear about these cities because they spent weeks clearing the civilians outta there before we went in and in Nazarea that didn't happen. We went in and the fucking Fein militia was holding the civilians in the city and making the men go out and fight.
And then it wasn't until like the third or fourth day when all the people started leaving, they were walking. I. And we ended up, you know, yeah. I mean, it was fucked up. What happened in Nazare? Dude, we, we, you know, like, and I don't know, you know, this changed the course of my life. The, the sheer amount of casualties that we took on that first day, it was total war, bro.
They, they had tanks, they had artillery, they had every kind of fucking small arm you could think of, you know what I'm saying? And, and like, if you've ever seen saving private Ryan, like the first thing that they do when they hit the beaches, they go after the artillery, take the artillery out, and that's what fucking happened, right?
Motherfucker sent tanks after us. I've gotten shot at, with every single kind of small arm you could think of everyone now. Like we broke the back of the army relatively quick. You know, in the first couple of days in Nazarea, we, and it was a couple of division that we literally destroyed the place and killed everybody.
They sent a brigade of Republican Guard troops down from Baghdad, and we caught them at the train station with their pants down and, and. Shot shot 180 rounds of, of dual of D-P-I-C-M at these guys in the train stick. 2000. I think the, the, the description for the mission was 2000 troops in the open and we had this all documented, you know what I mean?
Like it, so we, and I talked to one of the, uh, guys that gave the battle damage assessment afterwards. He was a pilot. He said he couldn't even see the ground. It was just looked like crushed tomatoes. Wow.
Yeah. So would you say this is kind of, you know, these events that happened here kind of suddenly broke your hoorah, you know, Marine spirit? Yes. Suddenly, no. No. It took years. Took 13 years, bro. Took 13 years before I even started. So, so like that all happened, you know what I'm saying? We shot a, we shot a diversion mission for Jessica Lynch.
Like we worked with special forces and shot artillery for when they went in and for the mission where they went and rescued her. Uh, so like when we got a presidential unit citation, it was significant, significant in the history of American military stuff. You know what I'm saying? This is, you'll find this, right.
So when I, I had been extended for that deployment by like, they had to extend my contract by a few months, like three or four. Uh, so I could go. So when I got back, we, they cycled us out of Iraq. When I got back I was in heavy combat, like, and then 90 days later I was a full-time student working for a plumber as a civilian.
Wow. Just a, yeah. And then I went, so the only thing that we did right was fill out a bubble questionnaire. 'cause we took a shit back, took 30 days. So they gave us a questionnaire that we filled out on the way back. Thank God they did that because like I was having PTSD symptoms on that boat ride back.
That's when it, I, that's like, it just, you know, it starts when you don't ever really leave, you know what I'm saying? Right. Like, like it, it stays with you. And so, and so I carried that with me for 13 years through college. I graduated with honors. I was a president of a very big fraternity at a very big school.
Like, you know, like, uh, then I worked on Wall Street for, until for four years. And so, um, when I was in college, I got falsely accused of rape. And was arrested for rape and then charges all got dropped and like the lawyer gave us back the money and we didn't, he didn't even cash the check that we gave him 'cause it was all such bullshit.
But as a result of that, so I was getting recruited by the CIA coming out of the Marine Corps, and I was getting recruited by these agencies. The only reason why I got out was because they wanted me to reenlist in my old MOS And I knew if I did, I didn't wanna do that. I wasn't gonna go back to war as an artillery man.
And recon had been coming after me, and I had been talking to them for a while and I didn't let move right into them because like the unit was fucked up in Iraq. Like they were behind us. They, like, one guy lost a rifle and like they were all, they stole a door that had someone else's unit on it. It was all, you know.
So I didn't fuck with recon. I tried to go to Hawaii to get on with them. So anyway, it didn't happen. Uh, so as a result of that charge, I couldn't all of these three letter agencies that were recruiting me outta the Marine Corps and outta college. Like, 'cause I was a political science, international relations major, bro.
Middle Eastern studies minor. Like I was, I had a two year, um, like, like worked for two years at, for as a special assistant to some guy in the Tajikistan embassy. I was fucking, I had life by the balls. Then this rape thing happens and, and I can't get a job at any of these fucking agencies. My, you know, everything is s sued.
Right, right. So, I mean, you know, so I called the fucking to get a, the case record 'cause I was gonna sue the state of Massachusetts. And when I called to get the case file, the guy who picked up the phone was a detective. He goes, I remember you. He goes, you need to get this expunged. I said, that's exactly what the fuck I'm trying to do, man.
Right. So, so anyway, you know, no lawyers would touch it. It was just, you know, it was disgusting. Touch the, the expungement and if they weren't gonna try, they were gonna charge me like 20 grand. And I'm like, fuck you. You know? Right. So anyway, so I worked, so it took 13 years. So, so I did all of this and I was on the board of charities.
I was like, I was, I was volunteering, I was legislative director for the VFW, you know, I was doing shit. I was in grad, dropped outta three different grad school programs, three different fucking subjects, like, so my mother was starting to get sick. I was, and I got, I was fucked up, like, so I started, so I went to the va, you know, they, they were giving me pills and I was on the whole, did the whole pill thing.
Got hooked on the pills for like a good part of my life, dude, like probably 10 years. So until, and then 2016, I fucking detoxed myself from all the pills and put myself like, VA had a inpatient PTSD program in Coatesville, Pennsylvania that saved my life. I was, had been like seeing I, something, I had an incident with my mother who was, who was increasing, get, becoming increasingly sick.
And she attacked me one day with scissors. And as a result, because I was trying to get rid of the painkillers that she and I were both hooked on. So, you know, fucking I, at that day, I called this guy. So I had been seeing this advertisement for a ranch in Tennessee and, uh, you know, veterans come and recover and all this shit.
This is 2016. So I called the guy and it turns out he was in Nazarea. He was in f fo. He and I had spoken to this motherfucker on the radio in combat. Oh wow. Like we remember about each other. Yeah, dude, his pale Horse six one was his call sign, dude. So we remembered. So we became good friends. So he is like, you gotta come down here.
So I go down there that night I packed up my dog. I go to Tennessee, 12 hour drive. I get there. He's like, bro, he was on the bridge. He was, he was like, with the unit that got really fucked up. Oh, okay. And so he was like, I, you know, and he was a mess too. But he had gotten treatment. And then at the inpatient treatment, he goes, and at to that, up to that point, I had sworn the VA off.
I said, fuck them, I'm not doing anything. You know that I'll never let them, you know, 'cause they fucked my, my stuff all, you know, they messed everything all up. They, they, they didn't know how to handle me. I was one of the first guys probably through that system, as that was a heavy combat vet from Iraq.
So, like, when I got so early, I went through so early and were telling these people that they thought I was lying. They like treated me like a fucking liar. I get what you're saying, dude. It killed me. Like, like, like it killed me, you know? So, and even now, I still get, you know, I. Is an ama. My life has just been a, A series of amazing.
Is amazing. It's amazing. And like people are like, like who? Fuck. You know, like, what are you? I'm like, I, you know, like this is just how it is. Shit. Right. So just backtracking a little bit, I know we talked about all that combat you saw. Mm-hmm. While you were stationed over there and you said you were shot at with a lot of different types of weapons.
Were you ever physically injured? Were you ever injured or you managed to survive all of that and not get hit? Well, I survived it. I didn't get hit. No one in my, no one on my team got hit. We all, we all like, we had some close calls, but we all made it out. Thank God we had a real bad hum dee accident too.
That was like crazy. But no, no one got hurt, thank God. All right, so then essentially from there you went through all kinds of different schooling. You had some setbacks. Then you ended up arriving in Tennessee with someone who happened to serve where you serve. So, small world. Very small world. Yeah. I mean that's unbelievable.
So now that you got to Tennessee from there, what kind of happens? Okay, so I was talking to him, strategizing what I was, I had went down there trying to get help. So the first thing we did was I had to come off of all this medicine. So I just stopped taking it and it was like miserable, you know, I was, my body was almost died.
I went to the VA actually, 'cause I thought I was having a heart attack. And the nurse is like, I'm not gonna tell you. She's like, she's like, I'm gonna tell you something, but if you tell anybody else, he's like, I'm just gonna deny it. He's like, you're one crazy son of a bitch for coming off all this shit at the same time.
Right, right. So, so as this is happening, I'm ha I have, I'm, I'm rein, I'm reintegrating with the va and I'm going to get, I'm going, I'm scheduling appointments to, I needed to talk to like a caseworker and, and a doctor. And, um, I was there one night. No, I was there one day. The day, I think it was the day, I think it was the day that, that the nurse told me that.
And I was looking for the OEF, oif F office, I think. So Frank had convinced me to go to inpatient at the va. And so I was, I, I had gone to the VA to talk to them about getting into this program and I couldn't find, like, I was walking around the floor and there was nobody there. And then I, this, I couldn't find the office.
So this old lady, this lady says to me, she goes, um. You know, can I help you? I was like, yeah, I'm looking for the O-E-F-O-I-F office. Like I have to talk to this. She's like, well, I'm the director, but if like, uh, you can go meet with somebody else or come, you can wait in my office or something. So I, she was the director of the program there at that va.
So I had opened up, she opened up the door. I took one step into the office and I broke down, like crying right then and there because I had like the, it's a whole combination of things, but like, this wasn't anything that I had ever kind of externalized. So I just basically, so I started crying. I told her all of this at basically what I just told you at the same, you know, right.
Right there on the floor. And she fucking sprt some other chick in, and like I, they sat me down an hour later she come, she comes out and she goes. So we got you a spot in Coatesville. It's gonna take two, you know, they're gonna call you in about two weeks or whatever. And this was right around Easter. I was gonna go onto the Appalachian Trail.
I was gonna hike the Appalachian Trail solo. Right. I came off the trail to go into the hospital. They called me two weeks later back in New Jersey. And, uh, I went into that program. There was a long wait, I think it was a two or three year wait at the time to get it in. But they sh they did all the paperwork, they took care of everything.
Got me right in two weeks. Right. It's been five months there. What exactly is this program supposed to be? It's Trauma Pro, basically it's, it's like, it's a residential peak, post-traumatic stress disorder program. Okay. Right. So like it's not a drug program. They, they have a drug program that's separate that most guys go through.
Right. And like, I didn't have to go through that for some reason. I. They didn't think it was important, but these were like, but I ended up becoming addicted to drugs later. Like I smoked crack for like a year in a hardcore way, and I ended up going to to rehab for that. But, uh, at the time they didn't think I needed drug treatment.
So it's typically a three month program, this post-traumatic stress disorder. Um, I was there I think for four, and then they, I went back for another month, I wanna say in 2018. Spent another month there. So it's basically, you know, it's like, it's a safe environment man. It's a safe environment where you can figure out what's happening around, you know, because you get into, when you, when you know guys that are coming are in this, right?
'cause you're in this, especially when you have a. All the, it usually starts with like all the VA medication, right? And then there's a lot of these guys end up doing really hard drugs in really risky ways because they're fucking vets. You know what I'm saying? And like right. They're not native shit. So, so like, these guys, similar to these heartbreaking stories.
Uh, and when you're in this, you don't think anything is wrong with you. You think the world, you know, like, you either think you have it controlled or you think the world is just crazy, you know? And then there's, there's a lot of pain that, that you have to go through before you get to the point where you submit completely to whatever forces you can, you know what I'm saying?
And you decide to stop making choices that harm yourself and start making better choices. You know what I'm saying? Until that happens. You're like, you know, these guys are, you're pounding yourself into the ground in multiple ways. And, and because we're tough, it usually takes a really long time, a really, a really like large amount of pain before you're like, okay, fuck I, something needs to change.
You know what I'm saying? Like, I was gonna die on my couch alone with my pants around my ankles. I knew that. And so, like, I had, you know, I was hurting people around me. The dog was depressed is really what, what, you know, like, yeah. And, you know, so I was dangerous and I didn't know really. I didn't have a kind of, I was just bouncing around and like, there any, any moral authority that I used to, that I had respected at one point had become hypocritical to me.
So all the, all the places that I went, whether it was the government or the va, or a doctor, or even family. They all kind of let me down in terms of the way that they were handling me, because I could see, you know, like I, I could, I knew I was a problem, but like, I could talk people, I could outtalk people and like that got me out of a lot of shit.
But like, it, it cost me because people that don't have this kind of, you know, you know, dude, like, do you have any idea in my growing in, in my town, like growing up where I grew up, how much trouble I got in that, that they let me go? Right? Like, I should be in prison, you know, like I got caught. I should have got, I got caught driving drunk one night when I, when I quit.
So I quit working on Wall Street in 2011. I didn't know, I wasn't relating with the people around me. They were all motivated by money. I mean, I worked on actual Wall Street in Manhattan. And so I was, I started isolating and abusing the like Ritalin that they gave me and that fucked me because then I got hooked on.
Yeah. It was a whole, you know, so just to backtrack a little bit, if you can, if you can discuss it, you know, safely and all of that, bro, you're PTSD that you were experiencing, that you needed all this medication for, what exactly were your symptoms? What was bothering? Was it that you were just had flashbacks to the day?
Like what kind of things were happening to you at all of it? All of it was happening like at different times, you know what I'm saying? Like Right. It really, and like, but it wasn't so, like, I wasn't,
I didn't believe that I was traumatized by all of this shit that happened overseas. Right. And like, I didn't think that it was possible. You know what I'm saying? But like, it was really fucking, I was fucked up. And like, I remember one night I, I like, it was like two or three in the morning and I fucking heard a firework outside and I went to look out the window.
So I ended up thinking that I grabbed this fucking knife that I have, like hid behind, turned all the lights out and was hiding behind this wall, waiting for someone to come through my door. And I, and like, and it was like mechanical. And as it was happening in my mind I'm like, this is fucked up. Like this is, you know, like it, but I just rem I remember the, the chemi, I remember the like, like the chemicals was a defensive instinct.
Yes. Right. So, but I remember the chemicals going into my stomach, like I could feel. My stomach, I could feel the acids and shit like going to my stomach to, to get, really what it does is it digests food that you have. There's an instant when adrenaline hits you like that, and there's like an instant release of some kind of hormone or chemical that interacts with what's in your gut.
So it tries to dissolve whatever's in your gut so you can use it for energy in the fight that's about to come. You see what I'm saying? This is a physiological response, right? To stress. And I'm having this response and I'm in a completely irrational place and a safe place really technically, you know, obviously was the only one that was unsafe about it.
The place was me, you know? Um, and so like, and so I, I, I, I remember feeling that and I'm like, and I'm like, okay, well that actually just happened, you know? I felt stupid. I'm like, holy fuck. And this medication that the VA is giving you, I mean, how is that supposed to help? So this was in, it's not, it's not, so this was in like, like I said, they didn't know how to treat this shit then.
Exactly. This was like 2000, this when this happened was, must have been, it was like 2000 right before I went to the hospital. So 2015 ish maybe. And like, so since 2000 from like 2005 or oh six to that to 2015, I was getting, I had Adderall, Ritalin, Ambien, Xanax, antidepressants, all the controlled shit.
That's how they started treating us was all the, I could get whenever I wanted, dude. You know what I mean? And then eventually what led to kind of somebody realized that they were fucking us up. And the problem is that, well, like, so like I went in to get a prescription filled and the doctor that looked at it was horrified that she cut everything off, like with no fucking uh.
Warning or no taper or anything. She was, she thought she was gonna get in trouble because some other doctor prescribed me. Like, I think at that point I was up to 90 milligrams a day of, of Adderall and Xanax. Like four or five milligrams a day. Right? Because government's just pumping it in, you know what I'm saying?
Right. If I wanna go get more, and I'm not a doctor, but to be honest, you know, this is all psychological, mental health stuff. You know, these medications aren't gonna, it's come a long way. So like, it's still, yeah. So what's missing in the VA system is this kind of spiritual approach and they don't know what the fuck they're doing and they don't know how to treat this.
And because the pharmaceutical companies are in bed with the government, they're using, you know, like what they, they can get away with giving us pills and saying that they've done their part and then they just lock you up. Right. Like it gets to a point like when you just cause enough of a scene, they literally will just lock you up.
Like that's how the world deals with a veteran. Who can't control himself, they will lock you up in fucking jail. Like you will lose everything. The world does not give a fuck. Like, when I realized that, I was like, oh. I was like, okay. So that was a whole nother game, you know what I mean? Right. And what people don't understand is, you know, I'll give my perspective on it.
War and the weapons we use, they're not natural. You know, human beings, none of it. No. That was the first, none of that was made. Right. And whether you're religious or scientific, none of it is from nature. And so you had to think the effects it has on us are unnatural. So there's not gonna be a medicine, you know, to, to treat this because this isn't something that was meant to be treated in the first place.
No, no, no. Right. And, and the pro and like, and, and in fact, society is just tripling down on it because they're just, you know, like this is, it's such a fucked up self propagating system that like. It's money. It's money is what it is. And like the government and the billionaires are getting rich off of each other, you know?
So like pretty much we're chattel right now, like we're just products, you know, like they're getting everything they can out of us financially, you know what I'm saying? And like this system is set up so it to, to allow, you know, if you go just like the military, you know, if you do what they want, what they say, and you keep your mouth shut, eventually someone will help you out and like you'll be let into the system, right?
But if you, like an increasing number of people are getting squeezed outta the system and disillusioned because the system is fucked up and because of this stuff, right? Because of the way that they're just now we're learning the hard way because the research is out there and people have been saying this for years, but like, the problem has to get bad enough for the government to, to for pe you know, for the government to have to publicly.
Recognize it because bro, the government is not fucking old granddad sitting in the corner. Like, these motherfuckers do not have your best interest at heart. And I fought for them and I did horrible things for them, you know what I'm saying? I know what they're willing to do to accomplish their goals.
And listen, I'm not anti-America. I am, I, you know, like the Constitution is one of the found, you know, is, is we need to be defending that at all costs. Right now, the system is, is really gotten out of control. And, you know, the Constitution unfortunately isn't able to contain that anymore. And it's like, you know, watching it get swept under the rug.
And it's sad, you know, because I, you know, I identified so much of my life with, with that and like my, so much of my identity was, was that, you know, and like, right. And it, and they fucking lied to me, dude. And they didn't give a fuck. Like when I was, you know, a mess, nobody gave a fuck. And I'd be, I just did what I was trying, you know, I didn't know what the fuck was happening either.
And I was trying to do my best and like, when you need help and people, like people just don't, this is this, you know, people will literally, or look for an excuse to turn their back. Like, I dunno where you're from, but like, what I experienced as a, as a drug addict and like at the bottom in the gutters, like, would shock anybody.
And just the way that people treat you, the difference between, and I walk around now and like. It's simply because I look, you know, like, I don't know what it's gotta be my appearance, I don't know what it is, right? But now I get respect, you know, people are usually, are kind of like mostly recognizing my manhood, right?
My, my soul's worth as a person, at least publicly. They're not trying to like take away from me or add to themselves at my expense. But when I, when I was a bum, the whole fucking world trying to take a piece of me and like that individuals feel strong when they see somebody weaker than them. And I know this because I remember in training looking at guys around me fucking falling apart and me being like, well, this isn't that bad.
And, and I remember how much stronger that made me in that moment. You know what I'm saying? Right. And the sad part is somebody who's getting crapped on, you know, at work and everywhere else, and they, and, and when they, when they have the chance to, and that like, this isn't everybody that does this. Right.
But we have a choice when we're faced with someone whose circumstances, you know, we can, we can, you know, I'm getting off topic here, but No, no, you're good. The way I was treated was really, you know, people, it, it was like, oh my God. Like this is the real, this is the real side of people. Right. You know what I'm saying?
And like, and to phrase it like this, when you were at your lowest and you needed the most help, that was when you were the most outcasted. The most judged. Absolutely. Yes. And it was things and, and you. What you, what you wanted is help. What you needed is help but people, you know how rather just that trauma, they bash you more down into the ground.
Dude, that trauma is, was so deep and so complex. That I had to change everything about the way I looked at the world in order to survive, right? I had to, everything had to change because it was all fucking wrong in each individual sector was its own kind of wrong. And the way that I was and trying to fit into this system the way that they were trying to tell me, you know?
Then you get to a certain point and nobody knows what the hell is happening, and that's where I was at, and like most guys who experienced that don't make it right. I, and I believe that I, you know, like I was, I have made it through this because I need to tell people about, about it, right? You know what I'm saying?
Like, this is a problem and this is the kind of energy that is, that is fucking the world up. Right. And like it all comes from an individual, you know, worth, you know, perspective. And if a balanced individual contributes to a balanced collective, then you can't have a balanced collective with unbalanced individuals.
And like, so we're trying to balance the collective by making laws and telling people that one person, you know, you're wrong and you're right. And fuck you. And, and like you die. You know what I'm saying? It's all wrong. It's just all wrong. Right. And if you don't mind me getting in some sentences here, you know, just talking about, I'm about va.
Oh, no, no, you're totally good. You're totally good. It's just, you had said some things that connected with me. Now we've had a guy on the podcast before we call him a homewrecker. He was a buddy of mine who served on the same ship as me. He got out about a month after me. We're both still in the process of talking with the va, trying to file for disability and.
It's not even about the money. We're actually pissed because we're not being helped at all. So, you know, I had a mental health evaluation scheduled that was supposed to be an hour and a half because the VA nowadays obviously is very different from when, you know, you were going through everything.
Nowadays they have two meetings, a physical appointment and a mental health appointment because there have been so many suicides, so much depression, you know, the, the drug addictions, all of that, you know, the va, it's become such an issue that the VA has to take some responsibility. Right. But I will say is, I mean it's still, uh, feels like the, they don't care.
Now, I'll put it like this, when I was in the military and home record agrees with this, and everyone I've ever been with and served with has said the same thing. Medical is unavailable. Their their hours are crap. When you actually go there, you wait in line for an hour or two hours and then they kind of turn you away.
It's always, they never wanna take responsibility 'cause they don't want to have to pay you for your injuries. This is, uh, like
the only reason why I'm cutting you off is because we can complain about this all day. And like everything that you're saying, I had the exact same issues and it's, and it's a system that's set up. You wanna know why? Because like, when we're out of combat and we're not an a government asset anymore, like they, the reality is nobody cares.
Right. And like, I had to learn that the hard way and like, that's why guys die. 'cause they, 'cause they, they either killed them. They, they're so angry. Like they've been cast out and like, and like, you know, and, and dude, like, and the guys that have been through the worst are the guy, they don't talk about it, right?
They'll just leave. They will not say shit. Like you, you get a room full of ts and the fucking people that aren't saying, the guys quiet guys in the corner, those motherfuckers seen some shit, right? Because in your mind, and nobody else can under ever understand it, so they don't even talk about it. So just to make sure I'm not misinterpreting, but on some level it feels like you're saying, and, and this is something Homer and I discussed recently actually, is it's getting to the point where we just have to accept the, the f you they're giving us.
And we just have to say all, we're not gonna get our money, we're not gonna get help from them. We have to take this into our own hands. No, no, that's what I'm doing. No. So, no, bro, you got it. So here's, here's like the system is you gotta fight for it. And that's what they want. They, they're, they're not just gonna give it to you.
Right. They're gonna make you fight for it. So don't give up until you get it. Like this is, this is, you just keep going. Just wait, wait them out. Like eventually you'll No, no. Like if you're talking about like a disability claim or something, like you wait them out, you keep reapplying, eventually you're gonna get it and they're gonna back that you.
Right. It's not right what they do. And I worked actually for the VFW as a legislative director and a lobbyist. Like, and this was the exact issues that we're talking about here. You know what I'm saying? Like Right. The reasons why it's not profitable, because they don't know the right way to treat vets.
And the way that they're treating them now is ma isn't working. And they can't admit that. Like, only, you know, like, 'cause now it's a bureaucracy and it's a system that's out at, again, it's out of control. Right. And so like, you know, I just wanna say we gotta take care of ourselves. Like I, you gotta learn how to do the how to, how to, how to take ownership of our shit.
Do it like men, like the way that the military teaches you how to do your laundry and shit, and there's guys like that, that like can't do anything and you're like, how the, where the hell did this kid grow up that he doesn't know how to tie his shoes? Type of thing. This is what we gotta do for our insides because they have, there is no framework, you know, that like the traditional therapy and these things, you know, they work to an extent, maybe for some people they work really well, right?
And they are, they do have their effectiveness. But what it's all lacking is like, it's just an individual, I think like balance and individual energetic balance. And it's like, it's being unafraid to love somebody despite their differences, despite their, their shortcomings. Because ultimately everyone has a shortcoming.
Everyone does. So if we expend our lives going, going, bouncing from person to person, you know, turning away from everyone who has a shortcoming, like everyone's gonna turn away from us. Because no one's perfect. And yet we can all still, you know, evolve spiritually and God still loves us all the same, even if we're not perfect.
So that means that you don't have to be perfect to be good. And if you don't have to be perfect to be good, like the only way to actually get along and evolve as a species is to tolerate other people's differences. And over time these differences, like the group will take care of whatever the emotional imbalance is in an individual because of something that happened when they were growing up, or a trauma.
Make it taken care of with love and affection. Doesn't matter how disruptive they are, how violent they are, you know what I mean? Like, so if obviously there's cases where you have to manage people in certain ways and like. I think in, in, in a new world force is not an option in dealing with anybody. So if somebody says they're dealing with something and they, and, and like they're lying about it, then you treat them.
You treat the lie, treat the, you know, treat them the way that they deserve to be treated just as a person. You know what I'm saying? And this way, uh, it ultimately will be able to, like, it'll smooth itself out. And then a thousand years down the road, we've got balanced people, balanced civilization, you know, like then good things can grow that will last for millennium into the future, millions of years into the future.
And that's how civilization like, like that's how we survive indefinitely. Right. And we integrate AI responsibly because we're balanced, right? And we're not using it for the wrong reasons. But this is gonna take time. It takes time tolerance and like, and we're not gonna get, you know, like we have to disagree and allow that space of disagreement without getting emotional about it, right?
Like it's gonna hurt us, but we need to learn how to balance those hurts 'cause we're gonna get hurt, right? We can't keep preventing other people from hurting us. Like you just have to learn how to, you have to get, you have to embrace the suck, man. You have to learn how to, how to, how to operate under these conditions.
Because it always, life is gonna be like this, you know what I'm saying? Train like you fight, right? Take a hit and keep going. Now, what I wanna ask you is, so you were struggling with the VA to get help, all of this. At what point did you have your spiritual awakening? What led you to that, to discovering that?
And how has it evolved from there? So, dude, so like, it's funny because on like three years ago I had been, I have always been kind of a weird spiritual kid. Like I had like fucking wizard collection when I was real young and like I have weird gifts and like, I was always really smart and shit. So, uh, so, so I had known about, I had been interested in spiritual stuff, but like I, and I grew up in a, a Catholic and I was a raised in the church and I was an altar boy, you know, and I always thought I was, I took mushrooms on Memorial Day.
I had a friend of mine who's a, since she's a shaman, she gave me these mushrooms and I had been getting these weird messages and dreams that saying you need to connect, and this was happening over years. I was getting this right and I was ignoring it. And then, and then like, so how I got down. To a lot happened after I got outta the hospital in 2016 to 2020, which when my mother passed away.
And then that's when I came to Florida from New Jersey and that's when I started healing really from all of this. So I, I was in, I was in an abusive family. My mother was really, really sick and addicted and, and, and, you know, I took care of, for the last few, last 10 years of her life were real miserable, you know, so like I had a lot of healing that I had to do.
So I came down to Florida and so I sat on the beach basically for like the first year I was here. And I, every day I go to the beach and watch the sunrise every single day. And I would sit in the chair for from 4:00 AM until 9:00 AM about, and I just sat there listening to music. If I was, I would smoke weed, I would get fucked up.
Whatever I had to do, I did right. So, so, and, and it just really what it allow, I mean, I, I don't drink, I wasn't drinking, I wasn't doing hard drugs, but I would smoke, smoke weed. Um, so that was just basically I gave myself the space. Now, now I'm really processing. I had been through the hospital and like they have all these tools that they teach you how to deal with all this stuff and it's basically a crash psychology degree, you know?
So I'd already known a lot and I had been like, been fucking with my myself spiritually, but, but it was one day. I just remember I was like, like I noticed that more people were becoming inclined to believe a lot of the spiritual stuff. And I noticed that, and I had always, I've always noticed trends like that.
So I was like, and for some reason that gave me. Like confidence to explore this stuff and just read it and look at it that I never had. 'cause I, I grew up and you didn't read or look at shit like this, you know? So like, I started looking at it. This is a really detailed kind of version, but, uh, to make a long story short, I, I had these mushrooms.
I, I took them on Memorial Day. I didn't know, I didn't have an intention. Like, I just wanted to connect and like, and I had an out-of-body experience and a Kundalini awakening. And, and it changed my life, like dramatically. And then I had mul and then I had another spiritual. And then, so like, so I, and, and after that I ended up addicted to crack for a year on the streets almost.
And like then, then I, and so like I did that and I knew that like, I had options still. So I, I remember going through this, this year period of time, knowing that it was necessary for me. I. To get this outta my system. And, and I was gonna go to rehab, and then I was gonna build my life off of the, off of the ashes that I see behind me.
And I fucking, so I, so I, I, and it, like, I didn't do it on purpose, but it happened, you know what I'm saying? Like, and, and like, I was a fucking hardcore addict for like a year. And then I went to rehab and like about few weeks after rehab, I had decided when I was in rehab, I was gonna speak, I was gonna do the, you know, like I was gonna admit that like I had these gifts that, that in this combination of gifts that I have and experiences that I have, and the only logical reason for me to be on this earth is to tell people about this, just talk about life and that they're, that they're valuable no matter what.
And then, uh, and then I had started reading the law of one and I had like a five to seven that remember was like probably more like a week, seven days of like in, in. Divine download of understanding about our emotions and ener, how they, they, the, the personal energetics of balancing ourselves. And like, I was gifted this understanding of this through the law of one and raw, which is really a complicated subject.
Like, and I don't want to go too deep into that because you have to have a good basis spiritual understanding to, to not take that the wrong way. And I don't really know your background right now, but, um, so with that, I started having memories of past lives. I remember two past lives I was, I've always been, I, I wore, I was, I've always been.
So I remember a Mayan priest and I remember a Hebrew scholar and then there's other lifetimes where I'm a soldier, but it thousands of them. On different planets all over the fucking place. So literally I been, you know, like, I don't know, you know, I've either cho in every incarnation I've had, I've chosen to either be a warrior or a priest.
And in this, in this life here, you know, that I think it's significant. The difference is that I'm not choosing a side anymore. I'm not gonna fight for anything except what? Except what is, right? What's now like love. This is like, now it's like, it's not about choosing a side and fighting against the darkness, or who's wrong, whoever's wrong.
It's about acceptance of, of everyone and everything, no matter what it's perceived, you know? Uh, imperfections are, and the only reason why I'm here is to tell people, you know, and, and use my experiences to get people to, to like, to realize how important it's to treat each other well. The stake, the, the, you know, humanity is literally at stake.
I mean, we're at a pivotal moment here. You know, like we're, we're like, our individual decisions on a minute to minute basis are gonna affect how the world, you know, what ends up shaking out. And people are, it's too easy nowadays to turn away from that. It's too easy to, to ignore it and think that it doesn't exist.
But you know what, like when you close your eyes for the last time, that's all you have. And you spend your life ignoring that. Like, you, you have a choice to do whatever you wanna do in this life. And, and you're still gonna be, you know, valuable regardless of, of what you do. Right? You're gonna learn a lot, okay, this is still gonna work out, but if, if you want to keep learning the same lessons and, and you know, like, shit, I lost what I was gonna say.
But anyway, it doesn't matter. I forget what I was, I lost it. It's gone. No, you're good. Uh, so my question, and this might end up being a very complicated answer, but. Do you like, identify as, is this a specific religion or this is, uh, not a religion, it's a concept. Like what exactly, how would you explain it?
I, well, so like, so spirituality, like it's, I was raised as a Catholic and like the way that I identified with God, my relationship with God was through Jesus Christ. Up until I had that awakening. And it's like, I walked away from the church actually when I was sick because I, 'cause I was, I was gonna go to hell, you know?
So I spent years per, you know, like I wasn't, but then I had a vision, like a couple, and this happened again within the last three years where I had a vision of Jesus touching me on the forehead with a glowing finger. And that sparked, re sparked my interest in the church. So I go back and, I mean, and Jesus as a frequency and as a person, I consider, I have myself a very close personal friendship with him.
And so a lot of my, I have an ancestor that was named, you know, there's a Catholic saint that's St. SIUs, uh, in a, where the, whether we're named after this guy or related to him, I don't know. But, um, there's roots in the church. So I don't, so like if, if, if I, depends on who I'm talking to. If I'm, if I'm talking to, to church people, I'm a Catholic, right?
That's how I will identify to them. And, and I'll talk about things that they know and understand and they won't hear any advanced, you know, uh, it's not like I'm gonna sit, you know, they are, everyone is where they're at on their journey. It doesn't matter what reli, what religion you are. If you're truly seeking God in earnest, you'll find him.
And there is some energetic truths that make the, that pave the road, right? Like the way we treat our body and how we think and, and what we eat and how we treat others, right? So like all of this has, you know, like what you input into the body is what you get out. You're at, you know, you like, so you have to watch what you're thinking, what you're eating, you know, what you're doing on a daily basis.
And like if you, you don't need to be a certain religion. There are people who have spiritually ascended in every religion, and Buddha is in Jesus and their Krishna. And these are not, this is real, you know, there is no one truth, but you need, but, but there are multiple universal truths and it's in, it's all about an individual.
So like, it's all about how you connect with God individually. It doesn't matter. You don't have to be in a certain organized framework to be saved. No, no, no. Anything other than. What you can already do right now has been installed and is artificial, and it is, is irrelevant. Now, you can use other systems to get to attain spiritual light and become spiritually enlightened.
But, but like it, but really, if you're fighting with your, there's an internal strife with your religion. It's not make, not doing you any good. Right? But this, there's a group of people, you know, like some people, they, they maybe everybody on earth does it. And we're constantly internally struggling with God.
Right? And the word Israeli means one who wrestles with God, right? You don't have to be Jewish or is, or from the nation of Israel. And it's to be one who rests with God. Well, God is not gonna come down and say, I'm gonna save all of you because you've been fucking reading the Bible. Know what I'm saying?
There? No. Like, that's not God. That's an alien maybe. Right? That's now, that's a separate conversation. Okay. And they due respect too. They all recognize Jesus' energy and this is all, you know, like, like these things we've been taught for a reason. You know what I mean? Like, whether there's an overarching guiding hand, you know, or not, aside from God is, is one thing.
You know, like that's, you know, but like every spiritual tradition has its place in evolution. So, so you can be of any faith you can, you can, you can connect with God any way that you want to. Really, literally any way now, now, like it's up to you whether you want to harm other people or not, right?
Generally it's frowned upon because nobody likes to be harmed, right? But like, even if you know like sister, like God, it's all the same. It's all the same. If you're connecting with God, you're doing okay. You know what I mean? There's, there's some ways to make it easier. There's ways to make it harder, but you don't, there is no one truth.
I That's why we have to, we have to all learn how to get along because there's, there's, there's, there's enlightened individuals in every religion, you know, across the world. And if you get those people in a room, everyone's getting along anyway. If you take away somebody, tell if you, you know, the only reason why we fight is 'cause someone's egging it on.
Right. I agree with that. Now, so obviously this could be a, a very detailed conversation. Obviously there's a lot to unfold here for those of us who wanna learn more. Uh, before we started recording you and I had a discussion about, you know, a website you've made and a goal that you might have in life.
Would you tell us a little bit about that, for those of us who wanna learn more? Yeah, so I'm, so, so, I, I'm gathering everyone who. Who's been called, right? If you feel you've been called, maybe you've been touched by Jesus with a glowing finger as well. If, if in some way you feel you've been called to serve others and help like kind of write this ship, then I will teach you how to be like a soldier of God, the new earth leadership academy.com.
And what this is gonna do is it's gonna give you tools to emotionally balance yourself and contribute to the greater good. And you're gonna learn about mysteries, you're gonna learn about sacred geometry, you're gonna learn about personal energetics and the chakras, and you're gonna learn what spirituality was to the ancients and, and how much work has been put into this over thousands of years.
And, and I'm gonna teach you exactly what we've all forgotten. So it's a relearning, right? In order to reach this new world, we have to create it, and it's not gonna be created by learning an, an external curriculum. We need to learn how to manage ourselves the way that God intended, for lack of a better phrase.
And that's actually, yeah, right? I gotta work on pitch. But, but, but it's something, but like, so I'm, so I want to, I'm basically training God's soldiers, dude. You know what I mean? Like, if, if I were to have the responsibility of training an army of people to change the world, this is what I would teach them, and that's what I'm doing.
All right. That's beautiful. If you wanna learn more, ladies and gentlemen, the link to that website will be in the description below for the podcast. You can go ahead to the website, you can sign up with your email as well as check out the social media for it. So if you wanna learn more, be sure to check that out in the link below, new earth leadership academy.com, new earth leadership academy.com.
All right, and Mr, I appreciate your time. Yeah, of course. I was gonna say, I think we've discussed quite a bit. Uh, I wanna say I'm glad that you were able to get, that you were able to help yourself essentially is, is the best way I would put it, honestly. But I'm glad that you were able to recover from some of the awful things you saw and experienced and you know, just the message to everyone out there.
You know, if you're struggling, we're not saying you're alone. You know, it's good to have a support system of, of family, of friends, of professionals, but definitely, even if you're not religious, you need to do a little self discovery. And we've talked a lot on the podcast about how. When you get outta the military, you also lose a lot of your purpose and identity and, you know, that's such a big factor in, in, in down spiraling.
And so it's really imperative that you rediscover yourself when you get out. And is that something you would agree with Mr. Gcio? Absolutely. Like this? Absolutely. So like I have a set of skills that I learned in the military and like, you know, it's interesting that you, you say that because I'm kind of taking, you got me thinking because it is, you know, there is definitely kind of a, you know, a military, a militaristic maybe, I don't know the right word.
I don't even wanna say combative, but I mean, you know, I'm using the skills that I learned in the military to organize people in a heartful way, you know? So, I mean, not, I'm a, so I'm Sergeant cio, that'll never change. I've accepted that about myself. You know what I mean? Like, I have experiences and knowledge that other people don't.
And if I'm not using those things, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, changing myself and I'm sure changing the world. And I've seen a lot, you know, I, I've caught on to a lot and I can help. And if I'm not doing that, I'm not, you know, if I'm here for a greater purpose, what greater purpose than this? You know? Right. If I, I can, you know, like this is, you know, because it, it, I needed to redirect all this to something big because I maxed out the Marine Corps and I quit Wall Street.
And, you know, these ponds were too small for me to swim in. And this was, and this is what the university gives me, you know, and I asked for a bigger pond and this is what I get. Right. And hopefully, you know how to swim pretty well. Well, you know, you're right. And that's, so, that's why I'm, you know, right.
And that's, you know, if I didn't have the confidence to swim in that water, I wouldn't be here, you know? But, you know, I'm, I'm unafraid to admit that, and a lot of people, I think this shocks a lot of people, you know, it's not, it's not arrogance, it's just truth. Right, right. Well, Mr. Gcio, I wanna thank you for coming on the show.
Before we close it up here, is there anything else, you know, really important, really crucial, that you want to put out there for us? Because if not, I feel like you've covered a lot. Like, like we said, we've covered a range, so, I mean, I, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, I thank you for listening everywhere. Of course.
You know? Right. Like I said, if you wanna learn more, obviously there is a lot more. I mean, I'm sure you could talk for hours about all this. It, I, it's all, it's all common, right? So the new, so I, Newark Leadership Acade is online. Go, go, sign up for my, for my email list. And, um. I'm working on the actual course content now, so I've got a 12 course curriculum that I've designed that, that I'll post up on that Instagram page.
But, um, or on the website, excuse me, go ahead and check out the website and sign up for my list. Right. And, and just to close things here, I wanna thank you for your service, Mr. Gcio, for going out there on the front lines like that. And, you know, uh, I have the absolute respect for you and everyone that you've lost and, you know, served along with.
So this is, this is what I'll close with, man. You know what, like, like the fear that we face at war is, is something that a lot of men use to, you know, want to be tested in, right? And, and, um, so this, uh, it's one thing to be courageous in the face of like bullets, right? When your physical safety is, is in danger and you've been trained.
You know, 90% of people are gonna do what they need to do. You know, their 10% are not okay. Right. Having faced that kind of courage, the re the, the way that I knew that all this was hard, right? To get to where I'm at now wasn't, you know, it was hard work. It's, and it's ongoing and it's taken me years of deep inventory and perspective change in everything, you know, to get to this point.
And one, like the fear that I felt during the invasion was one thing that I was able to overcome. Right. And, you know, like, and I performed well under fire now. When I got out of the military, I failed miserably 'cause I didn't know what the fuck was happening. And I collapsed into a pile of, of bones and, and goo.
Right. And, and the tools that I learned in the la you know, like putting myself back together and the fear that I faced looking at my own self is, was harder to overcome than, than a tank shooting at me in Iraq. Like the hard stuff is internal and that fight is ongoing. And like it, and like I know you don't wanna do the work, right?
You're tired, but you have a choice. And if you wanna learn how to get out, I can teach you 'cause I've been there. And physical fear is easy to overcome. If you're, if you're trying to face your internal stuff, then you're a warrior, right? Then you're on my team, I'll teach you how to get through that. 'cause that's where the real war is.
So I appreciate it, man. Again, thanks for listening, right? Of course. Yep. So ladies and gentlemen, be sure to check that out. And as always, thank y'all for your time.
