Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple O' Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey, and I'm still recording the weekend of the move.
So I just moved into my new apartment. I've been unboxing stuff all day, have temporary wifi. That being said, my nose is still. Kind of stuff. So I apologize if my voice isn't as charming as usual, and I'm gonna try my best not to sneeze into the microphone or anything, but moving, whether you're a clean person or not, you're gonna find dust in some of those spots that you just can't get rid of.
But about further ado, I'm here today with Marcus Hart. He is a distinguished military veteran, and what he really does now in life is help people recover from PTSD after he has battled with his own experiences of PTSD after fighting in Iraq. For a couple years now, he's become an expert at it though. As we always say on the show, you know, we're always growing, always learning, always recovering.
There's always things we can improve on, and there's always other people we can help. So, without further ado, I'm gonna pass the mic to him so he can go ahead and introduce himself. So, Mr. Hart, would you please go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself? You know, Mr. Whiskey, I would like for you to just, uh, hold the Holy Water.
Just a seconding. Um, they called me a veteran Turner, a resilience warrior, or just a guy who just loves exploring, likes possibilities. 'cause I, I just about did it all, you know, from, uh, surviving Wreck trenches, uh, and rolling around the waste dirt to like hosting a, a show called The Transform Me Live Show.
Uh, also DJ'ed a bit and PTSD. You know, I get it. It is, um, not an unwelcome guess. But instead of craving, you know, or caving in, I, I started to write like nine books. Um, coach to people, couple people. And I got a Coach Haven called the Transform Your Network. I made a documentary or two. Um, and I believe TRA trauma can be your fuel, not your anger.
And you nukes that struggle with anxiety, anger, flashbacks, um, don't worry about it 'cause uh, me too, you know, um, having to be that been there. That's why I like to share my scars and show them. How you can turn 'em into badges of honor. I started to ditch that PTSD baggage and build resilience like a brick wall.
And, and heck yeah, if you're struggling, you should be ready to like figure out how you can reclaim your life. And that's why me and my tribe. Even through the darkest of nights, we looked at the dawn when it breaks through and we figure out like how you can toast to like conquering, conquering your inner demons right now.
Marcus, just to get a little more about you out here for the audience. So we already mentioned you fought in Iraq, you were in the army. So can you tell us, I guess they call it your MOS, in the Navy we call it a rate, but what exactly your job was. How that played a role in what you experienced out there.
Tell us a little bit, you know, whatever you can tell us about, you know, what your mission was out there and what you were doing when, uh, everything happened that caused you PTSD. Well, I was the guy that everybody liked to, to visit and sometimes the guy that people would cuss at, uh, I was the supply guy, nine two Alpha, um, right.
I got a chance to, um. Dispatch trucks, uh, but more, more, more often than not, my primary job was to, was to order supplies. All of the class nine supplies, um, the, the big bucks, you know, so I handled all the big bucks and I was responsible for, uh, receiving all of those. Uh. Those parts and those important supplies that, that our troops needed.
And, uh, also making sure that, um, when we were running convoys, that all of those important supplies were, um, you know, protected, guarded, and got to where they needed. And, uh, and, and when we got there, uh, I made sure that all of our stuff was, you know, put, put, put in, put to where they supposed to be, uh, put to and.
When, you know, when I was on the five, you know, uh, for an operating base for some of our civilian friends out there, I would be the guy that you'll come see. The, the first person you'll see when you come back, the last person you see when you leave, uh, to, to, to get a truck, uh, dispatch to you or a vehicle.
And, um, and thing about that, uh, Mr. Whiskey was that. Um, and we, you, we get series later, you know? Um, yeah. We, we will touch on that later. So it it, it is a thing about that though, that like, you know, that, that, that always like touches my memory about like being the, the first person you see when you, when you getting ready to leave and the the last person you see when you get ready, you know?
Right. The last person you see when you leave and the first person when you see, when you come back. So besides the gate guard. Yeah. So you were a, you were a happy sight to see if, if they made it back, you know, they were happy to see your face 'cause that meant they made it back safe and sound. Exactly.
Exactly. Yeah. So, mm-hmm. I understand why you said, uh, the person that everyone likes to visit or the person, someone cusses out. 'cause we talked about this on the show before. In the Navy, when you're joining, the recruiter really hypes up, we call them Ls in the Navy. Yeah. Uh, like logistics, supplies or whatever.
And the supply guys. Gal. Right. And they're considered, you know, your greatest ally, especially when you're on a ship underway and supplies get low. Mm-hmm. They're like, Hey, you, you know, you do them favors, they'll do you favors. They'll bring a whole creative monster if you, you know, do this maintenance for them or whatever.
And they always hyped it up. But, you know, me and my buddies encountered a lot of lss who. We're not so kind to pay back the favors. But I had other LSS who were super nice, we helped them out and it was our job to help them out too. Right? And he was like, Hey guys, what do you need? You need new boots, you need a hair comb, you need, you know, a new jacket or whatever it could have been.
And so, yeah. So essentially, Mr. Hart, what exactly. Were you supplying, just to go into a little more detail, I know you said dispatching trucks out and everything. Did you also do all their personal gear, uh, including like weapons, ammunition, vests and all that? I only did, uh, weapons and, uh, gear, like in the first part of like my, my career.
Um, but when we went overseas, I, I handled most of the motor pool, uh. Parts and, and supplies and, you know, some of the, the, the more classified, uh, highly classified supplies. Right, right. Uh, some of the, you know, some of the stuff that, like, that was really expensive. So you, you wouldn't, you know, like, you know, so like, so some of the, the more, the more common stuff you, you wouldn't really see me for, but if you had a truck that broke down or if it was, um.
Say if it was, uh, something with your, uh, armor, um, you know, that you wouldn't get over in personal gear, uh, from the regular supply guy, you, you would come get it from me. Right. And people don't realize, Mr. Hart, how dangerous it can be. I mean, I know. It's kind of related to your job. I know you weren't a truck driver or anything Exactly, but a lot of the vehicles that were transporting troops and supplies in the Middle East, you know, from just from other people who have been on the show.
What I've heard is, you know, car bombs, there was a lot of that. We had Michael Allison, you know, he suffered from that. Got the purple heart, he was right there when it went off. And I recorded as well with Sean Douglas and he was talking to me about IEDs. All that. So let's say you were, wait, you ever, like, did you have situations or could there having a potential for a situation where they were bringing supplies on the trucks and, you know, it could have just, someone could have put a bomb under there or in there, it could have just gone off and you would've been toast.
Is that kind of how it was? Oh yeah, yeah. There, yeah. There was a situation where, uh, once they figured out. That there was a, a truck, you know, uh, or even the contractor, one of the contractors, uh, truck, uh, bring in bringing in some of those precious, uh, supplies, uh, bringing, bringing it back over to the five, uh, yeah, they, they definitely targeted that truck.
You know, I, you know, rather they got the intel from, uh, someone who, who flipped. Um, then yeah, that, that would definitely happen. Uh, and I, I came, you know, came very close. Um, and I, and I saw that, you know, and it was, it was something is, it was very like, it was very kind of bizarre because y you would expect it from like, something like just, uh, from a cedar push, you know, you know, because like, I, I never really went very deep into the Iraq, you know, I, I, you know, I only did like little city pushes, um, which is like, not, not that really far from like where we was originally stationed from.
I was, we was stationed over in, um, cap. Uh, which is like at the very border of, uh, Kuwait in, in Iraq. And, um, and we, we had pushed, uh, we did convoys, uh, in, into, um, cedar and, you know, and then we'd transfer from there. And then, you know, then the guys, uh, take, take whatever we had and you go the rest of the way.
And, and we, we had an IED attack, um, from, from some, some intel. Uh, you know, and so I. Yeah, got very close to that. My life took, yeah. So that was the next question I want to ask. I feel like you kind of just addressed, but just to verify, were you ever attacked or received any damage from anything that occurred during your time?
Or is it PTSD more from what you saw and experienced both from your chain of command as well as what was going on over there in the Middle East? My PTSD is more of a, a, a com combination of, uh, what I saw, um, small arms fire, uh, chain of command abuse. And, and um, and, and also there, there was, uh, an attack, uh, a very, a very, very freakish attack actually.
Uh, where, where there was a. When it was a, um, it was a, one of those wild attacks actually, where, where it, it could have turned into an ambush, you know, but, but like, you wouldn't expect it to happen, uh, in Kuwait, you know, uh, we, we were actually coming from, we. It is, it's, it's very, you know, you, you, it's very silly because like, here I am with a, um, with a, with, with a private right.
And, you know, I'm a corporal and you know, like normally they wouldn't send, you know, send like someone out without a, you know, a, a more, more, um, higher enlisted, you know, higher NCO, uh, level, um, uh, enlisted personnel. With a, with a private, and, but they, they, they trusted me. They trusted me to like, you know, like, lead this guy and, you know, I let him drive and, you know, I don't know, you know, which way he turned, but, you know, somehow, some way, you know, we, we find ourselves being chased, uh, by, by some guys in, in some, in some BMWs.
Uh, and, and it, you know, we really felt like we were, you know, very close to being ambush. You know, we, we had to call it in and, and, um, you know, we, you know, we, we, we don't, we, we was on to chase, um, back to Navistar for a while and, and, and as we got back close to the fob, uh, we started getting, um, small RS fire.
They, they shot at the, um, at the vehicle and. You know, they, you know, and like we, we made it in safely. So like, I mean, like, again, I don't know what way this guy turned off. I, I know, I know. I, I made the worst mistake by dozing off, um, as we were coming back from Camp Buren, uh, which, you know, is allegedly the same zone.
Um, but you know, when you on the battlefield there, there is no safe zone. So. So, but again, I, I don't, I don't know how, how he turned, made a, a wrong turn and we in somewhere else and, and, and we make, we ended up making that long haul on the chase. Right. And forgot to ask, but how many years did you serve total?
Uh, six and a half. Okay. And you spend almost that whole time out there in the Middle East? 18 months, um, oh six through oh seven with, you know, of course the three months, um, was down, down for train demo. Right, right. Now, can you just tell us a little more about the kind of symptoms or the effects that your PTSD was having on you, as well as when, when did you notice it, if at all, or?
Was it like, did you notice it or did other people notice it? Because that's something important too, if you were keeping it all locked up or not. There was other people that began to notice it. You know, there, it didn't really come to my attention when, when I came back home, you know, everyone immediately like, uh, knew that I was different and the, uh, even like the, um, uh, personnel, um, as we were like, um.
Processing out. Um, everyone, you know, everyone just, you know, told me like that, that look in your eyes, it, it doesn't look right. And I, I, I remember, I remember sitting, sitting at home, um, one day and I was just, I was just completely, uh, like completely zoned out. And, um, and like. My, my sister, she came in, she said, you know, what's wrong with you?
She said, like, you, you, you need, you should, you should go see someone. You need to go talk to someone. Like, you need to go, you need to go get, go to the church or something. And, and I just snapped out on her. I just snapped out on her and I, I started like throwing stuff around the house and, um, it, it freaked me out and I, I, I just broke down and started crying and I.
And then from there, um, what it, it, it became even more apparent because like, I, I had this, this need to want to always just keep myself armed. So I had, I, I purchased a, uh, a three 80, uh, firearm and, you know, something that I could keep concealed. And, um, everywhere I went, just kept it with me like the, uh, because it is like, KRAS was just freaking me out.
Um, and I would get questioned, like, you know, why, why do you have, have that gun with you? You know? And, um, I got pulled over. I was, I was driving, driving crazy speeds, got pulled over and the, uh, police, uh, drew arms on me, uh, arrested me for, uh, driving, uh, while carrying. And, um, and then. That, that's when things started spiraling downward from there.
And, you know, the, the judge, you know, ordered me to, to go get help. Right. So that was quite a few years ago, as you mentioned to me before we started recording. So how long did treatment really take for you? And you know, were you resistant to it or did you succumb to it right away or, and are you still kind of resisting it?
Well, I was very, very resistant to training. Oh, excuse me. Uh, treatment. No, that sounds about right to you. So I was very, it was, it felt like treatment, training. It was like training all over, over again. Uh, you know, so, because like, essentially like treatment is like training, training yourself all over again, if you think about it, uh, I, I, I remember, uh, myself, I.
Going, going to the va, uh, for the, for the very first time. And, and when I went to the VA for the very first time, it wasn't for, um, uh, it wasn't even for mental health. It, it was, it was actually for, uh, for being very ill. And I, I was, I actually went, I was actually there for a, a temperature that I had. I had spiked a temperature for a hundred, 108.
I had 108.9 degree temperature. Wow. And the, and you know, I was experiencing panic attacks and I, I didn't even know I was experiencing panic attacks, you know, so, you know, so I, they was trying to get me under control and, you know, I had these migraines and, and, um, chills. And, and so they, they did a spinal tap on me and they, they had to sedate me.
Um. They, they, they did, they ran all these different tests, tests on me and they couldn't figure anything out. And in the middle of the night, I, I woke up, started hallucinating. At least I thought I was hallucinating. And, um, I pulled the, the IV out my arm and I found myself butt naked in the bathroom. Um, saying all kind of biblical scriptures.
You know, I was just rallying off different biblical scriptures. Like, like I was in there preaching or something. Oh, almost like an exorcist. Yeah. Almost as ex as an exorcist. Like, you know, like it was like, I was literally like You were possessed. Yeah, so, so the VA police came in and they came in with the nurses and VA police and you know, I had the door locked.
They had to, you know, uh uh. Uh, get the VA police to unlock the door. And then they, they held me down. I was trying to, um, get myself up and then I soiled myself. Very, very, very embarrassing. And, and then they, they took the, took, then they sedated me and, and, um. And then they recommended they, you know, when all of that was all said and done, and they, I mean, finally got me gun control and then they referred me, uh, to mental health, uh, for mental health.
Um, you know, they, they say, you know, maybe you should, um, see someone, you should, maybe you should start having some counseling. Um, and once, once that started happening, I, you know, I said, you know, I'm not about talk to nobody about my problems. You know, like I don't. And I was, I was resistant for with, for at least about a, for about three years.
And, and during that three year period, I got, got into more, uh, trouble with the law. Um, uh, I experienced countless relationship issues. Uh, I, I had. Had more kids, uh, outta Welock and, um, started having, uh, different addictions. Um, and my biggest addiction was, uh, gambling. I had the biggest gamble and I was, I, you know, I thought I was, I thought I was the best gambler in the world, uh, Mr.
Whiskey. So, like, I, you know, I thought, I was, thought, I thought I had it figured out. Uh, I, I would head down to the casino and. I, I would take, take, uh, $10 and, you know, I, I would win, but then I, then I would go to another table, you know, as I was walking out and, and then lose $1,500 right back in and, and then I would go to the ATM and withdraw everything I had in the bank and including the rent and, um, and then become suicidal.
Um, right. The, the, that's when the suicide, uh, suicide, uh, ideation started happening, uh, right along with that. And I, and I couldn't figure it out. Um, and, um, and, you know, the, the darkness continued, um, after that, because I, I, that last gambling hit, I started. As I was walking out of the, the, uh, the, the casino, I, I went in, I got in the car and I, I couldn't, I couldn't face myself going back home.
I said, you know what? I, I can't go back home, you know, because I'm, I'm gonna be homeless, right? I don't have any money, you know? Uh, I'm a failure. I don't know who I am. I don't know what I'm doing. Um. Every, every, I, I can't trust nobody around me. I don't know what's happening with me. So you, I, I got on the highway, started speeding, and as I was speeding, I was thinking to myself, I hope I'll just crash.
And, and the only thing that stopped me was, uh, a sheriff. So the sheriff, um. Stop me. And he happened to be a former military and he said, you know what? I'm not gonna arrest you. I'm just gonna take you to the va. So he took me to the va, he checked me into like, uh, they, they, he helped me get checked into the, um, inpatient.
And, um, that was the, that, that was the best, that was the time that, you know, I started to, started to embrace on some of the treatment because at that time I was starting to see a little bit of difference in. The treatment approaches. 'cause before it, you know, I don't know, it seemed like they just wanted to gimme pills and, you know, and, um, and at the same time too, it was both the pills and it was both me too resistant.
Um, but this time they, you know, it was a little bit of different approach. Um, the group, the group therapy and uh, hearing other, hearing other vets and hearing some of the other, uh, the older vets also was helpful, you know, hearing their stories and. And some of their mentoring and, and then, um, the chaplain coming in and talk to me, you know, some, some of those things was very helpful.
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So as the life of everyone you've touched now through your services that you provide and all the people that you've helped, so. Branching into that topic. Nowadays, you run a podcast and you have these coaching programs where you help people deal with their stories. Can you tell us a little bit about how you do that?
Obviously, you know, we know why you do it, but if you could explain a little bit more why you do it and how you do it, and if you have any success stories that you'd like to highlight, uh, those are always welcome as well. Yeah, absolutely. Um, the, the, the biggest why was. It was when I, I started noticing that, uh, it, it, it was a, it was a pattern, man.
Um, you know, I, I started, I started having insight into myself. Um, I started, I started like stretching out my life. I said, man, you know, look, look at this cycle, man. It is, it is a constant cycle, uh, that I'm going through. Um, but even, even though it's a cycle, there's, there's a upward trend. I. It is, you know, our lives are like the stock market.
And, and, um, if we, if we have, have support and have someone investing into us, and if we take, take tools to invest into us, uh, along with, along with support, uh, we can continue to have this upward trend rather than a downward trend. And so I, I started saying to myself like, Hey, you know, I, I got seven kids now and.
I wanna leave a high, high legacy so that they can like, um, have a template to follow behind. And, and so that if they, they run into trouble, uh, they can, uh, they can use this template. But, you know, not only just being selfish, but my own family, but there's, there's other people like me because when I go to these groups, I, I, I hear stories about other veterans, uh, and then I.
Then I have, you know, I have my, my own friends that like that reached out to me and they, they wanted to talk to me about their problems. And so I, I, I started helping them and, and, um, and then I started getting, getting my own. I, you know, I, I invested into my own coach outside of like working with, working one-on-one with, with my own, uh, therapist and.
And, and, and, and going to group therapy. I, you know, I invested into a, a life coach and, you know, I seen, I seen like, you know, how that can accelerate, uh, your treatment, you know? Um, and, and then outside of just a life coach, this, the, the power of, of, of spirituality, you know, clinging on to like, um, you know, for me.
For me personally, you know, and, you know, I'm a little biased, but the, the Christian faith, you know, was, was very powerful for me in addition to all of those things. So I, I took a very holistic approach and it was very awe organic for me. And, and so I, and, and all of those things, there's, there's been support, you know, it, I didn't do it all by myself.
Uh, yeah. You know, I can give myself credit, but you know, there's. There's, uh, external support and external tools in each, in each one of those things, uh, that, that I borrow from, uh, to, to help me continue to make that upward trend. And so I wanted to to pass that along and, and give it forward. So I started recording and notating everything into a journal.
And out of that journal I created blogs. I, I created inspirational quotes. Those blogs and quotes, uh, turned into, uh, things, um, that I would inspire on YouTube and, and at the time it used to be Periscope, uh, the old Periscope and Twitter. Uh, and there was someone on Periscope one day, uh, while I was live, you know that.
So that was, back in those days, they. They said to me, um, um, they say, Hey, hey, Marcus, you should, you should create a, a podcast. So this is when podcasts wasn't really, uh, too, too, um, uh, too familiar with everybody. Uh, I said, what the heck is a podcast? Uh, they said, yeah. They said, go, go research it. Go Google it.
So I Google podcasts and, and I said, oh yeah, that, you know, that's like radio and. At the time I was already doing, uh, community radio. Uh, but uh, while I was, uh, DJing and doing community radio, I, you know, I didn't really feel like I was really reaching many people and you know, I, so I decided to, um, start, to start to transform you live show, you know, out.
Just someone, you know, giving me, giving me an idea. Uh, and you know, from just inspiring them, you know, well, with, with the information that I was giving them live, they, they wanted to get that information, uh, archive and, you know, be able to go back and share with, with more people. So I created the Transform Eli Show about eight years ago, and, uh, since then, uh, there's.
About over, uh, 300 and some, some episodes archive. And, um, and then on the YouTube there's, uh, on my personal YouTube channel, there's uh, there's, um, I think about over 500, 500 videos there. Um. Then I have about nine books, uh, that, that are impactful, uh, and share insights and strategies for overcoming adversity.
Um, out of one of those, out of those nine books are, uh, co-opted with, um, Holly, um, uh, I believe it's Holly, uh, hustle, h uh, h uh, Hoffman, Holly Hoffman, who was own survivor. Uh, so, and um, and another good friend of mine. Um, and then, um, and then also created a documentary, um, that kind of, kind of dived into like the human experience and kind of sheds light on, on my, on my story a little bit more, uh, that, that helps kind of inspire people.
And, and then outside of that, like I can continue to do the music too. Right. And ladies and gentlemen, you can find the link to the podcast. Obviously it's available on multiple platforms, but I'll be providing the Apple link for it in the description for the show. So be or to go check that out, as well as the website.
Now, Mr. Har, I went ahead and took a look at their website and it's kind of like. Can you explain it to us? It's like you put in your email and you'll get this kind of newsletter of a holistic approach each week, or how does that work?
Uh, so the, the Warrior Press, uh, newsletter, I. Uh, app, you know, you can, you, you know, once you've, um, so the, the best way to find all my stuff is by going to my link tree, um, link tree.com/marcus artificial, and you'll be able to find everything there. Um, uh, including my, um, my website, my main website, and all of my socials.
Um, and I, I have tons of resources. I. On, especially on the, uh, the Substack, um, which is the, the Warrior Press. Uh, and I, I release things weekly, um, blogs. Uh, the podcast. The podcast is there. Um, when there's new YouTube, YouTube inspirational, um, videos. Uh, I, I, I put 'em, I'll announce 'em there When there's press releases for events and workshops.
Uh, I need some, uh, I release 'em there. So, uh, there's. Different tools and resources to like, uh, help you learn about managing symptoms and, uh, and achieve recovery. Um, I, I also, I'm also working to like, uh, bring on guest guest, um, guest writers to, uh, help people, um, help people that's struggling with trauma too.
Um, so like we all can continue to overcome these different challenges with like emotions, anxiety and reliving trauma.
Yeah, that's awesome. And I also include that link tree in the description below for the show so you can find everything Mr. Hart is on. You know, Mr. Hart, I wanna thank you for your service as well as all the opportunities and resources you're providing to people now to help them overcome what they're going through.
And before we end it here, I just wanted to make sure. If you had anything else you wanted to put out there that you had a chance to do so. So is there anything else you have for the audience?
Yeah, I, I mean, you know, I, I just want to, you know, invite, um, the listeners to, I mean, to definitely continue to like clinging on to Mr. Whiskey. You know, all, all your nukes out there, you know, you, you an incredible person, Mr. Whiskey too, like. To have this platform where, where people can just, just lay it all out, you know?
I, I appreciate, appreciate that. Thank you. Appreciate, man. You're an incredible person, man. Um, thank you. Appreciate that. Uh, and you know, those who have a strong sense of purpose and passion for mental health, adv advocacy, you know, um, and if you got openness about experiences with PTSD and, and if you have a willingness to share your stories, um.
And if you got a commitment to personal growth and self informed improvement, definitely reach out to me. You know, or just reach out to Mr. Whiskey. Yeah. Appreciate that. And person who arranged Mr. Hart and I speak his VT Pharaoh, Mr. Hart's Spa buddy. Uh, Mr. Hart, if you wanna give a little shout out to him and where they can find his social medias or anything like that.
Yeah. Uh, shout out to, um, VT for arranging this. Um, you can find him on Facebook, uh, at, um, modern day Pharaoh. Um, and actually all of his, his social is the same, is Modern Day Pharaoh. Yes, I'd be sure to check that out. 'cause he's also a veteran and an activist for men's mental health and all of that as well as a father.
I just wanna make sure we put that out there. But yeah. Mr. Hart, I wanna thank you for your service as well as for making the time to come on the show and share your story. And I know we only kind of touched the surface of it. So ladies and gentlemen, please be sure to go check out his podcast and all those resources is an abundant of knowledge that will help you recover.
And just a reminder for everyone, you know, because we always say this on the show. All the life coaches who come on, and all the veterans and first responders who have PTSD or have battled with that, or suicidal ideations. I just wanna remind you all that we care about you. You know, you are cared about, you do matter, and you know your life affects so many people around you that you don't even know.
And as EJ Snyder just said on a recent episode, you know, the smallest act or kind word. It can change everything. So just keep that in mind, you know, that it's not weak to want to get help if you're a man. You know, your job is to be able to help other people as a man, and you can't do that if you don't help yourself first.
And I just want everyone to keep that in mind. And Mr. Hart, do you have anything to say in relation to that? Oh, you, you're spot on, man. And, um, he's, he's definitely right. Um, I, I definitely just want to, um, second that emotion. You know, uh, we, we definitely want to continue to. Uh, scan for our triggers and, uh, and you, you, and avoid situations that invoke trauma memories.
You, you don't wanna, um, you, you want to constantly scan for those, you know, so that you know what it is so that you can face it head on.
Yeah. And I want people to understand, you know, avoiding that stuff or slowly addressing it isn't letting your. Past or your trauma control you, it's a smart decision to work your way towards being able to face it. You know, it's like swimming, right? If you're gonna teach your child how to swim and they're a toddler or five years old, you're not just gonna throw them right in the deep end.
Some parents do that, I'm sure they do that, but you know, you're gonna start with the shallow water and slowly work your way towards the deep end. And I think that's the best approach for trauma. And PTSD, you don't wanna just dive right in. To it all, you know? So just keep in mind, you know, it's strong to do that.
It's not weak. You know, life, you life is a journey of growth. You're always growing. You know, you're never gonna be perfect at everything right away. And I think that's just important to keep in mind, especially with mental health, because the last thing you wanna do is overstep your limits and now you're worse than before.
This is a journey of growth and getting better and you know, you don't want to get worse. So just keep that in mind. But again, Mr. Art, thank you for your service for what you did for supplying our troops over there so they could fight the good fight. I wanna thank you for coming on the show. Thank you again.
Thank you, Mr. Whiskey. Appreciate you, brother.
