Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple of Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey, and today I am here with Mr. Michael W. Allison. So Mr. Allison, without further ado to us, a little bit about yourself, please.
No doubt, Mr. Whiskey. Thank you, sir, for having me on here. Pretty clever name.
I kind of like it. Um, but no doubt, man. Uh, Michael Allison, US Marine Corps veteran, served for eight years. Served in combat Purple Heart recipient. But with that, through all that, those things though, man, I, uh, always. Tell folks, I'm a man of God. I'm a father, I'm a husband, and then following that, I'm a business owner and someone out here that's just inspired people through my story make an impact either through my coaching business or consulting business and just trying to help people get better and better every single day, man.
Right. I love that. I love how many veterans I've had on my show who their mission when they got out. Ended up becoming helping other veterans who got out. I, I really love that. And as well as, you know, the junior sailors and soldiers and everyone going in now, how many years did you do in the service?
Yeah, I did, uh, eight years in the Marines, uh, from nine nine to 2007.
Right. And, uh, as I saw in your B you're a Purple Heart veteran. A purple heart receiver, and you know, is that why you didn't stay in? Or if you didn't stay in, what kind of were the factors that influenced your decision to either stay, stay in, or get out?
I'm a Purple Heart recipient. Um, I got blown up by, uh, A-V-B-I-D on our last mission while I was in Iraq. But you know that having a purple heart is not what, uh, is distinctive in regards to why I got out, there's several other factors. So after I left, uh, California, I was in, I, uh, had opportunity to do marine security guard unit.
And when I got to MSGI, uh, was dealing with a couple personal matters and things like that, and I had a son on the way. It came a pivotal moment where I was either to stay in, I'm not sure if you're familiar with like marine security, guard duty, but you gotta be single. And I had a son on the way. So it was either making a decision of staying, trying to go somewhere else, do something else, or taking care of my son and being a dad and being a parent.
And I chose the option of, uh, not re-enlisting at that moment. You know, I thought for me at that particular moment was to take care of my son was the most, much more important thing for me. Um, I left California after, uh, when going to Fallujah in Iraq, you know, to, because of something to, that's tied to your question though, because when I was there, man, I, uh, I put my best friend in the body bag, bro.
And, um, that didn't sit too well with me. Just seeing that and experiencing that and, you know. Some people do a war different, you know, um, for me, in that particular situation, I just saw my life flashed in front of me, which was fine, but actually, I'm not saying it's fine, but it's, you know what I mean? But to actually.
See someone that you just spoke to, see someone that you were watching bootleg DVDs with, or you guys were hanging out with, um, having lunch and stuff like that. And just to see them in peace, smoke, blood of death, man is just, it just sticks with you and haunts you, man.
Right. And when I had in our episode, Vietnam Combat on this show had Mr.
Robin Bartlett, a Vietnam veteran and author. Come on the show. And he spoke about in his book as well in the show, how, you know, he had buried a lot of people, a lot of people on his team. He was the leader and you know, there was responsibility on him for that. But it wasn't until he got hit and was dying himself that, you know, like you said, his life flashed before his eyes and he felt.
This absolute purposelessness. He felt like he had not done anything in his life. He kind of really questioned what they were fighting for. With your experience, when that happened to you in Iraq, did you feel your view towards the mission change at all? Your view about your life and what you wanted to do, how did that really affect you?
And what do you say it was a turning point in your life and it really shaped you for the better or for the worse?
Wow. That's a great question, bro. So when I was over there, I went with all the intentions of all the things that we went there for, but actually being in war, you realize much more that you really fighting for your brothers, your, and protecting your brothers.
And those types of things you're fighting to keep our country safe and all those things, but being in it and experiencing war and for this particular war that I was in and being tied to these, um, Iraqi, um, groups that we're working with or were supposed to be like, you know, like the translators and their soldiers and things like that, and just understanding the magnitude of what war is, you could see that what we're there for compared to how they look at war is.
They don't care if they die, right? They don't care about their brothers next to them. They don't care 'cause they feel like they're dying and it is what it is. You know that. So they'll walk around with bombs tied to their chest. They'll put bombs on their kids, they'll put bombs on their wives. Their outlook on war and mindset is a little bit different and a little bit tricky to fight someone that already has death in their eyes and ready to go.
You know, so looking at it from that aspect was a little bit different. So to see that and then knowing that the person next to me could go in a second, knowing the person that I see today, may not be here tomorrow, was super, super, super impactful, man. So understanding like the bigger picture and the bigger motives behind war.
Um, was very, very, uh, eye-opening and kind of gave you a different outlook and different aspects to life because my mindset shifted a little bit when I got out of the service when it came to like, uh, purpose. Because you are, you're riding on such a high level when you're in war, when you're adrenaline is at such a high.
Then when I got outta the service, there was nothing that could ever equate to that magnitude of what that felt like. So everything else was kind of like a let down. It couldn't be a job, it couldn't be money, it couldn't be anything. You know, some, some of those things are just temporarily, so you, you'll get, you'll feel, God, you'll feel good here to die down.
So nothing could actually equate to that.
Right. And that's actually something I struggled with while in the service, which was I was a nuclear operator. Onboard a United States aircraft carrier. I felt no purpose. I felt because I was not on the front lines, that I was not contributing. And obviously, you know, that's not the truth.
Obviously we need nuclear operators to be able to run our ships and we need our ships in order to move our troops and do what we gotta do, but different sitting on a ship or stand on ship, you know, doing watch compared to being out there. And, and for me, I always felt that need, that gung ho. Wants to go out there and, um, I actually really regretted not joining the Army or the Marines, but every, you know, soldier I've ever expressed that to, every marine I've ever expressed that to has said that if I had actually gone out there, I'd had the, the complete opposite mindset.
So I understand that loss of, of, of purpose, and we've talked about that a lot on the show where when veterans transition, they lose their identity. Especially if they were a leader, they suddenly go to being, you know, no power, no rank, no responsibility. And so you decided to, you know, kind of work with business and other veterans and empower people.
So what inspired you to start doing what you're doing now when you got out and, you know, looking back from then to now, how, how has it grown and changed and gotten better for you?
Yeah, most definitely. What inspired me to do what I do now today is, is finding that purpose within what I do. So. I realized when I got out of the service, there was not a blueprint or anything of that magnitude to help me when I transitioned.
So what I was missing was a mentor. I was missing a coach, I was missing someone that could consult me and guide me during my transition. And what did that look like? So when I got out of the service. I struggled with even like, getting my benefits, right? So I didn't even know what to do or what are the processes and some of the, some of the things you gotta do in regards to like get your percentage for your benefits and what you need to tell the doctor and all these other things that, that's tied into that, which is a whole nother topic, a whole nother crazy world, right?
So when it came for employment. I, uh, at that particular moment, you know, PTSD was the new buzzword, obviously, back in the days it was like shell shock, but it was, if you had mental health issues, you could not talk about that in the workplace or even tell a company that. So I didn't talk about mental health or anything.
I just went on about life and just try to get a job because I didn't have a college degree or anything. I just came outta the military. I was, uh, 27 years, 27, 28 years old, and I needed a job. I had a, I had a son that was about to be born in another three months, and I have a wife that was not working, so I just needed to get a job.
So I took a job on a railroad and finances was not there, you know, so my transition, I struggled, man, and I, uh, I didn't really know what to do and downs when it comes to like employment. Um. Going to get my education, understanding the things with the difference with being an employee opposed to running a business.
And I struggled for the past, uh, when I got out, I wanna say for a solid, somewhere, somewhere in between seven to 10 years and just like navigating and figure that out. And I said if I had the opportunity to help people, help veterans or give back. And take everything that I'll learn and implement that within my company and teach people, then that's what I was gonna do.
So through my company, the Adversity Academy, we offer personal development program where we're gonna teach you about some leadership, some neurolinguistic programming, some cognitive thinking, some things around personal growth, some self-awareness, some clarity, those types of things through a 12 week process to help bring you to a level of transformation within your life.
And then we also have a, uh, a business development program. So if you're someone that. Wants to get into entrepreneurship, start a nonprofit, then we're gonna teach you how to do that. In addition to that, if you're in a career and you're, you want to create like a side hustle or a, an employee that accelerate, then um, that program is for you too as well at the moment.
Um. I do some advising and consulting. So I help businesses, um, with different aspects of life. So I ran a, uh, construction company down here in, in South Florida. We made the Inc 5,000. I ran a men's grooming service company where we traveled across America and do, um, grooming services for upscale clients, for like weddings, events, those types of things.
And then, um, I had opportunity to work for the government where I was doing it, project management and, and contracting in Washington, DC I did that. Then I was a train master in Atlanta, Georgia, where I managed all of the train performance, train connections, uh, all of the logistics when it comes to operating on the railroad.
So I took all that experience and I put it all inside of this company. And from there, man, um, in addition to that, I would say that I took some of that experience and I put it all in the book. So I wrote a book on that could help people navigate some of these things when they transition. And I use that same thing too from my platform whenever I speak on stage and like tell my story.
And what I did to help change my life. And hopefully somebody that's within that audience could take some of that information and, uh, change their lives too as well.
Right. And ladies and gentlemen, in the description below the podcast, you'll find several links including Mr. Allison's LinkedIn. You can reach him there.
But yeah, so obviously you've done a lot now with your life. I mean, you just gave us the whole list, but stepping back a little bit. If we're gonna go to the past, and I have to ask, why did you join the military? You know, did you get the branch you intended, or did life take a different turn and from, you know, basic training and bootcamp and all of that.
Where did your life go? And then how did you end up in Iraq? And if you could discuss the events there.
Sure. So my story to join the military is not like your traditional veteran or guy that served. So I have no family members that served in the military. So when it came to like the knowledge. Of what someone was telling me, what it was like, I had no clue.
And having like a strong affinity, I didn't have that prior to, uh, my story was, uh, I was a high school football player. I played offensive line, defensive line, uh, some linebacker in some special teams. I was pretty good. Um, so I had an opportunity to go to University of Wisconsin. My 11th grade tore my ACL 12th grade, had the same thing happen again, and the opportunity for a scholarship was, uh, taken away when it comes to like finances.
I didn't come from, um, family that had money or knew how to. Help me at a, at a as learn how to like navigate how to go to college and using grants and things like that or whatever. So I didn't really know any of those things and I thought that I was gonna be one of those kids that play football, go to the NFL.
But that was my dream, did not come true that way. Anyhow, I, uh, was, uh, in high school, saw a recruiter and um, he pulled me to the side. And he started talking to me about the Marine Corps of the benefits, uh, GI Bill and what it would be like to serve. I immediately was attracted to what the Marine Corps was about.
When it comes to like the honor, the courage, commitment, being disciplined, I love the seriousness about the Marine Corps and above all, when in comparison to the other, uh, branches, I just. I don't know, my eye just locked in with, uh, the Marine Corps either, I don't know if it was the colors, I don't know if it was a toughness, whatever, but it, it was just the Marine Corps.
So I never even spoke to an Army person, an Air Force person, a Coast Guard person. I just knew that the Marine Corps was gonna be it. Anyhow, I, uh, I joined at 17. And went through the swearing in getting, getting in shape and all that stuff. So playing football, I was about 2 50, 2 60. And getting to bootcamp, I got down to about over a year.
I got down to like about 2 0 5, um, six, two. And then, uh, once I, uh, went off to bootcamp, man, and somebody started yelling at you and all this other nonsense, bro, I, uh, I was like, what the hell did I sign up for?
You know, so, um, yeah, that, that, that sucked for the initial period, man. I was like, I can't believe what the hell I just signed up for. With that being said, man, I, um, you know, I had to dig deep. I, uh, I've been through some other things in my life before I even joined the military, and I've always had that can-do attitude of like, I'm gonna figure it out.
And when I got to one of my lowest moments there, I had wrote a letter back then there was no cell phones or calling your parents and all that stuff. So, and I told her if I, if I, uh. Could do anything in life. I'm gonna get through this, I'm gonna make it, and I wanna see you guys there at graduation to see me graduate.
And that was the promise that I made within that letter. And I see that through, I graduated bootcamp, became a squad leader. I. And did really well. Graduating bootcamp, I came back home, I, um, for a little bit see that my friends was not doing anything, so kind of made me feel like I did the right thing and made the right decision, even though I didn't go off to college.
Um, I guess it kind of make it like a manchild sort of, kind of, but kind of like grew really, really fast. I graduated bootcamp the day before Thanksgiving, 1999. So right after that I came home Thanksgiving and then I got shipped off to, uh, marine combat Training. When I got sent to marine combat training, it was at uh.
In North Carolina, but my unit that I was gonna train did not pick up until January. I never knew that. So I got there and I just sat for like a week or so, and it sucked. So I, I was kind of saying I wish I could have stayed home and did some recruiting. Anyhow, uh, we went, went into Christmas and then everyone thought it was like Y 2K.
We thought the world was gonna end. Obviously nothing happened and training was getting ready to start, but they delayed it. So what happened was I got picked up by, uh. Another like unit that they keep there, which is called funeral detail. And it taught me so much and gave me so much respect for, for the guys that served before me because like I said, I didn't have that knowledge before I.
So I was a part of funeral detail, so I used to help carry the casket. I helped used to do the 21 gun salute. I used to have to carry it, fold up the flag. I used to have to take that over to whoever the grieving spouse, mom or whoever it may be. So I learned a lot more about the service, learned a lot more about the veterans that was being buried, and just much more appreciation when it came to that aspects of serving in the military.
So I did that and then after I, I did that for like about a month or so. It was time for me to do marine combat training. Marine combat training was in negative five degrees and it was raining. Now I told you that I'm from Miami and I'm from Jamaica, bro. So I ain't never seen snow in my life. With that being said, man, uh, I went out to marine combat training, froze my butt off, and the last part of the, uh, hike back, it was a 10 mile hike.
I passed out and found myself in the emergency room in the hospital, and it was hypothermia and uh, frostbite. From that, I, obviously, I came back and finished the training. And from the training I, I went to my first Marine Corps duty station was, it was Camp Lejeune. From Camp Lejeune. I went to Japan. From Japan, I went to, uh, California.
When I got to California, I, uh, was stationed with third track, third, uh, third tracks. And as soon as I got there, well, let me, let me go back a little bit. When I was in Camp Lejeune nine 11 hit. And once nine 11 hit, I knew that there was a possibility of going to war and knowing that there's a possibility of going to war.
I started my mindset, started changing things, started like preparing myself, knowing that, you know, when I joined the service, you know, I just joined a service to serve, potentially using my job bill, learning some life skills, learning some leadership skills, those types of things, and just probably meeting some cool people and traveling the world.
All of the things that a recruiter sells you. And once nine 11 hit like. Things got real, things got very serious and made you grow up super, super, super fast. Then, so once I got to California, I knew that eventually that I was gonna be a part of the invasion and go into Iraq and, uh, go to war. We started, uh, training at 29 Palms, doing simulations of, uh, war tactics and all that stuff.
And then, uh, we started doing some close combat types of training. We started doing some, uh, kicking in doors, types of training and all that stuff. So, and I was an AM tracker, so I operated tanks and we would carry infantry on the inside, but they were actually training us to get out and do patrols and all those things.
Never knew that any correlation to do with our job because that was not what we got trained to do as an AM tracker. Amtraks operate on land and water. We shoot a 50 cal, a Martin 19, so phosphorus grenades, and we carry infantry on the insides. But, uh, we got started training some, doing some other things, including just, uh, operating, uh, with Humvees and with the gunner, uh, man gunner and all those things.
Just in case. Lo and behold, while I was out there doing the training, captain Vanning came out, told his boys it was time for us to go. And, um, that's what it was. So I told, uh, my family that I was en route to go to Iraq, who was not able to go back home. I was dating a girl at the time, I'm not gonna lie, I thought worst case scenario.
So I broke up with her and ended that relationship. And, uh, we went from Camp Penn to Seattle, from Seattle to Canada, from Canada to Germany, from Germany to Kuwait. And once we got to Kuwait, we took a long march all the way into, uh, Fallujah. The first night we got to Fallujah, we got mortar, everybody yelling at incoming.
And I was like, oh shit, this shit's real. And there's a close, close, close possibility that I might die here. The first sign that you see when you come into Camp Fallujah is, uh, complacency kills. And that resonated with me in regards to how you have to think, how you have to prepare, how you have to operate.
Like if you get caught slipping out here, you could die. And understanding the seriousness of the magnitude of that, my leadership skills kicked in because now I was a sergeant, I was in charge of. These guys that's within my platoon, within my section that I have to make sure they're okay, take care of 'em, and all of these things that's tied to that.
And in Iraq, uh, the first mission that I went on, I got shot out by an RPG and I. You, have you ever seen like a fly or be, or something like fly across your face and you kind of like natted or something like that outta your face? That was, was, was providing support for a unit and me and my gunny. We're setting up a defensive perimeter and we've been there all all day, kti.
And as soon as the sun went down outta nowhere, this RPG, you could hear it when it takes off and it lands behind my tank. And I was like, oh shit, what the fuck is that? Anyhow, my gunny and I got on target, identify where it came from, and it came out of like some raggedy apartment type of building and we like blew that bitch up.
And from there I was like. That was the first time like in combat, seeing the real deal and doing some stuff like that. Adrenaline was on the next level, man. And I had, uh, Lance Corporal Low and Lance Corporal Castelli that was there with me. They were helping me reload and some of them were helping shoot.
And uh, it was nuts. It was nuts, nuts, nuts. From us firing back, multiple people started shooting back at us and luckily we got outta there. Things were fine. Multiple different things happened throughout that, that tour. Um, from patrolling and Humvees and different things in our Amtraks. The last mission that we went on, Mike Gunny, I.
Injured his back while I was out there. So I had the opportunity to take a leadership role and fill in for him. So instead of being the assistant section leader, I now became the section leader leading our guys. While I was there, we just captured some guys that shot at us, tried to kill us, we turned them in.
All those other things that, that kind of came pretty routine. So the last mention that was on, we were in a, uh, 360, uh, perimeter kind of, uh, defense and. Coming back. I got some ammunition, I got some water, and I got some res to deliver to our guys. And as we're dropping 'em off, I'm holding a little small talks or whatnot.
We get to the last Hum V and once we got to the last Hum V on there is the dock. It's the gunner. It is my gunny and my friend Salto. And we give them all of the stuff. We talk for a little bit and we pull off. And as soon as I pull off within seven seconds of that, I heard the loudest explosion that I could ever hear in my life, man, inside of the uh, Amtrak.
My body is like halfway up, halfway inside, if you get what I'm saying, and the blast was so loud and so explosive that shrapnel hit me above the eye, hit the shoulder, knocked me down inside of the turret. Injured my back and injured my hip, and, uh, knocked me out. Once I came to Castelli, um, grabbed me and pulled me and see if I was okay.
And once everything was okay, we, uh, stepped out and to go check on the dock. The driver and Soto and what I saw, man, I could never ever, ever, ever imagine we stepped out and it's a whole as big as a pool. The same Humvee that I just saw was on fire disintegrated. Was smoke and fire and nobody's moving, and we go over there.
My gunny, he's a little bit moving, but he is covered up in dark as hell. I see the dock. His leg is blown off the gunner, half of his face is gone and my friend Soto was dead. And this is when I told you like, I, I could not believe what I just saw. And, uh, no one started shooting at us or anything like that.
It was just super, super quiet. And Captain Venting started giving out instructions of what to do. We put these guys in. Um, we helped obviously rendered first aid and we put Soto in the body bag and they got medevaced out of there. And then we had to leave leaving out of this section or this area. We had to close up all of our hatches and shoot our way at this bitch.
We was getting shot at it from left to right, like it was something that was in a movie, and we shot our way outta here. We got out, we got back, and within two weeks we're back in the United States. And after we were back in the United States, know that that was, uh, super, super, uh, eye awakening experience that, um, took place for me math.
Now how long would you say, if at all, were you. Afraid to go near vehicles or enter a motor vehicle. I mean, did you have PTSD to that extent where, I mean, you were afraid that if you got in and you know, drove off that it was gonna explode?
Absolutely. Man, hypervigilance kicked into to the 1000th degree.
Man, it, it was crazy. It was crazy. Absolutely.
How long did it take you to recover from that and you know, what really helped you? Was it just time or did you get some kind of mentoring, or how did that all work?
I wouldn't say that I'm completely recovered. I would say when I got out of the, when I was in the service, I, uh, I, I, I did a very good job of learning how to bottle or compartmentalize my emotions.
And when I got out I did that. So when I got outta the service, like I told you, I never really told anybody that I really served. I didn't tell anybody. I didn't collect any medical benefits. You know, I just went on about life. And I didn't know that was hurting my, hurting me when I was doing that. And it was when I was working on the railroad and I got called for a, uh, the engineer that's on the train, he reported it to the dispatcher.
I'm the train master. So I get called that night, Hey, um, somebody just jumped in front of the train and I show up and, uh, when I show up, you know, I see, um, a body. Cut in half and I immediately smell what a dead body smells like. And it immediately brought me back to Iraq. And I didn't say anything about it.
I didn't do anything about it. I just went about my day, went about my, uh, life. I, I reported it on the, on the news 'cause news showed up. Um, then I did all my reports. The next morning I had to report it to, um, my, uh, supervisors and I just went on about my day, two weeks later at another location in Georgia.
I. The same thing occurred. After that, things just started happening in my head and in my house. So any little noise trigger, any little yelling, trigger the grass started cutting. It triggered something, someone knocked on my door, it triggered something and I was like, fuck, I can't live like this. So any, anyhow, I uh, just said I'm gonna go, go to get some help.
My wife, um, my girlfriend at the time, she's my wife now, she was like, you keep jumping in your sleep. You keep on talking in your sleep, you keep on fighting in your sleep. And so at, at that point, that's when I actually decided. I needed to talk to somebody. I needed to get some help. So it was not until a solid, maybe like seven years from I got out of the military.
So I got out in 2007. I went to Iraq in 2004, so I didn't get help until probably like 2012, 2013.
Right. And that's part of the reason why you made what you call breaking the bottle.
That's right. That's exactly it. I, I realized that I bottle in. Some childhood trauma that compartmentalize and acting to my experience in Iraq.
And I never talked about it. I never shared it with anybody, never told my wife anything, never talked to my kids about it. I was gonna be justifying in life just like that.
Right? And you're not the only one. A lot of veterans, you know, bottom up their emotions. And luckily the VA has expanded a lot where they've created a lot of opportunities, events, and programs for veterans to reach out and get help.
Something, the vice president of the Marine Sniper Rifle Association was on my podcast in Marines and sailors episode one. And you know, he tasked me, you know, it was his mission. He's trying to find out the root cause of there's an epidemic of suicides in veterans and active duty, uh, more than any other job or career.
And, you know, it's all across the board. I mean, as far as enlisted. Versus officer, you know, race, gender, all of that. I mean, it's just an epidemic. I mean, when I was going through my program, we had, you know, one to three a month, the ship I was on had 13 in about a year and a half, three in a single week.
And so he kind of asked me, you know, through this podcast as well to, you know, kind of find out the, uh, the cause for it. A big part of that is the negative health stigma, which is something they're working on, but it's still something both in the civilian world in a service that is kind of frowned upon.
But I think the VA and a lot of the newer generation of veterans, uh, even the older generations as well, are getting better at talking to one another. Uh, being able to get treatment without, you know, a lashback and. And it's something really great that I hope we can continue to improve on. But just bringing it back to you, how a lot of veterans just bottle it up.
They self-medicate and they think they'll be fine. I mean, I know some of the veterans I've talked to from Vietnam, I mean, they bottled it up for. A couple decades, and it wasn't until they were in their fifties, sixties, going on 70 that they started, you know, feeling the effect of suddenly all of it breaking loose at once.
I mean years and years of suppressed emotions of, of people they lost, of what they saw, what they had to do, and they kind of just threw it in a box in the back of their mind and. You know, it started seeping out over time. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, that's all the time we have for today. Unfortunately, I know it's a shorter episode.
Typically we like to run a little longer than this, but there's just some things going on in both of our lives, so me and Mr. Allison are gonna call it a day for two day, however, expect to see us together again in the future. So I wanna make an announcement. I know that the last few episodes have been more life advice than comedy.
Again, I try to balance this show, but lately, you know, we've been talking about some serious topics and I just wanna take a moment and say thank you to all of our active duty, to all of our veterans, and to all of those helping take care of this community. If you are feeling suicidal or depressed, just know that we are here for you, that you can reach out to any of us, and that the VA, as well as a lot of other services out there are here to help you understand you and get you the help that you need.
And just remember, a lot of us don't know that we need help. So if you've been in the service, if you're currently in the service, or you're transitioning out or left the service even a while ago, just be sure to check on yourself and, uh, make sure that you know you're doing all right and maybe. You know, you need some help that you didn't know you needed, so be sure to always be checking on yourself as well as each other.
We're our own support system as well. So ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Expect more episodes soon featuring both life advice and comedy. You know, I definitely wanna brighten things up with the holidays coming up, but be mindful that with the holidays coming up, you know, there's always a rise in depressive thoughts, suicidal ideations, and all that stuff.
So please be checking on one another. Thank you.
