Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple O' Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey, and today we are here with Ms. Natalie, founder of Lift Oneself podcast, and she goes by NatNat, and she is here to lead us in a meditation before we begin, and then we are going to discuss some awesome advice for y'all to help with your mental health and other aspects of life.
So, Ms. NatNat, would you please lead us in that? Thank you so much for the gracious introduction. And before we started recording, we were really connecting and having a great conversation. So I'm looking forward to this playful in depth conversation that we're going to get into. And like you said, before we start that, I would be honored to guide us into a meditation so we can ground ourselves and meet Each other in our breath and for the listeners, a lot of you listen to a podcast while driving.
So safety first people as I asked Mr whiskey and myself to close our eyes, keep your eyes open yet. The other prompts you're able to follow through with whatever you're doing so that you can benefit in that grounding exercise for yourself. So, Mr whiskey, I'll ask you to get comfortable in your seating.
And when you're ready, you're going to gently close your eyes and you're going to begin breathing in and out through your nose and you're going to bring your awareness to watching your breath go in and out through your nose. You're not going to try and control your breath. You're just going to be aware of the rhythm and allowing yourself to be guided in your body.
There may be some sensations or feelings coming up. It's okay. Let them come up. You're safe to feel. You're safe to let go. Surrender the need to control. Release the need to resist and just be. Be with your breath. Drop deeper into your body.
By now there may be some thoughts or to do lists or a little language going on in your mind and it's okay. Gently bring your awareness back to your breath. Creating the space between your awareness and the thoughts. and going deeper into your body,
being with that breath. By now you may have noticed the rhythm of your breathing has changed. Again, don't control your breath, just be aware. Those thoughts may have popped up again and it's okay. Bring the awareness back to your breath, beginning again, creating a space between the awareness and the thoughts, and going deeper into your body.
Now, while still staying with your breath, At your own time and at your own pace, you're going to gently open your eyes while staying with your breath.
How did you experience that? That was amazing. You know, I'll, I'll get into it personally because I think what I'm going to say is relatable to a lot of people, which is I am a person who has a very hard time relaxing on my own. I am an overthinker. I am, and you said things to address it directly. As soon as we started, I was controlling my breathing and then you were like, don't control it.
Just let it be, but be aware of it. And initially it was very difficult for me to be aware of it without controlling it. You know, it was like, once I was aware of it, now I got to regulate it. But through your coaching, I was able to let it go and then started thinking about stuff. And you were like, no, no, put it away.
And I was like, okay. And then it started right when it started, Come back to the surface. You said it may have popped up again, put it back away. I was like, she reading my mind right now, you know, but I think it's very common in people, especially people who don't do it often, you know, it's actually always been an issue for me.
When I used to run varsity cross country, the coach would always, you know, say, Mr. Whiskey, you're so tense. I run, like I'm ready to fist fight someone. You know, but for me, my running is my stress relief. And so I do have a lot of negative and angry thoughts going through my head. And every few feet, I'll remember I got to relax, got to loosen up, you know, and in cars, three of the movie, they actually were training one of the racers, you know, like, imagine your clouds, your clouds, you know, and.
Because it does hinder your speed, it locks up your core and mobility. And I think that goes into meditation work as well. Just in general, relaxing. I think a lot of people now more than ever, we have so many. stressors. I feel like people nowadays are playing a lot more roles in life than they were previously just because of the, the way, you know, the cell phone technology and social media has revolutionized the world.
And luckily, as you guided me through that, thanks to the help of this background I have, I did imagine I was in a sunny field and it was just butterflies, very gentle. And I, I pictured them also because You know, I don't know, it was just very relaxing, you know, they're just going through life, doing their thing, they're not thinking about taxes, you know, or anything like that.
But NatNat, for, I mentioned butterflies were kind of incorporated into your show, and you know, kind of your lifestyle, what brought that into your branding, the idea of the butterfly? Well, the butterfly has a very empowering story. It's about transformation and unfortunately, everybody wants to be a butterfly yet.
They don't understand the journey of the cocoon and, you know, they don't want to be the Caterpillar yet. You have to incorporate it. All you know, the cocoon is where the Caterpillar has to eat itself. And the journey of that caterpillar eating itself, I'm sure in the moment, it's like, there's nothing good that's going to come out of this.
Yet you have to trust in the process of what is being developed that you don't even see what's possible. You don't even know the transformation. Yet also with the butterfly and the transformation, everybody's like glorious and loves to see the butterfly. Yet the butterfly has a very limited lifespan and it also no longer can eat food through its mouth.
It has to only suck on nectar. So it really shows that, okay, you want this grandiose yet understand that there's going to be changes in your lifestyle, changes in the way that you really And I, I gave that image because people love to see the butterfly, so it invites them in yet. Then I present the whole cycle and we go through this cycle continuously through life.
Yeah, people would just arrive at the butterfly and there's no more. And it's like. Unfortunately, life is impermanent and you're going to have these experiences that are going to bring you through this transformation. And when you're in that cocoon and you know, it's dense and it's painful and it's dark, it's to remind yourself I've been through this cycle.
And that's why communities needed also to remind you that even though it feels this dense, there's capacity within you, there's growth within you. You know, what you're saying is so spot on because in a previous episode with TN Wong, we were talking about gym and fitness and how so many people to use the same symbology, we're all caterpillars.
People want to go to the gym and leave the next day or a few weeks later as a butterfly, where the process of the gym is really a cocoon process. We talked about the importance of patients and all of that. And it's not just for the gym. It's anywhere in life. For example, I'll talk about the podcasting industry since we're both podcasters.
Out of 4 million podcasts, only about, you know, 300, are active. We've lost 55, 000 podcast. Well, we have, we've lost our shows, not them, you know, since, since June, you know, Alex put out that there's about 55, 000, 13 percent decrease in the podcast. And he said, there's about 593 independent podcasters that leave every day.
You know? So I bring that up because a lot of people. Because of the pod fade is the term for that. People think, all right, I'm going to start a podcast. I had, in fact, I had a guest on my show. Great guy. He admitted that he started a podcast because he needed money and he realized that you don't just start making thousands or millions the next day.
You know, he goes, I really needed money. So I started a podcast thinking that, yeah, there are podcasters out there making some of them are social media influencers, same thing, you know, with all this content creation, I've seen social media influencers who are making. 30, 40, 100, 000 a month. But, and sometimes you know what?
It is a miracle. You, you are, you know, your cocoon is a shorter time period just because right place, right time, you know, part of making your cocoon is having the ideal environment. You know, I think sometimes people want to try to force the change when they're not ready yet. You know, a caterpillar needs to mature a certain amount, but I think a lot of us want to rush that cycle.
And I think the most important part that you spoke about, which I don't think a lot of people focus on, a lot of people are like, you know, caterpillar, cocoon, butterfly, a lot of people don't look at, now that you're a butterfly, there are pros and cons, and I think that's very realistic to the actual world, like for example, you celebrities, even though there are more out there, example, You got the, the, the beauty of the butterfly and the fame.
But like you said, you can't eat food anymore as a celebrity. You might not be able to go out to restaurants without people coming up to you. You talked about, you, you summarized it as a lifestyle change. And I think that's so important for people to recognize that. And I, I think it's one of those things that a lot of people hear it and they're like, yeah, yeah, I know.
And it's not until they achieve their dreams that they realize that things are different than what we perceive. So now, now I know you help people through all the stages, but let's focus on specifically the cocoon is the roughest part for people. So we'll start there. I know you specialize in helping people turn anxiety into power and helping with that, right?
That inner healing, that inner discovery. So can you kind of tell us about, with your personal journey first, the cocoon phase that you went through to bring you to the butterfly you are today to now help mentor all the caterpillars out there? Yeah. I almost died 10 years ago. It's going to be on going on 11 cause I was in the hospital.
I was hospitalized in March, but I started getting sick in December. I was Told that I had lesions in my brainstem and in my cerebellum and I was hospitalized for almost 40 days given about 6 months to live and in those almost 40 days, I went through a battery of tests because they were trying to find what was the cause.
What was the diagnosis? And unfortunately, and fortunately, they couldn't find a diagnosis. Therefore, I had to be released from the hospital. And if you don't have a diagnosis, you don't have a plan. So I was put into the wilderness of like, what is this? And really having a different. Relationship with death, having a different relationship with life and really having to go within because externally, those that I look to for help, we're not able to give me the help needed.
Right. So. Thankfully, a year after that, and I was a solo parent to three boys at the time, and when I was in the hospital, I have twin boys that were four, and my oldest was 18, so being released my body had, like, you know, completely shut down and so having to get back the energy just to be able to parent three boys.
Twin boys that were very hyperactive. They were traumatized by, you know, the environment also of what the experience was of seeing their mother. The meditation allowed me to go more profoundly in and really understand the nervous system more in depth and understand the trauma and how I interpreted the experiences and how I developed an identity and coping mechanisms.
To be able to survive in those environments. And so by doing the meditation and doing those somatic releases in my body, it allowed me to release those defense mechanisms of that nervous system and be in my vulnerability. Be honest to myself, not who I'm trying to pretend to be to the world and to feel a sense of belonging with other people.
And while still parenting these young twins that. Allowed me to really see for myself the highest spiritual practice I could have was the parenting because they reflected back a mirror to see myself and a lot of parents may not want to admit to that yet if allow themselves to there is such that's where the changes.
Not always blaming the child that there's something wrong with them, actually taking accountability of what am I seeing? What am I reflecting? What is being reflected back to me that, you know, when our Children are going through stages, we relive our childhood through them. So thankfully I had the two that really allowed me to go profoundly and better understand, you know, being trauma informed, understanding that nervous system.
And things came back online within my body and the way that my body was functioning and everything else. So then that's when I, you know, I meditated on it and that's when I came up with the word lift oneself. How I named the company, and it was basically lifting the ego and how I define the ego is the defense mechanisms of the nervous system that are guarding you from your vulnerability.
So, once you release those defense mechanisms, and you can be in your vulnerability, you're in the one space. self. You're in that energy, that frequency, that higher power that connects all of us. A lot of people might hear energy and they're like, that sounds a little woo woo. Yet we're our nervous system is frequency.
Like your sensory is, is, is an energy and you're feeling these things. We're feeling bodies that think our mind gives us meaning. Yet if our mind didn't have meaning, you wouldn't be so activated in your system. It's just that this, this Once you start putting meaning in this, then it's going to always serve that.
And some of your work is to release that meaning, release those belief systems that have been programmed into you. And it's, you know, it's warrior work that I call it. When you're activated and you're in fight or flight, fawn or freeze, this nervous system is taken and hijacked over your behavior and your physical structure to come into kindness and find relaxation and joy.
It's where you were to do that because you just want to be on the defense and you're rigid and it doesn't feel safe to release that like this is protecting me all this time. What do you mean, like, all the armament? I can't go to battle with an armament and it's like, yeah, you're you're at war with yourself.
So once you really understand what's going on, and if you may allow me, you mentioned at the beginning that at times when you're running, there's a negative voice that comes up for sure. Well, that you're activated in your nervous system. Our nervous system is based in a negative bias. So that inner critic that comes up and it's berating you and going, that's your sign that your nervous system is dysregulated and you don't feel safe in your body.
So being able to question that of what are you actually feeling? We don't know how to identify our emotions. We don't even know how to identify just to say I'm afraid or I feel helpless. And once we can do that, then the body's like, Oh, you're, you're recognizing me. Like you're listening to me now. And then you can meet it and then see what actions you can take.
What we usually do is just go on the autopilot of the habit of this is how I'm going to deal with this. And change is being able to face that and go through it and integrate it and rewire your nervous system to be able to relate with yourself in a different way. Yet the biology, it doesn't feel good when you're constricted and your heart's palpitating and your mind is swirling and you feel like everything's unsafe.
It's because you don't feel safe in your body and something has triggered you and activated you. Well, you know what you're talking about and going back to the being honest to yourself and not who you want to be or who the world wants to be. I think that's an important discussion now more than ever.
There is this huge call, almost a war of genuineness and authenticity versus, you know, what is trending, what a society wants. And I, you know, I'm sure it's always been that way. Right. But with the expansion of social media, it's allowed people to live more than one life at a time. With their online persona in their real life, or, you know, both merge, you know, there's a lot of complications going on.
There's a lot of people who are not being who they really are because it pays, you know, and that's something that's gone on for a long time, but social media has opened up so many more opportunities for that. And so a lot of people aren't being honest with themselves. And then you talk about being defensive, feeling safe.
And I think we live in such a negative world now in such a I want to say like a hostile world. And I don't mean physically, but you. You know, I, I recently did a sermon on my other podcast about social media and how most comment sections on certain platforms, it's just negativity, it's just sexual perversion, it's just hate, it's not, I, I went into the difference between, you know, constructive criticism is good, right?
What I'm just seeing is just hate and arrogance and perversion, and it depends on the platform. What's interesting is. You know, I'm not really big on social media at all, but I look at all my friends who are on social media and I will look through the comment sections of the same kind of posts on different platforms.
And you'll have one community that's super supportive, it's nothing but love, and then you'll have one that's just hate and perversion and negativity, you'll have one where people don't comment at all. And These platforms are attracting those same people and what you have is you're creating cultures of Negativity and there's just even if not on social media people today are just so judgmental people are not Even if you look at not even just politics, but any debate or disagreements people are are not respectful people are very hateful very excessive.
And so I think a lot of people don't feel safe in their bodies because they live in a hostile world. The reason people can never relax is between the social media at home and then people out in the world. Everywhere they go, they feel like there's someone after them. And I think it's hard for people to let go of that.
Like you're saying, let the defenses down and say, I'm safe. You know, these people can't actually hurt me. You know, I think it goes into what you pay attention to and what you value as that should affect you, you know, should these comments online actually affect you or should what other trends are happening or what other people doing affect you so not now what's your opinion on all of that?
Well, to put it bluntly, social media is fear porn. It activates the nervous system. And when the nervous system's activated, you can go into a spiral and it's very difficult to come out of that negative bias. And when it's just being fed, just propels and propels. And it just goes in, there becomes this addiction and no more and more neuroscientists are letting us know how it's impacting our dopamine receptors.
And so when those are deleted, Then you're just going to social media to get that refuel, but you're not realizing it's not, you're not taking the power of choice of what you're going to consume. People are just openly consuming. They are. We all are. It is part of our addiction. So to tell people they should be this and that, it's very easy to say.
It's okay. Can you be honest about the addiction? Can you be honest of what you're consuming and what parts of your personality it brings out? Because, yeah, everybody can be a totally different person online. But then when you're face to face with somebody, there's a different type of filtering and connection that you have to be.
And so it's really having to empower people of, how do you want to show up in the world? Like, this persona, if you don't want to care, then recognize that that's going to start to develop in your personal life. And I think we have to take more responsibility and I thank you for, you know, creating these discussions on the platform of really highlighting, like, where are we going in this direction?
And it's, it's snowballed into a place that, yeah, there's hostility all the time because there's a bunch of dysregulated nervous systems and nobody's taking accountability for themselves. It's much easier to blame and critique and judge other people. Like we judge ourselves 24 seven. So until you face the judgment within yourself, you don't even realize you're judging other people.
You just are think it's, it's the natural and that's how it has to be not recognizing that there's a different way that we can interact in this. But social media is a highly addictive. Platform now where people can kind of, you know, numb and run away from their own personal problems or personal goals and actions that they can, you know, really use time as a tool, not a toy.
Well, and I feel like that's what TV is to serve as in video games. But when you were running away from your problems in your life, and I'm not saying it's negative to have a fun hobby to escape to, the issue is. The difference between television watching it and what it offered to social media is social media, you're interacting with other people, you know, whereas television, if you were just escaping from who you were, it was, you were taking out on fictional characters or relating to fictional characters.
And now it's, it's different. And you talk about the addictiveness of it. And I was going to make a comment that now it's starting younger and younger. It's true. We see toddlers with iPads and iPhones. I'm very against that. I know there's good ways to go about it, but one of the things is it's so addictive, even I think people of all ages, you know, there's plenty of people who weren't born into a world of social media and phones who are on there all the time, you know, whether it's Facebook or Instagram or what it is, you know, it's just, You talked about people don't recognize or they don't want to acknowledge and it starts with acknowledgement.
I'm going to tie that back into the, yes, social media is designed and the companies work to feed you negativity or the same stuff. But once you acknowledge that addiction or that issue, I talk about regulating your feed, you know, ultimately, yes, there are programs and algorithms, but if you start to.
Filter through and only like and attract good content, content that is educational, uplifting, whatever it may be, you can do that. And it's, it's kind of like an actual addiction in a sense that as you're doing that, there's going to be temptations. There's going to be, they're still going to send you some posts from what you used to like and you have to ignore it, you know, because if you go back to liking it, You know, it's going to be a floodgate, you know, there's going to be people in your life who it's just like, if you're trying to be sober and dry and the people around you are drinking, that's what it's going to be like, because you're going to be with friends who are trying to send you certain types of content, or they're looking at that content, you know, so it really is an addiction in all those senses, as much of recovery as it is in the actual consumption of it.
Yeah, and recovery, you know, there's a part where you have to cocoon yourself to really understand what the addiction was doing to you. And once you have an understanding of why you cannot do these things, then you can put yourself back into situations where alcohol is around. Yet, you also have made a commitment to yourself that you understand.
Why it does this, and when it pulls at you, then you either have to go into solitude for a little bit more to strengthen that muscle of commitment towards yourself, because a lot of people think that if I just remove everything, all the stuff will be okay. But yet, once it comes back in your perimeter, everything spirals out because you really didn't do that inner work to understand why am I addicted?
What, why is it soothing the pain? Understanding what is the pain that it's soothing? And I think that's the conversation that's lacking. People just want to remove things and take things out. And sure, you can do that. Yeah. When it comes back into your parameter, because you cannot control life in the environment to a certain extent, then it's like, Oh, why am I spiraling out?
Why are all the tools that I created or the, the, the house. Where's that foundation? And it's like, well, you didn't really go to the pain and that pain portal that is activated, that it needs to be soothed. Did you meet that part? Did you give it language? Did you have better understanding? No, that's, that's very true.
Even just like I've done a lot of episodes on alcoholism and drug addiction and dealt hands on with family members and it's. Addressing that root cause of okay, why are you drinking? And then they'll have answers and then you gotta go further than that and sometimes further than that because it's buried Like you're saying the root cause if you just cut social media out of your life But you don't understand why it was playing such an important role.
And for example, you mentioned dopamine and that's a great discussion because you know, for, I feel like everyone knows what a meme is nowadays. So it's the comedic visual format that describes, I don't even know how to describe it, but y'all know what I'm talking about, that's, that's what most people rely on for dopamine.
And it's like, think about it. Just think about it. People were happy for years before social media was ever invented. So. How, how is it that you can't be happy without social media? You know, they, they were invested in other hobbies, other things that brought them joy, and you've just invested all of your joy in one platform, which is a very diverse platform given, but you know, a lot of people, there are plenty of people who don't have lives outside of social media and that's the issue with.
The phones draw us in to this little private world that leads to a public world, but we really need, I know a lot of parents and professionals talk about how children aren't playing outside and you know, they're not growing up exploring the neighborhood or what I have you, you know, it does play a fundamental difference in how we invest our time and our joy into hobbies and such.
It does you know, nature teaches us a lot of things and, you know, something for the listeners if you are addicted to social media and you're on, you know, the YouTubes and just doom scrolling, and I do that at times I have to really catch myself. It's like, oh, what are you avoiding? What is the emotions?
What's going on? And sometimes you just need to kind of do that disassociation because it's just overwhelming. And you just, you know, it's all about honesty. This isn't about it all or nothing. Perfect. It's, it's giving yourself grace to be honest and go through the process of being able to be better towards yourself.
And so understanding that when you're in these social medias and you're going on, recognize when you're outside and you're in an open vast field. Those limiting beliefs diminish because your brain has seen something open and vast. So there is a release in a regulation. That's why they tell you to go forest bathing or go outside in an open field because it physiologically changes the way that the perception of your mind because our eyeballs are our brain outside of our skull.
And a lot of people don't realize that are so it's censoring, you know, what is outside. So when you see that open vast space, those limiting beliefs start to diminish and you're able to see an expansion this and then you're able to feel different physiologically in your body. But when you're in that social media, it's activating your nervous system.
Like, all the, like, even some of the information that we're intaking around the world and the wars and the violence, it sends a sense of helplessness because there's no action we can actually take, yet it's ramping us up to want to take action. So what do we dump or we project onto other people to get this kind of feeling off of us, rather than acknowledging it and taking a moment that, like, this really hurts and it sucks.
And okay, now, how can I? Put a feedback loop that's positive, not in a negative way, not just repeat the cycle of what I'm seeing. Because that's what people don't realize. They're repeating what they're seeing. We're humans. So we are just what we see where we replicating it. It just looks a little different.
So people feel, Oh, I'm not doing the same thing. And it's like in the intention of it. Yeah, you are. And people don't want to acknowledge that people, especially those that think that they're righteous. They think, Oh no, I'm doing all good. And it's like, no, you're not. There's no way any human can do all good.
We're going to do some harm, some mistakes. It may not be intentionally. You don't understand internally what's going on and what's activating things. And you also don't understand how it may be perceived by somebody else. You may not perceive it that way. It doesn't mean that somebody else doesn't and it doesn't mean that it's not impacting them.
Yeah. And so totally not relevant to what we're talking about, but you said something that reminded me of something that blew my mind. So you said that the. The eyes are like the brains on our outside, which is true. That's how we get all our information. If you look at something and you imagine yourself licking it, you already know what it feels like with your tongue, even if you've never licked it.
So I've, I read that somewhere online and I was like, Let me try this out. And I'm looking around the room. I was like, I already know, but I've never licked it, but I know like, it could be a wall. It could be a, you know, like whatever it is around your house. And I just thought it was so amazing that whatever you've touched pretty much is stored in your brain.
So that if you think about it, so just completely irrelevant. But I just thought it was, that's what you remind me of. This is part of our whole thing and that's what social media understands also that if if we get into your Psychological and we get into that nervous system in your emotions and into your sensories.
We have you hooked Yeah, we have you hooked. That's why you know people create vision boards That's why people create a whole life plan because if you program your mind to do a certain thing It will go and activate it. What do we use? Activated with limiting beliefs, because that's what's been programmed into us.
It takes a lot of effort and work to program what's possible for yourself. Yeah. And we talked about on a previous episode, the reasons you can't sleep, the real reasons you can't sleep. One of the things we talked about is bedrock, which is a lot of people. Are waking up and this is why I always pray when I wake up saying I pray for it Thank you that I woke up, you know There's like I said on a previous episode there are people right now as we're recording who did not wake up today You know, it's and sad my heart goes out to their families But there are people who are going to go to bed tonight and not wake up So I always wake up and i'm i'm glad for the day And I start with gratitude and appreciation for life because I want to start positive with energy There's so many people who are starting negative, you know, they're waking up And they're dreading the outside world, they're dreading work, or a family function with the in laws, relatable, but, you know, whatever they're dreading, sometimes just like you said, you said something very important, which was people are getting stressed and pent up over events across the globe, or, or somewhere else in They have no power over and truly it doesn't impact them.
It's just something negative. And that's one of the, and then they're not getting a release because humans were problem solvers where we want to take action. If we see something going on, we want to intervene. I think that's very human, whether, you know, we want to do something. And if we can't, like you said, it just gets stored up and then we're taking it out on other people.
I mean, for, for example, I'm sure we all have someone we could name right now who just Watch this news, watch this news. And then they're just yelling at people. They're short tempered and they're so angry over the news that they, they just can't change anything. But yeah, so there's a lot of people who are waking up and they're programming themselves.
Like you said, they're, they get this negative mindset. They're dreading the day. So the body thinks the world is dangerous. What it's going to do is say, well, let's just stay in bed. This is our nest. This is comfort. This is safe. And that's why some people, they keep hitting the alarm and going back to sleep.
Some people just. End up staying in bed and they're like, well, just work in my bed. I'll just go on my phone in my bed. I'll just have my meals in my bed. And they, they form a pattern and a habit. And it's hard to break out of that. And even you said that you and I, and I also end up doing scrolling sometimes, but I'm at the point where I have a voice that says, you know, Mr.
Whiskey, you're, what are you doing? You know? And then sometimes I'm like, okay, just wanted, and this is the big thing that everyone has. Just one or two more, just one or two more, or we'll be done after this. And then we see something and it hooks us and then it reels us in. So, you know, we're not preaching to you as, as perfect people who, you know, Nat, Nat and I aren't like, we don't use social media.
We're super self control like we still use social media, but we're aware of our faults and doing our best to address that. And so hopefully you're taking this not as a personal attack, as a negative attack. You know, if it is you, you know, you're, you're, you're part of the system, and you just need to get out of that.
And most of y'all don't even realize it, especially the, the younger ones who are being brought up into this, you know, where social media is something starting from such a young age where they're, you know, And like I said at a young age they're investing their their happiness in online, you know reels and posts that are funny instead of Genuine friendship and connections jokes about in person with other people You made a very good point and also on the gratitude.
I know some people are like yeah Yeah gratitude and I am one of those people too. I think we also have to allow The negative bias to be written down. So what I give as an exercise to some people is doing the worry dump. So allow yourself to, you know, program a certain time of day that you will give five or 10 minutes to write down everything that you're worried about or angry or whatever, and you give it all your attention in that part.
And then throughout the day, whenever that comes, you write it down, but then you tell your body, this isn't the time. But it also starts to learn, but you will give it time. You won't just put kind of like that toxic positivity where a lot of people are just be positive, be positive. And it's like, if that was so simple, the world would be a better place.
Being able to blend that humanness and meet people where they are and show them where they can go and find the tools to develop because, you know, gratitude is a great empowerment. Yes, a lot of people are not accessing the gratitude muscle, yet it's also, okay, well, my worry muscle is too much. Once we start writing things down and it's out of our head, we get to start to see, like, why am I doing that to myself?
Like, this doesn't make any sense. You relate with it differently. And you're witnessing yourself, but if things are just stuck in your head, a narration goes on all kinds of other stories, and then something builds and builds. When it's something written, you relate to it a bit differently. So it's finding different modalities that will work with the person, because just cutting off social media for some people, it's like, I cannot do cold turkey.
I can. I've done that in my life with because, and only reason why I had to do that is because I had death on my door. So I had no other kind of choice I did, but in my mind it was no other choice for other people. It's like, I got to do little by little. And how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
So find the things that can shift you 1%, 1%, 1%. And before you know it, like 10 percent has passed by 20 percent has passed. But like you said, social media makes it feel like a snap of a finger. Everybody's a new person. And I think that has done a lot of damage on people because then they self criticize themselves and judge.
And they feel defeated. So the motivation isn't ignited in them. Yeah. And I think you talked about writing it down and I'll just say for some people out there, like for me, I have to write it down in the form of poetry. That's how I process it better for some of y'all. It might be artwork, you know, I think there's a lot of mediums you can express, but at the end of the day, getting it out of here.
And into the physical world through some form. So I highly encourage y'all. And I do like that. Nat, Nat, the, I think, like you said, a lot of people focus on the positive part and that's difficult for people to do. I think it's actually a lot easier for people to be like, where are all the things I hate, you know, I'm worried about.
But if you're using that in the right direction, it can be very beneficial. And so as we come to a close here, I'd like for you to discuss what you're doing now and to help empower other people and talk a little bit about the services you offer. Well, right now I'm writing my book and I'm putting discipline on myself to really explain my journey and simplify the language of the nervous system so that people can actually, you know, relate to themselves and use practical tools.
Like we did the meditation, right? Oh, I just spoke about the worry, having conversations like we are, like, how can I make a shift, even though it's a little bit of a 1%. Yeah, when we do it in the real life, because what I'm seeing more and more is a lot of people are, you know, they're Let's in taking a lot of information, yet they're not doing the practical in their real life.
Like, I know a theory, I know about all this, so they're consuming, yet they're not creating, they're not doing in the real life, they're not applying the things. So that's what this book will apply it in a very simple way that they can use it in their day to day and, you know, be validated that like, it's uncomfortable to do this stuff.
There's a lot of impurities that I call as the alchemy, yet you can transform them into gold. And then when you have the gold, you can also share it with other people. And that's what that alchemy process is of really knowing what that changes for yourself internally. People can find me on my website, lift oneself.
com. So that's L I F T O N E S E L F dot C O M. They can book a 15 minute discovery call to see if my one on one coaching services, it's energy healing. If that. We'll work for them. And then also I have a podcast that's called lift oneself where I have conversations with people around the world. The main thing that I have as an intention for the podcast is to remove the stigma around mental health and to create a community because healing needs community.
We're not to do this all over again. on our own. You know, as humans, we shown that we were able to evolve because we had community because humans helped each other. And then you can find me on social media also lift oneself. I made the commitment once I had the lesions that I had come off social media for about a year.
And then when I came back on, I made the intention that I was going to put positive content, content to have people self reflect. In a world that, you know, satire and jokes. Yeah, they get, you know, the viral yet. If I impact one person, it ripples to a million. So that is where my intention and it may be slow moving yet.
I know it's quality. Amen to that. And so I want to thank you so much for coming on the show again, ladies and gentlemen, in a description below, you'll find all of those links. You'll find the podcast, the website, and now I just want to thank you for what you do for everyone and for coming on the show, it's been a great time having you here, and I hope we really helped some people out.
Thank you so much for having me, Mr. Whiskey, and thank you for what you're creating in the podcast platform. It's truly appreciated. And please remember to be kind to yourself. Thank you.
